PVOs watch list for 2014

Peter van Onselen has put out a pollie watch list for 2014. So he has 5 on the up and 5 on the down. It is the on the down choices that I’m interested in.

First he nominates Wayne Swan – but Swan has more or less disappeared from public life, if not actually the Parliament, when Julia Gillard lost office. PVO does suggest that Swan might be snapped up by the private sector. Surely not [see update]. The only people who could credibly employ him would be some union dominated super fund.

PVO also nominates the shadow ministry.

The collective of ageing shadow ministers who should have retired when the Labor government lost. It is remarkable how many former ministers past their prime stayed on to hog frontbench spots which should have gone to the likes of Nick Champion, Stephen Jones and Ed Husic. Expect a few to fall away next year, as they realise opposition ain’t much fun.

This is correct. These are the people to watch because much the same thing happened after 2007. The then Coalition shadow ministry had the same problem. But as it became clearer that opposition was going to be a short term proposition the older members didn’t retire and make space, but hung in there. If the now shadow ministry starts retiring then that reveals their expectations as to returning to government later rather than sooner.

So far all good.

Then:

George Brandis or Christopher Pyne: Neither probably will fall from grace, but both have had poor starts as ministers. 2014 will either see them find their feet, or the mistakes will pile up and Abbott will need to act. The former is more likely for both men, but they will be closely scrutinised next year.

on Christopher Pyne I agree. While I think dumping Gonski would have been good policy, he completely fluffed the implementation.

What of George Brandis? I can’t see him being in the same category as Pyne. I don’t perceive him as having had a poor start. So I asked PVO on twitter what the story is. PVO nominates three areas where Brandis is vulnerable. Entitlements, hypocrisy, and not abolishing the Human Rights Commission.

So we’re in full agreement on not abolishing the Human Rights Commission.

It is hard to get too excited about the entitlements thing. We covered it here at the Cat at the time and it is disgraceful and politicians should be paid in cash and all that. Okay – but I’m not convinced that Brandis is uniquely vulnerable in this area. Ultimately there is no real political cost in this area. If criminality come be demonstrated then it is a different story – but exploiting vague rules may cause a temporary stink and excite journalists and bloggers but I doubt there is any long-term cost here.

Then PVO and Brandis have been exchanging barbs in The Australian over hypocrisy and the meaning of partisanship. That is pure self-indulgence on PVOs part. Nobody cares. More importantly that isn’t the risk Brandis faces in 2014.

The risk Brandis faces in 2014 is that the political left succeeds in discrediting Tim Wilson. I have no doubt they will give it a red-hot go. If they succeed an already overly cautious government will become more cautious. If they fail the Abbott government may acquire more of a backbone.

Update: PVO tweets to say I’ve mis-read his comment about Swan. Yes I have. Sorry.

Wayne Swan: It is hard to see why Swan would even want to continue on in politics. He won’t be returning to the frontbench, in government or in opposition. A by-election would be likely if Swan gets snaffled up somewhere in the private sector … then again, maybe he is more likely to keep languishing on the backbench.

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114 Responses to PVOs watch list for 2014

  1. Rabz

    hog frontbench spots which should have gone to the likes of Nick Champion, Stephen Jones and Ed Husic.

    Stephen Jones? FFS, von Wrongsolen is a plastic turkey.

  2. Tel

    Swan might be snapped up by the private sector.

    He does have some rather unique accounting skills. Perhaps a large and progressive energy company might find him useful? Just a suggestion.

  3. Mike Farrell

    What is Christopher Pyne really guilty of, other than being a smart arse. It was the ALP that rebanked the $1.2 billion from Conski. It is the ALP that will force the LNP to spend an extra $2+ billions on unis. All he attempted to do was take advantage of their fiscal manipulations.

    As for Brandis – the guys a legend. He’s a lawyer and law subscriptions dont come cheap. I’d expect a lawyer to have a library, especially a shadow Attorney-General and Queen’s Counsel. Let’s give him time – shit – he’s only been in power 100 days.

  4. Sinclair Davidson

    When Brandis repeals 18C then he will be a legend.

    Pyne is a smart arse and it suited him as opposition manager. But he had also been shadow education minister for a long time. Now the Libs are never going to “win” on education, but to lose so comprehensively isn’t a good move. He lost IMHO because he wasn’t prepared.

  5. .

    I want to know what Gillian Triggs spends on her reference material.

    Probably not much. She does fuck all.

  6. Rob

    That is pure self-indulgence on PVOs part.

    Isn’t that a tautology?

  7. .

    Pyne is a smart arse and it suited him as opposition manager. But he had also been shadow education minister for a long time. Now the Libs are never going to “win” on education, but to lose so comprehensively isn’t a good move. He lost IMHO because he wasn’t prepared.

    Is it that hard to point out how wasteful the education system is?

    If he does that and the message gets through, he will set up a lot of successful reforms.

  8. harrys on the boat

    Lets be honest PVO rivals m0nty in the arse clown stakes.

  9. Rabz

    Now the Libs are never going to “win” on education, but to lose so comprehensively isn’t a good move. He lost IMHO because he wasn’t prepared.

    They ‘lost’ because they’re a bunch of softcocks who weren’t prepared to kill Gonski stone cold dead* while they had the opportunity. Gonski was and is indefensible.

    Pyne is a lightweight, mediocre moron and an extremely unimpressive one at that. At least Brandis has some semblance of gravitas.

    *NaDT

  10. candy

    Chris Pyne may be in the wrong portfolio. He does come across as a smart a*se. He doesn’t seem to care enough or show he cares and education is an emotive issue, if I can put it like that.

  11. Honesty

    Sinc, this was just the usual poorly written peice. For example re Swan “may be a by-election” of course there will, not may and what has by-elections got to do with the point of the article? Then Brandis’ library is just a cheap shot trying to tar him with waste, again what has this got to do with the central premise of the peice?

    Why support PVO drivel, the guy is not an intellect he is a reverse poor mans Glenn Beck. PVO’s appearances on the Cat are only ever for derision and a laugh why elevate him? When he can actually do some leg work and real political analysis maybe but I doubt that will ever happen.

  12. H B Bear

    The Goose snapped up by the private sector? He would be lucky to get a job as a clinical trials volunteer or a stop and go lollipop man. Van Wrongselen continues to live up to expectations.

  13. Tom

    While I think dumping Gonski would have been good policy, he completely fluffed the implementation.

    Nonsense. Pyne hasn’t “fluffed the implementation” because it’s 113 days since the election and he hasn’t implemented anything. The real game begins with the May budget.

    How has Pyne weathered the gotcha shitstorm from the headless media howler monkery? Adequately.

    With Brandis, keep the culture wars in perspective. While undoubtedly crucial to the conservative-voting heartland, they don’t engage the broad mainstream. It’s just sport for political junkies.

  14. Sinclair Davidson

    Perhaps a bit to harsh on PVO. He does try too hard to be even handed and like everyone who has to fill a regular column sometimes has clangers. But he isn’t unique in that regard.

  15. Honesty

    Pyne is perfect for the Education portfolio just as Ruddock was for immigration. They drive the lefties absolutely cock on fire crazy and are impervious to their insults which drives them even more crazy. It is a beautiful thing. He was told to drop Gonski (an impossible task without breaking a promise) he did it without complaint, he did his best, he didn’t complain when they back flipped either. He is who you need in the trenches with the left and he will take out machine gun nest after machine gun nest.

  16. Rabz

    The Goose snapped up by the private sector?

    To paraphrase IT, in a properly ordered society, the Goose would be “serving da communidy” as a speed hump.

  17. Gab

    the Goose would be “serving da communidy” as a speed hump.

    He’d even stuff that up and cause traffic jams.

  18. Honesty

    Sinc have you forgotten PVO on Agenda saying to Gillard “I believe you, you have done nothing wrong” what sort of journalist is that? He is as bad as Riley. And as for the Xmas puff peice the top ten lists are as easy as they come and he still fluffed it. Finish your turkey enjoy the Xmas love but a spade is a spade and PVO is the Oprah of Skynews.

  19. stackja

    The ALP, a disaster, end of discussion.

  20. Honesty

    Swan as a backbencher in Oppostion is the equivalent to the “kick me” sign on a students back. Labor know its there but are still too stupid to take it off. Hockey gives them a kick every time he gets up in question time.

  21. Sinclair Davidson

    The Gillard thing was a bit too syrupy for my liking. Time will resolve uncertainty there. I keep hearing she’ll be charged. If so, a lot of journos will be looking a bit sick. But, to date, it hasn’t happened.

  22. candy

    PVO seems to have no time for Bill Shorten. You’d think he’d be all over him like a rash, given the recent rise in the ALP fortunes poll-wise.

  23. gabrianga

    The “Global Warming Society” and it’s supporting Guardian and BBC media are at least partially funded by the Australian taxpayer.

    The additional costs of recuing including failed attempts by French and Chinese icebreakers look like an “extra” that will no doubt be prised from the ever generous Governments

    Perhaps Flannery ,Gore and Co could offer help?

  24. ar

    Dunno why the govt isn’t more focussed on constantly attacking Swan and his record. If he won’t do the decent thing and resign then shame him out the door.

  25. incoherent rambler

    saying to Gillard “I believe you, you have done nothing wrong”

    I keep hearing she’ll be charged.

    It is public knowledge that Police investigations have been underway for some time.
    Investigations into Australian politicians have a history of dragging on until the target of the investigation is either dead or is on the last legs of a terminal disease.

  26. Tintarella di Luna

    Everybody keeps talking about Gonski as if it is is real. The Report by Gonski might have just been a small turkey until the helicopter hands of the harridan from hades turned it into a camel. Gonski did not exist, it was a series of agreements with separate states, hardly the national funded scheme envisioned by David Gonski.

    Christopher Pyne was not unprepared, he was very well prepared, he’d been shadow minister for education in Opposition, worked very hard and would have dumped the ephemral Gonski except for the soft-cocks in the Liberal party. Gonski is a myth, just like Gillard is a myth and the myth-makers still have the agenda and that is the problem.

  27. steve

    Gillard is being investigated but the system will be used to get her off. The system is screwed. There is no justice for all. Rafiki told me.

  28. JC

    I make this promise. If Shane Wand goes to the private sector as a board member and the stock is listed, I will short that stock. I also predict I will make decent money from the position.
    Any firm that took on that oxygen thief should fire the board.

  29. Tintarella di Luna

    PVO seems to have no time for Bill Shorten

    Could it be because Shorten is under a long dark cloud? No surely PVO believes Bill has done nothing wrong too.

  30. Calm down JC, there’s no more chance of Swan being snapped up by the private sector than there is of Keating receiving job offers.

  31. Norma

    Why the hell does anyone bother reading PVO’s predictions on ANY bloody thing?
    When Gillard replaced Rudd, this super-smart-arse predicted she would not only win the next election, but increase Labor’s margin.
    He is the wasted bit of my subscription to the OZ. But Henry compensates. He has a new rival though, in Grace. Is she permanent I wonder?

  32. JC

    Calm down? Stevie, go stock the beer kegs and shut up.

  33. Calm down? Stevie, go stock the beer kegs and shut up.

    Touch sensitive there JC. What’s the matter, going blind with all that fruitless rooting around in Quiggin’s archives?

  34. steve

    PVO lost me when he tried to be bff with Gillard. He “knows” she has done nothing wrong. Refused to even discuss the AWU fraud. I know he is a professor Sinc, but the man is a legend in his own lunchbox. He is a David Speers that thinks he has a sense of humour and sometimes he makes John Faine look like he has joined the Tea Party.

  35. JC

    Stevie

    I’ve found the offending comments and now just waiting for you to make a wager, which is what I’ve repeatedly suggested a number of times and you willfully ignore, you dishonest, deceitful scoundrel.

  36. I’ve found the offending comments and now just waiting for you to make a wager, which is what I’ve repeatedly suggested a number of times and you willfully ignore, you dishonest, deceitful scoundrel.

    In other words, you’re a lying arsehole, and haven’t found anything.

    Put up or shut up.

    Lying deadshit.

  37. Odds please and bet limit.

    A gutless lying deadshit.

    On top of being an arsehole.

    You’re a wanker JC.

  38. JC

    Stevie

    You’re fluffing up a lot of dust, or in your case sand, to avoid the obvious.

    Just put out some odds along with a bet limit and this sorry event in your history will never be repeated again.

    And knock the abuse as this isn’t that sort of site.

  39. jupes

    … hog frontbench spots which should have gone to the likes of Nick Champion, Stephen Jones and Ed Husic.

    What? No talented up-and-coming ALP women PVO?

  40. JC

    What? No talented up-and-coming ALP women PVO?

    I think he assumed we all know about the heroin importer’s wife being up there in the talent department.

  41. jupes

    I read an article in the Oz the other day written by Karl Rove. He listed his 15 predictions that he had made 12 months ago and he scored 10 correct, 4 incorrect and 1 50/50.

    Australian journos and political pundits seem quite happy to make predictions but I don’t recall any reviewing their own performance 12 months later.

  42. And knock the abuse as this isn’t that sort of site.

    Said without any irony by JC (bullshit artist and lying arsehole)

    JC, you lied. And don’t know how to back down. Tough luck.

    Lying arsehole. The hat fits, wear it.

  43. JC

    Stevie, let me repeat the obvious. If you think I’m lying and there’s nothing there, then I’m giving you an opportunity to make some decent cash instead of throwing sand around.

    We can escrow too. Stop being a douchebag and make the odds and limit. We could even use bitcoin as a first at the Cat… we’re trailblazers here.

    If you’re just going to abuse me for making a perfectly reasonable suggestion, just copy and paste it from above saving you time.

  44. will

    Calm down you 2.

    BTW I would like to see the evidence JC claims to have found.

  45. Token

    Perhaps a bit to harsh on PVO. He does try too hard to be even handed and like everyone who has to fill a regular column sometimes has clangers.

    You are kind to read his articles. For someone who is given a lot of prime air time with key pollies, he has an appallingly low strike rate for making news.

    No one outside of the lunar left has taken him seriously since that craven & inept interview with Gillard where he made Paul Kelly look courageous.

  46. If you’re just going to abuse me for making a perfectly reasonable suggestion,

    JC, there is nothing reasonable about you.
    You accuse me of some transgression from years & years ago, on some other blog site, mouth off about it no end in an unhinged manner, make a laughing stock of yourself by claiming to be going for evidence.

    Then when challenged on this, you dry up, claiming that the (cough) “evidence” has been “located” but you are hoarding it, pending some way to wangle a non-existent financial gain from it.

    You are full of shit.

  47. Token

    What? No talented up-and-coming ALP women PVO?

    It must be mysogony by PvO, as Hendo has noted he doesn’t like appearing on TV with capable women (by contrast to Paul Murray who finds them in spades).

    BTW, compare what quotas got the Liars Party against Susan Ley, Michaela Cash & Kelly O’Dwyer.

  48. Viva

    I never read anything PVO writes or listen to anything he says.

  49. Calm down you 2.

    Hehe, nobody’s uncalm Will, fear not. But in an unprovoked/unprompted move that almost defies belief, JC does seem to have made a rather spectacular unforced error.

  50. Woolfe

    No one outside of the lunar left has taken him seriously since that craven & inept interview with Gillard where he made Paul Kelly look courageous.

    PVO blocked me on Twitter when I pointed this, and the fact he seemed to make news from ALP press releases to him.

    I thought twittter was a way to communicate not to just be used as a megaphone?

  51. Token

    Woolfe that is a clear sign of a lightweight.

    You can criticise her politics all you like, but Latika Bourke never indulges in juvenile blocking of people who are critical but not abusive.

  52. Token

    If you are ever in dialogue with PvO, honour the demand he made in 2010:

    HERE is my prediction and I am well aware I will be held to account for it. Julia Gillard won’t just win the next election, she will increase Labor’s majority.

    Kevin Rudd was Labor’s biggest problem, not the policies his government has enacted, not the personnel in his parliamentary team. The published polls and the internal party polling all showed Rudd had become a drag on Labor’s vote.

    Note how in touch he is with the electorate?

  53. steve

    The bottom line is this: The Australian reported fascinating new information on a 17-year-old matter, which of itself is a testament to the investigative abilities of those involved. However, without something new and startling, there is no smoking gun. Peter Van Onselen in the Australian August 25th 2012

    What would it take, PVO? Are the Victorian Police on a witch hunt?

  54. steve

    Of course, I use the word “witch” in a non-misogynistic manner, Juliar.

  55. Notafan

    I am confident Mr Brandis and Mr Pyne will be sitting comfortably on the front bench for quite a while yet. Gonski and NDIS were announced becuuse Labor knew they were never going to have to find the money for them. ATARs for teaching courses are so low that they are not even attracting good ordinary players. My children’s contemporaries who are recent teaching graduates I wouldn’t want anywhere near a classroom. The female dominance of teaching and curriculum have a lot to answer for.

    The best thing Mr Pyne could do for teaching is bring in a voucher system.

  56. .

    One of these days I’m gonna get generous and buy JC and Steve XXXX couple of blunts, or in the least some kaava.

  57. .

    I feel the same way as you, not a fan.

    To me, the solution is taking the focus off the artificial importance of credentials for employment and institutionalised schooling in general.

  58. Jo Smyth

    Could never understand why PVO was ever allowed to host any show. He never allows anyone to talk for more than 10 seconds, continually interrupts and then proceeds with his own long winded opinion. All the hallmarks of a true leftie.

  59. Dan

    The bottom line is this: The Australian reported fascinating new information on a 17-year-old matter, which of itself is a testament to the investigative abilities of those involved. However, without something new and startling, there is no smoking gun. Peter Van Onselen in the Australian August 25th 2012

    How did the editor let that one through?

  60. Notafan

    I have recently discovered the rise of credentialism. It was mentioned particularly in relation to Tim Wilson’s qualification for the HRC. On the other hand just about any sciency degree qualifies one to be a Climate Scientist looking at Flannery and Suzuki.
    I have also read that voting for Mr Abbot precludes one from even having an option on climate science.

  61. One of these days I’m gonna get generous and buy JC and Steve XXXX couple of blunts, or in the least some kaava.

    Dot, yuck! That stuff is like drinking Cepacol.

  62. whyisitso

    Perhaps a bit to harsh on PVO. He does try too hard to be even handed and like everyone who has to fill a regular column sometimes has clangers. But he isn’t unique in that regard.

    He’s a self-regarding far lefty. I’m surprised at you taking his side, Sinc. He lost me years ago with the shit he laid on Julie Bishop because she delegated the task of contributing to his book to someone else. Who does this wanker think he is? Like the left he is full of moral and intellectual vanity and self-importance.

    As for trying hard to be even-handed – Sinc, you must know that’s just bullshit!

    I see you drifting leftwards, Sinc – just like your predecessor jtfSoon who masqueraded as a right-winger.

  63. I have recently discovered the rise of credentialism. It was mentioned particularly in relation to Tim Wilson’s qualification for the HRC. On the other hand just about any sciency degree qualifies one to be a Climate Scientist looking at Flannery and Suzuki.
    I have also read that voting for Mr Abbot precludes one from even having an option on climate science.

    Yair, I’ve noted the same thing. Handy nugget for future use, it’ll bite them harder than it does anything else.
    Also note that in the rock/paper/scissors of credentialism, any and all credentials one may hold are automatically negated to zero by “climate denialism”, whilst possessing “climate awareness” is an automatic Jack of Trumps.

  64. Tintarella di Luna

    I have recently discovered the rise of credentialism

    It all came about because the Layba Pardy, you know the werkers’ party or is that the wukkers pardee, was deterrrrmined that everyone should go to universidee, if you didn go to Universidee you weren’t worth the steam etc…, because werkers who sweat and have callused hands are bogans and need to be credentialised out of boganism by going to universidee, all because a certain harridan from hades’ father could go not to universidee in Barry Wales in the 1950s.

    The Layba pardee is full of lawyers and when they’re not lawyering they’re lying and when they’re not lying they’re fornicating philanders and sometimes they’re lying philandering fornicators. But they have Universidee degrees so they’re a cut about the 67% of people who aren’t. I’m sure that won’t help.

  65. Tintarella di Luna

    …who don’t – fingers and brain not synced

  66. But they have Universidee degrees so they’re a cut about the 67% of people who aren’t.

    Unless they are a “climate denier”, in which case they are automatically a member of the “untouchables” caste, and not entitled to comment or contribute to anything.

  67. incoherent rambler

    Has it occurred to anyone else that the private sectors interest in hiring party hacks is well founded and in the interests of shareholders?

    If the rules incorporate graft and corruption then companies will play the game.

  68. Notafan

    “any and all credentials one may hold are automatically negated to zero by “climate denialism”, whilst possessing “climate awareness” is an automatic Jack of Trumps.”
    Yes; that was particularly noted in the frothing over the Wilson appointment.
    I further noted that being a warmie gave one automatic status as an ‘expert on everything’.
    I wonder what stopped Ms Gillard’s dear old studying at night school? My dad came back from the war and studied at night school whilst working. It is also nice to be able to take nine years for a four year degree. They can’t slam that Rhode scholarship hard enough either. Sports, leadership, a commitment to public service all most sneer worthy to the credentialers.

  69. Rabz

    I read an article in the Oz the other day written by Karl Rove. He listed his 15 predictions that he had made 12 months ago and he scored 10 correct, 4 incorrect and 1 50/50.

    Australian journos and political pundits seem quite happy to make predictions but I don’t recall any reviewing their own performance 12 months later.

    Don’t forget, peoples, that noted genius Andy Leigh (the Perfessor’s li’l mate) advocated the banning of political predictions.

    As for “journos and pundits” reviewing their predictions, most of them would no doubt make mUttley and the semenblogger look like Nostradamus.

  70. Adrian

    the Finance minister has been by far and away the best performer so far

  71. .

    They can’t slam that Rhode scholarship hard enough either.

    Neither can I. He has turned out to be an utmost disappointment, but we predicted that here on the Cat.

  72. mareeS

    “If the rules incorporate graft and corruption then companies will play the game.”

    That’s a slur on most decent companies and business operators, ir. Our company was involved at high levels with government entities and private national and international companies over 30 years, and if there were suggestions along those lines, they were ignored by our people.

    The only pressure came from a couple of union people in a try-on, and once they read our non-capitulation, nothing further happened.

    Companies don’t have to cave in to this type of pressure, they just need to be transparent about being subjected to it, and unfortunately the construction and manufacturing industries are where neither side is transparent or without sin. It’s also where the hardest unions are most active, and most successful.

  73. mareeS

    Further to what I posted above, a business acquaintance in the mining industry was invited aboard the Obeid/MacDonald Hunter Valley scam when it was being set up, and said “no thanks.” He also was made an offer to join the other scandalous consortium associated with the CFMEU, and declined both. There really is lots of integrity in private business (and in sections of the union movement, I might add).

    The worst people are the dealmakers who cross over between the two. Crooks are just crooks, wherever you find them.

  74. srr

    I get the feeling that the times must be getting very interesting indeed.

    I’m seeing headless chooks running around everywhere, still more concerned about whether they will be caught dead in a bloody red or blue corner, than worrying that they are already headless… as the cows are coming over and down the hill…

  75. Nellie

    Nobody cares what PVO thinks..He is nothing more than a POMPOS ARSE with a very high opinion of himself..

  76. Honesty

    Sinc, if political analysts were represented by elements PVO would be Hydrogen. Don’t give him cred here until he earns it.

  77. gnasher

    As someone else has pointed out, Sinc seems to be a lefty, or starting to drift that way.
    Anyone who thinks PVO is any good is a deadset fool, PVO why don’t you just piss off to some other part of the planet you arsehole.

  78. Notafan

    I have confidence in our Rhodes Scholar, am looking forward to 2014 and seeing some union types being put under the microscope,

  79. John Mc

    Brandis is just plateauing at peak form. Could be a slightly better speaker on Q&A but otherwise an asset to the government.

    Hockey is the wildcard. He could end up embarrassing everyone.

  80. JC

    mouth off about it no end in an unhinged manner, make a laughing stock of yourself by claiming to be going for evidence.

    Stevie

    For the past several months I have deliberately avoided even mentioning your behavior at the time in question. In fact it’s you who continually bring it up. You raised the issue on this thread again and I did what I have done in the recent past, which is asking you to put some odds and limit for a bet. I did change it slightly this time though suggesting we go with bitcoin as i done own any and would like to.

  81. Stevie
    For the past several months I have deliberately avoided even mentioning your behavior at the time in question. In fact it’s you who continually bring it up. You raised the issue on this thread again and I did what I have done in the recent past, which is asking you to put some odds and limit for a bet. I did change it slightly this time though suggesting we go with bitcoin as i done own any and would like to.

    Translation: JC is wriggling, avoiding putting up.

    Lying arsehole.

  82. M Ryutin

    “He lost IMHO because he wasn’t prepared”.

    Sinclair, I think people everywhere have forgotten a bit of the narrative behind that $1.2 billion hole/cut, not just nit-pickers/minor-point obsessives (‘hypocrisy’ vital) like Van Onsolen.

    Unless I am mistaken PVO and others are forgetting that it was a supposed ‘brains trust’ that directed that savings be made and that Pyne had to sell something which just couldn’t be sold. If you think he made a poor effort at it, then Tony Abbott sunk it completely when he blew it up on the Bolt Report with his ‘promises we actually made rather than the promises you think we made’ comment.

    Pyne has an Everest to climb here and the task is herculean, what with PVO and other flippant commenters swallowing the fluff and sound bites about this underfunded for four years and unfunded ever after fake Gonski “plan”.

  83. Toiling Mass

    The Goose snapped up by the private sector? I can see that.

    Pharmaceutical companies have any number of drugs they would want to test, and Swanny is genetically very close to a human.

  84. .

    Tony Abbott sunk it completely when he blew it up on the Bolt Report with his ‘promises we actually made rather than the promises you think we made’ comment.

    I commend Abbott for that comment, but it doesn’t necessarily win him friends, votes or elections.

  85. Toiling Mass

    The Japanese used to have a resigned tolerance for senior civil servants retiring from their ministries and immediately taking up roles in companies they had previously supervised. They called it amakudari, or ‘descent from heaven’.

    Not sure of its prevalence here among the public service, but we get it from pollies.

    The Japanese brought in laws to restrict the practice (although I can’t vouch for how energetically they are now enforced since the particular scandal that precipitated their implementation has long since faded).

  86. Tardell G

    Peter van Onselen? Labor stooge/shill/hack/fan boi.
    There’s more but I left the homo-erotic descriptives out.

  87. steve

    Swanny is genetically very close to a human
    I think you will find that the goose and the red underpants kid are genetically identical

  88. incoherent rambler

    mareeS : You could be right, Commonwealth public servants retiring to ranches in Texas after tenders have been awarded is probably just a coincidence.

  89. Sinclair Davidson

    I see you drifting leftwards, Sinc – just like your predecessor jtfSoon who masqueraded as a right-winger.

    :) Jason a right-winger? When I met him he was a member of the ALP.

    What is happening is simple: When I criticised a left-wing government, I was clearly a right-winger. Now that I’m criticising a right-wing government, I am clearly a left-winger. My position hasn’t changed much – I’m still criticising the government.

  90. Honesty

    Are you angling for a gig with PVO Sinc? An in depth in the men’s shed Friday afternoon?

  91. Sinclair Davidson

    Hadn’t thought of that. Does it pay?

  92. Honesty

    I doubt it from the line up but I would chip in. You would be awesome, do you have a seersucker jacket?

  93. dd

    The “I believe you” comment to Gillard shouldn’t be held against PVO. In context it was a good interviewing move.
    Gillard was getting very defensive under questioning from Paul Kelly. She was clamming up. PVO was playing ‘good cop.’ I watched the interview… it definitely seemed like he was trying to soften her up to get more answers out of her. Hey, we believe you. Just tell us your side of the story and it all be rosy.
    As such, there was an implied “But” after “I believe you.”

  94. Honesty

    Dd. I can see your angle but Okams Razor, he was just say what he thought. From watching almost every show for three years other than the last six months, it is not a style he has ever employed before. So I think I will hold it against him.

  95. candy

    Hey, we believe you. Just tell us your side of the story and it all be rosy.
    As such, there was an implied “But” after “I believe you.”

    PVO does write in an interesting personal sort of way and makes the political scene and personalities quite interesting. It is his style, probably unique.

  96. Honesty

    Here is the link PVO Kelly Gillard

    He seems to be convinced that he believes and just wants to dump the whole thing. She then says he has “great naivety”. Now a person on top of this when she asks Kelly what he wants to put to her of wrong doing, he just has to say (as Ben Fordham did, which the Vic Police then interviewed him over) “were you in the room with Ralph Blewitt when you signed the POA?” POV ran dead on this no research nothing.

  97. dd

    PVO

    Last Saturday in this column I accused Brandis and former Labor attorney-general Mark Dreyfus of hypocrisy over comments that each made about one another’s appointments to the Australian Human Rights Commission.
    Brandis recently appointed Tim Wilson – a member of the Liberal Party and well-known right-wing spruiker – despite in July having attacked Labor’s appointment of Tim Soutphommasane, a member of the Labor Party and well-known left-wing spruiker. Brandis described Soutphommasane as an “overt partisan of the Labor Party”, saying that commissioners must be able to “discharge their responsibilities in the human rights field in a non-partisan manner”.

    I would have thought it was an open-and-shut case of hypocrisy, but Brandis disagreed, writing to this paper to explain why. His letter was published on Monday.

    PVO is right and Brandis is wrong.
    You can’t complain about political appointments and then make do the same thing once you’re in power.

  98. dd

    I have recently discovered the rise of credentialism. It was mentioned particularly in relation to Tim Wilson’s qualification for the HRC. On the other hand just about any sciency degree qualifies one to be a Climate Scientist looking at Flannery and Suzuki.

    Welcome to the party. We’ve been banging on about credentialism for years.

  99. Honesty

    I agree with Brandis and Drefus comparison but so what an inane observation, PVO is a lightweight. And started with the left lens when Kym went to news to protect Rupert’s investment by removing blow back on Hartigen and Rupert then finished the bait and switch with Col for the election campaign. But that is another story and you don need to master Sun Tsu to understand it.

  100. Token

    You can’t complain about political appointments and then make do the same thing once you’re in power.

    What happened in September? PvO is now willing to show backbone to ministers…

    Compare & contrast the squib in front of Gillard & the fawning articles he wrote to keep her coming on his show.

  101. jupes

    In context it was a good interviewing move.

    Yeah right, worked its arse off. Got some really good answers out of her like … ummm …

    FMD dd, are you gullible or what? PVO was a TLS sycophantic from the get-go. Right up there with the mummy bloggers.

  102. There'sonlyoneTonyAbbott

    “Welcome to the party. We’ve been banging on about credentialism for years”

    I took a few years off from following politics as I have been trying to stop my business going down the gurgler, and RGR were so painful I couldn’t watch or read. Plus everyone I know seems to be very left so I found it better to keep quiet. So I should have said that this was new to me having discovered this type of blog. It is rather fascinating.

  103. Mike of Marion

    There’sonlyoneTonyAbbott
    #1127472, posted on December 29, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    Welcome to the Cat – it can and does get very willing here at times.

    Mike

  104. incoherent rambler

    I’m still criticising the government

    Well said.

  105. brc

    I was just having a drink at my local surf club and I am 99% sure Wayne Swan was there near the bar. It was a good thing I was only on my first or a loud mention of $500 billion worth of waste would likely have happened.

  106. Honesty

    Brc get Swan to autograph your chit not many people run up a $500,000,000,000 credit bill. It would look great on a visa receipt. Not so good for Australia, not that the media or twitter care.

  107. brc

    Yeah I went home, it was too crowded with the holiday influx and I really couldn’t stand the thought of having to be publicly polite to a nation wrecker like swan.

  108. Jazza

    Do people really take PVO seriously?
    To quote my sister,who coined this to describe Glen Milne and Paul Kelly originally:
    He swings like a gate but one with one hinge hanging tight and the other half gone”

  109. Jazza

    PS” Can anyone ever forget PVO’s cringeworthy on air devotee squawk “I believe you, Prime Minister when you say you did nothing wrong”..??
    I can’t–it was right up there with the second grade Ch 7′s Riley and his “What can we do to help< Prime Minister" to the same unworthy female–talk about form 9 schoolboys, these two take the prize!

  110. .

    The Japanese used to have a resigned tolerance for senior civil servants retiring from their ministries and immediately taking up roles in companies they had previously supervised. They called it amakudari, or ‘descent from heaven’.

    More like a stinking European Carp jumping out of the swamp and refusing to die for several days on dry land.

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