Showing contempt for the electorate – one last time

So Rob Oakeshott and Tony Windsor are retiring from politics before they are retired. Says it all really. It has been beautiful in its ugliness – exactly as Oakeshott predicted. What I find most interesting is that he expected something different – a return to gentleman politics of the 19th century perhaps where ideas and ideals were debated in the drawing room over glasses of port, or something.

So one part of me thinks that he should have the decency to run again and face the music, while another part of me thinks he should run away and stop wasting everyone’s time. It could be more mundane, running for office costs money and who would finance either Oakeshott or Windsor now?

Just to remind ourselves – if you can bear it.

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159 Responses to Showing contempt for the electorate – one last time

  1. Fleeced

    Windsor insisting he could would win if he ran… lying douchebag.

  2. Andrew

    If I may quote Gough Whitlam, “Maintain the rage”.

  3. Infidel Tiger

    Two of the most disgusting human beings in Australian history. Hopefully the are pelted with cow shit wherever they travel.

  4. Angus Black

    At last. And I could use a bit of landfill right now.

  5. Splatacrobat

    Koolaid sales ramp up. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rudd camp join the koolaid party if they do not go through with the leadership spill. Mass exodus from all the ruddites not bothering to even contest.

  6. Bazza

    And isn’t Sky News giving them full voice. Gilbert, Speers and Lipson what suckholes. Speers was doing his utmost last night to create a furore out of 7 Coalition Senators crossing the floor on the Referendum bill.

  7. Robbo

    Spineless and incompetent. What a double for that awful double. However if you are interested in another view then go and have a read of the comments in The Guardian. It is a sheltered workshop for the few remaining Labor supporters in Australia and they are very easy to provoke. For those with some time on their hands it is very entertaining sport.

  8. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Oneshott is a lunatic who appeared to believe he was doing good work – he nonetheless deserves swift flushing from the bowl without sympathy, the gutless turd.

    Windsor however is as cynical a participant as you will find. He knew at every step exactly what he was doing, why and who he was exercising revenge upon. He is a low mongrel dog.

    They’ll both live miserable lives because they will forever be reminded about the evil they have done.

  9. Matt

    Firstly – obviously private polling must indicate they are shot ducks, else they would both run again,

    Secondly – the timing of the announcement, and the hint that they may support a no-confidence motion, has quite clearly been co-ordinated with the Prime Minister’s Office to head off the Rudd challenge.

  10. inedible hyperbowl

    Experience of restaurant kitchens makes me think these two should never again order soup or stew.

  11. And in other great news on this beautiful day – professional faux-naif and ABC-indulged public nuisance Andrew Denton has also retired.

    Now that’s entertainment.

  12. Pickles

    Hopefully these two will get a traditional Butchers Sendoff.

    Shove a leg of mutton up their arses and sool a pack of starving camp dogs onto them.

  13. Matt

    I note Wilkie still plans to run again. His polling must be better than Dumb and Dumber’s …

  14. Andore Jr.

    they may support a no-confidence motion, has quite clearly been co-ordinated with the Prime Minister’s Office to head off the Rudd challenge.

    Like Bolt has always said – do you really think they’d just hand it to Abbott and the coalition?
    Rudd should call the fucker’s bluff, make them sweat one last time.

  15. Matt

    Like Bolt has always said – do you really think they’d just hand it to Abbott and the coalition?

    No – Windsor and Oakeshott loathe the Coalition – but the threat is enough to put some doubt into some of Rudd’s potential backers.

  16. Bruce

    Lot of new immigrants to Ecuador coming their way. Maybe they can use ex-Indonesian boats which the Navy would no doubt lend to them.

  17. Up The Workers!

    I wonder whether “All Piss’n Windsor” and Baldric Oakeshott will be donating their carcasses to medical science when they expire?

    I imagine that anthropologists (not to mention A.L.P. apologists) will want to make detailed studies of history’s only known instance of rats deliberately swimming out against the tide; boarding a sinking ship, and then keeping it afloat (though Rudderless) for 3 agonizingly long years.

    Even Bob Brown, acting against type, had the good sense to dive overboard ages ago.

  18. Andore Jr.

    but the threat is enough to put some doubt into some of Rudd’s potential backers.

    Alternatively, it could play right into their hands. Rudd back at the top, and an election called in the middle of his popularity ‘sugar hit’?

  19. Popular Front

    I always thought that bastard Windsor would bottle it when push really came to shove.

  20. tbh

    Well what a surprise, Windsor gone too. Do these people think we’re idiots?

  21. Helen Armstrong

    Christ it has been a long time. Inexorably sloth like in it’s slowness, and the closer we get to the – it seems inevitable conclusion, the slower it goes.

  22. Infidel Tiger

    Turncoats and now cowards. In a properly ordered society they’d hang themselves in the ladies lavatories with a borrowed necktie.

  23. Helen Armstrong

    election called in the middle of his popularity ‘sugar hit’?

    That will happen anyhow, if Rudd is back in. He will call an election immediately. He cannot risk the electorate being reminded of how nauseatingly bloody boring he was/is to listen to.

    But it wont be Rudd. If there is a vote tomorrow, I think it is more likely to be Shorten in a three way contest. Reluctant saviour and all that.

    PS how do you do paragraphs in this new format?

  24. Helen Armstrong

    Disregard question above – some kind of black magic where preview has no relation to actual, LOL

  25. C.L.

    The turd is going out with a lie: namely, that if Gillard is dumped, he’ll back Abbott on the floor.

    No.

    He won’t.

  26. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Alternatively, it could play right into their hands. Rudd back at the top, and an election called in the middle of his popularity ‘sugar hit’?”

    The problem for Labor’s lever pullers, Andore Jr, is that they too will have noticed the “sugar hit” comes from swarms of adoring schoolgirls fawning over him during his shopping centre walks who are too young to vote.

  27. C.L.

    I was glad to see Windsor blubbing like a woman at the end.

  28. A Lurker

    Unless a mutant-star goat consumes the Earth in the next few weeks, the Coalition is now pretty much assured electoral victory.

    So with Rudd and Gillard circling and snarling at each other like rabid junkyard dogs, and the rest of Labor caucus either scrambling to hide in the shadows, writing out their political wills, or offloading their cash into offshore bank accounts and purchasing one-way tickets out of Australia – just who exactly will be left to vote for them.

    Katter and Palmer might just well find themselves with more votes than they expect – from those who have given up on Labor, but refuse to vote Conservative. The even more deranged will remain with the Greens.

    And as for Labor? Will they be utterly demolished? This voter hopes so – in order that something better, decent, honourable, and moral is rebuilt upon their ashes- but in order to do so, Labor will need to purge itself of unwholesome narcissists like Rudd, wanna-be Communists and Totalitarians like Conroy, and Union thugs like Shorten. Frankly I can’t see anyone within their ranks adult enough to take on this task – so let’s let Labor die so a new party, the DLP perhaps, can move into the Centre-Left position.

  29. Fleeced

    Oneshott is a lunatic who appeared to believe he was doing good work – he nonetheless deserves swift flushing from the bowl…

    Like this?

  30. Lloyd

    Turncoats and now cowards. In a properly ordered society they’d hang themselves in the ladies lavatories with a borrowed necktie.

    Make it a blue one.

  31. Myrrdin Seren

    If Oakeshott has any contact with reality remaining, he should pack his family in to a motorhome after the election is called, and flee in the middle of the night to a safe haven refuge, like Bob Katter’s seat.

    He is arguably so delusional, I suspect you will still see him poncing around Port Macquarie waiting for directorships and honorary positions to flow his way.

    The stocks and an endless supply of rotten fruit to throw at him would be more appropriate.

  32. Andore Jr.

    the “sugar hit” comes from swarms of adoring schoolgirls fawning over him during his shopping centre walks who are too young to vote

    I wouldn’t discount Rudd’s popularity strategy entirely. The 7:30 Project (or 6:30, or whatever the fuck it’s called now) is still on TV – within hours, Rudd will be back on to field the most limpest lettuce-leaf interrogation this side of Kerry O’Brien

  33. And Another Thing

    Look, it hasn’t been beautiful in it’s ugliness, it’s just been ugly. On the run or not, it would be better if these clowns disappeared from public view as soon as possible.

  34. Vicki

    Oakeshott had the audacity to actually convey to the Port Macquarie News his contempt for the majority opinion in his electorate:

    “For some reason the parliament and the Australian community decided to shoot for the lowest values and the worst ideas. What I thought were fringe-dwellers in the public square have somehow found a way to be mainstream. What are we doing?”

    In the same vein he told Fran Baily on Radio National that he could not support either Rudd or Abbott since neither had laid their policies before him in parliament.

    The country is far too small for this man’s ego.

  35. Cold-Hands

    go and have a read of the comments in The Guardian. It is a sheltered workshop for the few remaining Labor supporters in Australia and they are very easy to provoke.

    You can get the same blinkered viewpoint through listening to talkback on ABC Local radio. FMD, a caller on 774 just praised Windsor as a principled politician. Utterly clueless. He obviously was ignorant of Windsor’s propensity to spout baseless smears using parliamentary privilege.

  36. sabrina

    Sinclair – most politicians are self-serving. It is good at least that these two gentlemen have decided not to contest so the cost of election in those two seats will now be minimum, the results being well known.
    It is far better than those who relinquish their seats immediately after election, triggering by-election. Peter Costello did it, many others did it, and I will not be surprised if some of the surviving Labor members do the same. This practice should stop. Hope the incoming LNP government will introduce some refrom, but fingers crossed when it comes to politcians of any persuasion.

  37. Pauly

    a return to gentleman politics of the 19th century perhaps where ideas and ideals were debated in the drawing room over glasses of port, or something.

    We could have done with a refined 19th century Gentleman like Andrew Jackson who would have dealt with Oakeshotte and Windsor with horsewhip and pistol.

  38. stackja

    Three candidates “Ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall cross-benches,
    Ninety-nine bottles of beer.
    Take one two down, pass it around out the parliament door,
    Two other candidates Ninety-eight bottles of beer on the cross-benches.”

  39. This is significant for the Nationals. Barnaby Joyce will win New England easily now (I think he would have beaten Windsor anyway, but now there’s no contest). He has aspirations to take over from Truss and if he succeeds, as I think he will, he will be Deputy PM under Abbott. That could have quite far-reaching consequences.

  40. inedible hyperbowl

    Masochistic tendencies caused me to have a look at the comments on the Age’s pulse.
    There was a continuous stream of comments praising the great work of Windsor and Oakshott and objecting to the vast amount of vitriolic abuse in the comment stream.
    Clearly the editors are busy removing any comment that does not praise the “good” work of these two. The idiots have removed the negative comments but not the references to them.
    The Age shows an even greater contempt for the electorate.

  41. Gnome

    Hey Up the Workers (10.53)

    Do you think those pissy little scalpels the medical researchers use would be able to get through hides that thick?

  42. Andrew

    Katter is now calling for a spill.

  43. Leo G

    If Tony Windsor’s loyalty to Julia Gillard is a consequence of his formal agreement with her- as he has repeatedly claimed- then why has he signalled that he will support a no-confidence motion against the government when she is removed as leader (and the agreement is consequently voided)?

  44. Jannie

    Well its all good news anyway. The conmen have been outed, they got caught double dealing and have had to leave the game before they got booted out, or worse. No spin can change that they have been defeated by their own duplicity, and the meaning of the code “Retiring to spend more time with family” is universally understood.

  45. Viva

    Experience of restaurant kitchens makes me think these two should never again order soup or stew.

    Especially not Brown Windsor Soup

  46. Katter is now calling for a spill.

    Katter has hitched his wagon to Labor. He doesn’t want to ride it over a cliff. I don’t think anyone cares what he thinks though.

  47. Steve of Glasshouse

    And breaking news, Katter has thrown his support behind Kevni..

  48. DavidW

    No! Sorry but I can’t bear it. I am sure I would slit my wrists if I had to watch is again.
    Maybe that could be used effectively as an instrument of torture!

  49. .

    sabrina WTF #902119, posted on June 26, 2013 at 11:30 am
    Sinclair – most ALL politicians are self-serving. It is good at least that these two gentlemen CURS have decided not to contest so the cost of election in those two seats will now be minimum, the results being well known DECIDED LONG AGO.
    It is WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR BETTER than those who IF THE TWO CURS relinquishED their seats immediately AFTER THE 2010 ELECTION. after election, triggering by-election.

    Peter Costello WHO WAS NOTHING LIKE THESE BRAIN DEAD MOOCHERS did it, many others did it, RESIGNED AFTER HIS PARTY LOST A GENERAL ELECTION and I will not be surprised if some of the surviving Labor members PERSONS OF INTEREST do the same. This practice should stop CONTINUE UNTIL THE ALP IS WIPED FROM THE HOUSE AND SENATE. Hope the incoming LNP government will introduce some refrom, but fingers crossed when it comes to politcians of any persuasion A ROYAL COMMISSION INTO THE CORRUPTION AND CRIMINALITY OF THE ALP, UNIONS AND THE GREENS.

  50. Ant

    It’s hard to fathom the damage these two characters have done to this great country.

    Every single Gillard disaster since 2010 – from the incredibly stupid and inept knitted kangaroo farce, to the monumentally damaging Carbon Tax, to the deadly asylum sneaker circus, to the billions flushed away on junk ideas – can be sheeted home to these two individuals.

    I don’t like swearing on blogs but on this occassion I’ll make a special exception.

    These two men are flat out fucking bastards.

    And it sickens my gut to know that my taxes will be funding their fat superannuations until their stinking carcasses are buried 6ft under.

  51. Kruddler

    clowns, the lot of them.

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A return to 19th century politics – Gentlemen did not horsewhip anyone in the street. Gentlemen offered a challenge to a duel, to demand satisfaction. If the challenged declined a duel, you sent your grooms and stablehands to horsewhip him in the street.

  53. .

    Ant,

    Hence why you must always absolutely minimise your tax burden to the max.

  54. Tom

    The new Member for Lyne, David Gillespie:

    “As I’ve been doing since last July, I will continue to work tirelessly to make sure that the people of the Mid North Coast have a seat at the table of the next Nationals and Liberal federal government.”

    The new Member for New England, Barnaby Joyce:

    If he wins the seat, Senator Joyce will be in line to take over from Warren Truss as Leader of the Nationals and become Deputy Prime Minister under an Abbott government.

  55. Pedro

    Windsor has been a dreadful sell-out to his electorate and a complete shocker and egomaniac, but he might be sick, not unusual at his age, and, until shown otherwise, common decency requires that you don’t bag him on that account.

  56. .

    Common decency?

    What about his allegations about Vaile?

  57. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    No Pedro, you are wrong. Common decency would have been for Windsor to actually represent the overwhelming conservative nature of his constituency, not to assist the antithesis form government.
    Not only has he wilfully deceived his electorate, he has used his position to slander his opponents.
    He deserves all ill wishes that come his way.

  58. pete m

    Bugger off Pedro – no-one has bagged him due to his illness.

    We’re just glad he is gone and lamenting his woeful choice to side with Gillard which was contrary to all good reason and led to the worst government in our history.

    Forgive us our anger.

  59. Uber

    The real story is that Windsor will support Abbott over Rudd and we may well soon have a change of government.

  60. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    Bugger off Pedro – no-one has bagged him due to his illness.

    Nah, I did pete m.
    I said that I hoped that he died a long and painful death as punishment for his sins.

  61. Rohan

    79 sleeps till September 14. Getting excited now.

  62. MT Isa Miner

    see my comment on the other thread Pedro, the gossip I heard was that Windsor has had Parkinson’s disease for a while ,which is personally tragic , but I still thought the Libs should have gone for him for being mentally unfit.

  63. Myrrdin Seren

    Mt Isa Miner

    I don’t think any of the parties dare open the can of worms about mental competence to sit in Parliament – too many nutballs in all their ranks.

  64. inedible hyperbowl

    The big question.
    Will JG summon Tony to provide the court with a character reference?

  65. blogstrop

    Whether he’s sick or not is of no concern.
    His betrayal of his electorate and the nation is something he should feel badly about if he was an honest man. But his ongoing hate campaign leads me to conclude that he’s not. He’s a noxious weed, and even more despicable than the doofus he teamed up with. He knew exactly what he was doing, while his dumb sidekick showed no insight into anything at all, from start to finish. Just a tool.

  66. jupes

    The real story is that Windsor will support Abbott over Rudd and we may well soon have a change of government.

    Won’t matter. That other talentless, unethical boofhead from Queensland says he will support Rudd.

  67. JMH

    Petition = Spill happening today. The next resignation will be the Lying Slapper’s. There is no way she will contest her seat if Kevni gets the nod. Let’s hope the Victoria Police hasten their investigation and get it over with before the year is out.

    Champagne on ice!

  68. C.L.

    common decency

    Just like Windsor showed to the Anderson family by accusing their husband and father of being a bribe-offering criminal under parliamentary privilege – a charge never repeated outside of the Parliament and found to be a lie by the Federal Police.

  69. Andore Jr.

    Windsor will support Abbott over Rudd

    An outright bluff. Rudd should call him on it.

  70. Gab

    Petition = Spill happening today. The next resignation will be the Lying Slapper’s

    Noooooooooooooo. I want to have the pleasure of turfing her out.

    Besides. if she goes, the love meeja will harp on and on about her not getting the “clear air” she needed to sell her “reforms”.

  71. jupes

    Let’s hope the Victoria Police hasten their investigation and get it over with before the year century is out.

    A more realistic hope.

  72. JMH

    I will be seriously disappointed too, Gab. My bat has been receiving a good waxing weekly! Doesn’t matter much now as the Nats have gained two seats in NSW today anyway! It’s almost over red rover!

  73. Andore Jr.

    the love meeja will harp on and on about her not getting the “clear air” she needed to sell her “reforms”

    They’ll be too busy spruiking Kevin O Lemon as Lazarus Rising

  74. jupes

    Noooooooooooooo. I want to have the pleasure of turfing her out.

    Don’t we all Gab. Let’s hope she stays otherwise the people of Lynn and New England will have been dudded twice.

  75. Andore Jr.

    Surely Rudd knows that he’s been handed the steering wheel to an upturned Titanic.

    I hope he goes full-on Lando Calrissian / Millenium Falcon and blows this piece of shit party up from the inside out.

  76. Bill

    Looks like its Peak Popcorn tomorrow or Friday. Beautiful in its ugliness!

  77. jupes

    I hope he goes full-on Lando Calrissian / Millenium Falcon and blows this piece of shit party up from the inside out.

    I hope they do what Janet Albrechtsen recommends and sack his arse from the Labor Party. As to what happens to Labor after that, I couldn’t care less as long as they stay out of government.

  78. Tom

    OZ:

    OPPONENTS of Julia Gillard have begun circulating a petition to force a leadership spill of the Labor party tomorrow morning.

    The primary aim of this ploy — as the rabble have tried to do all along — is to deny the electorate the opportunity to fix this mess before the date designated by the unions.

  79. From Christine Milne:

    “Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott have dedicated themselves to the interests of their electorates over a long period of time and have done a fantastic job representing their local communities at a federal level,” Greens Leader Senator Christine Milne said.

    “There is no doubt they have both played a significant role in ensuring the stability and productivity of this 43rd parliament.

    “I particularly want to thank Tony Windsor for having the vision and tenacity to support the establishment of the Clean Energy Package which he has described as his greatest achievement.

    “I congratulate Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott on their achievements and wish them all the best for life after politics.”

    Says it all really.

  80. Oh come on

    It’s a great pity that we were denied the spectacle of them both copping a flogging at the ballot box. Still, look on the bright side. If they fall on their swords, there’s no chance of one of them clinching an upset win. Oakeshott in particular seems to have a reasonable base of support in his electorate. There was a slim chance a favourable preference flow from the ALP candidate could have carried him over the line.

  81. braddles

    Gillard might even pick up some votes if she can act decisively and have Rudd expelled from the Labor Party, as long as she can explain why it was necessary.

  82. sunshine

    Despite all the opinion saying a hung parliament could not last 3 years or get anything done – it has . They are not as rare or weird or illegitimate as some say . . Also Abbott promised ‘a kinder gentler polity’ 3 years ago – liar !

  83. Gab

    Yeah, luv, it hasn’t been a hung parliament for three years.

  84. Leigh Lowe

    Windsor has got unidentified health issues, eh?
    I sincerely hope it is nothing trivial.

  85. Ant

    Apologies for the swearing above. I just can’t stand it.

    The Oakshott/Windsor episode is a perfect demonstration of “democratic tyranny” in action. (A term often used by the US’s great Mark Levin to describe what’s going on there.)

    Both of these FBs won their respective elections in very conservative electorates touting themselves as conservatives only to then do the exact opposite of what a big majority of their constituents wanted.

    Now realising that their electorates are on the verge of delivering their verdict, they run off laughing with their fat taxpayer funded superannuations, all smug and denying the truth behind what they did to the rest of us.

    Representative government can’t work like this without public trust being severely underminded and the democratic process being damaged.

    There has to be some recourse for ‘we the people’ where we can punish politicians who behave like this.

    Losing an election or quitting parliament is hardly enough, when the perps suffer no direct financial consequences.

    In business it would be regarded as an effective breach of contract and you would be strife.

    In politics it’s still breaching the ‘agreement’ with your constituents but the consequences are basically zero.

  86. sunshine

    As Windsor says – if country people always guarantee support to only one side then they will be taken for granted by both sides . He is the most widely respected member of parliament amongst political journalists for good reason .

  87. Empire Strikes Back

    In the national interest, the caucus must support TLS.

    Me being Australian and a cricket tragic, I canvassed a seppo friend last weekend about baseball bats. She recommended wood for games and aluminium for self defence, so I purchased an aluminium bat on her recommendation.

    If TLS doesn’t lead the ALP to a shameful defeat on 14 September, I will have wasted $39.97 that could otherwise have been paid as voluntary income tax and spent on something important like an espresso machine for education bureaucrats or a pay rise for our hard working selfless elected representatives.

    It just isn’t right I tell ya, I will not be denied.

  88. steve of glasshouse

    Sunshine..I’m glad solar panels don’t have to work on your diminshed luminosity

  89. Up The Workers!

    Too true, David Leyonhjelm.

    The Brown Movement will never be hygienically flushed out of our system while Christine Milne and Sarah Halfwit-Bung continue to draw a Parliamentary salary.

    Roll on, September 14, when we give them the first flush. (We will need either a double dissolution or the NEXT Senate election before we can complete the job).

    Isn’t it ironic that Juliar’s electorate of Lalor, incorporates the Werribee Sewage Treatment Farm.
    The way Parliament has been conducted by her and her colleagues over the last 3 years, it’s almost as though she has used the place as a trade display from her electorate.

  90. Empire Strikes Back

    He is the most widely respected member of parliament amongst political journalists for good reason .

    Says who? Besides which, political journalists (on average) are a lower form of earth cretin than politicians themselves. Hardly the sort of referees his constituents would value Sunshine.

  91. jupes

    He is the most widely respected member of parliament amongst political journalists for good reason .

    Come up with your own routine Sunshine, that’s Hammy’s shtick.

  92. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    Fuck off sunshine.

  93. Ant

    He is the most widely respected member of parliament amongst political journalists for good reason.

    As long as he has press gallery admiration, that’s all you need? Man, you’re so easy and cheap to please.

    What about the voters in his electorate? How much would they respect him? I think his cowardice today answers that central question.

  94. Ant

    Paul Kelly:

    “THE latest and last chapter of the Gillard-Rudd leadership crisis is demoralising not just because of its longevity but because it is exclusively driven by polls and is devoid of any idea, policy or direction for the nation’s future.

    This crisis is a parade of Labor’s obsessions. It is about Labor’s interests, needs, personalities, hatreds and quest to ameliorate public responsibility for its collective blunders in office.”

    And that sums it up.

    The real crime, however, is that they do it with our money.

  95. Bruce

    Simon Benson says the petition has the numbers and Rudd will challenge tomorrow morning.

    Not interested in the job anymore, huh?

  96. jupes

    Paul Kelly:

    Has done as much as any journalist to cover up the shortfalls of these two clowns and only when reality bashes him over the head does he ever write a sentence that conveys anything like the truth about the shambles the rest of us have been watching since 2007.

  97. duncanm

    At least there’s light at the end of the tunnel.

    Oakeshott and Windsor can be proud of the fact they will help banish the ALP to the federal wilderness for many many years.

  98. Ant

    Whatever happens, if Rudd wins it and is reinstated the media class will mobilise behind Labor and do their utmost to minimise the damage to their party. And they’ll start by targetting Tony Abbott and try and make him the issue.

    Their reflexive and visceral hatred of Abbott simply leaves them no option.

  99. caveman

    This is just one piss take on the Australian people , listening to both these fuktards talk about respect and honor they dont know what this means. Gillard , Rudd, Shorten or whoever stands the fuk for this retardo party will feel the full fury of my vote ninja style.

  100. Ant

    jupes, you are 100% correct and I agree.

    His piece today, however, is a good one, as was his performance on QandA last week.

    The press gallery during the Rudd and Gillard years, including the lead up to Howard’s ousting, has been a complete disgrace. Nothing demonstrates this better than their support of the ETS & Carbon Tax (which really was treasonous, given the lies they constantly brushed over to get the policy implemented – Kelly included) and their support of changes to asylum sneaker laws, which border on murderous, no less.

  101. Felicity

    Do you think TLS might trot across the road and have the GG call the writs this afternoon

  102. Ant

    OK, murderous is a bit strong, but it certainly was criminally negligent.

    If I was an employer and I knew my workplace was hazardous and one of my people was killed as a result of those hazards, I would rightly be prosecuted, face huge fines and maybe jail.

    Labor does this as a matter of policy and the press swooned at how compassionate they were. Retarded thinking at its lowest.

  103. Ant

    Question: How bad must Rudd be that, even with the polls showing a complete and utter electoral catastrophe in September, he is finding Gillard impossible to move by the people who know him best?

    Another question: How can somebody so despised in public office manage to maintain such a relatively nice persona in the eyes of the general public? He didn’t turn into an SOB overnight once he became PM. He raced up the ranks of the Labor Party carrying all his behavioural baggage with him. And what’s it say about our media that he could get so high in office without the truth coming out?

  104. Empire Strikes Back

    Do you think TLS might trot across the road and have the GG call the writs this afternoon

    Not beyond the realm of possibility. I don’t think caucus would depose her tomorrow if she had visited the GG today. A nice quick 5 week campaign and see you later motors. I like it.

  105. A Lurker

    Do you think TLS might trot across the road and have the GG call the writs this afternoon.

    Faced with being ousted by the hated Rudd, or faced with being ousted by the hated Australian electorate, I reckon the writs scenario is on the money.

    Also, doesn’t she get more money if she loses the election as PM than as a lowly backbencher, or even if she has a dummy spit and resigns.

  106. Grumbles

    Just a small point, but the election has not yet been called, and despite all acting like we are headed towards a firm date any change in leadership could see it shortened or worse extended well past Christmas.

  107. jupes

    How can somebody so despised in public office manage to maintain such a relatively nice persona in the eyes of the general public?

    The general public are idiots.

    And what’s it say about our media that he could get so high in office without the truth coming out?

    The media are scum.

  108. Ros

    It has probably been discussed and I missed it, if so apologies.

    What happens to Swan if Rudd elected Leader, does he stay Treasurer, do all Ministers keep their positions. Peter Garrett has stated very firmly he won’t serve under Rudd, and considering how Rudd made him the scapegoat for Rudd’s incompetence don’t blame him. So will a range of Ministers have to be sworn in, and if the GG has declared caretaker mode can this happen. What are the ramifications other than who is PM and by what power as the result of a leadership spill now. Will we in effect be without a government as we understand it.

  109. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    And more slime oozes toward the exit

  110. Cold-Hands

    Under the rules Rudd managed to have approved once he became PM, the incumbent PM has full control over who holds the spoils of office. If Rudd regains the top job, Swan is not guaranteed anything. It’s a blank page, with Rudd free to reward his supporters and payback his foes.

  111. Bill

    I think the election has to be held by Nov 30.

  112. candy

    “What happens to Swan if Rudd elected Leader, does he stay Treasurer,”‘

    Ros, that’s what I always wonder. No use Rudd and Swan pretending to be mates, and the ministries would be in shambles. How do the Rudd supporters get over that scenario?

  113. .

    What happens to Swan if Rudd elected Leader, does he stay Treasurer, do all Ministers keep their positions. Peter Garrett has stated very firmly he won’t serve under Rudd, and considering how Rudd made him the scapegoat for Rudd’s incompetence don’t blame him. So will a range of Ministers have to be sworn in, and if the GG has declared caretaker mode can this happen. What are the ramifications other than who is PM and by what power as the result of a leadership spill now. Will we in effect be without a government as we understand it.

    There may be some two termers etc who want to resign on a Minesterial pension, not a Parliamentary pension.

    Holy shit these are interesting times.

  114. jupes

    It’s a blank page, with Rudd free to reward his supporters and payback his foes.

    Yea, nah.

    He has to be appointed PM by the GG first. He can do that by a confidence motion or by getting the cross benchers to sign a document saying they will support him.

    In other words when he wins the caucus ballot he won’t automatically become PM.

  115. WhaleHunt Fun

    Hilarious. Rudd having to rely on cowards and craven fools.
    More fun than listening to ingrates whining about the impolite guards in Indonesia.

  116. Felicity

    Just watching APAC they are appearing more and more like nasty angry children that know their favourite toys are about to be taken, the body language is eloquent, especially Swan

  117. WhaleHunt Fun

    ” Will we in effect be without a government as we understand it.”
    Have been since 2007

  118. Felicity

    Given that the Gillard govt is spending 22mil on advertising rebranding the NDIS as Disability Care you would think labor ministers would not be calling it the NDIS none other than Macklin so far is using the name Disability Care in public speech.

  119. Gab

    I like “DisabilityCare”. It reinforces that it’s a scheme which is a disability to carers.

  120. sunshine

    Fuck off sunshine.

    Chill out man life’s to short to harbor such anger and hatred

  121. Felicity

    Let me assure you Gab no one in the disability community likes it, there was no consultation on the name change, and Disability Care implemented by the current government will not be anything like the productivity commision’s recommendation

  122. Gab

    Heh, I am under no illusion gillard ever consulted with carers on any aspect of the NDIS.

  123. Felicity

    Oh like she said today in Parli she and her govt have been acting and yes there was consultation that was so swift if you blinked you would have missed it and the result were promptly filed

  124. Paul CO

    Windsor said in his sanctimonious claptrap resignation speech that only 14 people from his electorate had taken issue with him about supporting Labor. Well here’s a comment from someone outside his electorate (who has still of course been negatively effected by this disastrous government).

    Windsor, you are a despicable excuse for a parliamentarian. You stood under false pretences and thought the story was about you. You now deprive the electorate of the chance to show their judgement of you. I truly hope the co-alition whitewash will last long enough to make backstabbers like you irrelevant.

    Congratulations Barnaby on your gutsy move to the lower house. Win and win well.

  125. Felicity

    OMG Albersleazy is harping on about the ditch the witch signs, desperation

  126. south

    Oakshitt was right about one thing: it is indeed “beautiful in its ugliness.” I haven’t enjoyed politics this much since late 1975, and I was only a toddler then.

  127. .

    Chill out man life’s to short to harbor such anger and hatred

    Can you stop trying to steal more money off working people through Government programmes then? Thanks.

  128. Leigh Lowe

    Just a small point, but the election has not yet been called, and despite all acting like we are headed towards a firm date any change in leadership could see it shortened or worse extended well past Christmas.

    No.
    November is the latest I believe.

  129. inedible hyperbowl

    OMG Albersleazy is harping on about the ditch the witch signs, desperation

    I much preferred “Dump the frump!”

  130. egg_

    Simon Benson says the petition has the numbers and Rudd will challenge tomorrow morning.

    Not interested in the job anymore, huh?

    /sarc

    Yup, yours truly’s been saying so for a fortnight, writing’s been on the wall, methinks most cat’s have just hoped it wasn’t so.

  131. jupes

    Chill out man life’s to short to harbor such anger and hatred

    Sunshine’s swapped the Hammy routine for the stoned hippy routine.

    C’mon maaaaan, can’t you come up with something original?

  132. Huckleberry Chunkwot

    Chill out man life’s to short to harbor such anger and hatred

    No, fuck off sunshine.

  133. Felicity

    Jokeshots valedictory is coming up that’s the end of parli for today given how long winded he has shown to be

  134. Dr Faustus

    Will we in effect be without a government as we understand it.

    We’ve been without a government as I understand it for what seems like an eternity.

    Irrespective of the score tomorrow, a tumescent Rudd will be in a position to pick and choose as he sees fit. He will be in full 24/7 authoritarian mode all the way to the election (whenever that may be) – no time for Mr I-learned-how-to-be-touchy-feely-in-the-Wilderness. He’s here by popular request to save the Party, not make amends.

    Swan, Garret, Conroy and the rest of the hapless rabble will either have to fit in where they are told by Mr Get It Fuk’n Done, or face being front and center of the post-Apocalypse ALP blame-game. Stalking off for a spot of back bench sniping will not be an option with 3 to 5 months to an election and the press giving Rudd a tongue bath.

    As someone once said, “Beautiful in it’s ugliness

  135. Andore Jr.

    He will be in full 24/7 authoritarian mode all the way to the election

    Isn’t that what got him shafted in the first place?

    Honestly, how in God’s name can Rudd head an election campaign with any shred of authenticity?

    “You voted for me in 2007, during which my party pulled the ole’ ‘Bait ‘n’ Switch’ and put in who they REALLY wanted in charge. But now, I’m head of the party again and I promisepromisepromise that they won’t do it again!”

  136. Andore Jr.

    Rudd’s victory speech tomorrow:

    A) “We are a good government that lost its way. Again.”

    B) “We are a good government that lost its way. Then found it. Then lost it again. Now we found it. I think.”

    C) “It’s time for the REAL Julia – Kevin Rudd – me – the whole time! Can you believe that?”

  137. Bill

    If the Ruddster gets her, she’ll take the Mummyblogger vote with her.

    That leaves them with nothing.

  138. jupes

    Rudd’s victory speech tomorrow:

    LOL Andore Jr.

    On a serious note, what can he say about TLS?

    If he praises her, then he looks like a lying buffoon – which he would be.

    If he bags her, then he looks like a vindictive prick – which he is.

    Maybe he just won’t mention her …

  139. Steve of Glasshouse

    Dr Faustus..a tumescent Rudd ? He’ll be in a state of priapism for months..

  140. Dr Faustus

    Honestly, how in God’s name can Rudd head an election campaign with any shred of authenticity?

    In the same way a brick glides.

  141. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Ballot at 7pm tonight

  142. Ros

    If the Ruddster gets her, she’ll take the Mummyblogger vote with her.

    It will be interesting to see how they would spin the narrative that Gillard was a great PM brought down by misogyny, as a result of which they have had to dismiss her as PM.

    And how the Insiders will spin their narrative that what we should all be talking about is policy, with what? If Rudd gets up will it be new policy which they won’t be able to get costed in time for the election. Will the pundits demand of Rudd proof of integrity by giving the Australian people details of policy fully costed prior to the election.

    Ha, she is going for it tonight.

  143. This scumbag HAD to get out whilst Gillard is still in the position to pay his 30 pieces of silver.
    And, also, he knew that here in the New England, he is despised and could never win again.

  144. Helen Armstrong

    who ever looses, leaves parliament, gillard said according to ALPBC

  145. Felicity

    She says that if she loses the ballot she will leave parliament at the election, she wont be the only one

  146. stackja

    Surely Rudd knows that he’s been handed the steering wheel to an upturned Titanic.

    Or another ship:

    The Poseidon Adventure (1972 film)
    That evening, New Year’s Eve, passengers gather in the dining room to celebrate. Harrison is called to the bridge because of a report of an undersea earthquake. He receives word from the lookout that there is a huge wave coming from the direction of Crete at 60 mph. He issues a mayday and commands a “hard left” turn, but it is too late. The wave hits the ship and it capsizes.

  147. jupes

    Good article by Paul Sheehan on the vile pair.

  148. Felicity

    Windsor will vote with Abbott if Rudd gets in, he is dropping hints in his speech and also his interview with Sky, I think either way tomorrow we will have a firm election date

  149. Abu Chowdah

    Tony Windsor, as suspected, confirms he is an opportunistic COWARD.

  150. Bill

    But Katter will support Rudd. Wilkie might support Abbott. Oakeshott who knows? Slipper will support Rudd to eke out a few more months of travel, taxis and pension.

    Now its getting unpredictable in its ugliness, (with apologies to the Member for Lyne).

  151. JMH

    What a tangled web they weave. After 7pm tonight all that putrid air will be gone – LOL. Now, if either/or opt to honour their commitment to resign from Parliament after the ballot – what happens then? A vacant seat until the election? I think we may well see that No Confidence motion moved tomorrow!

    I wonder if Lurch et al will flounce tonight as well – should Kevni have the numbers.

    I honestly cannot begin to fathom the abject stupidity of this federal Labor rabble. I am shaking my head in sheer disbelief.

  152. Makka

    Ok, so tonight we know who of these 2 starts drawing on their pension courtesy of us taxpayers.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4oUYW2xZo&feature=player_embedded

    Meanwhile, a peek at what the LNP are ready to unleash. I like the role red underpants plays in this little piece.

  153. sunshine

    I am struggling to see the beauty in this ugliness . I think they just need to get decimated at the election and rebuild- get on with it . This lack of a contest of political ideas is killing the market for economic and social development . Congratulations Tony, Gina and Rupert. What comes next ?

  154. Tel

    What I find most interesting is that he expected something different – a return to gentleman politics of the 19th century perhaps where ideas and ideals were debated in the drawing room over glasses of port, or something.

    But they could have had that if they wanted it. All they had to do was start walking towards the other side of the house when things started to get dumbarse. Any time they could have done that. The real problem is that Windsor and Oakshott don’t actually know enough to evaluate good government from bad. Thus they sat like decorative puddings, and let the ALP do whatever they wanted. No sense of responsibility, no sense of anything.

  155. a tumescent Rudd

    the press giving Rudd a tongue bath.

    OH FUCK, MY EYES… THE MENTAL IMAGES… I CANNOT UNSEE…

    Congratulations Tony, Gina and Rupert. What comes next ?

    The saving of the nation by Tony Abbott. That’s what.

    Tony, Gina and Rupert didn’t have to do a thing except make clear what was actually happening – that the current mob of jokers running the country had no fucking idea and needed the electoral kicking they’re going to get sometime before the end of November.

  156. Windsor has been a dreadful sell-out to his electorate and a complete shocker and egomaniac, but he might be sick, not unusual at his age, and, until shown otherwise, common decency requires that you don’t bag him on that account.

    Couldn’t give two shits if he dropped dead tomorrow. The man is a reptile.

  157. Their reflexive and visceral hatred of Abbott simply leaves them no option.

    Ant, when Abbott666 gives his victory speech – yes I’m counting chickens here, because the Labor Party are not above fiddling with votes – he should give a thank you to the Fourth Estate, because without them there would not be a victory of such magnitude.

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