Wednesday Forum: September 25, 2013

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  1. DrBeauGan

    I won’t play this silly game.

  2. brc

    I was just reading on he currency arbitrage offered to venezuelan travelers.
    I think there was a comment earlier in the week about them running short of toilet paper.

    Every time someone trid to play games with their currency, it fails
    Every time someone nationalizes industries, it leads to shortages

    Both of these policies end up in civil strife unless the leader can be removed democratically, which they usually cannot.

    Yet time and time again people try this socialist crap with oh-so-predictble results. And the lefties line up to pay whoever the latest Marxist idiot is lots of compliments.

    I think the only valid use of the UN is a ban on socialism in the intesrests of human dececny. But then that would be turkeys vying for Christmas.

  3. Don from Brisbane

    I love how one clicks in now with about 4 responses showing, then clicks back an hour later for perhaps hundreds of responses. Good reading for later in the day when ones head feels the need to explode over the computer. Who came in 5th?

  4. C.L.

    Further corruption revealed:

    Secret Defence report signals Collins subs crisis.

    A CONFIDENTIAL report has identified 68 critical problems on the navy’s Collins-class submarines that it warns pose a high to extreme risk of forcing their retirement before new submarines can be built…

    It warns of grave challenges including periscopes that suck in water, unreliable diesel engines, faulty generators and sonars, and obsolete internal and external communication systems that could jeopardise the ability of submarines to talk to other navy vessels, including international allies. And it warns that the submarines’ cooling systems are overloaded, making the vessels too hot for the crew and machinery.

    It also says the future failure of some hatches and tunnel doors is “probable” and poses a “very high risk” to the submarines reaching their life expectancy…

    The study was conducted by the DMO last year. The Gillard government did not release the DMO report but instead cherry-picked its findings.

    The then defence minister Stephen Smith stated last December that the report found “no single technical issue that would fundamentally prevent the Collins-class submarines from achieving their indicative service life or a service-life extension”.

    Mr Smith did not mention that the report also detailed 68 major systems on each submarine that the DMO said posed a very high to extreme risk to the submarines ever achieving their initial life expectancy or a life extension of seven years.

  5. Don from Brisbane

    BRC was fifth, but that shouldn’t count as BRC was being serious. I didn’t know you were allowed to be serious in the first ten. Oh well, learning curves are there for a reason.

  6. C.L.

    The creampuff-isation of our culture:

    America’s Cup crew, 1983.

    America’s Cup crew, yesterday.

  7. Token

    Yet time and time again people try this socialist crap with oh-so-predictble results. And the lefties line up to pay whoever the latest Marxist idiot is lots of compliments.

    Then when predictably it becomes another hell on earth which exterminates people for saying the wrong thing the lefties say it was a “great idea badly implemented and sold”.

  8. Cold-Hands

    I hope her local parish priest has the guts to stick with this ruling:

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has no Catholic right to be granted Communion, said the leading cardinal of the highest court at the Vatican.
    Mrs. Pelosi should be denied Communion until she changes her advocacy views on abortion, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke said, according to the Western Center for Journalism.

    That’s canon law, not opinion, he said. Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”
    And Cardinal Burke said Mrs. Pelosi fits the definition.

  9. Token

    Californian is becoming a failed state as the squander monkeys get in permanent control of the arms of government.

    The electoral system is being rigged to ensure the candidates cashed up by public sector unions have an advantage over all other candidates in election resulting in permanent control over both houses of state parliament by their pet politicians.

    The logical result is the minorities who are being taxed to the gills and ignored by the permanent ruling class want to get out to create the long discussed State of Jefferson.

    The Modoc County Board of Supervisors today voted to join neighboring Siskiyou County in its bid to secede from the State of California.

    Board Chairman Geri Byrne said a measure to join the push to form a State of Jefferson was approved by a vote of 4-0, with one supervisor absent.

    “I put the measure on the agenda because I heard from a number of people in my district that wanted to do such,” Byrne said. “We’re not saying we’re seceding today, we’re saying let’s look into it.”

  10. David

    CL I am waiting for some weasel little bureaucrat who has never been to sea to come up with the idea that everybody who works for’d of the cockpit on a yacht has to wear a bloody helmet. Your photo of the current America’s Cup crew will be eagerly grasped by such a person eager to point out that if elite yachtspersons [non sexist terminology] do it then the rest of the sailing plebs can follow suit.

  11. Beef

    The creampuff-isation of our culture:

    CL. Agreed but I also took a different view on the two photos re culture change.

    The Old Americas Cup with the Yachts like Ragamuffin etc, a different time,. Now these fast moving catamerangs (sic). A bit sad really

  12. twostix

    Then when predictably it becomes another hell on earth which exterminates people for saying the wrong thing the lefties say it was a “great idea badly implemented and sold”.

    “That wasn’t real communism”.
    “Lenin was right wing”.

    – Actual quotes heard by fuckwit, fat, disgusting upper middle class white collar leftists defending the worst ideology ever from the comfort of their cushy office jobs.

  13. Popular Front

    Afternoon Cats. I’ve just been over at Bolt’s and the level of lefty bitching is a delight to behold. On every subject, every thread the carping, whining, griping and moaning is hilarious.

  14. egg_

    Should definitely beat the hammybot, eh Pete? 😉

  15. pete m

    Wait until the plane lands egg_

  16. twostix

    Victorians are such a bunch of commies that they have a tanty when local councils get out of the business of operating Aged Care facilities:

    Residents, their families and other ratepayers lashed the council for considering selling the Monash Gardens and Elizabeth Gardens aged-care facilities.

    Love media above the law?

    Several protesters stayed on for other parts of the meeting and continued to criticise the council’s decision, with one protester formally warned.

    In an unusual step, council staff were forced to allow cameras into the meeting after Channel Seven refused to leave after entering the gallery.

    Why not have them arrested? Is it a law they were breaking or some gay council rule?

    Who in their right minds wants the local council operating Aged Care facilities? Here the local council operates an “Eco tourism” caravan park. It’s running a 1.5 million dollar loss every single year and is constantly empty. It’s ugly, unattractive and the accommodation looks like East German military barracks. Right next door is a private caravan park that is going absolute gangbusters, they’ve just opened a big new water park, just finishing building a new block of units and the place is constantly packed on weekends and holidays. Bright, cheerful, sunny and inviting. There’s literally nothing different between the parks except one is run by the government one is run for profit.

    What is wrong with people?

  17. twostix

    From the last thread, Alice wrote:

    Frankly I have been very disturbed by the plight of many students who have come into uni. Had one break down in tears on me only two weeks ago. It costs them a lot of money in many cases for multiple fails when they should not be there in the first place and many are earning a pittance in the lower end of the job market anyway – and its all taking them years longer to get into full time work.

    I imagine the next step is that universities will lower their standards in response, pressure will be applied to teachers to pass these students, etc. They really do destroy everything they touch don’t they? The left I mean. But why? Do they think to themselves “hmm all these politically radicalised young people at uni, hey if all young people went to uni then all young people would be radicalised, what a boon that would be!” or do they think “hmm people with uni degrees generally earn more money, so if everyone had a uni degree everyone would earn more money!”. I’d think the latter was more likely to be the case but then the left go on about how much they hate people having money so it must be the former…

  18. Bons

    I see that the ICC has offered to try the Kenyan Jihadis.
    That would be a good result – a 10 year trial during which the accused progressively escape from imprisonment in the Hague Sheraton.
    Methinks that the Kenyans may have other plans for these sons and daughters of Islam.

  19. C.L.

    Oh good God, no …

    Gillard emerges for interview, wants to take her ideas global.

    When asked about key highlights of her time in power, she nominated pricing carbon …

  20. Go Tiges

    A CONFIDENTIAL report has identified 68 critical problems on the navy’s Collins-class submarines that it warns pose a high to extreme risk of forcing their retirement before new submarines can be built…

    It seems we are still paying for Kim Beazley’s decision to build the things in SA to buy some votes there, when at the time, the only people who knew anything about building and maintaining subs was in Sydney.

  21. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Put me in for one full path of the sun and of the moon Ke-mo sah-bee, at 25th.

  22. Gab

    Wow. So gillard finally admits in public that her highest achievement was lying to the Australian public and adding more onto their energy bills just to pander to the Greens. Brilliant.

  23. JC

    The dishonest slapper didn’t pud a pwice on carbin. She imposed a tax.

  24. JC

    Is she still with stedman, or has he been permanently banished as a hair tonic salesman? Anyone know?

  25. Uh-oh! 3D printer duplicates masterworks paintings down to the last brush stroke.
    I guess as long as it’s used for good, as Max Smart used to say.

  26. C.L.

    Another slush fund …

    Allegations of union running slush fund for Labor faction hit court.

    Fairfax Media broke the news of Mr Sheehan’s allegations in August.

    He says the ASU Queensland branch set up the slush fund disguised as a social club fund that deducted money from employees’ pay.

    He claims the fund, worth about $180,000, was used to bankroll a Labor faction.

    Royal Commission now, jail terms for all the burglars involved.

  27. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From David at 12:32 pm:

    “CL I am waiting for some weasel little bureaucrat who has never been to sea to come up with the idea that everybody who works for’d of the cockpit on a yacht has to wear a bloody helmet. Your photo of the current America’s Cup crew will be eagerly grasped by such a person eager to point out that if elite yachtspersons [non sexist terminology] do it then the rest of the sailing plebs can follow suit.”

    That’s got the Li’l Adamie Bandts covered, but what about the blokes – do they have to wear a helmet too?

  28. Driftforge

    I wonder who stands to benefit from that ‘sob’marine story. Collins is easy to beat on, and with $30B dollars of submarine build on the timeline, there are a number of parties who have commercial interests in talking down both Collins and the in country capacity to design and build the new ones.

    The vast majority of that article is normal practice being expounded on by someone taking advantage of the general public’s lack of knowledge about submarines.

    I’d be surprised it the boats weren’t getting ‘heavier, hotter and noisier’ as that is what happens when you add more equipment over the life cycle of a boat. Navy constantly iterates equipment, and each little change adds to the overall loads that have to be dealt with.

    Only two boats are intended to be in service at any one time – this is the intent, not a defect and consistent with submarine operations world wide. 1/3 in service during normal times, scaling up to 2/3 in service during war.

    If the government makes a decision in the time frame noted, there is 7-8 years of design, and then 2-3 years for first build. We can have the first new boat in the water 2024-25, with an additional boat every 18-24 months thereafter.

  29. Navy selected a new Swedish design by Kockums, filled it with a huge amount of stuff and built it in SA. What could possibly go wrong?

  30. Armadillo

    Was it here I read that those Greenpeace wankers were just sitting quitely in their boat (peacefully protesting) in international waters and the nasty Russians came in on ropes from helicopters and hijacked their vessel? I wake this morning to see footage of their eco warriors in rubber dingys scaling the sides of a Russian ship. Surely not? You just can’t trust anyone these days.

  31. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “The dishonest slapper didn’t pud a pwice on carbin. She imposed a tax.”

    I have just now reviewed my position vis-à-vis the slattern. The setting remains on “v” for visceral hatred.

  32. Leo G

    I was consulting at the Westinghouse facility in Sydney while the generators were assembled. The management was not happy that the contract did not allow the functional performance tests that are considered essential to ensure the effectiveness of defence equipment.

  33. C.L.

    … 3D printer duplicates masterworks paintings down to the last brush stroke …

    Sure to be a money spinner.

    People would like to own and display a texturally identical print.

  34. Steve of Glasshouse

    Any chance that the leaky subs could be used to transport asylum seekers?

  35. Bons

    When asked about key highlights of her time in power, she nominated pricing carbon …
    Left stupid pays exceptionally well. Failure is a positive on a totalitarian’s CV – “It wes dem international conglomerates (& the CIA) what done me wrong.”
    With failures in IR, refugees & carbon she will easily score a job with the UN – they all do. If all else fails, Fat Sharan will give her a gig at the ILO.
    I was originally thinking California, but the bogan accent would just leave them wondering what she is screeching about.

  36. boy on a bike

    Someone needs to ask the NBN if they still think they’ll meet their December target for offering 1gb plans.

    Wholesale price – $150 per month.

    Don’t forget to add the 160% retail markup when thinking about ordering one of these links.

  37. GK

    Loved watching the ALP pretend leaders debate. In summary their main points;
    Mr Shorten; spend here, spend there, increase wages, spend here, spend there, increase wages……..
    Albanese; spend here, spend there, increase wages, spend here, spend there, increase wages……..
    Yep same old ALP.
    Funny that they kept saying how fantastic it is that the ALP has democratised, yet all senate and pre selections are still in control of the unions. Really frustrating how rusted on do not see this.

  38. Denise

    C.L. at 1:08 pm

    “This will be my words direct.” I hope she has a good proofreader, but perhaps Jennifer Byrne will just feel the vibe

  39. Toiling Mass

    Kae #1013548

    Present.

    Geez. Thanks!

  40. Motelier

    Just in from sanding and painting in the hot Queensland sun and what do if find.

    A nice shiny new fred.

    I do hope the cleaners do not go on strike after cleaning up the old fred.

  41. Uh oh

    I suppose Keysar Trad will be out shortly to tell us that the Nairobi Westgate massacre was all just a dreadful misunderstanding.

  42. Popular Front

    that the Nairobi Westgate massacre was all just a dreadful misunderstanding

    And was definately taken out of context, don’t forget.

  43. Mrs Beardsley

    Mick of the Gold Coast! You must be an anti-woman gynophobic chauvenistic Sexist. I might be one too!

    I have never hated any PM as much as I did that one.

    Mine is ‘hair trigger hatred’.

    I start cussing and embarassing Mr Beardsley when its name is mentioned. Even worse reaction when exposed to the sight or sound of it.

  44. David

    G’day Mick,

    Not on my bloody boat they don’t – and neither do the women.

  45. Still Waters

    “When asked about key highlights of her time in power, she nominated pricing carbon and the National Disability Insurance Scheme along with her education reforms.”

    The first, a broken promise. The second, a small scale trial which no-one knows how to fund fully. The third, non-existent.

  46. H B Bear

    The creampuff-isation of our culture:

    Tell that to the family of the guy that was killed training for this race. What they are doing bears almost no resemblance to yachting as anyone else would know it. It is the difference between F1 and driving to the shops for some milk.

  47. kae

    Pyne signals changes to higher education.

    Regional universities alarmed at many of the changes flagged.

    1. Not everyone should go to university.

    2. Those going to university should be literate and numerate.

    They’d be a good start, as others have stated here.

  48. H B Bear

    Gillard’s autobiography can go straight into the fiction section.

    Anyone looking for an accurate account of her past should be referred to her Slugs & Grubs exit interview and the upcoming Royal Commission transcripts.

  49. Motelier

    Pyne signals changes to higher education.

    Regional universities alarmed at many of the changes flagged.

    1. Not everyone should go to university.

    2. Those going to university should be literate and numerate.

    They’d be a good start, as others have stated here.

    3. The world needs ditch diggers just as much as doctors and lawyers.

    Just added another one to your list.

  50. Motelier

    And you do not need a qualification to be a ditch digger.

  51. Motelier

    And some of the most down to earth people are ditch diggers.

  52. kae

    twosticks

    I imagine the next step is that universities will lower their standards in response…

    Already happening. All of it.

    For some students spoon-fed through high school University is a HUGE culture shock.

  53. egg_

    And you do not need a qualification to be a ditch digger.

    Not any more.
    Whitecard, traffic control, etc. the list is probably growing thanks to the OHS industry.

  54. twostix

    2. Those going to university should be literate and numerate.

    This is true but it’s not really fair that after 13 years of government schooling we’re leaving High School innumerate and illiterate. It’s not the childs fault that they’ve been abused and experimented on by totalitarian social engineers a thousand kilometres away.

    The people responsible for this free fall in academic ability need to be held to account, this will never happen so the only other solution is to place power over schools and teachers into parents and principles hands so they can fire the people responsible for wasting their children’s minds. A few sacked teachers would soon see teachers resisting being the forced implementers of Social Engineering Experiment #23241 in their classroom that year.

  55. kae

    Lefty failure doesn’t seem to have consequences.

  56. entropy

    Here the local council operates an “Eco tourism” caravan park. It’s running a 1.5 million dollar loss every single year and is constantly empty. It’s ugly, unattractive and the accommodation looks like East German military barracks. Right next door is a private caravan park that is going absolute gangbusters, they’ve just opened a big new water park, just finishing building a new block of units and the place is constantly packed on weekends and holidays

    Sounds like market failure and those private operators are obviously fleecing the community and should be run out of town.

  57. Combine Dave

    Navy selected a new Swedish design by Kockums, filled it with a huge amount of stuff and built it in SA. What could possibly go wrong?

    Same thing that will happen with it’s replacement? Whats available off the shelf?

  58. twostix

    3. The world needs ditch diggers just as much as doctors and lawyers.

    You sound like the worst of the original proponents of compulsory education:

    “In our dream we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not to raise up among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply.”

    – Rev. Frederick T. Gates, Business Advisor to John D. Rockefeller Sr., 1913

  59. squawkbox

    Same thing that will happen with it’s replacement? Whats available off the shelf?

    Not much in the diesel-electric range. Other countries’ diesel subs are all designed with much shorter effective ranges than required for Australia. Nuclear is apparently too complicated for the RAN.

  60. Gillard’s autobiography can go straight into the fiction crime section

  61. kae

    On World Today today an academic talking about debt to fund infrastructure. It was quite good.

    People don’t understand that funding infrastructure via debt makes sense, as those utilising it are then the ones paying for it. (Whereas with debt used to pay ongoing costs, like the ALP in Qld was with wages, etc, there’s no advantage to borrow to pay ongoing costs.)

  62. twostix

    People don’t understand that funding infrastructure via debt makes sense, as those utilising it are then the ones paying for it. (Whereas with debt used to pay ongoing costs, like the ALP in Qld was with wages, etc, there’s no advantage to borrow to pay ongoing costs.)

    All that is doing is making decisions for future generations then telling them they’re going to pay for it. But what if they don’t want it? What if it’s the NBN and is utter shit and never gets finished but costs 40 billion in borrowed money and the next generation are using wireless anyway? Why should they pay for the stupidity of their parent’s generations ideas?

    Embarking on grandiose infrastructure spending then leaving the next generation the bill isn’t the way to be remembered well.

  63. Driftforge

    The RAN would be interested in nuclear, but it would add 20 years to the process. Better to build our own subs now, and add nuclear down the track on a separate process.

  64. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Senator Cruz from Texas has been on his feet filibustering (re the Obambicare scam) for ten hours and he is still lucid!

  65. Michel Lasouris

    Tch.tch! I’d hoped that the recent change od ‘masthead’ was permanent; but is was not to be.
    Would you please ask the barbarian ( lower edge, right of centre) in the tin mixing bowl and dirty green habit, to kindly get his hand OFF the fair maiden’s left breast?
    It’s all very troubling……

  66. tomix

    Not any more.
    Whitecard, traffic control, etc. the list is probably growing thanks to the OHS industry

    True. … but, safety on Qld.construction sites may have benefitted by the absence of slobs too lousy to pay$75 for a White Card with no expiry date. Also, the new Qld. Regs [1/1/2012] removed the operators licencing requirement for all earthmoving machinery.

  67. Michel Lasouris

    Oh, and that’s a novel form of deck quoits ( upper left corner) I wonder what the prize will be if they get all three on the spear?

  68. Rabz

    You must be an anti-woman gynophobic chauvenistic Sexist.

    Madam Beardsley, I’ll have you know that Squire Muck of the Gold Coast is in the vanguard of the Thrusting Phallus of the Patriarchy™, even though he’s much too modest to admit it.

  69. Cold-Hands

    The RAN would be interested in nuclear, but it would add 20 years to the process. Better to build our own subs now, and add nuclear down the track on a separate process.

    Wouldn’t we be buying/leasing the boats from the USA ready built?

  70. JC

    Stix

    I reckon the the way to price some of that infrastructure is to issue non recourse financing where ever you can. That way if the project doesn’t pay for itself… It isn’t profitable… the bond holders cop it up the butt and not future generations.

    I wonder how many lenders would have handed over non resource money for the Liars NBN? I don’t think even the union funds would have been that fucking stupid.

  71. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    from twostix at 2:17 pm:

    “You sound like the worst of the original proponents of compulsory education:

    “In our dream we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, … Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply.”

    – Rev. Frederick T. Gates, Business Advisor to John D. Rockefeller Sr., 1913 “

    I’m impressed twostix. A casual conversation breaks out about education, between strangers, as if at a bus stop.

    Jacko says “Gees, I don’t know about that!”

    Twostix responds “Well, I just happen to have here a piece from the Rev Fred Gates …, it’s in my back pocket, hang on. He spoke on this in about 1066AD”

    Jacko: “I surrender! I surrender!”

  72. tomix

    3. The world needs ditch diggers just as much as doctors and lawyers.

    You sound like the worst of the original proponents of compulsory education

    +1

  73. Tracey

    I just forced myself to watch the video of TLS talking about her forthcoming book. She’s still doing the weird shit with her hands.
    She also affirms she will be ‘out and about’ promoting it. I really hope that lady from the Brisbane shopping centre turns up at one of those signings.

  74. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Mrs Beardsley at 1:55 pm:

    “Mick of the Gold Coast! You must be an anti-woman gynophobic chauvenistic Sexist. I might be one too!”

    … and from Rabz at 2:51 pm

    “Madam Beardsley, I’ll have you know that Squire Muck of the Gold Coast is in the vanguard of the Thrusting Phallus of the Patriarchy™, even though he’s much too modest to admit it.”

    I’m ever so pleased my inner western suburbs educatorpersons focused on short, sharp words to get dills like me through, however they left me at a distinct disadvantage around highly literate – nay – articulate lords and lieges as you both be. I somehow get the feeling that today this may be a Good Thing.

  75. Tom

    Is she still with stedman, or has he been permanently banished as a hair tonic salesman?

    According to Pickering, Stedman was last year’s handbag and a new female accessory has now filled the breach. I apologise for that imagery.

  76. Snoopy

    South Australia doesn’t have any decent coal deposits. It should be designated a nuclear hub, with a nuclear power station and the ability to service US or Brit built RAN nuclear subs. SA has also got plenty of nowhere to deposit (international) nuclear waste.

  77. Cold-Hands

    The Pieman is considering ALP parliamentary quotas for Indigenous and Torres Strait Islanders. Next it’ll be a quota for LGBTQI…

  78. JC

    South Australia doesn’t have any decent coal deposits. It should be designated a nuclear hub, with a nuclear power station and the ability to service US or Brit built RAN nuclear subs. SA has also got plenty of nowhere to deposit (international) nuclear waste.

    Why? There’s plenty of brown coal in Victoria and I think SA is on the eastern grid. Build more power stations in Vic and sell SA the power. No biggie.

  79. JC

    Next it’ll be a quota for LGBTQI…

    That quota is already taken care of with Emily’s Listers.

  80. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Snoopy at 3:21 pm :

    “SA has also got plenty of nowhere to deposit (international) nuclear waste.”

    That’d be declared raaaaacist straight off the bat and they’d have to pay compensation to every wandering herdsman for hurt feelings.

  81. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    I just learned an acronym I didn’t know, for pillow biters.

  82. lotocoti

    Next it’ll be a quota for LGBTQI…

    You’ve forgotten the extra I for Inter-species.
    Denounce yourself now to the HRC.

  83. Motelier, that was the worst joke I’ve ever heard. You should be ashamed. (1013573)

  84. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Winston Smith at 3:40 pm:

    “Motelier, that was the worst joke I’ve ever heard. You should be ashamed. (1013573)”

    Motelier is not here Winston Smith.

    A while back the gendarmes arrived looking for him. He left with them.

    Shortly after there was a single shot ……

  85. NT Oldie

    South Australia has huge deposits of coal. The Lake Phillipson deposit adjacent to the Adelaide to Darwin Railway has 5,000 million tonnes.

    As for nuclear waste, South Australia has the contaminated Maralinga test site thanks to the Poms and it would make an ideal low level waste site. However it took another Pom named Rann some years ago to suck up to the Greens for preferences and so declare South Australia nuclear waste free.

  86. Tinta

    And Cardinal Burke said Mrs. Pelosi fits the definition.

    Now that’s a canon I like used on Pelosi

  87. Cold-Hands

    Much schadenfreude on ABC News Radio as the kiwis stand on the brink of the biggest sporting choke in history.

  88. Tinta

    I start cussing and embarassing Mr Beardsley when its name is mentioned. Even worse reaction when exposed to the sight or sound of it.

    Mrs Beardsley, I suffered especially from chronic Gillarditis, I was afraid I had a form of tourettes. At one stage I even coined a special 5-letter word comprising two 4-letter words to describe that particular PM. I can’t tell you what it is because it ends in -unt and Pickles is right, it is most indecorous for ladies to use -unt words except for those such as flaunt, taunt, vaunt, mount and blunt etc…

  89. dover_beach

    Canon 915 states that Catholics who are stubbornly contrary “in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”
    And Cardinal Burke said Mrs. Pelosi fits the definition.

    This should go without saying. Pelosi, Biden, etc. are a disgrace.

  90. Steve of Glasshouse

    Lotocoti..Next it’ll be a quota for LGBTQI…

    You’ve forgotten the extra I for Inter-species.
    Denounce yourself now to the HRC.

    That’s why the term “Alphabet people” should be used at every opportunity..

  91. Tinta

    Would you please ask the barbarian ( lower edge, right of centre) in the tin mixing bowl and dirty green habit, to kindly get his hand OFF the fair maiden’s left breast?

    Michael ever consider it might be you and not the artwork? They’re all men preparing for battle at Thermopylae, it could be the old guy is just saying farewell to his grandson. But I guess the eye of the beholder is all.

  92. Tom

    The Australian news media is 80% leftwing ferals so they are now reaping what they have sown. There will be no gotcha opportunities that haven’t first been approved by a new media sheriff in Abbott’s office:

    Tony Abbott’s press office has moved to crack down on media appearances by his frontbench, issuing an edict that all media requests for interviews be approved by the Prime Minister’s staff.

    A copy of an email sent to the Coalition’s ministerial media advisers at 5am on Wednesday, leaked to The Australia Financial Review, announces that former long-serving Coalition staffer Kate Walshe has joined the Abbott press office.

    Ms Walshe’s appointment comes in the wake of the retirement of veteran media chief Tony O’Leary and follows the promotion of former senior press secretary Andrew Hirst to the position of deputy chief of staff.

    The email, from Abbott press secretary James Boyce, says Ms Walshe will have overall responsibility for coordinating ministerial media.

    “All media coordination and requests should go through Kate first. This covers all national media interviews on television, radio and print. This includes any ABC local radio or ABC television interviews, the Sunday programmes, Sky News, and metropolitan print media longer-format interviews, etc,’’ it says.

    “With any regular appearances on shows such as Sky AM Agenda, they should first have been coordinated through Kate at least the day before; on the morning of the interview it is still best to speak with Russ Neal for the main daily issues and messages.”

    The edict comes after the Coalition’s decision to limit information made available to the media and the public about its Operation Sovereign Borders policy, which is designed to stop the arrival of asylum seekers by boat.

    Immigration Minister Scott Morrison has rejected criticism that the government is trying to stop the flow of information about boat arrivals, arguing that controlling the flow of information will assist in the fight against people smugglers.

    At the same time, Mr Abbott has scaled back his media appearances since he came to power and promised to deliver “a government that’s about the substance of getting things done, not about the theatre of putting things on the front page”.

    Former prime minister Kevin Rudd ran a similarly strict media operation when he first came to power in 2007, but over time the restrictions on ministerial media appearances were relaxed.

  93. JamesK

    This should go without saying. Pelosi, Biden, etc. are a disgrace.

    BD, as far as I know Pelosi is different.

    Biden says he is personally against it but won’t stand in the way when a majority are for it. He sez he doesn’t want to ‘force’ his views on others .

    Pelosi doesn’t even pretend not to support abortion personally.

  94. mct

    You’ve forgotten the extra I for Inter-species.

    You leave beagles out of this!

  95. brc

    I just learned an acronym I didn’t know, for pillow biters.

    Pillow biters? Pfft. Old joke.

    Crafty butchers as in, sneaks the sausages in through the back alley

    Usage : “didn’t you know Bob Brown was a crafty butcher?”
    Or, shorter…”that guy looks like a bit of a butcher if you ask me”

    ….with apologies to the meat preparation trade

  96. Aliice

    Twostix

    What was the Gillard Government thinking

    “hmm all these politically radicalised young people at uni, hey if all young people went to uni then all young people would be radicalised, what a boon that would be!” or do they think “hmm people with uni degrees generally earn more money, so if everyone had a uni degree everyone would earn more money!”

    None of that. They were thinking how many they could saddle up with a debt to the ATO by charging excessive hecs for very poor service and everything else the new uni elite managers could dream up to charge students and at the same time hide the real unemployment numbers. That is all. The allusions to 40% of the workforce with degrees was just smoke and mirrors to hide a far more base and greedy and entirely political motive (so they would look better than they were).

    You call it a heavy tax (in time and money) by any other name what has been done to some of these young people walking around uni campuses and if they are going to drop the bar to entry, they need to drop the bar to pass levels also and stop trying to be elitist in the face of the onslaught of normal kids who want a pathway to a job (not after years of batting away in uni at exorbitant costs).

    Either that or start introducing shorter more practical courses for some so they can get out sooner and get going in a paying career.

    That has never been on the agenda in unis. They now let anyone in and keep them there as painfully as possible for years. (double degrees that take longer have absolutely mushroomed everywhere. There isnt two degrees you cant string together in a Sydney uni now).

    Its misery, utter misery at great cost, the unis have imposed on many students Twostix. Further – dont even let me go on about how they have also created further suffering with internships that the unis themselves peddle to business. The unis mandated these “internship units” into many degrees and now the private sector want to pay intern wages for all sorts of cheapskate reasons. Plus many students cannot locate an internship despite the labour being cheap or free – too much demand from other students. Stupid unis have played a major role in this and the “interns” are being exploited both during their degrees and “intern wages” now in demand after they finish. The uni had no business hawking these students to the private sector on intern wages (in many cases free labour).

    More hindrance than help to young people IMO.

  97. Armadillo

    The Australian Government could learn a thing or two from the good people of Barbados. Just don’t answer any of your emails. Solves the problem of pesky journalists and the need for the NBN all in one go.

    I have been trying to contact a Law Firm in Barbados for the past month. Sent an email to a firm – no reply. Re-checked the email address at the Barbados Bar Association and re-sent it – no reply. Tried another firm – no reply. Tried another firm – no reply.

    Emailed the Barbados Bar Association to check if their listed email addresses are correct – no reply. Went to the Barbados High Court to ask them if the Barbados Bar Association had committed collective suicide and to suggest that someone should call around to “check on them”. No “Contact Us” on their website.

    In frustration, sent an email to the local online newspaper to ask if Barbados had been over run by email hating communists? Would they like me to contact the US Navy to send a ship past to confirm a visual sighting of signs of life? No reply.

    I give up.

  98. val majkus

    I give up.

    write a letter offering money for information

  99. Go Tiges

    The RAN would be interested in nuclear, but it would add 20 years to the process. Better to build our own subs now, and add nuclear down the track on a separate process.

    Wouldn’t we be buying/leasing the boats from the USA ready built?

    Leasing from the Yanks would be the go I reckon, while we still have some skilled sailors to crew them. Now the F111’s are gone, subs are the only offensive weapon we have.

  100. Aliice

    Egg is right

    And you do not need a qualification to be a ditch digger.

    Not any more.
    Whitecard, traffic control, etc. the list is probably growing thanks to the OHS industry.

    Stop and go sign holding now required a short course certification.
    WHS legislation is an extremely heavy handed cost blowout for everyone now including the hapless residents of unit blocks. Ridiculous. We really need massive legislation removal now. The prior government just got in everyones faces and in daily lives to an extraordinary extent (not helpful either) and Labor should take this ejection as a massive warning to get out of our faces and take their noble and costly ideas with them. WHS has imposed an absolute nightmare avalanche of paper reporting (much of it utter utter BS) on so many it is ridiculous – plus spurned an entire industry of people peddling expensive “help with your WHS Management Plan” writing.

    Insanely out of hand.

  101. Bons

    leaked to The Australia Financial Review,
    Tony has a mole in the house – find him – execute with lots of prejudice.

  102. Armadillo

    Ah Val. You may be able to assist? Heck, Barbadian laws are based on English laws. Besides, I’m curious (and desperate for someone/anyone to reply to me). It’s a pretty simple enquiry. Here’s the original email I sent to Carrington Seely Lawyers:

    Dear Sir,

    I have a brief enquiry involving Property Law in Barbados and am writing to enquire if a matter is worth pursuing.

    My wife and daughter are the two last remaining descendants of Mr. Thomas Peterkin. Thomas was a Solicitor in Barbados in the late 1800’s. His grave site is located in Barbados. Interestingly, in his will (he died in December 1900), Thomas bequeathed some money to a Mr. Herbert Montague Cummins (described in June 1900 as – “now no longer my testator’s clerk, but my business partner”). I wonder if the Mr. Cummins referred to is in fact some relation to your very own Mr. Henderson Cummins QC?

    Anyway, my enquiry is this. Whilst doing family research, I came across the following contained within “The Laws of Barbados”.

    Source (Year 1890): http://www.archive.org/stream/lawsbarbadosbya00barbgoog/lawsbarbadosbya00barbgoog_djvu.txt

    Text:

    BARBADOS.

    An Act to authorize Thomas Peterkin to drive piles and erect a bathing house in the sea opposite his place, called Super Mare, in the Parish of Christ Church,
    WHEREAS the said Thomas Peterkin has presented a petition to the Legislature of this Island, stating that he is the owner of a place, called Super Mare, in the parish of Christ Church in this Island, bounding (amongst other boundaries) on the seashore, and that he desires to drive piles and erect a bathing house in the sea opposite his said place; and praying that he his heirs and assigns may have legislative protection in the use and enjoyment of the said bathing house, and the exclusive right and benefit thereof ; And Whereas it is deemed expedient to grant the prayer of the said petition ; Be it therefore enacted by the Governor, Council, and Assembly of this Island, and by the authority of the same, as follows;

    LAWS OF BARBADOS

    The said Thomas Peterkin and his heirs, is authorized to erect and assigns may drive piles and erect a bathing house in the sea opposite his place called Super Mare in the parish of Christ Church in this Island, and may from time to for his sole benefit, time repair, alter or remove the said bathing house; and the said bathing house so to be erected and built, shall be to and for the sole use and benefit of the said Thomas Peterkin and his heirs and assigns forever.

    Assuming that the above law still forms part of the “Laws of Barbados”, and the bath house is still there, would this matter be worth pursuing?

    Kindest Regards

  103. JC

    Armadillo

    It’s the caribbean FFS. No one gives a crap about nothing there. Everyone works on slow motion.

    You’ll be lucky to get a reply by mid 2015.
    Stop being so pushy or you’ll really piss them off and you never get an answer.

  104. papachango

    Should you do extreme weightlifting when 8.5 months pregnant? Seems one lady doing so has generated a fair bit of controversy – both for and against.

    Provided her doctors has given that all-clear that there’s no risk to her unborn child then I’d say good on her for keeping fit while pregnant, but if she’s wilfully ignoring a significant risk to the baby I’d say it’s criminally negligent (and this from one who is pro-choice for early term abortion)

    Interestingly enough though in the debate no-one seems to know nor care about this little fact. She cops a lot of abuse from zealots saying she’s harming her baby, with little to back up their opinions.

    But the other side defending her have a pretty disturbing viewpoint as well – probably best summed up by this sentence:

    “Man with big belly does overhead squats and nobody cares. Woman with big belly does overhead squats and everyone loses their minds”

    Fascinating… a unborn child that could survive if delivered by caesarian has the same status as a lump of fatty tissue…or put another way, what’s in the ‘belly’ doesn’t seem to exist and shouldn’t given any consideration according to the ‘progressives’.
    Once again I don’t share the religious conservative view on abortion, but I find this mindset profoundly disturbing as well..

  105. Gab

    Should you do extreme weightlifting when 8.5 months pregnant?

    Who gives a stuff.

  106. JC

    Lol

    You expect a reply for that? It’s a variation of a Nigerian scam letter. No one is going to respond to that least of all for nothing.

  107. Myrrdin Seren

    I suspect a number of Cats will be interested in this article from Canada:

    How Jeffrey Sachs failed to save Africa

    ( h/t Smalldeadanimals.com )

  108. Driftforge

    Cruz filibuster still going. Must be the wee hours of the morning over there. Lee & Cruz holding constitutional lessons for all who care to listen.

    Damnit but it would be good to have causes championed like that over here.

  109. dover_beach

    Once again I don’t share the religious conservative view on abortion, but I find this mindset profoundly disturbing as well..

    You find the religious conservative view “profoundly disturbing”?

  110. Driftforge

    Leasing from the Yanks would be the go I reckon

    My understanding is that both the Brit’s and the Yank’s have said no.

  111. Steve D

    Antony Green has posted a blow-by-blow summary of the final Tasmanian Senate results.

    After the Liberals and ALP scored two seats each from a standing start, the Sex Party got pipped by the remaining ALP candidate by 244 votes (due to those that voted below the line compared to the approximation of assuming all votes follow the ticket), and then the LDP lost out to the PUP by 1276 votes and thereby allowed PUP to score the last seat.

  112. dragnet

    Hey Armadillo, you consider yourself lucky that you dealing with Barbados! I have dealings in Guyana which is further down the ladder from Barbados!

  113. dover_beach

    Driftforge, it must be coming up to 4 am EST.

  114. Armadillo

    It’s a variation of a Nigerian scam letter. No one is going to respond to that least of all for nothing.

    OK, good advice. I might have to try a different “angle”. When Mrs Armadillo visited in 1976 the guys at the cemetery tracked them down to the hotel and wanted to know if they were interested in selling any plots at the cemetery (there is room for about another 10 in the old blokes plot). They declined at the time. Barbados is tiny and has been running out of burial plots for years. They recently auctioned some off and got between $15K to $20K each for them. None of us are planning on getting flown over there to get buried.

    Besides, I want to know who the hell has been swimming in our fucking pool without our permission.

  115. Armadillo

    I have dealings in Guyana which is further down the ladder from Barbados!

    Where does this ladder lead exactly? Underground?

  116. Tom

    After pretending there was nothing to see as illegal immigrants flooded into the country at the rate of 3000 people per month, the hypocritical humbug hyperbowl from the howler monkeys is spectacular:

    Labor has seized upon reports of a boat arriving in Darwin, accusing Immigration Minister Scott Morrison of going into hiding on the issue of asylum seekers.

    On Wednesday, Channel Nine reported that a boat carrying about 19 people, who are understood to be asylum seekers, arrived in Darwin overnight.

    But under a new policy, introduced by the Coalition government, Australian authorities no longer announce when a boat has arrived in Australian waters, and are not able to confirm reports.

    It was reported that the group was brought into Fort Hill Wharf in Darwin Harbour before being placed on a bus on Tuesday evening.

    Advertisement ”It appears another boat arrived and was taken into Darwin Harbour last night,” Mr Bowen told reporters in Sydney on Wednesday.

    ”A boat that Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison don’t want us to know about.”
    ……
    Australian authorities have picked up an estimated nine boats carrying asylum seekers since the September 7 election.

    Addressing the media on Monday, Mr Morrison said he would not go into tactical or operational details in his planned weekly briefings, including whether a boat had been turned back.

    Ahem, I stand to be corrected, but I think this is only the second boat since the Abbott government was sworn in with fewer than 100 illegals in total.

  117. Gab

    Oh thanks goodness. Something about politics.

  118. woolfe

    It would be fitting if the USA Americas cup Cat was named “Quade”.

  119. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    from brc at 4:38 pm:

    ” I just learned an acronym I didn’t know, for pillow biters.

    Pillow biters? Pfft. Old joke.”

    Errr – no brc, you’re getting ahead of yourself.

    “An acronym”, courtesy JC at 3:25pm, “LGBTQI”.

  120. dragnet

    The Guyanese people who visit Barbados come back to Guyana thinking “why can’t we be as advanced and prosperous as the Bajans?” …..it’s all a matter of perspective!!!

  121. Armadillo

    Ahem, I stand to be corrected, but I think this is only the second boat since the Abbott government was sworn in with fewer than 100 illegals in total.

    Tom, I’m pretty sure there has only been one (not including the one you cite above) since being signed into office.

  122. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From woolfe at 5:28 pm:

    “It would be fitting if the USA Americas cup Cat was named “Quade”.”

    Oh goodie, another opportunity to boo a thief, and a useless one at that.

  123. Tinta

    How Jeffrey Sachs failed to save Africa

    He hasn’t been deterred though I’m sure he was looking for other nations to save because the Africans just didn’t do it his way.

  124. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Should you do extreme weightlifting when 8.5 months pregnant?

    No, you should not. You put your baby at unacceptable risk from your ruptured uterus, your pulmonary embolism, your unusual blood hormones, your burst bladder, an insufficient uterine blood flow, a ripped placenta, an abnormal uterine pressure, and a possible positional twisting of the umbilical cord.

    You could also do something to harm yourself, which you would probably deserve for your stupidity.

    I’ve chopped wood and carried quite heavy loads of it indoors when eight months pregnant, so I am not a nanny about pregnancy, but some doctors will tell women anything they want to hear. Pregnancy is a risky business for a child, birth even more so. Why take extraordinary risks? This is a life we are talking about, not a lump of nuisance.

  125. calli

    Evening all. Nice tidy new thread too…I cleaned up the broken furniture from last night and popped it in the skip…I ordered a 4 cube just in case this evening is a repeat.

    Good to see that Jules has a book deal – given her past real estate dealings, I think Random House is an inspired choice as a publisher.

    I shall await the remaindered tables outside my local newsagent, however.

  126. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Subs?

    We’ve been talking to the Japanese about the Soryu class. Good boat.

  127. Armadillo

    Good to see that Jules has a book deal

    And a free platform on which to sell it – their ABC.

  128. Combine Dave

    My understanding is that both the Brit’s and the Yank’s have said no.

    I thought they offered and we said no?

  129. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    ‘Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, Queer, Intersex’ – is that right for that acronym?

    (Queer and Gay are seen as different I know, but I have quite fathomed the difference yet).

    Also on terminologies:

    the Thrusting Phallus of the Patriarchy™

    Mick, I suspect there are quite a few old guys who would be chuffed indeed to bear this moniker.

    And some not-so-old ones too. I must ask Da Hairy Ape for his views when he gets home and we start to discuss with each other our day.

  130. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    aaarkk – ‘haven’t fathomed’, haven’t, haven’t not have

    Perhaps ‘Queer’ is the more intellectual version, ‘Gay’ for the Mardi-Gras types?

  131. Tapdog

    H B Bear
    #1013568, posted on September 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Gillard’s autobiography can go straight into the fiction section.

    Conscientious Cats all over the country please take note. Ensure the shelves of your local bookstore are properly arranged.

  132. Combine Dave

    Japanese Soryu class

    Very cool. I am going to annoy the missus by spending the next 15 mins reading about the above (aloud).

  133. brc

    rom brc at 4:38 pm:

    ” I just learned an acronym I didn’t know, for pillow biters.

    Pillow biters? Pfft. Old joke.”

    Errr – no brc, you’re getting ahead of yourself.

    “An acronym”, courtesy JC at 3:25pm, “LGBTQI”.

    Geez settle down – I was only trying to introduce a new term to replace pillow biters. I know it was about an acronym – that was my segue into using the hilarious (to me) ‘crafty butcher’

    Next time I shall submit a formal request to post a humorous comment and notify all of my intent!

  134. Carpe Jugulum

    Japanese Soryu class

    A very nice boat with good speed, some additional reading

    http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/sssoryuclasssubmarin/

  135. Sea Wolf

    Driftforge, not the case. Mk50, concur but VAs are the solution.

  136. nic

    Japanese have Soryu, we bought Usory

  137. Combine Dave

    @Carpe,

    Have they seen any operational use?

  138. JC

    The person to blame for establishing the climate authoritarians is Combet. That was his doing and he stuck Happy Hamilton on the board in order to stop him from pissing in the tent. Unfreakingbelieveable.

    However all that’s forgiven because he stuck Bernie chairman on the board for no other reason than that winsome smile of his.

  139. Leigh Lowe

    Japanese Soryu class

    A very nice boat with good speed …

    Didn’t we have a Soryu class of aircraft carrier at one stage?
    As in ….. Soryu Get In My Way

  140. Armadillo

    Did I miss something? On “The Dumb” there was some mention of an embarassing moment for “Little Billy” where he was caught out having a “plant” ask a question in last night debate. His answer was basically he wanted to be remembered as the one who looked after the “disenfranchised” or some crap. Saw something about a taxi driver, but don’t recall seeing anything about the debate reported.

  141. Armadillo

    but don’t recall seeing anything about the debate reported

    Yeah, OK ignore that. Just read Bolta.

  142. Myrrdin Seren

    Japanese Soryu class

    A very nice boat with good speed, some additional reading

    And cup holders – lots of cup holders

  143. Carpe Jugulum

    Have they seen any operational use?

    Some shadow patrols around the Senkaku’s is about all i know.

    Not the article i was trying to find but it is some minor background;

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/asia/china/AJ201303070111

  144. Carpe Jugulum

    And cup holders – lots of cup holders

    And these really neat little hooks to hang your take-away food on. :p

  145. 2dogs

    Concerning this, I think the best solution is for Pyne to fund University courses in proportion to HECS-HELP recoveries.

    This will:
    * keep to his election promises;
    * favour higher quality courses; and,
    * not involve picking winners.

  146. Carpe Jugulum

    Didn’t we have a Soryu class of aircraft carrier at one stage?

    the photos at the link are good, (yes i got the joke) 🙂

    http://combinedfleet.com/ships/soryu

  147. Soryu Get In My Way

    I had a friend, work colleague anyway, who was involved in comms in Russell Offices the night Voyager went down. Not a duty session you’d want to repeat.

  148. Steve of Glasshouse

    Lizzie.. snip ” Also on terminologies:

    the Thrusting Phallus of the Patriarchy™

    Mick, I suspect there are quite a few old guys who would be chuffed indeed to bear this moniker.”

    As long as it doesn’t involve a conga line..

  149. Benevolent Patriarchy if you don’t mind!

  150. nic

    Phallocrats lads, phallocrats

  151. Combine Dave

    Thanks Carpe.

    I won’t share that last one with the wife. She gets mighty sensitive when it comes to disputed* islands.

    * Officially, on the Japan side at least, there is no dispute.

  152. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Soryu get in my way

    All the attempts to hang the blame on the captain of the “Melbourne” and the Navy seemed curiously reluctant to contront the fact that the captain of “Voyager” may, or may not, have been fit for command.

  153. nic

    I won’t share that last one with the wife. She gets mighty sensitive when it comes to disputed* islands.

    Oh you mean the Diaoyus? 🙂

  154. Eyrie

    lotocoti
    #1013658, posted on September 25, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Next it’ll be a quota for LGBTQI…

    You’ve forgotten the extra I for Inter-species.
    Denounce yourself now to the HRC.

    In ‘Ringworld” by larry Niven, interspecies sex is known as “risthrasra”

  155. ‘Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, Queer, Intersex’ – is that right for that acronym?

    First, LGBTIQ is not an acronym (unless you’ve found an interestingly new way of pronouncing LGBTIQ as a word) but an initialism; second, the Q is for “questioning”, not “queer”.

  156. jupes

    Yea I reckon go with the Jap subs. They have a history of building innovative subs.

    Like the subs used in the attack on Sydney harbour which could launch aircraft or midget subs.

    Or check out these bad boys.

    70 years later and it takes us five times as long to build subs with no where near the capability.

  157. Combine Dave

    Phallocrats lads, phallocrats

    And our leader is “biggest di….”

  158. Cold-Hands

    ‘Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, Queer, Intersex’ – is that right for that acronym?

    The Q can be “Queer or Questioning” but the whole thing is becoming ridiculous. Alphabet soup.

  159. Armadillo

    Why don’t they build “drone subs” (like the aircraft)?

  160. C.L.

    … the Q is for “questioning”, not “queer”.

    A lovestruck Romeo sings the streets a serenade
    Laying everybody low with a lovesong that he made
    Finds a streetlight steps out of the shade
    Says something like, ‘you and me babe – how about it?’

  161. the Q is for “questioning”

    Or, in some cases, questionable.

  162. Gab

    That’s just so…so…heteronormative, CL. I’m appalled.

  163. Cold-Hands

    “risthrasra”

    Is defined as interspecies sex within hominid species. So no beagles.

  164. Why don’t they build “drone subs” (like the aircraft)?

    It will be all like that eventually. Then, shades of P.G. Wodehouse, instead of the Officers Mess it’ll be the Drones Club.

  165. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    The I-400 class were a little different, underwater aircraft carriers would be.

    Sea Wolf, agree on the USN SSN, but we’d have to build a heck of a lot of infrastructure for them. The reactors are great these days as they never have to be refuelled.

    Lord knows there are enough ex-USN SSN techies and nuclear steam kettle engineers to hire, and we’d not actually have to base the damned things at PH. Lease and then buy MOTS would be the go.

  166. Steve of Glasshouse

    Popular Science pulls the pin on comments

  167. Eyrie

    Aliice, this is just an extension of the old “you need a customs agent to clear these goods”. Write complex regulations in obscure wording and knock back anyone trying to do it themselves. Where do customs officers go after retirement – why they become customs agents and their mates make sure nobody can do it without hiring them.

    Same applies to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority. To run a flying school to teach people to fly Cessnas you need an Operations Manual as CASA can’t be arsed to write some simple regulations to cover this. The process can take years. Who “helps” people with this? – why it is former CASA employees who will write your ops manual – for a price.

    Fortunately there is no corruption in Australia.

  168. Risthrasra – sounds like something hybridised from Lord of The Rings and the Kama Sutra – but not good.

  169. C.L.

    That may be true, Tom, but I for one expect Abbott and Morrison to STOP the boats.

    I don’t want to hear any bullshit about how the ‘asylum seekers’ are being sent offshore in super-dooper quick time. No. They have to STOP the boats. If they don’t do so and don’t set in concrete a modus operandi that no future government would dare alter, this country will have absolutely zero border sovereignty when Labor is next elected to office.

  170. a modus operandi that no future government would dare alter

    But the last mob did just that. It could happen again unless there’s a culture change on the dreaded left. Or they become more centrist.

  171. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    heh. From Theo Spark

  172. C.L.

    Gillard’s upcoming memoir: any suggestions for a title?

    Allow me to get the ball rolling …

    Apologia Pro Vita Sewer.*

    * Apologies, Eminence.

  173. nic

    Oh gawd, this was both witty and fun, now someone has gone and mentioned ‘Alice’

  174. Combine Dave

    Oh you mean the Diaoyus?

    Exactly. Who would have thought that ancient chinese fishing grounds would prove so troublesome?

  175. C.L.

    Apparently, Cruz read Green Eggs and Ham duing his (continuing) filibuster

    LOL.

  176. nic

    Gillard’s upcoming memoir: any suggestions for a title?

    How to rise to the top with only one twat working for you
    Australia, my part in its downfall
    Red all about it!
    Neither AC nor DC, Its a long way to the top when you’re a red headed moll

  177. nic

    Exactly. Who would have thought that ancient chinese fishing grounds would prove so troublesome?

    Coincidently when doing test drills they found oil and gas and not faeces

  178. Driftforge

    Ted Cruz is still talking!

    I’ve been checking in through the day – through the night there – he’s done a stand up job. A good bit of support from Mike Lee, too.

    A new day dawns.

  179. C.L.

    JC put me on toe Cruz a few weeks ago.

    His resume is astonishing.

    Wiki it.

  180. Driftforge

    filibuster Live.

    Mike Lee on at the moment. Asking a ‘question’.

  181. Andrew

    Amusing to see radical left student unionists on the News tonight complaining about the return of VSU who I know of.

  182. Driftforge

    Apparently, Cruz read Green Eggs and Ham duing his (continuing) filibuster

    His kids were watching. Bed time stories. Credit where due.

  183. Driftforge

    Amusing to see radical left student unionists on the News tonight complaining about the return of VSU who I know of.

    Nothing but happiness with this change on campus today. SSAF has been despised.

  184. val majkus

    Ah Val. You may be able to assist?

    Hi Armadillo – a couple of things come to mind:
    1. currently in whose name is the land on which the piles and boathouse were to be erected – I’m assuming Barbados has some form of land title and this question should be able to be answered by a local solicitor or real estate agent
    2 depending on the answer to the above if the land is currently in a stranger’s name – is there some way of ascertaining the movement of titles from one party to the other – if Barbados has a register of land titles this question should be able to be fairly easily answered by reference to the register by any person with access to it
    3 It’s been quite some time since December 1900 – that legislation referred to as an ‘Act’ may have lapsed or some person may have established possessory title to the land – the usual period for the establishment of that title is 30 years
    4 it would be interesting to see which solicitor obtained probate of Mr Peterkin’s will – only because it’s strange that your wife only found out about the boatshed and pile land through historical research rather than it being expressed as a gift in another Peterkin descendant’s will;
    5 the last thought is that the boatshed and piles may have become ruined through disuse in which case the land reverted as ‘the Act’ only seems to refer to the boatshed and not the land

    I hope I understood the situation – I think I did

  185. C.L.

    And because Ted Cruz is so brilliant and gutsy, it follows that GOP establishmentarians are reportedly trying to drestroy him.

  186. Gab

    Any chance this ongoing personal Barbados issue could be carried out elsewhere?

  187. Armadillo

    Any chance this ongoing personal Barbados issue could be carried out elsewhere?

    Sure Gab. Think I’m catching up for a beer with Val when she comes up this way. Hey, I only asked a question (thanks for the reply Val). It is the “open forum” – but I guess that you have pretty hard and fast rules that you only like “politics” discussed here (judging from your comment up thread). Fine.

  188. Honesty

    David Suzuki is to climate science what Uri Geller is to physics. Both were exposed as charlatans on TV, thanks to Johhny Carson and Tony Jones.
    Suck it up Snowcone and wipe that organic egg off your face. <3

  189. nic

    I thought it was interesting and certainly no less valid than some of the other topics that get a run here ad nauseum

  190. jupes

    David Suzuki expose No 2

    LOL Bet the ABC are now regretting their roll in his beclowning.

  191. Aliice

    Title for Julia’s upcoming book?

    Nanny’s state guide on how to gain accreditation to knit baby booties.

  192. Septimus

    Oh thanks goodness. Something about politics.

    Politics? Noooo … and here was I about to mention tonight’s dinner … tender barbequed pork scotch fillets with oriental fried rice, fresh salad leaves, baby roma tomatoes and Lebanese cucumber slices, accompanied by a couple of glasses of Audrey Wilkinson Hunter Valley Rosé 2012 … but I thought maybe I’d better not 😉

    PS. I had a Toohey’s Extra Dry while barbequing the pork.

  193. val majkus

    Think I’m catching up for a beer with Val when she comes up this way

    still working out my itinerary Armadillo – how can I get in touch?

  194. Gab

    Yes, it’s strange to want to read and discuss politics and economics on a blog that was set-up for that, Armadillo. I don’t mind the personal anecdotes and the mummyblogging that goes on here when it’s in small doses. Lately that’s all this blog seems to focus on in the open thread. It’s almost as if people feel compelled to write crap here just to fill in space.

  195. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Elizabeth (Lizzie) B. at 5:53 pm :

    “Also on terminologies:

    the Thrusting Phallus of the Patriarchy™

    Mick, I suspect there are quite a few old guys who would be chuffed indeed to bear this moniker.”

    I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry or book a table for two at the local discotheque Elizabeth!

    As it turns out your advice alerts me that the Rabzza has done wonderful things for my flagging self belief, fragile confidence, difficulty in expressing myself, unsettling preference to stay indoors and reluctance to go home.

  196. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    I see what Gabrielle just said and now fear I am going to cop it big time for that plaintive cry for help!!!

  197. Armadillo

    how can I get in touch?

    Let me know when you get yourself sorted Val. I’ll figure it out then. Again, thanks for the reply.

  198. dover_beach

    Ted Cruz is a star. Of course, the same-sex Senators, McCain and Graham as well as McConnell and Cantor, and there cheerleaders in the media,incl. Rove, are making life difficult for him and other Tea Party Republicans. I hold the former in less esteem than Obama and Pelosi.

  199. Lysander

    I don’t think this is against the rules but I’m helping someone draft an essay structure on the following question and just need some rough guidance (like good sources – people lie Hume, Popper and Kuhn):

    Explain the philosophical differentiation between science and pseudo science.

    Any thoughts?

  200. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Hmm. Gillard’s book.

    ‘The Slapper Who F*cked Australia’

  201. C.L.

    I hold the former in less esteem than Obama and Pelosi.

    Ditto.

  202. Armadillo

    It’s almost as if people feel compelled to write crap here just to fill in space.

    All people or just some people? Why do I get the feeling I’m about to be “Shoss’ed”.

  203. Tom

    I don’t mind the personal anecdotes and the mummyblogging that goes on here when it’s in small doses. Lately that’s all this blog seems to focus on in the open thread. It’s almost as if people feel compelled to write crap here just to fill in space.

    x2.

  204. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From nic at 7:44 pm:

    ” Gillard’s upcoming memoir: any suggestions for a title?

    How to rise to the top with only one twat working for you
    Australia, my part in its downfall
    Red all about it!
    Neither AC nor DC, Its a long way to the top when you’re a red headed moll”

    Nice work nic, repeating these facts lends truth and substance to the legacy as a counter to the one they will strive manfully to invent for the witch.

  205. val majkus

    Let me know when you get yourself sorted Val

    no probs, I can post here the motel I choose, always had a penchant for the Powerhouse – never stayed there though

  206. Rebel with cause

    Gillard’s book – “The Witch That Got Ditched”

  207. Septimus

    It’s almost as if people feel compelled to write crap here just to fill in space.

    Should C.L. be ostracized for this?

  208. honesty

    Gillards book could be a tongue twister “how I was rat fucked by the the rat fucker I rat fucked”

  209. Thanks to all those who wished me and my wife well.

    How many Cats have been blessed by the Pope? In your face, CL! 😉

  210. Combine Dave

    ” Gillard’s upcoming memoir: any suggestions for a title?

    Howard’s was Lazarath Rising so Gillard’s should be:

    “SLAPPER: The Downfall.”

  211. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From JC at 6:42 pm:

    “The person to blame for establishing the climate authoritarians is Combet. That was his doing and he stuck Happy Hamilton on the board in order to stop him from pissing in the tent. Unfreakingbelieveable.

    However all that’s forgiven because he stuck Bernie chairman on the board for no other reason than that winsome smile of his.”

    Bernie was, of course, the economics High Priest of Labor 1990s, predecessor to Comrade Wombat Whisperer FIGJAM Henry. Nugget Coombs stood guard over the Holy Grail of steal from the wealthy to fete the indolent through the Whitlam Epoch.

  212. Armadillo

    I can post here the motel I choose here

    No worries (but it might be better if you get Motelier to do that for you – on topic and all that stuff).

  213. Combine Dave

    Gillards book could be a tongue twister “how I was rat fucked by the the rat fucker I rat fucked”

    The inevitable ABC Telemovie would be “R” rated for rat fking.

  214. candy

    Thanks to all those who wished me and my wife well.

    I didn’t wish you well then Monty, but saw the pic, and your wife is very pretty and I thought the colour of her wedding frock was just beautiful. Good karma! xxx candy.

  215. Tom

    Sincere good wishes, Mont. I hope you have a great life together.

  216. C.L.

    How many Cats have been blessed by the Pope?

    Any couple can arrange it. Here’s how.

    Congratulations again, Monty.

  217. jupes

    It’s almost as if people feel compelled to write crap here just to fill in space.

    I blame Abbott.

    We were blessed for six years with a bunch of absolute incompetents in government. Their stuff ups were so prolific that there weren’t enough threads to keep up with them, so plenty of topics spilled over onto the OT.

    Now we have a government that is competent. Boringly so.

  218. dover_beach

    Monty, good coffee can be had at the Grey Dog. Nice pie as well. Just south of Union Square on University Place. You’ll both enjoy it.

  219. calli

    Hehheh, Gab.

    Guess what, I’ve got one eye on the Cat, and the other on ‘The Mummy’. Imhotep…Imhotep… 😀

  220. C.L.

    Should C.L. be ostracized for this?

    Is there something you want to say, Septimus?

    If so, just say it manfully and don’t be a bitch about it.

  221. H B Bear

    Just caught a bit of The Lying Slapper on SBS (Socialist Broadcasting Service) saying she was lucky that she was a good typist. Unfortunately, she omitted to say that much of this was done in the service of the Communist Party of Australia aka the Socialist Forum, where she also picked up some loose book-keeping skills too.

  222. Gab

    Times change. I’m just not used to people treating this blog like twitter , filling up the space with inane streams of consciousness. Guess I’ll just have to accept that’s how this blog will be.

  223. Septimus

    Make that three glasses of the Audrey Wilkinson Rosé … and a change of musical tempo tonight … Ellie Goulding’s Halcyon CD now playing … to be followed by the Late Night Moods 3 double CD album, the perfect after hours soundtrack.

  224. kae

    I suppose that makes you a mummy blogger!

  225. So I am guessing you haven’t been blessed by the Pope, CL. Sucks to be you.

  226. Septimus

    Is there something you want to say, Septimus?

    Nah C.L. …just being facetious … no nastiness implied or intended.

  227. C.L.

    I haven’t paid a fee to be sent a papal blessing certificate, Monty, no.

  228. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Nah C.L. …just being facetious … no nastiness implied or intended.”

    I considered being mischievous at Our Gabrielle but tonight’s not a good night for that, evidently. 🙂

  229. C.L.

    My apologies, then, Septimus.

  230. Tom

    The hell are you doing awake in LA at 4am, Mont?

  231. Combine Dave

    Congrats Monty,
    Remember happy wife! Happy life!

  232. Aussieute

    twostix – #1013516
    A close friend was a tutor in an undergraduate Medical Science degree course and faced similar issues.
    Aussies who entered the course and can’t spell or communicate in any sensible manner and OS students who have little or no spoken English skills and cannot write legibly.

    First year she was told all had to pass … she refused to comply and is no longer a tutor.
    As a PhD student she was told to leave the same institution (pay back) and is now completing in another uni.

  233. dover_beach

    He’s in NYC, Tom. It’s 7 am.

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