I wish it were true

Labor MP Brendan O’Connor has a vivid imagination thinking that there is a conspiracy between the Coalition Government and News Corporation to ‘destroy’ the ABC.

When I read this I wept with joy. But then I realised it couldn’t be true. Unfortunately.

There’s a lot to like about an ABC corpse. It would fertilise new business opportunities in media. Taxpayers would save billions of dollars. ABC journos would have to earn a living. The world would be a better place.

What a pity O’Connor is wrong.

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110 Responses to I wish it were true

  1. Zatara

    President Vladimir Putin today dissolved the main Russian state news agency and replaced it with an organization that is to promote Moscow’s image abroad.

    Food for thought.

  2. Sid Vicious

    Brendan O’Connor is not the only ALP identity to engage in velleities. A former ALP identity – don’t these people know how to retire? – still thinks he is a federal treasurer.

  3. Rabz

    Triple Jay were bleating about this preposterous beat up on their “news” this morning.

    The luvvies are afraid, very afraid.

  4. Bruce

    The ABC is in breach of its charter and the last even remotely conservative presenter left last Sunday.

    In the election more than half of the electorate voted conservative. The ABC gives no services to conservative voters and pays no heed to our views, yet we have to pay half of their budget.

    If I liked Rice Bubbles yet every time I tried to buy it I got Fruitloops in the Rice Bubble box I would not be happy. I would seek a product which I liked and I would pay for that instead.

    And the only thing you ever find inside the Aunty ABC box are fruitloops. I have no way to stop them using my taxes to fill the box with their own inedible ideology.

    Perhaps Mr O’Connor would like to reflect on this.

  5. H B Bear

    Yes, unfortunately Abbott & Co are showing all the malice and mongrel of an English batsman pulling away to square leg with their eyes closed.

    Makes you wonder why the Liberal Party bother trying to win elections in the first place? Other than paying down Labor debt for when they are next in office.

  6. Walter Plinge

    But perhaps O’Connor is right and there really is such a conspiracy. We can but hope. Christmas would be much happier if I knew the forces of darkness were about to destroy the ABC. Something to celebrate and look forward too.

  7. minderbinder of QLD

    This concerted media campaign against the clearly elected conservative Government is bearing fruit, as evidenced in the recent polls. The longer the conservatives play the nice guys, and give their opponents free hits, the more the creepy green,s and dumb Labor, will gain electoral support. The time has arrived to bring the Tax payer funded $1,2oo M anti-conservative news organisation to be brought to heel like the rabid dog it is. There is nothing more effective to silence the ABC propaganda, lies, and deceit, than providing redundancy notices to half the 500 journos employed in this white ant organisation, and improve the budget bottom line at the same time. Get on with it!

  8. Fred Lenin

    What we need is a Real Conservative Party with policies opposing the present Laboral mob ,I call them “the National Green Laboral Party” a very apt name I think ,says it all !Politics is not about the People s Good ,its a very well paid career for a bunch of Misfits. Think,how many politicians would you regard as Normal People? Scary ,HUH?

  9. Token

    Triple Jay were bleating about this preposterous beat up on their “news” this morning.

    The luvvies are afraid, very afraid.

    Absolutely, the fruitbat lefties friends of yore on Facebook are spamming me with the image of a banana in a blender.

    They are panicking so it is critical the government be cryptic.

    When is the AFP investigation into the release of the home address of the investigation chief in Queensland starting?

  10. Brendan O’Connor is echoing the deranged Facebook entries of rusted on Abbott haters that are shouting loudly on the web. I keep an eye out most days until I feel the need to go and shower to wash it off … Deranged deniers suffering Abbott Derangement Syndrome. Attacks are on Abbott, Hockey, Turnbull and Rinehart, the same people who screamed abuse after Abbott stood near a protest sign.

  11. Arnost

    The ABC gives no services to conservative voters and pays no heed to our views, yet we have to pay half of their budget.

    Half? Proportionally more like three quarters!

  12. Sinclair Davidson

    ABC making itself the news. Very self indulgent.

  13. Baldrick

    If the Bananas in Pyjamas people can’t provide a balanced political, cultural and social view, why not cut their play-lunch money in half until they’re able to do so.

  14. Up The Workers!

    Does anybody know the home address of Mark Scott?

  15. Greigoz

    * H B Bear * You are so right. I get the feeling the Conservatives are like the dutiful parents tidying up the house after the kids have had a big party. Then quietly leaving, so the spoilt brats can come home again and trash the place all over!

  16. Leo G

    Who would forsee, but a Labor MP, a dark conspiracy, to ‘destroy’ the ABC?

    Oho said a pot to a kettle;
    You are dirty and ugly and black!
    Surely no one would think you were metal,
    Except they’ve been given some crack.
    Not so! not so! said kettle to pot;
    ’tis your own dirty image you see;
    For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
    That your blackness is mirrored in me.

  17. boy on a bike

    What is happening now is a repeat of what toppled Turnbull. Liberal members and conservative voters and hassling the be-jesus out of their newly elected coalition MPs demanding that they do something about the ABC. This is the grassroots agitating for action – not the MPs themselves. O’Connor is off his rocker if he thinks there is a conspiracy.

  18. Petros

    Another great post from Token. You’re my favourite on this blog. Once again, I agree with you. When do they draw the line? Can Newman close down the ABC in Qld at least?

  19. gabrianga

    Who or what is a Brendan O’Connor ?

    Surely not the pommy union Secretary who is listed as one of Rudd’ most ardent supporters?

    He firstly began his union career as an organiser with the now defunct Municipal Employees Union of Victoria; and was then appointed as Assistant National Secretary with the Australian Services Union before entering politics

  20. .

    Petros #1104756, posted on December 10, 2013 at 9:40 am
    Another great post from Token. You’re my favourite on this blog. Once again, I agree with you. When do they draw the line? Can Newman close down the ABC in Qld at least?

    Probably not.

    Communications is an explicit Federal head of power.

  21. Token

    What is happening now is a repeat of what toppled Turnbull. Liberal members and conservative voters and hassling the be-jesus out of their newly elected coalition MPs demanding that they do something about the ABC.

    If you look at the last 6 years, most of the major victories over the Liars Party & the reactionary left came from the grass roots.

    The resistance to the AGW cult. The reality of the failure of the pink batts (and its deadly consequences). The BER scandals. The AWU investigations. Now the ABC.

    The parlimentary party & the party hacks in each case slackly waits for momentum to be created & facts to be revealed by the grass roots.

  22. Token

    Communications is an explicit Federal head of power.

    Is there something in the crimes act about this?

    The actions of the ABC in Queensland stepped beyond any acceptable standard.

  23. Old Salt

    Boy on a bike – I have written to my Federal MP re the ABC’s performance. 20 days later the response is nil. My next tactic is to arrange an appointment with him to try to discuss the Liberal Party’s reticence in taking any action to restore a level playing field. He will eventually tire of my determination!

  24. papachango

    Unfortunately not happening.
    Bernardi can rant as much as he likes, but Abbott will not so much as tinker with ‘their’ ABC, while for three years they will have a licence to whack him as much as they like.
    This has come about for two reasons:
    a) a general lack of balls from Abbott, Turnbull & Hockey;
    b) the lefties instigating the mother of all scaremongering campaigns both pre and post-election about the Coalition’s secret plans to trash B1 & B2 (bit like the Republicans and Big Bird). This will ensure that even the tiniest funding change or board appointment will be hyperventilated about and turned into ‘evidence’ of the government’s plans to ‘gut’ the ABC. They already managed to get Turnbull to swear in blood on Q&A that they wouldn’t lay a finger on it.
    To be fair to Abbott, this is a fight he wouldn’t win, not in his first term anyway. Howard, with a big majority, had a red hot go at it and didn’t ge6t anywhere – he just got the luvvies even madder at him.
    I think with the ABC it has to be one of two strategies:
    a) don’t touch it at all; or
    b) go extremely hard and shut it down or privatise it immediately

    option b is off the table for this term, so I think go with a and let the ABC and the luvvies overreach with their wild conspiracy theories. When the time is right, compare and contrast to the lefties’ own hyperventilation about Da Murdoch.
    If there’s enough of an overreach and a bit of political support then maybe option b is a goer for the second term – though going to the election with it would be risky.

  25. egg_

    “Statutory body”?

    It was Incorporated in the 1980s for potential sell-off along with a swag of other Govt assets by the then ALP Govt.
    Per BoAB’s post quoted at Bolta’s, what’s its relevance today, when it’s no longer even an exclusive agency of the BBC?
    Zero relevance in the marketplace; if it didn’t exist, the Govt would have no need to establish it.
    1,000 (biassed) journos on borrowed time on the Govt payroll.

  26. Ant

    The ABC’s behaviour over the “Slush-Don’t-Call-It-Trust-Fund” scandal proves that it’s a party affiliated organisation which just happens to fund itself through taxpayers.

    Imagine if Abbott had been accused of drawing up legal documents for an allegedly criminal enterprise while working as a lawyer.

    That pretty much proves that the ABC can not be rehabilitated, such is the leftist infestation and rot.

    It can only be shut down. And that’s only fair.

  27. Alan Grey

    The chief psychological profile of the left is Projection.

    The think because they do a lot of dodgy things like conspiring with the news flunkies, the other side must be doing it to

  28. stackja

    Sinclair Davidson
    #1104694, posted on December 10, 2013 at 8:50 am
    ABC making itself the news. Very self indulgent.

    The term anal retentive comes to mind.

  29. Alf

    Blah Blah, the ABC is biased, it’s not fair, boo hoo. Utter bollocks – independent studies have shown it to be total nonsense. People on this site think anything that isn’t 100% aligned with their twisted thinking is bias. Try shutting it down boneheads – millions disagree with you. Have you all just arrived in Australia, or did you not notice the current government’s behaviour when they were in opposition.

    Wake up to yourselves.

  30. HK_Brother

    ABC should be stripped down to…
    => Local News
    => Sport
    => Finance
    => And maybe that school-kids focused “Behind the News” show.

    SBS should be stripped down to…
    => Just teaching new immigrants English. (Like they used to; in the 1980s).
    => FIFA/EPL (soccer), Tour de France (cycling), Dakar rally, etc.
    => Feeds from world news outlets.

    What I despise about today’s publicly funded news outlets are that they are the festering place for Leftists to conduct public orgies of collective thinking.

    Examples…
    => ABC’s Q and A.
    => SBS’s constant push for asylum seekers, gay marriage, etc.

    This is why I don’t watch either any more.

  31. Struth

    I don’t watch either anymore, or just snippets before I get angry.You usually get 15 to 20 seconds on ABC or SBS or NITV etc before you go , Oh shit , here they go again! Sometimes not even that.
    eg turned ABC on this morning and immediately ( no 15 secs even) got some numbat claiming to be a fact checker trying to push the lefts line that Rudd stopped the boats FFS.

    Many here could have shot this infantile biased analysis to pieces in seconds but instead they take our money and talk blatent left wing shit. They are traitorous to our country and in papers today , they only argue about it by scoffing and using sarcasm.
    They cannot argue. They cannot point to anything as an example of even handedness and they would if they could. The have no right wing or non biased hosts on any program. They are sick , bent and need to be kulled.
    I also have written to Turncoat with no responce. Not good enough. Keep up the work people. Right now is the time, if ever you were going to write to a minister, now is the time to do it.

  32. Kaboom

    I was always afraid that Abbott666 would have a complete lack of testicular fortitude.

    I cheered when he downed Turnbull by one vote, but I had immediate reservations as to whether he had the bottle to go in and bat for small government, and dismantle the Labor/Greenfilth mess.

    My greatest nightmare is that we have unleashed another Malcolm Fraser.

    Abbott666 needs to turn this around, very quickly, otherwise the Member for Goldman Sachs is going to be sharpening his ticket punch.

    What an abject disappointment. Can the LDP have a candidate for each electorate in 2017?

  33. Struth

    I think the LDP will be here to stay and so far will be getting my vote next election.

  34. A Lurker

    Interesting – I did some research and discovered that Brendan O’Connor is the brother of Michael O’Connor who was in a romantic relationship with Gillard way back when, and was, and perhaps remains, one of her closest confidants.

    I had thought that the two men shared only a surname (since it is quite a common one), but no, the links are far, far closer – and it is no wonder then that Brendan O’Connor is so protective of the ABC, after all the ABC is certainly doing the bidding of its Socialist/Communist masters by keeping a lid on the AWU affair for so long.

  35. Johno

    Can the LDP have a candidate for each electorate in 2017?

    Yes they can, if enough people who believe in true liberalism get behind them. Join up and stand for Parliament yourself. The hard work of standing for Parliament could not be worse than having to vote for any of the other candidates, including the misnamed Liberal Party.

  36. Token

    option b is off the table for this term, so I think go with a and let the ABC and the luvvies overreach with their wild conspiracy theories.

    Agreed, if they are not going to act they should not telegraph it and use their implied power to encourage the ABC staff to make unforced errors.

    I would respect the Coalition ministers more if they would start saying that “the will of the people is for reform” in the open each time the staff pull a stunt like they did with image of Kenny & the dog.

  37. Token

    Thanks Petros for the kind words. If you like my work, you’re going to love BOAB’s even more.

  38. egg_

    Abbott666 needs to turn this around, very quickly, otherwise the Member for Goldman Sachs is going to be sharpening his ticket punch.

    Yup, said so some time ago, brand differentiation.

  39. H B Bear

    Interesting – I did some research and discovered that Brendan O’Connor is the brother of Michael O’Connor who was in a romantic relationship with Gillard way back when, and was, and perhaps remains, one of her closest confidants.

    Perhaps it might be simpler to note who hasn’t thrown a leg over Gillard during her “rise” through the rank of the ALP. Yet further evidence, as if it were needed, of their questionable judgement.

  40. papa,

    b) go extremely hard and shut it down or privatise it immediately

    Still got my fingers crossed for declaration of a budget emergency in May and announcement of full sale of ABC & SBS in July when the new senate takes over.

  41. A Lurker

    @ H B Bear, the other thing that comes to mind is the constant and unswerving loyalty of Gillard’s ex-bed-partners to her. Makes you wonder just what sort of (sexual?) hold she has over all these men because, to be honest, she’s no Helen of Troy.

  42. James of the Glen

    Papachango is correct where he says, “This will ensure that even the tiniest funding change or board appointment will be hyperventilated about and turned into ‘evidence’ of the government’s plans to ‘gut’ the ABC”.

    Therefore let the funding changes be rather more severe and the board changes far more extensive.
    Why suffer all the whining and white-anting for small gains; make them worthwhile. There is no gain playing at the edges. Instead, announce a total restructure in 8 months time with a carve up of the monolith and a restructure of all surviving contracts.

    Divided they’ll fall and run around like headless chooks; uncertainty is the name of the game.

    (Even as I pen this, they’re summoning (ABC Radio News) every critic possible over government changes to child care.)

  43. papachango

    Instead, announce a total restructure in 8 months time with a carve up of the monolith and a restructure of all surviving contracts.

    They’ve already promised not to touch it, and unlike Labor, Abbott at least tries to keep his promises. Maybe it could be the long game and a term 2 thing if the luvvies over-reach too much…

  44. Andrew of Randwick

    Boy-on-a-bike recently pondered if starting from scratch, how would $1.2B be found in the budget to run a public broadcaster and how it would be justified.
    .
    Just some numbers to put this question in context, E&OE
    ABC Budget per year 1,200,000,000
    Cost per student 5,000
    No. of students 240,000
    No. of students per school 500
    No. of new schools that could be funded on a recurrent basis = 480
    .
    P.S. HK_Brother is wrong. Kill the ABC Sport department first. Sport is big business and no business of the ABC now – as a niche broadcaster only meant to fill gaps not provided by commercial media.

  45. Makka

    Based on the evidence to date provided by the Abbott Govt and Abbott himself, the impression given is that Abbott is going to remain very cautious at least until he sees the new Senate in place and his main promises present and accounted for. The boats, the CT, the MRRT and the Budget managed. This is his first term in a nutshell.

    I think he credits the Australian electorate with too much brains and too good a memory. The Libs vastly underestimate the influence the Leftslime can bring to bear on the average Australian’s daily media exposure. These circumstances will make for nervous Conservatives. Like these days.

    We expected more engagement with the Left, to be robust, instead we have timidity with spurts of jawboning. Abbott worries about his aggro handle. IMO, taking on the Leftslime at the ALPBC would send a shudder through the Left. It would shake them up no end, but he has to make sure what ever is left of the ALPBC is impotent , or better – nothing at all. All in all, the LNP is too timid and Turncoat is too pally with the Left to have a go.

    Things are not looking good I’m afraid and the outlook doesn’t inspire. Launching into a demolition of the ALPBC would change all that.

  46. The real reason Abbott won’t touch the ABC is that a significant segment of the Liberal/National voter base still really like it. Specifically anyone over 65. They really do consider it “aunty” and wouldn’t be happy about seeing it scrappped after providing their news and radio for the entire length of their lives.

    The ABC will never go anywhere.

  47. entropy

    I think it is more like $15k in total payments per kidlet to run a school these days, randwick dweller, but your point remains.

    The budget that currently goes to the ABC could be used for more relevant activities, likely paying down the debt, or even staying in my pocketses in the first place. I am certain I would spend it more carefully.

  48. egg_

    The real reason Abbott won’t touch the ABC is that a significant segment of the Liberal/National voter base still really like it. Specifically anyone over 65. They really do consider it “aunty” and wouldn’t be happy about seeing it scrappped after providing their news and radio for the entire length of their lives.

    Spot on, hence the absence of critique from some here.

  49. Andrew of Randwick

    entropy – I was using the Gonski number for federal government contribution – the budget at hand.
    Yes total recurrent costs are 10k (Catholic), 11k (govt), 14k (independent) – see p15

  50. Token

    The ABC will never go anywhere.

    That doesn’t mean it has to stay in the current form.

  51. james

    If the deranged fantasies of the left about evil right wingers planning massive spending cuts were even a quarter true Australia would be a better country and i would be a happier chappy.

    If this current government does nothing to reverse the publicly funded cultural domination of the left in the media and academia not only do they not deserve to get back in, they may not get back in for a long, long time.

    This is a war and they are behaving like the English cricket team.

  52. cohenite

    Aussieute has linked to the Bolt story about ABC presenter Dominic Knight arguing for equivalence between ANZACS and the muslims leaving Australia to go to Syria to fight with al qaeda.

    Bolt puts up some of the many public beheadings by al qaedas and other muslim groups.

    First Knight is a prick, beyond redemption; someone who can ignore what Islam is and compare it to its detriment to Australian military has no capacity to understand the profound difference between the 2 value sets.

    Secondly Knight writes, talks with the imprimatur of the ABC. They own him and what he vomits out his fat, ugly mouth.

    Simply put Knight and his kind who gather under the ABC web are traitors; they are fucking this nation.

  53. Andrew

    Surely the right thing for Abbott666 to do is wait for Kenny’s lawsuit to get traction, them to humiliatingly write a monster cheque for the Dogfucker incident, have the ex-Fewfacts fact checking Pravda unit go bust citing ALPBC competition, and then they will have an excuse to beat the ALPBC like a redheaded stepchild. Show the footage of every insane thing they ever allowed the warmists to say, bring out the “al Qaeda in Syria is like the Diggers” guy, and they other scumbags. The Indonesian thing, once the public has got its head around the idea that the ALPBC did this.

    If they weren’t going to act at the time of Dogfucker, their next window is when it’s back in the courts.

  54. Ronaldo

    The real reason Abbott won’t touch the ABC is that a significant segment of the Liberal/National voter base still really like it. Specifically anyone over 65.

    My wife and I are both over 65 and we loathe the betrAyBC, and rarely watch or listen to it any more, even though we both grew up with it.

  55. entropy

    Yobbo is right though, it’s a bit like a third rail. But even third rails need maintenance.

  56. Kaboom

    Johno @ 11:45 a.m.

    OK, thanks, I have done so. We really need to make a stand. The future needs to be fought for.

  57. Rabz

    First Knight is a prick

    Secondly Knight writes, talks with the imprimatur of the ABC. They own him and what he vomits out his fat, ugly mouth.

    Isn’t he connected to those chaser idiots?

  58. wreckage

    Yep, the conservative conservatives love the ABC. It was also pretty good for young kids back when they got all the BBC broadcasting. But i would happily pay for that, anyway. No real need for me to bludge off everyone for pure luxury.

  59. she’s no Helen of Troy.

    More a Mona of Altona.

  60. JimD

    The real reason Abbott won’t touch the ABC is that a significant segment of the Liberal/National voter base still really like it. Specifically anyone over 65. They really do consider it “aunty” and wouldn’t be happy about seeing it scrappped after providing their news and radio for the entire length of their lives.
    Yobbo graduates from yobo to stark raving mad mentally challenged outright fucking idiot that should be secured in a padded cell along with Scrambled Egg and Intrepid. Poor old Monts on the otherhand should just be allowed make his way unimpeded back to to Mont Park Mental Asylum (now known as Latrobe Home for the mentally left impaired.

  61. egg_

    JimD
    #1105109, posted on December 10, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    Medic! Stat!

  62. JimD

    Wreckage on path to destruction too.

  63. boy on a bike

    The real reason Abbott won’t touch the ABC is that a significant segment of the Liberal/National voter base still really like it. Specifically anyone over 65

    Interesting reasoning.

    However, we need to be careful to differentiate “seeming” from “doing”. I know that a lot of my old relos have a soft spot for the ABC – but they all actually watch Foxtel. They love things like the History Channel. Which funnily enough, is exactly the sort of channel that the ABC originally set out to be.

    The only relatives that actually watch the ABC are the old raving lefties who salivate over snowcone every week.

  64. Yobbo graduates from yobo to stark raving mad mentally challenged outright fucking idiot

    Not really sure what I said to deserve that. Is it a full moon?

  65. However, we need to be careful to differentiate “seeming” from “doing”. I know that a lot of my old relos have a soft spot for the ABC – but they all actually watch Foxtel.

    They might not watch it very often but they will still die in a ditch for it.

    Especially for rural voters, the ABC was the only television service for most of their lives. When television was the predominant form of entertainment. There is a significant emotional attachment.

  66. Zatara

    The Libs need to take a lesson from the Democrats in the US. When you have lots of things to do that are going to attract bad press…. flood the zone, to use a gridiron term.

    The press and the opposition is only capable of comprehensively bitching (0r noticing) about one or two things at a time. So give them a couple easy ones, let them take the bait, then just keep hitting them with the rest fast and furious. Obama has been getting away with that for 6 years now. To the degree that the public STILL doesn’t know about horrendous things he did he first year in office because they got lost in the mix.

    So trim a bit of ABC, let them go into their spasms, then slip a few more trimmings in. Rinse and repeat. Be smart, attrite their capability to bitch about it as a first priority.

  67. David

    More a Mona of Altona

    I would have thought Moaner Lies[a] would be mort appropriate.

    :-)

  68. David

    Bugger – that should have been “more appropriate”

  69. David

    Way from “spot on” Yobbo and Egg.
    I am on the downhill side of 70 and haven’t watched the ABC since cocky was an egg. Mostly pretentious crap.
    :-)

  70. Luke

    I know some people are worried that the ABC and its leftist support base will go into over-drive if the coalition cut its funding or make changes BUT, honestly, we are going to get 3 years of that crap anyway. The difference is that it’ll be funded to the tune of 1.2 billion dollars per year. If they are not stopped.

    They will have churned out a whole ‘nother cohort of labour voters in that time too. currently 14 to 17 yrs. The coalition have already lost the narrative. By the end of the 3 years ABC will have gone into revisionists/propaganda over-drive and will white-washed all the corruption and waste of the Labor government and seated all the countries problems from that time to current and past conservative governments. And to the extent they can’t shout down the up coming criminal cases with a narrative that Labor are honest and the government are being deceptive, they’ll see to it that they are ignored.

    When it comes to cutting the ABC, “go hard, go early…go the whole nine yards or just pack up now and go home”.

  71. egg_

    Way from “spot on” Yobbo and Egg.
    I am on the downhill side of 70 and haven’t watched the ABC since cocky was an egg. Mostly pretentious crap

    .

    “Some” David; not far off retirement myself. ;)
    Looks like Aunty hopes to ensnare Gen X /Y/&c. with ABC2 & 3.

  72. mundi

    I will reserve my view on Abbott until the senate is in place. The he can follow what Newman is starting to do: put bills through so fast the ABC don’t even have time to read them.

  73. JC

    Yobbo

    Not really sure what I said to deserve that.

    You deserve scorn for being a hypocritical fuck.

  74. Rabz

    There is a significant emotional attachment.

    Even my old man, who it hated it with a passion, wouldn’t watch or listen to anything other than the ALPBC.

    There’s just no understanding some people.

  75. boy on a bike

    Especially for rural voters, the ABC was the only television service for most of their lives. When television was the predominant form of entertainment. There is a significant emotional attachment.

    Which is why, from a political perspective (ie, to shut the Nats up), I’d carve off the rural bits, base them in somewhere like Bundaberg and fund them from a rural portfolio – not the communications portfolio. Stack the board with Nats appointees to keep them happy.

    And since country folk all go to bed at sundown, it would only need to broadcast for about 16 hours a day.

  76. thefrollickingmole

    First they need to hive off the ABC kids channels, the fact there are about 20 pay-per-view versions of the same stuff does indicate a market for it.

    Then scew it back down to a “documentaries and news” channel only, with a prohibition on the sharing newsfeeds from the likes of Al Jazera /NPR etc.

    If this is done then most of the “i like Dr Who without ads” will move on…

  77. Struth

    Let those, including conservatives that want the ABC pay for it.
    Make it a voluntary payment come tax time.
    Lets see what they make.
    People always want stuff they don’t pay for.
    Stuff the silly old buggars out there that want the ABC to remain.
    I know alot more people in regional areas are very angry with the Abc and many now have the internet and you can get that anywhere.
    The ABC is more a danger to Australia than upsetting a few rusted on ABC viewers/listeners.
    Have faith in a free market. If there is a need for a service and people are willing to pay for it and government stay out of it as much as possible, it will be supplied..
    Technology these days means you don’t need the ABC out bush anymore.
    The school of the air changed years ago, so can other bush communications.

  78. David

    base them in somewhere like Bundaberg
    BoAB
    ..and feed them lots of liquid “Bundy” [no Coke]. It would make for entertaining TV and radio.

    Egg
    Looks like Aunty hopes to ensnare Gen X /Y/&c. with ABC2 & 3

    I doubt if the wankers could snare a blind one legged rabbit if it gave itself up.

    Retirement is painless mate – don’t know how I had time to run a business there is that much to do.

    :-)

  79. Struth

    Luke #1105160, posted on December 10, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Luke’s right. They really have no choice. Not defeating an enemy is letting the enemy win.

  80. You deserve scorn for being a hypocritical fuck.

    I still don’t get why you think this. I was pointing out why Abbott won’t do it, I’m not saying it’s a point of view I agree with.

  81. Sirocco

    Yobbo – I am well on the wrong side of 70 and I haven’t watched the ABC for over a decade. I made that decision after the 2001 election. I now walk out of the room if my wife switches it on and move to the second tv and watch foxtel sports, discovery channel, anything to avoid the pretention biased crap of the ABC

  82. That’s because you’re politically aware. Here you are commenting on a political blog. Most people are not and are completely oblivious to the slant of the ABC.

  83. Eyrie

    As a German immigrant friend of mine once said about the ABC after an afternoon listening to it while working – “arts, farts and bleeding hearts”, I’m sick of it.
    Mrs Eyrie and I have pretty much given up on ABC radio and TV too. I just end up yelling at the TV or radio.

  84. gabrianga

    3rd, cohenite, the anus, Mr Wright is a “leading member” of the “Chasers.

    Definitely in line for the “Vanker of the Month” award

  85. JimD

    Copied this most succinct post from MSN.
    Quite simply, we don’t pay the ABC for their opinion piece, we pick up a Murdoch or Fairfax paper for that. The ABC are commissioned to provide an unbiased news or information service only. The sooner they get back to reporting the facts the better.

  86. .

    Yobbo

    I think you are wrong. You don’t realise how many people Gillard unintentionally made politically aware – 90% of the time making them repulsed by the unions, ALP, Greens or ABC Corp.

    People I expected to be lifelong ALP voters ended up being as anti-left as most of this blog.

  87. JimD

    Is it a full moon?
    The padded cell candidate is so devoid of knowledge and dependent upon public provision it’s obviously incapable of looking out the fucking window to see if it’s a full moon.

  88. Pretty much all of my older relatives (and all of their friends) despise Gillard and the Labor party but they still love the ABC. In many regional areas, the ABC was all they had for about 50 years.

  89. JimD

    “arts, farts and bleeding hearts”,
    Mr Eryie appears to be yet another potential witness for the prosecution vs the leader of the padded cell brigade in the case of over 65s loving the ABC.

  90. mareeS

    Labor was fond of pulling dividends out of publicly-owned corporations, even stripped a massive dividend out of the RBA. A first step for LNP would be to take solid dividends from the ABC and SBS merchandising arms, which are profitable, currently compete with private businesses and are used to subsidise various ABC and SBS operations. It would be a de facto funding cut, and a shot across the bows.

    The second is to merge the two. ABC and SBS both largely perform the same functions, so there’s huge potential for efficiencies. Both already have multiple tv and radio channels, a merged entity would have the same, without doing so under separate structures.

  91. JimD

    I think you are wrong. You don’t realise how many people Gillard unintentionally made politically aware – 90% of the time making them repulsed by the unions, ALP, Greens or ABC Corp
    Or the number of latent political aware unintentionally drawn out of the woodwork by the premature launch of ABCNews24 to give favourable coverage on its’ pulled early 2010 election campaign.
    Fine line between agreeing with Dot or not.

  92. jumpnmcar

    Pretty much all of my older relatives (and all of their friends) despise Gillard and the Labor party but they still love the ABC. In many regional areas, the ABC was all they had for about 50 years.

    Yep, all the old farmers ( Nat voters ) have ABC radio on in the shed/tractor/4WD listening to the cricket or country hour or TomWyatt or the weather.
    If the ABC is scraped then the Libs would need to form a coalition with Palmer cause Nats would be wiped out.

  93. Walter Plinge

    However, we need to be careful to differentiate “seeming” from “doing”. I know that a lot of my old relos have a soft spot for the ABC – but they all actually watch Foxtel. They love things like the History Channel. Which funnily enough, is exactly the sort of channel that the ABC originally set out to be.

    I’ve been around long enough to have fond memories of The Children’s Hour and radio announcers who spoke well. All picked up on my crystal set. Nevertheless I’m one of those who (1) could sleep easily if the ABC was sold off and (2) watches the History Channel a good deal of the time.

    It’s a while since I did economics at uni but I think ‘deadweight loss’ is the term that applies to the ABC.

  94. egg_

    The padded cell candidate is so devoid of knowledge and dependent upon public provision it’s obviously incapable of looking out the fucking window to see if it’s a full moon.

    Both have been around about a decade, Newbie.
    Looks like JC’s obs are correct; slow day at Bolta’s?

  95. Angry God

    Currently the greatest sin of the ABC is that they strip 13 minutes out of QI when the broadcast it, but not only that, they fail to return these stolen gems when it is made available on iView.

    That they are willing to commit such acts of bastardry show they have no moral compass and deserve every described punishment.

    As for their bias, they need to be hung, drawn and quartered, for freedom of the press is reliant on responsibility and integrity. They have committed acts that are not just biased but against the national interest and beyond treason on the basis of political advantage to their favoured side. Such acts, not only breach their charter, but destroy the weak façade of integrity, and so they should go. Be it gaol or oblivion, I do not care, but for the crimes against QI, Oblivion sounds fair.

  96. JimD

    The padded cell candidate is so devoid of knowledge and dependent upon public provision it’s obviously incapable of looking out the fucking window to see if it’s a full moon.

    Both have been around about a decade, Newbie.
    Sure wasn’t wrong in identifying Scrambled as padded cell material. Its potential cellmate couldn’t possibly have been around for a decade going by its’ sub kindergarten level views and Scrambled seems confused or confusing as to whether there’s been a full moon for ten years or full moons began ten years ago.

  97. egg_

    JimD
    #1105436, posted on December 10, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    As you were, doubtful any will engage.

  98. calli

    You’re a good egg, Egg.

  99. JimD

    Looks like JC’s obs are correct; slow day at Bolta’s?
    If sane people dare enter an Asylum and you get the chance, best ask Gab that.

  100. egg_

    Ta calli, feelin’ a little battered nowadays, due to not much of an opposition/common enemy methinks. ;)

  101. JC

    Stop holding grudges from one day to the next, Jimmy D. I know it’s hard living in a cell block and being able to forget past perceived slights, but show some fortitude.

  102. calli

    Yep, I was right, it is stalking me.

    Creepy, but predictable.

  103. Bons

    One true frustration with the Party that we saw as saviours is that, in addition to being terrified of the IR myth, they were not prepared.
    Why are they now setting the TOR and membership of the myriad enquiries – that should have been done before the election, a la Kennett. They spent too much time being scared to state their case and not enough time clearly explaining their preferred end-points. They postponed every decision to after ’17 or after a review report – hopeless.
    I attended a lunch with prospective QLD Senators. I almost got thrown out for challenging their continual Work Choices boogey man self deception. Useless.

  104. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I’d say the verdict is now in.
    Do something about the ABC, do it quickly, sharply, and well.
    Don’t just sit there in staring into the headlights and let it run over us.
    Keep something for the old-timers in the rural areas, the kids, and the cultured.

  105. JimD

    Bons, This forum is about the degeneration of and the degenerates within the ABC . Albeit it may have denegrated into a tit for tat about how degenerated Scrambled and its’ potential padded cell mates are compared to others superior is none of my doing as I am young and naieve. Best you seek the council of Wise Owl Yobbo. (how the fuck do you spell naïve)

  106. JimD

    I know it’s hard living in a cell block
    Was very tempted to ask how you know given I don’t but I desist in the interest of not perpetuating a spurious debate about nothing that will lead nowhere.
    Yep, I was right, it is stalking me.

    Creepy, but predictable.

    The nonsesible pops up here there and everywhere spitting out bits of tripe along the way but when genuinely questioned about an apparent aberration in the nomenclature of a certain aircraft it supposedly was passengered in in New Guinea it goes to ground then sticks its’ head above the trench peeping over the shoulder of a seeming warrior and screeches STALKER. Used to think Gillard & Co were the lowest of the low.

  107. RexR

    Well, Looks like everyone’s pretty much in furious agreement here. Congratulations for keeping the thread going for so long. I think if you can keep it up for for another couple of hundred entries you’ll be totally convinced.

  108. cohenite

    Totally fucking convinced of what?

  109. CatAttack

    I watch almost nothing else apart from the ABC and SBS because of its programming of material which wouldn’t see the light of day on commercial networks because of their timidity. Having said that their news and current affairs is a conservative free zone. The trouble is left leaning friends genuinely don’t see it that way as it reflects their world view. Of course if the tables were turned I am sure they would suddenly regain their sight.

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