Support the battle for free speech

Posted on 12:00 pm, May 9, 2013 by Sinclair Davidson

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52 Responses to Support the battle for free speech

amcoz

#832267, posted on May 9, 2013 at 1:26 pm

I’m proud to be a member of the IPA.
Gab

#832278, posted on May 9, 2013 at 1:31 pm

It’s good the IPA doesn’t receive any government funding. I notice the Grattan Institute received $4 million from BP and $30 million from taxpayers just as start up money and yet they call themselves “independent”.
Jarrod

#832324, posted on May 9, 2013 at 1:56 pm

I see that AB and I both have a copy of Lazarus rising on our bookshelves.

I wonder if he is also stuck somewhere around 150 pages in.
Winston Smith

#832478, posted on May 9, 2013 at 3:41 pm

I’m proud to be a member of the IPA.

So am I, but I think Bolt and Abbott666 are Leftists with some redeeming features. Does this make me a bad person?
felix

#832489, posted on May 9, 2013 at 3:46 pm

While Andrew is worth his salt, it should be understood that he, like some well known radios commentators are only addressing the converted, not that that’s a bad thing. Just that we keep things in perspective.
1735099

#832515, posted on May 9, 2013 at 4:05 pm

Andrew Bolt claiming to support free speech is about as believable as the Pope coming out in support of Gay marriage.
cohenite

#832524, posted on May 9, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Andrew Bolt claiming to support free speech is about as believable as the Pope coming out in support of Gay marriage.

That’s a stupid thing to say.
Rococo Liberal

#832540, posted on May 9, 2013 at 4:35 pm

What do you expect old Numbers to say? Something sensible? Something moderate? Something intelligent?

It is Numbers’ role to be wrong in life. That is OK. If everybody’s somebody, then no-one’s anybody.
cohenite

#832555, posted on May 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Slight adjustment.

If everybody’s somebody, then ~~no-one’s~~ nobody’s anybody.

Anyway what is numbers: somebody, nobody, anybody or everybody?
Paul

#832635, posted on May 9, 2013 at 6:41 pm

Everyone is free to agree with Andrew. Everyone is free to pile on anyone who doesn’t agree with everything Andrew says, in the defense of free speech of course.
Aliice

#832649, posted on May 9, 2013 at 6:55 pm

Paul there are some serious pilers on in here.
sunshine

#832716, posted on May 9, 2013 at 7:45 pm

Bolts blog is heavily censored – end of story.
Abu Chowdah

#832762, posted on May 9, 2013 at 8:24 pm

Piles acting up again, malice?
jupes

#832768, posted on May 9, 2013 at 8:31 pm

~~Andrew Bolt claiming to support free speech is about as believable as~~ the Pope coming out in support of Gay marriage is about as believable as Numbers stating he heard the bombing in Cambodia.

FTFY Numbers.
Fisky

#832772, posted on May 9, 2013 at 8:32 pm

Bolts blog is heavily censored – end of story.

Oh, God, not another Leftist mouthbreather. You don’t actually know the definition of censorship, do you?
Monkey's Uncle

#832969, posted on May 9, 2013 at 11:13 pm

Bolts blog is heavily censored – end of story.

Oh dear. Someone else who does not understand that freedom-of-speech does not entail an obligation on others to provide a forum.
MattR

#833481, posted on May 10, 2013 at 9:03 am

Bolt’s blog is censored? How? There are leftist posts up there every single day and plenty of non-leftist posts don’t get published.

It’s not censorship, it’s lazy moderators who aren’t reading comments fast enough!

Besides, it’s his blog, he can post what he likes. You are free to start your own blog if you like. Just because nobody listen’s to you doesn’t mean you aren’t free to talk!
cohenite

#833670, posted on May 10, 2013 at 11:43 am

Bolt is excellent and I think he has finally twigged about Islam.

Some years ago he took down a post which suggested Islam, in the context of Dawkin’s Meme concept, could be compared to a virus or a disease.

I wonder if he would do so now.
steve from brisbane

#833883, posted on May 10, 2013 at 2:28 pm

I note that the last financial statement of the IPA available at their website is from 09/10, and showed an operating profit before tax of $203,000, as well as “salaries and consultancy fees” of $753,000.

The statement is dated Oct 2010.

I don’t know why 2011 or 2012 are not there.

You would think people would be more curious, but there you go…
Jarrah

#833902, posted on May 10, 2013 at 2:47 pm

“Some years ago he took down a post which suggested Islam, in the context of Dawkin’s Meme concept, could be compared to a virus or a disease.”

Of course Islam is a meme in the Dawkinsian sense. Every imitable idea is. That’s the point.
Jarrah

#833905, posted on May 10, 2013 at 2:49 pm

“Just because nobody listen’s to you doesn’t mean you aren’t free to talk!”

Thank you. Such basic concepts are lost on some people, like those who claimed Wilders was being ‘silenced’.
dover_beach

#833910, posted on May 10, 2013 at 2:56 pm

Of course Islam is a meme in the Dawkinsian sense. Every imitable idea is. That’s the point.

The idea of memes is itself a meme.
JC

#833916, posted on May 10, 2013 at 2:58 pm

They don’t make an operating profit, partridge. And if I’m not mistaken the IPA doesn’t pay income tax, you nimrod.

So basically you’re just lying then you conservative leaning catholic.
steve from brisbane

#833922, posted on May 10, 2013 at 3:04 pm

Sorry, I did actually intend to remove “operating” from that comment, got interrupted and forgot.

So, the IPA shows a profit for 09/10 of $203,000 and salaries and consultant fees of $750,000.

Happy?
Gab

#833927, posted on May 10, 2013 at 3:07 pm

Notice sfb passes no “forensic” eye over taxpayer-funded think-tanks like the grattan Institute. No, he’s more concerned about what other private citizens do with their own money. More greed and envy from the “conservative” SFB.
JC

#833937, posted on May 10, 2013 at 3:15 pm

Bolts blog is heavily censored – end of story.

The term doesn’t apply to a private blog, you idiot.

Bolt most likely doesn’t publish your comments because they’re idiotic and also possibly doesn’t lke you.

Fair dinkum, is there a leftwinger that even understands the concept of free speech.

We even had Jonathon Holmes from Media Watch indirectly bringing up Gina’s lawsuit as a free speech matter. The moron ignored the fact that the matter was even going to court for adjudication.
JC

#833940, posted on May 10, 2013 at 3:17 pm

Happy?

No dickhead. It’s not a profit. It’s an operating surplus.
JC

#833943, posted on May 10, 2013 at 3:19 pm

More greed and envy from the “conservative” SFB.

The conservative leaning catholic.
JC

#833951, posted on May 10, 2013 at 3:24 pm

Partridge

Do you even understand the concept of profit. Profit is the residual after costs such as cost of goods sold along with direct and indirect expenses are taken away from sales.

The concept applies to business entities.

Think tanks don’t account for profit, you goose. They account for the funds they receive less costs as a surplus.
cohenite

#833976, posted on May 10, 2013 at 3:45 pm

Of course Islam is a meme in the Dawkinsian sense. Every imitable idea is. That’s the point.

That’s a stupid thing to say.
Jarrah

#833996, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm

“That’s a stupid thing to say.”

No, THAT’S a stupid thing to say.
cohenite

#834006, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm

Look jarrah, the ‘echo’ response had its day in psychoanalysis and was phased out because too many therapists took on the delusions of their patients.

Assuming you are not already deluded I will explain why your comment is stupid.

Islam is NOT an imitable idea.

OK?
steve from brisbane

#834009, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:09 pm

Notice sfb passes no “forensic” eye over taxpayer-funded think-tanks like the grattan Institute. No, he’s more concerned about what other private citizens do with their own money. More greed and envy from the “conservative” SFB.

The Grattan Institute lists its corporate affiliates, and thanks them for their support, Gab.

It’s higher education program is also known to be funded by a large endowment from the Myer Foundation.

You can probably tell us how much money governments have put into it too.

You’re free to keep donating to the IPA to your heart’s content; I presume I’m also free to note that there’s a pretty big gap developing since their last financial statement showed us how much money is coming in.
Gab

#834011, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:13 pm

That’s lots of yapping from you, SFB, which you are free to do on this blog hosted by Sinclair. You’re not saying anything though, just yapping.
steve from brisbane

#834024, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm

Not very original, Gab…
Rabz

#834028, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:29 pm

The Grattan Institute lists its corporate affiliates

But doesn’t publish its annual reports or financial statements.

Funny that.
Gab

#834031, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:31 pm

It’s okay, Rabz. Whenever SFB comments on the IPA, membership increases.
JC

#834032, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:31 pm

Partridge
Unless I’m mistaken rent seeking snivelers like the Grattan institute have to publish their donor lists if they are on the hook for taxpayer funds (like the grattan institute is).

You’re okaynwitt that as a conservative leaning catholic?

Now shoo off.
steve from brisbane

#834040, posted on May 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm

I must admit I’m a bit puzzled as to why the IPA is so against the local government referendum. I see Tim Wilson and Berg have made statements/written articles against it. Julie Novak here today.

I can only guess that perhaps Gina is unhappy with her local council garbage collection service? :0

(Look, while ever the IPA keeps flogging her self interested “give Northern Australia tax breaks” scheme, I’ll keep assuming she’s influential there.)
cohenite

#834061, posted on May 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm

I must admit I’m a bit puzzled as to why the IPA is so against the local government referendum.

Local councils implement Agenda 21 policies.

If LCs are in the Constitution that policy cannot be legally challenged on the basis of Ultra Vires.
.

#834066, posted on May 10, 2013 at 5:07 pm

(Look, while ever the IPA keeps flogging her self interested “give Northern Australia tax breaks” scheme, I’ll keep assuming she’s influential there.)

You’re an imbecile Steven. If we had a greater degree of decentralisation, FNQ etc could choose to give themselves tax cuts.

This point is lost on a dim bulb like you.
Jarrah

#834130, posted on May 10, 2013 at 6:27 pm

“Islam is NOT an imitable idea.”

Stupidest thing I’ve heard all day. Do you even know what imitable means? Because if you did, you’d know that very few ideas are not imitable.

Religion is the classic example of a meme.
Jarrah

#834132, posted on May 10, 2013 at 6:30 pm

“Local councils implement Agenda 21 policies.”

Oh god, you’ve become one of the conspiracy nuts. I guess it was just a matter of time.
John Mc

#834133, posted on May 10, 2013 at 6:30 pm

I must admit I’m a bit puzzled as to why the IPA is so against the local government referendum.

F*ck you’re dumb.
dover_beach

#834154, posted on May 10, 2013 at 6:49 pm

Religion is the classic example of a meme.

Another meme.
cohenite

#834157, posted on May 10, 2013 at 6:53 pm

conspiracy nuts.

Conspiracies happen in private like when McTiernan plans the next week’s antics.

Agenda 21 is out there in the light of day for everyone to see; nothing conspiratorial about it at all; you’d have to be fucking stupid to think otherwise.

Speaking of fucking stupid, when you said imitable I reasonably concluded you were placing a value, a positive value, on islam; so let’s clarify that before we continue:

Do you think islam is a positive, that is good, beneficial, salubrious, etc, unmatcheable religious force?
jupes

#834159, posted on May 10, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Religion is the classic example of a meme.

Of course they are.

All except Catholicism which is real.
Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

#834162, posted on May 10, 2013 at 6:56 pm

Comrade Dense and Red:

Stupidest thing I’ve heard all day.

Aaaaaww, how cute.

Comrade Dense and Red is getting all excited about spelling mistakes.

Don’t get too excited, Comrade Dense and Red, you may have another unfortunate trouser accident.
dover_beach

#834163, posted on May 10, 2013 at 7:03 pm

No, jupes, the idea of memes is ridiculous. It is an all-or-nothing gambit and suffers from the same self-refuting end that the claim “There is no such thing as truth” does.
Jarrah

#834354, posted on May 10, 2013 at 10:08 pm

“Another meme.”

I suppose so. Interesting to watch you identify memes while simultaneously deriding the usefulness of the concept.

“Agenda 21 is out there in the light of day for everyone to see; nothing conspiratorial about it at all; you’d have to be fucking stupid to think otherwise.”

No, you’d have to be fucking stupid to think it’s something worth worrying about. Or just partial to conspiratorial thinking.

“when you said imitable I reasonably concluded you were placing a value, a positive value, on islam”

I can’t adjust for your ignorance, sorry.

“Do you think islam is a positive, that is good, beneficial, salubrious, etc, unmatcheable religious force?”

No.
Jarrah

#834355, posted on May 10, 2013 at 10:09 pm

“Aaaaaww, how cute. Comrade Dense and Red is getting all excited about spelling mistakes.”

What spelling mistake? I think you need new bifocals, old man.
cohenite

#835346, posted on May 11, 2013 at 6:21 pm

Agenda 21 has been around a long time.

It has a long UN pedigree, involving the usual smarmy suspects and parasites.

An interesting context for Agenda 21 is discussed in the above link with reference to a UN document called the Global Biodiversity Assessment of the State of the Earth which was prepared by the UN Environmental Programme (UNEP).

On page 863 of this tome this is said:

“the root causes of the loss of biodiversity are embedded in the way societies use resources. This world view is characteristic of large scale societies, heavily dependent on resources brought from considerable distances. It is a world view that is characterized by the denial of sacred attributes in nature, a characteristic that became firmly established about 2000 years ago with the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religious traditions. Eastern cultures with religious traditions such as Buddhism, Jainism and Hinduism did not depart as drastically from the perspective of humans as members of a community of beings including other living and non-living elements.”

I’ve always said that AGW was a religion which was in competition with the conventional religions and has attacked the main conventional religions from day 1.

A pox on all their houses; and a pox on you too jarrah, you arrogant shit.