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Treating Conroy with the contempt he has earned again

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Written by Sinclair Davidson

March 14th, 2013 at 11:29 am

Posted in 2013 election,Federal Politics,Freedom of speech,Sink the Fink

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Leigh Sales cited this front page as a reason why press freedom needs to be suspended.

It is insulting, though.

I mean, to Stalin.

Seriously, Iosef Vissarionovich was no dummy – whereas Conroy comes across as somebody who has shakily survived a series of mini-strokes.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 11:36 am
Is that from the Telegraph or something made up one of the bloggers/commenters here?

Either way it’s a contemptible character assassination of a fine Minister who is only trying to raise the standards of the appalling News Corp empire.

hammygar

14 Mar 13 at 11:36 am
Hammy – you are a fucking moron.

It isn’t the government’s job to raise the standards in a private company -

Perhaps they could raise the standards in whatever public department YOU work in…

Fuck me this has to stop!

Dianne

14 Mar 13 at 11:41 am
Hammy..if anybody deserves to have the piss taken out of them, it’s the good commissar. The only lever of power he should be let near is his beloved toy Tardis

Steve of Glasshouse

14 Mar 13 at 11:46 am
Either way it’s a contemptible character assassination of a fine Minister who is only trying to raise the standards of the appalling News Corp empire.

Stalin was trying to raise the standard of News Corp? When? Link?

Driftforge

14 Mar 13 at 11:47 am
This apology at the end of another article eviscerating the Minister of Communications, the Contemptible Steve Conroy.

I positively cheered aloud when I read it.

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 11:51 am
If you really want to see them become apoplectic, start describing them as Fabians – Lenin’s useful idiots.

Louis Hissink

14 Mar 13 at 11:55 am
Just when I think the Hamster is getting on top of the art of satire, he goes all Soviet on me again. So disappointing. You’ve done some of your best humour on this blog. You realise what happens to performers in this business who lose their edge? The only honorable course is self-immolation.

Tom

14 Mar 13 at 11:59 am
Gillard government finally reaches its nadir – an object of ridicule. Not sure that Whitlam even plumbed these depths.

H B Bear

14 Mar 13 at 12:01 pm
Louis, Iv’e never found any of them useful for anything except for cannon fodder. i can only live in hope

johninoxley

14 Mar 13 at 12:02 pm
I’m extremely happy that News Corp has decided to go gangbusters on this issue.

Nothing left but to crash or crash through Conroy’s insidious proposals.

Let the ridicule continue!

duncanm

14 Mar 13 at 12:10 pm
The line: “Nonetheless we pay tribute toe Commissar Conroy and stand ready to publish whatever he instructs us to”.

Is the most damaging. It makes it easy for people get what it’s all about.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:11 pm
Why did Hitler not get a mention in despatches?

Rodney

14 Mar 13 at 12:11 pm
I’m extremely happy that News Corp has decided to go gangbusters on this issue.

Nothing left but to crash or crash through Conroy’s insidious proposals.

Let the ridicule continue!

In reality it’s a little paper-tigerish. Turnbull and Abbott have both stated that they’ll repeal and “tear up” the legislation.

I wonder if News Ltd would be so courageous if it was the start term of Gillards government? How’s Glen Milne these days?

But we’ll take what we can get I suppose.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:14 pm
Turnbull even got in on the act…

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull said: “The Telegraph does not have the imagination to make him look as foolish as he makes himself look.”

Mr Turnbull added on Twitter: “The Tele may be outrageous but it isn’t for govt to regulate. Conroy should sue for libel. He cd win enough to buy his own ski lodge.”

Then again captain underpants is an easy target.

rich

14 Mar 13 at 12:14 pm
Debate on the media bills has been adjourned until the next sitting date.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 12:14 pm
Rabz, when is the next sitting date? It’s a few weeks away isn’t it?

What’s the bet that it dies a quiet death in the mean time…

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 12:18 pm
What’s the bet that it dies a quiet death in the mean time…

Well Conroy did make an unusual threat by saying if the bill didn’t pass in the next week he would take it off the table altogether. Then again, who still believes anything a Labor pollie says?

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 12:20 pm
tbh, House of Reps is on again next week.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 12:26 pm
Well Conroy did make an unusual threat by saying if the bill didn’t pass in the next week he would take it off the table altogether. Then again, who still believes anything a Labor pollie says?

The fear is a back-room deal has been long done with Ol’ Lezzo and the Oakshit and despite recent Oakshit announcements he’ll do what’s good for him next week

JamesK

14 Mar 13 at 12:29 pm
S. Conroy seems unpredicatable and moody.

candy

14 Mar 13 at 12:32 pm
Stick it in and twist guys and gals. I don’t want to wear my underpants on my head. All power to the Tele on this obscenity.

Conroy and Roxon are very bad advertisements for even this rotten gangrenous government.

Bruce

14 Mar 13 at 12:33 pm
S. Conroy seems unpredicatable and moody.

It’s all theatre candy.

It’s a done deal and and he just needs to give his little band of criminals, rorters, slanderers, homophobes and pirates time to get their stories straight before ramming it through to the applause of the unaffected ABC empire.

twostix

14 Mar 13 at 12:37 pm
Conroy is no Stalin. He is one of the useful idiots that gets put against the wall when the real strong man shows up. And besides, Stalin would never have worn his specs in public.

Keith

14 Mar 13 at 12:53 pm
Conroy is Gay Stalin.

Infidel Tiger

14 Mar 13 at 1:00 pm
Bwahahhah.

Let Conroy censor this.

Climategate 3. Password out!!!!

Check the usual denier\big oil \baby eating sites.

cynical1

14 Mar 13 at 1:01 pm
.” Conroy seems unpredicatable and moody.”

Well, he did turn 50 back in Jan. Did anyone here send him a card.??
Mob of unfeeling bastards. ( ‘cept Hammy..I bet you didn’t forget )

Steve of Glasshouse

14 Mar 13 at 1:04 pm
I believe the cool folk would used the term ‘pwned’

Correct usage : The Tele has pwned Underpants boy.

brc

14 Mar 13 at 1:08 pm
I bet when Conroy was a kid he was the prick who took his bat and ball home because the rest of the kids wouldn’t play to his rules.

Mother Hubbard's Dog

14 Mar 13 at 1:13 pm
Not sure if this is the same update that Rabz provided before…

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/senate-votes-to-tie-up-stephen-conroys-media-reforms/story-fndo4bst-1226597257892

THE Senate has voted to tie up Stephen Conroy’s media reforms in a committee, possibly for months.
Greens and Coalition MPs voted to extend the deadline for a committee to report from March 20 to June 17, during the long parliamentary winter break before parliament is dissolved for the election.

The vote has blown Mr Conroy’s pledge to have the legislation before parliament by the end of next week.

He pledged if he was unable to have it dealt with by the end of next week with enough support, he would drop a public interest media test and a government appointed enforcer of press standards.

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 1:24 pm
So sorry Hammygar seems to have missed the totalitarian antics of Minister Conroy,telling USA executives he had so much power that if he told them to wear red underpants on their heads they’d have to do it!
Just s a short step to hamstring ing our own media it seems….
One of Labor’s finest sons no doubt about it, who in another pathway to glory would perhaps have become an Eddie understudy!

Jazza

14 Mar 13 at 1:24 pm
cynical1 -password is only with a select few. However I hope Sinc publishes FOIA’s covering email in full in a future post. It is very, very good.

Grant B

14 Mar 13 at 1:28 pm
Craig Thomson won’t support Gillard’s press ban.

Not totalitarian enough:

Having faced saturation media coverage over his alleged role in misuse of Health Services Union funds, Mr Thomson said he and his family were well aware that journalists could do their job “better and more responsibly”.

C.L.

14 Mar 13 at 1:46 pm
Mr Thomson said he and his family were well aware that journalists could do their job “better and more responsibly”.

I imagine Mr Thomson has expert credentials in the area of doing the job better and more responsibly.

Dr Faustus

14 Mar 13 at 1:58 pm
BTW Professor Bunyip has just commented on the FOIA release at Bishop Hill.

Grant B

14 Mar 13 at 1:59 pm
These fabianist usefull idiots shuold be put before a Peoples Tribunal charged with High Treason,carrying Life at hard labour sentences.
Every “law ” the swine “passed” should be Totally Repealed !

Borisgodunov

14 Mar 13 at 2:02 pm
I agree, Boris.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 2:05 pm
Not sure if this is the same update that Rabz provided before…

tbh, I was scanning the lower house live reports, so yours certainly is a different update.

The legislation may now be as dead as a dodo.

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 2:06 pm
Good ol’ Boris!

Rabz

14 Mar 13 at 2:07 pm
Give him a saucer of milk.

Pickles

14 Mar 13 at 2:09 pm
lol that’s just cruel, Pickles.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 2:09 pm
The legislation may now be as dead as a dodo.

One can only hope.

tbh

14 Mar 13 at 2:10 pm
Ripper of a column by Henry ‘the smiling assassin’ Ergas:

ARROGANCE is the curse of those long on power and short on wisdom. Little wonder, then, that Stephen Conroy has announced his media reforms as a take-it-or-leave-it proposition, giving parliament no time to consider, much less amend, legislation it has not yet seen and will not see until the last moment.

Although the independents have so far been circumspect about Conroy’s announcement, its coincidence with the government’s gift to them over coal seam gas exploitation reeks of a backroom deal. As for the Greens, they are incapable of believing that what they would do to others could ever be done to them; little chance, then, of their opposing additional media regulation.

Conroy may therefore have the numbers he needs. Yet, from the few details he has disclosed, his proposals seem unfounded on evidence, poorly designed in practice and deeply at odds with democratic principles.

Obviously, the greatest concerns revolve around the Orwellian Public Interest Media Advocate, who will have a role in overseeing the Press Council’s handling of complaints and will implement a “public interest” test for media acquisitions.

Not much is known about how the advocate’s powers will work; but it is difficult to see how the sweeping powers Conroy outlined could be justified.

There is, to begin with, simply no evidence current press standards are unsatisfactory. The Finkelstein report was fertile in assertions but failed to substantiate its claims, much less make out their materiality; as for the Convergence Review, it scarcely touched on the issue.

Moreover, even were there issues, there is a striking lack of proportionality between those issues and what is proposed. Disingenuously, Conroy claims his approach would remain self-regulatory, as the advocate, though appointed by government, would not be paid by it. But the advocate’s powers would be statutory and the financing would, in practice, amount to a compulsory levy. If there is a sliver of self-regulation left in the scheme, it is heavily disguised.

RTWT

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 2:16 pm
I bet when Conroy was a kid he was the prick who took his bat and ball home because the rest of the kids wouldn’t play to his rules.

I reckon that you are wrong on a few counts MHD,Conroy would never have played any sport (in much the same manner that cockheads like Carr have never had a drivers licence, you know, that’s only for common people) and secondly, there is not a snowballs chance in hell that the little cnut would have had any friends to play with in the first place.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 2:25 pm
That’s it Huck, he’s still pissed that nobody came to his 21st

Dan

14 Mar 13 at 2:28 pm
Not much common sense above. Plenty of hysteria though. Read a sensible comment here.

hammygar

14 Mar 13 at 2:31 pm
Part of News Limited CEO Kim Williams’ speech today:

Which brings us to today, where the most exciting era in human communication collides with a government hell-bent on imposing last century regulation to control the media it doesn’t like.

First, a bit of background.

For several years governments had been watching the traditional media grappling with the digital environment and in May 2011 this Government set up the appropriately named Convergence Review to “conduct a comprehensive examination of Australia’s communications and media regulations.”

Then, five months later with the Greens urging it on, the Government opportunistically seized on the UK phone hacking controversy and arguing that “News Limited had questions to answer”, set up the Finkelstein Inquiry into media standards.

But, as my Fairfax counterpart Greg Hywood asked at a Finkelstein inquiry hearing, what problem was the inquiry trying to solve? He argued “there’s nothing systemic here that needs fundamental institutional change.”

Before that, and without any prompting, News Limited’s independent auditors had conducted an exhaustive examination of six years of editorial expenses and activity which was overseen by two retired Victorian Supreme Court judges and two prominent auditing firms. This full and comprehensive inquiry established that none of the activities that occurred in the UK had happened here.

In our view, then, the Finkelstein Inquiry was a punishment in search of a crime.

Also around this time News Limited, acknowledging that the open upholding of standards and handling of complaints is vital to the media’s credibility, had been working with the Australian Press Council to strengthen its powers, double its funding and ensure that contractual arrangements were in place to guard against the withdrawal of money or membership.

The Australian Press Council is chaired by a member of the public and in every forum it conducts public members outnumber publisher representatives.

It already meets all the key standards for a modern media regulator set out by the Convergence Review.

Still this was not going to be enough for this government. Unfortunately, while the consumer is increasingly king, Government and regulators won’t surrender the crown.

Both the Convergence Review and the Finkelstein Inquiry reported in early 2012 and since then a moveable feast of suggested restrictions and reforms have leaked out from Canberra.

Until yesterday when, at two minutes to midnight, Senator Conroy put a gun to the head of the parliament, our industry and the Australian public and demanded his reform package be passed within a week.

Senator Conroy himself said yesterday that the issues are well known, his proposals have been debated and we all know where everyone stands. Bollocks. This is Soviet style argument.

Not a single senior newspaper executive or industry representative has had a meaningful consultation with the Government. I have never had any engagement on any proposal. And as the CEO of a company which has direct responsibility for employment in its various enterprises amounting to over 14,000 people that seems, let me be restrained, odd.

Senator Conroy’s insulting one-week deadline, allows no scrutiny of the detail of his sanction on publishers, a sanction which could affect billions of dollars of investment and the employment of many thousands of Australians.

Senator Conroy proposed yesterday that a parliamentary committee will investigate whether the rule that currently prevents major Free To Air television networks from reaching more than 75% of a market should be abolished, clearing the way for a metropolitan channel to merge with a regional operator.

So much for his lofty demands for more diversity and the protection of existing diversity.

The same committee would also investigate whether the proposed government regulator with the impossibly pompous Soviet style name of the Public Interest Media Advocate, could impose new rules from where our TV stations source their news and current affairs programs.

This is already being described as the Meet The Press clause.

Recently News Limited agreed to supply the Meet The Press program to the TEN Network; an entirely uncontroversial arrangement given that the ABC and Fairfax regularly collaborate to produce television programs and Fairfax and Channel Nine are currently working together on a concept for a business program.

The Prime Minister reportedly described any provision to stop the Meet the Press arrangement as being akin to telling media companies who they could employ and yet yesterday, Senator Conroy said the arrangement should also be reviewed by the new parliamentary committee.

Aspects of yesterday’s announcement like the broadening of the ABC and SBS charters to reflect their work in digital channels and the permanent allocation of spectrum to community television can pass without comment from me today.

However, the gun to the head aspects whereby the Minister demands the parliament must pass legislation in a week are a direct assault on the whole increasingly reviled notion of freedom of speech. How dare Senator Conroy say he believes passionately in freedom of the press as a cornerstone of democracy. It is impossible to believe any such thing when these proposals are examined in a sober disciplined way.

In addition to his attack on publishers, Senator Conroy is also attacking the democracy of our parliamentary system. The role of our parliament is to scrutinise and debate important legislation to ensure that governments get reforms right.

We all know how damaging poorly informed, ill-considered legislation can be. As with all legislation, the devil is in the detail.

Surely legislation such as this Government’s package deserves more scrutiny than a mere few days?

Surely the Greens and independents who promised, in their own words, to pursue “transparent and accountable government, improved process and integrity of parliament” must demand that Senator Conroy’s ultimatum be rejected?

The parliament needs time to consider in detail changes that affect billions of dollars of investment, thousands of jobs and the future of entire business frameworks. We argue stridently that Senator Conroy’s measures represent bad, backward-looking policy that fails to respond to the challenge of a rapidly changing digital economy.

Government should not be introducing media legislation driven by a motivation to punish or restrict investment or worse, to play favourites. It should be reforming already out-dated regulations to encourage investment and from that innovation, growth, and jobs in Australian journalism.

Sadly the Government’s media sanctions will fail the very real challenge to ensure and encourage real diversity of media voices in our country.

As I said publicly last night this is the first government outside of wartime that is contemplating government-sanctioned journalism.

The appointment of a person to act as a so called “public interest media advocate” to on the one hand oversee media company mergers to protect the diversity of voices, and on the other hand oversee the industry’s standards represents direct government intervention into free speech.

Senator Conroy is deliberately obscure on detail but this is what he is proposing.

The Government will appoint someone who will have the power to decide whether a media company’s standards pass muster. If they do then what I would term the Public Interest Tsar, will permit the company to operate as a “Registered Media Firm.”

The proposed Advocate will have power to decide whether or not an industry-funded regulatory body – like The Australian Press Council which Registered Media Firms will be forced to join – is effectively upholding those standards. If this new Tsar decides it isn’t, then the advocate has the power to revoke the publisher’s exemption from privacy laws which are essential for journalists to do their job. Namely to report without fear or favour.

Effectively the government-appointed advocate will have the power to close down our ability to report on that which is going on in our society.

This is outrageous. The Government is saying that, if their appointed representative does not like what the media is doing, it will take away the basic, fundamental, rights of a free press. Rights that are enshrined in every other modern democracy in the world.

At the other end of the Advocate’s job description the oversight of diversity turns a deliberate blind eye to the fact that all Australians have access to more diversity in news, opinion and commentary than at any time in history.

Foxtel alone carries 14 news channels – none of which, I may add, it exercises editorial control over. There are now 16 free to air channels, including a dedicated ABC news channel. There are scores of radio stations and an almost infinite number of online voices both domestic and international.

Frankly the so-called public interest test is nothing more than a political interest test.

Senator Conroy contemplates a situation where the Public Interest Media Advocate could well find themself ruling on whether it would be better to let a media company die than to be purchased by another one.

Knock, knock – it is the 21st Century.

In an information environment which is being re-shaped almost daily by new technology and devices, the ability of highly-pressured companies to invest and survive has now had an extra layer of enervating regulation proposed.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, The Australian Communications and Media Authority and the Foreign Investment Review Board all have extensive powers to enforce diversity and ensure competition so why on earth do we need another layer unless it is to impose politically motivated oversight? Where has the case been made. The Convergence Review itself couldn’t even provide a definition of that which constituted the public interest and preposterously left it to a proposed new regulator itself to define.

Can you imagine the effect this would have on any investor contemplating an entry into the media market?

Make no mistake, none of the measures the government demands the parliament pass into law within a week have any of the lofty purpose it pretends they do.

These measures are not seriously intended to protect diversity or improve media standards – indeed they ironically propose abolishing the 75% reach rule which secures diversity in regional areas. The measures matter so little that there was an offensively brief statement with little detail and no rationale offered. One is forced to assume no reasoning was offered because it is inconvenient to justify that which is proposed. Rather it relies on a shabby fast action than explain the reasons for confronting a fundamental basic right to the operation of a free society – freedom of speech and an energetic media.

Friends, as business people we know we can’t ignore the great technological developments now underway in the media sphere and the business sphere more generally.

The psychology of our policy makers is simply out of step with the times. We already live in a world of media diversity broader than ever before, thanks to the impact of new technology in allowing the dissemination of more points of view than at any time in human civilisation – it is mass, it is niche, it is democratic and it has all happened without any government contribution at all.

Technology has already given unprecedented power to consumers, making them the guardians of diversity and democracy. That power is going to increase further. Regulation of the type that is being proposed is going to put the media industry further out of step with the times. It will rob us of the ability to take advantage of the technological trends that you will see whenever you go to a major technology trade fair, such as the Consumer Electronics Show.

Gab

14 Mar 13 at 2:35 pm
How much more damage can this “government” do in its death throes over the next six months? How much will Australians cop before they take to the streets demanding an election?

Viva

14 Mar 13 at 2:35 pm
If I’m not mistaken that apologia has a touch of the ‘Tim Blairs’ about it.

manalive

14 Mar 13 at 3:58 pm
How much more damage can this “government” do in its death throes over the next six months?

The Gillard government’s epitaph:

Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear!

Actually, the more I think of it, The AbbottAbbottAbbott is the left’s great white whale.

Craig Mc

14 Mar 13 at 3:59 pm
“Either way it’s a contemptible character assassination of a fine Minister who is only trying to raise the standards of the appalling News Corp empire.”

A fine Minister. Too funny. I think Hammygar is a mock character, or a straw-man for everyone to pile on. I agree on News Corp though. As much a gatekeeper organization of the Right as Fairfax is of the Left.

Paul

14 Mar 13 at 4:08 pm
Hammy: After actually seeing the legislation, Richard Aland will be in tomorrow’s edition of the SMH with a grovelling apology for wilfully misrepresenting the intent of Senator Conroy’s legislation:

Journalist exemptions under the Privacy Act would apply only to those media organisations who signed up to a self-regulating press standards body. How wicked is that?

As I’m sure you know, the legislation gives the Government’s representative, the PIMA, the specific power to cancel, or suspend News Limited’s membership of a declared ‘news media self-regulation body’ - thereby revoking its ‘journalism’ exemption from the Privacy Act 1988 and effectively shutting down the news-gathering side of the business. She will be able to do this administratively, with 28 days notice – and for a satifyingly wide range of subjective reasons.

I think you will agree with me that Senator Conroy has been pretty shrewd. He has managed to create the impression that all he is trying to do is force ogres like Mordoch to join a toothier Australian Press Council – when he is really creating the weapon to close the OZ and the Tele down for not publishing good-think.

He has the turkeys of the Love Media calling excitedly for Christmas.

Dr Faustus

14 Mar 13 at 4:10 pm
I agree on News Corp though. As much a gatekeeper organization of the Right as Fairfax is of the Left.

Much to my dismay, The Australian editorialised for the election of a Labor government in 2007; and again in 2010. It declared Rudd its Australian of the Year in 2008. Hardly the work of a gatekeeper of the Right.

Ubique

14 Mar 13 at 4:23 pm
by far and away the strongest interview I have seen on Commissar Conroy’s proposed media restrictions is here
It should be up on every conservative blog

val majkus

14 Mar 13 at 4:53 pm
Conroy would never have played any sport

Actually, he is an exceptionally good golfer – I know this because he has won his Department’s annual charity golf day handsomely, and against people who hate him and were trying hard. He plays regularly.

How a busy Cabinet Minister finds time to work on his swing is something only he can tell us.

johanna

14 Mar 13 at 4:57 pm
Given that Thommo is a suspended member of the Labor Party, he still must vote to instruction or face expulsion. So his reported opposition to Conroy’s Bill is just empty noise- the acid test is to see how he votes at the division, not in the grandstanding before hand.

Cold-Hands

14 Mar 13 at 5:00 pm
Conroy would never have played any sport

Actually, he is an exceptionally good golfer – I know this because he has won his Department’s annual charity golf day handsomely, and against people who hate him and were trying hard. He plays regularly.

How a busy Cabinet Minister finds time to work on his swing is something only he can tell us.

I should have thought about it a bit and said that the cnut would never have been involved in team sport for the obvious reason of being hated by all and sundry.

Huckleberry Chunkwot

14 Mar 13 at 5:11 pm
Read a sensible comment here.

Tried to Mate but gagged to much …

Abraham

14 Mar 13 at 5:27 pm
According to Bolt, Shagger’s “no” vote is another attempt to show up the opposition. The LNP will be forced to “pair ” Thommo, having said that they will not accept his tainted vote. Apparently Pyne has confirmed that they will continue to reject Shagger’s vote.

Cold-Hands

14 Mar 13 at 6:59 pm
Got what he deserved. A sheep in wolves’ clothing, hoping to have a set of sharp teeth implanted. It’s not easy to be a blood-and-fire dictator when your overall aspect is that of Mr Bean.

Keep giving it to him, News Ltd. But don’t keep us laughing too long, because we need to remember that Conroy and his ilk are loathsome and dangerous people who need to be thoroughly fucked over at the ballot box as soon as is humanly possible.

perturbed

14 Mar 13 at 11:01 pm
Perturbed..implants require osteointegration. Are you implying that that the Commissar has a spine??

Steve of Glasshouse

15 Mar 13 at 12:00 am
Slightly off topic, but has anyone set up an unofficial Catallaxian Internet Network that this mob of Fascists can’t destroy?

Winston SMITH

15 Mar 13 at 4:56 pm

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