Dead man walking III

Tania Hird tells it like it is:

James took a 12-month suspension because he was threatened. The club was threatened; he was threatened. In the end the club said it was in the best interests of the club. We need to move on, which is what we did.

The important bit is this (emphasis added):

“Of course he’s being paid, that was the deal,” Ms Hird told a reporter from the Herald Sun. “Andrew Demetriou knew it; the AFL knew it.

We wouldn’t have taken a sanction without pay; we would have taken the AFL to the Supreme Court and they knew that. Demetriou knew that. In my opinion it’s time for the AFL to stop threatening my husband, it’s time for them to stop threatening the club, and it’s time for them to stop distorting the truth.”

So either Demitriou didn’t know what the deal was, and the AFL has a severe corporate governance problem, or Demitriou lied when he said he would be going to his grave knowing that James Hird wasn’t being paid, and the AFL has a severe corporate governance problem.

In the meantime the allegations of threats and suggestions that payments be made off the books imply a poor corporate culture if not actual criminality.

Update: The AFL have announced it will withhold cartel payments until Essendon comply with cartel rules.

THE AFL has sensationally announced it is holding back payments to Essendon until it explains why it continues to pay the salary of suspended coach James Hird.

The Herald Sun understands the amount being withheld is equal to Hird’s salary, believed to be about $84,000 a month.

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85 Responses to Dead man walking III

  1. Tom

    I think Tania, like everyone else, has had a gutful of this partisan union* hack and wants Fat Andy to announce his retirement before Christmas so we can spend the pre-season poring over the details of his multi-million-dollar golden parachute.
    *Ex-CEO AFLPA

  2. Badjack

    The Melbourne ‘top end’ business environment is way above Demetriou’s standing in that community.
    I don’t know if he was aware of the deal struck or not but it may well be that the 3 ’negotiators’ did not take him into their confidence due to his standing in the ‘top end’. Either way he is now a dead man walking when it comes to credibility and ability to do his job. If he has any self respect he will resign.

  3. Fitter of East Melbourne

    Gomez’s days of bullying are surely soon to end.
    Once he is separated from his pulpit of power, journalists will no longer be frightened to tell the stories.

  4. stackja

    poor corporate culture if not actual criminality

    Like other ALP/union stories we are now hearing about.

  5. Craig Mc

    Is Tania a witness to an agreement, or is this just what she’s been told by Jim?

    Don’t be so quick to believe everything you’re told Sinc. It’s not just the left that suffers confirmation bias.

  6. Craig Mc

    Tomorrow’s HS headline: James Hird did nothing wrong – James Hird’s mum.

  7. the sting

    Looks like Andrew is really dead meat now that Tania has him in her sights.

  8. Go Tiges

    Agree with Craig Mc. Why is he sending the missus out to fight his battles?
    If governance failure is enough for us to be calling for the head of Demetriou, then the same rule should apply to Hird? From Ziggy’s review:

    But a number of management processes normally associated with good governance failed during this period, and as a result, suspicions and concerns have arisen about the EFC.
    In particular the rapid diversification into exotic supplements, sharp increase in frequency of injections, the shift to treatment offsite in alternative medicine clinics, emergence of unfamiliar suppliers, marginalization of traditional medical staff etc combine to create a disturbing picture of a pharmacologically experimental environment never adequately controlled or challenged or documented within the Club in the period under review.
    Compliance rules existed but normal controls during an abnormal period were insufficient to check the behaviours of some people who may have contravened accepted procedures, and the CEO and the board were not informed.

    Is Hird not accountable for any of those failures in governance?

  9. I wish you’d stop referring to James Hird as a dead man walking, Sinc. We all know he is going to get rubbed out for life by ASADA for presiding over an organised PED injecting regime, but there’s no need to get ghoulish about it.

  10. Token

    LOL, ah yes, since February M0nty has made endless predictions that the Labor Party cronies are going to “win” this in the end.

    We’re still waiting.

  11. Rabz

    Breaking News: Eddie the Imbecile to conduct corporate governance audit of the ALPFL.

  12. Token

    If governance failure is enough for us to be calling for the head of Demetriou, then the same rule should apply to Hird?

    If the same rules applied to Hird he’d still be coach of Essendon.

    Unlike Fat Andy, Hird has already stepped down for a year as a result of this process.

  13. Token

    Gomez’s days of bullying are surely soon to end.
    Once he is separated from his pulpit of power, journalists will no longer be frightened to tell the stories.

    One can imagine the stories of his brutality and barbarity will be as numerous as they were about Rudd after Gillard did her stabby stabby routine in 2010.

  14. Bruce

    Why is he sending the missus out to fight his battles?

    Non disclosure clause in the agreement. No I have no evidence of such a thing, but tell me there isn’t one and I’ll tell you that bears in the woods use Portaloos.

  15. Struth

    It definitely is the Australian game.

  16. H B Bear

    Next week we speak to James Hird’s Mum on the common law principles of natural justice and recent developments in ASADA testing protocols.

  17. Megan

    I know my nickname at home is Little Miss No Patience At All Impatient but where are those ASADA charges that were happening next week, next month, soon? The number of journos, assorted hacks and variations on Monty that I have heard on radio, read in the paper or online that have told me the charges from ASADA are “imminent” would fill the MCG. Number correct as of 10:26 this morning? None.

  18. steve

    It is time to drop all penalties against Essendon as it has become obvious they were convicted by a kangaroo court. The fat hairy Greek has to go. I hear there will soon be jobs available in the top echelons of most of the Unions.

  19. Megan

    Unless, of course, the Macquarie has redefined the meaning of ‘imminent’ when I wasn’t paying attention.

  20. Tom

    where are those ASADA charges

    They’ll be along just as soon as the Fucktard Media Industrial Complex (who awarded themselves a Walkley union gong for walking around for six months with their heads up Fat Andy’s arse) get fallen GayQaeda luvvee Alan Joyce sacked from Qantas.

    Any day now … and if it doesn’t happen … they’ll always have Indi.

  21. Watching It Unfold

    Its amazing – I want to hear someone say –

    1. Andrew has our full support !
    2. We are calling for his resignation !

    throw FitzP’ on that bonfire as well…….

  22. steve

    Since there were no charges other than “bringing the game into disrepute” against Essendon, does this mean that the fat, hairy Greek will now be fined two million dollars by the AFL, be suspended for twelve months without pay (his rules, not mine), have all staff in his office pay lesser fines (unless he has a doctor working for him) and a hiring freeze for two years?
    Look over there, I see some chickens looking for a place to roost. Welcome home, birdies.

  23. Megan

    The fat hairy Greek has to go

    Seconded, thirded and fourthed. But, unfortunately, he’s operating on the ASADA calendar.

  24. Craig Mc

    I have to say this topic on the Cat makes BigFooty look like a level-headed, fact-based discussion by comparison.

  25. Nanuestalker

    Tania Hird is letting the AFL & Fat Andy know that if they continue with accusing Hird of breaching the agreement, expect to get your ass sued. She as a lawyer, probably regrets allowing Burnside to represent her husband and not holding out like Dr. Reid. I suspect that she’d love for this to go to court.

  26. She as a lawyer, probably regrets allowing Burnside to represent her husband and not holding out like Dr. Reid.

    A commercial property lawyer. If this was The Block, she’d be a gun.

  27. Sinclair Davidson

    Craig Mc – I seem to remember some unknown, unidentified “Mum” of a 21-year old Essendon player phoning Triple-M with some sob story.

  28. Megan: ASADA is taking its sweet time, no doubt about it, but that is only because they are stepping softly in a minefield of legal dangers, with lawyers on many sides working against them. The evidence is there, it’s just a matter of procedure now. The laws to compel Dank to be interviewed are new, so they have to be very careful to dot all the is and cross all the ts, lest the case not be watertight.

    Roy Masters mentioned this in his regular anti-AFL rant yesterday:

    ASADA has enough evidence on Essendon now to decide to issue infraction notices and is merely waiting to see if there is any cross-fertilisation with evidence from the NRL enquiry.

  29. Go Tiges

    I have to say this topic on the Cat makes BigFooty look like a level-headed, fact-based discussion by comparison.

    Agree. It’s like being in the outer at the old windy hill ground. Lots of noise, and not a high level of tolerance for the views of others.

  30. Tom

    To whom it may concern: ASADA is pleased to announced it has retained Mr Donut Monster, QC, to represent it in soon-to-be-listed cases (ASADA versus The Public Interest) in the Supreme Courts of Victoria and NSW. Now we’re feeling bullet-proof — oh yeah!

  31. Token

    Agree. It’s like being in the outer at the old windy hill ground. Lots of noise, and not a high level of tolerance for the views of others.

    ??? You made a comment about governance which I countered with some facts, is that the low level of tolerance you refer to ???

  32. Tom

    I seem to remember some unknown, unidentified “Mum” of a 21-year old Essendon player phoning Triple-M with some sob story.

    Isn’t it funny the sobbing female, who Fat Andy used later that day to launch his legal first strike against Hird, using the rush of anti-Hird public sentiment, has never come forward or been tracked down by the media?

    Player’s mother. Yeah. 50/1. Fine Cotton.

  33. Rabz

    She as a lawyer, probably regrets allowing Burnside to represent her husband and not holding out like Dr. Reid.

    For the last frigging time, Hird did not ‘choose’ to be represented by that deadshit burnside.

    Hird engaged one of the top solicitors in country to represent him, that deadshit burnside was merely the next barrasite off the ‘cab rank’ so to speak.

    Hird’s enagement of Amendola was one of the reasons why the ALPFL was so quick (and desperate) to have the matter taken out of court.

  34. Nanuestalker

    A commercial property lawyer. If this was The Block, she’d be a gun

    Yes m0ron she had a real job. Try getting one.
    The point is that she should have known better than to let a clown like Burnside represent her husband even though it wasn’t her field. The whole legal fraternity knows it. The question now is whether or not the AFL has the balls to have the agreement set aside and have the whole affair brought before the courts.

  35. Rabz

    Oh dear. Still haven’t read my comment, I see.

  36. Megan

    Note to self: Add Roy Masters to MCG crowd rabbiting on about ASADA issuing infraction notices. Soon. Sooner. Soonest. Or something.

  37. Megan

    I’m certainly tolerant of differing views, but I do like to see them supported by something more than a whole lot of journalistic hot air, AFL holier-than-thou moralising and the trashing of reputations by innuendo, intimidation and threat.

  38. Nanuestalker

    You lost me with your “cab rank” comment. Any clerk could have found a better alternative on their list.

  39. Go Tiges

    ??? You made a comment about governance which I countered with some facts, is that the low level of tolerance you refer to ???

    No. I was using a simile. Describing the atmosphere or the vibe if you like from reading through the posts of Dead Man Walking Episodes, I, II and now III. Which reminded me of being at Windy Hill in the old days. No reasoning with the bombers supporters then or now it seems. Sense of humour bypass issued with every membership. By the way I agree that Demetriou has made some terrible judgements in relation to this and he should go. But I think your statement was more opinion than fact.

  40. Token

    Thanks Go Tiges.

    Is it my opinion that Hird has stepped from coaching for a year, or is that a fact?

    Is it my opinion that Demetriou has not being sanctioned for making statement which are either deliberately misleading or made through incompetence, or is that a fact?

  41. Up The Workers!

    This whole confected scam about drugs, Essendon, James Hird, etc., was just another “Look over there!” exercise concocted by the disgraceful A.L.P. mis-government of Juliar Gillard, aided and abetted by the notorious A.L.P. supporter, Andrew Demetriou.

    In the circumstances, it is interesting that the 18 letters in the name: “JULIA EILEEN GILLARD”, are an anagram for: “JAILED: ILLEGAL URINE”.

    Spooky, isn’t it!

  42. Sinclair Davidson

    By the way I agree that Demetriou has made some terrible judgements in relation to this and he should go.

    So you’re just making conversation?

  43. steve

    “” No reasoning with the bombers supporters then or now it seems.”

    You want to reason with us, fine. Try having a fair trial without a foregone conclusion. Then we will talk reason. Until then, you are just taking your position because you don’t like Essendon. Why do I say that? Because you seem to be able to ignore the lying and leaking to the press by the hairy, fat Greek who was judge, jury and executioner. There have been no charges upheld against any individual, how do you explain that? Just telling Essendon supporters to lie back and think of England is ridiculous, but maybe that is the angle you were aiming for.

  44. Megan

    No reasoning with the bombers supporters then or now it seems

    I am not, nor ever have been, an Essendon supporter. As an ex-Fitzroy supporter however, I do remember which despicable Punt Road football club scuttled the merger which would have kept us in Melbourne. I hope the karma that earned keeps them from a premiership until hell freezes over. Been working well so far.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    Why is he sending the missus out to fight his battles?

    Non disclosure clause in the agreement. No I have no evidence of such a thing, but tell me there isn’t one and I’ll tell you that bears in the woods use Portaloos.

    Correct Bruce.
    There will be Non-disclosure and non-disparagement clauses in the settlement.
    Mrs Hird would not be a signatory to those so can speak her mind.

  46. Enough. Back in March I created a one-off blog called the “ASADA Gestapo Bullshit” blog because the whole thing stunk enough to knock flies off a shit truck at 100 yards. I was reliably and repeatedly informed that it was the real deal and only a matter of time.

    Well, i called bullshit then, and I’m calling bullshit now. It was a case of put up or shut up, yet it’s still ‘imminent’. Demitrou is either lying or as dumb as a post. I always assumed Hird was being paid, because that would be the only way for the AFL to shut him up. At the time I thought Hird had sold out, but of course I’m not in his shoes. This is totally unacceptable and Demitrou must resign. The whole things stinks to high heaven.

    Nothing has changed, just like ASADA’s imminent charges. Put up or shut up, ya bastards!

  47. Go Tiges

    Wow, it is just like the outer at windy hill.
    Token: Your original comment against mine was –

    If the same rules applied to Hird he’d still be coach of Essendon.

    My point was if poor governance is the standard, then they are both guilty and should both be gone from their jobs.
    Professor Sinclair: Well Yes and No. Yes, to the extent that a blog is a conversation. No in the sense I was trying to insert some balance.
    Steve: Believe it or not, my dear old mum barracked for Essendon her entire life and so I have a soft spot for the club and have not adopted a position based on dislikes. I have taken a position based on Ziggys internal review and the statements by the Captain of the club. I know the Professor may jump in here and tell me Gerard Wakely exonerated Watson on AFL 360, but I’m not sure he’s the authority. Hird clearly had/has a case to answer. No amount of bleating about Demetriou will change that.
    Megan: I feel sorry for you. May your Karma be extended to every other AFL club now since they all voted to enforce the sanctions against the bombers. BTW, me and every person that I know who grew up in Melbourne was sorry to see Fitzroy go.

  48. Megan

    May your Karma be extended to every other AFL club now since they all voted to enforce the sanctions against the bombers

    No doubt the 10 or 11 clubs mentioned in the AFL report as having poorly governed supplements programs, and who did not bother to self report, are relieved that with their vote they were able to make Essendon the sacrificial lamb.

  49. Megan

    Demitrou is either lying or as dumb as a post.

    These are not mutually exclusive positions for Fat Andy, BW.

  50. steve

    @Gotiges
    Yeah, Ziggy found there was bad governance at the club. OK, I’ll wear that.
    What do you call what the fat hairy Greek has done over the last twelve months. Warning, when he shouldn’t have, leaking when he shouldn’t have, giving no chance for a defence when he should have and changing his story every other week while protected by sycophants led by Wislon, Smith and the Comb Over Kid, Bartlett.
    Wouldn’t you call that bad governance?
    The one thing you do not understand is – if there was evidence, they would have been charged by ASADA. Instead they were bullied and threatened by the AFL and the 17 presidents (3 of whom are TV stars, for God’s sake) into taking one for the team for some catch all offences.
    Eleven other teams have admitted to having unsupervised supplement schemes. Investigation, no. Bad Governance at the least, yes.
    Verily, may you insert and rotate and we are taking Hardwick back! Providing balance, my arse.

  51. Allan

    Shifty deals by left wing multi millionaire AFL hyprocrites happen too often – and when they get found out they get vicious. Time for a new board and CEO.

    Unfortunately too many sports commentators are beholding to the AFL – the AFL knew of the Essendon situation up to 6 months before the enquiry was called. What did the AFL know, what did they do, when did they know it?

    Up to 12 clubs had control problems with their sports additive regimes (AFL report). Essendon got done for poor governence etc – what about the others? And who are the others – no consistency or transparency?

    Remember the salary cap violations in the 80′s and 90′s? AFL did a deal, let everyone off and started again.

    Remember the extra salary cap allowances to Brisbane and Sydney? 5 premierships under this ruling.

    If the game itself was not so good, you could be excused for saing “stuff the lot of them”.

  52. Tiny Dancer

    The evidence is there, it’s just a matter of procedure now.

    Becuase you’d know mOron, eating those doughnuts and that.

  53. Go Tiges

    Steve, You can’t have Hardwick back. He’s been excellent for us. Pleased to see we’ve just extended him.
    I did say earlier and in other posts on earlier threads that the AFL has behaved badly towards Essendon, and Demetriou should take the fall for that. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the argument that 11 other clubs have made admissions. It’s a bit like getting a speeding ticket and arguing with the policeman that the Mercedes that went past you just before was going a lot faster. The cop doesn’t care. He caught you and that’s all that matters. My own personal view is that the sanctions against the bombers were too harsh. I wonder if they would have been less harsh had Hird stood aside earlier, which was his first instinct. Maybe that’s why Evans couldn’t go on. He couldn’t convince Hird to do what might be best for the club.

  54. .

    Don’t worry Megan Richmond haven’t a chance in winning for decades.

  55. Sinclair Davidson

    Don’t be nasty – we’d all dearly love to see a Tigers grand final victory.

    Heh – that I should live so long. :)

  56. the sting

    Time for Demetriou to be suspended without pay.

  57. Gab

    Neil Mitchell on 3AW this morning was just appalled that Hird’s wife spoke to the media. What was the point, he asked and why is she now telling everyone Hird was being paid by the AFL? It was all very pointless as far as he was concerned.

  58. steve

    Ah, the old “you are only wrong if you get caught” argument

  59. Infidel Tiger

    Don’t be nasty – we’d all dearly love to see a Tigers grand final victory.

    Heh – that I should live so long. :)

    2014 is surely our year.

  60. stackja

    Neil Mitchell on 3AW this morning was just appalled that Hird’s wife spoke to the media.

    Neil Mitchell is appalling.

  61. Gab

    Yes he is. I’ve not had the Neil Mitchell experience before. Can’t say I was impressed. He’s a little demented in his thinking really.

  62. Go Tiges

    Don’t worry Megan Richmond haven’t a chance in winning for decades.

    Don’t be nasty – we’d all dearly love to see a Tigers grand final victory.
    Heh – that I should live so long. :)

    Ha ha very funny dot. Very droll Professor. And there I was only a few short hours ago accusing Essendon supporters of having had a sense of humour bypass. I withdraw that comment unreservedly.
    For info, Sportsbet currently has Essendon and Richmond both at 18:1 for the 2014 flag. Tom Waterhouse 14 and 17 for Rich and Ess respectively and the TAB 13 and 21.

  63. Sinclair Davidson

    As long as we beat Collingwood at the ANZAC day game I’m happy.

  64. sdfc

    Richmond being beaten by ninth in an elimination final was piss funny.

  65. Gab

    No need to twist the knife, Sinclair; the wound still hurts.

  66. Megan

    Better hope that Hardwick doesn’t find himself retrospectively implicated in the Essendon supplements program. Since he once played there and all. ASADA are no doubt on the investigative case there as well and an infraction notice is ‘imminent’.

  67. steve

    …..word is Hardwick is guilty. The fat hairy Greek told Caro, who told Smithy, who told me. They should nail his arse.

  68. Pickles

    All this pus being spilt about a game that’s played and followed by people who think it’s OK to get a point for missing. Reward for failure. Don’t deserve to survive.

  69. Megan

    Stack, you are being far too generous in using appalling to describe Mitchell, N.

  70. rafiki

    “Demitriou didn’t know what the deal was, and the AFL has a severe corporate governance problem”. Yes, this is likely to be the reason, but why conflate Demitriou with the government of the AFL? There are plenty of other big players, and highly qualified support. That support – which one assumes includes lawyers – did not read the agreement closely enough and someone advised him that Essendon had agreed not to pay Hird. Or maybe it is that someone made why I think has been called a clerical error or some such. Demitriou is entitled to rely on his lawyers and staff. Then we have the behaviour of Fitzpatrick. he took Demitriou out of the loop and bears significant responsibility. I am not excusing Demitriou, and as the chief executive he has responsibility for those whose actions he can control. But he is not the only – and possibly not the major – villain in this piece.

  71. Sinclair Davidson

    rafiki – as a practical matter you’re right of course. But he is the CEO and has been quite adamant about what happened.

  72. rafiki

    1. “fat hairy Greek ” references are just puerile.
    2. Monty has made some good points, in particular about ASADA and what it might turn up – from say Stephen Dank – now that it has coercive powers. (I have grave concerns that such powers are quite commonly given to inquisitorial bodies, but that does not affect Monty’s point).

  73. jupes

    Hird engaged one of the top solicitors in country to represent him, that deadshit burnside was merely the next barrasite off the ‘cab rank’ so to speak.

    If that was the case then Hird should have sacked his solicitor.

  74. rafiki

    Yes Sinclair, he was. Which is one reason I think he’s not lying. If Andrew goes, then several others should go too, including Fitztpatrick. But we know how this kind of world works. Andrew is the bunny, and I have some sympathy for him. (I should also declare that I taught him when he was a student at La Trobe University, and found him a pleasant young man whose on-field success had not given him a big head. That will be held against me on more than one count, but there we are.)

  75. jupes

    But he is not the only – and possibly not the major – villain in this piece.

    No. Demitriou is the major villain by a long shot. When he stood next to Gillard’s ministers and slandered his sport, he brought the game into more disrepute than any person in history. Anything he has done since them just adds insult to injury.

  76. JC

    Rafki

    How do you excuse the demo’s Sgt. Schultz assertion that he knew nothing about the payment?

  77. steve

    The fat, hairy Greek started this whole thing by standing next to Labor hacks on a stage in Canberra on the “blackest day in Australian sport” and he continued to try to influence the case by leaking information to his suckling tribe and making unproven accusations himself in the media all while the Essendon people said nothing due to promises made to ASADA’s investigators. His mishandling of the situation dragged others in when they tried to protect him. Essendon are guilty of bad governance, but no more and no less than any other club. There have been many victims that have been tried and convicted by a corrupt system in a mismanaged organisation. The punishment far outweighed the crime and the penalties should be withdrawn. FitzPatrick, ASADA, the AFL, seventeen club presidents and the media all have cases to answer as well as the demented haters that are the supporters of the other seventeen clubs.

    Not a single positive drug test, not a single conviction. No chance to mount a defense. Justice has not been seen to be done.

  78. sdfc

    The club doctor warned them they were crossing the line. Dumbarses.

  79. Pickles

    And on it goes. At the time I thought that it was just another of the national institutions the ALP had to destroy and they got ministers to help. ALF people need to do things to save their joke sport and the inward looking culture surrounding it: 1) cut down the outside posts 2) call me.

  80. rafiki

    JC: my point is not to ‘excuse’ him (for I do say that he is responsible as the chief executive). Rather, it seems that the explanation (and I am sure I read this in the OZ) is that by some error or oversight the agreement did not include a clause that reflected an oral agreement that Hird was not to be paid. My guess is that this error is not attributable to any default on Demitriou’s part, but to the lawyers and assistants who drew up the agreement and read it several times. Of course, Andrew should have taken the agreement away to a quiet place and read it closely too, but this degree of default does not require him to fall on his sword.

    As for his role in the ‘blackest day’ event, it was the stupid Labor figures who controlled this. Now that ASADA has Star Chamber powers, we may yet see some real action. (And JC, while you may consider that the fact that this is Monty’s point might prima facie mean that it is wrong, you must allow that a stopped clock gives an accurate reading twice a day.)

  81. Docket62

    The club doctor warned them they were crossing the line. Dumbarses.

    And clearly as a complete halfwit you also didn’t note that this email appeared miraculously in time to vindicate the good doctor. Now If it’s creative genius well good for him, after all it was never tested in court was it?

    No Essendon player was injected with a substance at the time banned by ASADA. That’s their problem. They approved of the peptide and then changed their minds ‘after the fact’..

    The scam was nothing more than a distraction designed by labour at the time to deflect the heat on the then PM from questions relating to her criminal acts (allegedly- refer Michael Smith news). It was effective, but has produced? Nothing. Hot air, fines for… Well nothing really, just. Hot air .

    Demetriou deserves what he is going to get and more. And I for one would happily be there to light the bonfire!

  82. sdfc

    And clearly as a complete halfwit you also didn’t note that this email appeared miraculously in time to vindicate the good doctor.

    I here the email was hidden in the grassy knoll.

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