There are a couple of explanations that could be given for the aborted Rudd coup. The Machiavellian version would be that Crean agreed with Gillard to be the ‘fall guy’ and engineered a showdown to damage Rudd who was not yet prepared for the challenge.
An alternative explanation would be that Rudd was on board for the coup attempt and got cold feet at the eleventh hour – a bit like Brutus and Cassius deciding to sheath their knives on the Ides of March after Caesar saw what they were about to do.
Another explanation is that it was a typical example of Labor ineptitude – its inability to deliver any policy.
Of course it should not be excluded that Tony Abbott engineered the aborted showdown. He seems to have been the winner from this fiasco.
Morte di Giulio Cesare (Vincenzo Camuccini), 1798
Samuel J.
Interesting, but not enough options. I stand by the one suggested by Mk50 and me. Yesterday’s fiasco for the Liars’ Pardy had Rudd’s vengeance written all over it … and he is far from finished with them.
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 6:39 am
Nikki Savva’s article is a gem. Labor was faced with a choice between two devils known to them, the mad and the bad. They chose the bad.
It’s the best summary you’ll find, read the whole thing; you know where it is – in the evil Murdoch Realm of Broadsheetia.
Blogstrop
22 Mar 13 at 6:40 am
How is Rudd any worse off now than he was this time yesterday?
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 6:57 am
Hey lets not forget us and KRudd and even Simon Crean. This was Labor’s perfect storm and the Libs were tucked up safely dockside.
Krudd if he survives the forthcoming day of reckoning in his own electorate will have clear air to finally excise union tentacles from parliamentary Labor.
The rest of the current blighted crop of assorted hucksters have publicly committed themselves to going out in a blaze of glory marching arm in arm towards the electoral abyss singing ‘Solidarity Forever’ which is to me the most delicious prospect.
Simon Crean has endeared himself yet again as one of the very few Labor pollies who is prepared, albeit very late, to finally put his principles in front of power politics. Alas too late for him or his career but history will treat him relatively kindly. Ditto Joel Fitzgibbon.
Champagne’s on the ice.
Tapdog
22 Mar 13 at 7:01 am
I can’t believe how few stenographers have asked themselves what role Tony Abbott has played in this.
Entropy
22 Mar 13 at 7:01 am
Tap dog, I will think more of Crean ( and ferguson et al) if they ask Abbott at the next sitting to call a no confidence motion and they together cross the floor. I would honour them forever if the called the motion themselves. But not being a labour rat is more important than serving your country.particularly if you grew up in the
religionparty.Entropy
22 Mar 13 at 7:06 am
That explanation works for me.
TerjeP
22 Mar 13 at 7:09 am
The ABC and other media claques will continue to make noises along the lines of “phew! what a week that was!” and report the outcome of the media bills and the leadership no-contest, but studiously avoid the truth about what this all represents.
It is now fair to say that News Ltd. has over-corrected by having so many “other voices” that it’s getting harder to find reasoned comment in the mix, but still possible. A measure of the idiocy now displayed there is Troy Bramston lamenting that this was Conroy’s last chance to do something good with media control. We know spin-meisters are control freaks, but that’s really out there.
blogstrop
22 Mar 13 at 7:14 am
Probably the only way Troy would get a senior editor position, Blogstrop.
Entropy
22 Mar 13 at 7:19 am
It is an invention, I think, of the Canberra stenographers. It is a bullship term.
If only they had “clear air” the Labor leaders would be better heard, their policies would be lovingly embraced and so on. That is what the sycophants write.
Simply put the inept ALP dills cannot operate effectively in normal daily circumstances, with all their competing priorities and distractions and unexpected interruptions.
I must or I will go broke, so must News Ltd (instead of being distracted by the need to send its CEO out to remind government of its right to exist freely), coal miners must (instead of having to lay down their shovels to defend themselves against Labor’s new successfully run business tax).
“Clear air”!
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 7:20 am
Old Leather face is warning journo’s sympathetic to Rudd to quit destabilising.
Great! Even the luv media is at war with itself!!!
Splatacrobat
22 Mar 13 at 7:32 am
I just voted for Julia on the shakemyhead online poll. Heh heh heh.
Entropy
22 Mar 13 at 7:32 am
@SamuelJ
The Machiavellian version works for me.
NoFixedAddress
22 Mar 13 at 7:33 am
Kevin Rudd by faltering with his challenge has burnt his own supporters.It is most unlikely that he will be in a position to become leader again,even after the election.
sabena
22 Mar 13 at 7:35 am
Perhaps not so much that Kevni got cold feet, but rather in calling a snap spill, TLS forced the issue before he had all those oaths of fealty signed in blood.
lotocoti
22 Mar 13 at 7:36 am
@Entropy,
You cannot have representative government from the Australian Labor ‘Union’ Party.
NoFixedAddress
22 Mar 13 at 7:39 am
I would suggest that KRudd would have been silly to challenge before the budget. Let Gillard and Swann own that inevitable albatross – with its more drain on public purse initiatives… Which will have to be there to placate the unions.
He could then do something he can’t right now – differentiate. He could say if re-elected that he would cut spending, reform the party, get rid of unions etc. And have a real shot at winning the election as he would be “different”.
And so what if some resign now – they are the vanguard of a changed ministry. It’ll only work to their advantage.
And I obviously don’t know what Crean and Gillard discussed the night before – but it would fit in the great negoshiator’s character to force things to a head whilst she still had the advantage. So is Crean a pawn, or is he playing a double double game of his own?
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 7:39 am
I think it is pretty clear that he just didn’t have the support that the back grounding to the stenographers implied. But I also believe that the back grounding also has the purpose of vengeance and further discrediting Gillard, if that is possible.
Entropy
22 Mar 13 at 7:40 am
Random thought re the motion to suspend standing orders (73-71) – Dick Adams wasn’t in the house and would have had a pair.
Even with all the independents it wouldn’t have gotten up.
Driftforge
22 Mar 13 at 7:41 am
Good morning Entropy of 7.06 AM.
You will never see a Labor critter cross the floor to bring down an ALP government. Every one of them would be well aware of, and some may have assisted in, the never ending excoriation of Sir John Kerr.
For the same reason, you won’t see this G G refusing to give her assent to any legislative rubbish served up to her. Ultimately, it will be up to us to get rid of Gillard and Co.
HRT
22 Mar 13 at 7:45 am
option 3 – Hanlon’s razor.
Though in this case, it was likely malice and stupidity.
duncanm
22 Mar 13 at 7:48 am
I haven’t seen any explanation to better this one from 3:02pm yesterday, by a certain scribe.
m0nty
22 Mar 13 at 7:50 am
Rodney Cavalier has an intelligent analysis of the piece of theatre of the absurd.
Rudd has extracted an exquisite revenge by continuing to provoke and destabilise.
The rumblings aren’t over – how can anyone believe this is now case closed?
So Victory for the AWU! Onwards towards the cliff comrades – faster , faster!
John Cowperthwaite
22 Mar 13 at 7:52 am
People are over thinking this. It is pretty simplistic. They are stupid people. Really dumb egotistical and evil people.
It was ineptitude.
It is like the “great negotiator” myth. She is yet to negotiate anything. She just capitulates on everything until the other side, eyes agog, say you beauty yes thank you.
It is like Swan that cannot explain anything to save his life.
Border protection, pink bats, school halls at 5 times the normal cost, NBN cost benefits, live cattle trade, Craig Emerson, misogyny and so it goes on – all stupid, dumb and incoherent.
If I see a herd of black and white striped animals in the shape of horses I think Zebras not who painted the donkeys like that. That is all you need do here.
These guys are stupid to the core. Events overtook them, Rudd proved gutless, Gillard tilted at a windmill and the whole thing was a clusterfuck of epic proportions for Labor now locked into a 30% primary vote at best.
I couldn’t have wished for a better outcome and neither could Abbott. And that should terrify any person in Labor with half a brain but as can be seen by yesterday well over half that caucus would rather be stupid and unemployed than thoughtful and in with a chance.
God bless them.
Mark
22 Mar 13 at 7:52 am
If KRudd and JGillard win their respective seats at the next election then who will ‘own’ the ALP.
KRudd can mount a very good case that his PMship was destroyed by the faceless ones who foisted policies on him then turned on him.
NoFixedAddress
22 Mar 13 at 7:54 am
But, Oh Mighty M0nt – the Great and Powerful, how do we get our wish: the re-election of Labor in September?
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 8:00 am
Why smoking hydroponic weed is bad. Ann Summers’ ‘esteemed’ contribution to yesterdays clusterf****.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/judgment-of-history-will-be-kinder-to-pm-than-tv-news-cycle-20130321-2girw.html#ixzz2OCwPhmzu
Abraham
22 Mar 13 at 8:08 am
If Rudd’s intention is to continue destabilising the Labor party should have no choice but to kick him out.
Gillard can say “he’s crossed the line”.
Rudd can say “here, I’ll draw another line over there”.
Splatacrobat
22 Mar 13 at 8:17 am
Long road to Sept, what happens if the Comrades get stuck on 28% TPP? Rudd is nowhere near an ex-parrot, he’s just resting.
Alfonso
22 Mar 13 at 8:17 am
Make that 42% TPP.
Alfonso
22 Mar 13 at 8:19 am
Is there another Newspoll being collected over the weekend?
Splatacrobat
22 Mar 13 at 8:20 am
DEFROST THE PRESSES!
Miss Anne Summers escort of Mr Anne Summers of their
ABC sez in FauxFacts: Judgment of history will be kinder to PM than TV news cycle
JamesK
22 Mar 13 at 8:25 am
It could also well be that KRudd decided in his magnanimity to give the buggers one final opportunity of saving a few votes. In the end they voted to kick him in the face again which leaves him able to say on September 15th “Nobody can say I wasn’t out there trying fot the best result.”
It was a no win situation yesterday for him because a) he probably never wanted to win and b) he probably didn’t want the public humiliation of losing.
In losing
And also as Rabz suggested, Rudd is no worse off today than he was at this time yesterday.
Tapdog
22 Mar 13 at 8:25 am
Wilkie, Oakeshott and Windsor supported the no confidence motion. They should now withdraw their support and facilitate an election. They really need to explain how the can have no confidence but continue to support the minority government.
Katter ran away and Slipper and Thomson voted labor
Peter H
22 Mar 13 at 8:35 am
He is better off by far. He was able to stand in front of the camera with all of Australia seeing it over and over again, and say:
That is worth gold…
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 8:38 am
It’s like the dodgem cars at the show. When at their best they just go around in circles without crashing into each other while some dirty tattooed fugitive hangs of the back grinning. Otherwise they just crash into each other with child drivers spinning the steering wheel this way and that trying to get the thing to go forwards, backwards or any wards. And the dirty tattooed etc etc.
And at the end of the song we can get off and line up for the Cha Cha.
Pickles
22 Mar 13 at 8:40 am
To borrow a phrase from the insecure lefties – the ALP is an international laughing stock:
To people outside of Australia it is clear the ALP’s willingness to de-throne leaders is a cultural cancer.
Token
22 Mar 13 at 8:40 am
Was that Fiscal Conservative Kevin or post GFC Social Democrat Kevin speaking?
Token
22 Mar 13 at 8:41 am
Wow, the stopped watch is crowing about his ability to tell the right time twice a day…
Token
22 Mar 13 at 8:42 am
Hang on, didn’t he preface the statement above with the aside:
Unlike some, I am not prepared to dishonour my word which I gave solemnly.
That was gold.
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 8:47 am
Understatement of the Century.
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 8:52 am
The punters wouldn’t care… I reckon KRudd is by no means a spent force. And I’m pretty sure that we are going to see another bout of piling on on him from Gillard supporters to ensure that he is dead dead dead. And the usual media suspects are already doing that labling him dishonourable etc.
This has got a long way to go before it’s all played out.
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 8:53 am
The public’s education about what Labor actually does, as opposed to what Labor says it does, was actually improved significantly yesterday.
Those in the ‘burbs did not miss the narrative, cleverly used by TA last night, that the result that was the opposite of what everyone outside the party wanted was engineered by the Faceless Men.
In other words, if you vote for Labor, what you want will be ignored in favor of what the ALP machine wants.
A Queensland-style swing of 15% or more, leaving the rabble with 20-30 seats in a house of 150, is not only possible now, but probable.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 8:57 am
Saying all this – regardless if correct or not – the Libs should just encourage the meme that the second comming of KRudd is inevitable and that he will triumphantly be acclaimed to his rightful position…
And then buy a truckload of popcorn and watch the clusterfuck get even more cluster er … fucked! LOL!
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 9:02 am
As Linda Gibson said in The Castle, get ya hand off it, Daryl.
Plenty of people here correctly deduced days or weeks ago that Rudd wouldn’t run unless he had guaranteed numbers.
Plenty of others have pointed out that Rudd is the only member of the federal parliamentary ALP not damaged by yesterday’s fiasco.
And he won’t make the mistake again of having his caucus fan club go off half-cocked.
Look up Wiki: in 2019 he will still be only 62.
When it comes to politics, Mont, you’re just another knowall in the front bar.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 9:10 am
I realize that Samuel is being sarcastic, but one does wonder whether Rudd hates Gillard (and the ALP) so much that he’s teamed up with Abbott and Pyne to engineer yesterday’s fiasco. He’s certainly damaged his bitterest enemy, in his eyes a very desirable outcome. Would it surprise if he changed parties before the election on the basis of a reward already discussed? It’s been done before.
hammygar
22 Mar 13 at 9:21 am
I’m thinking Number 96; we’ve had the psychopathic blackmailer, we’ve yet to see the Nazi biker and the full-frontal nudity.
manalive
22 Mar 13 at 9:25 am
Todays Mark Knight cartoon in the Herald Sun is a ripper, accurately depicting the state of the (zombie) ALP.
(Spoiler: All it needs is for zombie Wayne Swan to be saying “Braaaaaaaaaaains”…. not because he want’s to eat them, but because he NEEDS one!!)
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 9:30 am
@ Tom 8.57am
I actually hope that KRudd wins his seat in the election.
He is the only person in the AL(union)P that has the motivation to destroy the nexus with the ACTU faceless ones and create a true representative ALP.
NoFixedAddress
22 Mar 13 at 9:30 am
The problem is Ms Gillard, people just don’t trust or like her much, but her party love her. It’s a pickle.
candy
22 Mar 13 at 9:32 am
Comedy Gold Hammy. You’re back in form.
jupes
22 Mar 13 at 9:35 am
And Matho. He gets another six months in the lodge and today is the start of footy season.
jupes
22 Mar 13 at 9:37 am
But unions are all they have. What do the ALP represent without them?
The problem with Krudd (well one of them anyway) is that he stands for nothing except big noting himself. He is a man on no principles. None.
jupes
22 Mar 13 at 9:41 am
Poll (at ShameMyHead.com):
Total votes: 22686
Yes: 18%
No: 82%
What a beautiful set of numbers.
Disclaimer: These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.
(Boilerplate disclaimer included so our resident Leftist trolls don’t run around screaming “It’s not a real SCIENTIFIC poll! So neener!!)
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 9:45 am
hmmm, yes. I think it raises the question about the role that Tony Abbott’s playing.
Matt
22 Mar 13 at 9:45 am
I wouldn’t be ascribing intricate Machiavellian plotting and execution to this one.
I’m going with fuck up.
The form line supports my theory.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 9:48 am
Yep.
The secret meetings were in Gough’s shed.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 9:49 am
Did anyone see Latham on Paul Murray Live last night?
Seriously, Murray has to get a padlock on the fridge in the green room.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 9:51 am
FMD. Who are the 18%?
Just keep watching the (huge) debt number at aofm.gov.au. The next six months are going to cost us a bomb.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 9:51 am
Driving into work I thought I’d switch over to Jon Faine to see what the ABC spin on it was.
He was talking to some woman who was claiming what a great result yesterday was for Gillard, her personal strength and honour and “integrity” shining through.
Then it was “OK enough about federal politics, let’s talk about state politics…”
Then he seemed to get hung up discussing how bad it was that the media laws failed.
So, yeah, it’s all good for Labor apparently…..
MDMConnell
22 Mar 13 at 9:51 am
Tom (@9.51pm) asked:
Answer: Union leaders, other Labor MPs, people looking to become union leaders/ALP MPs…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 9:54 am
Latham has a fairly violent side to him and he barely managed to contain it. The irony of him bagging Kenny about being a failed liberal candidate was delicious. As a leftie he just doesn’t get irony
Tiny Dancer
22 Mar 13 at 10:00 am
Chris Bowen resigns ministry and goes to the back bench. The ship is sinking and the rats are….
Sirocco
22 Mar 13 at 10:01 am
Thanks Abraham 8.08 for the link.
I’m so sick of people saying how tough Gillard is! Being tough doesn’t mean she can do the job, doesn’t mean she’s competent!
Muhammad Ali is tough but I wouldn’t want him performing brain surgery on me!
Anne
22 Mar 13 at 10:03 am
Leigh Lowe 9.51
I think Latham might be on Psych drugs. He appears a little toooo laid back and the frequent tongue flicking about the lips is highly suspicious.
Anne
22 Mar 13 at 10:09 am
Tell them not to put down their shovels, which form a most effective method of persuasion!
JohnA
22 Mar 13 at 10:10 am
It’s instructive to watch the narrative change on this issue. Bernie Ripoll on AM said it allowed the ALP the chance for a fresh start. What a load of complete hogwash, implying the Government just needed clear air and now everything will be OK for Labor.
Except the leadership tensions are there in part because of the poor performance of the Gillard Labor Government. Had the Government performed well with a corresponding lift in the opinion polls, a challenge would have been quashed.
Crean and Ripoll have cause and effect arse backwards. It’s Labor’s propensity to do this with everything they touch which is killing them in the polls.
Lloyd
22 Mar 13 at 10:12 am
It is not surprising that all the EMILY’s listers supported ABORTING a coup!
Andrew
22 Mar 13 at 10:21 am
Bowen quits and another one bites the dust. Julia will not be happy until she has a cabinet containing only sychophants like those backside lickers Emerson and Swan. What a shambles.
Robbo
22 Mar 13 at 10:21 am
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Bowen apply for political assylum at the Equadorian Embassy after serving in the Gillard cabinet. Either that or the lunatic assylum.
H B Bear
22 Mar 13 at 10:26 am
May I propose a new nickname for Jools?
“Shidas.”
Everything she touches….
James in Melbourne
22 Mar 13 at 10:28 am
It has occurred to me that Rudd might be holding to one last hope: that Julia will have a charge arising out of the Victorian investigation and will resign over that. (Not that I can that there is any offence involved in her dealing with the Power of Attorney, as I argued last week in an open thread.)
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 10:29 am
Toughness is the only thing Gillard has going for her.
The question I have is, how actively is Rudd lobbying behind the scenes? We all know he’s popping up everywhere and stealing limelight as he goes, but I wonder if the backroom stuff is being actively orchestrated by him or just his fans within the party and/or those who help to save his seat.
Anyone know?
Steve D
22 Mar 13 at 10:29 am
Carr about to have a press conference in Washington. Any chance he will resign? Any chance that Black Caviar will be beaten tonight? My money is on slippery old Bob doing another backside licking demonstration. He’s really good at that.
Robbo
22 Mar 13 at 10:32 am
Toughness combined with dishonesty and a catastrophic political agenda is not an admirable quality.
Poor Old Rafe
22 Mar 13 at 10:33 am
That is because you are a slobbering, barely coherent fucktard of the highest order.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 10:35 am
Seems to me it’s Labor (can’t spell), has handled the whole thing with the elan of an antelope with a broken leg!
Hubert East
22 Mar 13 at 10:35 am
And I agree Rudd’s not really hurt by what happened. As long as there’s no obvious alternative replacement for Gillard, and he remains an MP, he’ll be there.
(Unless you believe Gillard can actually recover from this position somewhat, but that would be like winning every major lottery around the world this year.)
Steve D
22 Mar 13 at 10:36 am
I wouldn’t say tough, just an obstinate c*nt
Dan
22 Mar 13 at 10:38 am
SfB, you can report to the police when you have dropped off your paperwork to centrelink. Just remember not to walk past any schools.
Tiny Dancer
22 Mar 13 at 10:40 am
Has anyone checked the betting market today?
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 10:42 am
Yes, Black Caviar is running around as favourite tonight.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 10:44 am
What’s missing is the PSA leaking stuff – usually the case when the Coalition are heading for opposition.
Louis Hissink
22 Mar 13 at 10:46 am
Stabilidy!
Bowen gone.
Mar’n Fer’son, Butler and Kim il Carr next.
Lardarse vowing to hunt down all conspirators…
Boob Carr possibly in the firing line.
More popcorn, please Carruthers!
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 10:48 am
So, where is the dumped former Attorney-General Robert McClelland in all these shenanigans? Maybe the next stanza in this farce will be his resignation to take up a judicial appointment in NSW. How quickly can Barry O’Farrell make him an offer and thereby bring about a by-election for his seat?
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 10:50 am
Are there still some dimwits here who argue against Rudd having been initially deposed because he was an unbearable boss who ran a shambolic office and people just would not work for him?
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 10:53 am
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Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 10:53 am
NT News front page…scroll down. Says it all.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 10:56 am
Yes, he was deposed because he is a narcissistic moron who was going to lead the party into electoral oblivion.
They had no option but to replace him with a narcissistic moron who is leading the party into electoral oblivion.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 10:57 am
Good to see you doing something that was my suggestion, Chunklewart.
Next: open the lid to the toilet bowl, lower your head, find the flush button, and away you go…
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 10:58 am
Rinse and repeat Steve.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 10:59 am
Breathtaking ignorance of the law Shitfer.
The offence would be signing a document as witness when the person executing the document was not present ……. the end.
Unsure how you know with certainty that Blewitt signed the document, Gillard had identified him as the person named on the document and then signed as witness immediately afterwards.
You would have had to be in the room (unlike Blewitt).
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 11:03 am
SfB. Here’s a hint – stop licking windows
Tiny Dancer
22 Mar 13 at 11:04 am
I literally laughed out loud when I saw Yarralumla dandy and anti Asian shopkeeper romper stomper Bill Shorten on The Project last night saying yesterday’s ‘vote’ was an ‘emphatic victory for the prime minister.’
C.L.
22 Mar 13 at 11:05 am
Link me to an article that explains how it is an offence, Lowe. And not just a Michael Smith opinion – a proper legal explanation.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 11:05 am
He’s definitely on something stronger than Milo. The arm waving in Chris Kenny’s face was totally out of order. Had to laugh at Latham telling Kenny to “get out of his bubble and into the real world”, to which Kenny replied that he would be going home to his real world “without an indexed parliamentary pension” …… ie “you are a bludger Latham”
I was dying for Kenny to say something about taxi-drivers but he restrained himself.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 11:08 am
Except she isn’t tough.
She was a weakling with Bruce Wilson, she’s frightened of marriage and children, she was terrified of press coverage of her illegal slush fund, she’s petrified by Tony Abbott, she was panic-stricken by Julie Bishop, she’s mortified about apologising for her border death toll.
Gillard isn’t tough. She’s an amoral sociopath.
C.L.
22 Mar 13 at 11:09 am
Victorian Crimes Act Shitfer.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 11:09 am
Dude’s probably happy he was out of the country… no way he’ll give up FM willingly, but he’ll sit there quietly trying to play both sides.
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 11:10 am
I dealt with that last week, LL.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 11:10 am
Nothing tough about a frightened bully.
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 11:11 am
Don’t do it Leigh. The window licker will claim it as some sort of pyrrhic victory and claim that you are doing his bidding.
I think that the fuckwit has had enough attention for one day, it’s time to let him go back to enjoying quality time with his “wife and kids”.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 11:11 am
So anyway, back to the thread topic
And now Bown has resigned.
So now the gillard Party is all united and they’re all happy little campers. Stability…bwahahahaha.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 11:11 am
Steve’s trying out hammy’s tongue in cheek approach now.
cohenite
22 Mar 13 at 11:12 am
This.
Lloyd
22 Mar 13 at 11:14 am
You know how fucked up this government is? Andrew Wilkie now seems a sensible and righteous chap in comparision.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 11:14 am
Tiny, as Dogshit QC’s purpose in life is flushed down the sewer of Australian political history and he has to fight harder and harder to annoy people and get a reaction to his look-at-me trolling, I expect the amoeba’s next tactic will be to USE CAPITAL LETTERS.
Or he may just take his binoculars to the local school.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 11:15 am
PS Shitfer, I am not going to run free legal tutorials for retards here.
But, for your homework, go down to your nearest solicitor who is not known to you (that is, not the legal aid guy who trys to get you off all of the odious crimes you commit), and ask him/her to witness a stat dec for you.
Offer no identification and say that you don’t want to sign it in front of them but would appreciate if they just sign it as witness and hand it back to you blank.
Report back to us on the reaction.
My betting is that it will be a very short answer.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 11:16 am
C’mon steve, what was your reasoning to conclude Gillard is not criminally liable if she misrepresented the execution of the POA?
cohenite
22 Mar 13 at 11:19 am
Remember, SfB is a conservative – he only supports ALP at the moment because of their integrity. The current ALP is the natural choice for genuine conservatives like Steve
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 11:19 am
Chris Kenny is in fine form today.
Lloyd
22 Mar 13 at 11:20 am
How can anyone vote for this rabble in September? Even the most uneducated buffoon recognizes that this government is beyond repair.
dover_beach
22 Mar 13 at 11:23 am
Tough? More like too dishonest to admit failure.
Craig Mc
22 Mar 13 at 11:25 am
The Annual Spillard Awards:
Bonus cartoon added.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 11:26 am
According to opinion polls, around 30% of those polled will disagree with you. Either that or they really are dumber than uneducated buffoons. Oh wait…
Lloyd
22 Mar 13 at 11:26 am
I bet Tim is on the dog and bone today lining up tickets for the grand finals. That was a close call yesterday, he nearly got de-biked in the middle of a junket, and wouldn’t have had time to get back and stash all the memorabilia.
brc
22 Mar 13 at 11:29 am
Bob Ellis sighting:
– CC.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 11:30 am
I’d go with the stupidity excuse. This mob are still playing at student politics, where they think numbers is everything, and all they have to do is force through whatever they want.
Unfortunately this is the big game and their egos won’t allow them to learn the life lessons that are required with their new positions.
Winston Smith
22 Mar 13 at 11:32 am
Rolled gold Hamster at 9:21 am
JamesK
22 Mar 13 at 11:32 am
Just heard Nikki Gemmell on the Today Show say how terrific Jools is and how much womynz love her. Karl was incredulous and basically called her a lunatic.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 11:45 am
Well Rudd has said that he won’t challenge…
I thought that Rudd played it really smart – and turned the thing around really well. I was wrong. Unless there is other pressure applied (threats of kneecappings etc) behind the scenes, it’s just the usual Labor stuff-up gone balistic. Nothing to see here – move along.
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 11:52 am
So, stabilidy until the Budget Session, punctuated by instabilidy each time a poll is published. Then more instabilidy when the Budget is revealed:
- Revision of the surplus “Labor Values: Why 30% of GDP is not enough debt” – Swan the Master Salesperson at work;
- Middle-class welfare cuts “Bye Bye Baby (bonus)“;
- Hands in the superannuation jar;
- Budget details of NDIS and Gonski show that “these initiatives for the next 50 years” are smoke and mirrors;
- Carbon Tax index increased to 10% to avoid next Angry Summer and transition to ETS pushed back from 2015/16 and out of the Budget forward estimate to avoid the annual $6 bn financing hole.
By mid June, the parliamentary ALP will be showing stabilidy and solidaridy by singing Abide With Me on its 45 degree poop deck. The major concern will be Abbott relying too much on Gillard’s winning ways.
Dr Faustus
22 Mar 13 at 11:53 am
This will no doubt bring down much abuse on my head, but maybe Hammygar is on to something here. I was intrigued by two recent statements. One by Julie Bishop that the Coalition would look kindly on appointing Rudd to a foreign affiars related post, and the other Abbott’s singling out only the (Liberal sponsored) 1967 referendum and Rudd’s apology as two significant Aboriginal reconciliation events. He did so as a preface to his commitmnent to bring Aboriginal affairs into the PM’s office. Maybe signals are being sent to Kev.
rafiki
22 Mar 13 at 11:55 am
In order to learn life lessons, you need a real job. Which is why our troll, the welfare cheat, is mystified by what happened yesterday.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 11:57 am
Karl’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 12:02 pm
That the opposition wanted to encourage division in Labor ranks is not Hamster’s allegation.
Moreover Rudd appointed Costello, Nelson and Fischer to very significant jobs
JamesK
22 Mar 13 at 12:07 pm
True, but he at least he knows he’s a buffoon, Gemmell thinks she is intellectually serious.
dover_beach
22 Mar 13 at 12:07 pm
So you agree is a tool then?
Lloyd
22 Mar 13 at 12:08 pm
Stevanovic is an intellectual giant to your pygmy liar
JamesK
22 Mar 13 at 12:09 pm
Agreed Huck.
I think it is a hurdle requirement to participate here to (a) know the fundamentals of the subject matter or (b) shut the fuck up.
Don’t intend to explain the fundamentals of forging and uttering offences, which are rooted in common law for centuries (as distinct from a Roxon/Conroy fart-in-the-bath thought bubble).
Shitfer has a wife and kids?????
Jeez!
Has anyone alerted DoCS?
If Shitfer has offspring at home it prompts me t o think that this affords another grandstanding opportunity for the Droner.
She could apologise to kids who weren’t adopted out.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 12:13 pm
Possibly the most embarrassing clusterfucked clown in the “business commentary” (hahahahahahahaha!!!) business finds a negative for Abbott in Labor’s self-immolation yesterday:
Stephen Mayne got this otherewise unemployable idiot his job. He’s a laughing stock in the business world who’s damaging his own company’s brand (which is now a subsidiary of News Ltd).
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 12:17 pm
Labor is not using its full resources to scare away Rudd. A shovel on the front yard at the very least. A forklift accident involving his car and the Brisbane River…
(I’m open to all suggestions as to how this may be resolved.)
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 12:17 pm
Cleverly picked up, [email protected].
When questioned about the future of Rudd this morning, Chris Bowen curiously remarked that Rudd would continue “in this House or the other”. Or words to that effect. Is he intimating that Rudd’s future is “back to the future” as a head bureaucrat or diplomat? It is a shame that the news pack does not actually listen to what is said.
Vicki
22 Mar 13 at 12:17 pm
‘Gemmell thinks she is intellectually serious’
Gemmell was an air head when she was on JJJ in the ‘nineties. She’s obviously been around the inner city dinner party circuit a few times since then, but brain transplants are not yet medically feasible!
Des Deskperson
22 Mar 13 at 12:17 pm
I like the idea that Gab was going through her usual daily routine of thumbing through the NT News and discovered that gem of a headline…
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I never thought I’d hear the day that a man who forced young recruits to salute the Nazi flag on Hitlers birthday would be called “Sensible”.
We must be living in the end of days…
Token
22 Mar 13 at 12:21 pm
Yep, it all over, unanimious & harmonious support for Gillard.
‘Peace in our times’ apparently
Richard D
22 Mar 13 at 12:21 pm
In addition to his well know legal qualifications, SteveLiar QC is a qualified Wrong-oligist.
Token
22 Mar 13 at 12:23 pm
From Chris Kenny’s blog,
Ouch! Nanny will send you to the naughty spot for that.
H B Bear
22 Mar 13 at 12:23 pm
“Tough” Gillard presents herself for coup grilling:
C.L.
22 Mar 13 at 12:30 pm
I’ve said it here before: beware the gender gap. It put Obama back in and the Mummy Bloggers and Nikki Gemmell clones are out in force for Jules, girl in a million etc. Tony and the Lib media flacks need to get very busy convincing women in the childbearing years (the main culprits) in the mortgage belts (the main pain) that they have been sold a Women’s Weekly pup with Julia. These women are unaware that Julia is a woman who takes other women’s husbands, destroys families, has a shady and criminally-associated past, has maxed out the credit card, pushes a socialist barrow left over from her student days and only pretends to understand the real issues that face women in families (such as juggling kids, jobs, the bills and the washing and keeping attractive enough to keep your husband away from people like her at the same time). This PM is a female idol with clay feet: a great disappointment to women everywhere.
Get the word out to the Mummy Bloggers, Tone. Invite some to meet with you and your wife and your sister and your daughters, and call the Women’s Weekly. As the WW and are a cabal of Labor-linked lefties editorially, while the bloggies are merely immersed in family and children not politics, be nice to them all (they can be won over by charm) but ever wary of WW spin. Best not to ignore it though.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 12:32 pm
Kevin Rudd has now ruled out ever standing for leadership of the ALP. But he didn’t say anything about his intentions in respect of the Liberal Party.
He’d be a far better bet than Abbott. I don’t know anybody at all who has anything but contempt for that man. I think he’s the most hated head of an Australian political party ever.
hammygar
22 Mar 13 at 12:36 pm
Yes because Kyle and Jackie O are such giants in the domain of political analysts. Yup, right up there with Elmer Fudd and Marl latham.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 12:36 pm
Breaking… Rudd issues statement: NEVER AGAIN!
Rudd renounces Labor leadership ambitions.
C.L.
22 Mar 13 at 12:36 pm
Two hours ago my hopes were dashed when Bob Carr figuratively got down on his knees in Washington and did another bit of backside licking on Julia. Somebody told me recently that slippery old Bob has a spine but he sure doesn’t look like that to me. Old habits, in Carr’s case very bad habits, die hard. Obviously he likes that backside stuff.
Robbo
22 Mar 13 at 12:36 pm
Three people are not statistically significant.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 12:38 pm
DC Mumbles (borrowing a Rudd term here) blames Gillard’s problems on DC:
I laughed when I heard one of the callers take us back to the days with TLS & DC were seen to be intellectual grunt behind Rudd’s Kitchen Cabinet of 4.
Token
22 Mar 13 at 12:39 pm
More gold from Nikki Savva in today’s Oz (don’t know if the link will work)
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 12:39 pm
Wow. The Hamster-sized-amygdala will have to spend the night of September 14 in a padded cell and strait-jacketed for his own protection. And possibly the decade after that, too.
James in Melbourne
22 Mar 13 at 12:40 pm
Just as I said above, CL. Beware. Anyone who is against such a friendly and open-hearted woman coming onto this ordinary popular show, struggling with strength against all the odds those dreadful males can throw at her, well, such naysayers to a woman having a go just have to be misogynists, don’t they?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 12:41 pm
I remember when Chris Pyne gave a serve to the ALPBC’s blonde interviewer about how he has been the shadow to 4 ministers. With Bowen going it will be 5.
Don’t you just love the Stabilidy…
Token
22 Mar 13 at 12:42 pm
Hammygar at 9.21 – high-five!
I can now reveal the truth: Kevin Rudd and Julie Bishop were secretly married months ago. There is now a Liberal Party move on to swap Kevni for Malcolm Turnbull, but apparently the ALP say Malcolm’s too much of a lefty.
Hammygar at 12.36 – wrong answer, but thank you for playing!
The correct answer is actually (a). Julia Gillard is easily the most hated leader of any political party in Australia, and probably in the southern hemisphere as well.
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 12:42 pm
Just heard on radio that Gillard Tweeted Ellen this morning, welcoming her to Australia.
GRAVITAS!
C.L.
22 Mar 13 at 12:44 pm
LOL, Hammy any sensible human being would read that the mean the Labor must come on hands and knees and give him the position.
SoB’s point about Gillard’s position with regard to the AWB shemozzle makes that quote very interesting…considering McClelland re-started the investigation, Rudd may have a few cards to play here.
Token
22 Mar 13 at 12:46 pm
Des, Air Head..???. FMD is that the best you can do? I’m not the vituperative kind but at the urging of others ( blast them!) I read some/a chunk of the purported “work” of “fiction” she wrote: A Bride striped bare. Years, it has taken me,years to even enter the fiction section of bookshop without my gorge rising. Even now, paperbacks with coloured covers in the possession of others bring on a sort of twitch and I reach for my lighter.
MT Isa Miner
22 Mar 13 at 12:49 pm
Don’t get out much do ya Hammy? You and Liz Farrelly obviously get around in the same circle
s.Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 12:53 pm
Sandilands would be please to speak to someone more reviled than he is. For once.
H B Bear
22 Mar 13 at 12:54 pm
On 7.30 last night, I watched the video of a triumphant and radiant Gillard striding back to her office to cheering and rapturous applause from her staff. Congratulations Julia. Well done. You are still the worst Prime Minister of the worst government in the history of federation. Fabulous!
We need a grownup in charge. The labor Party needs to be torn down to its foundations at the election so that we don’t have to put up with crap like this ever again.
Steve
22 Mar 13 at 12:56 pm
No. Votes.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 1:00 pm
FTFY. BIRM.
James in Melbourne
22 Mar 13 at 1:02 pm
Hammygar might be on to something there.
K. Rudd is a cut above the other ALP ministers and could be an asset to the Libs in government in a foreign ministry capacity perhaps, and bring his popularity with him. Stranger things have happened!
candy
22 Mar 13 at 1:06 pm
Wouldn’t a by-election in Queensland be the perfect parting twist of the knife?
Craig Mc
22 Mar 13 at 1:09 pm
She used the Steve de Brisbane line and balmed Gillard’s demise on “Angry White Men”. Karl told her every segment of the community hated her not just men.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 1:09 pm
I know Piers is talking about the ALP, but Hammy really does a great job playing the role of the Black Knight of the Cat…
Token
22 Mar 13 at 1:11 pm
“No. Votes.”
Txting an international visitor whlist her senior ministers resign and face emotional turmoil with all that situation entails, j. gillard seems to have no sense of proportion.
candy
22 Mar 13 at 1:11 pm
Julia on the radio with Kyle Sandilands?
– He of the “Is that your only sexual experience” [to a 14yo talking about having been sexually assaulted]?
– He of the “you put her in a concentration camp and watch the weight fall off…” comment about Magda Szubanski?
– He who once said of a female reporter “fat slag”, “Your hair’s very ‘90s. And your blouse. You haven’t got that much titty to be having that low cut a blouse”, and called another ““fat”, “liar”, “chick that I hate…”
That Kyle? (note that it’s only ever females that Kyle practices his “comedy” on? Is that perhaps because if he said similar to/about a male he would end up having to pick up his teeth from the asphalt of the 2DAY FM carpark?)
According to Julia some mysoginsts are ok, because they provide her with an audience to “speek at the ostray-yun pee-pull… Oi mean TO… TO the Ostray-yun pee-pull”"….
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 1:16 pm
I’ll amend that to “Angry White Men” and “Bitchy Women” now IT.
Nice people like me, m0nty and SteveC on the other hand, still think she’s quite reasonable and likeable.
She did stuff up the media reform bizo, though.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 1:16 pm
Can you imagine, Candy, Foreign Minister J. Bishop saying:
I don’t believe Rudd is an asset anywhere.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 1:16 pm
SfB, did you avoid going near schools when you reported? I’m worried about you.
Tiny Dancer
22 Mar 13 at 1:18 pm
If he wasn’t such an inveterate bullshit artist, people might take him at his word.
So if not Lardarse or Kevni, who then?
Kate ‘Airhead’ Ellis?
At least she’s got the glam factor and how on earth could she be any worse than Lardarse?
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 1:19 pm
Remember how straight SoB, M0nty & Steve C sat up with Gillard tooted on the 457 dog whistle?
Token
22 Mar 13 at 1:19 pm
“I don’t believe Rudd is an asset anywhere.”
Gab, he does seem quite friendly with Julie Bishop, so perhaps there’s a job there somewhere for him?
candy
22 Mar 13 at 1:20 pm
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Stop it SfB, you’re killing me here….
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 1:21 pm
Labor and the Liberals could do a prisoner exchange swap with Rudd and Turnbull.
The ceremony could take place in the middle of of some no man’s land: a street in Civic on a Monday night, perhaps?
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 1:21 pm
Civility prevents me from replying to your goading, Candy.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 1:24 pm
“If not Lardarse or Kevni, who then?”
Any of their fellows with a bit of courage and ambition could challenge and make a go of their party and make a fresh start,
but they all hide behind Ms Gillard’s skirts for some reason. Scaredy cats they are.
candy
22 Mar 13 at 1:24 pm
candy, you seem to have ignored my nomination.
JC – We need to get the “Kate for Temporary PM” Bandwagon on a roll!
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 1:32 pm
C’mon Rabz, I think that the former town bike of Adelaide may have a few more skeletons in the closet than TLS.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 1:36 pm
Sure thing sfb, right after Malcolm has decapitalised the NBN. Rudd will then be convicted of treason and executed. I couldn’t less what the union thugs do with Turdball, but I’m sure he’d prefer Krudster’s humane quick ending.
Empire Strikes Back
22 Mar 13 at 1:40 pm
Leave Kate alone!
C.L.
22 Mar 13 at 1:40 pm
You know what they say about people that are described as ‘nice’, but to describe yourself as ‘nice’? Wow.
dover_beach
22 Mar 13 at 1:41 pm
Our trolls actually believe this scheming rodent.
The Little Shit also says he will stay on in parliament. Why? Superannuation?
I’ll believe him we he resigns his seat (or his electors boot him out, which is now on the cards). Meantime his presence on the backbench is designed to destabilise the party. Politics 000.
I’m tipping he’ll do his first street walk next week, when he resumes tweeting.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 1:41 pm
Oh yes. Another slagging off of a Labor woman politician for her (alleged) sex life.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 1:42 pm
SFB sez: gillard is a virgin.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 1:44 pm
I have noted at my blog that if he moved into State politics, Rudd would likely be the fastest way Labor could regain power in Queensland. Surely most of the public servants who despised working for him under Goss have gone by now?
I suggest he be satisfied with Premiership and make a move in that direction.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 1:46 pm
I respect your choices, CL. But what will happen when you tell her the sex will only work if she wears a gag?
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 1:47 pm
Quite. Because we all know SfB NEVER indulged himself in commenting about those scurrilous Abbott/Credlin rumours, afterall…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 1:51 pm
What, is “Shagger” Thomson another Labor woman?
I also seem to recall a fair amount of mirth and innuendo regarding the sex life and peccadilloes of the matriarch of modern Labor, Bob Hawke.
The wrongologist strikes again. Fuckwit.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 1:54 pm
I think the best chance for a Labor win is for enough people to start daily devotions to Gaia to strike down the Coalition.
Failing mere prayers, the modern equivalent of a thugee cult could be useful.
Sinclair looks (just a bit) like the lead priest who could remove hearts in Temple of Doom, but I don’t think he’s available for the position.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 1:56 pm
The pervert actually brought that garbage to the Cat himself. Dogshit never encountered a problem that couldn’t be solved through lack of principles.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 1:59 pm
See Steve, that’s your problem right there- you don’t.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 1:59 pm
I didn’t say much at all about the Abbott/Credlin matter, as it happens. There was a protracted argument with dd who had it completely arse about as to why the media did not want to repeat the joke, but that was all.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 2:01 pm
Oh so it’s ok to call women bitchy now is it?
How rapidly the misogyny rules change.
twostix
22 Mar 13 at 2:02 pm
No, I made it clear at the time of the Abbott/Credlin stuff that my observation of a rumour about Abbott a couple of years ago had not been about that.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 2:03 pm
The Smearer from Brisbane at it again
Rousie
22 Mar 13 at 2:05 pm
Like a degenerate Siri he gives the same answers no matter what.
You’re not blogging from a cell are you?
Rousie
22 Mar 13 at 2:06 pm
No-one can say Dogshit QC didn’t thoroughly deserve his reputation as a liar. Like the rest of the rabid left, he lies his head of even when he believes what he’s saying is at worst a tortured version of the truth.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 2:06 pm
Clearly not, Candy. But she has an ugly nose for votes. The pundits are against her so she’s given them away in favour of ‘the people’. Most of whom are against her too.
She has nothing else left, nowhere else to go.
No gravitas, no dignity, only the gender card to play.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 2:08 pm
SfB,
His other masturbatory organ.
H B Bear
22 Mar 13 at 2:10 pm
steve from brisbane 22 Mar 13 at 12:17 pm
Your threatening comments have been noted and appropriate authorities should be on their way to visit you.
NoFixedAddress
22 Mar 13 at 2:10 pm
Yes, NoFixed, I am a very dangerous man with the powers of ruthless Labor operatives at my beck and call.
Either that or I’m a pale, feminised weakling of a male scared by strong masculine men like Abbott.
I wish this blog would make up its mind.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 2:16 pm
Does this remind you of anyone in politics?
Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/[1][2] is a personality disorder that has been variously characterized by shallow emotions (including reduced fear, a lack of empathy, and stress tolerance), coldheartedness, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, impulsivity, criminality, antisocial behavior, a lack of remorse, and a parasitic lifestyle. However, there is no consensus about the symptom criteria and there are ongoing debates regarding issues such as essential features, causes, and the possibility of treatment
Psychopathy Checklist-Revised: Factors, Facets, and Items.
Facet 1: Interpersonal
Glibness/superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning/manipulative
Facet 2: Affective
Lack of remorse or guilt
Emotionally shallow
Callous/lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Facet 3: Lifestyle
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Parasitic lifestyle
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Impulsiveness
Irresponsibility
Facet 4: Antisocial
Poor behavioral controls
Early behavioral problems
Juvenile delinquency
Revocation of conditional release
Criminal versatility.
Many short-term marital relationships
Promiscuous sexual behavior
There are many different characteristics associated with psychopathy. On one hand, they include having virtually no conscience, no impulse control, no guilt, no empathy and no remorse. On the other hand psychopaths are quite fearlesss (both mentally and physically), can focus really well, are strong-minded, and are superficially charming. As a result, they are very persuasive and are very skilled at manipulation of others. For example, psychopaths have “a great proficiency in persuading parole boards to release them into the community”.
They are also very egocentric, very dishonest, as well as being both callous and ruthless, and virtually immune to anxiety. They are very happy to indulge in risk-taking behaviour, and tend to have a grandiose sense of self-worth.
Bondi Tram
22 Mar 13 at 2:18 pm
Rudd OR Gillard, it’s still clutching at straws.
The Julia Gillard choice is no longer even a choice for the genuine Labor Party- but for the AWU Team.
Julia Gillard is merely a remoulded Kristina Keneally facade backed by a $½ Billion propaganda machine, a machine that can refashion the “new Julia” shell for each Parliamentary sitting, and can rely on an army of media shills to keep the credulous cooing.
Leo G
22 Mar 13 at 2:19 pm
Dogshit has now succeeded in making the entire thread about him — the troll’s triumph.
Next comes the creeping out of the females.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 2:20 pm
Bondi, that’s a very accurate description of both her and the vermin hanging around here.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 2:23 pm
I hereby report my response from 1.21pm here:
Once again SfB proves that not only is a demonstarted bald-faceed liar, but that he is a world-class fuckwit at the same time.
Fuck off SfB, you despicible, lying, oxygen-wasting piece of filth.
Why Sinc tolerates your lying arse here is beyond me. I can only hope that one day karma catches up with you and smashes you flat, like a cane-toad encountering a semi on the Gold Coast Highway….
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 2:28 pm
Apparently Mar’n Fer’son has called a presser.
TLS is going to have no grown ups left to talk to.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 2:36 pm
Yes: 18%
No: 82%
FMD. Who are the 18%?
Just keep watching the (huge) debt number at aofm.gov.au. The next six months are going to cost us a bomb.
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 9:51 am
I confess to voting for Julia in that poll. I encourage you all to do so. Hehehehehehehee
Entropy
22 Mar 13 at 2:38 pm
I doubt whether the gender card is enough to get her over the line. I have friends who are rabidly Labor who look at her performance with embarrassment; they’ve given up even the feeblest defence i.e “they’re all as bad as each other.”
I agree with your earlier comment that the LNP should not ignore any segment of the population including the Mummy bloggers.
However her attraction mystifies me. It can’t be just an expression of gender politics – Thatcher, Meir and Gandhi (among others) broke through that ceiling a long time ago. It can’t be her public persona because at times she is nakedly vicious in press conferences and the like. And it can’t be character unless people are drawn to glib shallow spiteful graceless individuals.
In any case, I doubt whether the next election will be decided on issues such as character. The present Government is manifestly bad. Unlike the recent US election, there will be no excuses. Obama can claim he’s picking up the pieces left by Bush and by the way, I’m black, did you notice?
In contrast, all of our present economic and political problems rest squarely on Labor. Stuff like endemic corruption is just the diseased fly on this turd of a government.
Lloyd
22 Mar 13 at 2:40 pm
It’s amazing how many people swallow all this rubbish. There was no coup. There was no challenge. I contend Rudd was offerred a deal in 2010 that would require him to resign but on the understanding if Gillard didn’t work out, he would come back. This is the ALP we are talking about. Caucus is a union boss kowtowing joke. It’s controlled by the union money men in toto. After the Feb 2012 challenge brought on by appalling poll numbers for JG, the vicious anti-Rudd reaction after the event, clearly engineered, dot pointed and then media phrased for the various Ministers by John McTernan, expectations were that Gillard would soar. She didn’t and now they are so scared that yesterday was a time buy on McTernan’s instructions. He told Gillard to give only a couple of hours notice and told her what to say before the caucus meeting in the parliament building, and after the non-challenge which was simply more McTernan spin designed to pump up the win-through tough-as-nails Julia. Rudd told the truth. He is clearly waiting until the shortest possible legally required election hiatus starts. She will resign on that day and not contest her seat and sail off into the sunset with all the perks for life of an ex PM. McTernan will immediately return to the UK to run the Conservative party campaign for Scottish independence next year. Rudd will then have four weeks of “Give Kevin another Go” honeymoon during which he will ridicule Abbott every day with the backup of an endless parade of Labor/union sponsored female liars coming out of the woodwork telling stories about how Abbott tried to rape a couple of them at Oxford uni in the UK, punched holes through walls in Sydney on numerous occasions, had his child by another secret partner killed et al. That has always been McTernan’s strategy and it might just work and he won’t even be here to answer for it. Just you wait and see.
davey street
22 Mar 13 at 2:43 pm
Sorry if someone has already mentioned this but…
Given that they stuff everything that they touch, do you think this was a set up where the commenatriat (Sabra Lane has already started it) can say – Oh, but look, she is very tough. Could be the follow up to the feisty comment?
Dianne
22 Mar 13 at 2:44 pm
AHEM – way ahead of you, Steve. See 12.42pm.
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 2:45 pm
I love women. I have admired them from afar and up close for over 3 decades. My mother is a woman.
Gillard is not a woman. She’s a snake in a woman suit.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 2:52 pm
For SFB have a look at s 83A of the Victorian crimes act
Morsie
22 Mar 13 at 2:52 pm
A case of crypto-amnesia, Philippa.
BTW, is Pope Francis showing enough signs of liturgical, um, carelessness to have you freaking out yet?
Giant puppets in St Peters is what I’m hanging out for…
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 2:54 pm
Ah, perhaps David Icke is right then.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 2:54 pm
I dealt with this last week Morsie: no one was prejudiced by relying on the document. The seller got the sale he wanted, the lender got his money back (I assume on the sale), Blewitt agreed to buy it in his name and signed the POA.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 2:58 pm
mar’n gawn to whack bench
codger
22 Mar 13 at 2:58 pm
Mar’n has fallen on his sword. Only kiddies left now.
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 2:59 pm
They’d be the respondents who think the Rudd supporters who would not vote Labor unless Rudd was leader and who will now endorse Julia Gillard exceeds those who will not endorse Labor now that Rudd more clearly is out of contention.
Leo G
22 Mar 13 at 3:02 pm
First you link to the NT News, then this. I need to ask, are you feeling OK Gab?
Token
22 Mar 13 at 3:05 pm
Freaky Friday, Tokes.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 3:09 pm
I must admit the combination of SoB’s avatar and the crap he writes sometimes make me think David Icke was onto something.
Token
22 Mar 13 at 3:12 pm
Has someone already suggested the Australian Kevin Party, who those in Labor who are so keen to work for a narcissistic twerp?
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 3:12 pm
…for those in Labor, etc
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 3:13 pm
For the last time imbecile, it is not a “no harm” law.
The law is there to preclude exactly this situation. A lawyer is meant to be an officer of the court, and when an officer of the court makes a misrepresentation to the court, the full weight of the law should fall upon them.
If an officer of the court can’t be relied on to be truthful in their submissions, they are a person of poor character, and as such will have their right to practice law removed. Such a person has no place in public life.
The end.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 3:16 pm
Kim Carr is next on the chopping block.
Andrew
22 Mar 13 at 3:18 pm
Chunklewart: I said the matter would be one dealt with as unprofessional conduct by the relevant disciplinary body in Victoria. I gave a link last week to cases of solicitors who had been reprimanded and/or fined for witnessing things they didn’t see signed.
That is where this belonged, if anyone had bothered making a complaint while she was still a solicitor. Why didn’t they? Oh that’s right – because no one suffered any harm.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 3:19 pm
(And I am assuming for the sake of the argument that she did fail to witness his signature. Blewitt is such a crap witness no one should believe him without compelling collaborating evidence.)
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 3:21 pm
All that training in the socialist forum on how to implement a pogrom against your political foes came in handy.
When will the show trials begin?
Token
22 Mar 13 at 3:23 pm
SFB don’t you need op update your mommy blog?
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 3:23 pm
The rabid, illiterate European left can’t imagine how an ignorant Emily’s List Fabian could possible destroy an economy with a hostile regime of high taxes, environmental vetoes and an IR system run by the unions: Australians don’t know how lucky they are.
No byline, but probably written by one of the ShakeMyHead.com escapees as it has been censored. To wit, the addendum:
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 3:26 pm
Kim Il Carr next to walk the plank …
The night of the long knives continues.
This is responsible and stable government?
Matt
22 Mar 13 at 3:29 pm
Yup – Pickering had this up about a month ago:
“Looking for loyalty in a time of need”
Very prescient…
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 3:31 pm
What say you Mk50? Much more to come in this farce, hey? Rudd probably can’t stop laughing.
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 3:33 pm
Hey, Dogshit. You’ve been offered a free return trip to London to do a training course. Finally you can get off welfare. How exciting!
Tom
22 Mar 13 at 3:35 pm
I support her nomination if she promises to always wear that black short
Mini and the high heels.
As a quasi celeb, has she done a sex tape yet, because if she has she would be PM in a ny minute.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 3:39 pm
I reckon Cassidy and his coterie of laughing leftie jackasses on ABC, Sunday , will have a hard time sheeting the blame for this week’s fiasco in the Labor Pardeee to Tony Abbott!
Jazza
22 Mar 13 at 3:39 pm
Ferguson’s attack was stinging.
Andrew
22 Mar 13 at 3:40 pm
Piss off stepford . No one wants you here. Get lost.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 3:41 pm
Not at all, Jazza.
‘This is turning into a disaster for Abbott’ will be the theme.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 3:41 pm
Err, thanks JC.
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 3:41 pm
Kevin Rudd holding a press conference at 4:15
Andrew
22 Mar 13 at 3:42 pm
Carr saying numbers were very close for Rudd.
Andrew
22 Mar 13 at 3:49 pm
Token
22 Mar 13 at 3:50 pm
Isn’t, whoops wasn’t, Wayne Swan the actual target of Crean’s move?
Louis Hissink
22 Mar 13 at 3:54 pm
I reckon he’s going to resign, force a by-election, and ratf*@k TLS.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 3:54 pm
He’s resigning?
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 3:55 pm
She’ll refuse to allow one, just as she will when shagger and the musselman resign…
Rabz
22 Mar 13 at 3:56 pm
I think these resignations from Chris Bowen etc are to indicate they’re not happy and to set the scene, and one of them will challenge in May/June when they’re back. Otherwise it’s some kind of insanity spreading through the Labor party.
candy
22 Mar 13 at 3:56 pm
LOL, Carr believes a trade union royal commission is wrong.
Andrew
22 Mar 13 at 3:56 pm
I reckon he’s going to resign, and form a new party, and ratf*@k the ALP for ever!!!
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 3:59 pm
What reason for McClelland not to resign now?
Rousie
22 Mar 13 at 4:00 pm
This far off the election, Rabz? Can she get away with that?
Kevni may just be completely fed up and resign. Here’s hoping. A lot of Labor people would see him as some sort of saviour if he brought it to an end now before she and the rabble left make it any worse.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 4:00 pm
Or Slipper for that matter…
Rousie
22 Mar 13 at 4:02 pm
Oh Steve. You ARE a prankster, to be sure.
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 4:05 pm
Anne at 10:09 AM
The Reptillians are taking over Anne, I’m waiting for the great war between the Reptillians and the Zombies.
old bloke
22 Mar 13 at 4:05 pm
Is
Kevin Rudd @_KRuddMP
with an underscore before ‘KRuddMP’ the real deal or a pisstake account ?
Myrrdin Seren
22 Mar 13 at 4:06 pm
Fake account. Try @KRuddMP without the underscore.
Matt
22 Mar 13 at 4:06 pm
Rudd was a terrible PM, but by God, ratfuckers don’t come any better.
He’s Australia’s most magnificent revenge merchant and for that I salute him.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 4:08 pm
Can u just imagine if she tried to hold off a bi-election?
They’d be trading the Tarago in for a Segway.
Rousie
22 Mar 13 at 4:09 pm
Token
22 Mar 13 at 4:10 pm
OK, how about some liturgical dance in St Peter’s, Philippa? “Dance, then, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the dance said he…etc”
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 4:11 pm
Gab, you missed the call for Abbott to be investigated for his part in the Labor leadership debacle…
Winston Smith
22 Mar 13 at 4:13 pm
Watto, fresh from picking up his dummy out of the dirt, is now the Captain of the Australian cricket team.
Has there ever been a better time to be surrounded by mediocrity?
H B Bear
22 Mar 13 at 4:14 pm
Rudd presser for 4:15…
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 4:14 pm
On the money as usual Tom. What comes next?
Rousie
22 Mar 13 at 4:15 pm
Tom (@3.26pm)
It was written by former Fauxfacsian Paola Toturo, as reported by me in the Open Forum here.
It also included the howler
when referring to the last five years under Rudd/Gillard as PM (with Swannie playing a supporting role as “World’s Greatest Treasurer”)..
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 4:15 pm
I’d like to see the ALP’s transport options reduced to a pogo stick and bike with no seat.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 4:15 pm
They’re completely distancing themselves from Ms Gillard, hoping she’ll take the hint.
candy
22 Mar 13 at 4:16 pm
Hark at the child! [indulgent smile] :>)
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 4:16 pm
Rudd on live now:
http://bigpondvideo.com/newstv/
Token
22 Mar 13 at 4:16 pm
God, Rudd’s a tedious wanker!
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:18 pm
Rudd: The notion of a draft was not in reality there.
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 4:20 pm
Rudd still pontificating, FFS get to the point!
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:20 pm
KRudd, 21 March 2013:
I won’t be challenging because, unlike some, I believe in keeping my word [not to challenge].
KRudd, 22 March 2013
I didn’t challenge because I had absolutely zero chance of winning.
Australian Liars Party…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 4:20 pm
Martin Ferguson world’s best minister.
Kim Carr too. They’re all brilliant!
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:21 pm
FFS Kevni.
Either announce your decision to force a bi-election or bugger off.
lotocoti
22 Mar 13 at 4:22 pm
Ooowaaaah, Rudd said “after the global financial crisis”. gillard won’t like that.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 4:22 pm
The supremely slimy Bob Carr has now declared his support for TLS and undying love for his position of Foreign Minister.He has decided that The Slapper is “now a more seasoned politician” and has “renewed and reaffirmed her leadership” and suck,suck,suck etc.etc.Julie Bishop has suggested that sacking the traitorous Carr would be a fair test of this alleged “leadership”.
Lew
22 Mar 13 at 4:22 pm
Cue Benny Hill theme music,again
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 4:22 pm
Listening to Rudd reminds us all why he got sacked as PM.
Ben Fordham compares this speech to Rob Oakeshott.
Token
22 Mar 13 at 4:22 pm
I’ll go with that C.L.
It infuriates me that Grandma Summers and the other stupid cows in the media describe the bitch as “tough”, “cool under pressure”, “a skilled negosheatorette” and all the other drivel which she patently is not.
She’s an utterly unscrupulous bitch of a woman without morality. It’s easy to do what she does because lying and faking sincerity are merely useful tools to get her way. Think about some of the most savage, vindictive women you’ve encountered in business or personal life – she’s worse by a country mile.
It also helps that the Labor chiefs have categorised her as a protected species … for the moment.
She’s about as tough as a wet tissue. She’s using old fashioned bullying, transparent deceit and hiding behind being female when convenient yet no-one has called her to account.
If she were put under any pressure at all by a fearless and capable political commentator on television she’d walk out. If she was fronting Peter Costello in Parliament he would have executed her a dozen times over. If an old head in the Pardy strode in and announced his faction was dumping their support for her she’d dead set ship her pants. Her enormous pants.
None of these things have happened, she’s never been put under any pressure. The media stands condemned for that – yet you’ll read from the gutless busteds all manner of dreadful about her when she’s gone (just as they revealed what they had been hiding about Rudd for years).
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 4:24 pm
This good burgher of Griffith will be tipping dog turds over your fence if I hear you utter good burgher once more.
lotocoti
22 Mar 13 at 4:24 pm
So just a fart in a bottle then.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:25 pm
Roll on Sep 14!
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:26 pm
Rudd really is a boring little tit
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 4:27 pm
Rudd is an amazing spin doctor.
Andrew
22 Mar 13 at 4:27 pm
Gillard’s preparing the way for a final reign of terror.
The entirety of last month was but a taste of what’s to come.
The old guard want nothing to do with it.
Crean and the old schoolers made an impotent attempt to stop them and were defeated.
Prepare yourselves for a Gillard lead kamikazi attack against the old Australia. Be heartened though that with the remnants of the ALP in the “daleks” hands we could have another 20 year LNP reign ahead of us.
twostix
22 Mar 13 at 4:27 pm
Can’t stand to watch Eddystone , you are so right. That’s why I’m here for the pre-digested, bile added succinct condensed version- the ambergris- worth US$25.oo per gram. Its a wonder Sinclair doesn’t monetise the Cat.
MT Isa Miner
22 Mar 13 at 4:28 pm
That doesn’t thrill me either.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:29 pm
Shane Watson has about as much credibility as the Slapper, H B Bear. Australian Cricket Captain has today plumbed the depths of sub-mediocrity alright.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 4:29 pm
So much syrupy crap from the Kruddster. Oh the terrible threat of an Abbot government- he doesn’t have the temperament or the policies to govern. I can’t pick what is worse- the vuvuzella or the silver fake.
Biota
22 Mar 13 at 4:29 pm
No way he’s going to resign, he’s got too many trips already booked to Asia due to his extensive backbencher portfolio.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 4:29 pm
Make a pitcher of margaritas Mt Isa,it eases the pain
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 4:30 pm
Turned Rudd off to go back to the Test match coverage from Delhi in India.
Australia 2/71 (Hughes 45 not out)after 21 overs.
Still plenty of time for a complete collapse….
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 4:30 pm
Token
22 Mar 13 at 4:31 pm
Sorry, it was Hughes that was the second wicket… got over-excitied at him making more than a handful of runs for once….
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 4:31 pm
I can’t stand listening to or watching either Rudd or Gillard, but I had convinced myself he was going to do something interesting.
Now I’m going to put some Bach on to remove the nauseating sound of his smarmy little voice.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:32 pm
Token:
Australian Liars Party.
Quid Est Demonstratum.
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 4:33 pm
Tal, I love you. Almost ANY occasion relating to this government is the right one for Benny Hill music. This time, it can accompany the various resignations …
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 4:34 pm
I can’t help feeling that the whole Rudd presser was so he could repeat multiple times the fact that he keeps his word (never mind the dubious truth of that) and the delightful story about how he “consulted” his senior advisors.
Basically, “I’m honest, I’ve changed, and I’m still waiting for the call”.
mct
22 Mar 13 at 4:37 pm
See, he’s almost convinced you lot that Gillard is the better choice (between him and her)
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 4:37 pm
Drugblogging the Krudd press conference:
Token
22 Mar 13 at 4:38 pm
That attributes a human attribute to The Kevni, Lizzie.
Nothing he says is what it appears to be, he’s as deceitful as Comrade the Dissolute Slapper, and megalomaniacal with it. I doubt anyone can analyse his tactics and strategies given the thoroughly distorted reality in which he resides.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 4:38 pm
Nice to hear that Hughes got a bit of practice for the 20/20 series at the end of the series
_________________
Ben Fordham discussing what is meant by a Good Burgers, predictably they are locked on the beetroot / pineapple question.
Token
22 Mar 13 at 4:41 pm
Reliably good advice, Margaritas with a crust of salt and sneer and as it’s Friday afternoon and NOT my turn at the music it’s Greenday- a kinda punk revisition.
MT Isa Miner
22 Mar 13 at 4:42 pm
I take from that that kevni is staying on because he has no other job prospects at all.
candy
22 Mar 13 at 4:43 pm
Lot of work starting now for establishing a platform to allow Labor to rebuild after the election. All the old hands distancing themselves from this administration so that there is a basis from which to rebuild.
DriftForge
22 Mar 13 at 4:45 pm
A good burger should have both..
DriftForge
22 Mar 13 at 4:47 pm
Well he could always do a ‘Matho’ and live of his wife’s money if he wants. However he either craves relevance or revenge. Or both.
I suspect it’s revenge. While he’s still there he can make TLS squirm. Then he can (help) destroy her utterly during the election.
Then he will resign.
jupes
22 Mar 13 at 4:49 pm
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 4:54 pm
+1 eddystone.
mct
22 Mar 13 at 4:55 pm
The real question apropos burg(h)ers:
BBQ or Tomato Sauce?
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 4:58 pm
It’s very rare you get a good burger in Australia. Most are made with floor sweepings and over cooked. Hence the need to disguise the flavour with fruit.
The same with Australian “Barbeque”. Grilling a sausage or piece of topside is not proper barbequing.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 5:04 pm
I think so.
Gillard really is on the self-destruct path now. She is locked in and can’t back out. But at what cost – this pathological win at all costs or die trying strategy will take a lot of people with her… and incur addtional damage to the nation. Has she got a bunker for the final days?
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 5:05 pm
A good burger.
Toasted bun.
Well done rissole (beef).
Bacon.
Egg.
Cheese.
Fried onion.
Tomato sauce.
A little bit of lettuce, if you must.
Tomato slice.
Salt.
Butter.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 5:07 pm
The fine dining room at the Rooty Hill RSL with the Mummybloggers for Company
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 5:08 pm
Probably is an old WW2 air raid shelter at Kirribill Arnie. Tim to administer the cyanide tabs?
Bill
22 Mar 13 at 5:08 pm
BBQ sauce always
Plus bacon and an egg
Derp
22 Mar 13 at 5:08 pm
plus Gherkin relish – yum
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 5:09 pm
GAG!
What are you, a Pom?
Once you try medium rare Beef&Pork, you’ll be hard pressed going back to overdone hockey pucks.
Derp
22 Mar 13 at 5:11 pm
Heh. But.. then you miss out on the pineapple leaking juice, picking up that beetroot stain and spreading it everywhere!
DriftForge
22 Mar 13 at 5:14 pm
How is it possible to overcook a burger? Takes a long time before there is no meat left inside the charcoal…
DriftForge
22 Mar 13 at 5:16 pm
Hear, hear IT.
Very happy was I when an American-style BBQ place opened in South Caulfield about 18 months ago (or so).
Hot smoked with a spicy dry rub; long low, slow cooked while slathered in BBQ sauce – the most ‘fall-off-the-bone, melt-in-your-mouth’ ribs I’ve had since my visit to the US in ’05…
And then there’s their delicious pulled beef brisket; spicy onion rings, and twice-cooked french fries…
…. now I’ve made myself hungry….
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 5:18 pm
What are you, some kind of pretentious foodie?
Plus, anything but well cooked mince is an invitation to gastro!
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 5:19 pm
So when is Albo going to front up and do the honourable thing?
Lazlo
22 Mar 13 at 5:19 pm
Anyone know what political stance our defense minister had while a yoof? Indeed it will be interesting to learn what all of Gillard’s new cabinet etc were politically during their brainwashing years.
Louis Hissink
22 Mar 13 at 5:19 pm
I can see why Australia has gone down the tubes, all this foreign muck being eaten.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 5:21 pm
So.. assuming the obvious happens and Labor is left a 30-50 person rump, what does the shadow ministry look like? Are the old hands going to be in control or the current mob?
DriftForge
22 Mar 13 at 5:22 pm
Derp, I agree about overcooked meat, in fact I love a good steak tartare, however there is no way on earth that I would eat pork underdone.
Beef and pork combined is fantastic for a bolognese sauce, but for my money, the best burger is made from the best quality piece of steak that you can find (rib eye/scotch fillet) with a really good fat content. Mince it at home with a little salt and pepper and cook over charcoal to a touch under med/rare.
A toasted bun is vital, as are onions. The cheese needs to be placed on the meat while it is being finished off so that it is well on its way to being melted before it is placed in the bun.
Finally, a good homemade relish or BBQ sauce to finish it and that is all that is required. Let the quality of the meat speak for itself.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 5:22 pm
Can someone who has been watching pressers this afternoon: are the Rudd loyalists going because they want to (a bad look as it looks like they have no confidence in Gillard) or because they have been handed a sword by the PM (a bad look because she cannot forgive, even when at the cost of reshuffling so many this close to an election and wanting to project stability?)
I thought Rudd might have made a plea for his loyalists to stay where they are, for the sake of stability, and on the basis that they can absolutely give up on any hope of his ever being drafted.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 5:24 pm
Brings back memories of my grandfather who when presented with a plate of spaghetti and tomato sauce by my grandmother stated “I’m not eating that Dago muck.” He died not long after.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 5:25 pm
Mick Gold Coast @ 4.38pm
RTWT
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 5:25 pm
If you want to see what real burgers look like I suggest watching Man vs. Food. Pound for pound it’s the best show on TV.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 5:27 pm
FMD.
I’m in computercado for a couple of hours and I come back to see another two ministers have bolted from the Rodent.
Everyone hates Gillard.
C.L.
22 Mar 13 at 5:31 pm
Man vs Food is good yes, although there was another show recently (its name escapes me) that spent a goodly amount of time criss-crossing the US looking at various fast foods; BBQ, burgers, hot dogs, subs & hoagies, even the good ol’ Philly Cheesesteak…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 5:32 pm
SfB
The “resignations” are the result of Piggy telling TLS that they were going to the back-bench to make way for union hacks.
Crean won’t be back anyway, but the others were told that their pre-selections would be withdrawn if he didn’t go to the back-bench NOW and shut up for six months.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 5:33 pm
Burgers.
An honourable and important discussion this, carried out with great thought and earnestly. There’s been no awful awfulness upon each other either.
Now, about that poof from Caulfield with his
That’s not a burger! And what’s with the chips cooked twice? They’d be as hard as that bloody Pommie up the page a bit with his overcooked hockey pucks.
“pulled beef brisket” – I can just hear it … “Oh kind hamburger artisan, is your beef brisket mildly stressed or dragged out within an inch of it’s breaking strain?”
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 5:34 pm
I think that was Best Food Ever narrated by John Goodman.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 5:34 pm
If it all goes well, this is what is left. (10% even swing, 31 members)
Nick Champion
Mark Dreyfus
Julie Collins
Jenny Macklin
Catherine King
Tony Zappia
Stephen Jones
Jason Clare
Dick Adams
Ed Husic
Joel Fitzgibbon
Sharon Grierson
Greg Combet
Jill Hall
Sharon Bird
Richard Marles
Simon Crean
Antony Byrne
Andrew Leigh
Amanda Rishworth
Tanya Plibersek
Bill Shorten
Maria Vamvakinou
Harry Jenkins
Anthony Albanese
Mark Butler
Julia Gillard
Kelvin Thompson
Brendan O’Connor
Nicola Roxon
Martin Ferguson
DriftForge
22 Mar 13 at 5:34 pm
Count your blessing CL you missed Rudd’s baltheskiting press conference where he robbed Australians of another 10 minutes of time they’ll never get back.
He’s completely unhinged.
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 5:36 pm
definitely not in the contest she said she’s bowing out this election
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 5:39 pm
Shorten and company are very short on the verbal department methinks. Ludwig must have been even busier loading up the knee-capping ordance if the caucus bruvverettes don’t behave.
Louis Hissink
22 Mar 13 at 5:41 pm
Probably of starvation, poor bugger.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 5:41 pm
Well said Mick!
I worry about some of the young blokes at work. Their main interests seem to be cooking and body building.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 5:44 pm
Brian of Moorabbin @ 5.18pm
Next time you visit San Francisco, spend a day wine tasting in the Napa Valley and have lunch at the Trancas Steakhouse in Napa. They serve the most tender, delicious, perfectly grilled, melt-in-your-mouth rib-eye steaks that we have ever tasted.
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 5:45 pm
Nah, my Nan probably poisoned him for insubordination.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 5:45 pm
That’s probably what will happen to me, once the earning capacity expires.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 5:47 pm
Yeah, great.
I’ll start:
Plibersek NO
Shorten NO
( Roxon is gone)
Combet NO
They are known to be dangerous ideological loons and we want them gone.
The other names I am holdign fire on because I have no information.
Ferguson is apparently ok from reading business pages.
Macklin some “women”say could be saved but I can’t see it myself.
Ya’ll should make the cull list now.
MT Isa Miner
22 Mar 13 at 5:48 pm
Hucklebery, you are talking real sense now. I wish I had the charcoal, but I have to make do with the frying pan or skillet. Onions. Oh yes indeed. Onions.
And on a Friday in Lent, too. I shall be in trouble.
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 5:49 pm
Morton’s Steakhouse for me.
http://www.mortons.com/experience/steaks/
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 5:49 pm
PS I had a taste of some lovely steak at The Rockpool here in Perth some months ago; it was more like pate than steak. It parted like the Red Sea before what was fundamentally a fancy butter knife.
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 5:51 pm
PPS Thank you to my darling brother Tony who paid for the Rockpool dinner (sort of) and has been stalking me on catallaxy and reproving me for not keeping my Lenten promise to give up blogging.
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 5:52 pm
What a bunch of foodies!
We started out talking about good old Aussie burgers, now we’re onto fine dining.
Fair trade double soy latte decaf, anyone?
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 5:54 pm
Mick (@5.34pm)
Actually the discussion re the beef brisket, onion rings anf french fries was me replying to IT in relation to American-style BBQ (hence also the talk obout ribs)… we had moved on from the burger discussion at that point.
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 5:56 pm
Septimus, I’ll try to keep that in mind (sadly any visit to the US in the next few years is unlikely… maybe for my retirement..)
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 5:57 pm
Philippa you’ll just have to forgo something else for Lent. I gave up swearing at Julia Gillard. I’m not going so good but I start each day with nunc coepi only a few days to go I’ve managed 1:6 not good but I’ll go to Confession on Holy Thursday night
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 6:00 pm
“And what’s with the chips cooked twice?”
Heston cooks them thrice.
Jarrah
22 Mar 13 at 6:00 pm
No I don’t think so IT, the presenter was a female… Certainly not John Goodman (unless he’s lost about 300 pounds and changed sex)…
Going to go search the web and see if I can find it..
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:01 pm
twice-cooked chips are apparently crunchier on the outside (and fluffier in the middle) than regular chips…
twoce-cooked french fries, yes crunchier.. hard to tell if the inside was fluffier when the chips are as thin as dental floss though…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:03 pm
Heston is not for the faint-hearted. Give me Jamie any day — his Moroccan-style lamb burgers are scrumptious, messy but mmmm mmm
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 6:04 pm
Fitzgibbon is supposed to be dumb and the ALP probably have evidence of the bribes paid by the Chinese woman Lui so NO to him too especially no why should he get the 26% salary loading for being a whip (thanks Dan) when he is so obviouly INCOMPETENT.
MT Isa Miner
22 Mar 13 at 6:05 pm
Did a quick YouTube scan IT, and found a few clips of Goodman’s show. I’ve seen it before, but I can definately say it wasn’t the one I saw recently on Foxtel.
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:06 pm
Brian, when you go, the tours of the Sterling Vineyards and the Robert Mondavi Winery are well worth doing.
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 6:07 pm
Jarrah: I’ve decided Heston is a bit of a wanker, with his “use a thermometer to tell when a steak is cooked” method. Or his “the precise time for a poached egg is 3.35 min at 85 degree” falderal.
You shouldn’t have referred us to his Youtubes.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:08 pm
Driftforge, its no use. You wrote the list for them but No focus.These urban gorilla’s are no good. Get me so country stock that eat on the run ( I had high hopes from the rum conversation earlier) and work up a good ulcer or two while the throat slashing goes on.
MT Isa Miner
22 Mar 13 at 6:10 pm
Philippa: now that we have a South American Pope, you can always indulge in capybara on Fridays in Lent.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:10 pm
For the serious foodie, or what to do if your garden is being over run and you just can’t abide the thought of using Gaia destroying chemicals.
Snail porridge.
Eddystone
22 Mar 13 at 6:12 pm
(Even Good Friday, I believe.)
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:12 pm
Stumbled on this one channel surfing last night
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/21023299696/Yotam-Ottolenghis-Mediterranean-Feasts-Israel
Couldn’t turn off once we saw the food they were cooking – yum yums
Myrrdin Seren
22 Mar 13 at 6:14 pm
Oowww. I am hungry. For a burger. With onion. And the works.
Fish for tonight in fridge lying there looking me bleakly in the eye.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 6:16 pm
Bull. In Perth perhaps. Not in the civilized east, which has the best burgers in the world.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:17 pm
Did someone just mention the rum? It is magically now gone six, and isn’t the sun over the yard arm or something? A little bit of Sailor Jerry might do me good.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 6:18 pm
Not in Australia so I get all my news online. Am moving house so wasn’t online yesterday. Just logged on and discovered this wonderful news! Labor imploding like a badly baked souffle. Imploding some more, that is. There is apparently a lot of ruin in the Gillard government, or she has no shame. Possibly both.
Excellent, excellent. Next up, the budget. More good news for Labor.
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 6:22 pm
Nice pick Myrrdin. Will have to watch it all a little later.
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:25 pm
Philippa Martyr
22 Mar 13 at 5:49 pm
When we visited our son in West Leederville in Aug/Sep last year, we were treated to a magnificent Sunday-night Roast Pork with great crackle at O’Brien’s Irish Pub in Cambridge Street.
Magnific!!
Mike of Marion
22 Mar 13 at 6:25 pm
Pfft. The only thing Melbourne does well is communism and grime.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 6:26 pm
No, OCO. I’ve been meditating all afternoon and Gaia appeared to me and told me to remind you all about the Phoenix. The glorious Phoenix ….
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:28 pm
And squirrels, IT. You forgot the squirrels…
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:29 pm
IT
That place has the best burgers and fries in the country. Trust me.
The only comparable would be a top NYC steakhouse which also do good burgers, but they simply aren’t in the standard of Andrews of Albert Park.
FFS, shut up as I know what I’m talking about, you left coast hick.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:30 pm
Stepford,
In all seriousness why the hell are you still here. Go away. Get lost.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:31 pm
Old Leatherface will be a treat to watch on Sunday morning and I’m sure monday evening’s QandA forum will be a hoot
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 6:32 pm
Andrew’s of Albert Park has won rave reviews from many, many top restaurant critics including Matt preston of ‘Masterchef’ fame..
..wait… that makes it sound worse than it really is..
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:32 pm
JC, I have information to confirm you are completely wrong about Annan and the significance of 2 degree sensitivity. Do you want it over on the open thread?
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:32 pm
And if Australia doesn’t do good burgers, who do you think does, IT. The US?
Americans generally have a beef patty that’s too thick and the buns generally aren’t great.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:33 pm
He’s still clinging to his gradual 1 point per month 2PP swing to Labor which will happen somehow. I’m sure it’ll start kicking in any day now…it better because they’re running out of months.
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 6:33 pm
No! fuck off. Go do some ironing.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:33 pm
I assume there will be a Newspoll on Tuesday? I assume it may set some kind of record.
All the more spectacular the Gillard comeback could be!
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:35 pm
Jesus Joe you’re in a bad mood.Bad trading day?
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 6:36 pm
Brian
Andrews has rave reviews because their burgers would be close to being the best in the world.
There’s a few things Greeks do well. They’re great at sponging off the government and they do great fish&chips and burgers. That’s about it.
Oh and Olives of course.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:36 pm
I’ve figured out why he’s spending so much time here now JC…
If you click on his name to go to his blog you get the following message:
So what was it that finally made you pull the pin Stevie? No-one reading your bullshit and you got lonely sitting there all by yourself?
Or did the wife finally pull the purse-strings tight and refuse to keep paying for upkeep?
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:36 pm
And here’s me thinking IT is in a foul mood today. JC is positively a Zen master by comparison.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 6:38 pm
Oh. I’ve just stuffed up the link again, that’s all Brian. Will be fixed in a jiffy…
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:38 pm
JC: they do Mediterranean islands well, too. And history. And ships. I think.
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 6:38 pm
Burger comprises …… bun, meat pattie, onion, tomato sauce, and maybe sliced jalapeño if you want to be a little bit fancy.
That’s it.
No fruit.
No vegetables.
Nothing.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 6:38 pm
You sound like the sort of guy who irons his jeans and wears leather loafers with no soclks or heavens above sheer stockings.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 6:38 pm
JC, agreed re. Andrew’s.
One of my favourite family outings on fine summer evenings is to take the little bloke up there to grab a burger and a box of chips, then go sit up in the carpark near Station pier and watch the Spirit of Tassie load up and leave.
(Little bloke loves throwing chips at the seagulls and screaming “Mine!” like the birds from ‘Finding Nemo’..)
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:39 pm
I always thought they were calling out for “Mike”.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 6:40 pm
Tal
Really tired today. Every freaking thing that could go wrong with that business I’m running went wrong today.
I’m convinced the human world is loaded with 95% stupid people and 4% average and 1% half way smart.
This idiot working there put a cleaning tool through a machine today and almost wrecked it. An important delivery came in wrong and my father was hanging around really irritating the shit out of the workers there. He seems to think that if one pays someone, he can call their name every 17 1/2 seconds. I had a big argument with him and he left in a huff.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:40 pm
Leigh, that sounds like a shit burger. A crap sausage sizzle job at best. I mean, no cheese?
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 6:41 pm
Jolly good. I can go back to ignoring it then…
(Honestly, I feel like I need a shower to wash off the stink from hitting that link already… even though it was broken..)
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:41 pm
I know that Brian – I was still at the burger counter though yarning with Eddystone.
Anyhow, youse blokes have moved on to silver service now. You’ll all be nodding agreeably about spatchcock and pheasant under glass next!
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 6:42 pm
Gab, no they’re all calling “Mine”..
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:43 pm
That used to be my local.
It is fair-to-middling but certainly nowhere near the rating the Age gives it every year.
The Fewfacts media burger review usually contains a couple of hipster newcomers who offer veggie burgers and organic free range cow-meat, and they always throw in Andrew’s as a traditional Greek owned burger shop.
These reviews are normally to demonstrate the street-cred of the reviewer rather than inform the reader.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 6:45 pm
Nah Gab,IT is pissed off because he can’t torch pollies,which s understandable
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 6:45 pm
Brian
That sounds like a wonderful evening. I wish I had a wife who wouldn’t mind tucking into a burger.
—————
(I love women that eat meat. It’s so primeval in a sexy sorta way. I used to love seeing sheilas in NYC steakhouses hoeing into a huge glob of meat. The better looking, the sexier she was with clawing into the the meat.)
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:45 pm
Jesus H Christ. How bad is this government when Simon Crean appears to be of the very few competents in the room?
Perhaps this is his time, however. Never before or again will his departure be lamented like it was today.
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 6:46 pm
No Mick, we’ve gone back to burgers again now.. Discussing how Andrew’s of Albert Park are the best (critically acclaimed!!) burgers in all of Australia…
I know you just turned 50 ol’ boy, but do try to keep up..
(I kid, I kid..)
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:46 pm
Cheese has NO place anywhere near a hamburger.
The end.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 6:46 pm
Fair to middling? Huh? Okay tell me one that’s better then.
There was a place in Hampton that actually had good burgers, but I forget the name although I know the look of the place. Perhaps Brian would be able to help out.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:47 pm
Jeez Leigh. You grew up in a family that couldn’t afford it or something?
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 6:47 pm
Yes it does. The right sorta cheese on the patty is great.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 6:48 pm
JC, maybe one night we’ll organise a Carnivores of the Cat for us Melbournites (if they can have Canberra Cat drinkies, then we can have burgers at sunset, surely?)
Of course, Lizzie, leigh, Gab, et al are welcome to join us for a little gastronomic therapy should the so desire..
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:48 pm
True. And the onions must be raw and there must be beetroot with the tomatoes and lettuce, tomato sauce and not that yucky BBQ sauce which tastes nothing like bbq meat anyway.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 6:50 pm
God NO Brian,can you imagine the fights?
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 6:50 pm
The cheeseburger vs the hamburger is Israel vs the Palestinians in the culinary world.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 6:52 pm
Mick – we have just enjoyed a delicious Friday night dinner cooked by the younger of our two daughters:
Roast boned leg of lamb with crispy baked potatoes, baked pumpkin, honey carrots and green beans.
Yumm
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 6:52 pm
You burger purists are far too lowbrow for my tastes. Seriously – no cheese?
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 6:53 pm
Righto, enough!
I refuse to argue about the contents of hamburgers any longer.
Forthwith the contents of every hamburger sold in this country will be determined by PIGA (*) and anyone not complying with the standard with have their BFL (*) revoked.
PIGA = Public Interest Greasies Advocate
BFL = Burger Flippers Licence
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 6:53 pm
Fascist.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 6:54 pm
And NO freakin’ pineapple on hamburgers! Nor on pizzas.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 6:55 pm
You call me fascist again and I’ll make you put the undies back on your head!
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 6:55 pm
JC, where exactly in Hampton? Hampton street?
There’s a good little fish’n'chipper down there (run by Chinese if memory serves… haven’t been there for a while [read: since the local police station moved from its temporary home next to Hampton station back down to the new Sandringham complex])…
A couple of others that are relatively local to me:
- Blue Sea on Ludstone Street (I think Greeks, maybe italians? new owners there in the last few months..)
– Lost at Sea near the corner of Bluff and South roads (Chinese, very friendly bunch)
– Hampton Fish and Chips on the corner of Bluff and Highett roads (Greek)..
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:56 pm
If Lizzie hadn’t consumed all the rum I’d whip up a pineapple rum butter concoction to have with coconut ice-cream.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 6:57 pm
Pineapple on burgers is heaven…
Pineapple on pizza is a sin that should be punished by having to Steve read his blog to you… for eternity…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 6:58 pm
Gab prefers raw over caramelised? Erk.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 6:58 pm
Paul Sheehan in the Sydney Compact News this week reflecting upon the past form of Komrade Konroy
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 6:59 pm
Tal, fights? Among we polite, courteous Catallaxians?
Surely you jest, sir….
Besides, we couldn’t behave any worse than the Canberra Cats after drinkies, could we?
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:00 pm
The list is just what is left after a 10% swing. No judgement other than the people of the areas that vote for each.
Mostly, yes, only people in the cities are that daft / bought off / indoctrinated.
Driftforge
22 Mar 13 at 7:00 pm
Yea. it’s in a row of shops where there’s 90 deg parking right in front. It’s a fish&shop too from memory. Haven’t been there in years as it’s a little far from where I live.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:02 pm
Raw onions are great (admittedly, an acquired taste).
I recall my early working years in a factory in Northcote and sitting down to lunch with several large Greek (and a few Italian) men who would open their lunch bags and proceed to munch on crunchy white onions like they were eating apples….
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:02 pm
Pineapple is a FRUIT.
You eat it for desert.
It has no place on a pizza or a hamburger or in anything served as a main course.
Jesus H Christ!
The next thing you’ll be saying that surf ‘n turf is a culinary delight.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 7:02 pm
For goodness sake, how many times are people going to repeat the “oh, he touched his dick and then didn’t wash his hands!!!” story about Conroy? I mean, I don’t like him either, but it’s actually possible his hands were not any grubbier after urinating than before.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 7:02 pm
Under the Fisk Doctrine that would be an immediate death penalty, Brian. You know that right?
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:03 pm
90 degree parking you say? Near the primary school?
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:03 pm
Yea. Anytime Brian.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:06 pm
Umm…I mean like two or three single rings not the whole damn onion.
Whatever happened to our own Masterchef who held a culinary masterclass couple of weeks ago here?
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 7:07 pm
Brian,Cat people will fight about anything, frocks,pizza(that fight has been going on for about 7years)instant coffee,keelhauling,lord I could go on but you get the picture
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 7:07 pm
Dunno if it’s near the school. It’s kinda off street parking if you know what I mean… Look, next time I’m down there I’ll check it out and let you know.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:07 pm
Steve,you are your own worst enemy:)
Tal
22 Mar 13 at 7:09 pm
Gillard just beamed away that yesterday showed that she was a pretty strong woman. Her bright chirp sounded pathetically weak.
Jules, sweetie, if you are a really strong woman, you never, absolutely never, have to say it like that. Let alone on television to the world.
A very strong woman indeed may say ‘the Lady is not for turning’. But that wouldn’t be you, would it? You spin like a twisted paper in the wind and your principles fly out of the window willy nilly as you ‘negoshiate’ you way into further disasters.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 7:10 pm
For goodness sake, how many times are people going to repeat the “oh, he touched his dick and then didn’t wash his hands!!!”
I’ve never been able to look at Conroy the same way after hearing that story.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:10 pm
Just saw Mar’n Ferguson (formerly of the Union Mooment) announcing his retirement as Minster.
Has anyone got a link to the English translation?
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 7:10 pm
No but for days now I’ve been trying to remember the name of that union hack – or is he a Labor pollie – that has a very strange voice, like someone is strangling him when he speaks. Anyone know his name?
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 7:13 pm
Look, if he had come out of a stall, yes, as with the Seinfeld episode, that would be truly remarkable. But after urinating – it’s not the best habit, but it’s not the most disgusting thing ever.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 7:13 pm
I notice since I’ve been busy the place isn’t as gentlemanly at a large number of fights break out… far too often.
Which reminds me..Did the cat score a visit from Keroboy today as I’m curious about the match & kerosene obsession the lunatic has got going and wondering if he’s finally done it. I’m sick of checking out the morgues if any kerosene smelling cadavers have been wheeled in. If he has I’m guessing it will be hard for them to stick one of those number tags on his big toe like they do.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:13 pm
I totally agree with this. I’d even go further and say that no fruit in savoury dishes is a pretty good rule of thumb. However, there are notable exceptions (ie SE Asian salads/dishes etc). Ham and melon. Grapes can work in salads and other non-dessert dishes. And there are more.
You can screen many of those exceptions out by refining the rule to no cooked fruit in savoury dishes. Still, there are exceptions, like sultanas in curry (just kidding! Anyone under 80 who’s still putting sultanas in curries should be deported to Yemen). Sliced coconut can go well in some Asian mains. Not sure if coconut milk should be considered a fruit. Let’s say no because I like cooking with coconut milk.
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 7:14 pm
See how it works Shitfer.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 7:14 pm
If it’s near the 90degree parking it’ll be on the opposite side to the primary scholl, probably about 60 or so yards up towards South road.. I have to admit I haven’t tried a burger from there, so can’t comment about their quality.
Missus reports she’s not had a burger there either (she’s lived in the area longer than I), but says they’ve been reported to be very good though
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:15 pm
JC, this the place?
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:17 pm
It certainly fits Mar’ns description.
His sentences sound like they have been assembled by air-crash investigators.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 7:17 pm
Tal, i know what you mean
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:18 pm
Mar’n F’rgs’n o’ly p’nunc’s som let’rs wh’n he’s tlk’n..
I have a (very firmly committed Nationals fan) friend who likes to say that he plays hangman when listening to Mar’n… trying to guess what letters he’s dropping from each word.
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:23 pm
Come off it Steve it’s basic personal hygene.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:28 pm
No, Leigh. Not Martin, someone else. Must be from a union. I think he’s shorter too than martin.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 7:30 pm
So, no tomato? Avocado?
I prefer hamburgers without pineapple, but am easy. Beetroot is good on burgers too. Pineapple is fine on pizza – though I can understand why some don’t like it – I generally avoid sweetness in savoury dishes.
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 7:31 pm
I would think it odd, but not be writing newspaper columns (again) about it 15 years later, sdfc.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 7:31 pm
For the vast majority, sure. It’s an aphrodisiac for SoB.
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 7:32 pm
I really don’t care what gets written in newspaper columns Steve.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:33 pm
could it be David Bradbury Gab? He sounds like he’s been sucking on the helium balloon-blower-upper.
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 7:34 pm
Fleeced – in the culinary world, tomatoes are used as vegetables. As are cucumbers, capsicums/chillis and other plants that are botanically considered fruits.
Anyway, I did say there are exceptions. But it’s a rule that works maybe 90-95% of the time.
Oh come on
22 Mar 13 at 7:35 pm
CL brings up the column about every 6 months too. He must keep it bookmarked. He and Sheehan are both clearly more obsessed with the alleged power of a story about a man who didn’t wash his hands after a pee than I am.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 7:38 pm
Yea Brian. Good find. That’s it.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:38 pm
A Tradesman washes his hands before and after urinating.
If being forced to choose only one hand wash, before wins.
We have our contamination priorities sorted.
jumpnmcar
22 Mar 13 at 7:39 pm
It is nevertheless pretty gross Steve.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:39 pm
Thanks, Tinta but not Bradbury. The guy I’m thinking of is older, probably in his 50′s. Older union guy. The voice is really gruff and rather unique.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 7:39 pm
Somebody didn’t grow up on a pineapple farm.
lotocoti
22 Mar 13 at 7:41 pm
I hate to break the news to you, SDFC, but most leftwingers don’t wash their hands after the toilet no matter what they’re “evacuating”.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:41 pm
Fair enough, OCO… I think people don’t consider them as fruits because they lack the typical sweetness one associates with fruit.
Like I said, I generally hate sweet foods with meals other than breakfast – but don’t mind pineapple on pizza for some reason. And speaking of burgers, I’ve noticed a lot of places smother them in too much bbq sauce nowadays – and it’s often a sickly sweet sauce, too
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 7:41 pm
Observational public toilet studies in the US show that failure to hand wash is not as rare as some here seem to think. From a 2010 article:
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 7:46 pm
JC, I feel for you. I think those % are about right too. Every time, every job, I try to calculate the number of people I have to really work with by the 1000′s of $. , that is how much mental grief you get per week.
As for your father, well, a couple of Dr mates agree that many people’s frontal lobe _ that’s the bit that co-ordinates your brain-the adult bit at the front- starts to go at 60! So they can’t control themselves that well any more and start speaking tactlessly- crap to you and me- and making decisions that you spend your freaking free time trying to undo!
Buy him a hobby. Even if its an expensive one like collecting antique guitars/harleys it”l be worth it. As long as it’s not a woman.
MT Isa Miner
22 Mar 13 at 7:47 pm
Yeah good one JC.
I used to work with a guy who I saw come out of the cubical one day and then walk straight out the door. I never shook his hand again.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:47 pm
Gab Is it Paddy Crumlin? his voice gives me the creeps – sounds true to form – a Union heavy
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 7:47 pm
Brian, I would be happy to contribute some of my slow cooked 16 hour pulled pork.
Also, for a great takeaway burger, it’s hard to go past the burgers from the Embassy Taxi Cafe in Spencer St West Melbourne.
When I was at uni, I lived around the corner in King st and I reckon that I used to eat there a couple of times a week. Open 24/7 too.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 7:48 pm
SoB has toilet sites bookmarked, I’m not surprised.
jumpnmcar
22 Mar 13 at 7:49 pm
This thread or future threads on this subject should be retitled Valkyrie after the July 20 1944 bomb plot.
Eerily similar outcomes.
1944: Plotters realised the war was lost but thought by killing Hitler they may sue for peace and save German territory
2013: Plotters realised the election is lost but thought a change of leader might save some Labor seats
1944: Had previous assasination attempts
2013: Had previous assasination attempts, successful (Rudd) and failed (Rudd)
1944: Did not secure enough people in key positions to keep the SS in check
2013: Never had the numbers to start with and no support to keep unions in check
1944: Communication problems
2013: Rudd said he texted Crean he was not challenging. Crean denies receiving any text
1944: When it went pear shaped some not yet arrested commited suicide
2013: Richard Marles
1944: Mass round up and execution of plotters
2013: Mass purge and resignation of plotters
1944: Hitler became even more erratic not trusting anyone except sycophants like Keital, Bormann, Geobbels
2013: Gillard became even more erratic not trusting anyone except sycophants like Emmerson, Swan, Conroy
1944: Facing certain defeat in the east,Hitler diverts massive amounts of scarce resources to the west in preparation of an offensive in the Ardennes
2013: Facing a collapse of revenues, goes on a spending spree offensive in western Sydney and any other area where a vote might be saved
1944: Hitler moves to Berlin and hangs around to see the utter destruction of the country
2013: Gillard hangs around to see the complete and utter destruction and desolation of the Labor party.
Splatacrobat
22 Mar 13 at 7:52 pm
No, Tinta, appreciate your efforts though. Crumlin has a relatively normal voice, as has Bradbury. The guy I;m trying to remember has a very very strange voice, like I said as if someone was physically strangling him.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 7:52 pm
Dude, that’s nothing. I never saw it but there was a Turkish guy who (other fellas complained to HR) was jacking himself off at the urinal. Supposedly he wouldn’t stop if someone was next to him and just kept on tugging… tugging and making strange noises. He wasn’t around long.. and sent back to the Turkish office.
When asked about it by HR, he was flabbergasted there were any complaints as , he said, this is what men have to do to relieve themselves.
This fucker would prance around the NY trading room without a care in the world even though there was hundreds of eyeballs looking at him in disgust.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:53 pm
He was probably doing coke not having a shit. Cut the guy some slack.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 7:53 pm
Is George Michael Turkish?
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:54 pm
It was another career IT, if you can call it a career.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:55 pm
Splatacrobat, nailed it, bravo Sir.
jumpnmcar
22 Mar 13 at 7:57 pm
Close I think. Isn’t he from one of those med Islands like Crete or Cyprus?
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:58 pm
By God, you’re right. He’s at least Greek.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 7:59 pm
Wiki
Yea the tugger is from there.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 7:59 pm
Larry Pickering lets it all hang out:
Don’t hold back Larry. Tell us what you really think…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 7:59 pm
Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou sure as shit ain’t from Taiwan.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 8:00 pm
My God! I am almost hyperventilating at the thought of the fabulous John Goodman doing a show about food. I NEED to find this…
Tracey
22 Mar 13 at 8:00 pm
LOL. That’s quite disgusting, but funny.
Fleeced
22 Mar 13 at 8:00 pm
I used to have a boss who would borrow the newspaper I brought to work to read while he had his morning constitutional. I used to think that was pushing the bounds of propriety.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 8:02 pm
It’s very hard to urinate with an erection. HR should have advised him he’d be more comfortable jacking off in a stall.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 8:04 pm
I used to share a house with a guy who was too tight to buy toilet paper so when we ran out he’d use newspaper.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 8:06 pm
Stepford
That’s how highly your boss thought of you, hey? Nothing’s really changed over the years for you, has it.
In fact everyone here, male or female would do the same thing to you and not bat an eyelid.
JC
22 Mar 13 at 8:06 pm
It seems that this whole ALP shitstorm is all to do with Conroy trying to force through his stupid media laws without consulting properly. Gillard has created a cabinet within the cabinet and is not hearing any voices other than psychopathic ideologues (Conroy, Roxon etc) or borderline retards (Swan, Albanese).
Unless some of the messages of the last day or two sink in, I think that we are in for a very torrid time. These nutters will become more insular and deranged and I fear what may happen.
Truly scary times.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 8:08 pm
I would certainly never touch anything SFb has touched, JC. I mean he thinks not washing his hands after going to the toilet is no big deal. Eeerk. How uncouth and unhygienic.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 8:09 pm
The human backside doesn’t exactly seem the ideal design to me, from a “keeping it clean” point of view. That thought only occurred to me the other day, in fact.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 8:10 pm
I wonder what Bill Leak will come up with tomorrow
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 8:11 pm
Gab. Is this who you are thinking of?
Ian MacFarlane
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 8:12 pm
No, Gab. I always wash my hands, as a habit. It is a good habit. I also know that it is not going to cause an outbreak of plague if a substantial minority of guys don’t wash after urinating at a stall.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 8:13 pm
Too much information Steve.
sdfc
22 Mar 13 at 8:13 pm
Bingo!, Sept. That’s him. Thank you, hugs and kisses too.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 8:14 pm
Oh he’s not a union hack? Well there ya go.
Gab
22 Mar 13 at 8:17 pm
OMG yes they call him “Chainsaw”
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 8:17 pm
It was McFarlane who was very enamoured of Wong and was putty in her hands during negotiations to combat ‘the greatest moral challenge of our time.”
Tracey
22 Mar 13 at 8:23 pm
That’s him Tracey then Turnbull was turfed and the policy turned to shite and Tony made them wash their hands of it
Tintarella di Luna
22 Mar 13 at 8:31 pm
Well folks, I’m off for the next few hours.
Me and the little bloke are going to be watching Essendon demolish the Crows on FOX Footy.
He’s been jumping with excitement about the footy being back all week, and was just about busting at the seams when i picked him up from school this afternoon and told him it was footy night.
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 8:31 pm
JC, I’ve come right down to the bottom of this thread, risking alienation from all the regulars for not reading reams of … stuff … to say that a woman who likes steak and red wine is instantly attractive, full stop.
blogstrop
22 Mar 13 at 8:31 pm
Just Another Bloody Lawyer
22 Mar 13 at 8:33 pm
Specious rumours of Brian’s and my (coincidental) postings being somehow conspiratorial are just that.
blogstrop
22 Mar 13 at 8:34 pm
I think that arsewipe is a fairly apt description of you Steve.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 8:44 pm
I concur.
jumpnmcar
22 Mar 13 at 8:53 pm
Ha ha. Chunkwart looked up the betting market ‘cos I suggested it. Ha ha.
steve from brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 9:13 pm
Now that’s what I’m talkin’ abaht! Proper Orstralian food eated by families around a table. Well done Septimus!
I must say though that roast lamb is better on Sunday, for lunch. It’d not be good for me soul when I cark it if I ate lamb on a Friday.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 9:16 pm
Build a burger is the only US burger joint that’s any good .
Raven
22 Mar 13 at 9:17 pm
“to say that a woman who likes steak and red wine is instantly attractive, full stop”
ah well, that counts me out, I’ve got an aversion to red meat and prefer white wine. red wine makes me sneeze.
candy
22 Mar 13 at 9:17 pm
Steve, you have made some incredibly juvenile statements on this blog, but that takes the cake. Fuckwit.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 9:23 pm
Do you think they’ll believe us when we say that blog?
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 9:23 pm
Hey Brian, do you work with or know a copper who is married to a close relative of a StKilda footballer? The guy is originally from Corowa.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 9:28 pm
Not to harp on the burger/pizza thing but to me chicken on a pizza is a far greater abomination than pineapple on a burger.
Tracey
22 Mar 13 at 9:43 pm
Huckleberry, off the top of my head I can think of a few officers I have worked with relatives married into various footballing families…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 9:43 pm
Septimus:
Does beer with Pickles and Tiny Dancer count?
Cripes those lads can drink.
Mk50 of Brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 9:43 pm
As Australian as spotted dick and toad in a hole.
Infidel Tiger
22 Mar 13 at 9:45 pm
Just been round to the French bistro with the bride for a couple of steaks and a quart of Shiraz.
Will keep you posted.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 9:45 pm
Leigh Lowe is wise.
Pineapple is actually meant for pre-breakfast, as you wander about the garden wondering about the day. Like oranges are.
Brian and other neanderthals here who do not know this deserve to be sent out the back for a bit of Larry Dooley administered by JC, before he gets into a really bad mood and goes the Full Fisk on them …
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 9:46 pm
It’s difficult trying to ask without using his name. He was (is?) a motorbike copper based at Moorabbin going back a few years.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 9:46 pm
Huck, I believe I am aware of such an officer
(You’ll forgive me if I am a little vague.. I have good reasons)
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 9:52 pm
Pineapple juice is my preferred thirst killer in the event of dire hangovers.
Tracey
22 Mar 13 at 9:54 pm
Four ministers and three whips have been destroyed by this ludicrous non-challenge. What a shemozzle!
Fisky
22 Mar 13 at 9:55 pm
I grew up with him and we were pretty good mates in our youth. I haven’t seen him since a school reunion over 10 years ago.
Doesn’t sound like you and he are especially close mates.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 9:57 pm
If we end up down to Tanya as PM I’m leaving.
Tracey
22 Mar 13 at 9:57 pm
Jabba reckons that Crean was a lone wolf – or at least not playing by Rudd camp’s script…
linky
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 9:59 pm
… and a Party which had good about it when I was growing up.
Mar’n Fers’n is the last substantial link to that Party who I can bring to mind. His late father Jack, an exceptional Labor man, would not be pleased with what eventuated. He’d be happy with Mar’n coming good though.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 10:04 pm
Huck, on the contrary I get on extremely well 9at least I believe so) with the others I work with.
I’m just a little wary about discussing such matters in such an open forum..
There are a number of reasons for this that relate to personal safety (not just my own but my collegues as well).
I hope you understand why I might be retincent…
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 10:04 pm
I forgot to mention the baked onion. Mmmm.
Mk50 – I did have a beer before dinner, but just to cleanse the palate
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 10:05 pm
Yeah, understand Brian.
If the fellow concerned has a surname that matches one of the SEN football commentators, tell him Cleese said g’day.
Huckleberry Chunkwot
22 Mar 13 at 10:08 pm
Droner’s cabinet Mk V.
Selection criteria:-
Do they have Union Card in pocket …. Check
Can they fog up a shaving mirror …. Check
Can they spell A … W … U ……. Check
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 10:08 pm
Sounds pretty tasty. Baked beetroot (small ones) would top that one off nicely.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 10:11 pm
That last one might cull too many to be reasonable..
Driftforge
22 Mar 13 at 10:12 pm
Arnost, I posted a tweet at 4:31 from Paul Sheehan who claimed the something different:
Token
22 Mar 13 at 10:27 pm
Leigh, thanks. Will pass that on to my ladies.
Septimus
22 Mar 13 at 10:31 pm
Jabba would have been playing catch-up.
He would have been so pleased that the queues cleared in the Parliament House dining room at 12:30.
Probably still having his third helping of sticky date pudding when the meeting started at 4:30.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 10:33 pm
What would Jabba the Gross know?
I don’t buy that. After the denouement of 2013 and the nadir during 2014-2015 Labor will revive, more swiftly than is expected here, and with the unions still in control of the loot, the pre-selections and the policies.
It happened after 1996 when Labor lost 30 odd seats in a 5% swing. The personnel changed substantially and old allegiances and antipathies got dusty with time and departed with the wind.
Labor will leave behind thousands of sleepers in the public service, to mind the shop during the capitalist phase (for example, during Greiner’s and Fahey’s Governments I did business with several NSW heads of departments and one in particular consulted more, daily, with Opposition Leader Carr than she did with her own minister! … and profited handsomely when he became Premier).
Further, Labor will still have the media cheer squad (about 90% of everyone scribbling in the main stream) and a phalanx of young hopefuls indoctrinated at school by Miss who simply hate Tony Abbott and don’t know, or care, why.
The Courier Mail has been showing how it is done from the day after Comrade Lovely Anna Blie$ took her handsome pension. They’ve not let up on Campbell Newman, from Day One.
Comrade Dear Leader (in exile) has touted his honest word for the past 48 hours and all people will remember is that he didn’t bring on yesterday’s Gilbert and Sullivan-esque unchallenge. He’s got plenty of time to re-emerge as the messiah in 2 or 3 years with few of his enemies still holding seats. In any event he’s otherwise unemployable – what else is he going to do?
The dumb electorate will welcome his return because Tony Abbott has very big ears.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 10:41 pm
Good point.
The Crime Minister should just stick with the foggy mirror test to select he new cabinet.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 10:41 pm
LOL – not unexpected, I guess we’ll have to wait for the memoirs. And those I reckon will still be sus.
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 10:43 pm
Jabba approaches the Parliament House dining room
Mk50 of Brisbane
22 Mar 13 at 10:43 pm
And that’s why they must go NOW… Before they have time to do this, and to lay the booby traps for the next government… I’d bet that there are focus group sessions on just this round the clock.
Arnost
22 Mar 13 at 10:48 pm
Arnost, too late.
They’ve been filling the APS since 2007 (to replace those few swept out under the 11 years of Howard), and then multiplied like maggots in a festering corpse since..
Indeed, I dare say the “long march through the institutions” Mick describes actually started at least back while Hawke and Keating were in power… it only slowed down slightly (and became less obvious) during the Howard government..
Brian of Moorabbin
22 Mar 13 at 11:05 pm
Essendon FC just creamed Adelaide.
Memo …. Jason Clare and Kate Lundy who tried to destroy them to save themselves and Lardarse.
That’s what a real team looks like, dickheads.
Youse could learn summink from that.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 11:20 pm
Tony may have big ears, Mick, but he never picks the wax out of them for morning tea.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 11:35 pm
I first noticed them stacking the office cubicles in NSW back in the ’80s, Brian, under Nifty then Unsworth.
When Labor fell the scouting parties moved en masse down south to serve John Cain, then to Wayne Goss or back to Comrade General Ulysses Simpson Carr as Premier in NSW, to rejoin past fellow footsoldiers now promoted.
Whenever it was they invented the senior executive service there spawned a new cadre of highly paid commos with tenure for life, or a fabulous contract payout if that suited better.
Incidentally, it was when Carr was Planning Minister that I first encountered snarling feminist activists (like Comrade Bogan Broadly Beamed) in senior bureaucratic positions, truly vicious wimminses who were interested only in warfare, and not at all in that sophisticated policy stuff.
At 35ish and on top of my profession their behaviour and absent professionalism pulled me up short, completely and utterly confused.
Mick Gold Coast QLD
22 Mar 13 at 11:40 pm
I’m in, Blogstrop. Big red meat eater and red wine drinker. Couldn’t live and dine with Da Hairy Ape if I wasn’t.
We were just talking about when we go back to Sydney. We’re on the back nine here darlin’, he tells me as I silently groan at the thought of packing up and re-arranging our lives again in nine months time.
Then he looks at me quizzically.
You don’t know what that is, do you?
Yes I do, I protest. Then I make a wild guess. It’s something to do with football isn’t it?
Dat’s what I love about you, he says unbelievingly, but still looking at me fondly. You’re a complete sporting innocent but you never fail to try.
Apparently it’s golf.
He gets a certain look sometimes when we are together. I invited a fat and lonely German girl with bad skin and a slightly abrasive manner to join us for dinner one night at our resort, as she had taken all her meals by herself. She was getting over a bad love affair, she told us.
I haff been watching how he looks at you, she told me in front of him. How much he luffs you.
We didn’t mention the blazing row we had had earlier. Luff is like Mortein to us: we’re on a good thing and we’re sticking to it. Kills our rows stone dead.
I didn’t ask her again for fear the lufflight might flicker again a bit. He was unimpressed at being dragooned into having his meal under Germanic surveillance. Still, it was red meat and red wine, which, as we know, always kindles the fire.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
22 Mar 13 at 11:42 pm
Malice must have been called to Sussex Street along with Monty to take their blood oath of allegiance to Gillard. Either that or she is bunkered down with Katter after he appointed her his Finance spokesperson. With her ecconomic credentials Bob will have the budget balanced in no time.
Splatacrobat
22 Mar 13 at 11:48 pm
Gonna be precious few lifeboats left on September 15th.
Hopefully Tony has a chainsaw, not a paring knife.
Leigh Lowe
22 Mar 13 at 11:59 pm
Same thing happened in Qld. The Labor camp followers all went south in search of friendly board appointments. Mike Kaiser (convicted branch stacker and enrollment rorter) works for the NBN.
Former Queensland Treasurer and Sport Minister, Andrew Fraser, joined the Australian Sports Commission as a board member.
Anna Bligh’s hubby got a senior executive position with Arts NSW.
Splatacrobat
23 Mar 13 at 12:17 am
@Mick Gold Coast QLD
In the real world you would not even go near Canberra without firing every single Exec level PS on a Friday and tell them to re-apply on the Monday.
NoFixedAddress
23 Mar 13 at 12:19 am
It would be lovely to take a chainsaw to the overly middle-management bloated APS… yet reality is that it won’t happen.
As Mick pointed out, many of them are on
It will cost more than the currect $300Billion in Debt that Swannie has put the country in to pay out many of those contracts… and as for those with lifetime tenure – not even an extinction level comet (like that which killed the dinosaurs) would be able to budge the APS cockroaches from their cushy ivory tower offices.
At best Tony will only be able to trim a little fat here and there (all the while facing the same squealing from Leftists that we hear currently directed at Campbell Newman and his attempts to pare back the bloated bureaucracy that has paralysed QLD for the last 15 years), perhaps stemming the tide for a short period… but unless there is an outright campaign of mass extermination the maggots will continue to breed and breed and breed…
Brian of Moorabbin
23 Mar 13 at 12:49 am
@Brian
You forget about reassignment of duties.
The Ministry of ‘Wombats’, with ground level, open plan, glass fronted offices in every Capital City, excluding Canberra, would be staffed only by Exec Level PS.
No member of the public would be able to talk to them.
CCTV would monitor every movement.
Their task, hand number A4 copy paper reams every day.
Ken Henry would be the chief Wombat and be responsible for Quality Control.
NoFixedAddress
23 Mar 13 at 1:15 am
@Brian,
What do you think these “too much money to get rid of” sleepers will cost this country?
I was not aware that Swannee has ticked up $300billion but if that is the case then when will the country decimate the rotten core of the PS?
Leave them go and the next time the AL(union)Party really hits there straps and they pump it to $600billion?
When do we hit the minor leagues and have $1trillion borrowed with the same old same old cretinous PS?
Show me one single ferking government department that say they know what they are doing and i will show you a pack of spin!
NoFixedAddress
23 Mar 13 at 1:29 am
@NoFixedAddress
– I like the idea of a Ministry of Wombats staffed by exec level PS doing nothing but hand numbering reams of paper all day every day. If I had my druthers, they’d be using their own blood as the ink… Sadly though I forsee many of them sticking it out because they know that, eventually, the ALP will get back in and they’ll be back into the trough before you can blink.
– The $300Billion may be a little exaggerated, but I’m pretty sure I recently read (via a link here on the Cat) that the current debt was at $286Billion, with a $300Billion ceiling… given the amount that even Treasury admits they are borrowing at the moment, $300Billion by September 14 is easily acheivable.
– I’d suggest that the cost of getting rid of the sleepers in the APS will run into the hundreds of million dollar regions (at least), and I base this on having read about payouts to senior APS Execs who ‘resigned’ under Howard and were paid muli-million dollar payouts (if I recall correctly one was over $10million)
- When do we decimate the rotten core of the APS? Good question.
Personally it would happen on September 15 (which can’t happen constitutionally as an Abbott Government would need to be sworn in first).. but at least on the official Day One of a sworn in Abbott government.
How do we get rid of them? Well, therein lies the real issue.
I could give my personal view on how to get rid of the maggots, but I’ve no interest in having a cavity search performed by ASIO et al because some APS maggot takes my comment as a ‘death-threat’… Suffice to say I’d like to see Tony wield a chainsaw through the APS until it resembles something resembling the landscape around Queenstown in Tasmania.
– Governemnt departs knowing what they are doing v spin merchants: Again no argument from me. Again I’d like to see them pruned like a gardener going after rosebushes in winter…
Sadly, for all of the above, I am cynical enough to believe that despite all the comments about what Tony should do to the APS when he takes office, the harsh reality is that he will be hamstrung from doing what needs to be done due to squealing Leftists, just as Campbell Newman is facing in QLD, and the public backlash that such squealing inevitably produces.
I hope that I am wrong, and that Tony really can cull the traitorous Leftist infestion that bloats the APS; trimming it to a much more reasonable (and manageable) size, and re-imposing a strict code of neutrality (any hint of political partisanship toward either side of politics will be ruthlessly stamped out, whether Right- or Left-wing..)
But I honestly think it will be the former, not the latter…
Brian of Moorabbin
23 Mar 13 at 2:36 am
Blog strop – what about women who like red meat and whiskey? (If they seem to be developing an allergy to red wine perhaps on account of over indulging? Or maybe it is the preservatives.)
Helen Armstrong
23 Mar 13 at 11:52 am
There’s more histamines in red wine than white wine, Helen.
candy
23 Mar 13 at 12:11 pm
Brian of Moorabbin 23 Mar 13 at 2:36 am
Yeah Brian…
Over the years I get down and defeated also….
One of the saddest indications I ever saw of the destruction of law in this country was the behavior of the, then, police commissioner of Victoria toward the actions of protesters at the 2006 G20 meeting in Melbourne.
When I see reports like this, Protesters ‘will be waiting’ for G20, then i wonder!
NoFixedAddress
24 Mar 13 at 2:22 pm