Costings and censorship

This afternoon I banged out about 600 odd words on the Coalition costings – they are up at The Conversation (please click through).

The biggest problem with the costings, to my mind, is the $1 million set aside for the National Commission of Audit. This is the promised audit of all government spending that the Coalition have promised will be established to do a thorough analysis of all government spending. They are just not serious if all that is being budgeted is $1 million. The Henry Tax Review had a budget of $10 million.

To my mind the National Commission of Audit is one of the most important initiatives the Coalition has proposed – they will need to spend much more than $1 million to get it done.

It turns out, however, that the costings included a trojan – the internet filter is back.

In a policy hidden on page 7 of a document entitled “The Coalition’s Policy to Enhance Online Safety for Children”, the Coalition has said it will adopt the UK-style policy of internet filtering.
That means households would automatically have adult content filters applied on their internet and phone services, but would have to opt out if they want the unfiltered version of the net.

$10 million the Coalition intends to spend on monitoring and censoring what Australians can access on the internet.

This is absolutely disgraceful. As I have be warning people in public and private, we’re going to have to keep a very close eye on the Liberals to ensure they maintain their promises on free speech, and that their latest proposal to censor the internet fails.

Update: Liberals back-pedalling already.

The policy which was issued today was poorly worded and incorrectly indicated that the Coalition supported an “opt out” system of internet filtering for both mobile and fixed line services. That is not our policy and never has been.
The correct position is that the Coalition will encourage mobile phone and internet service providers to make available software which parents can choose to install on their own devices to protect their children from inappropriate material.

As a gesture of good faith the entire proposal should be dropped and the $10 million allocated to future tax cuts.

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146 Responses to Costings and censorship

  1. Sometimes I start to think that at the heart there are few differences between the Libs and Labor. Abbott appears to have the makings of a small government, individual rights and responsibility person but the rest of the party? I just hope that this won’t be a lost 8 to 12 years.

  2. GlendaH

    No, No, NO!
    Why the hell have they done this.
    I live in a safe conservative area, so I will now vote the local member last and let him know why.

  3. A Lurker

    Very disappointing – the Coalition needs to have a serious rethink on this if they want to hold aloft the banner of protecting our freedoms. If the Coalition are worried about what children are accessing, then it needs to come down to adequate adult supervision of children on technology, adults downloading existing filters for computers and devices that children use, and children brought up to know what is decent and acceptable behaviour, and being able to make responsible decisions. By all means develop a filter that can be downloadable by parents/teachers, but it must be opt in only. Treat the rest of us as adults who know our own minds and can make adult decisions.

  4. Gab

    That means households would automatically have adult content filters applied on their internet and phone services, but would have to opt out if they want the unfiltered version of the net.

    I believe this only applies to new hardware that will be purchased after this becomes law, not existing hardware.

  5. Infidel Tiger

    They really are disgusting collective.

    You can bet your left teste these bastards won’t change the shitty freedom of speech laws.

    They are even planning to make bullying a crime. Well I intend to go to jail because these futures are going to get some abuse.

  6. crocodile

    Abbott, small government. What tree did you just fall out of.

  7. crocodile

    I believe this only applies to new hardware that will be purchased after this becomes law, not existing hardware.

    Phew ! Thank god for that.

  8. Gab

    Are the Liberals trying to lose the election?

  9. Dalai Lama

    This is absolutely pathetic, but, alas, not really surprising. I seem to recall that Richard Alston, the Howard government Communications minister, was also a proponent of an internet filter. All these people do know what’s good for the plebs, no doubt.
    They apparently want to model it after the UK, where the other CINO (Conservative In Name Only), David Cameron, is all set to protect the public from themselves.
    To comprehend the fact that any such filters can easily be bypassed by even the moderately savvy kids is obviously too much of a mental overreach for most of our politicians.
    Maybe the Liberals could give Stephen Conroy a job? Boss of the NBN, perhaps?
    We do sorely need a truly small government libertarian party in Parliament to keep the bastards honest.
    I’m voting LDP for the Senate.

  10. entropy

    Sometimes I think they don’t really want to be the government.

  11. C.L.

    Conceivably, then, the world’s greatest newspaper’s current Dakota Johnson story (with pics) will be banned?

  12. Viva

    Well that honeymoon didn’t last long did it. Over before it’s even begun!

  13. entropy

    Well, I have already voted, but I would have still voted LNP anyway as the economy is the most important thing. But I will join the IPA and donate to a campaign to kill this off.

  14. C.L.

    You can bet your left teste these bastards won’t change the shitty freedom of speech laws.

    I’ve always been suspicious of George Brandis. Apart from being an opera buff, he told Kelly and Shanahan that he’ll put a freedom commissioner inside the HRC.

    Like he won’t end up with an office in a stationary closet within five years.

    ABOLISH THE HRC, you idiot.

  15. lotocoti

    If they are going to do this stupid thing, they should’ve used JoHo’s opt in version instead.

  16. Sinclair Davidson

    ABOLISH THE HRC, you idiot.

    Yes. I don’t understand this soft-cockry: appoint another bureaucrat. FFS.

  17. Gab

    Clearly the IPA has no influence over the Libs.

  18. Token

    Bolt Price- the policy is wrong. The filter is opt in.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    The doctors wives vote is a lock.

  20. Token

    Turnbull corrected error. Parents have to opt in, not automatic.

  21. Viva

    STOP PRESS

    Steve Price reports that Turnbull has just explained that this was a mistake through poor wording. A filter is not the policy – the coalition plans to facilitate the provision of filter software to parents who request it

  22. entropy

    lotocoti
    #986819, posted on September 5, 2013 at 8:11 pm
    If they are going to do this stupid thing, they should’ve used JoHo’s opt in version instead.

    That would be more acceptable.

  23. Infidel Tiger

    Bolt Price- the policy is wrong. The filter is opt in.

    Prove it before I drive around to Tone’s house and punch him in the ####.

  24. Tom

    Cannot locate it yet, but Turnbull has issued a statement in the past 10 minutes, repudiating the policy announcement as “poor worded” and stating that it’s an opt-in system, not an opt-out system.

  25. John Comnenus

    Jamie Briggs, LNP MP, unequivocally says there is NO filter. It was a mistake according to Briggs and it is not LNP policy.

  26. Infidel Tiger

    I like to think my outrage created the quickest policy change in history.

  27. entropy

    So Turnbull thought he would pull a swiftly and has got caught out.

  28. Matt

    Turnbull corrected error. Parents have to opt in, not automatic.

    Better be.

  29. Token

    I like to think my outrage created the quickest policy change in history.

    Lucky noone over-reacted and said stupid things.

  30. A Lurker

    Jamie Briggs, LNP MP, unequivocally says there is NO filter. It was a mistake according to Briggs and it is not LNP policy.

    Then that newspaper article needs to be amended. Thank God it is to be opt in. For awhile I thought the Coalition had completely lost its marbles!! Still and all, the Coalition needs careful watching in case further ‘accidents’ come to light.

  31. Infidel Tiger

    I like to think my outrage created the quickest policy change in history.

    Lucky noone over-reacted and said stupid things.

    If no one had blown their stack these weak pricks would have kept it.

    Eternal vigilance and a short fuse is what the electorate must have.

  32. A Lurker

    p.s. I suggest that Catallaxy is on the Coalition HQ internet favourites list. If so, then perhaps we should offer our services as the preferred focus group on anything related to our Freedoms before they put any changes or additions into legislation.

  33. Gab

    Turnbull has issued a statement in the past 10 minutes, repudiating the policy announcement as “poor worded” and stating that it’s an opt-in system, not an opt-out system.

    That’s only a smidgen better. What business does the government have in this area anyway? Let people purchase their own damn internet filters for their kids. Honestly, this is absurd and as I said elsewhere, it might be opt in now but in future under a Labor government it won’t be.

    This really is skating on the thin ice of free speech. They should drop it.

  34. calli

    While you guys are all having conniptions about Internet filters, I am enjoying the dubious pleasure of watching Rudd lie a little bit more…

    And, before you let slip the doggies of war, I detest anything to do with nannies…

  35. Infidel Tiger

    Meanwhile Tim Wilson is doing the Lords work on Sky.

  36. JC

    seriously, I wonder if we had anything to do with the backpeddling.

    As fucking if the policy was poorly worded. As if.

  37. JC

    If you take a looksee and the original story the description went into some technical detail. Poorly worded my arse.

  38. Infidel Tiger

    Is bullying still a crime?

  39. Dalai Lama

    Not what ZDnet is reporting – the Liberal MP Paul Fletcher has apparently confirmed this is aimed at everyone; kids or no kids, an on an ‘opt-out’ basis:

    It would not surprise me if the Libs were all for a filter; after all, they are almost as statist as Labor.
    Turnbull might just be backpedalling to minimise the damage before the election.

  40. Token

    If so, then perhaps we should offer our services as the preferred focus group on anything related to our Freedoms before they put any changes or additions into legislation.

    One would think that would save these people from a lot of grief. I do hope they are smarter than the turds we are desperate to flush.

  41. Dalai Lama

    Link went missing in previous post:

  42. Matt

    Eternal vigilance and a short fuse is what the electorate must have.

    Liberty quote?

  43. Infidel Tiger

    Who is Paul Fletcher?

    Imprison him.

  44. jumpnmcar

    Ovary actors is the LP males.

  45. Fisky

    It was a sneaky fucking attempt to support a mandatory filter, not “poor wording”. Who is the c*nt that tried to put this policy through??

  46. A Lurker

    Who is Paul Fletcher?

    Someone who is obviously not in the Coalition insta-communication loop. Going by that article he’s still talking about old information – and yes, poorly worded my arse; this was an immediate back-paddling away from stormy seas.

    Careful watching indeed. With an electron microscope.

  47. Gab

    Overreactors

    I point and laugh at you, frog being slowly boiled in water.

  48. Fisky

    If no one had blown their stack these weak pricks would have kept it.

    Also, we are right to give these spivs a taste of the treatment they can expect after they win the election. They must understand they are on notice, and will receive a polite round of applause on Saturday evening only for discharging their duty of getting rid of the Liars. Once that’s done, hostility should be the norm.

  49. Fleeced

    seriously, I wonder if we had anything to do with the backpeddling.

    Almost everyone on facebook was posting about this – even the non-political types… there was a sense of despair that once we finally get rid of a no-good government, we still have to deal with this sort of shit. I’d like to think it was all the Cat’s doing, but…

    Look, they were obviously releasing this on the last day before media blackout to avoid scrutiny. The idiots didn’t recognise that social media doesn’t pay attention to that sort of thing – and now they had little time to correct the PR-clusterfuck that was unfloding.

    They responded quickly – but people like Token are deluding themselves if they think people were overreacting, rather than them simply back-peddling at the reaction. This wasn’t a case of us reacting to rumour – this was a case of them putting up the “wrong” policy by “mistake”

    Their quick response may have helped, but I reckon too late. Bye-bye Sidonis. This shit has likely cost you your senate seat.

  50. Hockeynomics

    Good on you, Sinc.

  51. JC

    They must understand they are on notice, and will receive a polite round of applause on Saturday evening only for discharging their duty of getting rid of the Liars. Once that’s done, hostility should be the norm.

    Lol… It’s going to be fun watching the pricks squirm as they cop any deserved pastings from the right. And they will be just as bitter and nasty as the past six years.

  52. Turnbull was on Triple J this afternoon describing it exactly as an opt-out policy.

    @27:38: “…installing that software either in the smart phone or in the modem as a default which you can then switch off…”.

  53. entropy

    It was a sneaky fucking attempt to support a mandatory filter, not “poor wording”. Who is the c*nt that tried to put this policy through??

    Turnbull, obviously. Either because of his latent tendency to know what is best fr everyone else, a la light bulbs, or it was a deliberate Trojan to reduce Abbott’s winning margin, thus weakening him for his own nefarious purposes /conspiracy of one

  54. Louis Hissink

    When I was local branch secretary of the LP in Kununurra many years ago, I was somewhat bemused at the portability of politicians between the ALP and the LP – try preselection for one, like the late Ernie Bridge, and if that was knocked back, go for the other. Ernie ended up in the ALP.

    This leads to the idea that the political divide isn’t left/right but up and below, up being the political and bureaucratic elite, and the rest of us underneath.

    I wonder if this election is thus a bit of a farce.

  55. Fleeced

    @27:38: “…installing that software either in the smart phone or in the modem as a default which you can then switch off…”.

    What dicks.

  56. GlendaH

    I’m not yet mollified by their denials.
    Mr Abbott and company would do well to remember that one of the main reasons they are in the box seat now is the threat recently posed to our freedoms by the political left – even my labor-loving niece was horrified by Conroy’s proposals.
    Grrrrr.

  57. Fisky

    I am really fucking angry at the Libs for doing this. They have probably lost 100,000 votes, handed a Senate seat to Pauline Hanson, and they won’t even man up and accept it was their real policy. They are disgusting.

  58. Arnost

    p.s. I suggest that Catallaxy is on the Coalition HQ internet favourites list. If so, then perhaps we should offer our services as the preferred focus group on anything related to our Freedoms before they put any changes or additions into legislation.

    +1

    I would really like to see who put that in – this is not something that was cobbled together yesterday on a coaster on the plane. They must have parsed the document many times prior to release. It was intentional and not an error. (Though Abbott / Hockey / Brandis may not have been the ones doing the parsing … So who’s the KRudd on the LNP’s side?)

  59. Lizzie

    I find it totally disheartening that you would consider any attempt to end the chance of pedophiles getting their hooks into kids, or kids soaking their psyche in filth and violence, some kind of violation of your rights. How selfish of you, not to want to do anything to protect those kids whose parents have no interest in protecting them.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    This filter thing.
    A friend of mine wants to know if it blocks porn.
    Donkey porn is what my friend is specifically asking about.

  61. Fisky

    The fuckwad who put this policy out is blowing wind in the sails of pseudo-leftist-”libertarians”. You can just see the private conversations that are occuring in uni bars around the country, with lying Leftists saying to their libertarian-leaning friends “We told you! Libertarians should preference the Liars/Greenslime alliance after all!”. It might have some impact.

    The Liberals are scum. Never forget that.

  62. Gab

    The Libs deserve to lose the election.

  63. Fisky

    Malcolm Turnbull has about 10 Twitter posts in the last five minutes, furiously backpeddling.

    Where did this dog of a policy come from Malcolm?

    Was it yours, you clown?

  64. Dalai Lama

    Now they are saying it was Fletcher’s idea:
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/coalition_risks_backlash_with_surprise_4s0oyIsy3TDwdoHekSjs1O
    I think they’re all full of sh*t.
    Seriously, I can see Stephen Conroy getting a nice cushy job from the Malcolm Turnbull after the election.

  65. Infidel Tiger

    I want to see a media release stating their position in no uncertain terms.

    Until then, Libs last.

  66. Arnost

    Sorry – was slow catching up on the sentiment… But yeah – that sort of shit can lose seats. And particularly critical senate ones.

  67. Fleeced

    I am really fucking angry at the Libs for doing this. They have probably lost 100,000 votes, handed a Senate seat to Pauline Hanson

    Yep… or worse: The Greens – just as we were about to get rid of them.

    And no doubt, the douchebags will blame the minor parties/preferential system and demand electoral reform in their favour… and possibly blame the LDP for “stealing” votes as well.

    Fact is, Sidonis was, IMO on track to get his seat anyway – perhaps in addition to Hanson on some other minor party (I was hoping LDP), but I think he’s toast now – and frankly, I don’t care (though I do care if the Greens get up!)

  68. Fisky

    The Libs deserve to lose the election.

    Not as much as the Liars deserve to be fired out of a cannon into orbit. That comes first, then we can concentrate our fire on the Libs.

  69. Dalai Lama

    Who can believe that a lowly opposition backbench MP was the ‘architect’ of this disgraceful policy?
    And that the senior members of the LNP had no idea?
    I say bullsh*t.
    Pox on all of them.

  70. LOL, the Libs are in complete organisational disarray and they’re not even in government yet.

    Heckuva job.

  71. Infidel Tiger

    Go filter yourself doughboy.

  72. Gab

    Get lost, monty. We’ve had six years of Labor clusterfucks.

  73. Dalai Lama

    Bradfield, Fletcher’s seat, is a very safe Liberal area.
    Anyone living there who wants to send Paul a message?

  74. Fisky

    No no, your views aren’t being canvassed on this m0nster, and there is no compromise on the inevitability of destroying the Leftist alliance.

  75. mundi

    Which ever way you look at it: This is major liberal fuck up.

    If this isn’t yet more evidence that the LNP are essentially as left as the ALP, then I don’t know what is.

    We don’t have a liberal party anymore – we have two socialist nanny state parties.

    $6 billion in cuts is a joke.

    Its like voting for dumb and dumber.

  76. Token

    …but people like Token are deluding themselves if they think people were overreacting…

    Keep laying on the abuse Fleeced.

  77. Tom

    Abbott is now disowning the “poorly worded” policy.

  78. Hey Fisky, didn’t you make a whole thread exploring the Turnbull option? Two of them, IIRC? How’s that workin’ out for ya?

  79. Infidel Tiger

    Bradfield, Fletcher’s seat, is a very safe Liberal area.
    Anyone living there who wants to send Paul a message?

    Will I be jailed for bullying?

    I just saw Abbott on the news announce that the only Internet filter is the one supported by Rudd. It looks like Turnbull has tried to Rat(censor) him.

  80. Tom

    LOL, the Libs are in complete organisational disarray and they’re not even in government yet.

    You really have a mental age of three.

  81. Rabz

    Well done Liberals, you arrogant, clueless donkeys.

    This is the sort of incompetence we expect from labor.

    You’re supposedly the ‘competent’ ones, remember?

  82. Fisky

    Two of them? What are you talking about Garcon? You are even worse with numbers than Rudd.

  83. mundi

    I thought LNP had a lead they couldn’t fuck up.

    I was wrong.

    Why on earth didn’t they pull a Rudd and hole all policy and costings to 5pm friday night?

  84. Fisky

    I just saw Abbott on the news announce that the only Internet filter is the one supported by Rudd. It looks like Turnbull has tried to Rat(censor) him.

    Turnbull must be dragged before a hastily-convened show trial for this behaviour. He has said on Twitter that he only “read” the policy shortly before going on JJJ. This is unbelievable – who the fuck drafted the policy if it wasn’t him?

  85. I live in a safe conservative area, so I will now vote the local member last and let him know why.

    And if every conservative in that electorate thinks and votes like you? There’s a seat gone back to the Labor scum.

    Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. Get Labor out first; the Coalition is at least amenable to reason and wind-backs on shit like this.

  86. Fisky

    Malcolm Turnbull ‏@TurnbullMalcolm 32m
    I read policy shortly before going on @triplej I did my best to make sense of it, until I could ensure it was authoritatively corrected.

    Complete BS. Every word a falsehood, including “on”, “to”, “of” and “it”.

  87. Infidel Tiger

    This Internet filter thing is like finding out Scarlett Johannson has a dick and just as you were throwing up, she laughs and tells you it’s a strap on.

  88. Fisky

    Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face. Get Labor out first; the Coalition is at least amenable to reason and wind-backs on shit like this.

    They are, but we have to make them sweat on it.

  89. “Adult” government, hmm yeah. Except you can’t surf adult content because Fletcher’s brain fart, channelling Hillsong, is to censor the internet as Liberal policy, only hastily backtracked when it was suddenly realised that the bandwagon careening into office just got shot full of holes.

    Internet censorship is always comical no matter from which side the policy comes, like King Canute karate kicking the waves.

  90. Gab

    Speaking of Conroy – who has said if Labor gets re-elected he’ll ensure their mandatory internet filter and the restriction of free press laws get floated again – anyone seen Conroy this election? Where’s he been hiding?

  91. Louis Hissink

    Phoner on Steve Price show pointed out the zero reaction from the ALP re the filter gaffe. If the ALP get re-elected, then they will implement their filter. Point the caller made was that the ALP has been totally quiet about this during the whole election.

    Hence might this “gaffe” actually be a ploy too clever to get the electorate not to vote for the ALP because if they do, they will get their internet filter?

    Any lack of comment by the ALP on this topic should be very interesting.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Speaking of Conroy – who has said if Labor gets re-elected he’ll ensure their mandatory internet filter and the restriction of free press laws get floated again – anyone seen Conroy this election? Where’s he been hiding?

    Locked in the boot of Bill Ludwig’s Valiant Regal.

  93. Any lack of comment by the ALP on this topic should be very interesting.

    Why interfere while the Libs are making a mistake?

  94. Fleeced

    Hence might this “gaffe” actually be a ploy…

    Everything’s a conspiracy, eh?

    No, it was just a clusterfuck. We’ll have to watch them closely.

  95. Gab

    Notice when Labor were pushing to clamp down on the free press monty was nowhere to be found?

    You have no credibility over this issue monty. You showed your true colours before today.

  96. wreckage

    Someone needs to be dragged out back and shot. The Libs campaigned against the filter.

  97. Louis Hissink

    Monty,

    Touche. Good reply.

  98. Armadillo

    Sinc has an up-date up stairs.

  99. stackja

    Another mountain out of a mole hill?

  100. Gab

    As a gesture of good faith the entire proposal should be dropped and the $10 million allocated to future tax cuts.

    Excellent idea.

  101. entropy

    m0nty
    #986970, posted on September 5, 2013 at 9:20 pm
    Any lack of comment by the ALP on this topic should be very interesting.

    Why interfere while the Libs are making a mistake?

    Monty is right, at lest for the short term.

    But there isn’t much term left.
    A week or so and it would work to demonstrate the ALP were trying to reintroduce their bloody NK style system.

  102. tbh

    This is moronic from the Libs. Someone should be punched in the nuts for it. Hard and often.

  103. harrys on the boat

    It’s why l said the Libs will be lucky with 80 seats on the OT. Not only are the electorate A grade fucking idiots but so are the fucking politicians.

    Let’s just get this scum out and then go to town on the Libs.

  104. Gab

    monty is wrong. The only reason Rudd hasn’t said anything is becuase he knows damn well the focus will shift back to them and remind people their internet filtering policies were to be mandatory.

    And it’s the same reason Conroy isn’t being wheeled out over this.

  105. Token

    Another mountain out of a mole hill?

    In the future I hope the Cats will discuss the policy and be planning how to lobby for change.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    I prefer to shoot first.

  107. harrys on the boat

    m0nty has been quiet for days and now the fat fuck gets his gotcha moment……… the internet filter……. you’re a pathetic fucking child, m0nst.

  108. Fleeced

    I prefer to shoot first.

    If we didn’t shoot, they wouldn’t have danced…

  109. Tal

    Lower your expectations and move on

  110. Fisky

    Little slips like these are a window into the true nature of the Liberal Party. They occasionally prove their worth in getting rid of the Liars with record majorities (Fraser 75, Howard 96, Kennett 93, Newman 12) but they are constitutionally untrustworthy. You have to be constantly be yelling at the cnuts and threatening to burn down the building.

  111. stackja

    You have to be constantly be yelling at the cnuts and threatening to burn down the building.

    In the future I hope the Cats will discuss the policy and be planning how to lobby for change.

    Again what to the Australian people want? We will find out part of the answer on Saturday.

  112. Token

    m0nty has been quiet for days and now the fat fuck gets his gotcha moment……… the internet filter……. you’re a pathetic fucking child, m0nst.

    Of course he did.

    He’s been popping in and leaving his troll droppings at the top of threads over the past few days.

    Lower your expectations and move on

    I don’t understand why people had expectations raised.

    * What was the Coalition position on the referendum on the councils until the last possible time before the election?
    * How hard did they have to be pushed to finally move on the Bolt case? We only found out yesterday they will make a stand.
    * The grassroots had to rage in every way possible to get the ETS & Turnbull removed, though Hunt is still in place.
    * McFarlane is still in a senior position even though he was willing to deal with Wong on the eco-crucifixes & cutting back on coal

    I don’t get why people are surprised.

  113. Fisky

    Official Coalition statement:

    The Coalition has never supported mandatory internet filtering. Indeed, we have a long record of opposing it.

    The policy which was issued today was poorly worded and incorrectly indicated that the Coalition supported an “opt out” system of internet filtering for both mobile and fixed line services. That is not our policy and never has been.

    The correct position is that the Coalition will encourage mobile phone and internet service providers to make available software which parents can choose to install on their own devices to protect their children from inappropriate material.

    The policy posted online today is being replaced with the correct version.

    We are also pleased to announce that the person responsible for this grave error of judgment is at this moment having 50,000 volts administered to their temples.

    I admit the last sentence may not be a direct quote from the Liberal website.

  114. Hockeynomics

    Busted!

    Turnbull was trying to sell the mandatory internet filter on Triple J earlier:


    It’s essentially installing that software either in the smart phone or in the modem as a default which you can switch off,” he said.

    However, Mr Turnbull later tweeted that he had only read the policy a short time before the interview, and was merely doing his best to “make sense of it”.

    He released a statement a short time afterwards saying the policy document was “poorly worded”.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-05/no-internet-filter-says-turnbull/4939156

  115. Snoopy

    Who was that Cat tongue bathing Turnbull a couple of months ago?

  116. Token

    Who was that Cat tongue bathing Turnbull a couple of months ago?

    This is Turnbull’s portfolio. Good luck trying to roll Abbott with this albatross around your neck.

  117. Fisky

    Turnbull has done us a favour – leadership tensions will NOT be a problem in the next parliament. He’s simply not viable anymore.

  118. tbh

    Fisky, completely agree. We must be eternally vigilant with politicians of any stripe, even the ones who we might be aligned with. They cannot be trusted, any of them.

    Never, ever let up on these people.

  119. Token

    Busted!

    Turnbull was trying to sell the mandatory internet filter on Triple J earlier

    You really are a sharp one, aren’t you Douche.

    We discussed that all up-thread. Catch up FFS.

  120. Leo G

    Whether “opt in” or “opt out”, the Coalition don’t appear to be referring to IP filters on the Internet, but to the default search engine set up by ISP or telecom provider on personal PCs or smartphones.

  121. wreckage

    It’s essentially installing that software either in the smart phone or in the modem as a default which you can switch off

    So it’s actually nothing like the ISP filter in any way, even in its un-amended form.

    Fuckin’ media. thanks for pointing that out, hockeynomics, although I doubt you intended to.

  122. Nanuestalker

    I find it totally disheartening that you would consider any attempt to end the chance of pedophiles getting their hooks into kids, or kids soaking their psyche in filth and violence, some kind of violation of your rights. How selfish of you, not to want to do anything to protect those kids whose parents have no interest in protecting them.

    Oh ffs think of the children!

  123. dover_beach

    This is a fantastic thread.

  124. Makka

    Considering voting against the Libs and for what exactly?… because of this filter issue is bloody childish. I’m sorry , but after all the shit and filth dished out from the Left these last 6 years to even consider not facilitating their demise is fkn irresponsible. How about some priorities? There is only one priority- get this Leftist scum OFF the Treasury benches. All else pales into insignificance …the filter is a bloody sideshow.

  125. C.L.

    Is that really Finkelstein twerker Monty up there speaking up for free speech?

  126. JC

    Yea, it’s him. The libs are likely to win and Fatboy has suddenly morphed into a free speech rights advocate. Where’s he been for the last six years? Let me ask again.. Where’s he been for the last six years other than belching up donuts?

    Help us out here fatboy. Where have you been?

  127. wreckage

    Simple. He wants his (and his intellectual kin) running the show. When they’re not, he’s all for freedom. In short, he wants to maximise his own position at the expense of others, and prevent them from doing the same to him, or eroding his position.

    It’s important to note that this is envy, not greed; if he gains free speech, and others do too, that’s of no value, as there is no relative positive gain for him. To the envious, gain is only measured in advantage over others.

  128. dd

    ABOLISH THE HRC, you idiot.

    They won’t. Abbott is very big on market differentiation through not breaking promises. Anything they’ve said they won’t do, won’t happen. The interesting stuff will more likely happen at the margins, in policy areas that haven’t been under the microscope during the campaign. However by laying out policy agendas on so many things I wonder if the Coalition have tied their own hands behind their backs.

  129. JC

    Wreckage

    That’s fatboy down to the last strand of DNA in his fat weakened body.

  130. An Abbott government is going to disappoint you lot so much. The wailing and gnashing of teeth around here will be pitiful. He has adopted most of the Gillard legacy, and much of the rest will be locked in by a Senate filled with protectionist loons and agrarian socialists. This is but a taste of the years of rice and salt ahead.

  131. Gab

    Yeah, nah. No one does clusterfucks like Labor.

  132. Token

    Really M0nty, trying to troll twice in the same thread?

  133. Infidel Tiger

    Abbott could bring in communism and ill still be happy he dispatched the current mob.

  134. wreckage

    Whatever, m0nty. Keep talking yourself around! Positive self-talk, that’s the ticket! Really, when you think about it, you’re the winner, not those Catallaxy dolts! They will be so sad when the ALP gets kicked in the nuts!

    I love a good centrist, semi-populist government. Love it. IT will wail a bit but she just does that for attention.

  135. Cold-Hands

    anyone seen Conroy this election? Where’s he been hiding?

    According to Blair, Conroy was in the USA at an Internet Conference as of mid-August. Not sure if he’s back- he wasn’t visible at the Labor Campaign launch.

    Funny, when googling the quoted phrase, the first site thrown up was Chris Kenny’s blog (the sane Kenny); the second was Mark Latham’s wikipedia entry and the third result was the Wikipedia entry for Adolf Hitler. No wonder Conroy wants a compulsory filter.

  136. However by laying out policy agendas on so many things I wonder if the Coalition have tied their own hands behind their backs.

    Abbott may be thinking along the lines that the devil makes work for idle hands, and is determined to keep LNP hands idle for as little time as is humanly possible.

  137. Tom

    An Abbott government is going to disappoint you lot so much. The wailing and gnashing of teeth around here will be pitiful.

    You really do have the intellect of a three-year-old, Fat Boy.

    The Cat strategy has been simple:

    a) Decimate of the communist filth.

    b) Begin splitting the non-communist real world into the left faction (the Liberal Party) and freedom lovers (everyone else).

  138. Luke

    Thanks for raising this Sonclair. Given that this policy goes across governments, I suspect there are some federal public servants who are desperate to push this.

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