Open Forum: December 21, 2013

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  1. Details on the Coalition’s national War on Free Speech, which hopefully Tim Wilson will fight back against.

  2. Is an anus meant for a penis, Monty?

    Doesn’t have a very Christmass-y feel to it, that question.

    But in any event, I would have thought that mouths weren’t all that obviously “meant” for a penis either, yet I don’t read of many Catholic men fretting about that anymore, as long as it’s a female mouth.

    But, of course, CL and d-b will carry on as if Catholic teaching on what can go where and at what time has never changed. This is incorrect.

  3. H B Bear

    Even the Green-Left Weekly Radio Hour (Early Edition) formerly known as AM is having trouble believing in a revered mythical person at this time of the year.

  4. Gab

    monty links to the “monthy”. Hilarious.

  5. H B Bear

    SfB weighs into his specialist subject.

  6. Monty, try to participate without having recourse to homosexual tactics, circa 1985.

    It just doesn’t work anymore.

    I’m sure Steve from Brisbane will be glad to hear that, CL, seeing as it’s used against him in exactly the same manner every day on the Cat.

    The Duck Dynasty star said a man’s bottom is not meant for penises.

    Do you agree with this scientific statement or not? Just answer the question.

    I believe the usual rejoinder to that from gay men is along the lines of: if God didn’t want gay men to have anal sex, why did he make it feel so good? Seems like a valid point to me.

  7. Helen

    Hey Lizzie, I have had tennants and they always turned out not up to what they promised they would be. Silly me to take them at their word. Would have been lucky indeed to have you as a tennant. Yes we loooove gardening they said, eighteen months later no garden, all dead. No animals no sirreee, to find back door with deep scratch grooves scored from large dog claws.

    So I learned that a quick coat of paint and steam clean freshened up the places well, don’t expect them to care for place as you would your own, and cash the place when the market goes up. You have to be pragmatic, as you are. but these were investment places, not a home as such.

    How are the cooking lessons going? Do you have to cook for the au pairs or do they do for themselves? If you do, that’s quite a lot you have to feed, four kids, you and HIA and two girls.

    I don’t envy you, I am happy for you, secure in your love and life, as I am, but I do aspire to be in your financial position one day!

    Any way my WEB is involving mainly sleeping so far. We must have been running on empty for quite some time.

    Re your batty tree, some well placed slow acting poison would be my advice, with tree doctor visits to assess the mysterious lingering illness and eventual death of such tree.

  8. That’s irrelevant and subjective. The US Constitution has the XIV amendment containing the equal protection clause. s 116 of ours nearly had the same thing, and probably should have.

    Robertson is perfectly able to create more of his art, and publish it himself. A&E shouldn’t be forced by the state to broadcast it.

  9. Tom

    Pond scum links to Fucktard Media Industrial Complex’s Morrie’s Moron Menstruation. High-quality trolling.

  10. In the past two years alone, Coalition politicians have ended the right to silence in New South Wales, introduced on-the-spot anti-swearing legislation in Victoria, moved to ban secondary boycotts federally, drafted legislation to imprison internet trolls, passed ‘move on’ laws against union protestors, and personally intervened to ensure the artist Paul Yore was charged with child pornography offences. That’s before we even mention the diabolical ‘rights’ regime governing asylum seekers, or their personal proclivity for suing others for defamation, or the ever-encroaching restriction on what bureaucrats or the government-funded can say in public. In power the Liberals have chilled, attacked, and eaten away at freedom of speech and its attendant rights – in other words, they’ve done what they always do.

    I commend Tim Wilson for his future pronouncements against these abrogations of free speech perpetrated by Coalition governments.

  11. It should be pointed out that Brandis is from the libertarian wing of the Liberal Party, whereas Abbott is from the conservative side. Brandis appointing Wilson should be precursor to attacking Abbott’s fondness for anti-freedom conservative paternalism.

    But of course most here will take Abbott’s side, because this site is infested with conservatives, with libertarians in a distinct minority.

  12. dover_beach

    if God didn’t want gay men to have anal sex, why did he make it feel so good? Seems like a valid point to me.

    It seems that monty applies the same reasoning to donuts.

  13. Tom

    The pond scum now believes it’s bulletproof. Look at me — I’m shitting in your garden.

  14. JC

    I commend Tim Wilson for his future pronouncements against these abrogations of free speech perpetrated by Coalition governments.

    But you were okay with liars attempt to finkelstein, you fat turd.

  15. dover_beach

    It should also be pointed out that the two Liberal state premiers currently attacking the right to silence are pro-SSM.

  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Helen the girls take turns helping out strictly with the children and live in a separate flat. I don’t cook for them, occasionally they have taken pity in HIA and dropped him in a German ham hock all nicely cooked. Talk about give a dog a bone. Mrs Mum is short term, for Melbourne only, and thanks for suggestin her to teach me like her daughter. I am vastly upskilled acter only a few weeks ready.

  17. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Wretched phone does funny things. Apols.

  18. Geez JC, haven’t you got anything else other than that blatant lie?

  19. Gab

    if God didn’t want gay men to have anal sex, why did he make it feel so good?

    The gay lobbyists really do enjoy lashing out at God. Infantile.

  20. dover_beach

    BTW, I always find monty’s laboured – you can almost here him wheezing if you listen closely – attempts to create a rift between libertarians and conservatives.

  21. Gab

    BTW, I always find monty’s laboured – you can almost here him wheezing if you listen closely – attempts to create a rift between libertarians and conservatives.

    Yes however he never ever once spoke up when gillard wanted to Finkelstein the free press.

  22. .

    m0nty #1121358, posted on December 23, 2013 at 11:10 am
    That’s irrelevant and subjective. The US Constitution has the XIV amendment containing the equal protection clause. s 116 of ours nearly had the same thing, and probably should have.

    Robertson is perfectly able to create more of his art, and publish it himself. A&E shouldn’t be forced by the state to broadcast it.

    You are confused monty, and dead wrong.

    No one is forcing them to broadcast it. Furthermore it is their art as well. Finally they have the implied threat of coercion vis a vis obscenity and the like – the complete opposite of what you claim.

    You are wholly ingenuine on free speech.

  23. dover_beach

    I forgot to add: amusing.

  24. .

    It should be pointed out that Brandis is from the libertarian wing of the Liberal Party

    …and I’m from Atlantis.

  25. H B Bear

    The Jewish vanity press is a legitimate form of expression.

    Just ask David Marr.

  26. No one is forcing them to broadcast it.

    You lot are trying to apply coercion to get them to broadcast it, despite their view that it hurts their commercial interests.

    Finally they have the implied threat of coercion vis a vis obscenity and the like – the complete opposite of what you claim.

    Who is talking about obscenity laws? You’re being ridiculous, Dot.

    Face it, there is no argument about freedom of speech here. Everyone has exactly the same freedom of speech as before this started. This is merely the action of a free market in entertainment products. If you make certain kinds of speech against groups in society which have a lot of support, it will have commercial consequences. This is Adam Smith, not George Orwell.

    Come on, he said blacks were better off under Jim Crow laws. That is colossally stupid. Of course there was going to be a reaction.

  27. C.L.

    Details on the Coalition’s national War on Free Speech, which hopefully Tim Wilson will fight back against.

    I literally laughed out loud when I read this left-wing piece by somebody called Dick Cook.

    After all, the Liberal Party has spent almost 70 years as the political arm of the wowser movement …

    LOL.

    The Labor has launched wars against alcohol, tobacco, swearing and “offense”. Julia Gillard was the first ‘prime minister’ to ever attempt to ban a free press. Labor premiers introduced sniffer dogs and waged a jihad against pub rock.

  28. C.L.

    Steve compares women’s mouths to anuses.

    GLAAD compares womens vaginas to anuses.

    The misogyny of the left is something truly pathological to behold.

  29. egg_

    But of course most here will take Abbott’s side, because this site is infested with conservatives, with libertarians in a distinct minority.

    Your filter appears to be attuned to the most vocal.

  30. Tel

    The Duck Dynasty star said a man’s bottom is not meant for penises.

    Which is his personal opinion and he is entitled to that opinion.

    Do you agree with this scientific statement or not? Just answer the question.

    There’s nothing scientific about it.

  31. C.L.

    There’s nothing scientific about it.

    Just wow.

  32. Tel

    “Just wow.” is not a scientific statement either, nor any sort of statement for that matter.

  33. .

    You lot are trying to apply coercion to get them to broadcast it, despite their view that it hurts their commercial interests.

    No. I’m against the obscenity provisions, FCC etc.

    Your response to issues like that are to dismiss them out of hand.

    This is merely the action of a free market in entertainment products.

    No it’s not. Art is censored and the FCC etc has too much power.

    We can’t be sure of the motivations A&E had because of the shadow the FCC etc.

  34. dover_beach

    There’s nothing scientific about it.

    Really, so zoologists looking at mammalian gentilia are unable to fathom the relationship between the sexual organs? Just wow.

  35. Tel

    Zoologists will one and all tell you that we are what we are by accident. There is no “meant to be” in Evolution. What happens is what happens. If you can talk to God, then by all means ask him. If you get an answer then I don’t believe you.

  36. For Schoss (and any others interested) – PDF of the book I mentioned last night on the history of the American Rebellion as told by someone on the Loyalist side, in this case being the Chief Magistrate of Massachusetts.

  37. Dot, this is nothing to do with the FCC or obscenity laws. Your conspiracy theory is laughable.

  38. Arnost

    This is merely the action of a free market in entertainment products.

    Crap… The Duck guy said something that the majority of those watching the show would agree with BUT what allegedly offends a minority group (that would not be caught dead watching the show in any case). And the free market hasn’t even had a chance to operate here – the show is pulled before there the ratings can determine the true market response.

    Same as with Alan Jones and the “died of shame” episode, this is nothing else than activist blackmail – marshalling of the mindless morons to supress something inconvenient to the “cause”.

  39. If Robertson wants to continue his show on Fox or YouTube or wherever, he is completely free to do so. A&E should not be coerced by law to broadcast him.

  40. Arnost

    A&E should not be coerced by law to broadcast him

    A&E should not be coerced to NOT broadcast him. Full Stop.

  41. Helen

    Lucky with the german ham, all cooked, Lizzie. I have employed the odd person according to their national cuisine, only to find they cannot cook! So the Welsh dishes did not happen. The Estonian girls, though, did wonderfully, on the phone to granny in Estonia at night for instructions and presenting with calf liver pate and black bread, wild yeast risen slowly over three days. Of course granny said we just use packet ueast now, but it was good to see it in the old way. good tucker. so good, too, that there are still young people willing and able to cook thier natinal cuisine.

    Must go do some grocery shopping for christmas fare.

  42. C.L.

    The Duck guy said something that the majority of those watching the show would agree with BUT what allegedly offends a minority group (that would not be caught dead watching the show in any case).

    Interestingly (and ironically), the demographic that most agrees with Robertson is the African-American community.

  43. We still do Bacon cookies and Latvian cake, a couple generations removed from a (forced) migration during the second world war.

    Amusingly (and to great appreciation), my mother in law had a Latvian neighbour and took it upon herself to learn the tricks to making the bacon cookies, so we get them as a special at Christmas without having to do the work ourselves.

  44. egg_

    Helen
    #1121422, posted on December 23, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    Treated our US mate to baked ham with rhubarb glaze (amongst other dishes) last night.

  45. Arnost

    the demographic that most agrees with Robertson is the African-American community

    They will be the most Christian… true.

    It is interesting that just about all the sponsors that threatened to pull out have now re-affirmed their commitment to the show. And Walmart have sold out of Duck Dynasty products! Now that is the free market speaking.

  46. JC

    If Robertson wants to continue his show on Fox or YouTube or wherever, he is completely free to do so. A&E should not be coerced by law to broadcast him.

    So it’s okay to coerce A&E to take him off the air, but the other way around.

    You fat idiot, monster. You big fat idiot.

  47. stackja

    New Jersey couple suing realtor for using home as ‘play pad to have sexual relations’
    Suit says realtor committed the “ultimate breach of trust.”
    By Evan Bleier | Dec. 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    The Weiners say that on Dec. 27, their security cameras were recording when “Phelan and Lindsay kissed and hugged in the kitchen” and then “entered the master bedroom, undressed and proceeded to have sex on the Weiners’ bed.”

  48. Market pressure is not coercion. Anyone who argues that line and claims to be right wing needs to have a good hard look at themselves.

  49. srr

    AUSTRALIAN entertainer Rolf Harris is facing three additional sex assault charges involving two new alleged victims, one aged “seven or eight” at the time.

    …but who cares…

  50. Arnost

    Just noticed that the Seth Effricans capitulated to the Indian bookies… Professional sport today is a cess-pit.

  51. stackja

    Iceland’s hidden elves delay road projects
    Elf advocates have joined forces with environmentalists to urge the Icelandic Road and Coastal Commission and local authorities to abandon a highway project building a direct route from to the tip of the Alftanes peninsula, where the president has a home, to the Reykjavik suburb of Gardabaer. They fear disturbing elf habitat and claim the area is particularly important because it contains an elf church.

  52. stackja

    More seek help for amphetamines than booze AAP December 23, 2013 6:06AM
    Odyssey House released its latest annual report today, finding amphetamine use was up as heroin supply dwindled.
    It found addiction to amphetamines – including ice, speed or ecstasy – was the main substance of concern for a third of people seeking treatment, outstripping alcohol, cannabis and heroin for a second year.

  53. JC

    Market pressure is not coercion. Anyone who argues that line and claims to be right wing needs to have a good hard look at themselves.

    Fatboy, I know what da market pressures is all about. I was responding to your crap.

    Having said that, there is obviously a chilling effect on free speech, however you wouldn’t understand that because as you’ve always had difficulty understanding the concept of free speech.

    Tell us about the hard look you had at yourself when you continued to support the political party which introduced Finkelstien, you dishonest lardball.

  54. dover_beach

    Zoologists will one and all tell you that we are what we are by accident. There is no “meant to be” in Evolution. What happens is what happens. If you can talk to God, then by all means ask him. If you get an answer then I don’t believe you.

    Tel, the above doesn’t respond at all to my comment. And, anyway, zoologists constantly refer to function and development. BTW, the last two lines of yours were rather desperate and from what I’d judged up until now below you.

  55. Graeme Swann hints at dressing room rift after claiming players are ‘up their own backside’.

    There is the problem right there! If you’ve got your head up your arse, you can’t get the left elbow up and you tend to ‘fall’ across to the off a lot, making you susceptible to LBWs – Shane Watson has the same problem.

  56. srr

    Is there any body (State or media), that is game to give as much damning coverage of Agnostics, Atheists and Anti-Christs who have personal, social and financial investment in child sex industries, as there are all those willing to damn all Christianity for it’s enemy’s evils?

  57. egg_

    They fear disturbing elf habitat and claim the area is particularly important because it contains an elf church.

    Kokoda Kev Kardashian might roll up on the doorstep for an ‘elfie’?

  58. stackja

    Valley to address eviction order
    TVN Sunday, December 22, 2013 – 9:43 AM
    Moonee Valley Racing Club will address the issue that led to a woman being asked to leave its members reserve last Friday night.
    Club CEO Michael Browell said he was embarrassed by the situation that saw a young woman forced from the enclosure because she was deemed inappropriately dressed.
    Browell said the woman, wearing a stylish one-piece outfit, did comply with the club’s dress standards for its members and he wished the operations officer who asked her to leave had shown more discretion.
    He said he would speak to her and her boyfriend, who is a member of the club.
    News that the woman had been asked to leave the members sparked a frenzy of outrage over social media.
    “The club is very disappointed with what happened, but we will make it up to them,” Browell said.
    “We will speak to them both, but I can understand how disappointed they must feel.”

  59. JC

    Monst, Fatboy, Captain Spuds

    If you want to forget about all the bad memories of the beatings you’ve had here at the Cat and reboot, you can use shock therapy.

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304866904579270390834135678

  60. stackja

    MELISSA Bedford’s stylish one-piece would be accepted at Wimbledon and Royal Ascot – but was deemed inappropriate for a summer race meeting at Moonee Valley.

    Melissa Bedford and boyfriend Sam Thomson outside Moonee Valley. Source: Supplied pic linky

  61. C.L.

    Julia Gillard writes in the Guardian that she wants to tell the TRUTH at last!

    About the slush fund?

    About the race riot?

    Abour the dead asylum seekers?

    No.

    Tobacco’s ugly truth must be uncovered.

    She starts with a lie:

    The fight has not been won yet, but our plain packaging policy works and should be defended.

    In fact, it doesn’t work.

  62. Melissa Bedford and boyfriend Sam Thomson outside Moonee Valley. Source: Supplied pic linky

    Are they brother and sister? She looks fine, I guess; he is the one the fashion police should have kicked out.

  63. Better and better – I love that thing on Canberra from Tim Blair.

    I think it will be my Christmas blog page, actually.

  64. C.L.

    The dress was fine.

    More men should be thrown out of venues for their appalling, childish attire.

    Personally, I’d also throw out any man sporting designer stubble.

  65. jumpnmcar

    The next legal thing, RTDs, to get the ABC Outrage-o-meter into the super scary red zone ?

  66. C.L.

    Bob Brown: whales more important than endangered boat people, don’t trust the sneaky Jap:

    Minister Hunt ‘kowtowing to Japan’.

    The Abbott government is being accused of turning its back on Australian law by breaking an election promise to send a Customs vessel to monitor Japanese whalers in Antarctica.

    The government will send a plane to observe protesters and whalers in the Southern Ocean, not the purpose-built Customs ice-breaker vessel Oceanic Protector…

    But Mr Brown said the $150 million Oceanic Protector, which is patrolling at Christmas Island thousands of nautical miles away, should be on the job.

    ‘The government has got it to turn back the (asylum seeker) boats, but not the Japanese whaling boats,’ he said.

  67. johanna

    “But Mr Brown said the $150 million Oceanic Protector, which is patrolling at Christmas Island thousands of nautical miles away, should be on the job.

    ‘The government has got it to turn back the (asylum seeker) boats, but not the Japanese whaling boats,’ he said.”

    Excellent! I fail to see what the problem is here.

  68. C.L.

    Pinch me – is this still Australia or a Methodist police state?

    A new trend in alcohol sales is alarming police – they’re sachets of alcopops, which alcohol education groups fear say are aimed at young people.

    The sachets are easy to conceal in handbags or pockets, and police are so worried they’re looking at ways to try limit sales.

    The police certainly aren’t happy with the product. They say they’re exploring their options on how to influence its availability.

  69. Infidel Tiger

    The police certainly aren’t happy

    Eat a dick coppers. Your only job is to enforce the law, not to legislate.

    If we want your opinion and we most certainly don’t, we’ll give it to you.

  70. jumpnmcar

    Personally, I’d also throw out any man sporting designer stubble.

    Damn! thats all I normally have.
    I apologise for any injury or loss suffered, to others, by my naturally occurring facial hair of a certain length.
    Please do not hesitate to send a bill for compensation.

  71. JC

    Personally, I’d also throw out any man sporting designer stubble.

    Oh come on. I wear a stubble a few times a month and looks pretty good.

  72. jumpnmcar

    Pinch me – is this still Australia or a Methodist police state?

    ( pinch ) That was NZ.

  73. jupes

    She starts with a lie:

    No surprises there.

    What is slightly surprising, though not entirely unexpected, is that TLS keeps gobbing off when the far more sensible and dignified thing to do would be to keep her head down for a few years.

    Her political judgement remains appalling.

  74. C.L.

    I’m talking about blokes who wear a suit or even a dinner suit to a function with an intentionally clipped Charlie Pickering stubble beard. This is wankery of a high order.

  75. johanna

    Stubble makes your face look thinner – the shadow effect.

    Own up, chubbies :)

    PS – since having to shave every day would be an intolerable burden if I was a bloke, no crits from me about shaving habits.

    But if you wear ugly face hair, the chips will fall where they may …

  76. Uh oh. Philippa’s here. I think that means I have to stop talking about which genitals acceptably go where and up to what point (from a Catholic point of view.) A bit of a pity as there is a wealth of material that could be discussed in the article (with the enticing title “Marital Foreplay“), written by no one I know, but at least pointing out that different priests/theologians to this very day seem somewhat confused about the issue – some saying Aquinas must have meant you can do X up to point Y but not beyond; others saying that X is never acceptable.

    If only St Thomas Aquinas had access to Powerpoint and multimedia technology, this all could have made much clearer.

  77. JC

    Oh yea, anyone wearing a stubble with a suit or black tie deserves the noose.

  78. JC

    Stepford

    Can you please clear off for the festive season. We don’t need you here. Take monster with you too.

    Shoo..

  79. Not that often you see a family of whales down at the local Centrelink office garnishing their taxpayer funded lolly to send back to their whale relatives who need the cash to enrol in IED-Making 101, or Jihad For Beginners – A Reader, or a Certificate 3 in Decapitation. I’d say the allocation of Government resources is, on balance, about right.

  80. .

    this is nothing to do with the FCC or obscenity laws

    Yes, it does.

    If the FCC didn’t exist, there would be a genre of much more realistic, confronting reality shows. Perhaps even some more obscene ones.

    Art is not protected as free speech in America (or here) because of obscenity laws and the like. I have mentioned this before. You agreed, claiming the duck dynasty dude was free to produce his art elsewhere.

    It’s not his art, it is the network’s.

    Given the way that DOMA and Prop 8 have shown duck dynasty dude’ opinions reflect the market, your criticism is nonsense.

    Market pressure is not coercion. Anyone who argues that line and claims to be right wing needs to have a good hard look at themselves.

    We are saying there is more to it than that. You then contradict yourself about how protected under free speech art is, then proceed to say that we want to force A&E to show this series.

    No monty, we want them to have that as a choice free from the threat of coercion. Denying the medlling of the FCC in arts and media in recent decades is just absurd, paticularly calling it a ‘conspiracy’.

    You are simply ingenuine in your support of free speech. Your claim that we want A&E to be forced to run programmes is simply dishonest, inflammatory nonsense.

  81. Steve of Glasshouse

    Re the NJ couple and the real estate story; the real story is why someone would name their child Richard Weiner

  82. .

    Tobacco’s ugly truth must be uncovered.

    Yes. 1-2 cigarrettes a week does no harm.

    The reasons why tobacco is harmful is because of regulated, compulsory additives, poor drying practices (rich burning flues) and radiological molecules in the soil being taken up by plants.

    Smoking also takes a huge burden off mental health.

    Trying running a psych ward with no smoking. Or having trauma/emergency medical staff without it.

  83. egg_

    Re the NJ couple and the real estate story

    Open House: Shag pile…

  84. Gab

    Why oh why is SFB obsessed with discussing sex and how Catholics have sex? He really is very very creepy.

  85. … and whales are generally clean-shaven. No stubble – though Orcas do sport those very snappy tuxedos.

  86. Gab

    Oops, he doesn’t actually “discuss” it. Rather he sneers, belittles, judges and generally reports doctrine incorrectly.

  87. jumpnmcar

    Lol, What facial follicle length is acceptable to you ?

  88. Dan

    Dot, the Duck Dynasty fulla is not selling art. Considering the show is Reality based, he is more appropriately a broadcaster.

  89. JC

    Why oh why is SFB obsessed with discussing sex and how Catholics have sex? He really is very very creepy.

    I reckon it’s because he doesn’t get any. Understandable really.

  90. stackja

    Big retailers warned in NSW truck clampdown
    Date: December 22, 2013 SMH Jacob Saulwick Transport Reporter

    SMH December 23, 2013 print edition apology over Big retailers warned in NSW truck clampdown.

    Lawyers called Fairfax?

  91. Tel

    Yes. 1-2 cigarrettes a week does no harm.

    No measurable harm. There’s theoretical reasons to believe that if lots of cigarettes are harmful then a small number are also harmful, but at low levels no one can prove this with real data. Anyhow, it’s a decision for the individual what they want to believe and the type of risks they want to take.

    Everyone dies of something.

  92. Gab

    Sucked in Keysar Trad, you despicable pos. He lost his latest court attack on 2GB and has to pay all court costs.

  93. But in any event, I would have thought that mouths weren’t all that obviously “meant” for a penis either, yet I don’t read of many Catholic men fretting about that anymore, as long as it’s a female mouth.

    Ha, those stupid Frenchies, they make love with their faces, ha ha ha.
    Good grief.

    Christian Brothers College survivor?

  94. jumpnmcar

    According to the 2011 ABS results ” Colon, sigmoid, rectum and anus cancer ” was the 7th highest cause of fatality.
    My theory:- ABC/left media blowing so much smoke up our arses.

  95. kae

    Trad is a slippery character.

    Comes with the territory.

  96. jupes

    Sucked in Keysar Trad, you despicable pos.

    Good stuff Gab. Got any links.

  97. jupes

    No measurable harm.

    No measurable harm is no harm.

  98. Santa turns liberal.

    Turns out PJ O’Rourke was right all along – Santa Claus is a Democrat.

    Well and truly time for an air strike on the North Pole.

  99. Why oh why is SFB obsessed with discussing sex and how Catholics have sex? He really is very very creepy.

    One word, Gab:

    Validation.

  100. Tom

    Labor luvvee watch:

    A NEWLY appointed Supreme Court judge, accused of colliding with a cyclist while drunk, will face an Adelaide court in January.

    Justice Anne Bampton, 51, is charged with driving with excess blood alcohol and driving without due care on November 30, just days before she was officially appointed to the Supreme Court of South Australia.

    Ceremonial activities to mark her appointment were cancelled.

    She allegedly recorded a blood alcohol level of 0.12 after the collision on the Saturday morning.

    Bampton, who previously served as a district court judge for three years, is not hearing matters related to drink-driving in her new position.

    She is due to appear in the Adelaide Magistrates Court on January 15.

  101. johanna

    Philippa – do you have a link or reference for the P J O’Rourke article?

    When he hits his straps (which is less often these days, sadly) he is superb.

  102. JimD

    Further reading from Toms’ Labor luvvie watch link/

    A BLOWOUT in the dole queue will force the Abbott government to target family payments as it cuts the nation’s $132 billion welfare bill.

    The number of Australians on the dole has jumped 20 per cent in a year, to reach 800,587 in October, the latest official data reveals.

    The global financial crisis has tipped an extra 307,829 Australians onto the dole queue since May 2008.

    And 821,738 working-age Australians are now living on the disability support pension.

    The Tele needs an accurate business editor.
    The global financial crisis hasLabor/Union fuckwits have tipped an extra 307,829 Australians onto the dole queue since May 2008. Fixed it for you Rupert.

  103. Tom

    I’m excited by the story that JC drew our attention to earlier, which has now been picked up by The Australian – great new technology that has multiple applications at the JC Lefty Suicide Hotline, for example:

    SCIENTISTS have used electroconvulsive therapy to erase distressing memories in people, part of an ambitious quest to better treat ailments such as mental trauma, psychiatric disorders and drug addiction.

    Patients in the experiment were first shown a troubling story, in words and pictures. A week later they were reminded about it and given electroconvulsive therapy. It completely wiped out their recall of the distressing narrative.

  104. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I’m with you Johanna on the tyranny of the razor that men, ahem, face daily.
    What a nightmare for them. Plus all of that other unruly sprouting.
    It’s enough to drive them to drink. So they do. :)

  105. Tom

    Cats are reminded that we’re now in the pre-Christmas Forgettery Dump, the black hole after most people have knocked off for the year where political staffers attempt to hide bad news stories. Extra brownie points for spotting them.

  106. JimD

    Tom@ 4.21pm
    Someone’s either senile, demented or already had this-
    Asylum keepers have been zapping nutjobs’ brains for zonks.

  107. egg_

    She allegedly recorded a blood alcohol level of 0.12 after the collision

    If that pesky cyclist hadn’t got in the road all would have been fine… /sarc

  108. jupes

    Global sea ice is very close to a lazy one million sq kms ABOVE the 1979 – 2008 mean.

    Must be the ‘carbon’ tax working its arse off.

  109. JimD

    If that pesky cyclist hadn’t got in the road all would have been fine… /sarc
    BOABs do tend to be a hazard, both traffic and otherwise.

  110. I’m with you Johanna on the tyranny of the razor that men, ahem, face daily.
    What a nightmare for them. Plus all of that other unruly sprouting.

    I shave every night before bed – rather than every morning. I never know when Frau Shoss may hanker after my charms so better to be non-itchy, just in case. Work can, or could, screw itself.
    As for the ‘other unruly sprouting’. It is a sad fact that as men get older, hair grows thickest on the brows, in the ears and up the nose. The trick, men, is to not run away when she appears with tweezers in hand and a determined look on face. Submit. The pain subsides over time … eventually.

  111. jupes

    Steyn tears his editor a new arsehole.

  112. johanna

    ” What a nightmare for them. Plus all of that other unruly sprouting.”

    Indeed. I’ve never watched The Simpsons much, but vividly remember a scene where Homer, having exfoliated his face, lathered up the tops of his shoulders and shaved them.

    And let’s not get started on ears and nostrils. A while back I ran into a chap that I seriously lusted after when we were at uni (he had a girlfriend that he was besotted with). Anyway, not only had he lost most of the hair on his head, his nostrils were so clogged that it was a miracle that he could breathe.

    When people went to see “Hair” in the 60s and 70s, I wonder if they realised what it meant?

  113. Steyn tears his editor a new arsehole.

    No, no. This is a writer tearing a sub-editor a new one. (Don’t link so the C+P will have to suffice.) Apologies in advance for reproducing the use of the C-word by Coren – I have amended.

    From: Coren, Giles
    Sent: 10 August 2002 16:41
    To: James, Anita
    Cc: Wells, Dominic
    Subject:

    The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. how fucking difficult is that? it’s the sentence that bestrides the fucking book i reviewed for you. it is the sentence i wrote first in my fucking review. it is 35 fucking letters long, which is why i wrote that it was. and so some useless c**t sub-editor decides to change it to “jumps over A lazy dog” can you fucking count? can you see that that makes it a 33 letter sentence? so it looks as if i can’t count, and the c**ting author of the book, poor mr dunn, cannot count. the whole bastard book turns on the sentence being as i fucking wrote it. and that it is exactly 33 letters long. why do you meddle. what do you think you achieve with that kind of dumb-witted smart-arsery? why do you change things you do not understand without consulting. why do you believe you know best when you know fuck all. jack shit.

    that is as bad as editing can be. fuck, i hope you’re proud. it will be small relief for the author that nobody reads your poxy magazine.

    never ever ask me to write something for you. and don’t pay me. i’d rather take £400 quid for assassinating a crack whore’s only child in a revenge killing for a busted drug deal – my integrity would be less compromised.

    jesus fucking wept i don’t know what else to say.

  114. stackja

    johanna
    #1121615, posted on December 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm
    Philippa – do you have a link or reference for the P J O’Rourke article?
    When he hits his straps (which is less often these days, sadly) he is superb.

    Google search:
    P. J. O’ROURKE INTERVIEW By JF Beck Apr 09, 2009 12:00AM UTC
    P.J. O’Rourke · October 4, 2012 at 3:55pm

  115. johanna

    Shoss – gold.

    Giles Coren is the kind of writer I can happily read even if he is explaining plumbing.

  116. stackja

    When people went to see “Hair” in the 60s and 70s, I wonder if they realised what it meant?

    pubic in public

  117. calli

    I would like to use that letter as a template for numbskulls who change my designs…but the need for future work (and payment) precludes me.

    Giles, I feel your pain. Also, Giles seemed much happier in the Supersizers series. Perhaps he just needed a dish of larks tongues to cool down the simmer.

  118. johanna

    Thanks for the P J link, Stack.

  119. stackja

    johanna
    #1121676, posted on December 23, 2013 at 5:20 pm
    Thanks for the P J link, Stack.

    You are welcome.

  120. All subs are semi-illiterate arseholes … until you join the subs’ desk, then all journos are semi-illiterate arseholes. Mind you, Giles had a fairly good point, which he put in a, um, succinct and forthright manner. Legend.

  121. Rabz

    These threads grow like weeds.

    I’ve just read page 4 and can’t get through this page as I have other things to do.

    Thanks for the heads up about Sydney’s legendary traffic and humidity, though, Lizzie.

    I’m heading up there tomorrow, so will be wary. Should make the bay run fun on Christmas morning.

  122. egg_

    From a Lefty blog:

    Last night for example … witnessed an ABC news service on the main channel at 7 pm which was astonishing, and vastly comic.

    Cues were routinely off, stories misplaced (yes that story about the cricket wasn’t a story about the Sudan or Clive Palmer or even the ghost who walks), inserts weren’t trimmed, there was dead air, dead vision, a hopeless mash-up that even an eleventh eleven on a concrete wicket would consider an epic failure…

    This was the national broadcaster in prime time, and what a sorry sight it was, yet … wouldn’t exchange Aunty with all its foibles and flops for a lifetime subscription to Foxtel and every Murdoch rag in the land…

    The hapless presenter had the decency to look embarrassed, but it wasn’t her fault, it was the fact that they’d put a set of loons in charge of the computers that was the real problem…

    It was beyond satire, beyond irony, and … now profoundly regrets not running the PVR over it. We could have taken it down and given it a play whenever gloom or depression threatened.

    Amateur is the word – the techs have likely been cut to bone whilst the scribblers wax lyrical.
    Defund the thing and let it die a merciful, natural death.

  123. johanna

    While not being a Christian, I have long regarded Christian choral music as great and inspiring. In wishing all Cats the greetings of the season, here is a short, but magnificent rendering of “Rejoice” for your enjoyment.

  124. From a Lefty blog:

    Almost convinces you that English is a dead language, written with a trowel.

  125. kae

    Hair, like weight, is never really lost.

    It just redistributes itself around the body.

    (Note, weight just redistributes itself around the universe.)

  126. Leigh Lowe

    Personally, I’d also throw out any man sporting designer stubble.

    …. and brown shoes with a navy suit. That should be a crime.

  127. egg_

    Almost convinces you that English is a dead language, written with a trowel.

    What of plagiarism by the world’s 10th ranked blog?

  128. Infidel Tiger

    Steyn tears his editor a new arsehole.

    Well deserved. Steyn should demand the little shit be fired on decency grounds.

  129. What of plagiarism by the world’s 10th ranked blog?

    You’ve lost me Goog. Have I pinched something from somebody?

  130. Aliice

    Dot – really re BMR

    They’re selling cyanide as cocaine or ecstacy?

    This sounds awful.

    Yes they are

  131. Aliice

    Dot also

    But even the feds must know their job would be made a lot easier by banning bitcoin.

    You simply can’t do this. There’s the rub.

    Bullshit Dot – one of the smarter nations (China) just did it and the ugly thing sank 50% in value. Keep sinking Bitcoin nation by nation. Its NOT that hard at all.

  132. Tintarella di Luna

    Hi Aliice, how goes it? sending my best wishes to you and hope life is getting back on track. Take it easy

  133. kae

    The batts debacle.

    Not only did four people die and houses burn down, there’s the little matter of the frauds committed – for example, a home owner applies to get the insulation installed only to find that apparently he’s already had it installed. The government has already paid a rebate for his address to have the insulation installed.

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