It’s like believing in fairy tales

First there’s this from someone who thinks the planet may be warming and Australia is therefore in need of a massive expenditure program:

Most of the big investment houses are wilfully ignoring the risks that climate change will soon pose to their beneficiaries, and the Abbott government is making the same short-sighted mistake.

And then there’s this, called “Is a Big Chill on the Way?”, in which the number of sun spots in the latest cycle is shown to be falling.

sun activity

Here’s the text to go with the picture:

The monthly International Sunspot Number from the Solar Information Data Center (SIDC) of the Royal Observatory of Belgium was released December 1st. It fell to 77.6 spots/day.

Most newsworthy is that this is still the weakest solar max in over 200 years, well below NASA’s forecast. …

We may be witnessing the sun’s last dying gasps before entering into a long slumber. The impact of that slumber on Earth’s climate remains the subject of growing scientific speculation.

Global warming has never worried me but this does. You cannot take the global warming crowd seriously any more, but they will not go away until they are absolutely convinced that no more money will be placed in their begging bowls ever again.

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26 Responses to It’s like believing in fairy tales

  1. Token

    Global warming has never worried me but this does.

    If cooling is occuring, it is lucky humans are increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to offset the expected sharp decline plant yields that comes with an ice age.

  2. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    But, but … the science is settled!

    98% of scientists agree!

    Only the mad people and the henchmen of evil energy companies disagree!

  3. rebel with cause

    Alarmism is a many-headed Hydra though. If global warming is effectively disproven, the crowd will just move on to some other issue that requires vast amounts of research funding, conferences in exotic locations and policy prescriptions that reduce our freedoms. There is no shortage of chicken little’s who are willing to spend other people’s money to stop the sky falling in.

    Stay vigilant and never stop questioning the evidence.

  4. gabrianga

    Sh**! I have just sold off all my winter clothing buying all new shorts, tee shirts and thongs.

    Who can I sue?

  5. Bruce of Newcastle

    The AFR article is by lefty Australia Institute’s Richard Denniss.

    The same Richard Denniss who had to debate Monckton when the ABC was mousetrapped into it with wailing and much gritting of teeth. The result was as you might expect…Denniss waffled and completely failed to produce anything except handwaving whereas Monckton ate him for breakfast with citations to peer reviewed literature and actual data.

    As I have said many times the Sun and the oceanic cycles produced most of the temperature rise last century. As per this WUWT posting yesterday. Both forcings have now reversed course which is why we had snow in Cairo this week for the first time in a century, rare snow in Vietnam and why the northern US states are having their coldest December for decades.

  6. Rabz

    Can’t the Chicken Littles just start squawking about da global cooling? It’s not as if it’s stopped them before – just remember the global cooling hysteria in the seventies.

    They’re utterly shameless frauds, so I’m sure they’d have no trouble claiming that human economic activity was somehow contributing to this ‘new’ global cooling phenomenon.

    However, one very salient point remains – humanity has suffered greatly during periods of extended global cold, a lot more than they ever have under periods of warmer global temperatures.

  7. Mr Rusty

    Well if we’re heading into a cooling phase the equatorial regions are sounding good.

    Perhaps Abbott could seize on this as part of the “develop the North” thing; “We need to spend money combatting the coming global cooling which we believe is a 98% certainty, it is the great moral challenge, imperative to the survival of humanity, blah, blah, blah…”

    The leftards would be so bloody confused their heads would spin of their shoulders and bounce down the street.

  8. .

    Rabz #1115362, posted on December 18, 2013 at 11:19 am
    Can’t the Chicken Littles just start squawking about da global cooling? It’s not as if it’s stopped them before – just remember the global cooling hysteria in the seventies.

    Didn’t exist! Not all scientists agreed! Global warming has consensus! Your sources are not credible! There is no citation linked on wikipedia!

  9. H B Bear

    When is Stutch going to have Pommy backpackers in koala suits start handing out the AFR at train stations?

  10. Uber

    Yes, this lack of activity has been of concern for some time now. Let’s hope we’re not heading for a prolonged cold period.

  11. Token

    Yes, this lack of activity has been of concern for some time now. Let’s hope we’re not heading for a prolonged cold period.

    It is like when Goose was bloviating about the threat of inflation in ’07 & ’08 when Costello was warning of the signs of a sharp slowdown.

    The usual suspects are driving with their attention 100% focused on the rear vision mirror.

  12. manalive

    Here’s an interesting idea Dr Denniss, the first and foremost get rid of the carbon tax and the subsidies to useless so-called renewable energy sources of power that artificially load the electricity bills of consumers so that they can more easily deal with climate change™ in their own way.

  13. boy on a bike

    All you deniers will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

    Sincerely

    The ABC

  14. stackja

    The Maunder Minimum
    Early records of sunspots indicate that the Sun went through a period of inactivity in the late 17th century. Very few sunspots were seen on the Sun from about 1645 to 1715. Although the observations were not as extensive as in later years, the Sun was in fact well observed during this time and this lack of sunspots is well documented. This period of solar inactivity also corresponds to a climatic period called the “Little Ice Age” when rivers that are normally ice-free froze and snow fields remained year-round at lower altitudes. There is evidence that the Sun has had similar periods of inactivity in the more distant past. The connection between solar activity and terrestrial climate is an area of on-going research.

    Climate research is not settled it seems.

  15. Helen

    The next big thing is already happening, it is the illogical opposition to fracking.

    Also ocean acidification and farming stuffing the great barrier reef, and the absurd idea that an unnatural action such as insisting that estuarine lakes should be permanently fresh as in where the Murray ends up before going into the sea … there are stacks of things that need lefty attention.

  16. Fibro

    Global warming has never worried me but this does. You cannot take the global warming crowd seriously any more, but they will not go away until they are absolutely convinced that no more money will be placed in their begging bowls ever again.

    Hold tight Steve, they will find something else. It’s a generational lifestyle that is not going away any time soon.

  17. Tom

    A comment from the second link nails it:

    Wait, since when does the Sun have anything to do with the climate on Earth? And Sun spots? What a joke. It’s humans that cause the climate of Earth. If not, then how could the leftists confiscate wealth from the US and give it to other counties? They can’t tax the Sun or Sun spots, so climate change has to be caused by humans.

    Climate zombies happen to be disgusted by the human race, which makes their theft of public funds for their scam so much more justifiable to the sociopaths who are pocketing the proceeds.

  18. Token

    The next big thing is already happening, it is the illogical opposition to fracking.

    That an the illogical opposition to nuclear energy & fracking by those you try on the emotional imperative argument are the ways I stop the intellectual pygmies in their tracks.

    It is also fun to ask why they oppose the options which will allow us to take power and funds from those governments that fund radical islam.

  19. johninoxley

    If the money was only given to the so called “deniers” for so called research, the bedwetters would all be on that gravytrain. In most cases CAGW is the only time the bedwetters have had their day in the sun. For not much longer.

  20. Ant

    I’ve been calling it the Great Global Warming Racket for years.

    On 6 August 2009 I wrote on Bolt’s blog that the jig is up for Global Warming, several months before the Climategate Scandal broke.

    It was the height of the drought and the Vic state Labor govt was running around like headless chooks, as though we’d never had a drought before, ratcheting up billions in big water projects which HAVE BOTH TURNED OUT TO BE DUDS. At least if these complete dickheads had spent it on a new dam or 2 we’d have a couple of (full) lakes that would have some significant collateral benefit, but no, dams are one of the Global Warming religion’s Great Satans!

    And, federally, what about the Murry Darling Basin? Don’t hear about that crisis anymore, do we? They’ve moved on to other mirages.

    You simply can’t continue lying about something and expect all people to believe it and this racket has to be one of the monstrous lies in human history.

    Yet, many still believe.

    I have written here before that there are 3 types of Global Warming believers: Dreamers, Deceivers and Dummies.

    Dreamers are the greenies who want to live on the ‘Avatar’ planet Pandora. At one with the universe.

    Deceivers are those who know AGW is a racket, and they’re in there furiously manipulating whatever they can to stuff their bank accounts, sometimes thinking that the environment will benefit as a result, but too often they’re the snake oil salesmen who want to empty your pockets.

    And then there’s the Dummies. They’re the most problematic, because they’re the most numerous, the easiest to bribe over the short term and they vote.

    So, forget about trying to convince the first two categories. Their minds are in lockstep obedience to fantasy or profit.

    Concentrate on the third. The election this year was evidence of just how much change they can force once they decide to wake up.

  21. incoherent rambler

    Warming, cooling ? We know things change and from cave times until the 21st century we accommodated these changes by using energy. If we have abundant cheap energy supplies (e.g. fracking, nuclear, coal …) then humans are in a position to handle most of the very unpredictable scenarios.
    Problem is that we are on a path of making energy scarcer and more expensive.

  22. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I’m thankful I (and my children) live in an age of technological advancement. We can always keep warm with abundant energy (fossil fuels, coal-seam gas, natural gas, nuclear possibilities etc.) and use our plentiful energy to run other helpful things such as snow-plows and super-large greenhouses for growing our food. As I said on the coal-seam gas thread – we need to get fracking.

  23. Michel Lasouris

    This is the Best News I’ve had for a long time….imagine, real Christmas Card winters here in the Wheat belt!
    Albeit in July ….Only hope I live long enough to see it. Brings a whole new meaning to Winter Wheat!

  24. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    ps. As long as the greenies keep out of everyone’s way. I love my times beside a wood fire on rustic holidays in Tassie, which for me is an anachronistic pleasure, but the truth is that more and more Tasmanians can’t afford to heat their home in any other way (reversion to the methods used during the Little Ice Age), due to green lunacies. They could also have bigger and better hydro systems than they have if they weren’t charged a fortune for hydro power (due to greeie impositions) and if the greens, again, got out of the way.

  25. Andrew

    Santa Claus is a good analogy – St Nick did have some historical factual basis, but the version given to our kids is unrecognisable from the truth. Likewise, 0.8C of beneficial historical warming accompanying aerial plant food is true, but has been distorted to the point anybody producing actual satellite data is smeared as a denier.

  26. John of Vic

    I have a *tea leaf reading *app coming out soon. Much easier than counting sun spots or searching the oceans for hidden heat. You can panic people from the comfort of your own lounge, using your smart phone. Scan the bottom of your tea cup and post the results immediately to SM.

    *Buy your own tea.
    *Coffee drinkers miss out.
    * 99c

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