Wednesday Forum: September 25, 2013

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  1. Went to bed at 7pm local time after not sleeping much on the 14 hour plane flight and pretty much doing an all nighter on jet lag, the time zones in my head are all screwed up.

  2. .

    Dear degenerates,

    Can I get a better upplier than Cigar Hut?

    Their service seems to be very good. Just got some Vanilla Jewels and a Sarome pipe lighter.

    Want a new pipe, ashtray, humidor, Sarome SD7 lighter, restock cherry pipe hooch and some decent plain cigars.

    Do I need a cigar cutter?

    I would like a “nice” new pipe and a decent ashtray. Also a halfway decent pipe tobacco. Doesn’t seem to be much range here in Australia. A pi[e tool might be a worthy addition to thumbing and pipe cleaners.

  3. I am actually still in LA on a day’s stopover. The plane to NY is in five hours.

  4. dragnet

    Yes of course its a politics and economics blog, but somedays it really is like Groundhog Day, so a few tangential diversions every now n then are good for the soul.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    I see a report today that the top brass might have been asleep at the wheel resulting in the deaths of three diggers at the hands of a nut-bag in Afghanistan.
    I was waiting to see David Hurley standing at the podium, outraged at this lapse … you know, like when he got outraged at a few soldiers sending grubby e-mails. Sadly, no sign of him today.
    I was waiting for one of the fat lezzo Army lawyers to threaten legal action against all involved in these horrific murders. Nup. No joy there either. Obviously too busy investigating the SAS for allegedly kicking some towel-head’s mangy dog in the guts.

  6. Gab

    but somedays it really is like Groundhog Day,

    True. Seven people in a row saying the same thing about Labor, just using different words, makes it seem so.

  7. Tom

    DB, I’m being attentive. Mont told us he has 2 days in LA at either end of the NY honeymoon.

  8. .

    Leave monty alone. I’ll get married by Cardinal Pell.

    I think C.L. would be jealous.

    The beauty part would be any lefty miscreants would be subject to head popping.

  9. Aaron

    A suggestion for Gillard’s book title:

    The Hunt for Red September: Things that went Wong in my Swan song

  10. .

    First year she was told all had to pass … she refused to comply and is no longer a tutor.
    As a PhD student she was told to leave the same institution (pay back) and is now completing in another uni.

    I’ve seen that happen a few times. All unis in Australia expect postgrads to do miracles and you can basically turn up and just write enough words and get any non pure maths undergraduate degree.

    Which unis do not soft mark?

    Zilch.

  11. C.L.

    I love how Abbott is creating something new for the office of prime minister: mystique.

    What a change from the Gillard/Rudd version of Australia’s national life – according to which their appearances, utterances and “announceables” were (in their own imagination) the very definitional rudiments of that life.

    “We are us” was really just cover for “L’État, c’est moi.”

  12. JamesK

    I hold the former in less esteem than Obama and Pelosi.

    Ditto.

    That’s just nuts.

    Shooting fellow right of centre politicians is the right-wing disease.

    Leftists don’t usually do it.

    Rudd is a freak in that regard alone.

    Charles Krauthammer reckons Cruz – who is a very very intelligent man and one of the best and most experienced legal advocates to appear on many occasions before the Supreme Court – will help himself but damage the GOP.

    I hope Cruz pulls a procedural rabbit outa the hat on Wednesday otherwise it is difficult to see how it’s helpful and somewhat easier to see how it might be harmful.

    Having said that Cruz has the ability to argue conservatism and since Thatcher and Reagan we haven’t had that.

  13. Tom

    Leave monty alone.

    Exactly. The mystery of life is complicated enough without being wished ill.

  14. Armadillo

    but tonight’s not a good night for that, evidently

    Throw a cushion and see what happens. I know you want to Mick. You just can’t help yourself.

  15. candy

    I love how Abbott is creating something new for the office of prime minister: mystique.

    That’s a stupid thing to say.

    People are wondering where the PM is and what he thinks. The whole non-media thing is a big puzzle. The less he appears, the more wrong inferences are made about policies.

  16. C.L.

    I’ll get married by Cardinal Pell.

    I think C.L. would be jealous.

    Go for it. He’d probably do it if you asked nicely.

    But no, I wouldn’t be jealous. I like the Catholic wedding in Braveheart.

    The ministers of the sacrament are YOU and your beloved. Not the priest.

  17. brc

    I blame Abbott.

    We were blessed for six years with a bunch of absolute incompetents in government. Their stuff ups were so prolific that there weren’t enough threads to keep up with them, so plenty of topics spilled over onto the OT.

    Now we have a government that is competent. Boringly so.

    I warned many times were we in a policital scandal golden age that wouldn’t be repeated any time soon. Thomson, slipper, AWU-WRA, Rudd knifing, Gillard Knifing, leaks, screwups and a 9 month long election campaign.

    Most political junkies are gong to get serious withdrawal symptoms and a staged handbag fight between Albanese and Shorten just ain’t going to cut the mustard.

  18. Motelier

    I can post here the motel I choose here

    No worries (but it might be better if you get Motelier to do that for you – on topic and all that stuff).

    Amadillo, I own motels. not a recommendation

    Bugger me. I wander in at lunch time after sanding and painting in the hot sun, make a political comment about education, and Mick has me dragged out and shot, other accuse me of telling bad jokes, and others still did not think hard enough about the comment and where it was placed.

    Oh Dear. I think I will have to go and sit with Gab. Political speak only. No recipes “sorry lizzie”, and no feeling jealous of Septimus about his evening repasts.

    If I have to I will sit on the side and watch the goings on without comment. I do think that last nights brawl was a good one and I did enjoy reading all of the comments.

  19. Gab

    That’s a stupid thing to say.

    People are wondering where the PM is and what he thinks.

    On the Price/Bolt show a number of callers and emailers expressed how great it was not to have the Prime Minister in our face daily like he was some celebrity and prefer that he be getting on with the job.
    I don’t understand this need for the PM to be in the media just to speak empty rhetoric. Rudd did that daily as did gillard.

  20. Armadillo

    Rudd is a freak in that regard alone

    Interesting point on “The Dumb” tonight about TLS and her book. Apparently Rimmer and Little Billy aren’t too keen on it’s release. Rimmer is tipped to counter with the first volume of his ten tome epic of what really happened.

  21. The hell are you doing awake in LA at 4am, Mont?

    Monty is on his honeymoon Tom, do try to keep up! (or should that instruction be for M… oops!)

  22. .

    Come on you degenerates. Throw me a frickin bone here (9.10 pm).

  23. Gab

    Bugger me. I wander in at lunch time after sanding and painting in the hot sun, make a political comment about education, and Mick has me dragged out and shot, other accuse me of telling bad jokes, and others still did not think hard enough about the comment and where it was placed.

    Oh Dear. I think I will have to go and sit with Gab. Political speak only. No recipes “sorry lizzie”, and no feeling jealous of Septimus about his evening repasts.

    If I have to I will sit on the side and watch the goings on without comment. I do think that last nights brawl was a good one and I did enjoy reading all of the comments.

    Oh dear, getting a bit precious and a tad sulky. I simply expressed how this blog is changing from what it once was. I made no mention of anyone except asking Armadillo if those personal type of conversations could be taken elsewhere. I made no mention of you either, Motelier.

  24. Tom

    Candy, calm down. It will take some time for us to get over being over-stimulated and frightened daily by people addicted to controlling us.

  25. nic

    How many Cats have been blessed by the Pope?

    Moi, from JPII

  26. Tom

    Come on you degenerates. Throw me a frickin bone here (9.10 pm).

    Hahaha. Dot wants an argument. LOL.

  27. .

    RIGHT

    A DOSE OF WHAT IS NEEDED

    WHY FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING DESTROYS MORALITY AND ENTRENCHES…

    Trust me. You don’t want to go back.

    “GMB” is the trigrammaton of Azazel, folks.

  28. Armadillo

    The ministers of the sacrament are YOU and your beloved. Not the priest.

    Interesting you say that CL. Went to a wedding recently and the priest pointed exactly that out. It’s the only sacrament in the Catholic church that is not a “contract” between you and God. It’s between the husband and wife alone.

  29. Leigh Lowe

    Leave monty alone.

    Exactly. The mystery of life is complicated enough without being wished ill.

    Agreed.
    mUnter is going to have enough to deal with when the inevitable separation happens in a couple of week’s time.
    No … I am not talking about Mrs mUnter.
    I am talking about Buddy Franklin heading to GWS.
    The rumour is that Buddy wants to delay the announcement but Fat Andy wants to make it public Saturday week on the eve of the NRL Grand Final.

  30. Gab

    Dot wants an argument? I thought he was doing an advertorial. You on commission, Dot?

  31. .

    Argument? I want sagely advice from those in the know!

  32. C.L.

    Dot, what’s the cost of pipe tobacco like nowadays?

    In other pipe news, I recently discovered an antique “Hedgehog” brand pipe reamer amongst some hand-me-down familial junk.

    Took me a while to figure out what it was.

    As for ashtrays, these used to be an art form. I remember friends of my parents etc had some beauties on tables and sideboards – Venetian, etc.

    Try finding one now.

  33. Leigh Lowe

    Title for the Slapper’s book …. “The Night of the Wronged Wives”

  34. .

    Gab
    #1013990, posted on September 25, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    Dot wants an argument? I thought he was doing an advertorial. You on commission, Dot?

    I wish. The ads here weren’t great, talk about SSM lead to some rather “Kensingtonian Bathhouse” orientated advertisements. “Smart” search, or some other crap, that was called.

    On the upside I bought some Hellyers Road scotch and Fox Creek Reserve Shiraz. Bloody bewdiful!

  35. twostix

    People are wondering where the PM is and what he thinks. The whole non-media thing is a big puzzle. The less he appears, the more wrong inferences are made about policies.

    Candy the top read stories on the various news sites are about Mel B, “Cats” getting “wacky” and Bill Shorten’s vicious mouth.

    Right now nobody wants to hear from the government for at least a while. Abbott said this was how he was going to govern in response to people asking him to get politics out of our face after the relentless front page madness that was Labor.

  36. Driftforge

    Shooting fellow right of centre politicians is the right-wing disease.

    Eh? Neither of those mention would rationally be considered right of centre.

  37. Token

    And because Ted Cruz is so brilliant and gutsy, it follows that GOP establishmentarians are reportedly trying to drestroy him.

    It was interesting that Rand Paul helped Cruz. Both are creative and ferocious competitors.

  38. tbh

    Title for the Slapper’s book …. “The Night of the Wronged Wives”

    Leigh you win the Internetz for today. That’s gold.

  39. .

    Dot, what’s the cost of pipe tobacco like nowadays?

    About $40 for a pack (50g). All you can get seems to be Borkum Riff.

    Don’t mind it but I’ve read some American forums – and they hate it with a passion.

    In other pipe news, I recently discovered an antique “Hedgehog” brand pipe reamer amongst some hand-me-down familial junk.

    Thank God for eBay.

    As for ashtrays, these used to be an art form. I remember friends of my parents etc had some beauties on tables and sideboards – Venetian, etc.

    Try finding one now.

    They are disgusting now. Your best bet is an antique.

    http://howbazaarantiques.com.au/media/183030/130_IMG_2363.jpg

    A blast from the past! A great old Australian firm.

  40. C.L.

    Here we go again …

    National Party hayseeds want to block Pyne on mandatory student ‘fees.’

    A scroll down at that ABC Online story is the following sub-header:

    Fees ‘incredibly important’, says union boss

  41. .

    Here’s the thing.

    How does Phelps in NSW, or Cruz and Rand Paul, become the establishment?

    Senator Paul is actually quite popular. The tea party got rid of Lugar etc. There are still “conservatives” who are basically as left as progressives except they like to act like conservative caricutures. Why are they still around?

  42. Septimus

    Enough with the up-tempo music … it’s been a long day dealing with too many numbers, and tomorrow promises to be a busy day on the road … time to hit the hay and listen to something serene that will induce a decent night’s sleep for a change.

  43. C.L.

    Borkum Riff

    God, that’s been around since the Blacks were bad.*

    * Conrad Black’s family.

  44. C.L.

    ABC Classical has some nice stuff on at the mo, Sept.

  45. JC

    I am actually still in LA on a day’s stopover. The plane to NY is in five hours.

    You idiot, why didn’t catch the Quaintarse flight to NY so you spend less time in that shithole of LA?

    You’re such a disappointment to us in so many ways Monster.

  46. Mike of Marion

    It’s about time that useless leftwing ABC got off its arse and fixed up its website with many of the ‘contibutors’ needing revised titles.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/contributors

    Mike

  47. C.L.

    Bill Shorten: Aborigines can’t make it, aren’t smart enough … so:

    Indigenous ALP candidate quotas flagged.

    But Holy Billy – aka Little Billy, the Midget, Pie Man and O’l Peanut Head – wants to go much further:

    There could be quota for indigenous candidates in the Labor Party if leadership contender Bill Shorten becomes opposition leader.

    Mr Shorten believes the ALP should think “freely and openly” as it considers new ideas to revitalise the party after its federal election loss.

    The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates but no such target for Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

    Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday they could consider quotas for sections of the community underrepresented in parliament.

    Quotas for lesbians, albinos, you name it.

  48. JC

    Went to bed at 7pm local time after not sleeping much on the 14 hour plane flight and pretty much doing an all nighter on jet lag, the time zones in my head are all screwed up.

    You are such fat moron. You don’t go to be at 7.00 PM if you’ve flown 15 hours or so. You go to bed as late as you can to get back into rhythm. Take sleeping pills with you next time and od on the plane.

    Hey Monster, I don’t want to scare you, but I went for a week and half once with jet lag waking up at 3 in the morn when I got back to NY and feeling like I wanted to sleep at 2 in the afternoon at work.

    You’re basically fucked, possibly the entire trip.

  49. Motelier

    Gab

    Is it me or are we all a bit anxious lately?

    We have a new Government.

    The Treasurer and Finance Minister are probably up to their armpits in tax invoices and tax receipts at the moment trying to sort out the nations finances. I bet all other Ministers in the new Government have been told to get their head around the legislative changes need to wind back the gross number of odious pieces of legislation acted in the last 6 years.

    Our focus should firstly be on the election of the opposition leader The policies that they put up for election should be questioned in public.

    Next.

    Statements from members of the Opposition (and I include the MSM in this category) should be publicly outed as mistruths..

    Finally we should be willing to hold the new Government to account if they make a legislative mistake.

  50. Gab

    The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates but no such target for Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

    So Labor doesn’t want to have Aboriginal people in Parliament and thus must be forced into it? That’s why they have quotas? Absurd. The Party still does not understand the concept of merit and talent. They have learned nothing from the thrashing they got at the election.

  51. Armadillo

    It’s about time that useless leftwing ABC got off its arse and fixed up its website

    And it’s TV channels. The thing that really gets to me is how with that amount of taxpayer money they can’t even get a live interview right. Cuts in, cuts out. Sound lost. Sound not in sinc. Vision lost. You very rarely see that on the commercial channels. Besides, the ABC24 presenters must be the worst that money can buy. Are any of these people on contract or are they just there for life?

  52. Gab

    Is it me or are we all a bit anxious lately?

    It must be you as I am very relaxed and happy now that Admiral Abbott is in command.

  53. Token

    Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday they could consider quotas for sections of the community underrepresented in parliament.

    Sounds great, who runs the committee to decide what is an under-represented community? Strange how we all have heard how Bill Ludwig is in trouble with racing QLD and may need a job.

  54. Armadillo

    There could be quota for indigenous candidates in the Labor Party if leadership contender Bill Shorten becomes opposition leader.

    Wonder what Mundine will have to say about that?

  55. Rebel with cause

    Sensible right of centre types a are underrepresented in the ALP too, but I wouldn’t hold your breath for a quota on that

  56. Gab

    The thing that really gets to me is how with that amount of taxpayer money they can’t even get a live interview right. Cuts in, cuts out. Sound lost. Sound not in sinc. Vision lost.

    Yes I also noticed their technical difficulties usually occurred when a conservative politician was holding a press conference, in the run up to the election.

  57. Armadillo

    You’re basically fucked, possibly the entire trip.

    It’s his honeymoon JC. Isn’t that the whole point?

  58. JC

    You know what, I kinda really like that sort of governing. The dudes is out of our face unlike the lying slapper and the earwax eater who were walking wrecks if they didn’t appear of TV each evening.

    We hired Abbott to do a job and when the dude has something to say, he’ll get out of his office and do so. If the ministers have something to say, well the same.

    It’s actually a breath of fresh air and I’m kinda guessing the average person will feel like that too.

    And he/they are all really busy getting up to speed on what the hell Liars left them, not grandstanding to get picked up in the evening news visiting a school or molesting sick patients in hospitals.

  59. Gab

    Isn’t that the whole point?

    What are you, ten? That’s not even humorous, just plain crude.

  60. .

    JC
    #1014015, posted on September 25, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    You’re basically fucked, possibly the entire trip.

    Jeez JC. You have to let people make their own mistakes or they never learn. I’m interested why you pointed out it was a mistake though…

  61. Armadillo

    usually occurred when a conservative politician was holding a press conference

    Yep. Constantly. It got to the stage where it was looking as though it was on purpose.

  62. JC

    The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates but no such target for Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

    Next step is sticking in quotas for the aboriginal clans, or in Andrew Leigh’s parlance…. Original owners clans.

  63. Gab

    It got to the stage where it was looking as though it was on purpose.

    To the point wherein I spoke with Campaign HQ about it and they had noticed and where keeping track. Didn’t say what they were going to do with the data though.

  64. kae

    Original owners First Nations.

  65. H B Bear

    Quotas for lesbians, albinos, you name it.

    Dwarves – incinerated and uncooked.

  66. You are such fat moron. You don’t go to be at 7.00 PM

    JC, I draw your attention to the fact that Monty is on his (cough) honeymoon.

  67. C.L.

    It still shocks me to know that all of those women in the ALP were chosen because of their genitals.

    Almost every woman Jill of them is a moron.

  68. Rebel with cause

    Me and the missus were sick to death of pollies all over the TV. Seems like we just went through at least 4 or 5 years where 2/3rds of any news bulletin was political news. Too much for us and we weren’t alone feeling like that. Be good to see what sort of stories reporters might put up now they have to venture out beyond parliament house for a story.

  69. Indigenous ALP candidate quotas flagged.

    Lead from the front Pieman, how many indigenous members will there be on the ALP central council?

  70. JC

    Jeez JC. You have to let people make their own mistakes or they never learn. I’m interested why you pointed out it was a mistake though…

    I’m betting he did everything wrong, Dot. He obviously ate too much on the flight, when you should really just eat moderately. No doubt he sucked in all the free booze which would keep him awake through the hangover and he went to sleep when he tired instead of holding out until you fall into the new time zone.

    He’s such and idiot, I get upset just talking about him. I really want to organize 6 rounds of UFC when he gets back.

  71. It still shocks me to know that all of those women in the ALP were chosen because of their genitals.

    Was selection done on a “trust” basis, or did those genital candidates have to show “proof” to the party room?

  72. JC

    JC, I draw your attention to the fact that Monty is on his (cough) honeymoon.

    It just meant more food for him. That’s all.

  73. C.L.

    I mean, look at Kate Ellis.

    What a looker, hey – yeah, I know.

    But honest question: could this former “minister” manage a McDonalds profitably?

    We all know the answer is no.

  74. Title for the Slapper’s book …. “The Night of the Wronged Wives”

    Love it, Leigh. LOL

  75. JC

    It still shocks me to know that all of those women in the ALP were chosen because of their genitals.

    Almost every woman Jill of them is a moron.

    And seriously nasty pieces of work too. They weren’t born in the normal regular way, they all flew straight out of hell on broomsticks. Satan didn’t want them and handed the lot over to the Liars Party. he had a gut full.

  76. JC

    But honest question: could this former “minister” manage a McDonalds profitably?

    We all know the answer is no.

    I’m shocked you had to ask, even rhetorically.

  77. JC

    Was selection done on a “trust” basis, or did those genital candidates have to show “proof” to the party room?

    Of course Liars would have had to prove gender. How could you tell by just looking at them.

  78. But honest question: could this former “minister” manage a McDonalds profitably?

    Answer (from ALP HQ): “Hmmm… don’t know about that, but hey, let’s put her in charge of upgrading the national internet infrastructure or something!”

  79. Armadillo

    That’s not even humorous, just plain crude

    Hmm….OK. I’m starting to sense a “selective” pattern here Gab. Some peoples comments worthy, others are off track and not in keeping with an economics/political blog. Some peoples “jokes” taken one way, others not so much. As I said earlier. Fine. I’ll leave you to it then.

  80. Token

    Osama bin Laden interview 2001:

    when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse. This is only one goal; those who want people to worship the lord of the people, without following that doctrine, will be following the doctrine of Muhammad, peace be upon him.

    Events on the ground in Syria after Barack Hussein Obama repeatly bungles diplomacy in the Middle East:

    On Tuesday, 13 major rebel groups in Syria, including al-Qaeda-linked groups but also a number of significant ostensibly “moderate” Islamist factions, signed a statement rejecting the authority of the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), the rebel umbrella group with which the U.S. and Gulf allies have been cooperating, and declaring their desire to establish a separate authority exclusively based on sharia law.

    These groups don’t represent all of the important rebel fighting groups in Syria, but they are almost definitely a majority of them and now represent the single most powerful rebel alliance in Syria.

  81. Motelier

    Well Good night all. Play well and play safe.

    I have another day sanding and painting in the hot sun. So I will be relying on my fellow cats to keep me up to date. I do love links. Saves me the time of hunting them out myself. Thanks for a good day.

  82. nic

    Title for the Slapper’s book

    Redheads and broomsticks
    Ruddhead Revisited

  83. Gab

    Quit your moaning, Armadillo. imho it was crude and I called it as such. A lot goes on here but rarely is it crude and others have been called out for it. Crudeness is just not humorous. IT is never crude, as an example.

  84. Of course Liars would have had to prove gender. How could you tell by just looking at them.

    Hmm.. well… yes… one may be presented with some difficulty when it comes to Penny Wong, The Bogan Queen, and Craig Thompson, but some of the others are indisputably female, like…er…. Plebsex, & some others.

  85. Most political junkies are gong to get serious withdrawal symptoms and a staged handbag fight between Albanese and Shorten just ain’t going to cut the mustard.

    Don’t worry. Sooner or later, one of them is actually going to (have to) be elevated to the exalted (?) position – then we will hear the grindstones sharpening for the knives once more and all will be well again. Hopefully it will last us until the biographies come out.

    In the meantime, we will have to survive on occasional screams from the trough-snufflers as their supply is cut off, and on the sight of the David Suzukis of this world frantically beclowning themselves in a last-ditch effort to make people who rightly despise them fall in line behind their cults and give them government money.

  86. Token

    Something lighter. Did that baking show survive on Channel 9? It looks like its English parent is using interesting stunts to get the choomer audience share up:

    For his signature bake in the sweet dough episode, Middleton made a date and hemp tea loaf, which was mixed with hemp oil. Middleton regularly uses unusual ingredients in his recipes to cater for gluten and dairy intolerances. He told The Telegraph: “I try and be inclusive in what I bake, and I like trying different things. It seemed appropriate to bake with hemp.”

    …However, Bake Off judges Mary Berry and Paul Hollywood were less familiar with the plant, whose leaves are smoked as a recreational drug. Berry was confused by the green flour, asking if it was a grass, before presenter Sue Perkins explained its uses and origins – with a big smile.

  87. JC

    This is the guiding light of the Liar party harridans association.

    Plibersek was born in Sydney, the daughter of migrants from Slovenia, and was dux of Jannali Girls High School.[5][self-published source?] She was educated at the University of Technology, Sydney where she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts (Honours) majoring in Communications. She also holds a Master of Public Policy and Politics from Macquarie University.

    Before entering Parliament, she was Women’s Officer at the University of Technology, Sydney and worked for the Domestic Violence Unit at the NSW Government’s Office for the Status and Advancement of Women as well as the office of Senator Bruce Childs.[5]

    When you dig right down, they really are light headed.

    The chipmunk, Dredd-Scott Carr was sold as one of the Australia’s leading intellectuals. All the fucker has in a BA from the UNSW in the 60’s when all you had to show was proof of life to get in. They really aren’t that smart and it shows.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates but no such target for Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

    That is why Nova Peris was such a high value target.
    Double word score.
    Pity she isn’t gay …. is she?

  89. JC

    . IT is never crude, as an example.

    He’s a metrosexual moisturizer. Crude wouldn’t even enter his head.

  90. Bachelor of Arts (Honours) majoring in Communications……. Master of Public Policy and Politics from Macquarie University.

    Well there’s a couple of really handy degrees for you. Were any of my nieces to want to do either of those degrees they’d receive a spanking from Uncle.

  91. Token

    Seems that someone is very angry that Flim Flam and Suzuki are able to make royal arseclowns of themselves and he may be forgotten.

    Loik at moi, loik at moi cried LORD Stern:

    Important factors like the melting of frozen Arctic soil, which are expected to contribute significantly to global warming, have been left out of scientists’ calculations because the size of their impact remains unclear.

    It means that models which will be used to inform the latest international assessment of climate science, to be revealed on Friday, “substantially underestimate” the scale of the problem, Lord Stern of Brentford claimed.

    Many economic models also “grossly underestimate the risks” because they assume that growth will continue unabated in the face of climate change and that the costs will be small, he said.

    The new IPCC report will nonetheless make it clear that the threat of climate change is “immense” and it would be “absurd” for anyone to claim that the risks are small, he said at a press conference in London yesterday.

    Oh yes, I thought this was an issue of science model, not economic models.

  92. Motelier

    JC

    Before entering Parliament, she was Women’s Officer at the University of Technology, Sydney and worked for the Domestic Violence Unit at the NSW Government’s Office for the Status and Advancement of Women as well as the office of Senator Bruce Childs.[5]

    More proof that ALP participants have never held a real job that creates value.

  93. That is why Nova Peris was such a high value target.
    Double word score.
    Pity she isn’t gay …. is she?

    She’s had enough husbands to sorta muddy the waters on that one. She seems to like ’em younger (a lot younger) and none too bright.
    Her conduct in public is rather…er… an.. unhappy history.

    But… she’s black (sorta)

  94. Leigh Lowe

    Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday they could consider quotas for sections of the community underrepresented in parliament.

    What?
    You mean people who, at least once in their lives, held down a real fucking job?

  95. More proof that ALP participants have never held a real job that creates value.

    To get the cabinet to a collective total that exceeds than 10 minutes total time in private enterprise, the ALP has to categorise “being a union lawyer” as private sector.

  96. JC

    David Friedman takes a jab at, porn writer Doc Pach and KO’s him.

    Pachauri Confuses Levels With Rates of Change

    <blockquote> “I don’t think there is a slowdown (in the rate of temperature increase). I would like to draw your attention to the World Meteorological Organization which clearly stated on the basis of observations that the first decade of this century has been the warmest in recorded history.”

    (

    Quote from Rajendra Pachauri, Chairman of the IPCC, in a BBC story)

    Judging by this quote, the chairman of the IPCC is either innumerate or being deliberately dishonest. The fact that the first decade was the warmest in recorded history, if true, is not evidence that the rate of temperature increase has not slowed down, only that it is above zero.

    I’ve never read anything by Friedman that is this animated. He just ripped him an new one.

  97. Leigh Lowe #1014072, posted on September 25, 2013 at 10:26 pm
    Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday they could consider quotas for sections of the community underrepresented in parliament.
    What?
    You mean people who, at least once in their lives, held down a real fucking job?

    That per capita representation of the 7 million people working in small businesses is going to have one helluva an impact on the ALP party room.

    Has Pieman really thought that one through?

  98. JC

    Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday they could consider quotas for sections of the community underrepresented in parliament.

    What?
    You mean people who, at least once in their lives, held down a real fucking job?

    They actually ought to have a quota for someone coming out of private enterprise. I’m not sure they could fill it though.

  99. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From candy at 9:21 pm:

    “People are wondering where the PM is and what he thinks. The whole non-media thing is a big puzzle. The less he appears, the more wrong inferences are made about policies.”

    Utter bullship!

    The Minister for reffos spoke a couple of days ago about his work. The Minister for unnecessary internet business spoke yesterday about his work. The Minister for overseas stuff spoke about her work today. No inference necessary there, eh?

    The less he appears the more you invent that “people” (you) are wondering. About what? Whether his shoes look nice?

    “People are wondering … what he thinks” – he told you in detail about that throughout July and August, remember? probably not. As to “People are …”, replacing that with “I am …” would be way more honest of you.

    This is just vacuous tripe.

  100. Rebel with cause

    Ruddhead Revisited

    Lol. In similar vein, I suggest “Gillard: A Farce to be Reckoned With”

    I’ve already got Shorten’s memoirs title: Pies and Prejudice

  101. Armadillo

    Quit your moaning, Armadillo

    Alright alright. I’ll choose my words more carefully in future. I shall endeavour to be more “subtle”. Don’t mind you “calling it out” however, at least an attempt to be more “even handed” would be appreciated. I do believe I have read a hell of a lot worse (even by my low standards) than a jibe about honeymoons here.

  102. Token

    Can anyone spot a link between these stories?

    Some 27% of the thousand 18 to 24-year-olds questioned said they did not trust them, while fewer than three in 10 (29%) thought Muslims were doing enough to tackle extremism in their communities.

    A similar proportion of the young people polled (28%) said the country would be better off with fewer Muslims and almost half (44%) felt Muslims did not share the same values as everyone else.

    Right, why would the feel that way? Any ideas?

    Meanwhile, speculation is mounting that Samantha Lewthwaite, a 29-year-old British terror suspect, was involved in the attack, after Amina Mohamed, Kenya’s foreign minister, said a British woman who had been allegedly involved in terrorism “many times before” was one of the militants who laid siege to the shopping centre. A number of Americans, around two or three, are also said to be involved. Al-Shabaab have denied that any women were involved. The forensic teams are working to establish the identities of the terrorists.

    Hmmm, must be racism or just because Shut Up!

  103. Motelier

    More proof that ALP participants have never held a real job that creates value.

    To get the cabinet to a collective total that exceeds than 10 minutes total time in private enterprise, the ALP has to categorise “being a union lawyer” as private sector.

    Well “being a union lawyer” could count as a being in the private sector because I am sure that they have called the business operators on behalf of the “members”.

    You can add you own interpretation to this

  104. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “nic at 9:31 pm

    ” How many Cats have been blessed by the Pope?

    Moi, from JPII'”

    Now THAT is special in my book.

  105. US Army War College panel discusses Syria… here

  106. Token

    Benedict has now proven that Pope Emeritus will be seen and heard:

    He’s back! Benedict XVI speaks out on sex abuse – and calls Richard Dawkins ‘science fiction’

  107. Well “being a union lawyer” could count as a being in the private sector because I am sure that they have called the business operators on behalf of the “members”.
    You can add you own interpretation to this

    Very, very, subtle Motelier. First class!

  108. JC

    Ted Cruz appears to have taken a break and Rand Paul has taken over. This is hilarious. The Kenyan gets absolutely no respect.

  109. C.L.

    Albanese and Shorten have their fingers on the pulse of a nation …

    Labor Leader Hopefuls Demand Better Science, Space Exploration For Australia.

    Shorten said that Australia has a key place in the world, searching the galaxy for habitable planets …

  110. Token

    Ted Cruz appears to have taken a break and Rand Paul has taken over. This is hilarious. The Kenyan gets absolutely no respect.

    I saw Marco Rubio and another senator from Kansas, in addition to Cruz. Tell the friggin conservatives in this country to sit down, shut up, listen and learn how to communicate. Paul is also first rate.

    Cruz was great a while back laying into Hollywood about their love affair with Cuban and their rancid health system.

  111. C.L.

    Benedict is right to ridicule the leaps (in this case, literally) of evolutionary speculations.

    Almost 90 percent of all this we don’t understand AT ALL.

  112. JC

    Shorten said that Australia has a key place in the world, searching the galaxy for habitable planets …

    I don’t blame them, They trying to find a spot to send the Emily’s Listers. Somewhere “distant”.

  113. Leigh Lowe

    ” How many Cats have been blessed by the Pope?

    Moi, from JPII’”

    Now THAT is special in my book.

    And me.
    By Pope Valentine in 827 AD.
    He told me to keep it under my hat in later lives, but.
    Warned me that the the Buddhists thought they had a mortgage on reincarnation and would be (as he put it) “as shitty as all get out if they knew we were all at it”

  114. JC

    Cruz was great a while back laying into Hollywood about their love affair with Cuban and their rancid health system.

    The dude just doesn’t twitch even if a cruise missile was headed his way. In some ways I reckon the Cubans are the best Americans. They’re basically the oldest European Americans too.

  115. nic

    I’ve already got Shorten’s memoirs title: Pies and Prejudice

    Now that’s good.

  116. JC

    Stop trolling Lucille.

    Where have you been anyway. Last time you showed up here you doing your usuall attention seeking routine, ended up bawling and going away.

    Now you finally show up as though nothing’s happened.

  117. Lucie

    Since when is supporting someone ‘trolling’? You are just as bad.

    All in the eye of the beholder.

  118. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From C.L. at 9:33 pm:

    “As for ashtrays, these used to be an art form. I remember friends of my parents etc had some beauties on tables and sideboards – Venetian, etc.

    Try finding one now.”

    There was a special ashtray left behind by the vendor in a place I had in Sydney, untouched since it was built in 1927, lead lights, coke fireplaces – a truly beautiful home.

    It is a miniature bellboy in dapper early C20 servant garb, standing straight with his hand out holding an ashtray, painted timber. He’s out there, all attentive, holding his place in the vestibule and we call him many things because he has a particular defining characteristic – Barrrrk, O’Bam Bam, Magic, Preshizzle, lots of other stuff – and lately I’ve taken to asking how he’s enjoying his close personal relationship with Vlad the Barbarian. Sometimes I make him watch Fox News with me.

    This little member of the household staff offers a certain therapeutic value.

  119. JC

    Armadillo is right.

    You dishonest swine, Lucille. the very last thing you did here, before your sojourn was trying to get stuck into me, lying about what I’d said and morphing into the resident breast nazi. Now look at you, sticking up for crudity.

  120. Lucie

    Several ‘libertarians’ directed me to scram, depart, ‘eff off’ etc, because I ‘didn’t fit in’ here, in Liberty Land. And you wonder where I’ve been??? hellooooooo?

  121. JC

    Several ‘libertarians’ directed me to scram, depart, ‘eff off’ etc, because I ‘didn’t fit in’ here, in Liberty Land. And you wonder where I’ve been??? hellooooooo?

    No, not at all. I’m wondering why you came back.

  122. Lucie

    I’m agreeing with the statement that what Armadillo said is nowhere near a s bad as what some others here have said. Selective outrage.

  123. Lucie

    The truth is always worth speaking up for.

  124. JC

    Oh, so you’re selectively prissy then? Figures.

  125. Lucie

    Nup. As I said, what he said was nowhere near as bad as some others … in the ‘protected species’ crowd

  126. Gab

    nowhere near a s bad as what some others here have said. Selective outrage.

    Really? Give me some examples.

  127. Lucie

    All through the threads, Gab. You have your favourites. It’s true, in my observation.

  128. Gab

    hehehe I made a comment and she calls it “selective outrage”. What a drama queen.

  129. Gab

    All through the threads,

    Unlike you, I don’t have the luxury of reading all th threads and everything that is said on each thread, so enlighten me. Give some examples, name the worst offenders of crudeness.

  130. Token

    Aliice clocks out, Lucie clocks in.

    Good luck to the baby sitting crew.

  131. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Jake White is resigning as coach of the Brumbies – the worst news for Australian rugby, the worst news. He is the only senior man in the game unaligned with any of the mutually destructive factions and the only one with any record in taking the game forward, and he has been here just two years.

    The game is losing its only bright light.

  132. JC

    Aliice clocks out, Lucie clocks in.

    We ought to have those two in a mud wrestle to see which one is the most annoying. It’s the only way to settle it I think.

  133. Labor Leader Hopefuls Demand Better Science, Space Exploration For Australia.

    As if these fuckheads did a single thing to reboot Woomera while they were in power. Imagine what they could have done there with $300bn. Now they want the Coalition to do it because they couldn’t be arsed. Fuck them. Put them in the nose-cone of the first manned rocket to Mercury. One-way ticket only.

  134. kae

    Muck, they used to hold calling cards!

  135. Gab

    Woomera is a fascinating place to visit. It’s no Cape Canaveral but it does have rockets 🙂

  136. Motelier

    Alice/Lucie, one and the same?

  137. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    “Shorten said that Australia has a key place in the world, searching the galaxy for habitable planets …”

    and yet I hear people want to see Tony Abbott. They’ve got to be joking!

    Comrade Son in Law is performing as if Paul Hogan has returned to amuse us (while he unwittingly acts as Whelan the Wrecker crushing the remaining rubble of the Labor Party). More Bill I say!

  138. candy

    What is it with men wanting to watch women wrestle each other in mud.

  139. Motelier

    Candy,

    Nope, I can not answer that. I am ma
    e and will have to excuse myself from the conservation.

  140. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From kae at 11:04 pm

    ‘Muck, they used to hold calling cards!”

    How good are you kae! That was exactly what his little tray was designed for and I modified it.

    and at 11:05 pm

    “OOps
    Like this one?”

    You are a gem – that is his brother!

  141. Lucie

    It’s always annoying to be disagreed with, I guess, if you can’t handle different opinions. Clubby groups are like that, true.

  142. Rousie

    Gillard: A farce to be reckoned with

    Don’t forget FlimFlam’s latest single:

    “Hello my Gaia, this is Timmy singing…”

  143. C.L.

    Mick, I love those old kitsch things – actually, calling them kitsch is probably inaccurate.

    They have a certain character amd charm one doesn’t see in today’s China-made bric-a-brac.

    Last year I saw a lovely Gollywog in a window and made up my mind to buy it for a little niece the next day. Alas, somebody beat me to it.

  144. Aussieute

    WTH!!!

    The Journal of Economic Literature … hmmmm
    Economic fiction?

    Lord Stern is calling for new computer models because “many scientists are telling us that our models are grossly underestimating the risks”.

    So he reckons the models were out of alignment and should be more dramatic?

  145. Rousie

    “Shorten said that Australia has a key place in the world, searching the galaxy for habitable planets …”

    He’s just differentiating from the Greens. Bob’s policy was that they’d find us.

  146. Motelier

    Nah. It is fatigue,

    play hard and play safe.

    I am off to sleep. I hope to catch up tomorrow.

  147. JC

    What is it with men wanting to watch women wrestle each other in mud.

    Dunno, it’s great to watch and as funny as. Stand away from the ring though or don’t wear expensive attire for good reasons.

    I went to one in AC and had a blast.

  148. kae

    I have a golliwog. He has a name, but I can’t remember it.

    Mick, I googled. They’re called butlers. I’ve seen the ones in the white vests with cards, from the 1930s. Or 40s.

  149. C.L.

    Abbott’s idiotic health minister: ‘Hey, let’s increase tobacco taxes.’

  150. JC

    So let me get this right, Dutton thinks that raising taxes on smokes will cut consumption, but doing the same on booze won’t?

    That’s possibly one of the stupidest things I’ve heard in quite a while. Who the fuck does he think he’s kidding.

  151. Splatacrobat

    Gillard’s Com Car driver writes a tell all book, Driving Miss Ogyny.

  152. Splatacrobat

    Albanese’s book: Convictions of no consequence.

  153. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Token at 9:55 pm:

    “Sounds great, who runs the committee to decide what is an under-represented community? Strange how we all have heard how Bill Ludwig is in trouble with racing QLD and may need a job.”

    That Inquiry has been more than ten years coming Token, and they’ll all be thrown out on their ear when it ends. The graft has been that bad and that big and that blatant they should be made surrender their homes.

    That is, if the Commission isn’t got at. The Inquiry is already limited to events from 2007 and later, when everyone knows the con was running hot five and ten years before that.

  154. C.L.

    Well, put it this way: if you applied the tax rate on tobacco to, say, stubbies – bringing a carton of beer to approximately $250 – Dutton is saying that wouldn’t affect consumption.

    What a transparent load of bollocks.

    What he’s really saying is this: ‘smokers are a soft target but drinkers aren’t so I’m going to target smokers to raise some more money to waste.’

    All under the familiar ruse of ‘combatting tobacco consumption.’

    Arsehole.

  155. benson

    C.L.: Smokers are a Labor-voting demographic, tax them up the ass.

  156. nic

    Albo’s will be ‘a ride on the Thaitanic’

  157. JC

    C.L.: Smokers are a Labor-voting demographic, tax them up the ass.

    Why, so the libs can then spend the money on their constituency like the game Liars play? Leave that sort of strategy for Liars.

  158. candy

    He said increasing the price of Alcopops decreased their consumption but more spirits were consumed as an example.

    He seems determined to put more resources into mental health issues too. I think he’s on the right track and makes sense.
    Also he doesn’t communicate in that complex convuluted way Turnbull and Morrison do where you can’t get ahold of what they’re on about.

  159. benson

    Why, so the libs can then spend the money on their constituency like the game Liars play?

    No, purely as a punitive measure.

  160. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From kae at 11:18 pm:

    “Mick, I googled. They’re called butlers.”

    Yes, that’s it. I tried unsuccessfully to remember myself before posting. Well done again!

  161. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Lucie, I am glad you have come back in here to comment.
    I hope you saw people saying they missed you.
    Armadillo, I wasn’t offended by your comment, although it was a bit obvious.
    Won’t win the internet etc.
    Nevertheless, I think I have been quite crude tonight too, in jibing at Mick tonight re Rabz’s ‘phallocracy’ comment. I amused myself, but perhaps not others.

    As the Reverend Eli Jenkins’ little Welsh prayer says: ‘we are not wholly bad or good’.
    We are flawed. I can live with that. Most other Cats can too.

    Long ago my cat once sought my attention by depositing a dead rat on my bed for me in the early hours. The equivalent here is to provide an interesting link. It breaks the monotony, diverts attention, restores energies and indicates a desire to contribute.

    I loved that cat. I miss her still.

  162. C.L.

    I’m sure I’ve committed sins of crudeness many times as well.

    Apologies, if so.

  163. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Abbott’s idiotic health minister: ‘Hey, let’s increase tobacco taxes.’

    If Kevin Rudd had not wanted to do that he may well be sitting as PM instead of Abbott now.
    So many people I knew out West of Sydney were ‘annoyed’ about that (completely p’d off actually, but I am not being crude tonight any more).
    Abbott should knock this stupid proposal on the head immediately.

  164. Lucie

    That is very funny, Lizzie. And sweet.

  165. Lucie

    The cat/rat story, I mean.

  166. JC

    The Cat is never a crude site particularly in sexual terms.

    It’s a rude, outlandish site with me as perhaps the only notable exception, but not crude. I’m happy to say that I don’t think there’s been on single thing the left has got away with for the past 6 six years with the Cats forensic team examining evidence.

  167. Gab

    FFS, I expressed my opinion. I didn’t want to make a federal case or a long drawn out saga over it, like the Labor leadership. I thought the issue had been put to bed. I was wrong again. oops, I’m not perfect either.

  168. JC

    Gab

    Don’t worry about it. It’s just Lucille’s way of trying to cause discord. It’s the old strategy of trying to divide and conquer. Don’t fall for that stuff from the breast Nazi. She’s easy to peg.

  169. Leo G

    Abbott’s idiotic health minister: ‘Hey, let’s increase tobacco taxes.’

    How about taxing passive smoking?

  170. C.L.

    Report: Conroy, Wong corruptly instructed NBN to get cracking in federal electorates.

  171. JohnA

    Most political junkies are gong to get serious withdrawal symptoms

    Err, brc do you mean we will actually have to get on with REAL LIFE?

    🙂

  172. Tiny Dancer

    Is mOron really on a doughnut tour of the USA? With a lady? And a papal blessing or is that just more talk?

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    How about taxing passive smoking?

    Hey, another air tax. They work well.

  174. JC

    Is mOron really on a doughnut tour of the USA? With a lady? And a papal blessing or is that just more talk?

    All true, wearing a green and gold tracksuit with “Australia” emblazoned front and back, along with black work shoes until he gets to the nike shop.

    He’s on a honeymoon doughnut tour of the US.

  175. dover_beach

    There was nothing crude about that Nigella video, CL.

  176. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Err, brc do you mean we will actually have to get on with REAL LIFE?

    Yes. Early tomorrow morning.
    Goodnight all.

  177. Oh come on

    hahahahahahahaha JC *really* hates m0nts

  178. Gab

    Janet Albrechtsen; alpha female writes about another alpha female who needed no female quota to get the job.

    HERE’S a curious omission from the somewhat frenzied debate about gender this past week.

    A remarkable woman sits at the apex of power in Canberra. Peta Credlin is Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s chief of staff. Plenty of vocal women in the media and beyond have spent the week crying out for more political power for women.

    Yet barely a word has been said about the importance of having a woman at the centre of policy and political decisions in this country. And where is the salute to Credlin, as chief executive of Abbott’s office, for proving women can hold such powerful roles? Instead, Credlin often receives criticism from many women and silence from most. That’s a shame.

    If we are truly interested in women achieving, shouldn’t we readily commend those with scores on the board? Isn’t it relevant in this interminable debate about women that a woman has played a critical role in the rise and rise of the man underestimated and written off as unelectable by his own side and by Labor?

    After all, Credlin turned an office ill-prepared for leadership into a highly effective political machine, personally driving policy and political strategy.

    And she shaped Abbott into a highly disciplined leader, arguably this country’s most successful Opposition Leader for effectively toppling three prime ministers. Could it be that the predictable critics of Abbott’s new cabinet are not interested in details that disrupt their aim to score political points? That’s a shame, too.

    From the moment she took the job in Abbott’s office, Credlin has been the target of snide attacks. There were offensive remarks that she scored the job because her husband, Brian Loughnane, is federal director of the Liberal Party. Then offensive rumours about her relationship with Abbott. Comedians mocked her. Labor lapped it up.

    Inside the Liberal Party, Credlin is often criticised for being too tough. Yet, it’s a tough job. Invariably, the criticisms come from those who don’t know her, are intimidated by her, and worse, are transparently jealous of her achievements. And most disappointingly, it’s women who are often the worst enemies of successful women.

    – See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/the-unheralded-heroine-at-coalitions-heart/story-e6frg7bo-1226726456282#sthash.8H22fYQV.dpuf

  179. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Gabrielle at 12:12 am:

    “Christine Milne loses six senior staff but says don’t panic people. As if.”

    Working with that miserable humorless old hag would be the worst job imaginable.

    One hopes that Comrade Sarah-Helter Skelter makes a run for the job she so covets, but only after we have squeezed the last drop of entertainment from Labor’s fake leaders contest.

    I don’t know what happened with the tub of lard getting up again – I thought she was tipped to be out on her ample arsks following Senate preference distribution.

  180. Gab

    Yes, I also believed SHY was going to get the environmentally-freindly gong.
    One of life’s major disappointments.

  181. JC

    Hahahahhahaha Six of her stuff left her?

    You know, you really have problems when the leader of the lunatic party has other lunatics leaving in droves because she’s so mentally deranged.

    That’s like being in a mental asylum and the other fruitcakes think you’re a serious loon.

    Can you just imagine what goes on in that garbage can behind the scenes.

  182. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    from Gabrielle at 12:24 am:

    “the criticisms come from those wymminses who don’t know her, are intimidated by her, and worse, are transparently jealous of her achievements. And most disappointingly, it’s women who are often invariably the worst enemies of successful women.”

    Janet Albrechtsen knows full well that it is illegal for men to even think of commenting on Peta Credlin.

    Who will be Labor’s attack dog dedicated to pursuing Credlin? Comrade Mrs Convicted Junkie or that Wong chap? Or Comrade Our Kindergarten Kate Ellis – I’d like to see that ‘cos she’d stuff it up completely and cry in public like a spoilt 14 year old.

  183. C.L.

    There was nothing crude about that Nigella video, CL.

    Not a thing.

  184. C.L.

    Don’t bother, Janet.

    It’s all a game – as the Palin phenomenon made perfectly clear.

    The left isn’t interested in women; it is exclusively interested in left-wing women.

    Non left-wing women are – for all intents and purposes – men to them.

    Think I’m exaggerating?

    The left also forgives the trespasses of left-wing men – like Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

    Clinton ordered an intern to lick his bottom (literally, cf. Starr Report) and Ted Kennedy left a staffer to drown in an Oldsmobile. Feminists adore them.

  185. Oh come on

    Oh dear lord, watching Lateline and listening to Christine Milne drone on and on and on. I’d rather listen to Pauline Hanson speak. Seriously.

  186. Oh come on

    It’s quite incredible. She starts talking and her utterances lose all meaning, it’s just this monotone whining.

  187. JC

    Did she have the focrwed smile lingering on her face at the wrong times? And the eyes…the eyes of a nazi camp commadant.

  188. Oh come on

    Nah, she’s all sincere tonight. Still got those scary Coolabah Claret teeth though.

    I had to switch the TV off. The noise was fucking with my biorhythms.

  189. including chief of staff Ben Oquist, director of communications Georgie Klug and policy adviser Oliver Woldring, her climate change adviser, her economics adviser and campaign coordinator.

    That’s pretty much the solid core of a minor party’s staff, especially relevant when one of them is the Climate Change adviser to a Greens party.

    fundamental differences of opinion about strategy

    Possible translation: “We fucked up and lost the balance of power in the Senate; we did this because you didn’t listen to me; and now the idiots have gone and kept you on. You’ve made us irrelevant and got rewarded for it. I’m outta here.”

    This should be a very interesting space to watch. Sure, she was re-elected to her leadership unopposed and so was Bandt (deservedly so, if he increased his local stake), but I think that was a reflex action so as not to leave them leaderless the way the ALP currently is (the Greenfilth are doing that one bit right in any case). However, to continue hypothesising, they’re still getting their heads around what a Coalition victory is actually going to mean – especially with the new Senate still not quite finalised and their supreme Lower House influence made irrelevant – and when they’ve finished doing that, we may see rumbles for change.

    The advisers seem at least to have waited for the first torpedo (Bandt’s irrelevance in the Lower House) to hit before running for the lifeboats. The rest of the salvo is on its way.

    The following election (due 2016) constitutes yet another salvo, with a target-rich environment – the majority of what’s left of the Greens – up for reaping, and everybody knows that at least some of those torpedoes will hit. At that point, what we will arguably see is infighting for the highest place on the Senate ticket in every state, somewhat akin to a struggle for the last seat in the lifeboats. If there’s going to be a leadership challenge, I suspect that’s when we’ll start to see the leadership knives come out.

    If Abbott can set up (but not pull) a DD trigger before then, he might be able to start the panicked stampede early.

  190. C.L.

    Speaking of Bill Clinton – the man who serially demeaned and defiled a 21 year-old intern; the man who settled out of court with Paula Jones after being charged with exposing himself to her and demanding oral sex (along the way, being disbarred in Arkansas for lying under oath); the man credibly accused of raping Juanita Broaddrick; the man accused of assaulting Kathleen Willey – speaking of William Jefferson Clinton …

    His name came up today in Gillard’s first interview since being thrown out of The Lodge:

    Ms Gillard is in New York attending the Clinton Global Initiative – a prestigious annual meeting of global leaders including the likes of Bono, Barack Obama and IMF boss Christine Lagarde, to come up with ‘‘innovative solutions to the world’s most pressing challenges’’.

    The initiative is led by former US president Bill Clinton, together with his wife, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton, and daughter Chelsea. Mr Clinton also serves as Honorary Chancellor of Laureate International Universities.

    Julia Gillard says she’ll pursue education and women’s issues in life after politics.

  191. You are such a moron JC, you tell us about your failure to manage jet lag and then lecture is on proper technique.

    7pm in LA is 10pm in NY, so it makes sense to go to bed then given LA is merely a stopover.

    You look like a fool when you go off half cocked like that.

  192. Bons

    a lovely Gollywog
    Interesting that Gollys are no longer non-PC. Is there a court or a tribunal that issues PC indulgences?

  193. Good to see academics start to sweat about possible grant drought for anti-Israel BDS applicants.
    “I shouldn’t be singled out” they say.
    Nor should Israel be singled out by the deranged BDS movement, buddy.

  194. Cold-Hands

    Great line by Andrew Bolt: “Balance on the ABC is when for every two ex-Labor staffers you get one former Trot.”

  195. Bons

    In his first interview as Justice Minister, Michael Keenan told The Australian he had driven home the importance of having a “laser-like” focus on tackling people-smuggling during briefings with agency chiefs in the past week.
    Lazer like? The ACC – not without mass sackings Mr K.
    The ACC budget fell from $114.5m in 2007-08 to $93.3m in 2013-14. At least 144 jobs have been axed since 2007.
    $114m; and all we got was them nodding behind the adolescent Minister announcing that some sports people take pills. Sack em; bring in real cops and lawyers with true criminal prosecution backgrounds.

  196. Tinta

    heh. From Theo Spark…

    Hi Mark

    Wow love the Spitfire on the banner of this site, I just received my Spitfire News Magazine, I so love the look and sound of Reginald Mitchell’s wonderous mathematical marvel.

  197. Tinta

    Julia Gillard says she’ll pursue education and women’s issues in life after politics.

    Pursue education? is that for herself?, a good idea but I fear there is little to educe from that wizened soulless harridan. As for women’s issues, is she talking about pursuing children? Too late for her I would say and pursuing children may in fact be a scary prospect if not against the law – she’d better be careful.

  198. Bons

    grant drought for anti-Israel BDS applicants.
    The rule of law supplanting the rule of folklore?

  199. Tinta

    Gillard’s upcoming memoir: any suggestions for a title?
    Allow me to get the ball rolling …
    Apologia Pro Vita Sewer.*
    * Apologies, Eminence.

    I still like How I Jolly-rogered Australia or A Strumpet in the Lodge

  200. Helen Armstrong

    ‘Clean-eating’ celebrity diet fad hits raw nerve

    Oh Dear – envirowrongologist disguised as diet expert.

    “People who eat organic food should only do it because of their concern for the environment,” Professor Lee said.

    said Amanda Lee, head of the federal government’s dietary guidelines committee in Oz today re the fad for raw organic vegan diets. Yes, insane, hopefully just a passing righteous phase, but the environmental angle is remarkably ill informed.

    I think it was Matt Ridley in “The Rational Optimist’ who stated that if the whole world was organic, there would be no Amazon basin, becasue it would all be under crop. Modern farming methods including the use of fertilizers has allowed us to feed the world from less land AND return land to conservation. Organic would take land from conservation, so the premise above from Amanda Lee is false.

  201. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    In her six-minute interivew with the university network, Ms Gillard said that it had been a mixed bag being Australia’s first female prime minister.

    ”It’s an experience that’s mixed, I’d have to say. Endless focus on hair, and clothes and shoes and things that men don’t have to put up with,” she said.

    Of course they don’t. Da Hairy Ape is often somewhat in the public eye and he goes to work every day in an unironed shirt with food stains down the front, a tie with a dancing lady on it, worn out sneakers and unshaven with uncombed just-out-bed hair. Not.

    What Gillard fails to recognise is that there are dress standards for both men and women in business and public life. Just because she was a boiler-suited socialist feminazi and then pin-stripe suited leso-booted power dresser for much of her life does not mean that those standards of dress will still do in a Prime Ministerial role. She was told otherwise, and found it irksome.

    Silly woman. Still wittering on about da misogyny. Always will be now, I guess.
    She doesn’t seem to have any other cards to play on the international (or local) stage.

  202. Helen Armstrong

    Candy

    What is it with menwomen wanting to watch women wrestle each other in mud.design and appreciate male ‘clock’ calendars?

  203. Cold-Hands

    Putin is toying with Greenpeace but has taken piracy off the table. Still likely to be charged but it won’t be a fifteen year jail term.

  204. jupes

    Putin is toying with Greenpeace but has taken piracy off the table.

    Weak prick.

  205. Aliice

    Tom / Dot said

    Come on you degenerates. Throw me a frickin bone here (9.10 pm).

    Hahaha. Dot wants an argument. LOL.

    bugger I was too busy to play.

  206. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Both men and women can be criticised for their fashion choices. Toughen up, Gillard.
    Angela Merkel is admirable in that she takes it all in her stride (or strides?).
    She dresses comfortably in mumsy tones and styles and seems happy with them. Good on her.
    She has bigger things to worry about and doesn’t hold her position on a confected image, unlike Jools.

  207. brc

    I hate to tell Shorten, but nothing turns fossil fuels into co2 faster than a rocket.

    You’re either for co2 abatement, or you’re against it. Make up your mind.

  208. Token

    Putin is toying with Greenpeace but has taken piracy off the table. Still likely to be charged but it won’t be a fifteen year jail term.

    Greenpeace will get the message that they are dealing with a totalitarian organisation more powerful and ruthless than themself.

    They’ll get back to bullying the weak, and considering how weak the primate of the Church of England is I am sure they will be getting an easy win by depriving a community of its church or some such.

  209. Token

    I hate to tell Shorten, but nothing turns fossil fuels into co2 faster than a rocket.

    Shorten is from the party which wants to reduce our dependency on coal and reduce the load on the power grid while promoting electric cars.

    The intellectual power of the shadow caucus couldn’t provide enough kick to get the electric car out of its garage.

  210. Helen Armstrong

    Aliice, do you have red hair? I do like your lady imp.

  211. Tom

    Krazy Klive contemplates joining the commuter rat race:

    “I suppose I want to find a flat in Canberra – somewhere nice and comfortable to stay,” he told ABC Radio on Wednesday.

    “I can always fly down in the morning on my jet and fly back at night – like anyone else, I can go to and from work every day.”

    Don’t laugh. He could hold the balance of power in the Senate:

    The last Senate seat in Western Australia is a three-way race between the PUP, Labor and the Sports Party.

    If PUP or the Labor Party claims the seat, the Coalition would need support from Mr Palmer’s senators to get laws through Parliament.

    If the Sports Party were to succeed, the Coalition could cobble together enough votes without Mr Palmer’s support – but in doing so, it would need to secure the vote of ­Democratic Labor Party senator John Madigan.

    If Krazy Klive gets a critical third senator over the line, it’s a matter of how much he will charge the nation to bend over:

    “If we have to consider all this legislation, they need to make sure we’re fully informed and we understand it, or we could make the wrong decisions.”

    RTWT.

  212. WhaleHunt Fun

    Never mind, The Greens will legislate to ensure all garages will be built with an outward slope allowing a rolling clutch start for their combi vans. So at least the electric jokes will get onto the street away from the house on fire due to overheated wiring.

  213. JC

    Fatboy

    Stop the internet squabbling on your honeymoon, you idiot

  214. Tinta

    She doesn’t seem to have any other cards to play on the international (or local) stage.

    It’ll be a vagina monologue. I am so sick and tired of these pathetic highly-advantaged lefty women whining about glass ceilings and wanting advancement not on the basis of what’s between the ears but on the basis of gender. Meanwhile women in Africa continue to die in childbirth for lack of good obstetric care, but what dose Julia Gillard in government give money to? A year ago the Gillard government gave $320 million for a new 10-year initiative to help improve the political, economic and social opportunities of Pacific women. So there you have it.

  215. Tracey

    I like ‘Knitting the Kangaroo’ for The Slapper’s book title.

  216. Tiny Dancer

    Earl Sandor announces that he takes full responsibility for trafficking in peptides then declares himself to be a victim.

  217. Tom

    What do you get when an ABC howler monkey reviews a TV show for the howler monkeys at Pravda‘s lady pages?:

    And there is a shade of Walter White in all of us when we try and hide, excuse and eventually give up justifying the negative work we do. When we work for and consume the products of companies that contribute to anthropogenic climate change, sweatshops, obesity, diabetes, species extinction, conflict and hate, and pretend that these outcomes will never come back to harm our families or haunt us in the suburban Arcadias we’re so obsessed with building (and fleeing to).

    Bunyip reviews the review.

  218. Tinta

    I like ‘Knitting the Kangaroo’ for The Slapper’s book title.

    I like that Tracey

  219. Token

    I like ‘Knitting the Kangaroo’ for The Slapper’s book title.

    I think that “Political Props” will be a big seller with Reuban looking mounfully from his new home, a cage at the pound waiting for the needle with Tim in the cage next to the poor little scrapper.

  220. Rabz

    When we work for and consume the products of companies that contribute to anthropogenic climate change, sweatshops, obesity, diabetes, species extinction, conflict and hate

    Tom, I read that utter drivel the other day and thought, thank goodness I don’t pay for this rubbish any more.

    It’s easy to dismiss now that Fauxfacts is on its death bed.

    Anyway, off to read the Bunyip’s review of the aforementioned master work.

  221. Boy on a bike

    Gillard can channel Spike Milligan for a book title:
    “Abbott: My part in his victory”

  222. Rabz

    The Slapper’s book title.

    Has this beast from hell no shame?

    Just get out of the public’s consciousness and stay out, you vile piece of criminal garbage.

  223. Popular Front

    I found this over at Pickering’s blog, good for a laugh:

    A broadcaster speaking in Auckland, says, “I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Auckland. I think it should be the goal of every NZ’er to be tolerant regardless of their religious beliefs. Thus the mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.

    That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque. We could call one of the clubs, which would be gay, “The Turban Cowboy “, and the other a topless bar called “You Mecca Me Hot.”

    Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbecue pork restaurant, called “Iraq o’ Ribs.”
    Across the street there could be a lingerie store called “Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret “, with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods.

    Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, “Koranal Knowledge “, its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called “Morehammered.”

    All of this would encourage Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so their mosque issue would not be a problem for others.”

    Yes we should promote tolerance, and you can do your part by passing this on.

  224. boy on a bike

    or she could copy another great Milligan title:

    “Rudd: My part in his downfall”

  225. Token

    I found this over at Pickering’s blog, good for a laugh:

    No business would be that stupid as the lives of the owners and workers would be under real threat.

    Do you see Greenpeace sitting outside Somalian waters protesting over-fishing? As if, they only got for soft targets, as does the sin industries.

  226. boy on a bike

    The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates but no such target for Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

    They should set a quota for normal, balanced people with a bit of proven competence and life experience.

    I suggest they start at 5%, because it is going to take them decades to reach that target.

  227. Cold-Hands

    Aliice, do you have red hair? I do like your lady imp.

    No Helen, it’s a picture of her tattoo,

  228. .

    C.L. #1014136, posted on September 25, 2013 at 11:19 pm
    Abbott’s idiotic health minister: ‘Hey, let’s increase tobacco taxes.’

    Is this a joke?

    Why do the Liberal party, deserve to use the name “Liberal”?

    Why is a “Liberal” Government trying to ;

    1. Raise more revenue?
    2. Tax a group unfairly?
    3. Discourage or encourage a dmaned thing?

    A bale of tobacco leaving the farm gate has a cash price to the farmer of $850, after taxes it is sold to processors at $29,000 per bale.

    I pay enough friggin’ tax already.

    I’m outraged, I tells ya!

  229. Helen Armstrong

    Oh Cold Hands, you are awful!

  230. Token

    They should set a quota for normal, balanced people with a bit of proven competence and life experience.

    How can that be in the party which lives by the motto:

    Everyone has to be a victim, and if you haven’t just wait until we get back into government…

  231. boy on a bike

    Can anyone possibly explain why the leader of the Greens could possibly need that many staff?

  232. Helen Armstrong

    Can anyone possibly explain why the leader of the Greens could possibly need that many staff

    Part of the partnership with ALP payoff?

  233. C.L.

    Andrew Bolt often refers to the Reformation as a great event (for example, saying that Islam needs one) and today he suggests the Counter-Reformation was a bad event:

    Of course, early discipline is essential, as is coordination of messages. But I’d suggest Abbott be careful that he preside over a Renaissance, not a counter-Reformation.

    The Protestant Reformation unleashed a wave of mass murder, theft, dimwitted superstition and Al Qaeda-like bibliolatry (sola scriptura). The Counter-Reformation was a wonderful correction to this wacko extremism.

  234. Andrew

    NTEU blockading all entrances at Melbourne University this morning.

  235. Bons

    So its true – Short Willie is a space cadet.
    Ground Control to Major Dumb.
    Interesting that a few years as an advocate to a largely unskilled union body has has resulted in such insightful understanding of science and cosmology.

  236. C.L.

    Standards being dropped …

    Royal Australian Air Force holds flight camp in bid to boost female recruits.

    Wing Commander Kennealy says the RAAF expects members to meet certain standards, regardless of gender.

    “We are providing more opportunity, we are encouraging more women to give it a go but we’re certainly not dropping any standards to increase the numbers of women in air force.”

    If the girl closest to camera can do 20 chin-ups, I’ll walk to Marble Bar.

  237. Ezra Levant continues to expose the hypocrisy, mendacity and stupidity of the wicked, misanthropic misanthracist, David Suzuki here and here.

  238. C.L.

    Despite an anonymous complaint accusing Barlow of defrauding the department being sent to the CMC in 2010, a substantiated misuse claim, a criminal history and outstanding warrant in New Zealand, a work history which included irregular hours, questionable reasons for sick leave, concerns over his corporate credit card use and a failure to deliver on projects, Barlow was not only allowed to skate by, he was promoted.

    An extraordinary summary of the Queensland ‘prince’ who stole millions as a public servant.

    How? How did he get away with such an outlandish act?

    Why? Why didn’t anyone confront him earlier?

    See if you can guess.

  239. Armadillo

    Part of the partnership with ALP payoff?

    I suspect that would be exactly right Helen. Who knows what “deals” were done during the “negotiations”. The strangest thing is why on earth TLS even bothered “negotiating” at all. The Greens were never ever going to vote with the LNP. No doubt, it will be discussed at length in the history books. For someone who was supposedly the great negotiator, it would perhaps be the biggest single mistake in Australian political history. It almost destroyed the Labor party itself. Incredibly crazy stuff. In a long list of “stuff ups”, that alone would have to be close to the top of the list as far as political mistakes go.

  240. Driftforge

    NTEU blockading all entrances at Melbourne University this morning.

    Only grins down this way at the bye-bye SSAF announcement.

  241. calli

    If the girl closest to camera can do 20 chin-ups, I’ll walk to Marble Bar.

    Start walking, CL. Isn’t that what lowering the bar is all about? Much more amusing than my tawdry humour is the first comment on the article.

    Yes sad to say the young are never told that if you sign up for military service, you will very possibly die in a warzone or even on the home front.

    You couldn’t make these people up.

  242. .

    Hahahahaha!

    kwensee 9:04 AM on 26/09/2013
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    Yes sad to say the young are never told that if you sign up for military service, you will very possibly die in a warzone or even on the home front. If they really wanted to entice women, they should have a contractual guarantee in writing to show, that any sexual harassment, no matter how slight, will mean the woman is automatically promoted in rank, AND, her attacker is automatically dishonorably discharged from the service. You also need to be able to show the women that inside the airforce there are women officers they can turn to for unconditional support.

    Fucking loopy. Get touched up 20 times and become a Marshal of the RAAF.

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