Did Labor ever intend to deliver a budget surplus?

Wayne Swan and Julia Gillard consistently promised budget surpluses which they never delivered (see below for quotes). At first I thought they had been genuinely committed to achieving a budget surplus, but were incompetent in running a government to keep expenditure less than revenue.

But lately I’ve come to the view that they deliberately deceived the public. To hide an outrageous and Whitlamesque expansion in the size of Commonwealth Government outlays, the surplus promises calmed the potential criticism they would have otherwise received from such a rapid expansion in government outlays. The surplus promises also reduced the incentives for the media to delve deeply into the nature of this Government’s outlays.

While we cannot rerun history, I have no doubt that any half-decent Prime Minister and Treasurer who had been in office since 2008 would have been delivering a budget surplus in 2012-13. But this was never the intention of Gillard and Swan. They saw the opportunity of the GFC to permanently increase the size and reach of government in Australia.

Long-lived governments have a tendency to increase outlays as time passes; after all they often do not wish to part with old programs and there are always new spending opportunities. It is to the credit of the Howard and Costello period that the budget was kept in surplus. Mostly this is due to Peter Costello himself. He consistently sought to underestimate revenue growth, knowing that spending ministers, including Prime Minister Howard, would find ways to spend taxpayers’ money. The future fund and the tax cuts are his great legacy. The former to lock away a large amount for the continent liability of government (just another form of debt) and the latter returned the money to the people who created it in the first place. Costello also established the strong rule of keeping the budget in surplus which frightened the spending ministers and kept them on a rein. Now it is true that the Howard government did become somewhat more profligate in its latter years. In part this is due to the repeated game Costello was playing – spending ministers started to expect that actual revenue would come in more than forecast revenue. Hence the vital importance of the Costello tax cuts, which compensated for the lack of indexation of the progressive tax scales, and left the money with people who would spend it more wisely than any government.

By contrast, Wayne Swan is an abject failure. Instead of being conservative in budget forecasts, Swanny went to the spending ministers, including Julia Gillard, promising golden revenue flows – he has consistently overestimated revenue. So although revenue has been rising significantly (after the GFC), Swanny promised even more. And naturally the greedy spending ministers and prime minister were happy to increase government spending.

The Treasurer is supposed to be the gamekeeper, countering the natural tendency for spending ministers to increase the size of their empires. Swan, instead, has been one of the worst poachers, cheering on a massive expansion in outlays, risking Australia’s credit rating and subjecting future generations to an unnecessary debt burden and tax increases.

This is the economy which Tony Abbott will inherit. It will take a great deal of sensible policy to bring it back into the black, cutting spending which has been locked in –  Gillard and Swan have deliberately created a poison pill. It will be a long time indeed before any tax cuts can be contemplated. This is the legacy of Swan.

From Tim Blair:

Wayne Swan, May 2010:

We now expect a surplus in three years, three years ahead of schedule.

Julia Gillard, August 2010:

The Budget will be back in surplus in 2013 if I’m re-elected.

Wayne Swan, August 2010 :

Well, we’re getting back into surplus in three years. Come hell or high water.

Julia Gillard, August 2010:

The Budget is coming back to surplus, no ifs no buts it will happen.

Julia Gillard, November 2010:

The budget will be back in the black, back in surplus in 2012-13 … as promised.

Wayne Swan, April 2011 :

We see the surplus in 12-13 as being absolutely fundamental.

Julia Gillard, April 2011:

My commitment to a surplus in 2012-13 was a promise made and it will be honoured.

Wayne Swan, May 2011:

We’ll be back in the black by 2012/13, as promised.

Julia Gillard, May 2011:

We’ll bring the budget to surplus in 2012-13, exactly as promised.

Wayne Swan, August 2011:

I believe we will attain those forecasts, coming back to surplus in 2012/13.

Wayne Swan, August 2011:

The government remains absolutely committed to delivering our return to surplus as we planned.

Wayne Swan, February 2012:

I am determined to produce a surplus in 2012-2013. We have got our colours nailed to the mast.

Wayne Swan, March 2012:

Despite the tough global conditions, we remain determined to return the budget to surplus in 2012/13, and we will get there.

Julia Gillard, November 2012:

We stand by the predictions, the entries in the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook. We stand by the figures and we’re on track to deliver a budget surplus.

Wayne Swan, December 2012:

It’s appropriate that we return to surplus.

Wayne Swan, December 2012:

It’s unlikely that there will be a surplus in 2012/13.

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80 Responses to Did Labor ever intend to deliver a budget surplus?

  1. Warwick

    Who knows? If they were committed it was a very vague and weak commitment. But hardly a conspiracy. Nobody comes out of this mess unscathed, including voters and the taxpayers.And the Treasury’s reputation is shredded.

  2. sfw

    It would be a terrible thing for the nation but I’d almost like to see Labor win. Just to see what happens next. I can’t imagine what worse things they could do but I’m sure they could think of many things. I just don’t have the imagination they do, I guess.

  3. stackja

    voters and the taxpayers.

    Many voters forgot they were taxpayers when Julia came a Swanning.

  4. Carpe Jugulum

    Wayne Swan is an abject failure

    Testify brother.

    It would be a terrible thing for the nation but I’d almost like to see Labor win. Just to see what happens next.

    Don’t.even.think.it.

  5. Empire Strikes Back

    It would be a terrible thing for the nation but I’d almost like to see Labor win

    Seek treatment without delay. Early intervention saves lives.

  6. sfw

    Empire – I know it’s wrong but it’s like watching a train wreck and I wonder what would happen if it wasn’t stopped short. Fascinating.

  7. Samuel J

    It would be a terrible thing for the nation but I’d almost like to see Labor win

    No, surely not? To allow these kleptomaniacs more opportunities to fleece your wallet?

  8. sunshine

    It seems the surplus fetish is becoming widely established . Probably mainly just as a political tactic to capitalise on the widespread belief that Labor cant manage money .

  9. Fisky

    Nope. And they also never intended to stop the boats. The current situation with 30,000 illegal immigrants per year, mostly from hostile countries, is exactly what they wanted from the start. As with refugee policy, they only go through the motions of pretending to want a budget surplus to retain credibility.

  10. sfw

    I just wonder at what point would the 38% who still vote for them would change their minds. I mean what would it take?

  11. Leigh Lowe

    Did Labor ever intend to deliver a surplus?

    Do you ascribe some grand design to this schemozzle?
    As Sir Humphrey would say ….. “That would be to confuse lethargy for strategy, Minister”

  12. sunshine

    Nothing wrong with our kids helping to pay off debt if they are the ones enjoying the benefits of our investments – spending wisely is the key .

  13. Phill

    One wonders if it is some sort of master plan to to force higher taxes and bigger government on an unwilling Australia. Fabian gradualism, acelerated to a blitzkreig pace, but hidden behind a maskirovka of surplus camouflage. If so, and if it could be proved, what punishment would fit that crime?

  14. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    Did Goose ever intend to look like such a complete, um, goose?

    Did Slush Fund ever intend to be the first prime minister subject to a police investigation while in office?

    Intentions don’t matter. Results are all that matter.

  15. sunshine

    Look out – politifact fact checker service is starting up here in 2 weeks time !

  16. duncanm

    where did sunshine come from? Someone’s ar*e?

  17. Carpe Jugulum

    Probably mainly just as a political tactic to capitalise on the widespread belief that Labor cant manage money .

    Please don’t drunk blog, it always ends in tears.

  18. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    It would be a terrible thing for the nation but I’d almost like to see Labor win

    What. The. F*CK?

    Seriously, you are either a bit clueless, or a troll.

    What the HELL do you think ARGENTINA is?

    The road we are on is exactly the same one which populist incompetent tax-and-spend squandermonkeys followed to turn Argentina from a first world nation into a corrupt, self-appointed-elite-run third world craphole.

  19. mareeS

    Over the term of this government I’ve entertained myself by considering a possible range of hidden agendas, or whether these people are terminal imbeciles.

    The latter seems to be the case, unfortunately for the nation.

  20. From the first minute, Warwick, this government spent like drunken sailors. It was deliberate – Gillard knew what she was doing, and so did Rudd.

  21. duncanm

    maree.. I tend to agree. Hanlon’s razor / Ingham at work.

  22. Skuter

    With apologies to General Aladeen of Wadiya for comparing him to a bunch of malevolent imbeciles…

    Swanny and Gillard have booked the limo, got the cocktails ready and have donned their fiscal rapin’ shoes…

    I watched ‘The Dictator’ on the weekend and I’ ve been itching to use that line…

  23. Bob

    mareeS,

    Our politicians’ have given themselves benefits very far away from those available to the people they represent. Consequently, I believe our concerns are of no interest to them.

    I wonder how imbecilic politicians would be if their super was:

    a. Based on schemes offered by the big super funds.

    b. Not available until age 60.

    If this were the situation, I cannot imagine Gillard, Swan and Milne would be quite so enthusiastic about kneecapping the providers of their retirement income.

  24. Biota

    enjoying the benefits of our investments

    What bloody investments- school halls and pink batts? or lots more ‘refugees’ taking even more money from the kid’s pay packet.

  25. Louis Hissink

    Samuel J,

    And what do you suppose Gillard’s final game plan is, politically, bearing in mind that she’s a bit to the left of the Fabians.

    I sense I am in the company of insensate cane toads, not sensitive frogs, about to go swimming.

  26. Splatacrobat

    Big ideas with our wallets to match.
    I’m inclined to believe they planned to get back to surplus as they always achieve the impossible by failing to deliver the possible.

  27. Samuel J

    Sunshine – I can’t think of even one thing this government has spent wisely on. It isn’t a widespread belief that Labor cannot manage money. Is a fact.

    Louis – I think they held out as long as possible on the surplus line until it became totally untenable. I expect they will try to implement big spending programs that are difficult if not impossible for the Coalition to unwind. I expect they will appoint friends to high office and so forth. The thing about government: it inexorably grows in size and even conservative governments with thumping majorities can’t seem to make a significant dent in that pattern. They might slow the growth, or even stop it for a short while. But up it goes again, waiting for the next Labor government to grow it faster.

  28. Samuel J

    Just look at every constituency. They all think that their share of government spending should grow faster – or keep pace – with the economy. That is, they all want their share of government spending as a proportion of GDP to go up.

    But why?

    If the economy doubles in size, do we need a foreign service that doubles in size? Are there no economies of scale in government? (silly question, there are diseconomies of scale in government).

  29. 2dogs

    It was never an actual concern for them.

    It was certainly Labor’s intention to say they would deliver a surplus, because it was an expedient political strategy to do so.

    Anything beyond that strategy, such as the actual delivery of the surplus itself, was simply of no real interest to them. Only the spin matters.

  30. jumpnmcar

    OK, so Treasury fucked up Royal in predicting, so who’s in charge? Who put him there? What brilliant thing did he do to earn this important and trusted gig?

    Oooohhh… well then, this explains it.

    Dr Martin Parkinson was appointed as Secretary to the Treasury in March 2011. As Secretary, he is a member of the Board of the Reserve Bank of Australia, Chair of the Advisory Board of the Australian Office of Financial Management and a member of the Council of Financial Regulators, the Board of Taxation and Infrastructure Australia.

    Dr Parkinson was the Secretary of the Department of Climate Change from its establishment in December 2007, and headed up the Climate Change Group in the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet earlier in 2007.

    Sack the dickhead !!

  31. Cato the Elder

    One should normally take sane adults to intend the natural and logical consequences of their actions, regardless of their stated intentions . . . .

    Oh, wait . . . .

  32. Skuter

    Louis, in the short-term at least, Gillard’s game is to lay as many land mines as she can as she retreats. Their strategy is to lock in as much spending as possible that will be unpopular to repeal. The latest exhibit is the fact that she wants to enshrine the NSW Gonski funding in legislation so Abbott would need to pass a bill that would take money away from NSW. I will never forgive fatty o’barrell for supping with this she-devil.

  33. jupes

    The latter seems to be the case, unfortunately for the nation.

    I’m with you mareeS. They are imbeciles.

  34. Cato the Elder

    Not imbeciles, totalitarian millennialist utopian wankers with NO connection with reality

  35. Skuter

    Sack the dickhead !!

    I agree jump. Parkinson has to go. He and 3/4s of the current SES in Treasury should not only be sacked, but forced to wear clown suits while walking down Northbourne Ave with people flown in from all around the country to throw rotten fruit at them.
    On a related note, does anyone know if Ken Henry is still on the PM’s payroll courtesy of a dodgy use of the constitution? He should be up the front of the parade with Parkinson.

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  37. Mantaray

    This is all naive BS.

    The ALP (and PS) enablers are being paid commissions by the lenders. They get a cut of the multiple billions they have locked US into paying in interest. It is THAT simple.

    The money is being put in anonymous, discrete accounts overseas someplace and will be collected by family or trusted friends.

    No ALP MP or well-placed, well-informed operative needs a job after 14 September. Until then they will ALL do their best to increase the take…the borrowings and the commissions. That’s it.

  38. Adrian

    i’m tempted to think they never had any intention of delivering a surplus; however, i think we are dealing with some fairly dim witted individuals.

  39. Louis Hissink

    Samuel J,

    Agreed – we are on a slow train railing down towards a quasi socialist state. I was astonished to hear today on the, “effing”, ABC that even more legislation is planned this current sitting. Why this ever burdening increase in regulation?

    I’ve always maintained that our system will inevitably slide into full monty socialism simply because, every so often, the conservatives lose out electorally to the socialists, who then increase the regulatory burden. It’s basically unavoidable, since they can’t repeal it. What I had not realised was how rapid that slide into serfdom is becoming. It’s plain as night following night that all those overseas jaunts our political elite are revelling in are simply meetings of the global bruvverhood coordinating their efforts to implement their ultimate goal. Their goal is ostensibly to abolish the nation-states which they believe to be the cause of human misery, and to set up a Platonic utopia.

    But whether the present incumbents seriously hoped to produce a surplus, or not, remains moot. These idiots seem to believe that if the cash rate becomes zero, then there is an infinite amount of money available; they simply do not understand Say’s Law. I don’t think Keynes ever did, and the reason why he never was able to refute it.

    Skuter, Mike Costa on the Bolt Report a couple of days ago pointed out that NSW had little choice – money is money, whatever the tricks attached to it.

    Lenin was attributed with the idea that the quickest way to destroy a civilisation was to debauch its money. Keynes developed the theoretical basis for it, and that’s what seems to be happening today.

    As an indication, I usually pay about $40 for a bottle Jameson, but today I paid $52, the result of CPI adjustments according to my providor. A rather steep increase, to be sure.

    In any case Gillard’s childish metaphor of “johnnie” and his bonuses etc shows the shallowness of her understanding of economics and, more pertinently, the basis of human action.

  40. jupes

    He and 3/4s of the current SES in Treasury should not only be sacked …

    I think the threshold for sacking should be anyone who believes the CO2 tax is a good idea.

    That should get rid of a bit more that 3/4 of the imbeciles I would think.

  41. cohenite

    These people have no shame or, at first glance, connection with reality.

    Look at shagger Thomson setting up a fund to raise money to defend himself.

    Seems stupid doesn’t it; but wouldn’t donations be anonymous?

  42. val majkus

    I agree with Adrian, but the majority of the MSM are dim witted too – they’re still not questioning the given reasons for the worsening budget deficit
    check out Bolt’s column today http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/how_the_left_cheered_gillard_as_she_said_shed_blown_our_cash/
    and go to the transcript of audience questions http://www.pm.gov.au/press-office/transcript-audience-question-and-answer-session-reform-agenda-public-forum
    It’s shocking how these people don’t perceive the trouble we’re in

  43. val majkus

    sorry I didn’t have time to do the links properly before – a cat crises
    Cohenite if you’re doing donations by any method other than cash payments into the account I can’t see how they would be anonymous

  44. val majkus

    referring to the audience transcript above have a look at this question

    QUESTION: I just wanted to ask you how we could address the difference between facts and perception. I know you’re focused on the facts.

    There seems to be so much misperception and I just hope that Australians realise that there is so much misperception from so many factors in our society and I wondered how we might deal with that given the great work that you’ve done.

    that person must live in a cave

  45. Tel

    As an indication, I usually pay about $40 for a bottle Jameson, but today I paid $52, the result of CPI adjustments according to my providor. A rather steep increase, to be sure.

    That’s strange because imported Scotch is generally becoming more competitive, and about time too when you consider how long the AUD has been at strength and how little the prices have moved in the past few years.

  46. Tel

    He and 3/4s of the current SES in Treasury should not only be sacked, but forced to wear clown suits while walking down Northbourne Ave with people flown in from all around the country to throw rotten fruit at them.

    Attractive idea, but Keynesian economics has been text book stuff for a generation. It may be wrong, but there is no personal risk in doing something stupid if you can find a mainstream textbook that told you it was a good idea. Your suggestion smacks of bringing back personal responsibility for actions, and we are a long way from that.

  47. cohenite

    Cohenite if you’re doing donations by any method other than cash payments into the account I can’t see how they would be anonymous

    Apparently shagger is not accepting credit cards, according to Price and Bolt who are on in the background.

  48. Andrew

    Supposedly Judith is bashing Stephen Koukolas around like a baby seal on the economy debate on Showdown.

  49. Louis Hissink

    jameson isn’t scotch, actually, it’s Awerish Whisky.

  50. Louis Hissink

    Cohenite, EFT’s are still traceable. Having saidwritten that, he is soliciting funds electronically, no?

  51. candy

    I’ve wondered at times if Mr Swan is not truthful and hiding important information about the state of the financials, but that would mean Treasury would be involved. So that can’t be it, but he seems secretive and gone in hiding of late.

  52. Louis Hissink

    Tel,

    What Scotch isn’t imported; I recall Corio being a local brand, but the rest seemed imported. Corio seems to have disappeared from the scene. (And I was introduced to Jameson by the bar manager at the Kings Rest Hotel in Derby, WA, during 2000).

  53. cohenite

    I don’t know Louis; I’d hate to think shagger was up to no good. Paper bags are so old school, definitely not Gonski.

  54. Sinclair Davidson

    Jameson is good for making coffee.

  55. sfw

    The local supermarket had Jameson at two for $60 the other day. Should have bought it.
    I’m not a troll, I’m as pissed off as any sane person can be with this current lot of crooks and spivs. I certainly don’t want them to succeed again at the next election. I’m just curious about how much worse they could get and still get MSM support and people to vote for them.
    Just a curious boy.

  56. Skuter

    Jameson is good for making coffee.

    In spite of your essendon fetish, I knew you were a top bloke deep down Sinc…

  57. Skuter

    Skuter, Mike Costa on the Bolt Report a couple of days ago pointed out that NSW had little choice – money is money, whatever the tricks attached to it.

    With all due respect Louis, that is garbage. There has never been a better time to refuse Gillard’s tainted cash and hold the line against TLS…

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Jameson is good for making coffee.

    What else can you use it for?
    The guy at the Victa shop told me to stop putting it in the mower.
    The council won’t let me put it down the stormwater.
    Apart from mixing it with Coca Cola and feeding it to the in-laws at Christmas ……..

  59. Leigh Lowe

    What Scotch isn’t imported; I recall Corio being a local brand

    Otherwise known as CoR10

  60. trax

    It will be a long time indeed before any tax cuts can be contemplated.

    I want to see the public service cut so hard they are protesting in the streets in no time and then they all scurry away and have to get jobs in the real world. You know QLD style.
    Then we might have a chance of getting back to normalcy.

  61. lem

    There has never been a better time to refuse Gillard’s tainted cash and hold the line against TLS…

    especially with the Victorian Fraud Squad on the way…

  62. RMR

    As an old boss of mine used to say, don’t mistake luck for capability (Howard/Costello) and its corollary don’t mistake incompetence for a conspiracy (Rudd/Gillard/Swan).

  63. Leigh Lowe

    Potted version of the Brothel Creeper Support Fund.
    CT has goat photos (or equivalent) and, in any case, even if he didn’t, whatever he said about NSW ALP personalities would ring true right now.
    CT is not going quietly.
    He sure as shit is not going broke quietly.
    The brothers need to help him out (and keep their names out of it) but any help needs to be laundered.
    CT doesn’t just want his legals covered. He realises that his future is basically the dole or Jim’s mowing ….. he needs a bit extra.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    Cohenite if you’re doing donations by any method other than cash payments into the account I can’t see how they would be anonymous

    Maybe someone has been doing some deep gardening work at 85 Kerr St Fitzroy.

  65. H B Bear

    I think Maxwell Swan’s efforts can be put down to gross incompetence and profound intellectual shortcomings. I just don’t think he gets it.

    Gillard is pure malevolence. I don’t think it is possible to read the transcript of her “exit” interview with Slater & Gordon without recognising she has no sense of right and wrong. It is difficult to imagine a more serious set of circumstances than effective expulsion from a partnership – a legal construct based on absolute trust between individuals. Her career is entirely one of patronage – by the unions and Emilys List.

    Together, surrounded almost exclusively by union hacks and Labor party machine men and women, they are a perfect storm that has delivered the worst government Australia has ever seen.

  66. But this was never the intention of Gillard and Swan.

    I’ve entertained myself by considering a possible range of hidden agendas, or whether these people are terminal imbeciles.

    I submitted a letter to the Oz in which I compared Joh Bjelke-P and his need for a Terry Lewis to Gillard and her need for a Swan, to provide deliberately bloated estimates cover for her bankruptcy of the nation’s economy. It was not published. I still think I was right.

  67. Warwick

    Re Corio – old time bartenders used to remove a nip from the bottle and replace it with a nip of sweet sherry. After the first Scotch (Scots’) whiskey, the drinkers apparently couldn’t tell the difference.

  68. I hope the ATO is watching the money go into the Brothel Creepers Support Fund. He’ll be well into the highest marginal rate…

  69. What Scotch isn’t imported…

    This is Australia, Scotch whisky has to be imported!

  70. twostix

    It would be a terrible thing for the nation but I’d almost like to see Labor win. Just to see what happens next. I can’t imagine what worse things they could do but I’m sure they could think of many things. I just don’t have the imagination they do, I guess.

    “They worked with the seriousness of creators and destruction after all is a form of creation. A kind of imagination had seen this house country as it had now become.”

    The broad left are the political equivalent of the Wormsley Common Gang.

  71. twostix

    I hope the ATO is watching the money go into the Brothel Creepers Support Fund. He’ll be well into the highest marginal rate…

    They weren’t too concerned about the hundred thousands of dollars worth of “gifts” he recieved from the ALP and the fringe benefits he’s taken from HSU over the last few years.

    Did he pay tax on all of those?

  72. Hockeynomics

    Mr Denmore blows the media’s economic spin out of the water:

    You see, this is what happens when you let political journalists loose on an economics story. For these people, bonds have something to do with the money they will forfeit for spilling red wine on the carpet of their 80s rented apartments in Belconnen. Economic literacy is not the gallery’s strong point. Easier just to reheat the talking points supplied them by the political short-order chefs.

    Which is why the routine with budget stories is to wheel out Chris Richardson of Deloitte Access Economics, position him Moses-like on a grassy knoll overlooking federal parliament, and get him to dip into his bulging knapsack of mangled metaphors about various dire states of in-hockedness.

    http://thefailedestate.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/of-human-bondage.html

    lol

    It’s a travesty how bad our media are in this country.

  73. .

    Look out – politifact fact checker service is starting up here in 2 weeks time !

    sunshine your lies get carved up here all of the time.

    Here is a question for you, fact checker,

    Did Gillard rip off the AWU, WA Government, Thesis, the ATO and an Orphans and Widows Trust Fund?

    Shove that up your arse you pinko swine.

  74. John A

    “Man is a complicating animal. Give him too much money and he will devise a scheme so complicated it won’t work.

    He will only simplify under pressure, so you have to apply some financial pressure. Cut his budget in half.

    He will scream blue murder, then come back with a simpler solution that surprises even him.”

    Via faulty memory from my favourite management text: Up The Organisation Bob Townsend approx 1973

  75. sunshine

    Did Gillard rip off

    She probably didnt do anything lawyers dont normally do , like when Julie Bishop helped James Hardie delay asbestos justice so that many would die before they could be compensated .

  76. A Lurker

    I just wonder at what point would the 38% who still vote for them would change their minds. I mean what would it take?

    Radical brain surgery.

  77. Leigh Lowe

    Here’s the difference you vacuous twat.
    Julie Bishop didn’t live in a house paid for by asbestos victims, nor did she have an open account at a boutique funded by a levy on their pay-packet.
    She didn’t witness any documents without the subject being present.
    And Julie Bishop won’t be charged with anything.

  78. A Lurker

    One wonders if it is some sort of master plan to to force higher taxes and bigger government on an unwilling Australia. Fabian gradualism, acelerated to a blitzkreig pace, but hidden behind a maskirovka of surplus camouflage. If so, and if it could be proved, what punishment would fit that crime?

    Every Labor and Greens MP, Senator, staffer and ALP/Greens member and Union official forced to contribute 70% of their salary and superannuation to repaying Australia’s debt until all debt has been fully repaid with interest.

  79. Leigh Lowe

    The 38% are mostly dullards like Sunshine who inherit their politics from their trailer trash parents, or the impressionable middle class kids who are indoctrinated at the feet of their Interpretive Dance lecturer at some C Grade Uni.
    No-one with an ounce of intellect or a moral compass could consider voting for the Slapper.

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