Lets have more of this from Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson

Talk about exploding heads – the luvvies are going wild on twitter. This clip is being circulated to demonstrate the OUTRAGE of Tim Wilson’s appointment.

Well said.

I hope this appointment is an hors d’oeuvre and not the high point of the Abbott government.

Update: Of course we shouldn’t forget this either.

Update II: Mark Dreyfus ‘questions‘ appointment:

“By appointing Mr Wilson, Senator Brandis has sent a strong signal about exactly the kind of blatant political agenda he wishes to pursue as Attorney-General,” Mr Dreyfus said.

We can only live in hope.

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162 Responses to Lets have more of this from Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson

  1. Infidel Tiger

    I’d say both major parties would hate his guts, so all in all a very fair appointment.

  2. Token

    As M0nty Burns would say…Excellent

    [Arches hands and taps fingers in a calculating manner]

  3. cohenite

    Good man is Tim. He thinks AGW is bullshit too.

  4. gabrianga

    Would suggest Brandis must have been apoplectic when McFarlane grabbed Combet.(sarc very sarc)

  5. In Tasmania one cannot speak freely in certain ‘prohibited zones’. The Right to Free Speech now has a $9750 price tag.

  6. Major Elvis Newton

    Not going to be so easy to criticise the boss and your colleagues so publicly anymore.

  7. stackja

    Mark Dreyfus ‘questions‘ appointment:

    Good endorsement.

  8. Gab

    Someone’s being a bit snarky:

    Andrew Leigh ‏@ALeighMP 3m

    Tim Wilson wants to abolish Human Rights Commission. Govt appointed him to it. Next up, D.Flint to head ARM, C.Bernardi to run Mardi Gras.

    Not happy, Andrew?

  9. entropy

    So Andrew Leigh is giving them ideas?

  10. Token

    Someone’s being a bit snarky:

    Remember, no much he lies or says stupid things, that one must not be criticised in these halls.

  11. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    Seriously, who gives a frog’s fat one what Andrew ‘Party Line’ Leigh thinks.

    Knock ‘em dead Tim.

  12. Ant

    “…blatant political agenda” – from Dreyfuss?

    I’m through with giving the Left the benefit of the doubt as a benevolent force in our society.

    They’re scum. Pure and simple scum. And if they were that alone I wouldn’t be that harsh on them but there much more than that. They’re scum that want to pollute your mind and infest your world with their childish and destructive stupidity. Minding their own business and leaving others to mind theirs never enters their idiotic miniscule little brains.

    I have never heard Tim Wilson utter a single word in anger over any issue. He is measured, polite and well informed – always.

    Unlike the Left, who are anything but.

  13. JC

    Andrew Leigh ‏@ALeighMP 3m

    Tim Wilson wants to abolish Human Rights Commission. Govt appointed him to it. Next up, D.Flint to head ARM, C.Bernardi to run Mardi Gras.

    Why doesn’t little Andy go say a prayer to the original owners. He’s such a dickhead.

  14. TerjeP

    With David Leyonhjelm and Bob Day joining the senate next year, Clinton Mead as mayor of Campbelltown and Jeff Pettett also in local government, Peter Phelps in NSW state government, and now Tim Wilson appointed as Human Rights Commissioner we might well look back at this point in time and say it marked the beginning of the long march of libertarians through Australia’s public institutions.

    I’ve written to QandA and warned them of this impending problem and suggested that they put these libertarians on a panel and subject them to some very tough questions. Should be a hoot if they oblige.

  15. Rabz

    “By appointing Mr Wilson, Senator Brandis has sent a strong signal about exactly the kind of blatant political agenda he wishes to pursue as Attorney-General,” Mr Dreyfus said.

    FFS, what staggering hypocrisy. Dreyfus really is a cretin.

  16. But JC and Monty on a Q and A panel. With moderation by Graeme Bird. Now *that* would be a hoot.

  17. egg_

    Andrew Leigh ‏@ALeighMP 3m

    Tim Wilson wants to abolish Human Rights Commission. Govt appointed him to it. Next up, D.Flint to head ARM, C.Bernardi to run Mardi Gras.

    Andrew Leigh to head political punditry house…

  18. nic

    Funny how lefties cannot tolerate one, just one speaker of commonsense. Keep it coming please.

  19. e-girl

    Also on his list should be property rights (incl. asset forfeiture and various forms of denial of use), rights to due process (Queensland), arbitrary search and seizure, privacy (electronic health records are mocking this concept), and everything that can be summed up as natural justice.

    I suspect this current government will disappoint with respect to all of these. May Tim Wilson be a thorn in their side until they pledge protection of those basic rights for all.

  20. Rococo Liberal

    Senator Brandis is a class act.

  21. Rococo Liberal

    Isn’
    t it funny? Everyone now expects the left to appoint heaps of their creatures and cronies to public bodies. But as soon as the right appoints one all hell breaks loose.

    Stuff them!

    I want the Abbott Government to appoint as many as their own to qangos and stautory authirties as they can. All these people should then work to close down/privatise as many of these bodies as possible.

  22. srr

    The Leftists will be in leg irons wondering wtf happened, before they can spin back enough to figure out wtf happened…as evidenced by Exibit 1 and Exibit 2, either side of Tim.

  23. Token

    Senator Brandis is a class act.

    Brandis has certainly had a great month.

  24. JC

    Quentin Bryce is a Republican. Did Andrew Leigh question her appointment to the position of GG.
    What a transparent arsehole. He’s a terrible politician because he’s leave gaps wider than the grand canyon on any argument he gets into.

    He’s weaker than monster and Stepford.

  25. .

    Hilarious, Terje.

    Let’s hope your ruse works.

    Note that Leigh thinks the Government runs the Mardi Gras and ARM.

    He went to the School of Government, didn’t he?

  26. twostix

    “…blatant political agenda” – from Dreyfuss?

    These people really are beyond the pale. Fancy a government, formed by a political party, made up of politicians having a “political agenda”. No things like governing according to “labor values” such as stacking commissions with union thugs, “cracking down” on critical Newspapers etc are reserved exclusively for the left.

  27. Token

    Isn’ t it funny? Everyone now expects the left to appoint heaps of their creatures and cronies to public bodies. But as soon as the right appoints one all hell breaks loose.

    Lefty 101. They project your sins on others.

    I’m surprised the report didn’t have the emotive work “slams” which seems to be a basic requirement for all faux outrages from the Liars Party.

    They know their clients in the media will hype the report based upon their home made twitter storm so why would they show any self regard?

  28. Token

    He’s weaker than monster and Stepford.

    He got into parliament and has squibbed it ever since. He has no ticker.

  29. David

    FFS, what staggering hypocrisy. Dreyfus really is a cretin

    Gad sir you go too far. Compared to Dreyfus the cretii[?] are fine upstanding people and you should apologise to them immediately.

    :-) :-) :-)

  30. Gab

    Just a pity Brandis didn’t appoint Bolt as HR commissioner. Fireworks? The leftards would have a nuclear meltdown. Pretty to watch.

  31. Pickles

    Brandis QC is a busy little bee. Any more presents for us George?

  32. twostix

    t it funny? Everyone now expects the left to appoint heaps of their creatures and cronies to public bodies. But as soon as the right appoints one all hell breaks loose.

    For decades the SOP of the left has been to be “radicals” – the rule breakers. They get in smash the place up implement their agenda come hell or high water knowing that the staid, boring, fixer-upper Liberals will come in and tidy it all up for them afterwards due to adhering to some outdated mode of political chivalry and even handedness.

    I wondered once what would happen if the Liberals decided to not do that anymore, but instead started using the same tactics and rules as Labor and the left use.

    Then what happens?

  33. cynical1

    It says all you need to know about Dreyfus, that he makes Roxon appear half way competent..

  34. Token

    I wondered once what would happen if the Liberals decided to not do that anymore, but instead started using the same tactics and rules as Labor and the left use.

    Then what happens?

    2 choices:

    * A lefty-light bloated government and the lefties get to control everything and an electorate that is by default left (like Tories like Heath, et al) achieved
    * Small government with constitutional controls to inhibit the bloat

    Still hard to see which way Abbott wants to steer the ship. Brandis is on the right track though.

  35. Tom

    From the second vid, Jessica Irvine is so fucking stupid she gives zombie airheads a bad name. Australia is such a free country and people don’t think their freedom is under threat, sez the frootloop. Meanwhile fascist thug ‘Mussolini” Conroy gets within a handful of votes in the House of Reps of outlawing free speech in the media. Crisis? What crisis? Like Shitfer and the other trolls, she assumes any new instititution will automatic be owned by the left so, no, there’s no reason for concern among fucktards because the law doesn’t apply to them.

  36. Andrew

    It is no coincidence that Brandis has been put in a non-economic portfolio. He is no friend of economic liberalisation.

  37. jupes

    Andrew Leigh ‏@ALeighMP 3m

    Tim Wilson wants to abolish Human Rights Commission. Govt appointed him to it. Next up, D.Flint to head ARM, C.Bernardi to run Mardi Gras…

    … Quentin Bryce as Governor General.

  38. JC

    Snap Jupes

    I tweeted the moron back

    @ALeighMP re Wilson appointment. Tell us Andrew, did you oppose republican Bryce’s appointment? Ummm you’re not good at this stuff, ummmm

  39. manalive

    Excellent appointment, well done Senator Brandis and congratulations TIm.

  40. jupes

    That second clip is hilarious.

    Tim was destroying his (now) fellow commissioner when the ABC flunky tried to rescue her by getting the airhead to make a stupid, ignorant comment. This the airhead promptly did, however sadly for Elizabeth Broderick it didn’t work.

    They could make a reality TV show of the HRC office banter in the new year.

  41. Token

    From the second vid, Jessica Irvine is so fucking stupid she gives zombie airheads a bad name.

    Of course, why do you think she appears on panel shows on the ABC where she is covered by the host & another guest?

    PS: The economics in society graduate is another of the protected species.

  42. Token

    They could make a reality TV show of the HRC office banter in the new year.

    My quip about the need for CCTV was based upon the chance to make a ripping “Office” type show, and to protect Tim’s back from when the minutes get changed in meetings in preparation for the planned dismissal proceedings for harassment, bullying, etc.

  43. Gab

    Love the videos. He’s easy on the eyes and has brains too!

  44. James B

    This is a bad thing. We don’t want to make public institutions “balanced”, they can’t be. We want to abolish them. The more obvious public institutions’ bias is, the more likely people will stop tolerating them. It’s quite simple.

    They cannot be reformed, they must be ended.

  45. jupes

    We don’t want to make public institutions “balanced”, they can’t be

    True. Seven lefties on the HRC against Tim Wilson. It isn’t fair.

    They will need a lot of backup.

  46. Percy

    Let’s be honest, the libs were never going to scrap the HRC. With that in mind, this is a particularly ballsy appointment and I am delighted that they found the requisite fruits to do it. Best of luck Tim

  47. Percy

    Outstanding timing. I’ve made two posts today, one about Milne complaining, one about Wilson’s appointment. Turned over to Sky to see Milne complaining about Tim Wilson. Apparently she has some gripe with Mirrabella also :) Happy days

  48. Ant

    Just watched the videos. Tim in both was superb.

    In the second with the HR Commissioner, just look at how these Leftists run like cockroaches the instant a bit of light is cast over what they’ve been up to in the shadows, squirrelled away in their air conditioned offices and super-remunerated positions.

    She can’t even defend her own report, but runs as fast as she can from it until cornered and then turns and tries to lie her way out of all the sludge she’s been busy shovelling over herself.

    The Left are cowards.

    Sure, they’re out there chests puffed out when they have a sympathetic government showering them with the spoils of office paid for by the workers they pretend to care about; and a media class that treats them like they’re Ghandi (or Mandela).

    But the minute you expose their BS with logic and truth, they just come apart and end up looking like the idiots they really are.

  49. Leigh Lowe

    “By appointing Mr Wilson, Senator Brandis has sent a strong signal about exactly the kind of blatant political agenda he wishes to pursue as Attorney-General,” Mr Dreyfus said.

    Doofus says that like it’s a bad thing.

  50. Gab

    Twitter still in meltdown:

    martir ‏@martiontwit 2h

    Homophobic Brandis choice for human rights commission is criminal Australia more like Nazi Germany than ever

    And then along came Soon:

    jtfsoon ‏@jtfsoon 1h

    Most US left support free speech. It’s in their Constitution. Someone who supports that here is likened to Hitler

  51. Token

    Apparently she has some gripe with Mirrabella also Happy days

    Is there more news, or is that just in general?

  52. jupes

    In the second with the HR Commissioner …

    To be accurate, that was Elizabeth Broderick the Sex Discrimination Commissioner.

    But the minute you expose their BS with logic and truth, they just come apart and end up looking like the idiots they really are.

    Yes, Tim had her quite flustered. Gold!

  53. C.L.

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  54. boy on a bike

    With any luck, he will kick off his appointment by prosecuting Finkelstein for attempting to muzzle free speech. The luvvies would go completely apeshit crazy if the HRC was used to go after one of their own.

  55. Riverina Matt

    Homophobic Brandis choice for human rights commission is criminal Australia more like Nazi Germany than ever

    Um, isn’t Wilson gay? What a homophobe that Brandis is …

  56. Jazza

    Hooray!
    Tim’s my pin up boy,as I admire his work at the and for the IPA–congratulations Tim and very good luck in the job

  57. Percy

    Token, I haven’t looked into the Mirrabella thing, was surprised Milne mentioned it in her press conference. Perhaps she knows more than the rest of us. Double head explode ( for Milne) if she (Mirrabella) does get appointed to the ABC

  58. gnome

    Anyone opposing the appointment of Tim Wilson to the HRC really needs to take a good hard look at themselves.

    What has he ever said or done that is incompatible with a respect for human rights?

    Forget the politics, ask the question on the facts!

  59. johninoxley

    Percy, I’d pay good money to see that. Is the double head cause she comes from Tassie.

  60. Alphonse

    Apparently Mr Wilson will draw a salary of $320 000 per year. Glad to see good tax money being wasted yet again. I bet he does nothing like the rest of these useless “commissioners”.

    I’ve never seen, or heard, of any of them. Then again, I don’t watch the ABC.

  61. http://www.timwilson.com.au/aboutme.htm
    Partner Ryan

    Like the gravitas of the photo. Australia’s first gay Prime Minister, if he gets on with the job sharpish.

  62. 'S

    +1 gnome. Really should hammer that point on social media.

  63. James of the Glen

    Congratulations to both Tim and George.

    (And looking back at the second clip, the inanity of Jessica Irvine is still breathtaking. If there’d been more time I’m sure Tim would have pointed out the number of media outlets does not equate to the degree of freedom of speech.

    In fact, there are about 23 million “outlets” for speech in Australia but poor young Jessica could not quite get her head around that there were 23 million outlets which were to be severely limited in what they could say. Ditto for the garrulous(!) harpy.)

  64. Tintarella di Luna

    Congratulations Tim Wilson. Great choice.

    Don’t you just love his bitch-slapping of Lisping Lizzie Broderick (to be exact on the Lizzies). The AHRC has not stood up for anything other than the welcome to country and Lisping Lizzie comes out and says that the AHRC is doing great ’cause Gert Wilders came out here to speak. Talk about hypocrisy — where was the AHRC when Gert Wilders was hounded around Australia with all manner of vilification, with the Federal government joining in the chorus delaying the provision of a visa to Wilders. The talentless gormless bint Kate Lundy called him “an extreme-right politician promulgating views that are out of step with mainstream Australia”

    I’m sending in my application to Brandis; I want to be the Australian Human Rights Commissioner to defend the Rights of the Child.

  65. Percy

    Nice one johninoxley, but i was thinking more along the lines of the pawn shop guy in Men in Black

  66. JC

    I’m sending in my application to Brandis; I want to be the Australian Human Rights Commissioner to defend the Rights of the Child.

    I’d love to be on the climate authority.

  67. jumpnmcar

    Tim currently lives in Melbourne with his partner, Ryan

    The next critic of Tim must be a homophobe. ( if we go by lefty logic )

  68. Sfb has already appointed me to do a review of Medicare funding for abortion, which I accepted with delight.

  69. hzhousewife

    I am going to communicate to Mr Tim Wilson that he should really head the
    “Human Responsibilities Commission”.
    From what I heard on the RN Drive interview tonight with Waleed Aly ( they
    appear chummy btw) he will stir the pot – and the pot needs stirring no doubt.
    A pleasing appointment.

  70. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Philippa:

    Like the gravitas of the photo. Australia’s first gay Prime Minister, if he gets on with the job sharpish.

    Tim Wilson as PM – that would be brilliant. He’s a solid man, very sharp.

  71. egg_

    Tim Wilson as PM – that would be brilliant. He’s a solid man, very sharp.

    +1

  72. Alf

    Even when it’s news that you’re happy about, most of the people here manage to be anything from angry to vengeful to unhinged (I’m looking at you Ant).

  73. Percy

    ” Wilson as PM – that would be brilliant. He’s a solid man, very sharp”

    +2

    Also, very confusing for many on the left

  74. Dan

    I like him but this is kind of ridiculous. What are there, 8 ‘commissioners’ and a president? That’s 3million bucks before you even start paying the staff. It is a disgrace that the body exists at all. The only threats to human rights recently came from the Labor government. Just shrink government a d we won’t need to pay for human rights bodies either.

  75. SteveC

    I’m not off to a good start. I agreed with Tim in the first clip. Haven’t watched the second.

  76. candy

    You do have to wonder what human rights issues in Australia would require such a magnificent board of illustrious people.

    Tim Wilson though is very likeable and enthusiastic, quite engaging as a speaker.

  77. Indolent

    Hey, Dan! I know where you’re coming from, but hell let us freedom loving people have a bit of fun. We’ve been repeatedly slapped down over the last 6 years so it’s time for …some kickback. The best bit is that the articulate and intelligent Tim, always on the high moral ground of freedom, and easy on the eye to boot, is …GAY!! This is the best thing I heard all day. He is OUR GAY so up yours David Maher!!

    Fairly recently, I sent a thousand bucks to the IPA to keep fighting fascists. Roskam even rang my office to say thanks. Right now I’m thinking about pulling that ol’ chequebook out again…..

  78. Token

    The next critic of Tim must be a homophobe. ( if we go by lefty logic )

    Wrong track, if Tim & Ryan don’t back gay marriage the repugnant Uncle Tom label will be thrown around.

  79. Indolent

    Token guess what Tim has already said that marriage is not a human right!

    LOL, preemptive strike!

  80. Turtle of WA

    It’s a bit like Dan Hannan being a member of the EU parliament. He is part of an organisation that he wants to get rid of.

    I wonder how many lefty tweets broke Godwin’s law today?

    Lefties are always the first to accuse their opponent of ‘generalising’ or ‘stereotyping’, but the minute they don’t like someone – ‘Nazi Homophobe!’

  81. Dan

    You don’t need Nanny Gillard or Abbott to marry you before you can say you are married. State sanctioned marriage is complete BS. Gay marriage shouldn’t even be a political issue if you are a libertarian. Indolent i see what you mean but abolishing billions of dollars of this crap would be fun enough plus I might get to retain some of my own money. I mean Tim is earning more than me in that job and the HRC is a completely unnecessary body or would be if government left us all alone.

  82. Infidel Tiger

    Is fast broadband a human right? Labor seem to think so.

  83. Dianne

    I won’t link to it – but the commentary on the Guardian’s website is unbelievable.

  84. Indolent

    Dan I understand and agree, but destroying the behemoth that is government control of our lives will take time.

    It will not be easy, nor pleasant. Not least for the lefty types whose heads necessarily must explode. Following each and every Brandis press release.

    Hang in there.

  85. will

    Fairly recently, I sent a thousand bucks to the IPA to keep fighting fascists. Roskam even rang my office to say thanks. Right now I’m thinking about pulling that ol’ chequebook out again…..

    you are a hero

    seriously

    if only more business types would do the same

  86. 2dogs

    The strategy could be this:

    1. Make a number of blatantly partisan appointments.
    2. Wait for the public outcry, including calls for reform.
    3. Implement the called for reforms with full retrospectivity, removing the few new appointments and a huge number of old ones in the process. (Think of the heads rolling in the judiciary and the ABC.)
    4. Appoint all replacements, admittedly with new constraints, but even a 50/50 result is better than the current wall-to-wall ALP lifers.

  87. Robert Blair

    if only more business types would do the same

    Well, I’m a “business type” I guess, but my contribution was more like $50 …

    I guess I’m pretty much a “small” business type :)

  88. cohenite

    I’m not off to a good start.

    That’s because you’re a fuckwit steve.

  89. stackja

    2dogs
    #1114646, posted on December 17, 2013 at 8:23 pm
    The strategy could be this:
    1. Make a number of blatantly partisan appointments.
    2. Wait for the public outcry, including calls for reform.
    3. Implement the called for reforms with full retrospectivity, removing the few new appointments and a huge number of old ones in the process. (Think of the heads rolling in the judiciary and the ABC.)
    4. Appoint all replacements, admittedly with new constraints, but even a 50/50 result is better than the current wall-to-wall ALP lifers.

    Have Tim Blair run the ABC.

  90. tomix


    I won’t link to it – but the commentary on the Guardian’s website is unbelievable.


    My page 2 fave – “We are stuck in an Orwellian/Kafkaesque nightmare”

  91. Bill Clark's nephew

    Well done George, and good luck Tim.
    And well done ABC – no mention of it on 7 o’clock news or 7.30

  92. SteveC

    so much bile will give you ulcers, cohenite.

  93. Percy

    “And well done ABC – no mention of it on 7 o’clock news or 7.30″

    Right after Hockey’s presser today, ABC radio ran a thrilling interview regarding the Hendra virus for twenty minutes. Budget got a quick mention in the following news update.

  94. The Grauniad:

    She [Gillian Triggs of the HREOC] added: “I’m not suggesting for a moment a bill of rights be introduced – we’ve had that debate – but Tim will have a task arguing for freedom without tools of legislation for it.”

    I’m not sure the current HREOCers understand this whole freedom thing….

  95. jumpnmcar

    so much bile will give you ulcers, cohenite.

    Is that true?
    I thought most ulcers were caused by Helicobacter pylori bacterium.

  96. cohenite

    No bile steve; exchanging pleasantries with you and your ilk allows me to channel my inner leftie; it’s so liberating.

  97. DrBeauGan

    Great appoinment and I emailed Tim to tell him so.
    Now when do I get to head a federal MRD?
    Been reading Plimer’s beaut book which I got from joining IPA. Sent them a small donation and will send more after Christmas is out of the way.
    The fact that Tim is gay is icing on the cake!

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Roskam even rang my office to say thanks

    I have had similar calls – if that make me someone to be eradicated when the Red revolution comes, well, so be it.

  99. sabrina

    I recommended Judith Sloan; your recent criticism of the LNP cost you this position Judith.

  100. wreckage

    your recent criticism of the LNP cost you this position Judith.

    But Tim’s recent criticism of the LNP didn’t.

    What a thrilling piece of political intrigue this isn’t.

  101. .

    Sabrina the troll at it again.

    Perpetuating the myth the cat ought not criticise the LNP.

    Sod off, swampy.

  102. Splatacrobat

    Is fast broadband a human right? Labor seem to think so.

    Along with owning a Holden and getting free stuff.

  103. Ripper

    Seriously , this is a great appointment , could not be a better person for the job.

  104. Like the gravitas of the photo. Australia’s first gay Prime Minister, if he gets on with the job sharpish.

    Not that the Left will care. They like someone who’s gay first and everything else second; someone who identifies first as, and shows most pride in, their public image as [insert nature of job or profession here] and couldn’t care less about trumpeting their sexuality to the world just doesn’t suit the Leftist mindset.

  105. Uber

    I notice that in his article in the Australian today that Wilson still feels constrained from mentioning Christian values, and instead talks around that central issue by calling them ‘traditional liberal democratic and common law rights’. We still have a long way to go.

  106. sabrina

    This is the season for light heartedness Dotty.
    Judith is better off doing what she does. Tim will be better off heeding to the IPA’s call on the HRC earlier in the year.

  107. james

    I should not be shocked.

    Every time I still am.

    The absolute bile soaked wall-climbing mouth-foaming bloodthirsty pure hate of the left towards anyone who disagrees with them is gob-smacking to behold.

    Even those avowed leftists amongst my friends and family manage the mental gymnastics of being filled with hate against targets approved for hatred because of said targets supposed hateful attitudes.

    I don’t hate the left. I’m Fucking terrified of them.

  108. incoherent rambler

    Have Tim Blair run the ABC.

    Tim Blair as editor in chief of the news division. And a hard nosed slash and burn CEO (preferably with company asset stripping convictions).

  109. Struth

    Don’t be terrified of the left.
    Roll up to Canberra with a couple of hundred truckies and watch them shit themselves.

  110. .

    Uber #1115147, posted on December 18, 2013 at 7:26 am
    I notice that in his article in the Australian today that Wilson still feels constrained from mentioning Christian values, and instead talks around that central issue by calling them ‘traditional liberal democratic and common law rights’. We still have a long way to go.

    What’s the beef? I haven’t seen many Jewish or Buddhist terrorists.

  111. boy on a bike

    The HRC website has not been updated with the news that Tim is going to be joining them shortly.

    Hope the buggers are still in complete and utter shock.

  112. Dan

    What’s the beef? I haven’t seen many Jewish or Buddhist terrorists.

    Buddhism is just as bad as all the others. Think of the happy Buddhists in China, Japan, Cambodia, Vietnam and the hundreds of millions of murders in or by those countries in the past 100 years despite that background.

  113. Dan

    ‘traditional liberal democratic and common law rights

    I wasn’t aware the Pope was the caretaker of those rights although I guess he is ‘elected’.

  114. .

    Japan has a low murder rate, largely due to a faultless, quickly and fairly applied death penalty by hanging policy.

    BTW I’d say they are Shinto, but their take on religion is an ala carte smorgasboard (AFAIK). Believe whatever the hell you like, fit in, don’t rock the boat and everything is up for grabs in popular culture or emdia.

  115. Pat Warnock

    LaTrioli tried to rattle Tim this morning by bringing up the Bolt saga. He handled it well but I didn’t realise the bogeyman Bolt is to the left until now.

  116. Menai Pete

    The appointment of sensible, competent people to top jobs in the public sector is only a start. Their job is made more difficult because the bureaucracy which they oversee (and have to work with) is infested with permanently employed and effectively unsackable, marxist-indoctrinated minions who will go to any lengths to undermine any appointee who does not meet their ideological fixation. Hopefully the flow-down effect will see the eradication of these cretins in the long term as the organisation changes to reflect the principles of the bloke in charge.

  117. SteveC

    Japan has a low murder rate, largely due to a faultless, quickly and fairly applied death penalty by hanging policy.

    That’s an interesting, if off-topic, dumbing down of the analysis of murder crime rates dot. Many countries with similar low murder rate don’t have the death penalty. Maybe it’s the strong gun control laws.

  118. Token

    He handled it well but I didn’t realise the bogeyman Bolt is to the left until now.

    Bolt really gets into their heads as they know each time they indulge in their hate & fabricate things they will get slammed.

    They would shut donw his blog in a heartbeat by any means possible if they could to stop his readers putting on the record the incoherence and hypocricy of the left.

  119. .

    dumbing down of the analysis of murder crime rates dot

    That statement is the only vulgarisation made so far on the issue.

    Maybe it’s the strong gun control laws.

    …and that was the second one. Guns have supernatural powers to force people to committ crimes?

    With no sense or irony or shame you call other people stupid.

    You are an oxygen thief.

  120. Uber

    .
    #1115211, posted on December 18, 2013 at 8:52 am

    ‘What’s the beef? I haven’t seen many Jewish or Buddhist terrorists.’

    Western society was built upon a causal, non reductionist, rational Christian worldview (Judeo-Christian if you like, but that’s not quite as accurate). Our freedoms are a result of the praxis of that worldview, call them what you will from a secular perspective. I am pretty sure Wilson would agree with me.

    And it has nothing to do with the political power of the Pope, which has very little to do with the worldview itself. Apart from that the Pope is not the leader of Protestants; nor is he in any way, shape or form a replacement for the universal leadership and patronage of Jesus, (Catholics included).

  121. SteveC

    Ok I’ll try again, and make it simpler for you. Dot, do you have any evidence to support this claim:

    Japan has a low murder rate, largely due to a faultless, quickly and fairly applied death penalty by hanging policy.

  122. SteveC

    Maybe it’s the karaoke?

  123. .

    You can dumb it down all you want for yourself Steve. This doesn’t change the facts.

    There is tonnes of evidence for that. It is all true (e.g fair and speedy trials and low cost administration of criminal justice) and their murder rates has been consistently low.

    To have such a low murder rate with such a massive population is also very rare. We know this from international comparisons.

    What there is no evidence for, and evidence contrary to, is that the lack of weapons lowers the crime/murder rate. We know this from international comparisons.

    Your reasoning is as silly as the infamous “Bear Patrol” from The Simpsons. You’re an idiot like Homer who would buy a rock to keep tigers away. Specious reasoning indeed.

    We know the death penalty lowers the murder rate in the US more than life imprisonment does, as a standalone figure – the disincentive is stronger (this should be obvious but is isn’t for people like you, Steve C). Ehrlich found that famously when he tried to prove the opposite.

    In America the costs and benefits swing back to life imprisonment as the costs of administration are too high, which is not what you argued at all.

  124. .

    As I wrote this:

    Your reasoning is as silly as the infamous “Bear Patrol” from The Simpsons. You’re an idiot like Homer who would buy a rock to keep tigers away. Specious reasoning indeed.

    Idiot boy wriote:

    SteveC #1115501, posted on December 18, 2013 at 12:28 pm
    Maybe it’s the karaoke?

    Taking the piss out of himself.

  125. .

    Well done, you can use google.

    I mentioned Ehrlich, which was a peer reviewed article.

    The Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment: A Question of Life and Death
    Isaac Ehrlich
    The American Economic Review, Vol. 65, No. 3. (Jun., 1975), pp. 397-417.

    Erhlich found from 1933 to 1967, the marginal (he called it differential) deterrence was an extra 8 murders were prevented for every execution done instead of life sentencing. He also mentions the possibility of high administrative costs from the outset.

    I’ll call you Sheldon from now on dot.
    By evidence, I meant published papers, not your glib assertions.
    e.g.

    Hoist by your own petard, dickhead. Trying to win an argument by name dropping references and providing no real evidence.

    You are beneath contempt, SteveC.

  126. SteveC

    Sheldon, what proportion of murderers in Japan are sentenced to death? What is the median time on death row (you claimed “quickly applied”).

  127. SteveC

    Maybe Erlich knows better:

    A recent survey of the most leading criminologists in the country from found that the overwhelming majority did not believe that the death penalty is a proven deterrent to homicide. Eighty-eight percent of the country’s top criminologists do not believe the death penalty acts as a deterrent to homicide, according to a new study published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology and authored by Professor Michael Radelet, Chair of the Department of Sociology at the University of Colorado-Boulder, and Traci Lacock, also at Boulder.

    Similarly, 87% of the expert criminologists believe that abolition of the death penalty would not have any significant effect on murder rates. In addition, 75% of the respondents agree that “debates about the death penalty distract Congress and state legislatures from focusing on real solutions to crime problems.”

    The survey relied on questionnaires completed by the most pre-eminent criminologists in the country, including Fellows in the American Society of Criminology; winners of the American Society of Criminology’s prestigious Southerland Award; and recent presidents of the American Society of Criminology. Respondents were not asked for their personal opinion about the death penalty, but instead to answer on the basis of their understandings of the empirical research.

  128. SteveC

    Maybe it’s Japan lower unemployemt rate:
    The deterrent effect of capital punishment: A review of the research evidence

    In addition to finding that murders could
    be decreased by increasing the risk of
    arrest, conviction, and execution,
    Ehrlich’s model found other variables
    associated with reductions in homicide.
    Reducing unemployment exerted the
    same size negative effect as did raising
    the risk of execution (p. 410). Labour
    force participation and income levels
    were also significantly linked with the
    murder rate.

  129. .

    Finally you admit Japan has a low murder rate because it has been proven internationally that the death penalty works.

    Some of the research you quote to “prove” there is no deterrent actually claim the death penalty increases the murder rate – rather than examine the actual reasons for crime increasing – like rising unemployment.

    This is bizzare, amatuerish research that should never get pass peer review.

    Yet you cite unemployment and any other reason but the death penalty as a reason for a lower homicide rate. This is completely absurd as in a variety of models, the various factors drop out of some and are more significant in others. If all other factors were scrutinised as far as executions, these amatuerish researchers would conclude nothing deters anything. What is more bizzare is that you ignore ridiculous results that occurr, like unemployment falling being correlated to more homicides, but don’t ignore the nonsense result for executions.

    You and your dishonest associates are cherry picking the data and evidence, and have the hide to say Ehrlich etc areusing bad experimental design.

  130. Stevec

    Sheldon you are so full of shit you must have trouble talking without it dribbling down your chin. The BOCSAR article is an extensive critique of the literature, including detailed criticism of ehrlich. Some how the research of ehrlich is infallible. I guess because it partly agrees with you. You have provided no evidence for your assertion. No argument that it applies in the Japanese cultural context. You didn’t answer the question about the length of time on death row or the proportion of murderers that are actually executed. Based on your 8 fewer homicides per execution, removing the death penalty would increase the murder rate by 20 pee year. Still remarkably low. So what factor explains the rest of the low rate?

    In short your argument is japan has a low murder rate and it has the death penalty for a small subset of murderers. Therefore the death penalty causes the low murder rate. And you expect people to believe you because apparently you know everything.

  131. .

    you are so full of shit you must have trouble talking without it dribbling down your chin.

    Hold that thought.

    Some how the research of ehrlich is infallible.

    You quoted that research yourself.

    Dn’t you feel embarrased now given your previous quip?

    “You’re so full of shit you quote research you think is infalliable and which I quoted myself”

    This should be pretty embarassing for you, Steve. I feel sorry for you.

    No argument that it applies in the Japanese cultural context.

    Extraordinary police powers you and I would not accept.

    Therefore the death penalty causes the low murder rate.

    No, no one has ever argued that. The death penalty prevents the murder rate from being higher. It is correct to say, as I did, that:

    Japan has a low murder rate, largely due to a faultless, quickly and fairly applied death penalty by hanging policy.

    Which does not mean because of, nor does it mean caused by in context of partiality and one way causation – which you think is somehow made up crap.

    Furthermore, you want me to accept that where the models don’t bear a valid regression, sometimes the death penalty causes more murders.

    And you expect people to believe you because apparently you know everything.

    Oh God just give up. You banged on about ‘da literature’ when the seminal paper was right under your nose.

  132. Stevec

    Sheldon in your special world what does “largely due to” mean ?

  133. Stevec

    Or perhaps another way – if Japan did not have the death penalty would they still have a low murder rate.?

  134. .

    Those queries were answered above. Please re-read carefully or consider brushing up on your counting and comprehension skills.

  135. SteveC

    Japan has a low murder rate, largely due to a faultless, quickly and fairly applied death penalty by hanging policy.

    Which does not mean because of, nor does it mean caused by in context of partiality and one way causation.

    so again, simple question, in the special Sheldon world what does largely due to mean? You’ve said what it doesn’t mean. So what does it mean?

    just to be very clear – due to does not mean because of?
    largely does not mean mainly?

    Would the murder rate still be low if Japan did not have a death penalty?

  136. .

    The death penalty prevents the murder rate from being higher. It is correct to say, as I did, that:

    Japan has a low murder rate, largely due to a faultless, quickly and fairly applied death penalty by hanging policy.

    Which does not mean because of, nor does it mean caused by in context of partiality and one way causation – which you think is somehow made up crap.

    To answer your tedious questions which have been already answered:

    The rate would increase by a significantly higher amount. The low long term rate is largely caused by [this statement is consistent with my original statement and intermediate clarification] a consistent application of a fair, correctly applied and mostly speedy application of the death penalty.

    I have properly used language language, provided you with peer reviewed evidence which you didn’t realise was there, been consistent, had a clear understanding of the statistics, not manipulated findings, not contradicted myself as you have (which you shrugged off with no sense of shame or irony) and given international comparisons.

    Alternatively you have made assertions, applied double standards asking for proof whilst providing none of your own (other than listing references you didn’t read and spammed the site with and slab quoting Ehrlich to contradict yourself) and been tedious, asking me to repeat myself due to you lacking in numeracy, comprehension and grammar skills or knowledge.

    You have also incorrectly stated that I ignored other economic variables. Somehow you think “largely due” means “entirely because of”. (Yet you have the gall to sledge me as lacking basic comprehension and argue that I argue by special pleading.)

    I hope this doesn’t cause you too much trouble in your future career or studies.

    Fire away, I hope you have fun on your own.

    What a tedious load of crap. No one wants to hear an adult whinge like a child “…you think you know everything!”.

  137. SteveC

    It took me a while to find the disinfectant to clean up the mess Sheldon left on my screen.

    So, progress of a sort.

    We now know what Due to means in Sheldonville:

    Japan has a low murder rate because … the death penalty works.

    “Therefore the death penalty causes the low murder rate.” –
    No, no one has ever argued that.

    “Japan has a low murder rate, largely due to …”
    Which does not mean because of, nor does it mean caused by in context of partiality and one way causation

    The low long term rate is largely caused by…mostly speedy application of the death penalty.

    I like the subtle addition of mostly.

    So taking the last one. we’ll assume you did mean “caused by” when you said “due to”.

    So that leaves largely undefined. No I didn’t say “largely due” means “entirely because of”. I just asked what you meant by it and suggested other explanations. So maybe largely means the main reason, or just has more effect than other reasons. You can suggest your own meaning if you like.

    So let’s test that. If you take the “seminal” Ehrlich paper you quoted (and which I didn’t quote, BTW), and use the “extra 8 murders were prevented for every execution done”. Based on the average 7 executions per year for the last 7 years in Japan (it was lower prior to that), the death penalty avoided about 60 murders per year. That’s a 15% increase on the 2011 figure. But you could double the rate and it would still be very low. So what would be the cause of the other 85% increase to get to a still low figure. Is 15% largely?

    You made an overreach when you said “largely due to”, you farted around for a while arguing that “due to” doesn’t mean caused by, but eventually we got there.

    So now you stuck with “largely” which is unsustainable from the evidence you provided. Unless you want to argue the toss about what “largely” means.
    Your problem is you don’t know when to back down when you know you have made a mistake. I hope this doesn’t cause you too much trouble in your future career or studies.

  138. .

    I made no mistake reagrding the timeliness of executions. I clarified for you that speedy was in most circumstances, not all.

    Where it is not speedy it is commuted nearly all of the time.

    This is important as compared to US there is next to no doubt and the payoff is greatly reduced if you commit murder.

    Ehrlich’s 1975 paper is indeed seminal, with regards to marginal deterrence and murder. It is simply bizzare that you question this. You quoted the research results and off hand once I refer to this as ‘quoting that paper’, and you think this amounts to everything I said being wrong. How ridiculous, I mentioned your quoting of research a few times before that. Besides this point being tedious and asinine, you ignore that it disputes your claims and you were incorrect in saying that I ignored variables like unemployment.

    My original claim is correct, a swift and fairly applied death penalty is the largest factor in keeping the homicide rate low, is correct on the international comaprison, as if you exclude the end of the great depression, the comnditional probability of execution far outweighs the unemployment rate for the US. In Japan’s case of a lower unemployment rate, with American results as a guide, the deterrent effect of the death penalty is actually more important.

    Yes the homicide rate will rise if unemployment rises – but if unemployment is low, then the importance of the death penalty increases as a deterrent. Thus the death penalty is still the most important reason for a low murder rate, and keeping it low, but it is losing importance.

    Remember we are only using international comparisons and generally in criminology literature, the evidence of unemployment and crime rates (let alone homicide) as a factor of sensitivity is only very mild and the mass of studies are inconclusive as they are so inconsistent.

    Please see the Handbook of Crime Correlates for more.

    The following succintly says why you are wrong.

    Furthermore, we know that the death penalty has a causitive, marginal deterrence on top of life in prison.

    Japan’s low unemployment is simply correlated with the low murder rate. Strong causality is shown where murder is causing unemployment (which is a nonsense result, however statistically significant). There is not enough statistical evidence to prove a significant causation from unemployment to murder – per Lee & Holviak, Unemployment and crime: an empirical investigation, Applied Econ Letters, 2006.

    I’m amazed you are so arrogant when proved wrong so many times, and argue over the most tedious points, yet have the gall to call someone else “Sheldon” when you have demonstrated inumeracy, a lack of comprehension skills, a poor understanding of English, a lack of humility and petulance when proven wrong.

    Until you produce some empirical evidence you can piss yourself here in the sandpit all you like.

  139. SteveC

    It is quite amusing to watch you Sheldon. Apparently I can play here by myself, and yet you always come back!

    Let’s have a look at your “largest” factor claim again.
    Compare Japan with similar size industrial economies – Germany France England. About 1 murder per 100,000 per annum. For Japan 1 per 100,000 would be 1300 murders. Their rate is about 400. Take off the number predicted by Ehrlich – 50, so we are down to 1250. So something ese explains the remaining 850 difference.

    Now in Sheldon’s world 50 might be desribed as the largest part of 1300, but then you do live in avery special world don’t you Sheldon?

  140. This is what Dot does, SteveC. His favourite thing in the whole world is to latch onto a lone voice in the scientific wilderness – someone whose work is pilloried by practically every other scientist in the field as being wrong and misleading – and pretend that only he (and Dot) hold the key to knowledge and understanding. He does it with so many other topics.

    The pattern starts from his training as a right-wing economist, following all those zombie theories from classical economists who have been utterly discredited by empirical data since the 1930s. He follows this pattern in his support for abiotic oil, for instance. Ehrlich is just another mad scientist to whom Dot plays the role of Igor.

  141. Stevec

    Monty I even gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed ehrlich’s was correct. So even using his own reference he can’t justify his claim. Apparently he doesn’t even get the. Sheldon reference. Perhaps he does in fact have aspergers.

  142. .

    monty Ehrlich is a “Distinguished Professor of Economics”.

    someone whose work is pilloried by practically every other scientist in the field as being wrong and misleading

    Clearly not.

    Steve you asserted that Japan had a lower murder rate because of gun laws. This is your entire motivation for this argument, yet you mention Britain which has laws virtually strict as Japan now, the rate is higher and it increased after the laws got more strict.

    In Britain the murder rate doubled after the abolition of the death penalty, if you use the old methodology of counting homicides or not. After strict gun laws were introduced, the rate went up 50% within six years and has not come down to pre strict gun law rates.

    As for “something else”, in Japan, I have mentioned this before: “police powers you and I would not accept”.

    monty you are just lying. Keynes has been discredited, over and over again. This has been the consistent finding of peer reviewed literature since Friedman’s permanent income hypothesis (1957) and Muth’s analysis of adaptive and rational expectations (1960). Let us be clear that Kydland and Prescott (1977, 1982) got their Nobel Prize for showing Keynesian policies cannot even be properly implemented without a command and control economy closed off to external trade and investment, then rebuilt macroeconomics from the ground up – I remind you that Keynes only ever studied half a semester of economics at university – and his General Theory rests upon what are simply miscalculations and sloppy arithmetic. The model of Kydland and Prescott model supports Austrian school economics. I know you are just trolling now because you can’t give me an example outside of the US WWII effort of the multiplier being greater than one let alone being positive only sometimes.

    You guys are toast.

  143. .

    PS monty

    The White Tiger field off Vietnam is abiotic oil (as are the nearby Black Lion, Bear and Bavi fields).

    The seabed is 1 km down, and the oil starts at 5 km down from the ocean surface. That 4 km of earth is granite bedrock. From there down, the oil is in pockets embedded in bedrock granite.

    Believing that prehistoric biological remains can explain not only conventional oil (entirely plausible, correct and may explain virtually all conventional oil) but also sub basement crystalline rock oil such as the White Tiger field is wishful thinking.

    From your ignorance, you buttress your bias and myopia.

  144. Stevec

    Sheldon, I didn’t assert anything. I questioned your statement that the death penalty was the major factor in the low murder rate. I asked for evidence. I suggested there were probably many other causes of equal or more effect. Initially you tried to deny that’s what you said. Now you have admitted that is what you said. You supplied ehrlich as evidence but his study does not back up your Assertion as simple arithmetic clearly shows.

    Are you now suggesting the death penalty is Japan has halved their murder rate?

    Perhaps your problem is dunning Kruger syndrome rather than aspergers

  145. .

    You asserted that the weapons ban was why their murder rate was low, as you called the alternative dumb and tried to make international comparisons, yet I’ve shown from British data that this is incorrect.

    You got evidence in spades of my statements.

    I have indulged you enough.

  146. Empire Strikes Back

    The pattern starts from his training as a right-wing economist, following all those zombie theories from classical economists who have been utterly discredited by empirical data since the 1930s.

    Peak stoopid in da haus.

  147. Wallace G. Dow, an AAPG member and consultant in The Woodlands, Texas, calls the Cuu Long oil “paraffinic, classic lacustrine crude” expelled into fractured basement from lower source rock.

    “The oils in the basement are virtually identical to the oils in the sandstone sitting around the basement,” Dow said.

    “This is the key — they migrate updip through faults into the basement, in horst blocks,” he said.

    Dow emphasized that the oil’s components indicate a lacustrine organic facies with lipid-rich, land-plant debris and fresh-water algal material, refuting theories of abiogenic origin in this area.

    It is ridiculously easy to refute your stupid assertions, Dot.

  148. .

    monty you haven’t proven that abioitic oil doesn’t exist, you have proven that it most likely coexists with bioitic sources.

    To conclude all your other theories are correct because you disagree with me on this reeks of superstition best left in 15th century eastern europe.

  149. Stevec

    Sheldon you are either incredibly stupid or just totally not self aware. Or maybe you just don’t get parody. I said “maybe” it’s the gun control. I also said maybe it’s the karaoke. But you don’t get it.

    But again based in your reference. Ehrlich predicts an increase of 50 Murders per year. What explains the other 950 to get to similar countries? Is one tenth of the variance “largely”?

  150. Stevec

    Sheldon – a side question, but related to your mental state. So you adhere to the German new medicine theory of

  151. .

    I said “maybe” it’s the gun control.

    You are blatantly dishonest and this has been shown to be false anyway.

    I mention the extraordinary (but unquantified) police powers but you keep on ignoring it. You think your own wilful ignorance amounts to me being dishonest.

    Weapons control does not matter as I have shown and as long as unemployment remians low, the sensitivity of capital punsihment is higher and is the largest factor in keeping the murder rate down.

    I have said this about five times in a row now.

    Largely is the adverb of large, and largest is the superlative form of large.

    Somehow you think a level of competence in English comprehension required by minimum wage workers or even kids entering high school is a form of dishonesty.

    you are either incredibly stupid or just totally not self aware

    Enough.

  152. .

    So you adhere to the German new medicine theory of Ryke hamer

    I have an open mind a theory which has been proven under lab conditions and canot be disproven and probably operates in parallel and inline with the alternative. I also disgaree with you on a law and economics issue because you assumed “largely” meant “majority” regarding the phenomena that can be quantified and you believe in assertions which the data does not bear.

    So you then accuse me of supporting crank medicine (which I’ve never heard of before) which costs lives, turns treatable cases into terminal cases and prolongs suffering?

    You are a despicable human being and you lack any sense of decency.

  153. SteveC

    I’m glad you don’t support GNM. I give you credit for that. I had a suspicion you were another poster I know.

    You are so slow:

    #1115335, posted on December 18, 2013 at 10:57 am
    Maybe it’s the strong gun control laws.

    So you still insist that the death penalty is the largest factor keeping the murder rate low in Japan. What evidence so you have for that statement? That’s the question I asked days ago, which you haven’t (can’t?) answer. Your Ehrlich evidence shows a reduction of 50 murders a year. You need to find a reason for the remaining 850. Or state that a reduction of 50 out of 900 is the “largest”.
    I have no doubt police powers in Japan are a large factor, perhaps the largest.

  154. SteveC

    Monty at 8.14. I thought your characterisation of Sheldon was harsh. But then he mentioned abiotic oil. I hadn’t heard of that before, so when I looked it up I found this. So he inadvertently confirmed your diagnosis.

  155. SteveC

    I have an open mind a theory which has been proven under lab conditions and canot be disproven and probably operates in parallel and inline with the alternative.

    I don’t know what you are referring to here.

  156. SteveC

    ah, apologies, that was a question “So do you adhere to the German new medicine theory of Ryke hamer?”. To which your answer is clearly “no”. Fair enough. I blame my iphone, but my mistake nonetheless.

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