Open Forum: December 14, 2013

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  1. Does.not.compute.-.alledged.Japanese.suicide.rate.must.be.false.

    What a stupid comment.

    Yes, suicide rates can be high in countries without guns being involved.

    Also, in at least some countries where suicide by gun is a common means, restricting guns has been shown to reduce suicides.

    (There was a Slate article about this just this last week.)

  2. Does.not.compute.-.alledged.Japanese.suicide.rate.must.be.false.
    What a stupid comment.
    Yes, suicide rates can be high in countries without guns being involved.
    Also, in at least some countries where suicide by gun is a common means, restricting guns has been shown to reduce suicides.

    There is nothing stupider than a believer in gun control. It should be legal to hunt them.

    Only the ignorant support gun control.

  3. nic

    I.T, something tells me you had an after school snack go wrong

  4. Military history buff snippet: Ginger Lacey Fighter Pilot, by Richard Townshend Bickers, 1962. (1998 reprint) page 138:

    until now Lacey had not been interested in a commission. There was little difference in staus between officers and N.C.O. pilots and life in a Sergeants’ Mess was comfortable. But.. he remembered that holders ofthe D.F.M. are entitled to a cash bounty of Twenty Pounds on being discharged from the Service.
    In order to become an officer, he would have to be formally discharged an an airmand and re-enter the R.A.F. with a Commission. This decided him
    .

  5. Tom

    Sorry. I meant to say: Root screwed.

  6. Gab

    Yeah, no, still have no idea what you’re cussing about.

  7. calli

    Nice tautology, Tom. Twice.

  8. Gab, just to be on the safe side, never accept a steamed carrot when eating at Tom’s house.

  9. Tom

    JE Root c †Haddin b Watson 4. Eng 3/77.

  10. Gab

    Ahhhhhhh. A rugby player. I understand now.

  11. By the way, I had left over paella for lunch today. It reheats well in the microwave.

  12. By the way, I had left over paella for lunch today. It reheats well in the microwave.

    Paella: “Rice” in English.

  13. Tom

    You’ll always have your gift for air navigation, Gab.

  14. Gab

    I know, right? Thanks, Tom.

  15. Tiny Dancer

    Daily life declares Daily life columnist Clementine “Your vagina is not a car” Ford as one of their women of the year. You know it makes sense.

  16. Gab, shouldn’t you have a quiet word to CL about his views re women in politics? (By which I mean – a very loud word?)

  17. Gab

    I’ll answer your question when you answer my question above, SFB.

  18. C.L.

    Campbell Newman to crack down on illegal friendships …

    Detective Inspector Brendan Smith:

    He said police were also clamping down on friends of bikies.

    It cannot be socially acceptable to be a friend of a bikie,” he said.

    “You have to learn it is not on in Queensland.”

  19. Tracey

    Ahhhhhhh. A rugby player. I understand now.

    That was funny.

  20. Morgan: ALP 52.5 (+1) Coalition 47.5 (-1).

    Coalition primary down to 40.5%.

    The unprecedented freefall continues for the worst-starting Australian federal government in history.

  21. stackja

    “Well, on the evidence there, Root isn’t a terribly good judge of when he is out!” They’re all out sooner or later, John. Just a question of when

    Johnson mo’s down another, England three down.

  22. Everyone is so busy with holiday stuff, I have my doubts the “oh no! the Budget debt is worse than we thought (after we helped increase it)” new tomorrow will help Abbott much.

  23. JC

    With an upgrade in global GDP next year, this sector is going to absoltuely fly. This sector alone could make the years trading. It’s so freaking volatile though I may be utilizing the suicide hotline.

    Maritime Industries
    Upgrading Industry to In-Line
    With global GDP on the mend and shipping capacitymuted, we see improved fundamentals across most
    shipping segments. Pockets of weakness exist, but on balance, we see upside in rates and values, led
    by dry bulk and LPG segments. Top Picks: SB, DSX, SBLK, VLCCF, GLNG, ASC, CMRE.
    Dry Bulk:

    We expect dry bulk to outperform other shipping segments as tonnage dem and is set to exceed vessel supply in 2014 for the first time since 2008, driven by i) slower fleet growth, ii) increased Chinese steel production, iii) new low cost seaborne iron ore supply, and iv) reduced average speed as fuel prices are high. Supply growth should fall until 2015, after which it may accelerate. We are upgrading DSX and VLCCF to OW, moving SB to OW, and initiating coverage of SBLK at OW (see our separate note, published
    today, for details on these changes).
    Crude Tankers:
    Relatively less upside as non-OPEC short-haul production will displace long-haul Middle East crude through 2015e, although the increased importance of emerging cross-trades suggests the worst is past. Crude fleet likely to grow only 1.5-2.0% in 2014 and 2015 allowing rates to mover modestly higher albeit from very depressed levels. Trading patterns might benefit VLCC and Aframax over Suezmax tankers, but substitution will likely keep rates highly correlated. Demand should accelerate with increased call on OPEC from 201 6, but recent ordering of a large number of VLCCs threatens any long-term optimism.
    Product Tankers:

    We see steadily improving fundamentals on dislocation between refining capacity and products
    demand, but substitution suggests this segment will never fully decouple from weak crude oil tanker fundamentals.
    Containers:
    Recovery as European GDP should help support improved global volume growth, but 7-8% capacity growth in 2014 suggests that containership will remain under pressure for another year. We therefore prefer exposure to companies with solid contracts and ability to take advantage the weakness to expand their fleet.
    Gas Shipping:
    LNG to remain soft through 2015 on limited new cargo availability & shipping supply growth. LPG to stay
    strong for 2 years before weakening for opposite reasons.
    MS Segment Outlook
    Sector:
    Medium-term
    Long-term
    Dry bulk carriers
    Strong Firm
    Crude tankers
    Weak Neutral
    Products tankers
    Firm Firm
    Containerships
    Weak Strong
    LNG carriers
    Neutral Strong
    LPG carriers
    Strong Neutral

    MORGAN STANLEY RESEARCH
    December 13, 2013
    Maritime Industries
    Investment Case
    Dry Bulk Shipping
    Dry bulk fundamentals have been improving in 2013 and look even more attractive for 2014-15. We have increased conviction in the dry bulk segment and adjusted our shipping rate forecasts upward . During 4Q13, the Baltic Dry Index has risen above 2,000 points for the first time since 2011, but remains over 80% below its 2008 peek. We expect rates to rise ~30-40% from current levels, driving earnings and vessel values higher. We therefore see significant upside in dry bulk stocks going forward, as these are set up to benefit from strong fundamentals in the next two years. Rates are expected to ramp as demand is set to outpace supply in 2014 and then peak in 2015. In 2014, rates are set to be driven higher by slowing fleet growth paired with additions in ton-mile demand through new low cost seaborne iron ore
    export capacity in Australia and Brazil. Growing Chinese steel production will increasingly be serviced by seaborne iron ore imports, as falling domestic iron ore production is replaced. We expect ton-mile demand to grow by 6.0-6.5% in 2014 against fleet growth of ~5% (Ex. 1). Rates will be driven up further by
    fleet utilization moving higher as the fleet continues to operate at reduced speeds due to high fuel prices

    (Ex. 3). Capesize rates will likely remain highly volatile, due to flow and ebb of Chinese iron ore imports during periods of destocking and restocking. However, we expect Capesize rates to average $26kpd in 2014, while Panamax rates should increase to $14kpd, equivalent to a BDI level of 1,760 points. Average rates should then peak in 2015 at $34kpd for Capesize and $18kpd for Panamax corresponding to the BDI at 2,280 points, as growth in the supply of tonnage falls to ~4%. Although shipping demand growth is set to stay above supply growth in 2015, it should moderate to ~5.5% growth, as Chinese steel making capacity cuts are expected in 2H14. We therefore expect the positive trend in rates to reverse during 2016, although rates should stay at healthy levels due to iron ore export capacity coming online and Chinese domestic ore production falling furthe

  24. calli

    Johnson mo’s down another, England three down.

    Did he mow them or did he mo them? :)

  25. Gee. Everyone wants to talk about anything but the failed Abbott government.

  26. JC

    The unprecedented freefall continues for the worst-starting Australian federal government in history.

    No, you fat idiot, the worst polling start was recorded by the Lying slapper. If you think you’re right, go hit the betting market donut boy, or fuck off.

  27. JC

    Gee. Everyone wants to talk about anything but the failed Abbott government.

    Odds please, bet amount and will you escrow with Sinc? Grow an set, Steptford. (Unfortunately, fatboy can’t see his).

  28. Token

    Looks like McTavish’s talking points have been sent to the astroturf tweeters.

    Just in for the news bulletins too. What an amazing coincidence.

    Maley, Grattan, Jabba now know what they are allowed to think.

  29. Token

    Hey M0nty, you still trying on that crap that Obamacare is a success?

  30. JC

    Wodge Watch

    Yep, Wodge is for gay marriage. 23.35 months ago this appalling moron would have been arguing the opposite.

    @Moz of Yarramulla Regardless of the PM or anyone else’s view nobody has the right to demand that others kowtow to an opinion.

    Fatboy’s there too sniveling away like nothing I’ve seen.

    m0nty

    I get Gillard’s reasoning as to her own views. She formed a view early on that marriage was not something she believed in. Fair enough.

    What I don’t understand is her reasoning in imposing her belief on the rest of Australia. She acknowledges that her reasoning is “different” to most, yet she weaved it into the policy platform of the government. Where is democracy in all this? Two thirds of the population want SSM, what gives her the right to deny democracy? That is what remains unexplained, at least from the above quote.

    Hey Fatboy, I can’t find the comment I saw earlier when you were sniveling to the prof like a dog wanting his biscuit. Can you please post it here as it’s funny.

  31. jumpnmcar

    Abbott brings the troops home.
    Good for them.

  32. Token

    Michael Smith asks a pertinent questions about RSL chef Wilson’s gun legal team:

    All parties agreed and there you go, Wilson nicely delayed everything Again until the 20th. The appeal will then be heard, and if his honour can’t decide on the 20th, then what?

    Bottom line, Wilson’s legal team are:
    a. Incompetent, or

    b. Playing for time, or

    c. Don’t see a big juicy profit in it so can’t be fagged doing a proper job, or

    d. All of the above.

    Who the hell is paying for all this dodging and weaving?

  33. Tiny Dancer

    A second erection for mOron. And over a poll. He hated them before September. Two erections this year. Well done. There is more to life than doughnuts after all.

  34. Tony Abbott and his family are off to Europe for Christmas, I saw this morning.

    Any hope this can be painted as a “let them eat cake” image, I wonder?

  35. JC

    Any hope this can be painted as a “let them eat cake” image, I wonder?

    Fatboy wouldn’t mind. He loves cake.

  36. C.L.

    … Wodge is for gay marriage …

    Oh Lord, no. Wodge has become a gay warrior now?

  37. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Arapahoe School Shooting Update

    Authorities are dramatically revising the response time of law enforcement officers to the Arapahoe High School shooting on Friday.

    Originally, it was claimed by multiple outlets that responding law enforcement agencies took 14 minutes to arrive at the school, and that the shooter was not located until 30 minutes into the event. As we noted based on this information, this proves that schools need armed staffers and/or faculty on campus because it takes far too long for outside law enforcement agencies to respond to stop an active shooter.

    It now appears that our original thesis was confirmed because there was an armed officer on campus who was the reason the shooter was stopped after only shooting one student.

    They are now stating that the entire incident was over in just 80 seconds because there was an armed sheriff’s deputy on staff who was alerted over the school’s radio system, who cornered the shooter in the library. It now appears that once the shooter heard the deputy identify himself as a law enforcement agent, he committed suicide.

    Tell me again, lefties, how having armed personnel present is ALWAYS a bad thing and will never work?

    I need a laugh.

  38. candy

    Any hope this can be painted as a “let them eat cake” image, I wonder?

    I never took you to be a snob, Steve.

  39. calli

    Joan Fontaine as the girl with the ‘ lovely and unusual’ name in Rebecca, with the evil Mrs Danvers

  40. Tel

    Any hope this can be painted as a “let them eat cake” image, I wonder?

    Paint it any way you like, no one cares but yourself.

  41. candy

    The Abbotts have a daughter in France I think, who works there, and they go there of course to see her.
    A very pretty girl, (well they’re all pretty actually).

  42. Now that Abbott is out of the country, his numbers might improve.

  43. Tony Abbott and his family are off to Europe for Christmas, I saw this morning.

    Any hope this can be painted as a “let them eat cake” image, I wonder?

    Of course, you would wonder that.

  44. JC

    Fatboy
    Care to explain why you’re on your best behavior at JQ’s site, particularly after he booted you, yet you attack the thread owners here with abuse. You sniveling fat oaf.

  45. Meanwhile, disgraced failed pollster Rasmussen reports that Republicans think Ted Cruz is the second most influential person in the world, behind the pope. You don’t have to be dumb to vote Republican, but it sure helps.

  46. Tell me again, lefties, how having armed personnel present is ALWAYS a bad thing and will never work?

    Did it prevent the shootings? No.

    Does it help disprove wingnut theories that shooters target places that don’t have guns? Yes.

    Do parents in Australia ever spend time worrying that angry past or present students will vent anger by shooting people at school – no; or at least, recent history tells them they have no reason to worry about that.

    Were the gun legally purchased by the attempted killer – yes.

    Does this show that legal guns owned by (formerly) law abiding citizens are deadly in the US? – yes.

    The number of children (under 12) killed by guns in the US both accidentally and deliberately in the US over the last 12 months – at least 194.

  47. JC

    Oh Lord, no. Wodge has become a gay warrior now?

    Can you believe it? This is the same Wodge you infested this and Jo Nova’s site with short stupid sentences always in support of rightwing views. The very same wodge.

    It’s the same abominable idiot who suggested whale watching, capturing and eating whale meat could be made into a big tourist attraction on the seas.

  48. ReachTel 2PP: ALP 52, Coalition 48.

    Reachtel primary votes: ALP 40, Coalition 41.

    First time there’s a 4 in front of ALP’s primary vote in recent memory, as I predicted a few days ago.

  49. JC

    Moderator

    What is the point of Stepford and fatboy posting here? Is there one?

  50. Election now, right Monty?

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

  51. He hasn’t left yet, monty. Later this week. And he’s only there for a week.

    I wonder if he’ll wave to the President as he flies over Indonesia.

  52. jumpnmcar

    From wiki.

    Pre-religious life
    Before joining the Jesuits, Bergoglio worked as a bar bouncer, as a janitor sweeping floors, and also ran tests in a chemical laboratory

    Gotta be a joke.

  53. JC, we an ornament to the open threads. Weekend ones without us are just woeful.

  54. Election now, right Monty?

    a) there will most likely be a WA Senate election, in which the Libs would probably lose a seat;
    b) there won’t be a DD, so welcome to your new overlord Clive “Kodos” Palmer.

  55. JC

    Well actually you’re both a steaming pile of shit, Stepford. You’re both trolling. Fatboy is now trolling far more than before he got married and spiteful.

  56. Well actually you’re both a steaming pile of shit, Stepford.

    I prefer to say that we add flavour and atmosphere…

  57. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    SATP:

    There is nothing stupider than a believer in gun control. It should be legal to hunt them.

    You mean is isn’t?

    :-$

    Oops….

  58. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Dang! :$

  59. I’m relaxed about all of this Monty. The schadenfreude I enjoy comes from knowing how much it drives you batshit insane.

    Merry Christmas, young man.

  60. JC

    so welcome to your new overlord Clive “Kodos” Palmer.

    On balance he’s better than him or her, fatboy.

  61. What is the point of Stepford and fatboy posting here? Is there one?

    I believe last time Sinc answered that one, it was along the lines of “he hasn’t suffered enough”. So apparently I’m suffering now, watching all you lot have your delusions shatter into pieces. Glorious, enjoyable suffering. My delicious cup of suffering runneth over.

  62. Tony Abbott tomorrow: “There are tough times ahead after the budget disaster that Labor has left us in. There is no doubt there will have to severe spending cuts, and some of them are not going to be popular.

    But we all have to do our bit, though, for the good of the nation.

    And I’m now off to France for a week. See ya.”

    Works for me.

  63. JC

    The schadenfreude I enjoy comes from knowing how much it drives you batshit insane.

    He’s been gradually flipping out a few months before the election and since then has gone full retard.

  64. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Thanks shitfer, your response is so stupid that it gave me the laughter I needed.

  65. JC

    I believe last time Sinc answered that one, it was along the lines of “he hasn’t suffered enough”. So apparently I’m suffering now, watching all you lot have your delusions shatter into pieces. Glorious, enjoyable suffering. My delicious cup of suffering runneth over.

    Monster, believe me when I say this. You’re aware by now how lowly I think of you in so, so many ways. However, for your own good you really need to give up the internet, or at least blogging because I think it’s sending you mad. You’ll end up on gardening duties at a funny farm at this rate.

  66. From the Morgan press release:

    “It is important to note that the rise in ALP support has come entirely from women with women now heavily favouring the ALP (58%, up 4%) over the L-NP (42%, down 4%) on a two-party preferred basis however men still favour the L-NP (53%, up 1.5%) over the ALP (47%, down 1.5%).

  67. twostix

    Fatboy is now trolling far more than before he got married and spiteful.

    It’s all he’s allowed to do now.

  68. LOL JC. To quote a great man: you haven’t suffered enough.

  69. candy

    Those 2 boys are just winding you up, jc.

  70. JC

    They’re not winding anyone up, Candy. There’s really no point for them to be here. Fatboy in particular as I think he’s slowly going mad

  71. Gab

    and here’s me thinking JC is the one winding up those two boys. Stop taunting them so much, JC.

  72. candy

    He’s just gorging on the latest poll, jc. It’s a novelty.

  73. Tom

    Moderator
    What is the point of Stepford and fatboy posting here? Is there one?

    The moderator apparently likes the fact that the Cat is a troll sewer and subscribes to the leftist idea that anything that is popular is inherently defective. Hundreds of readers, including many new readers, turn away when they see the site constantly bombarded by the scum of the middle class, who are a protected species here, and traffic suffers.

    Motelier
    #1112343, posted on December 16, 2013 at 10:26 am

    Ladies and Gentleman,

    it seems this is a great place for discussion and humour! especially when the trolls are missing. a couple of weeks I mentioned in an open thread when I noticed that there were no trolls around.

    The threads are so much better now that TonyN has been flushed and Sunchine seem to have eclipsed.

    Now for the rest of the troll relay. They be working so much harded now that they comrades are missing. We should give them a present for Christmas. I propose a holiday for the trolls.

    Ignore them now.

    Rant finished.
    Back to normal business.

  74. Tracey

    I think/hope Sinc is ‘doing them slowly’.

  75. Tiny Dancer

    When’s Custer retaking the speakers chair? Is Peter Slipper the Oz cricket captain? When’s Gillard’s poll bounce doughball? Can you help out mOron?

  76. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    JC:

    Fatboy in particular as I think he’s slowly going mad

    Ummm….

    So? You object to free entertainment?

  77. nic

    And I’m now off to France for a week. See ya.”

    Given your own work ethic SFB, its no wonder you begrudge aworking man taking a break

  78. Twitter tells me:

    The ABC has learnt tomorrow’s MYEFO budget update will reveal 120 billion dollars worth of deficits over the next 4 years

    Now that’s a shyte sandwich: Costello’s chickens coming home to roost in the form of a massive structural deficit. They can’t cut the dole any further, they are going to have to attack Howard’s middle class welfare recipients. Pretty tough break for the worst government in history.

  79. stackja

    Tracey
    #1112890, posted on December 16, 2013 at 6:48 pm
    Another Hollywood legend gone.
    Joan Fontaine

    “Last night, I dreamt I went to Manderley again. It seemed to me I stood by the iron gate leading to the drive, and for a while I could not enter for the way was barred to me. Then, like all dreamers, I was possessed of a sudden, the supernatural powers and passed like a spirit through the barrier before me. The drive wound away in front of me, twisting and turning as it had always done. But as I advanced, I was aware that a change had come upon it. Nature had come into her own again, and little by little had encroached upon the drive with long tenacious fingers, on and on while the poor thread that had once been our drive. And finally, there was Manderley. Manderley, secretive and silent. Time could not mar the perfect symmetry of those walls. Moonlight can play odd tricks upon the fancy, and suddenly it seemed to me that light came from the windows. And then a cloud came upon the moon and hovered an instant like a dark hand before a face. The illusion went with it. I looked upon a desolate shell, with no whisper of a past about its staring walls. We can never go back to Manderley again. That much is certain. But sometimes, in my dreams, I do go back to the strange days of my life which began for me in the south of France…” –the second Mrs. de Winter.

    Rebecca has been adapted several times. The most notable of these was the Academy Award winning 1940 Alfred Hitchcock film version Rebecca, the first film Hitchcock made under his contract with David O. Selznick. The film, which starred Sir Laurence Olivier as Max, Joan Fontaine as the Heroine, and Dame Judith Anderson as Mrs. Danvers, was based on the novel.

  80. That gender difference re the move in the vote is a bit puzzling.

    Is it mainly women who get uptight about arguments over education funding?

  81. stackja

    Australia 385 & 369/6d
    England 251 & 195/4 (53.2 ov)
    England require another 309 runs with 6 wickets remaining
    Day 4 – Session 3

  82. Seven is also reporting that the structural deficit is mainly due to revenue shortfalls, not expenditure blow outs. And of course Abbott’s mantra is to cut taxes. Reality is heading for Abbott’s vulnerable parts like a Mitchell Johnson sandshoe crusher.

  83. Tracey

    Christ. Costello hasn’t been Treasurer for over 6 years. What planet are you lefty wankers on.

  84. Rudd’s greatest mistake was to fail to walk back the late Costello tax cuts, which caused the structural deficit in the first place.

  85. twostix

    Costello’s chickens coming home to roost in the form of a massive structural deficit.

    lol

    Seven is also reporting that the structural deficit is mainly due to revenue shortfalls

    That’s good – they won’t mind when Turnbull takes back the 250 million dollars a year Conroy bribed them with while he was skiing with Stokes like the “working man” he is.

  86. tylos

    And I’m now off to France for a week. See ya.

    If he was smart he’d take the married ABC newsreader he’s f**kin and charge it all to the taxpayer. Guaranteed to get no media coverage that way… (outside of local rags in the hills of the Haute-Loire that is)

  87. twostix

    One more post m0nty. Just one more post and you’ll bring Abbott down all buy yourself.

  88. egg_

    The ABC has learnt tomorrow’s MYEFO budget update will reveal 120 billion dollars worth of deficits over the next 4 years

    Precisely 100 ABCs, eh?

  89. Christ. Costello hasn’t been Treasurer for over 6 years.

    I would have thought that, pretty much by definition, structural problems in government finances do not manifest themselves overnight.

    Have a look at the US, for example.

  90. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    90 posts on this page.

    ~31 by monty and shitfer

    Watching their frenetic meltdown is extremely entertaining!

  91. jumpnmcar

    Wonderful stats post ( stolen ) as of today.
    Sachin Tendulkar
    200 tests
    15,921 runs
    51 tons.
    Add Alastair Cook ( eng capt ) and Micheal Clarke ( Aust capt ) stats together and get the same.
    Exactly the same tests, tons and test runs!!
    Fucken Wow!!

  92. twostix

    Watching their frenetic meltdown is extremely entertaining!

    Poor old Wayne Swan, the left have sent him to the memory hole. Remember when he was the Greatest Treasurer Ever?

    Now he doesn’t even get a look in.

  93. jumpnmcar

    Out for supper now, have a good one.

  94. JC

    Rudd’s greatest mistake was to fail to walk back the late Costello tax cuts, which caused the structural deficit in the first place.

    The failed first year economics student is now talking about structreal deficits.

    Fatboy, how much is the structreal deficit as a component of the actually deficit? Explain how and why.

  95. Tracey

    I would have thought that, pretty much by definition, structural problems in government finances do not manifest themselves overnight.

    And yet you think the incoming government a failure for not having everything sorted in under 100 days.

  96. twostix

    Fatboy, how much is the structreal deficit as a component of the actually deficit? Explain how and why.

    Give him a minute JC – he needs to ask the intellectual Juggernaut known as Twitter.

  97. squawkbox

    Monty is clearly on a truly spectacular sugar high. He will probably explode like Mr Creosote in a cloud of sucrose and chocolate before Christmas. Avoid the wafer-thin mints!

  98. JC

    I would have thought that, pretty much by definition, structural problems in government finances do not manifest themselves overnight.

    Have a look at the US, for example.

    Yea, look at the US, you eggnog. Structreal deficits is what in the US?

  99. candy

    tylos a friend of yours Monty?

  100. JC

    Fatboy:

    Here’s a clue, if tax receipts sag as they have done because of a fall off in economic activity, it doesn’t mean there is a structreal deficit per se, you fat fuck. You understand that, or not?

    Has Homer E paxton been talking to you on your blog as he was the master of structreal deficits. In fact the word “structreal” as made up by Structreal Deficits Professor Homer Paxton.

    Which reminds me where is that moron? I may take a peek at your blog to see if he’s been there., so next time you count the people who have been to your blog deduct one. Me!

  101. stackja

    With TA at 100 Days – the original 100 Days

    FDR’s First 100 Days: Did It Work?
    Historians are mixed in their appraisals of FDR’s First 100 Days.
    Some argue FDR should have given more attention to international efforts to combat the Great Depression. Others cite the contradictory nature of some of his legislative program.
    “It simply has to be admitted,” Brain Trust member Rexford Tugwell later recalled, “that Roosevelt was not yet certain what direction he ought to take and was, in fact, going both ways at once.”

  102. Never seen tylos before in my life. But if s/he brings that sort of rubbish, I hope to never see them again.

  103. JC: Australian GDP growth is pretty near historical averages, so why are we now averaging $30B in arrears? By definition, these deficits are structural because we’re nowhere near a recession.

  104. stackja

    espncricinfo
    8.1 Watson to Stokes, no run
    End of over 58 (maiden) England 206/4
    IR Bell 50* (87b 5×4 1×6) PM Siddle 15-6-31-0
    BA Stokes 44* (62b 7×4) SR Watson 6-1-15-1
    57.6 Siddle to Bell, no run, well played, a length ball gets big on Bell, maybe hitting a crack but he makes sure it goes down on its way to the slip cordon
    57.5 Siddle to Bell, no run, Siddles uses the crease, angled in from quite wide but it doesn’t come back far enough to shiver Bell’s timbers
    57.4 Siddle to Bell, no run, full, Bell drives and holds the pose, mid-off does what he was put there to do and fields
    57.3 Siddle to Bell, no run, touch short and steered off the back foot to backward point on the bounce
    57.2 Siddle to Bell, no run, pitched up on the stumps, pushed back towards the bowler
    Alan, why are you called Monty?” It’s a long story involving a now-obsolete instant messenger surface and a youthful love for left-arm finger spinners, Jeff

  105. Tel

    … so why are we now averaging $30B in arrears?

    Because we were falling behind at a rate of $50B per year under the ALP and it takes time to staunch the public spending, errr public bleeding I mean.

  106. Hockey will have to lift revenue as a percentage of GDP up to levels not seen since… Costello. The temptation to hike up the GST like they did in England and New Zealand will be strong. Lucky they haven’t annoyed the states lately… oh wait.

  107. nic

    Monty, you are like someone whose friend takes a large dump on the footpath and then laughs when someone else has to clean it up.

  108. Carpe Jugulum

    Monty, you are like someone whose friend takes a large dump on the footpath.

    FTFY

  109. Tom

    No, no, no, pond scum. Your access to the treasury has been denied. You no longer have the passkey to spend billions of dollars of other people’s money. The arrogance of cnuts like you is staggering.

  110. twostix

    Hockey will have to lift revenue as a percentage of GDP up to levels not seen since… Costello. The temptation to hike up the GST like they did in England and New Zealand will be strong. Lucky they haven’t annoyed the states lately… oh wait.

    Cool story, bro.

    Or he could cut the orgy of ALP spending like they promised they would.

    Or better just not bother and let the deficits run leaving them for the next irresponsible, corrupt, juvenile ALP government to sort out.

  111. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Since 2.39 I have been on a roll, readin’, writin’ and no ‘rithmatic.
    Wrote something I was marginally happy with. Rah!
    Two heavy celebratory shots since then of Spiced Sailor Jerry with Coke.
    Some very ridiculous advice being given far upthread about alcohol.
    Alcohol is life’s balm, something we stole early from the gods.

  112. Monty, you are like someone whose friend takes a large dump on the footpath and then laughs when someone else has to clean it up.

    So you’re saying Abbott is the dumper and Hockey is the cleaner. Good analogy.

  113. Tell me again, lefties, how having armed personnel present is ALWAYS a bad thing and will never work?

    I need a laugh.

    Here’s a real laugh.
    Every day in the U.S., an average of 289 people are shot. Eighty-six of them die: 30 are murdered, 53 kill themselves, two die accidentally, and one is shot in a police intervention.
    The USA has 89 guns per person. Australia has 15.
    There are school massacres in the USA occurring with routine frequency.
    Since the Howard gun reforms of 1996, there has not been a massacre (in a school or anywhere else for that matter) in this country.
    And yet there are gun wankers in Australia who advocate an easing of restrictions on gun ownership in this country, using the USA as a model.
    Even more bizarre, they advocate arming school personnel as a solution to the problem of school massacres, completely ignoring the facts, the history, and the statistics.
    If this wasn’t such an expression of wild eyed lunacy, it really would be funny.
    It’s not funny – just very sad.

  114. Tom

    Please don’t feed the troll scum.

  115. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    hey, a 100% return rate. trolls. So predictable. So entertaning!

    I mean, look at this, a racist bigot in his spittle-flecked screed assures us that there’s 28,213,000,000 guns in the USA and 345,000,000 guns in Australia.

    if brains were antimatter, he’d not have enough to blow a gnats hooter.

  116. Tom

    Please don’t feed the troll scum.

    Except for professional troll scum bounty hunters with a fee-per-pelt arrangement with the landowner.

  117. Tel

    Every day in the U.S., an average of 289 people are shot. Eighty-six of them die: 30 are murdered, 53 kill themselves, two die accidentally, and one is shot in a police intervention.

    Suicide is a tragedy, caused by stress, hardship, depression, lack of social cohesion, difficulty finding true friends in this world, and to some extent because government has taken over charity and are bad at it. In no way is it caused by guns. Australians also commit suicide, they just choose whatever means is more easily at hand. Japanese jump off buildings.

    Using suicide as an anti-gun statistic is pathetic, but beyond that it’s just a really, really miserable and shameful thing to do.

  118. Tel

    Or better just not bother and let the deficits run leaving them for the next irresponsible, corrupt, juvenile ALP government to sort out.

    That was the George W Bush strategy, and although while looking from a safe distance the outcome is getting to be hilarious, on the other hand a lot of innocent people are getting hurt by that (and more to come). That’s presuming you believe in innocent voters under a democracy… which is probably too complex a topic for this forum.

  119. Since the Howard gun reforms of 1996, there has not been a massacre (in a school or anywhere else for that matter) in this country.

    How many have there been in NZ? (Which still has guns)

    Related to topic: Why does the SandyHook massacre get so much attention, yet the massacre the following day in a Texas cinema gets so little attention?

  120. Had Austrlia had gun laws alla same longa USA, very few, if any, of the half-dozen noted gun massacres would have happened.

    Something for the anti-gun bogans to ponder.

  121. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    SATP – new fred…

    BUT, I think it’s hilarious that our resident anti-American bigot and firearms-obsessive thinks the USA has ~55,000,000 tons of firearms in private hands.

    Strong buggers, eh? Why, even the moppets are clanking slowly around the place, lugging artillery.

    All that stuff we here about the USA being full of jubbling fatties has to be twaddle, the extra weight comes from carrying all the guns!

  122. C.L.

    Abbott appointee Stott-Despoja decides her first order of business is to embarrass Tony Abbott.

    Really clever appointment, Tony.

    Incidentally:

    The position [of ambassador for women and girls] was created by former Labor prime minister Julia Gillard.

    That would be the same Julia Gillard who decided to send women and girls to Malaysia to be whipped and sold to brothels.

  123. johanna

    Bizarre decision. Whoever even suggested it should be fired.

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