Monday Forum: December 9, 2013

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  1. Gab

    Should’nt that be DENNAB?

  2. Armadillo

    DEMMNNABEBDLUOHSYTNOM

    Or perhaps that? That party with Shitfer is looking good for the first one.

  3. Beef

    DEMMABEBDLUOHSYTNOM

    Bless you!

  4. “Bammed”? LOL. Armadillo, my new nickname for you is Bam-Bam.

  5. Makka

    “Fire Brigade Employees’ Union NSW Secretary Jim Casey said Prime Minister Tony Abbott must better resource firefighters and act on climate change.

    He said Mr Abbott was prepared to “drape himself in the flag of firefighters” during the recent Blue Mountains bushfires but wasn’t prepared to act on the root cause of the blaze.

    Co-author Professor Will Steffen said that in the short term, governments must ensure fire services were adequately resourced to fight an increased number of fires.

    In the long term Australia needed to stop using fossil fuels and develop renewable energies to reduce carbon emissions, he said.

    Dr Christine Finlay, who has a PhD in bushfire research, says the “incredible surge of catastrophic fire activity” was due to policies that made it difficult to do preventative burns.”

    “You have to hire an environment impact assessment consultant … to make sure there’s no threatened or endangered species,” she said.

    AAP

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/climate-change-will-double-need-for-fire-fighters-by-2030-climate-council-says-20131209-2z18c.html#ixzz2n2zxdnAv

  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    ‘M0nty should be bammed’ made no sense at all. A bit like his political views.
    No sense in them either.

  7. johanna

    Toiling Mass – missed your post while I was composing. Good one! And in the same category is the ongoing war between St Barnabas’ church just below Broadway and the pub across the road.

  8. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Interesting gab, that it was published that far back. This is the first I have heard of it, hence my surprise.

    I was not in the country much in between ’93 and ’02.

  9. nic

    On graffiti, I used to love the piece on the wall of the tram viaduct near Melbourne Zoo “To all you St Als virgins, thanks for nothing”. St Als was St Aloysius, the catholic girls school.

  10. Armadillo

    Actually, I think I’ll just stick with my original comment. Although, either would be fine with me.

    Urban Dictionary:

    bammed:

    1. To be severely owned.
    2. Having your arse kicked badly.
    3. Slapped down like an insignificant piece of shit.

    1. I sucked so much in that game I got BAMMED.
    2. You’re such a victim dude – we bammed you!
    3. “You’re a poofwagon homobobo asschomper” “BAMMED!!”

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Armadillo, I think ‘bammed’ has just established a place for itself in the Cat lexicon. :)

  12. Beef

    “You have to hire an environment impact assessment consultant … to make sure there’s no threatened or endangered species,” she said.

    And who else better to have to hire than rentseeking envirotard, with funding, out searching for the rare gummi toad. Spoke of in dreamtime legends by local custodians, who happen to live in Surrey hills.

  13. Gab

    Unlike SFB, I wasn’t sneering at you, Mk50. Just pointing out that it’s not new, people have known about it for some time but of course as it involves a Labor person it was all hushed up later so no wonder you hadn’t heard. And let’s not forget that storage shed in Perth that had stacks and stacks of papers relating to the W&O fund amongst other matters AWU circa 1990s. Apparently once the storage unit’s existence was revealed (2011?), some papers mysteriously vanished.

  14. Honesty

    It was years ago, it was on a church board in Melbourne and it said.
    “what would you do if Jesus came to Hawthorn” under this someone wrote “move Peter Hudson out to Centre Half Forward”. You just don’t get this quality these days.

  15. Tom

    How is what monty doing any different from what Tony N was doing but the former doesn’t get the flick?

    Correct.

  16. Armadillo

    3. “You’re a poofwagon homobobo asschomper” “BAMMED!!”

    In case you are wondering mOnster, that refers to the comment about Shitfers “party”. I mean, you’re both on the “same side” and I hardly doubt he would “own you” like we do? Unless of course you blokes are into that sort of thing. I wouldn’t be surprised. Just keep it to yourselves OK?

  17. Perhaps I’ll call you Tapir instead.

  18. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Oh, I did not think you were sneering at all Gab! That was genuinely new information for me. I get that a fair bit for that whole period ’93 thru to ’02. If shitfer said something I did not bother to read it, I am working on some research at the moment so I skim the most boring or our pet idiots. Monty excepted, he’s amusing in a round-bottomed punching bag kind of way.

    Not having seen this information before I was pretty appalled – anyone stealing from widows and orphans is about the lowest act I can imagine.

    The funny thing is I can see a union boss doing something like that.

  19. twostix

    Well, good to see several other people tell the hyperventilating IQ50 that the Pickering story is old news.

    Good news people: step one of the pre-prepared Gillard Scandal Handwaving plan has been initiated: “Hey it’s old news, who cares!”.

    Shortly Steve will be forced to approve it with his famous “non story” stamp of approval as he did for the AWU scandal which apparently now has an entire team of detectives working on it. Remember that the AWU scandal too started out with steve and the lefts cry of “old news”. Shortly they’ll upgrade this new one to “sleaze” then “she didn’t know what she was doing”, then the final stage of approval to “non story” and we’re there.

  20. Gab

    VIC Parliament, 5 October 1994:

    ELDER: Let’s look at Miss Julia Gillard, who has been touted as one of the 35 per cent faction, the new faction that is evolving within the Victorian ALP. She was rewarded by the former government, becoming Chairperson of the Chiropractors and Osteopaths Registration Board. It may have been only a little job, but she was paid to do it. A crony and a mate of the ALP was paid to do it! It is amazing how they keep sticking their heads up. They were given jobs so they could campaign for Parliament for 12 months, and if they lost their seats they had jobs to help them ease their way back into mainstream society. Peter Redlich has been mentioned before in this house. He was appointed to the position of Chairman of the TAB as well as to numerous other positions.

    What was his expertise? He was a solicitor for the ALP who was paid for services rendered.

  21. johanna

    The theft of the widows and orphans’ money has been known about for a long time – thanks to Michael Smith, for one.

    The caring luvvie media, which is always deeply concerned about human rights (as long as it doesn’t include naming Aboriginal leaders for child abuse, Labor politicians who steal money and so on) decided that it was not even worthy of mention.

  22. Rabz

    DEMMABEBDLUOHSYTNOM

    Conjures up an image of JC emptying a bucket of that hideously toxic bathroom cleaner all over the aforementioned individual.

  23. jumpnmcar

    How would this lot go in a Melbourne where double barrel hyphenated name are the lefty fashion.

  24. Pickles

    On a railway overpass near St Peter’s station in Sydney circa 1980:

    Arms for Bangladesh!

    Scrawled underneath:

    Legs for Tito!

  25. Carpe Jugulum

    And who else better to have to hire than rentseeking envirotard, with funding, out searching for the rare gummi toad.

    This is sort of in my field & i’ve worked with some very good environment assessors over the years, and realistically, anyone with a modicum of reasearch nouse can do one with some friendly guidance.

    The hard part is wading through the shreiking eco-harpies and government pencilnecks with an inflated sense of self importance, not to mention the chest deap red tape pool.

  26. nic

    (as long as it doesn’t include naming Aboriginal leaders for child abuse, Labor politicians who steal money and so on)

    Hmmm. Perhaps we should start a list of the topics not worthy of mentioning?

  27. Tom

    If you haven’t done already, Mk50, it is worth six minutes of your time to listen to this interview done this morning with Michael Smith.

  28. Tom

    Woops. Sorry. That interview runs 14 minutes.

  29. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    And believe me, Gab, slogging thought this is as dry as dust. I can’t tell how much coffee I’ve had today.

    NICHOLSON, D.F., Australia’s Trade Relations: An Outline History of Australia’s Overseas Trading Arrangements, Cheshire, Melbourne, 1955

    Not the most thrilling topic, so split screening with the Cat’s keeping me awake.

  30. Beef

    How would this lot go in a Melbourne where double barrel hyphenated name are the lefty fashion.

    The Looney-Warde union is all lefty, I bet SHY was a product of the Looney-Warde union for IVF donors.

  31. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Thanks Tom! I can study and listen at the same time.

  32. Not only is it old news, it has been mentioned in Catallaxy threads many times by many people over the last couple of years.

    I am enjoying though, how the shockingly brief honeymoon of the Mighty Tone is being handwaved away with a burst of “but look what the ex PM might have done, if we disbelieve her, 20 years ago!”

  33. Infidel Tiger

    I am enjoying though, how the shockingly brief honeymoon of the Mighty Tone is being handwaved away with a burst of “but look what the ex PM might have done, if we disbelieve her, 20 years ago!”

    I have contempt for both. She should be in prison, he should be helping to imprison leftists rather than making nice with the wretched swines.

  34. Armadillo

    MK50 – Smithy has all the old newspaper clippings and his editorials along with readers comments still on his site. From memory, he spent a fair bit of time on that aspect at one stage. He then became aware of just how huge the story was. The MSM can’t even report on yesterdays news let alone delving back into that. The fact that Pickering has, seems to me to indicate that it may in fact become more relevant in the not too distant future. Pickering does some good stuff, but he also does some really poor stuff as well.

  35. Carpe Jugulum

    I am enjoying though, how the shockingly brief honeymoon of the Mighty Tone is being handwaved away with a burst of “but look what the ex PM might have done, if we disbelieve her, 20 years ago!”

    So pleasing to see you endorse the theft of a widows and orphans fund.

  36. Beef

    Good info on enviro assesors Carpe, thanks.

  37. Cold-Hands

    TLS claimed that she would not sue Pickering because he was broke (a recently discharged(?) bankrupt). Obviously she values money above a hard won reputation. The alternative is that the allegations were true but according to the MSM, there’s no way a sitting Labor PM could ever stoop so low as to defraud the widows and children of blue collar workers.

  38. Carpe Jugulum

    Thanks Beef, but the level of regulation in getting a project going in Aust is a great reason to go work offshore.

  39. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Old hands, I have seen a beached sperm whale that did not smell as bad as that.

  40. Oh come on

    He’s despicable in the wrist possible way. Look at his golf swag for a start and what he’s wearing on the course.

    I realised last night when Fisk reposted the shot of m0nty on the l1nks that this would be coming around again.

  41. Oh come on

    Stupid Commonwealth Bank website’s crapped out for an hour. I blame privatisation.

  42. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    PIMF. COLD HANDS.

  43. Oh come on

    Being described as an old hand is a compliment, don’t worry.

  44. Armadillo

    For those unsure of who Dominic Knight is (refered to above in the interview on Paul Murray Live about Australians fighting in Syria):

    Dominic Knight has lived in Sydney his whole life, except for two years in primary school when his parents took him to London, where he got to sample the artistic highs of European culture and the lumpy-custard lows of British food.

    Dom’s main claim to infamy is that he’s one of the guys who founded The Chaser in 1999. It began as a satirical newspaper in a small terrace house over the road from Sydney Uni and was very exclusive, which is a nice way of saying that absolutely nobody read it.

    This is also largely true of the novels he’s written, but he’s continuing to write them anyway because he likes telling people at dinner parties that he’s a novelist. Since then he’s worked mainly on the group’s TV shows, and has only been arrested once.

    Dom’s first radio experience came in The Chaser team’s early years, hosting late night shows on a commercial music station. He found that he loved backannouncing Nickelback songs and giving away icy cold cans of cola, and has done so at social functions ever since, which may explain why he’s not invited to many.

    In his spare time, Dom loves to play guitar, video games and tennis, all at an equally mediocre level. He’s conducting an ongoing quest to find the world’s least manly coffee order (current winner – skim piccolo latte) and enjoys karaoke, which is more than can be said for those who have to listen to him doing it. His life ambition is to make the Wall of Fame at Ding Dong Dang.

    Courtesy of the ABC website. He must also “moonlight” on other programmes because his 3 hour “radio gig” saw him miss out on the $170K cut-off for publication of ABC wages extortion figures.

  45. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    So Dominic Knight is aiming for the position of ‘World Champion Beta Male’?

    Monty, Shitfer, Numbers and Scumshine have competition then.

  46. Oh come on

    That’s a pretty good line in self-deprecation. Credit where credit’s due, fellas.

  47. Beef

    but the level of regulation in getting a project going in Aust

    And so the actual man hours, backburning and scrub clearing that would have previously occured is now reduced. Yet up she goes with all that tinder and decimates the Flora/Fauna, regardless, only with greater devestation.

    What are we saving again? I’d like to start with humans first, then work down the list doing an Environmental impact study. Stopping

    Q: Likelyhood of human loss if bush cleared with fire management protocols Vs Lack of management to save (spotted fruit newt.)

    Sorry but the spotted fruit newt best be digging in, as it probably has for thousands of years worth of fires.

  48. Tiny Dancer

    mOron looks like a beached sperm whale. When is Custer retaking the speakers chair fatty?

  49. For those unsure of who Dominic Knight is (refered to above in the interview on Paul Murray Live about Australians fighting in Syria):

    Assuming he wrote his own bio. it gives you a fair indication of the wealth of comedic talent he possesses. I laughed out loud, oh, no times.

  50. Tiny Dancer

    Ghostwhovotes has the Essential Poll 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 51 (-1) ALP 49 (+1).

    come on mOron, should this poll be banned?

  51. Oh come on

    Perhaps you’re right, Gab. Probably it’s my low expectations; as a paid-up member of Club Left, I was expecting him to have a smarmy git bio.

  52. entropy

    Oh come on
    #1105371, posted on December 10, 2013 at 5:34 pm
    That’s a pretty good line in self-deprecation. Credit where credit’s due, fellas.

    Nup, don’t think so. Far too contrived, it just screams “look at me!”

  53. Oh come on

    Ent (and others) – see above!

  54. Armadillo

    come on mOron, should this poll be banned?

    Dance Man, I suspect that both the words “banned” and “bammed” will result in mOnster heading off to the corner to assume the foetal position for quite some time to come.

  55. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    So pleasing to see you endorse the theft of a widows and orphans fund.

    And as I said earlier upthread, for all we know, some ‘Widow’s and Orphan’s Union Christmas Fund’ may well be stumping up for Stevie’s Sussex Street Reward Program up the Cross.

    Full discretion assured, eh, Stevie?

    Can’t you just hear Tiny Tim Cratchit calling out “God bless us, every one!” over his meagre Christmas Dinner as the little crippled lad fades out in favour of institutional leftism’s greater need?

  56. calli

    Dominic Knight. Nice head tilt, and a poor little oppressed Grammar boy to boot. He has a suitably ‘ironic’ bio, just to compensate.

  57. JimD

    Calli I’m Concious What about the aero Q .seriously.

  58. H B Bear

    That’s a pretty good line in self-deprecation. Credit where credit’s due, fellas.

    It’s not self-deprecation when you are a knob jockey. Just another perma-adolescent attached to the taxpayers tit care of Aunty ALPBC.

  59. JC

    News Flash,
    Miranda Kerr heart broken.

    Harry Clarke wouldn’t marry/ have a relationship with Miranda Kerr.
    This has to be right up there as the strangest blog piece in the history of Oz blogging.

    I liked this piece from the SMH commenting on the Miranda Kerr-James Packer liason. The hypocrisy demonstrated here in relation to the taboo on marrying for money or for reasons of sexual atractiveness alone are important social facts. Regardless of how unpleasant, boring and philistine a male is there is always a beautiful woman ready to have sex with him provided he has sufficient wealth. It is the way (most?) women would think if they could. In addition, regardless of the absolute shallowness and lack of intelligence of a beautiful woman there will always be a wealthy man interested in bedding her on the basis of a long-term contract that is expensive to exit. This is how (most?) men would think if they could. Miranda Kerr and James Packer you deserve each other. James can count his billions and Miranda will have plenty of time to flutter her eyelashes and smoothe out any future stretch marks.

    And of course in making these observations am I being a moral observer or am I exhibiting my own form of hypocrisy. Would I if I could? Well, maybe, but probably not a Miranda Kerr.

  60. JC

    Ghostwhovotes has the Essential Poll 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 51 (-1) ALP 49 (+1).

    come on mOron, should this poll be banned?

    He’s just a big fat mouth, that’s all.

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    A little derivative? Perhaps Dominic has applied for membership:

    The Book of Heroic Failures: The Official Handbook of the Not Terribly Good Club of Great Britain

    by Stephen Pile

    Stephen Pile is a Renaissance Man, equally unable to do a vast range of activities.

    The Not Terribly Good Club of Great Britain

    Western civilization is obsessed with success, even though most of us have a genuine flair for the exact opposite. Three years ago Stephen Pile decided to do something about it: he formed the Not Terribly Good Club of Great Britain. To get into the Club you had to be not terribly good at something and preferably downright awful. Members addressed the Club on the things they did worst or couldn’t do at all. Sometimes they would give displays and win standing ovations. Over the years they held appalling musical evenings, art exhibitions and so on until the membership grew from 20 to 200. The book contains an application form for membership.”

  62. Harry Clarke wouldn’t marry/ have a relationship with Miranda Kerr.
    This has to be right up there as the strangest blog piece in the history of Oz blogging.

    I bet Miranda Kerr is gutted. Absolutely gutted.

  63. Oh come on

    What does it say about Harry’s absolute shallowness and lack of intelligence that he would make such prognostications in spite of only assuming Packer’s with Kerr because of her looks and she’s with him because of his money? Yes it’s a simple assumption because her appearance is her most prominent public feature – and his money is his – but you know what they say about assuming. And we live in a complex world. I’m sure Harry would consider himself a “subtle mind” – not so subtle on this occasion.

  64. Oh come on

    Perhaps Dominic has applied for membership:

    Well he didn’t even make the fairly mediocre Chaser cut, so I guess you have a point, Lizzie.

  65. JC

    OCO

    Harry possesses a nasty unpleasant envy streak which oftentimes gets a little ahead of him. He needs to keep it in check, that’s all.

  66. harrys on the boat

    Maybe we need m0nty to field this one.

    M0nty, what would a female see in a hideously ugly, obese man with a terrible dress sense?

  67. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Derivative Rules this evening for Harry Clarke. As Our Jane tells it long ago:

    IT is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.

    However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighbourhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered as the rightful property of some one or other of their daughters.

    “My dear Mr. Bennet,” said his lady to him one day, “have you heard that Netherfield Park is let at last?”

    Mr. Bennet replied that he had not.

    “But it is,” returned she; “for Mrs. Long has just been here, and she told me all about it.”

    Mr. Bennet made no answer.

    “Do not you want to know who has taken it?” cried his wife impatiently.

    “You want to tell me, and I have no objection to hearing it.”

    This was invitation enough.

    “Why, my dear, you must know, Mrs. Long says that Netherfield is taken by a young man of large fortune from the north of England; that he came down on Monday in a chaise and four to see the place, and was so much delighted with it that he agreed with Mr. Morris immediately; that he is to take possession before Michaelmas, and some of his servants are to be in the house by the end of next week.”

    “What is his name?”

    “Bingley.”

    “Is he married or single?”

    “Oh! single, my dear, to be sure! A single man of large fortune; four or five thousand a year. What a fine thing for our girls!”

  68. jumpnmcar

    I bet Miranda Kerr is gutted. Absolutely gutted.

    “Literally gutted ” like Adam Goodes was.

  69. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC
  70. Carpe Jugulum

    what would a female see in a hideously ugly, obese man with a terrible dress sense?

    Well, for a lady of negotiable virtue about $150/hr

  71. Tom

    Encouraged by Qantas hater and self-appointed aviation knowall Nick Xenophon, the Fucktard Media Industrial Complex has gone into full Alan Joyce Derangement Syndrome, reporting rumours that they my soon “get” their hated tribal enemy, who started out as a gay luvvee, but made the mistake of standing up to union thugs to save his company.

  72. It’s a coupla weeks old, but this article from John Cassidy “US Inequality in Six Charts” seems an appropriate one for this blog.

    Also, I see that Krugman is busy putting the boot into Republicans who seem to be highly motivated to punish people who are already struggling.

  73. kae

    Tiny Tim will be fine with the NDIS…

  74. the Fucktard Media Industrial Complex

    You do know using such terminology repeatedly makes you sound like a permanent 15 year, don’t you? No? Well, take it from your friend (ahahahah) that it does.

    And it would also upset Lizzie, if only you were a Lefty.

  75. blogstrop

    Two more miss-able links from our own Quasimodo.

  76. Cold-Hands

    Unfortunately the documentation regarding the Windows and Orphan’s fund has yet to be found. It is highly likely that the paperwork has been destroyed and Wilson and Gillard will escape justice for this (alleged) crime. Unluckily for them, it appears that there is enough material from S&G to secure a conviction. I wonder if more of the full transcript of TLS’s exit interview will become available as more and more of it is no longer subject to privilege.

  77. egg_

    Give ‘em a choice – Aunty or a car industry.

    Sorry egg, but old man taught me..”fuck em give em nothin take em nowhere”

    The nancy’s pledged not to touch Aunty, he’ll f*ck the car industry to his detriment (watch the polls, mOnty).

  78. Armadillo

    Peter Reith is about the only Liberal out there having a go. If anyone gets a chance, check out “The Dumb” episode later on. Goodness me, talk about a tutorial on how to take the left apart. If he had equal time, there would have blood on the floor. Mind you, his opponents were hardly worthy – Burgmann and Benson + the presenter. The Liberals really need to start kicking these pricks around. Reith should be Abbotts media manager at the very least. I’m not saying that Abbott needs to be the “head kicker”. But forgiveness sake, give some of these younger ones some free reign to get stuck into these idiots. And get Reith to show them how.

  79. Carpe Jugulum

    Putin vs the preshizzle (Paco™)

    You will note from the link that Ogabe bowing as low as he did was a sign of being subserviant.

    Thankfully it wasn’t a meeting on tatami matting or he would have gone the full fellatio.

  80. Even Rupert thinks inequality is of concern:

    Good US and UK figures this week. Don’t trust them until we see much more. People still having hard times. Rich richer, poor poorer.

  81. JC

    Stepford:

    How is da inequality measured that you’re so concerned with. What metrics?

  82. Ghostwhovotes has the Essential Poll 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 51 (-1) ALP 49 (+1).

    Essential is always the last to move due to its structure. Poll of polls would be 51:49 Labor. Abbott already behind less than three months in. All political capital disappeared already. Heckuva job.

    I see Sussan Ley is the next Liberal to get the shyte kicked out of her by the public for a terrible policy. The Abbott government is a procession of failure.

  83. Tom

    Shitfer thinks quoting from ShakeMyHead.com’s free comic gives him credibility. LOL.

  84. Armadillo

    It is highly likely that the paperwork has been destroyed and Wilson and Gillard will escape justice for this (alleged) crime.

    You could also perhaps follow the money. And eye witness statements and so on. One copy maybe destroyed, but others are kept. There is more than one trail that leads into the dark woods. It may well be quite easy to destroy your own records, but there is always duplicate copies to other parties. And other avenues.

  85. This column is very consistent with what monty and I were saying about the Pope and Catholic social teaching and economics:

    The pope is hardly a neo-Marxist. He talks of business as “a noble vocation.” He rejects a “welfare mentality.” But he argues that market outcomes are not always identical to social justice and calls for public “investment in efforts to help the slow, the weak or the less talented to find opportunities in life.”

    Those surprised that Catholic social thought is incompatible with libertarianism haven’t been paying attention — for decades. Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI said the same. And all warned of the danger when a mode of economic exchange becomes a mind-set. Absent a moral commitment to human dignity, justice and compassion, capitalism is conducive to materialism, individualism and selfishness. It is a system that depends on virtues it does not create.

    In “The Joy of the Gospel,” Francis returns to the defining theme of his papacy: the priority of the person. Human beings have an essential value and nature. They can’t be reduced to economic objects or to the sum of their desires. “We do not live better,” he says, “when we flee, hide, refuse to share, stop giving and lock ourselves up in our own comforts. Such a life is nothing less than slow suicide.”

    The pope contends that individualism can dull us to the requirements of justice, and that prosperity can be a prison. In making this case, Francis is demonstrating that Christian faith is not an ideology; it stands in judgment of all ideologies, including the ones we justify in the name of freedom.

  86. JC

    The Abbott government is a procession of failure.

    Whereas you thought the Lying Slapper’s was a procession of success. Go eat a bag of donuts you insufferable land whale.

  87. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Give it a rest Monty, it’s going to get calluses on it!

  88. .

    I disagree with Harry, paticularly if I was part of the global mega wealthy elite and Kate Upton thought I was a wonderful potential husband.

  89. Gerard Henderson boned from the SMH, says their EIC. He will be on the warpath this week.

  90. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Armadillo:

    Peter Reith is about the only Liberal out there having a go. If anyone gets a chance, check out “The Dumb” episode later on.

    Link?

  91. Tim Colebatch has left Fairfax today too, which is a pity. He had become a consistently clear and good read.

  92. Oh come on

    m0nty trolls…night and day. What a tragic individual he is.

  93. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Ah, gotcha, thanks!

  94. Armadillo

    Link?

    Replay tonight on ABC24 (I think) at the same time as Lateline at 10.30 on ABC24. Not sure if they put it online though?

  95. egg_

    No wuz, it usually doesn’t take long after the on-air program.

  96. Infidel Tiger

    Tim Colebatch has left Fairfax today too, which is a pity. He had become a consistently clear and good read.

    Excellent news. although the poor stupid cnut hardly needed you to leave a steamer in his briefcase with that parting shot.

  97. Oh come on

    I see Sussan Ley is the next Liberal to get the shyte kicked out of her by the public

    Trolling AND wishful thinking. Quite a combo.

    Au contraire, Ley kicked the shyte out of Plibersek in QT today, who couldn’t even manage a response. She’s got the smarts to take it to the hapless opposition.

  98. JC

    Oh come on
    #1105459, posted on December 10, 2013 at 7:20 pm

    m0nty trolls…night and day. What a tragic individual he is.

    Thank god he’s single and not newly married, hey? Lol

  99. Carpe Jugulum

    OMG, people leave failing leftard newspaper, quick muster & shitfer. Give us film at 11.

  100. James in Melbourne

    The Abbott government is a procession of failure.

    Yeah, M0nty, we want the Clusterfuq back. Because they were so, like, competent.

  101. JC

    This column is very consistent with what monty and I were saying about the Pope and Catholic social teaching and economics:

    You and fatboy have PhD’s in theology now, Stepford?

  102. Carpe Jugulum

    Replay tonight on ABC24

    They actually replay that bilge?

    Yeah/No, i’ll watch anime on Fuji.

  103. Infidel Tiger

    Monty loved Mandela in Driving Miss Daisy.

  104. You could also perhaps follow the money. And eye witness statements and so on. One copy maybe destroyed, but others are kept. There is more than one trail that leads into the dark woods. It may well be quite easy to destroy your own records, but there is always duplicate copies to other parties. And other avenues.

    That branch of the AWU didn’t have much luck at all during Wilson’s rise. One official, already stressed out knowing that Wilson was going to install his own cronies in key positions, took 260 grand out of the office safe, put it on the office counter to count it, went to lunch half-way through his counting and dang if he didn’t forget to lock the office door. Wouldn’t you know it, while he was out some swine stole the lot! It was just sheer bad luck, too, that he had given the secretary the day off. The poor bugger retired, heartbroken, to his seaside home and boat not long after.

  105. Armadillo

    Sorry. ABC1 & ABC24? Hey, flick the switch between the two – they are pretty much full of the same leftard bullshit. They should split them between the left and the right, leaving ABC 3 to the Kids until 9PM and the Greens afterwards. ABC2 should be taken over by SBS to show the “nudie rudie stuff”. All the SBS channels can then be devoted to upcoming live coverage of Labor/Union court cases.

  106. Carpe Jugulum

    Monty loved Mandela in Driving Miss Daisy. Attack on Fort Apache

  107. harrys on the boat

    You funny bastard, IT.

  108. H B Bear

    Fauxfacts still has to sack people?

    Who knew? I suspect management just do it to make themselves feel better after looking at the share price and P&L, like kicking the dog when Grandma farts on Christmas Day.

  109. Tom

    Monty loved Mandela in Driving Miss Daisy. Attack on Fort Apache F Troop.

  110. harrys on the boat

    M0nty loved Mandela in Invictus where he played himself.

  111. Cold-Hands

    people leave failing leftard newspaper

    Has the “Daily Mail” announced any signings?

  112. Denise

    johanna
    #1105199, posted on December 10, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    A long time ago, I lived in Newtown (inner city Sydney), and someone spraypainted “Free Nelson Mandela” on a brick wall, as was fashionable to do at the time. Fortunately, a wag came along and wrote “Archbishop Tutu, 50% off!” underneath it. Magnificent, and I still chuckle when I think of it.

    As regards government strategy, I must agree that all this nicey-nice stuff is a bad idea. Campbell Newman took on his opponents head-first, with no apologies, and his popularity increased. That’s not to say that recent lunacies about motorbike riders etc are defensible. But, in the first few months he dismantled a lot of the previous government’s power bases, openly and unapologetically, and the public applauded. After all, what’s the point of changing the government if nothing else changes?

    It may be that there is a Cunning Plan over the medium and long term, but at present the government just looks weak.

    Yes we don’t want him to be like Sally Field receiving her Oscar ‘You like me! You really really like me!’ We want him to kick the asses of all the loudmouthed bullies and thieves in Labor (‘convoy of no consequence) good and hard. And then kick them in the ribs when they’re down. And repossess their taxpayer-funded underwear. Just bin that but leave ‘em bruised and naked, preferably on a pavement next to a four-lane highway. With a TV crew lovingly recording all the details. We won’t mind Tony wearing his budgy smugglers either.

    Some of the people in the poll might be fed up, like us, with being fobbed off by Malcolm Turnbull’s patronising advice to complain directly to the ABC knowing full well that we’d be knocked back and given the finger.

    I remember some graffiti in South Africa when the Stompie Maketsi murder came out, ‘Winnie’s in the poo’. If only….

  113. calli

    I just watched ‘Flight’. That was early Mandela, before he was discovered?

  114. H B Bear

    Jewish vanity press is the new destination of choice for failed Leftards.

  115. Makka

    “Several massive resource projects have been approved on the Great Barrier Reef coast by the federal government including the dredging and dumping of spoil near the reef and a new coal export terminal.

    Environmentalists have hit out at the decision, with the WWF and the Greens saying it further industrialises and threatens the world heritage protected icon”

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/government-approves-massive-resource-projects-on-great-barrier-reef-coast-20131210-2z3z2.html#ixzz2n3kanFw0

  116. egg_

    Caught Morgan Freeman Driving Miss Daisy playing Mandella last Saturday night.
    Confused mOnster?

  117. Good article on the (partial) right wing conservative backlash on Mandela, which has had its fair share of representation at this blog.

    Amusingly, the article shows pretty convincingly that William F Buckley Jnr said if he were a black South African, he would have supported violence to overthrow the South African regime too.

    I also note that, with bizarre inappropriateness, Rick Santorum said this on Fox:

    “Nelson Mandela stood up against a great injustice and was willing to pay a huge price for that, and that’s the reason he is mourned today, because of that struggle that he performed,” the former Pennsylvania senator said on Fox’s “The O’Reilly Factor.”

    “And I would make the argument that we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with an ever increasing size of government that is taking over and controlling people’s lives, and Obamacare is front and center in that.”

    I certainly hope for entertainment value that he runs for President again.

  118. Fisky

    Santorum once again confirms the wise judgment of Republican primary voters.

  119. Aaron

    I see Sussan Ley is the next Liberal to get the shyte kicked out of her by the public

    Ley’s been kicking the shit of the Labor Party since Parliament resumed and Kate Ellis in particular has been kicked to the kerb. I doubt she’d be worried about upsetting the crooks at United Voice who stole millions of dollars from the Australian taxpayer to forcibly conscript childcare workers to their pissant trade union.

  120. It’s all set up for a Clint Eastwood run in 2016. He’ll win too, if the Dems put up an empty chair.

  121. Makka

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-10/peter-truong-jailed-over-global-paedophile-ring/5146366

    “Police say the pair allowed at least eight men in several different countries, including Australia, the US, Germany and France, to molest the boy when he was between two and six years old.”

    I have scanned the article and cannot see any reference to the fact that these deviants are homosexuals.

  122. Tom

    This should be the best drive time (4pm-7pm) radio since Tony Martin and Mick Molloy’s Martin Molloy in the 1990s:

    (The Daily Telegraph’s) Joe Hildebrand and FOX FM breakfast host Matt Tilley will host Triple M’s networked drive program next year.

    Tilley, who recently concluded a ten-year stint in the breakfast slot at Melbourne’s Fox FM continues his third decade with Southern Cross Austereo in the new gig for the Today network’s sister station.

    Hildebrand recently began a stint co-hosting Network Ten’s morning program Studio 10 and launched his first book, Average Joe.

    Hildebrand said in a statement, “People have often told me I have a great face for radio and so I am thrilled to prove them all right.”

    “It is massively exciting to be part of the new show at Triple M and what I think will be a whole new kind of FM radio,” he said.” If it works it’ll be the funniest, sharpest, rockingest two hours of radio in the country. And if it doesn’t I’m blaming Ita Buttrose.”

    Thankfully, I still have Triple M in my infrared remote presets. Starts January 20.

  123. tomix


    I certainly hope for entertainment value that he runs for President again.

    +1
    If a spoiler is again required, i’m sure he will.

  124. Tracey

    Our new Speaker is the guest on tonight’s Cabinet Kitchen repeat. I missed this one at the time. Let’s hope the little floral poppet watched her Ps and Qs while in Bronny’s presence.

  125. Armadillo

    I doubt she’d be worried about upsetting the crooks at United Voice who stole millions of dollars from the Australian taxpayer to forcibly conscript childcare workers to their pissant trade union.

    Another example of the Liberals not getting it out into the wider media (or perhaps I should read more, and drink less)? The first I saw of that was in QT today. Wasn’t that the name of the organisation or something that Thompson used when he was campaigning for Dobell (the pamplets)? And wasn’t Michael Williamson using a company called “United Edge” for computing services to the HSU? I’m gunna go with my gut feeling here and say “too much drink”. “United” may well be just a coincidence.

  126. United Voice is the main union here in Tas.

  127. I think the conservative Catholic take on Mandela (but, but, he was pro-choice!) as shown by CL was pretty strange too.

    I was interested to check the actual abortion rate there, but have trouble finding anywhere that lists it as a number per 1,000 women of fertile age, which is the common way you see comparative international figures given.

    Still, I’ve found an article saying that last year there were 85,000 odd public sector abortions, and 43,000 Marie Stopes ones. I think that means a total of 127,000 odd abortions, compared to Australian estimates of perhaps 80,000 to 100,000 per year. Yet the SA population is about double ours.

    The point is, for all the huffing and puffing of CL about the laws there, it looks likely that South Africa has a substantially lower rate of abortion than Australia. (!)

    Tony Abbott must be condemned for not doing something about this via Medicare funding immediately. Right? Am I right? CL?

  128. The point is, for all the huffing and puffing of CL about the laws there, it looks likely that South Africa has a substantially lower rate of abortion than Australia. (!)

    Not only that, but in South Africa, thank God, you can’t get AIDS if you have a shower and wash properly after sex.

  129. JC

    Stepford

    The last six or so comments you’ve made are basically blog posts/ or just meant to incite people here.. ie trolling.
    If you’re that interested in these subjects fuck off and go write them up on your blog.

  130. Gerard Henderson to be replaced at the SMH with Peter Reith. That will increase the Abbott bashing, albeit from the other side.

  131. Tom

    Shitfer, the abortionist, would kill the children himself with his bare hands, so important is it to be on the wrong side of every major moral argument.

  132. Motelier

    Psssstttt

    New thread open

  133. Tintarella di Luna

    Monty the ball bearing has dropped into the Catallaxy pin ball machine. How long before JC tilts the machine..

    Would this be monty’s theme song then?

  134. Oh come on

    It’s all set up for a Clint Eastwood run in 2016. He’ll win too, if the Dems put up an empty chair.

    Pfft. Eastwood’s speech was clever and original. You don’t have to agree with what he was saying but why can’t you at least be honest about that? If it were Oliver Stone addressing an empty chair symbolising Mitt Romney, you’d have soiled yourself with star-struck adulation.

    Go on, issue your phoney denials. They won’t be believed.

  135. DrBeauGan

    Aw, Lizzie, I am consumed by blackest guilt. Did I but know your address, I should attempt to express the depths of my remorse by posting you a whole Tim-Tam.
    I get along with my dear old Mum well enough in the main, but she shares with you this affectation. I imagine when in her youth she heard a gentleman make a remark she might have said something like: ‘La,sir, one might almost take you for a Whig!’, and seeing his jaw drop follow it hastily with
    ‘ But my poor little intellect cannot deal with politics. Let us discourse on matters of greater import, such as shoes.’
    Whereupon he would drop his eyes to the hem of her crinoline, and twirl his moustache, and mutter to himself that she was a very feminine woman.
    She must have been seen as femine on at least three occasions else neither my siblings nor I would be here. But I don’t see her in that light. I refuse to kill spiders for her when she shrieks on finding a very small one. This is the extent of my brutality. I might even dispose of a big one. I see her once a week and I think she saves them up for me.
    See, you aren’t the only one who can do artless prattle. :)

  136. Tintarella di Luna

    The FM just belted the absolute crap out of Plibersek in QT re China.

    Plibersack has grace and elegance of a Slovenian Brown Bear and the eloquence and intelligence of Broomhilda.

    It’s like comic trivial pursuit: Who is Australia’s Shadow Foreign Minister? Tanya Plibersek — hahahahhahahahhahahhahahha!

  137. calli

    ‘La,sir, one might almost take you for a Whig!’

    Dunno what Lizzie would say, but for that you get bonus points from me , Dr Beau!

    Do you also ‘make a leg’ in polite company? :)

  138. DrBeauGan

    I’ve never tried polite company Calli. Somehow I doubt I’d fit in.

  139. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From calli at 9:05 pm:

    “‘La,sir, one might almost take you for a Whig!’

    Dunno what Lizzie would say, but for that you get bonus points from me , Dr Beau!

    Do you also ‘make a leg’ in polite company?”

    Heh, heh – now those are popular expressions from a time long past. Well done the pair of you!

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    And it would also upset Lizzie, if only you were a Lefty.

    Yobbo is at liberty to call me a fucktard, Stevie. I’ll fight him with arguments, as I did. I won, btw.
    I don’t get upset at straight name calling in an honest fight. I do a fine line in that myself when roused and not under Doomlord’s firm control. I wasn’t upset about that. But ‘affectation’? Moi??!!

    Dr. BeauGan, my, my, my, my, my Mummy issues still there, then?
    Did she force feed you Georgette Heyer? La, Sir, how you amuse.
    I do hope you have a dark and thunderous masculine presence to compensate.

    My dear doctor, when you do artless prattle, it is reminiscent of Dr. Johnson, the dog and the female, albeit in reverse. There is an art to artless prattle as Miss Austin has so felicitously demonstrated. Derivative prattling just will not do if you and I are to take a stroll in the Vauxhall Gardens of the Cat. For that, as the sardonic hero, you must provide banter suitable to rouse the beating heart and strain the yearning bodices of all weak females towards your hard and domineering embrace.

    Derivatives. My good fellow, I have no taste or passion for such. I have made that point so often tonight already that truly, Sir, it wearies me to continue in converse with you on the matter of artless prattle.

    Hey, Bogie. Unless you are a derivatives trader. PhD in maths and now gone bad and made good?
    That is another barrel of fish in which to pass a line. How much are you worth?

  141. dover_beach

    It’s very sad and pathetic to sfb troll so hard and yet fail to attract any attention – having used a variety of bait (inequality, Tea Party, Republicans, Gerard Henderson, Francis, Catholic social teaching) – that he finally feels the desperate need to use: abortion.

  142. Fisky

    It’s very sad and pathetic to sfb troll so hard and yet fail to attract any attention – having used a variety of bait (inequality, Tea Party, Republicans, Gerard Henderson, Francis, Catholic social teaching) – that he finally feels the desperate need to use: abortion.

    Yes, it was a pretty poor return for Stepford.

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