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Written by Sinclair Davidson
March 13th, 2013 at 8:10 pm
Posted in Freedom of speech,Sink the Fink
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Pretty weak, un-passionate speech.
13 Mar 13 at 8:36 pm
I liked the speech – clear, concise and restated the main themes well – Labors interest in free speech …..at one point there. Was no one fom their side visible in the chamber …
13 Mar 13 at 8:49 pm
Not much point in passion when there’s only one other person in the chamber for the whole speech, and that person is our current Speaker.
Were we paying all of our MPs for their non-attendance? Why even bother? May as well have said “we support the motion” and be done with it. There were some nice “freedom of speech” and “freedom of the press” statements, but the audience was the Speaker. Why bother? Just say “yes” and get on to the next battle.
Soggy but raised good points. Hard not to score against such a pissweak government.
13 Mar 13 at 8:52 pm
…. but the audience was the Speaker. Why bother?
Because we are the audience too, via youtube – a neat illustration of one of the themes of Turnbull’s speech, that there is more media than ever.
13 Mar 13 at 9:10 pm
What the fuck was Albanese doing? Just walking around doing shit all, as usual.
13 Mar 13 at 9:15 pm
The speech Malcolm should have made …..
We are faced today with the greatest threat to press freedoms this country has ever seen. Through two World Wars and several other conflicts, the dismissal of a Government, the Great Depression, 9/11and various other trials and tribulations no government has seen fit to muzzle our press in this way.
This leads us to ask, Madam Cardigan, “what motivates such draconian measures?”
It is not, as stated by Senator Conroy, to raise standards. In a broad sense it is to muzzle any criticism of poorly conceived and poorly executed policies ….. and God knows, that is fertile ground for any journalist.
But it goes further than mere sensitivity over policy, Madam Cardigan, and the underlying motivation for this extraordinary legislation is to institutionalize corruption.
The Prime Minister has shown she is willing to demand the heads of non-compliant journalists on a plate, but has only claimed two victims thus far.
That is far too tedious and retro-active for this PM. She needs wholesale and proactive censorship.
Imagine how much easier it would be to cover up the misdemeanours of her hand-picked Speaker with this sort of legislation at her disposal.
The country would still be asking “Craig who?” in relation to the Member for Dobell if Senator Conroy had access to the press sanctions he so desperately desires.
And, Madam Cardigan, how convenient would it be to suspend any journalist who has the temerity to enquire into the activities of Messrs Obeid and MacDonald ……. or perhaps becomes a little too inquisitive about the Prime Minister herself, delving into the darkest corners of criminal activities of the AWU, and those who facilitated their criminality.
Thank you Madam Cardigan”
13 Mar 13 at 9:16 pm
I see the loathsome leftist journalist Margaret Simons, biographer of an error-laden tome of Malcolm Fraser who collaborated in that historical revisionism.
Simons is currently Director of the Centre for Advanced Journalism at the Graduate School of Humanities and Social Sciences, the University of Melbourne and a contributor to Crikey.
She sees no wrong with Conroy’s plans and thinks News Ltd and the opposition are extreme in their reaction
13 Mar 13 at 9:17 pm
I assume Madge Simons won’t have a problem if Tony wins in September and appoints his own media regulator.
Say …. oh, I don’t know …… Andrew Bolt, maybe?
13 Mar 13 at 9:25 pm
Not much point in passion when there’s only one other person in the chamber…
Oh, I thought he was defending one of our most sacred freedoms.
13 Mar 13 at 9:30 pm
You do realise that all these speeches are transcripted and reported for posterity right? It’s important to make them whether there’s anyone in the chamber or not.
13 Mar 13 at 9:52 pm
Turnbull appeared more concerned about how the news of the legislation was delivered rather than the actual issue of censoring the free press. He did make a good point about rushing through to vote the unseen by cabinet or caucus legislation though. But I agree, it was not impassioned at all. Perhaps he believes the legislation will never pass and maybe that’s why he had such a lax delivery. Or maybe he just doesn’t care.
13 Mar 13 at 9:57 pm
I think it is just Turnbull’s persona. He is not a man who jumps up and down and gets animated when speaking, like Pyne does.
13 Mar 13 at 10:00 pm
His word held no gravitas either.
13 Mar 13 at 10:03 pm
13 Mar 13 at 10:04 pm
He got pretty wound up when he thought he had Ear-wax boy over Utegate.
He had Swan on toast over that but the Goldman Sachs ego wouldn’t settle for the scalp of the second banana.
13 Mar 13 at 10:05 pm
“Madam Speaker, on September 15th we will be erecting gallows in the town squares of every town and city in this country in order to execute leftist filth. I’m pleased to say you will be one of our targets…”
13 Mar 13 at 10:17 pm
Great speech. Go Malcolm.
13 Mar 13 at 10:18 pm
M.Turnbull never seems to cut through.
13 Mar 13 at 10:26 pm
These laws are designed to protect the next generation of Obeids, MacDonalds, Shagger Thomsons and, yes, Gillards.
13 Mar 13 at 10:29 pm
If anyone here has Malcolm’s ear, please send him a Dan Hannan speech and show him how a 60 second, passionate, eloquent speech can inspire and go viral.
In 2013, a good speech can be more resonant than ever but it has got to be SHORT.
13 Mar 13 at 10:53 pm
Dan …, that was what I was getting at @ 9:16 above.
Short, sharp and cut-through.
13 Mar 13 at 10:56 pm
Judging by the public utterances of Kim Williams and the DT editor on 7:30, the days of the Altona Droner spitting venom down the phone and getting a journalists head on a spike are over.
And that is good.
13 Mar 13 at 10:59 pm
Why is a reasoned argument scorned in favour of false ‘passion’? It says something about the hyped up everything that people cannot listen and reason calmly and objectively, but need persuading rather than coming to a conclusion themselvs.
Malcolm was making some telling points about the unnecessary and repressive legislation on which the Minister has not allowed any time for debate.
Old woman of the north
13 Mar 13 at 11:02 pm
Malcom Turnbull is a self-important dickhead. Fucking stupid cunt needs to go join the Labor Party like the leftie he is.
Pathetic, unpassionate speech.
13 Mar 13 at 11:06 pm
Both Kim Williams and then Malcolm Turnbull did a first class job with Snowcone tonight.
Williams in particular made Snowcone look like a the leftist hack he is with his repeated harping about the Tele frontpage today.
Both were exemplary calm in the face of this latest illiberal thuggery from this stinking gobvernment but both left no viewer in doubt that it was an outrage.
13 Mar 13 at 11:10 pm
I must disagree with IT.
Hanging is not as instructional as Burning.
Smells create stronger memories than sights and sounds.
The smell of burning hair stays with you, let alone that of the flesh.
Hanging is mostly quiet and only the bowels releasing as they struggle causes any smell.
13 Mar 13 at 11:23 pm
It’s good you guys are considering these things to this degree.
Remember, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail!!
13 Mar 13 at 11:25 pm
… if Tony wins in September and appoints his own media regulator. Say …. oh, I don’t know …… Andrew Bolt, maybe?
That would be sweet. Bolt need do no more than sit in his office and twiddle his thumbs (while continuing his usual blogging activities, of course), and the Lefties would be crapping their trousers 24/7, in fear of retribution that never came. The ultimate form of torture – from the position of ultimate power, do nothing to your powerless enemies.
13 Mar 13 at 11:40 pm
Turnbull. Lazy. Stupid (think incandescent bulbs, ocean acidification, AGW). Gets his economics from the NYT and his communications policy from a two day visit to NZ on the eve of an NPC address. And this was his defence of a free press? Memo to Tony: Get. Rid. Of. Him.
13 Mar 13 at 11:45 pm
PM says media laws uphold freedom
Altona’s John Adams…
13 Mar 13 at 11:47 pm
Yes, very good. The conversation should go like this:
Prime Minister: “Good morning Mr/Ms XXXXX, I expect you know why I’m calling”
CEO of News Ltd/Fairfax/et al: “Yes I do and you can go fuck yourself”
14 Mar 13 at 12:02 am
As little less passion and a bit more – actually, any – rationality on Catallaxy would be a good thing.
14 Mar 13 at 1:33 am
That would mean people like you fucking off, Mr Bragg.
14 Mar 13 at 3:13 am
Free speech is under attack in Australia and abroad. It is impossible not to see a connection.
Pat Condell’s latest video on the push for a “world wide blasphemy” law is here.
14 Mar 13 at 3:58 am
That of course is coming from a person who wants to tax people that wear expensive suits to interviews as they have, he believes and unfair advantage. True. That’s why he supports an envy tax.
14 Mar 13 at 7:02 am
Quick Billy.. better get Conroy onto it.
14 Mar 13 at 7:54 am
Quite obvious to me that this is part of a multi-pronged plan by the liars party to sabotage the election. Why rush this through? Because they want it in place with the Conroy-appointed controller so that unfavourable media can be stopped or at least slowed during the electoral period. Dunno what the other parts of the plan are but expect more from where this came from.
14 Mar 13 at 8:19 am
His word held no gravitas either
When will the Coalition learn from Rand Paul that you can win great support from the broader community if you are tactically astute about when you are passionate about important concepts?
They should be angry and be making a lot of noise to draw more attention to these disgusting laws.
By doing so they position the ALP, Greens & Country Independents at the enermies of freedom.
14 Mar 13 at 8:21 am
A fusion of germs and enemies. I like it
14 Mar 13 at 8:26 am
No emotion in the push for burning.
It’s all about Gonski type analysis of what is needed for better learning outcomes. Burning us remembered better and linger yhan hanging. And it is feared more. Any calm objective assessment will lean toward burning.
Think too of the emissions and how upset the greens waiting in the tumbral will be about the damage to the climate.
14 Mar 13 at 8:31 am
On 730 last night, Campbell Reid of the Daily Telegruff …..
CAMPBELL REID: There’s a difference between provocation and inaccuracy and unfairness, and if we’re thinking that really what we need in Australian society is a tort of politeness, and a shut-down media where you’re not allowed to be provocative, you’re not allowed to be interesting, you’re not allowed to be…
Tort of Politeness!
Well done that man!
14 Mar 13 at 8:34 am
tort of ure is what this lot needs
14 Mar 13 at 8:39 am
Public discussion in the last day or so have been blurry and lacking specific targets.
Bit of a mystery given that the proposed new laws have as their fulcrum ‘the public interest’ which is a notion they have been unable to define or even explain in conceptual terms. There’s a specific target.
Four days is bullshit. They need to be told to go back, do their homework, allow for a period of public discussion after the proposal is clarified. Who do these arrogant jerks think they are? There’s another target.
Behind all the high falutin moralizing and faux outrage is a proposal which would cede unfettered government control over what we can legally publish and read. That’s also bullshit. They need to be told to f**k off into the distance and when they get there to keep on f**king off. Another target.
14 Mar 13 at 9:06 am
Satirical, but a good journo exposes the folly from 1.04
14 Mar 13 at 9:08 am
A message from the Public Interest Media Advocate William Bragg:
As little less passion and a bit more – actually, any – rationality conformity and compliance on Catallaxy would be a good thing.
14 Mar 13 at 9:29 am
Sinclair, the filter needs cleaning.
*James at 1106pm*
14 Mar 13 at 11:14 am
The old KGB and NKVD used to take Dissenters and critics of the Fascist “Communist” leaders ,to the cellars of Lubyanka and places like that.This should be the end goal of the present Australian Fascist governmenti I wonder if they have cellars in Scamberra?
14 Mar 13 at 5:04 pm
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