Monday Forum: December 30, 2013

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  1. C.L.

    Dot, the commenter drew the parallel and you warmly endorsed the comment.

    A man doesn’t need to be ‘cured’ of liking women.

    A man haunting public toilets for sodomy definitely does.

  2. Rabz

    Antarctic tourist ship trapped by sea ice.

    No one can understand why the ice is there, what with the gerbil worming and all.

    Bloody Abbott.

  3. Tom

    Ensuring that government gets bigger each year necessarily involves creating work where none previously existed. And a new bullshit lexicon to try to hoodwink those paying for make-work schemes that there are worthy reasons they are being separated from their money, while guaranteeing that real needs are never met:

    Once bureaucrats content themselves with “increasing awareness”, “making a difference” or delivering “positive outcomes”, they have exhausted the list of useful things to do.

    Such is life at the ACT Human Rights Commission, where a fall in the number of complaints for discrimination suggests that the national capital is, after all, a reasonably civilised jurisdiction.

    For Human Rights & Discrimination Commissioner Helen Watchirs, however, it is a sign that the grievance-mongering body needs to be more “visible”.

    “Proactive work” is required, she says, to “increase awareness of discrimination issues”.

    Health Services Commissioner Mary Durkin should tell Watchirs about the downside of visibility. Durkin is struggling to deal with a 60 per cent increase in complaints and notes that “the visibility of the role of the commissioner is an ongoing problem”.

    Indeed, Durkin has been forced to adopt an “increased workload mitigation strategy”, shunting off complaints to hospitals and other government agencies, a strategy once known as buck-passing but now termed “a whole-of-government approach”.

  4. .

    C.L.
    #1129048, posted on December 31, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Dot, the commenter drew the parallel and you warmly endorsed the comment.

    A man doesn’t need to be ‘cured’ of liking women.

    A man haunting public toilets for sodomy definitely does.

    There you go. You actually believe in quack medicine that ‘cures’ homosexuality, whereas I was saying no such cure exists.

    Are you literate, C.L…the commenter didn’t imply that at all…it is entirely in your head.

  5. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Brian, my best wishes to you and your wife and child. I am sure she will be alright, as internal surgery has improved tremendously even in the past ten years. I had the same appendix emergency as a child, with medical attention left too late, and when the surgery was more crude. It left me with some bothersome adhesions which had to be attended to in early adult life. I’ve been fine ever since.

    It has been a killer throughout history though, before modern times. We are lucky to live in this era.
    You don’t know you’re born, my Sainted Mother used to say if anyone complained about anything.
    Solved all problems and every worry, in her Sainted Opinion.

  6. srr

    Muslims have been emboldened by traitorous Anti Christians of the West…

    …to the extent that they [Islamists] also War Against China And Russia…

    … at the same time as they War Against The Rest of The World.

    I didn’t specify Australia and America, but along with mentioning The West, I did specify two Eastern Nation States, that, like The West, are also under attack by promoters of Islamic Religions.

    I wasn’t “banging on”.
    I wondered at, why, so few care to consider what it means, that The Traitorous of Western and Eastern Nations around the whole world, are either Pro-Islam and/or Anti-Christian.

  7. C.L.

    There you go. You actually believe in quack medicine that ‘cures’ homosexuality, whereas I was saying no such cure exists.

    No, I believe a man hanging around public toilets to sodomise strangers is ill.

    You don’t.

    You think what he’s doing is exactly like a husband having sex with his wife.

    Incredible.

  8. JC

    CL

    What about sex in a woman in the bathroom before or after a shower? I hope that doesn’t count as being ill.

  9. JC

    How the fuck did you two get to talking about bathroom sex. Fellas, please. This is a libertarian anit left site.

  10. Makka

    “I wondered at, why, so few care to consider what it means, that The Traitorous of Western and Eastern Nations around the whole world, are either Pro-Islam and/or Anti-Christian.”

    Because , being Australians and of the lucky country, it will not be before we become a socialist economic shit hole like some Mediterranean countries that the penny will drop and people will realise ; Ah, so that is what the Left have in mind for us. But by then it will be too late.

  11. .

    C.L. you are off your head. I will leave it there.

  12. dover_beach

    Are you literate, …the [writer] didn’t imply that at all…it is entirely in your head.

    dot, that is exactly what you did.

  13. Leo G

    Antarctic tourist ship trapped by sea ice. No one can understand why the ice is there, what with the gerbil worming and all.

    I think it must be one of those fearful austerity measures. It’s certainly likely to freeze funding of bipolar scientific expeditions.

  14. kae

    Just looking in…

    By the way, the real question might be why women want to bleep men. ;)

  15. .

    Because , being Australians and of the lucky country, it will not be before we become a socialist economic shit hole like some Mediterranean countries that the penny will drop and people will realise ; Ah, so that is what the Left have in mind for us. But by then it will be too late.

    You think Christianity stops socialism?

    Exhibit A: Kevin Michael Rudd.

    Exhibit B: Sydney Anglicans

    Exhibit C: UCA

    Exhibit D: Pope Dud

  16. .

    dover_beach
    #1129076, posted on December 31, 2013 at 10:55 am

    Are you literate, …the [writer] didn’t imply that at all…it is entirely in your head.

    dot, that is exactly what you did.

    No.

    But thank you for the failed morality play.

  17. Bons

    Does anyone have a clue how the Wiki mob paid for this grand tour in order to offer my best wishes to sweet Mr Assad.

  18. Makka

    “You think Christianity stops socialism?”

    Nope. Apathy encourages Socialism is my point be it from Christians or otherwise. If you are not prepared to defend your values, there are plenty of assh*les standing ready to divest you of them.

  19. dover_beach

    No. But thank you for the failed morality play.

    No morality play here. You butchered the writer’s argument, drew the wrong conclusions therein, and are no doubling-down re your failure. A miserable effort.

  20. .

    No. I didn’t butcher their arguments at all.

    C.L. said that gay men are in need of a cure. Therein lies the only failure.

  21. boy on a bike

    The ABC continues to have a big problem mentioning the Religion of Blowing People into Little Pieces.

    Watch this 90 second clip and see if you can determine what might possibly be motivating suicide bombers in Russia.

  22. Toiling Mass

    No one can understand why the ice is there, what with the gerbil worming and all.

    Whenever they get something wrong they cry “Aha! Global Warming!”

    And of course they cry “Global Warming” constantly.

  23. srr

    For the life of me, I can’t think of any Mediterranean countries as rich in natural resources, range of productive climates, in such a vast area of geologically stable land, surrounded by such vast, rich seas, most of which is still waiting to be exploited and traded.

    “Lucky” County? No. Blessed like no other.

  24. Tom

    I’m sure Brian of Moorabbin (all the best, cobber) is tearing his hair out over the latest attempt by street criminals to fit up the wallopers and deflect attention off them:

    THE head of Victoria’s police union says measures to combat racial profiling by officers will create unnecessary work.

    Commissioner Ken Lay on Monday unveiled a plan to deal with racial profiling, including the trial of a receipt system where a record is kept of who is stopped by police and for what reason.

    The plan comes after allegations from a group of African-Australians that police repeatedly stopped and searched them because of their race.

    But Police Association secretary Greg Davies said racial profiling was not the problem it had been made out to be.

    He told Fairfax Radio the receipt system would create unnecessary work for officers.

    “It creates a rod for the backs of police that are already cowed with the responsibility and oversight as it is,” he said on Tuesday.

    “[If] police get a description that says four young African males … they see four young African males walking down the footpath and think, ‘common sense, matches the description, perhaps we better talk to them’.

    “That’s not racial profiling – whatever that is – that’s just common sense.”

    According to the ABC, Ken Lay has “acknowledged” racial profiling is taking place. Lay is part of the problem.

  25. .

    Europe is blessed. It is what they do with it, take Northern Italy vs Southern Italy.

  26. dover_beach

    No. I didn’t butcher their arguments at all.

    You butchered her argument. That is why you’ve failed to defend your interpretation with a quotation.

  27. dover_beach

    Happy, healthy and prosperous New Year to you all.

  28. Makka

    “For the life of me, I can’t think of any Mediterranean countries as rich in natural resources, range of productive climates, in such a vast area of geologically stable land, surrounded by such vast, rich seas, most of which is still waiting to be exploited and traded.”

    The Socialists and Lefturds in general do not want a thriving prosperous capitalist economy. That situation cannot be controlled by them. They want an economy that is predominantly reliant on Govt (like in many parts of Socialist Europe and the Med) – which they want to deperately obtain (“whatever it takes”). With control of Treasury and an economy reliant on Govt, the scope and power that these insidious turds would then have over society is boundless. That is their goal and MO. Ruin the economy to force reliance on Govt. Debt is their favorite tool.

    Australia’s resources bounty becomes a hindrance to the LeftGreenslime. This is clear in their efforts to tax it to death. They are out and out traitors.

  29. candy

    The word ‘cure’ perhaps implies a disease. The term is a little offputting, for something that is a human condition a certain proportion that probably, nearly very certainly, were just born with.

  30. .

    Interesting theory you have, that I can’t guess someone’s beliefs but you can guess my motivations, DB.

  31. Mr Rusty

    Tom
    #1128645, posted on December 30, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Rusty, we require warnings if you’re going to post cultural pornography like that.
    Mike of Marion
    #1128646, posted on December 30, 2013 at 11:13 pm

    Mr Rusty

    That was despicable – nearly threw up all over the Monitor

    Sorry, should have put warnings around that.
    The missus uses it on me every now and then if she wants a bit of “peace & quiet”. I find it’s really good for sickies as well cos if you watch it a few times you do actually turn green and throw up.
    I reckon if they threatened to play that video on a loop, Clockwork Orange style, to convicted sex offenders it would have the same effect as castration.

  32. Abu Chowdah

    Abu, you’re really defending NSA officials gathering around to listen in and laugh as US soldiers deployed in a war zone had sex chats with their sweethearts back home?

    Hey, no, I’m not. Your comprehension skills are either shite or you’re verballing me.

    What is happening there is related to inappropriate staff activity, not whatever the objective actually was. Righto?

  33. Woolfe

    Toiling Mass,
    The ABC are turning it from The Australasian Antarctic Expedition to Antarctic tourists as the stupidity is outed.

  34. It is always fun watching CL and Dot go at each other. It’s like the World Darts Championships, except instead of darts they’re throwing insults.

  35. srr

    Europe WAS blessed by Nation State Leaders of Judeo/Christian Faith, and like all who spit at The Source of such blessings, they’ve traded them for curses from the cursing.

    Yet still, even if you insist on calling all of Europe, “One Sovereign Nation”, on geological stability and unique location on the earth and angle to the sun, alone, Australia is blessed like no other.

  36. Bons

    Grace Collier doing a great job on exposing companies that have screwed their shareholders by signing up to stand-over industrial agreements.
    The same degree of media scrutiny must also apply to Government largess – the Left cannot exist without tapping the public purse.
    Instead of ridiculing crazed studies or trips to Antarctica, the focus must be on; who approved the funding (specifically who), how much, what was the vetting process, what was the follow-up exploitation plan for the benefit of Australia, what is the audit plan, what are the consequences of failure or poor quality work???
    How does “we came to Antarctica to test a theory but found that we could not do so therefore we will test another theory”; possibly fit within the nominated bounds of a research grant that we were forced to pay for.
    Until we expose the flim-flam of grant and university funding, the Left will continue to destroy us from within.
    Howard’s greatest legacy will always be “don’t fight them, cut-off the funding”.
    And, up yours RODENT, it is OUR money and we will demand the right to say how it shall be spent.

  37. Abu Chowdah

    Brian, all the best to your wife. Hopefully she won’t have to endure those additional procedures. Hang in there, mate.

  38. C.L.

    How the fuck did you two get to talking about bathroom sex.

    Somebody posted an analysis of homosexuality as a perversion.

    Dot endorsed one of the commenters who said heterosexual sex (also known as “sex”) was exactly the same as hanging around public dunnies.

    There is no cure for me liking p*ssy. And there is no cure for a man that likes to hang out in rest area men’s rooms.

    Then Dot tried a switcheroo by accusing me of supporting gay cures or something.

    Obviously, that wasn’t my point.

    Apart from everything else, Dot has also endorsed a caricature of homosexuality: heterosexuality on one hand, public toilets on the other.

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    on geological stability and unique location on the earth and angle to the sun, alone, Australia is blessed like no other.

    If only we’d build a few dams, and catch all the water from all the rivers and flows that now race immediately to the sea. Drove over the Shoalhaven yesterday, yet another massive Australian river.

  40. srr

    Australia’s resources bounty becomes a hindrance to the LeftGreenslime. This is clear in their efforts to tax it to death. They are out and out traitors.

    Agreed, which is why watching the God hating Commie scum, side with Islam and turn against China and Russia, while Australia is further tightening a ‘Global Energy Trading Troika’ with them…after Russia gave up on 50 years of trying to force denial of God and even China has a continuing growth in Christianity…there is a very old, very big picture unfolding…anyone can read about it in some very old books

  41. Gab

    Brian, my prayers and best wishes to you and your wife and son, and here’s hoping for some good news in the New Year. May your wife sail through to good health without any further surgery. xx

  42. srr

    Not ‘if’, Lizzie, When. :) ;)

  43. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Dot has also endorsed a caricature of homosexuality: heterosexuality on one hand, public toilets on the other.

    I agree with that. It is denigratory to homosexuals. But it is also a signal to how desperate some homosexuals become for their variety of sex. This desperation is a sort of addiction, which can be counselled and changed, so that a ‘gay’ life can be lived more wholly and in a better way. Or the homosexual ‘need’ may be changed: although I think the jury is really out still on this one.

    Currently, there is a great deal of social pressure to ‘act’ on the homosexual impulses which some men do have rather than to ignore or divert them, but there is also for some men a real and overpowering need to express sexual love in a homosexual manner. Expressing it with stability, and not in toilets, would be something to aim for perhaps?

    Dot and CL, can’t you just agree to disagree – slightly?

  44. C.L.

    Lizzie, I love the Dotster.

  45. dover_beach

    Interesting theory you have, that I can’t guess someone’s beliefs but you can guess my motivations, DB.

    No, I never said that you can’t guess at someone’s beliefs; I said your guess was incorrect.

  46. Andrew

    Maurice Newman spot on again

    Climate policies helped kill manufacturing, says Maurice Newman

    THE unprecedented cost of energy driven by the renewable energy target and the carbon tax had destroyed the nation’s competitiveness, Tony Abbott’s chief business adviser has declared. Maurice Newman also says climate change policies driven by “scientific delusion” have been a major factor in the collapse of Australia’s manufacturing sector. “The Australian dollar and industrial relations policies are blamed,” Mr Newman said. “But, for some manufacturers, the strong dollar has been a benefit, while high relative wages have long been a feature of the Australian industrial landscape.”

    Read more at:
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/climate-policies-helped-kill-manufacturing-says-maurice-newman/story-e6frg6xf-1226792218812#

  47. srr

    What Resources Can Be Found in Antarctica?

    Answer

    There are a lot of natural resources that can be found in Antarctica and they include iron ore, chromium, copper, gold, nickel, platinum and other minerals. Coal and hydrocarbons is also found in Antarctica but all these minerals are found deep in the rock in thick ice making mining them very expensive.

    1 Additional Answer

    The common resources that are found in Antarctica are ice, coal, sediments, petroleum, metallic resources, iron, copper, lead, uranium, platinum, and manganese. Antarctica is the southern-most continent on the Earth. It is very rich in resources.

    and the largest area of it BELONGS TO AUSTRALIA.

    Oh sure, extracting resources from all that ice, in that killer weather, is a problem, like it was a problem to harvest North Sea Oil, before older technologies advanced to become old technologies as new technologies continue to be developed, tried and tested.

  48. harrys on the boat

    You’ve got the physique for darts, m0nty. Its just a pity you have no talent.

  49. harrys on the boat

    What now though, Andrew? You’d like to think Abbott out Newman in this position to provide those exact conclusions. But will he act on it and scrap the renewable energy target? Judging by previous form he’ll probably put Bob Brown on 500k a year to revise the target.

  50. C.L.

    Newman and Mackay are right (see Bolt) re warmenists.

    There must come a reckoning. These criminals must be punished and brought to book.

  51. Makka

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/jan-hatzius-top-questions-for-2014-2013-12

    “Goldman’s Top Economists Just Answered The Most Important Questions For 2014 — And Boy Are His Answers Bullish”

  52. Jessie

    Following the lack of initial interest in his Antarctic research project Chris Turney placed this ad:

    Wanted for hazardous journey.
    Low wages, bitter cold,
    Long hours of complete darkness.
    Safe return doubtful.
    Honour and recognition assured.

  53. An alleged comedian, John Fugelsang, is being praised all over the interthingy for his hip characterisation of Jesus.
    It seems that Jesus never mentioned partial-birth abortion; that means he must favour it! Jesus never suggested lepers should pay a Medicare contribution; that means he favoured free, universal health-care!

  54. C.L.

    We do know that Jesus backed WorkChoices and personal contracts:

    Matthew 20:1-16

  55. Gab

    “[If] police get a description that says four young African males … they see four young African males walking down the footpath and think, ‘common sense, matches the description, perhaps we better talk to them’.

    “That’s not racial profiling – whatever that is – that’s just common sense.”

    See the problem there already.

    four young African males [seen by witnesses at the crime scene]

    That is not only racist, it ageist and sexist as well. Ken Lay will issue forth orders that descriptions will be post-modernist and devoid of all the aforementioned ‘ists”. In future, descriptions from witnesses to police will be reported as:

    four people [were seen]

  56. srr

    I WANT SOME OF WHAT NEWMAN’S ON
    by Larry Pickering

    Okay, so I’m in the minority. Almost 75% of you disagree with me on Premier Campbell Newman’s VLAD laws (can I suggest that Post poll result might be much lower on another forum?) Polarisation on this issue is staggering and that’s understandable.

    There are over a million hits and seven thousand shares on my Facebook page alone, and God knows what the figures are for the Post and email lists, so I’ll allow myself one last comment before you all shoot me down in flames again.

    I have no connection with bikies, I have never owned a bike and I was at one time on a bikie hit list.

    My son, who owned many of the Gold Coast night clubs, suffered bikie infiltration and drug related intimidation which forced him to appear in Court in Brisbane on a weekly basis. In the end he gave the night club game away. So I am no fan of bikies.

    Drugs are here to stay and no degree of prohibition will stem the flow

    RTWT at Pickering Post.

  57. It seems that Jesus never mentioned partial-birth abortion; that means he must favour it! Jesus never suggested lepers should pay a Medicare contribution; that means he favoured free, universal health-care!

    But of course.

    Jesus did mention going to the toilet on one occasion, but he didn’t express an opinion of it, so we’d all better cross our legs.

    Jesus also never ate chocolate, or potatoes, or bacon. I am not sure about buttered toast, but I’m inclined to think not.

  58. Jessie

    Bons @ 11.34

    His company interests or IP in CarbonScape may likely be funding the trip, current rescue plans and family accompanying him on the venture.

    To do something positive about climate change, I helped set up a carbon refining company called Carbonscape which has developed technology to fix carbon from the atmosphere and make a host of green bi-products, helping reduce greenhouse gas levels.

    Also book royalties?
    Ice, Mud and Blood: Lessons from Climates Past

    Imagine a world of wildly escalating temperatures, apocalyptic flooding, devastating storms and catastrophic sea level rise. This might sound like a prediction for the future or the storyline of a new Hollywood blockbuster but it’s something quite different: it’s our past.

    ‘In a day and age when where we re bombarded with worrying forecasts for future climate, it seems hard to believe that such things could come to pass. Yet almost everywhere we turn, the landscape is screaming out that the world is a capricious place. The problem is if we don’t tune in, the message is lost. We need to decipher the past daily weather around us, previous explorers’ rigorous data of the past and learn from it….’

    source: ?here

  59. Matthew 15:17, in case you were wondering …

  60. Mike of Marion

    All the lefty press after Newmann – who’d guessed!!!!

  61. .

    srr
    #1129144, posted on December 31, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    What Resources Can Be Found in Antarctica?

    All of them. We must annex it.

  62. srr

    Gab, at Federation Square in Melbourne, a gang of 9 (8 Africans males and 1 female NOT described), bashed someone for their phone, and then bashed him some more with a stick while he lay there already unconscious.

    I heard it reported yesterday, but can’t find it on line today.

    What infuriates me though, isn’t using “racism” as an excuse to stay silent about the evils of Leftist ideologies being inflicted on us, but using “SEXISM! MISOGYNY!”, to keep people blind to just how many females, deliberately breed, train and seduce males into being their very own, owned, Violent Criminals.

  63. Armadillo

    If only we’d build a few dams, and catch all the water from all the rivers

    Spot on Lizzie, Armadamo must be built (otherwise my prediction from a couple of weeks ago is going to look pretty dam silly).

    Now down to serious business. What is the wasp situation? Please don’t tell me it was a hornet (I was very tempted to run a book on the outcome)? It was going to look at bit like this.

    Wasp – $2.50
    Hornet – $1.25 (Favourite)
    Native Bee – $3.70
    Gab Chickens out – $4.00
    Call to triple zero – $7.50

  64. johanna

    Brian, I join with other Cats in sending very best wishes to you and your family. As others have said, modern medicine can do wonderful things, and in a week or hopefully less we should be hearing good news from you.

  65. John Comnenus

    SRR,

    There is a slight problem with your Antarctic thesis, and that is that most of the world doesn’t recognise Australia’s claim over Antarctica. Incidentally, this is probably why we will never take Japan to international court for whaling off ‘Australian Antarctica’. An international court might just say our claim is not recognised under international law. It is also probably why no Government will ever deploy warships to ‘police’ or ‘monitor’ whaling. I would imagine that if our claim of sovereignty is rejected then Australian warships harassing Japanese vessels in international waters might well cause very serious diplomatic problems between friends.

  66. Gab

    You win $4, Arma. But tonight, before the New Year, I’m gonna be brave, this time for sure!

  67. Bruce

    Spot on John! Australia’s “ownership” of large slabs of Antarctica is a myth and is certainly not recognised by the USA,Russia ,China or Japan.

  68. Armadillo

    You win $4, Arma. But tonight, before the New Year, I’m gonna be brave, this time for sure!

    Geez Gab, I thought you were just “foxin us” with the terrified jibes. Tonights the night then – you go get him/her/it/them.

  69. .

    Bruce
    #1129199, posted on December 31, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    Spot on John! Australia’s “ownership” of large slabs of Antarctica is a myth and is certainly not recognised by the USA,Russia ,China or Japan.

    These countries have no rightful claim.

  70. Gab

    I thought you were just “foxin us” with the terrified jibes.

    Ah no. That is real.

  71. kae

    Gab
    Blast the mud dauber wasp‘s nest off with the hose. It’s just where it’s put its eggs, it doesn’t live in it.

  72. Infidel Tiger

    ITALY’S highest court has overturned the conviction of a 60-year-old man for having sex with an 11-year-old girl, because the verdict failed to take into account their “amorous relationship”.

    “But your Honour, I love fucking kids. How can I be guilty?”

  73. .

    No I won’t agree with C.L.

    I noted my interpretation on what was said.

    C.L. then proceeded to verbal me.

  74. .

    Was that Italian court bought?

    If it was in the South, I’d believe it.

  75. Gab

    Oh yes, I meant to say thank you, Kae for your advice on the previous thread.

    But I’m going with saturate the nest with environ-unfriendly chemicals of a poisonous nature, leave it for a day and then smash it with a gavel. That’s the plan anyway.

  76. srr

    Most of the [EU & UN LEFTIST, PRO-ISLAM] world doesn’t recognise Russia’s, China’s, Israel’s, Our or any Nation’s Right to fight back against Islamists, either, but Not All agree with or are prepared to lay down to that insane majority.

    An interesting map of which friendly neighbours do recognise each other and respectfully work together:

    http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/islands_oceans_poles/antarctic_region_pol02.jpg

  77. ITALY’S highest court has overturned the conviction of a 60-year-old man for having sex with an 11-year-old girl, because the verdict failed to take into account their “amorous relationship”.

    Berlusconi must be laughing his sporran off.

  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    What makes a territorial claim valid? We should just seize it. We were there first, and are still around.
    Who will join me in an Antarctic trip to plant the flag? We, the People, etc.

    New Year is nearly upon us. I have just changed into my party dress on the Cat.
    IRL we have a couple of invites to parties/drop ins. This is Da Hairy Ape’s licensed night. He is permitted to proffer his opinion to all on matters climatic and political (within reason) without my hovering interventions. I call it our ‘losing friends who need to be lost’ night (I offer you last year’s offended Greenies upon whose driveway he left his watery scent in the time-honoured animal fashion). We have not received an invitation to their party this year and I cannot say I am disappointed.

    Ooops. He just tells me we have received one, but that he has told them we are otherwise engaged.
    They go up in my estimation, as he would have never darkened my door again for that bad behaviour.

  79. .

    No country north of the equator has a legitimate claim on Antarctica.

    It is not like the Falklands where there is settlement and a consistent democratic choice to remain part of the UK.

  80. srr

    I love this page of this site [link below] for giving an idea of the importance of Antarctica to Australia, AND The World, and the significance of the vastness AND LOCATION of Australia’s claim:

    http://www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/environment/geology

    …oops, I’ve got to go back for the other map that shows much more of what I’m getting at…

  81. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Dot, it is a Sacred Site for us: Mawson and all that. We have even erected his hut again on the waterfront in Hobart, where the airport styles itself “Gateway to Antarctica”. First Nation Claim should surely apply.

    Just a ‘mo while I do something about my Gravitar. Can’t go out with my make-up all pixillated like that.

  82. Tel

    Was that Italian court bought?

    If it was in the South, I’d believe it.

    Actually it was the highest court in Italy (their Supreme Court) and after two other lower courts had found the guy guilty. Makes you wonder a bit…

  83. This is Da Hairy Ape’s licensed night. He is permitted to proffer his opinion to all on matters climatic and political (within reason) without my hovering interventions.

    Gosh, Lizzie. I find it’s the other way around; I have a delicensed night where I’m specifically FORBIDDEN to proffer my opinion on contentious issues.

  84. srr

    Oh and John, I can believe that we do all that freezing southern ocean patrolling to ‘save and protect Whales, Patagonian Tooth Fish, Penguins etc.’, like I can believe a team of flying reindeer cover the globe annually, in one night, but training for navel battles in those location specific conditions, well that makes much more sense of all that massive investment.

  85. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I’m going with saturate the nest with environ-unfriendly chemicals of a poisonous nature, leave it for a day and then smash it with a gavel. That’s the plan anyway.

    Good on you with the gavel, Gab. Justice must be seen to be done.

  86. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Aha, Philippa. Don’t forget that we are leaving town anyway in three week’s hence. ;)

    HIA has been on a short leash for most of this year. 2014 it’s back to Sydney and the fun starts!

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    What an interesting map that was of Antarctica: I see we have taken ‘naming rights’ already. I am looking forward to one day traversing the Transantarctic Mountains (cross-country skiing or by high speed rail?) and visiting the Russian Sector.

  88. Carpe Jugulum

    Brian, hope all turns out well for you & your family. The House of Jugulum will light a candle for you.

  89. C.L.

    Vegetarian couple in their 60s finish year of running a marathon a day.

    Claim raw foods key to their drive:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-31/joggers-wrap-up-marathon-run-around-australia/5179888

    Quite incredible.

  90. C.L.

    Dot, I may have unfairly teased you but I was right to condemn your endorsement of that appalling comment. I think we can say accurately that I am 75 percent in the right.

  91. srr

    Not so long in Tasmania, these people were not uncommon:

    http://www.tasmanianaboriginal.com.au/images/hist/Image1.gif

    …and very long ago, there was only one land mass…that started to divide and eventually break and drift away from Antarctica, that used to covered in great forests of great trees all over it’s great snowy white mountains…

  92. Bruce

    The piece of Antarctica which we claim to “own” was “given ” to us by Britain ,just a pity it wasn’t theirs to “give” in the first place. If the mineral wealth of Antarctica is ever to be exploited I’m sure we’ll find that might is right when it comes to who gets what and it won’t matter whether the claimants come from North or South of the Equator.

  93. Vegetarian couple in their 60s finish year of running a marathon a day.

    They both look about 80. I was amazed to find they were only in their 60s.

    I notice they don’t mention the many, many toilet breaks that must have been necessary on a diet like that.

  94. stackja

    Not sure if this has been posted earlier.
    Teenager refused bail after alleged attack on four elderly people outside Bonnyrigg retirement village

    Anthony McDermott, 19, who Parramatta Local Court heard has a criminal history 15 pages long, will see in the New Year behind bars after being refused bail yesterday. The court heard McDermott, who lives in nearby Heckenberg, was on bail for assaulting police, resisting arrest and offensive language and was due to front court next month.
    The court heard McDermott told police he “can’t control his temper” during “frank and full admissions” where he said he did hit someone, but did not specify who.
    While admitting being at the scene of the attack, his Legal Aid lawyer told the court he would contest the charges. but did not enter a plea.
    The prosecution alleged McDermott had gone on a “violent rampage” and was a threat, not just to his alleged victims, but to the community.
    The court heard McDermott had breached his bail for previous matters on numerous occasions.
    Magistrate Robert Abood said McDermott’s criminal history gave him “no comfort” in refusing bail.
    He said the charges were serious and, if convicted, the court would “no doubt” consider a jail term as punishment. McDermott will reappear in court on January 7.

  95. I notice they don’t mention the many, many toilet breaks that must have been necessary on a diet like that.

    Perhaps they do:

    8:00am: Make room for another 10 bananas each

    Eugh.

  96. C.L.

    Yeah, I thought the before shots (at the beginning of their marathon year) show them a lot more youthful and healthy than the picture of them in action.

  97. John Comnenus

    A simple claim over Antarctica by expropriation is out of the question because we have agreed to an international treaty for a non militarised Antarctica. So there is no means of enforcing any claim.

    As for Patagonian Toothfish, I think you will find the patrols occur in the territorial waters of Heard and other Southern Indian Ocean Islands both of which are internationally recognised parts of Australia and hence have an exclusive economic zone around them under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

    There is no such international recognition in the Ross Shelf off our claimed coast in Antarctica.

  98. C.L.

    As if we’d ever mine Antarctica.

    We’re flat out approving new mines in Australia.

  99. John Comnenus

    C.L.,

    I would have to accept that my theoretical points are immediately trumped by your practical point of experience.

    Maybe that is why the Chinese are exploring the Moon for resources.

  100. C.L.

    Yet another knock-out attack.

    Man’s wife – also bashed – caught assailants on camera.

    … she is baffled as to why the police haven’t shared her images more widely with people who could have seen the suspects earlier in the evening.

    See if you can guess why police haven’t publicised the photos and Eric Holder hasn’t intervened.

  101. stackja

    Sydney’s hottest new bars and drunken violence says Rachel Olding.

    Sydney’s hottest new bars – Rachel Olding
    Joe Santamaria knew how to do summer in Sydney. At his legendary Cronulla milk bar, it was almost expected that you’d walk straight off the beach and into the shop for a milkshake, to be slurped up before the sand had shaken off your feet.
    Almost two decades after Joe’s Milk Bar closed, the Shire’s burgeoning bar scene has revived his superb summer routine. But this time around, the milkshakes come with an adults-only twist: vodka, Joseph Carton banana liqueur, Mozart Chocolate liqueur, Milo, caramel and fresh banana.

    City’s violent epicentre – Rachel Olding George Street is becoming Sydney’s epicentre of drunken violence with alcohol-related assaults bucking a statewide downward trend.

  102. Woolfe

    Deadman,
    Thank you for your recommendations on Roman books. I now have Frontiers of Imperial Rome on my Amazon wish list for purchase next year.

    I see that Stephanie Forrest is commenting on “Did Rome Fall” in Da IPA’s evil Horizons December 2013 newsletter (email).

  103. stackja

    See if you can guess why police haven’t publicised the photos and Eric Holder hasn’t intervened.

    It is black and white.

  104. A Lurker

    Yeah, I thought the before shots (at the beginning of their marathon year) show them a lot more youthful and healthy than the picture of them in action.

    Ditto – they really have aged on the outside. Makes you wonder if they’ve been similarly aged on the inside as well. That sort of constant stress on the body at their age would not be clever.

  105. Woolfe

    CL,
    Your comment on mining in Antartica is interesting. Did you know that Woodside successfully operate on Barrow Island (Class A Reserve) off the Pilbara coast? They are throwing billions at it to make it successful, I wonder why, considering they could operate off shore for a lot less cost?

  106. jumpnmcar

    John C

    we have agreed to an international treaty for a non militarised Antarctica.

    When did that happen?
    The Yank Navy had nuclear reactor down there in the 60′s.

  107. Woolfe, if you’re buying a hardback copy of Frontiers of Imperial Rome, Bookdepository.com (which is owned by Amazon) will charge you AU$43.55 (with shipping included); Amazon, however, at the currently discounted price and with the cheapest shipping, will charge you $AU46.31.

  108. dover_beach

    See if you can guess why police haven’t publicised the photos and Eric Holder hasn’t intervened.

    Are the assailants friends of the Tea Party? White? Christian? Heterosexual?

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Perhaps we have agreed to a number of UN Treaties that we should be starting to disagree with.
    Depending on circumstances, of course.

  110. speaking of elephants

    Come, if you need to highlight your Elephant pun with a different colour you have a huege problem.

  111. Are the assailants friends of the Tea Party? White? Christian? Heterosexual?

    Middle class Swedish Presbyterians.

  112. Woolfe, if you’re buying a hardback copy of Frontiers of Imperial Rome, Bookdepository.com (which is owned by Amazon) will charge you AU$43.55 (with shipping included); Amazon, however, at the currently discounted price and with the cheapest shipping, will charge you $AU46.31.

    I read the IPA stuff too, on the Fall of Rome. Adrian Goldsworthy did a good book a few years back on exactly this topic as well. A very stylish review appeared in Quadrant, by one of their bettah reviewers.

  113. John Comnenus

    I can’t recommend ‘the Founding Conservatives’ highly enough. A brilliant exploration of the conservatives who wrote the US Constitution. You can also clearly see the influence these US Conservatives had in our own Constitution. Especially Dickinson’s compromise on the Senate bring the State’s House with equal representation.

  114. .

    Conservative? Pfft…I’d would have sided with the anti Federalists and Whiskey rebellionists. Though I think seeing Washington as President leading the Federal Army would have won me over with sheer respect.

  115. John Comnenus

    And now on to John Julius Norwich’s single volume history of Venice. More summer reading. The Frontiers of Imperial Rome sounds interesting. Maybe a natural follow on from Venice and tied to the Roman classical Republican ideals of the Founding Conservatives.

  116. johanna

    Why are we not talking about the current PR disaster of the climate change alarmists, currently frozen in ice in the Antarctic? Why, because it has been downgraded to “a tourist expedition” and an unfortunate accident, according to the ABC et al.

    The real story is that Professor Turney, of UNSW, managed to glean funds from universities, government Departments, the ABC, the Guardian and almost no private donors for a jolly jape to retrace Mawson’s epic journey of 100 years ago – to “research the effects of climate change.” Well, while Mawson got within a few miles of the coast, and only had to stop because the water was too shallow for the ship, this lot have been frozen in 60 miles out to sea and will probably have to be rescued.

    Millions of dollars, three icebreakers, and people risking their lives to try to save them has not impeded the carnival atmosphere aboard the ship, where people are dancing and celebrating Gaia.

    One of the participants is a Green senator-elect Janet Rice. She is sending Gaia-friendly tweets and FB posts.

    There is way too much info for a post here, but since Australian taxpayers funded this debacle and will also fund the rescue efforts, where is the MSM coverage? And how do they get away with transforming it into a tourist voyage?

    It is worth noting that expedition leader Turney is a co-author of the infamous Gergis et al paper that Gillard trumpeted as our contribution to the next IPCC report. It was subsequently shot down in flames within weeks by Jean S. at Steve McIntyre’s blog, and has now been disappeared from the official record.

  117. Armadillo

    Hey John,

    I know you did some spread sheets (pretty sure that was you) for the September 7th election based on the flow of the betting markets. Did you end up drawing any conclusions/observations based on the actual results.

  118. John Comnenus

    Thanks for the update Johanna. But there are two things that you must know about these Green fanatics:

    1. No evidence will persuade them that their ideas are wrong, and
    2. They are utterly shameless. No amount of waste is too much so long as it is spent by them to make offerings to their God and any waste, no matter how trivial, is too much if spent by non believers in the purduit of happiness, higher living standards and wealth.

  119. John Comnenus

    Pursuit – damned iPhone

  120. Bons

    What Resources Can Be Found in Antarctica?
    Beards!
    One year when I was flying in Enderby Land we received a request for assistance from the Russians, who have a base down the coast from Mawson, to bring in a couple of their field teams because the Russian base had been hit by a super blizz that cracked-up the majority of their aircraft.
    The problem for us was navigation – try as we might we could not find the Red October Glacier or the Lenin Peaks on any of our maps.
    As for our thoroughly prepared Antarctic heroes currently stuck in the ice expressing amazement because it is raining. Good research team, it always rains in that area in summer. We used to play cricket and even go for an occasional swim – not for long mindja.

  121. Tel

    The real story is that Professor Turney, of UNSW, managed to glean funds from universities, government Departments, the ABC, the Guardian and almost no private donors for a jolly jape to retrace Mawson’s epic journey of 100 years ago – to “research the effects of climate change.”

    He quite clearly said on the ABC interview that it was privately funded. Do you have any documentation of actual funding sources?

  122. Porcelain Monkey

    Too true johanna.

    Watts and JoNova are covering it.

    Tel, for those involved, if the money doesn’t come directly from a government source, it is deemed as private.

    I would have thought that anyone involved with the Gergis paper would have done their utmost to avoid any publicity.

  123. jumpnmcar

    It’s bad enough losing the rugby, but in 2014 Australians will have to suffer Kiwis getting uppity about their economy as well.

    I know the SMH is not a reliable source, but, the idea of NZers gloating is almost unbearable.

  124. johanna

    Tel, how about $1.5 million from UNSW, for a start. By “private”, he just means “not out of my pocket”.

    When I get a minute, I’ll dredge up the rest. But it was other universities, State government departments pushing climate change, and media organisations including the ABC, the BBC and the Graundian. A few passengers (presumably like our Greens senator-elect) paid about $18,000 each.

    Her certainly has a novel idea of the notion of “private funding.” And, they are not likely to end up with the multi-million dollar bill for the rescue. Last news is that they will have to be helicoptered out, while the captain and crew stay on board to try to prevent the ship being crushed by ice.

  125. Tom

    One of the participants is a Green senator-elect Janet Rice. She is sending Gaia-friendly tweets and FB posts.

    Johanna, as you probably know, Rice is a full-on celebrity fucktard specialising in the bonfire of public money on the climate circus. Her long-standing root is the deknackered transvestite “Penny” Whetton, who started life as Peter, a climate scientist with the CSIRO and a member of the IPCC gravy train. Rice, who also has a science/meteorology degree, was elected to the Senate in Victoria for the Greenfilth in September in spite of the 27% collapse in their vote, which tells you everything you need to know about the communist hovel of my birth.

  126. johanna

    Wow, I didn’t know that Tom – thanks. Had never heard of her.

    But you may also not be surprised to know that the have a Marxist historian on board (h/t James Evans at the Bishop’s):

    “Ben is an academic historian, currently employed at the University of Wollongong in Australia. His love of history began at high school in Sydney, and led to an MA in Social and Industrial history (1987), and a PhD in Australian history. His teaching profile includes polar history, with an emphasis on the contribution of working class people to Antarctic and Arctic history. An active researcher, he is published extensively in Australian and international historical journals. There will be a pre-publication launch of his forthcoming book Class and Colonialism in Antarctic exploration 1750-1920 (Pickering and Chatto, 2014) somewhere in the vicinity of Commonwealth Bay.”
    http://www.spiritofmawson.com/aae-science-leaders/

  127. Sinclair Davidson

    Happy New Year – off until 2014. Enjoy the music selection.

  128. jumpnmcar

    According to wiki ANZAAS payed the guts of it.
    ANZAAS only sponsor ( As far as they say ) is ” Bio21 institute ” aka Melbourne Uni.
    $1.5 mil ? no way.

  129. jumpnmcar

    Happy New Year to you too Sinc, and to all the other positive minded Cats out there and in here.

  130. Armadillo

    Link to the latest Pickering Post on subjects that have been discussed by Cats in recent weeks (for those interested, mainly drugs/prohibition and Newmans Laws):

    http://pickeringpost.com/story/i-want-some-of-what-newman-s-on/2550

  131. Tom

    Thank you very much, Doomlord. Have a great night.

  132. Percy

    Happy New Year Sinc, thanks for all the great work.

  133. JMH

    Re: Turney et al and the comedy act of 2013 if not, the decade. I love the way the ABC online has gone into silence over the fiasco. The story now not fitting the meme because of a few uncomfortable facts, the ABC, true to form, seems intent on hiding the story.

    Again, we see factual information hidden from view and the taxpayer-funded globull warmening expedition now via editorial sleight of hand, becomes a tourist venture.

    Questions regarding the funding require answers.

    FFS. Turnbull – do something. Nobody can trust this behemoth full of Socialist Greens to bring us the truth! There is no trust where truth is a casualty. Smash it up. Save the taxpayer further embarrassment, please.

    And a happy and safe entry into 2014 to all Cats.

  134. Tom

    For 50 years, we’ve had anorexic Barbie. Now meet fat-arsed trailor-park-trash Barbie (great graphic at the link):

    NOT every parent will welcome a discussion involving toys this soon after Christmas. However, an online image of a rather chubby doll has raised a tricky question: is the world ready for a pudgy Barbie?

    More than half a century after first going on sale, Barbie continues to be the world’s best-selling doll.

    The brand has long been synonymous with a controversial ideal of feminine beauty – one involving a head of improbably voluminous blonde hair, and four impossibly lithe limbs.

    Now, it has been suggested that Barbie should be available in a “plus-size” version, which would represent a more common American physique.

    A mock-up of what this new Barbie might look like – a plump doll, in pink negligee, with a triple chin – was published on Facebook by Plus-Size-Modeling.com, a blog that offers advice to aspiring plus-size models.

    “Should toy companies start making plus-sized Barbie dolls?” it asked. “In all honesty, we want to know.”

    The post has garnered nearly 42,000 “likes” and 3000 comments. It has been noted that models with larger physiques might serve both commercial and social ends.

    Since more than a third of Americans are obese, demand for clothes in bigger sizes is booming. Meanwhile, it is argued that more voluptuous models give women a more diverse range of body types to aspire to.

    However, there are also concerns that a fat Barbie might encourage unhealthy lifestyles.

  135. Armadillo

    Happy New Year – off until 2014

    Extended Break? Happy New Year.

    The ABC get a WEB (consisting of about 6 and a half weeks). The DoomLord gets an EB (consisting of about 6 and a half hours).

    There is something seriously wrong about that. Especially considering not a taxpayers cent has been spent and the entertainment value comparison of the two is chalk and cheese. Seriously, thanks for an interesting and informative year.

  136. Blogstrop

    Here’s to a less troll infested 2014.

  137. johanna

    Let’s start with their supporters page:

    Well, looky here. We have the Australian Research Council (thanks, taxpayers!), the Climate Change Research Council (ditto), The University of Exeter (no doubt UK taxpayers were consulted); the South Australian Museum – as SA has so much spare money to throw around; the University of Wollongong – where the Marxist historian-in-residence on the ship has a job – need I go on?

    Next you’ll be saying that ABC and BBC sponsorship, which they don’t mention on their site, is “private” as well.

  138. Driftforge

    Nobody familiar with contemporary Western societies can be intellectually challenged by the idea of a great dialectical resolution to the problem of liberalism. Coercion and liberty are fused in a political order that directs authority towards the maximization of choice without consequence. Stupidity is sacred, and neither tradition nor natural necessity has the right to inhibit it. Preserving the freedom to fathom the limits of dysfunction in every direction is the primary social obligation, with the full resources of Leviathan behind it. If that’s not exactly where we are, it will be soon.

    Nick Land

  139. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Thank you Doomlord for your good wishes. We will now all go well into 2014. Remembering 1914 too. I’m off now to get bathed and beautiful for the evening’s festivities. Da Hairy Ape has just returned from the supermarket run (it’s a treasure, he is, to be sure) and I have to get my real party dress on.

    Happy New Year to all Cats and Kitteh’s as we roll on into another Year of the Cat. Whoo-hooo.

  140. srr

    So, about 8 years ago, there was a celebration that took about 10 years of planning, between the Dutch and Australian Governments.

    It was The Official Celebration of The 400 Year Old Relationship Between Australia and the Dutch.
    Yes, FOUR HUNDRED YEARS.

    During those ten years of both nations officially planning, Australian Government School children were still being lied to about the many, early contacts the Dutch had with Australian natives.

    For over 200 years of Europeans knowing where Australia was and how blessed rich it is, the world was lied to; “dragons be there!”, “unliveable, deadly desert/jungle/swamp”, whatever frightened the curious the most, and kept them away during hundreds of years of Royal and Religious Family negotiations over how to dvi-up the spoils and manage the labour force.

    Antarctica is part of the same treasured real estate package, and China was onto even before the Europeans.

    …as I’ve mentioned, it is a very old, very big picture that, here a little, there a little, line upon line, precept upon precept, is being revealed…

  141. Blogstrop

    The ABC were very happy to publicise the Spirit Of Mawson trip before the latest developments. Now it has turned into a negative they want to characterise it as some sort of tourist jaunt. They are so bankrupt in ethics and so undeserving of either the title or the funding as Nationl Broadcaster.

  142. johanna

    Re my previous post about Marxist historian Ben Maddison, currently trapped in the Antarctic ice on the SS Global Warming, his cutesy bio on the website says:

    “There will be a pre-publication launch of his forthcoming book Class and Colonialism in Antarctic exploration 1750-1920 (Pickering and Chatto, 2014) somewhere in the vicinity of Commonwealth Bay.”

    Guess they will have to put the canapes and goonbags on ice for that one. Unless they helicopter him and his guests to Commonwealth Bay from the frozen-in ship.

  143. Helen

    Sympathies, Brian, I am sitting here next to Captain’s bed for the exact same thing. Late Thursday night called ambos and one thirty friday operation to remove ruptured appendix twenty four to forty eight hours old, lots of bad stuff to remove with it. Peritonitis. iV flagyl three x day for five days, to make sure all cleaned up but he is not progressing as well as he should be. So while we thought he would be out tomorrow wednesday, it is a day by day thing. Still in pain, so off for another mri in next little while to make sure all is ok. He is so stoic and is inclined to tough things out, as you all know he was emotionally and physically exhausted before our WEB running on empty I think i said, so he is starting from a low recovery base. Lucky me the kids are big, one of them is sitting with us here, bless her. It makes one feel very fragile when loved ones are hurting. Fragile and impotent.
    So glad it didn’t happen back at the ranch, son has flown out today to check on things, all ok back there, trust to God that we all have a better 2014.

  144. kae

    Brian and Helen
    You and your loved ones are in my thoughts.

  145. Empire Strikes Back

    Happy New Year Professor. My gratitude to you for making this unique and wonderful forum possible in 2013.

    May the bald fascist gnomes inherit the Earth.

  146. Delta A

    Sincere best wishes to Helen and to Brian and hope for a full recovery for their loved ones.

  147. Tel

    Best of luck Helen with your difficult vigil. Sepsis is an sneaky killer so beware the fever. Hope it all comes good.

  148. Tom

    Go well, Helen. I’m thinking of you and your family.

  149. Colmac

    Once the ice has melted, Turney’s next expedition is on a rocket-ship to the Sun. His plan is to land at night, in the hope to avoid extreme temperatures.

  150. Mike of Marion

    Helen, what a dastardly pack of cards you and the old boy have been dealt. Best wishes

  151. Infidel Tiger

    Who knew the funniest laugh of the year would come on Dec 31st?

    Professor Turney has said morale remains high on the ship as passengers and crew continue their work as best they can and distract themselves with yoga, photography and language classes.

    I hope the Ice Deniers spend a few months there. They’ll possibly pick up a second language and yoga accreditation.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/antarctic-ship-passengers-to-be-evacuated-by-helicopter-20131231-3041j.html#ixzz2p2NUmksd

  152. Brian of Moorabbin, you and yours are in our prayers.

  153. Bons

    Oooh I wish I was still flying down there. The thought of the pleasures one could could gain by frightening the ideologies out of a chopper full of chinless ‘tards crossing 100nm of sea ice gives me frissons.

  154. .

    The beauty of it all.

    Trapped in sea ice in Summer in our ‘rapidly warming world’.

    I guess this is where the warming lobby’s cause extincts itself.

  155. lotocoti

    I guess this is where the warming lobby’s cause extincts itself.

    On the contrary. I’m sure the penitents at gaia’s altar will parse every word and phrase to a fare thee well and prove this turn of events was the most likely outcome.

  156. Makka

    “Trapped in sea ice in Summer in our ‘rapidly warming world’.”

    And, forced to rely on those carbon belching machines to save their wretched lives. Like the carbon belching machines they seek to put out of reach of others , so that they die freezing this northern winter.

  157. .

    From a “former” nerd..I say…”Just as Planned”

  158. Tel

    Oooh I wish I was still flying down there. The thought of the pleasures one could could gain by frightening the ideologies out of a chopper full of chinless ‘tards crossing 100nm of sea ice gives me frissons.

    Hey, just before I pick you guys up, have you got a moment to chat about Carbon Tax?

    If you are just about to rush off, I can come back some other time when you aren’t busy.

  159. Mindfree

    Jeeps just logged on and besides the typical hypocrisy and utter gutlessness from the ALPBC re: Mawson voyage – are you listening Turnbull and Abbott, I just read thru Brian and Helen’s plight.

    Guys, all the hopes and wishes of everything going right going for you to the power of ten – hang in there you have plenty of support

  160. calli

    Wishing a quick recovery for Captain…hopefully the enforced downtime in a hospital bed will give him the rest he needs so much. Hang in there Helen.

  161. cynical1

    “Since more than a third of Americans are obese, demand for clothes in bigger sizes is booming. Meanwhile, it is argued that more voluptuous models give women a more diverse range of body types to aspire to”.

    An Australian version is planned, featuring tattoos and known as “Bogan Barbie”..

  162. johanna

    Helen, your contributions are one of the best things here. Here’s hoping that you have a happy New Year.

  163. Arnost

    Language lessons?

    Learnin’ Ruski! Typical lefties – probably so they can read Lenin in the original…

  164. Pickles

    Good luck Brian and Helen. The worst thing that happened to me is that i missed a plane today, so your travails reduce mine to the insignificance it deserves.

  165. incoherent rambler

    Tim Blair keeps it coming.
    Someone needs to let Prof Chris Turney know that, yes he is stuck in ice. I wonder what God’s next joke will be?

  166. Eddystone

    A December 30th report released by the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund shows that 2013 had the fewest police deaths by firearms since 1887.

    According to the report by the Associated Press, there were a total of “111 federal, state, local, tribal, and territorial officers killed in the line of duty nationwide” in 2013.

    Of these 111 fatalities, “46 were killed in traffic related accidents and 33 were killed by firearms.” The number of firearm related deaths is down 33 percent and is “the lowest since 1887.”

    Moreover, “deaths in the line of duty generally [all causes] fell by 8 percent and were the fewest since 1959.”

    All of this happened while a potentially record number of Americans were obtaining and carrying handguns on their persons for concealed carry, personal protection, and home protection.

  167. Tracey

    I was feeling sorry for myself as we have ended the year with a funeral in the a.m. and this afternoon several hours in Emergency with my 75 year old mum who slipped over and broke her arm. Then I read about Brian’s wife and Helen’s Captain who have had much worse to contend with. My best wishes to both families and I hope you have your loved ones home fit and healthy in the new year.

  168. calli

    Chin up, Tracey! Whooshka…there, I’ve sent you and your mum a glass of bubbles over the interwebs. Next year will be a good-un.

  169. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Helen, prayers for you and your Captain will also be sent up tonight.

    And also for your mum, Tracey. Several hours in emergency on New Year’s Eve is a long way from a cheerful way to spend your time.

  170. C.L.

    All the best to you, Tracey. Keep your chin up.

  171. Tracey

    Thanks Calli and nilk. Mum is a tough old bird and will be fine with a bit of extra help. I left her at around 9 o’clock tucked up in bed with her cat and her Kindle. I downed a couple of beers in record time when I got home. Very glam!

  172. Tracey

    Thanks to you too, CL. I hit the submit button before seeing your comment.
    I’m kind of glad I’m over going out on New Year’s Eve. Seeing in the coming year is much more comfortable and pleasant at home :)

  173. Porcelain Monkey

    Happy New Year Cats.

    Best wishes for Brian and Helen and their loved ones.

  174. Mike of Marion

    Tracey, I’ll have a Coopers Sparkling Ale for you Mike

  175. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Congratulations, Pickles. You passed.

  176. Uh oh

    ABC T V saving the worst ’til last with their New Year’s Eve coverage. Just abysmal.

  177. stackja

    Uh oh
    #1129735, posted on December 31, 2013 at 11:57 pm
    ABC T V saving the worst ’til last with their New Year’s Eve coverage. Just abysmal.

    Using Webcams and the fireworks sound travels the 9km.

  178. Percy

    Happy New Year Cats.

    Imagine my surprise when some of my posts at the dumb managed to slip past the mods this morning. Some, not all, unfortunately. It seems my best work is the least appreciated but nevertheless my point is: What the hell sort of penalty rates would someone at the ABC be getting for working New Years Day?

  179. entropy

    My question is how did the ABC get exclusive coverage of the Sydney fireworks so it could bombard us with ads and promotions for its own programs and personalities, including that ludicrous dick from ABC3.

  180. kae

    I missed the ABC fireworks coverage, though I’m not concerned about that.

    The Tattoo on the other hand…

  181. srr


    How many more failed court cases before we accept there were no “stolen generations”?

    By Andrew Bolt December 31 2013 (10:32am)
    Filed under:
    The “stolen generations”

    When will politicians, journalists and academics have the courage – and honesty – to concede there were no “stolen generations” as usually defined?

    Tony Thomas on yet another claim that’s collapsed in court against the evidence:

    Justice Janine Pritchard in the WA Supreme Court on December 20 rejected claims that from 1958-79 there was any official program in WA to implement the so-called Stolen Generation policy. Her judgment dismissed damages claims by the Aboriginal Don and Sylvia Collard and seven of their 14 children removed or made state wards.

    She specifically dealt with a claim that the children were removed “pursuant to a policy of assimilation of aboriginal children.” She found the children were instead removed, mainly to Sister Kate’s in Perth, to safeguard their physical welfare.

    This is the twentieth case in State, Federal and High Courts involving significant Stolen Generations claims, and the nineteenth to see the claims thrown out. Justice Pritchard found

    RTWT at Andrew Bolt’s blog.

  182. Riverina Matt

    Day one of 2014 and the wowsers at the SMH are already calling for new taxes – for our own good of course.

    Credit Suisse says what worked for tobacco will work for sugar. Extra taxes on full-calorie soft drinks should quickly cut consumption; all the more so because unlike cigarette manufacturers, soft drink makers already provide healthier alternatives.

    But in Australia the sugar industry has one big advantage the tobacco industry didn’t. Sugar is our second-biggest export crop. Its claws are everywhere, from Australian trade policy to the Nationals to the nutrition industry. Until recently Sugar Australia was a corporate governor of Sydney University’s Nutrition Research Foundation

    I tend to agree sugar isn’t exactly good for you – but has Fairfax ever met a tax it didn’t like?

    I find it interesting that the left is up in arms about a small co-payment to see the doctor but are quite happy to slug the working class mercilessly for their small pleasures – a bourbon and coke, a smoke, a block of chocolate …

  183. srr


    Indonesian police in shoot-out with suspected terrorist cell outside Jakarta

    By Indonesia correspondent George Roberts Updated 24 min ago

    Indonesian police on the outskirts of the capital Jakarta are caught up in a shoot-out with a group of suspected terrorists, after reportedly shooting dead one of the group in an attempted raid.

    The incident is happening in south Tangerang, west of Jakarta.

    Police have surrounded a house where it is thought that four members of a terrorism cell were based.

    It is understood that one member of the group has been shot dead.

    Reporters on the scene say there was a loud explosion as police attempted to storm the house.

    This morning the stand-off was continuing, with occasional shots ringing out.

    The group is allegedly linked to the murder of two policemen last year.

    The head of Indonesia’s National Police, General Sutarman, is at the scene of the raid.
    Posted 33 min ago

  184. Makka

    Another model apocalypse. Do you think it may be possible to develop a model that, you know, delivers similar results that which are already known? Then take that computation into the future? These parasites wasting money on fantasy should be thrown onto the streets and made to do some real work, instead of creating the rubbish dogma keeping my electricity bill exhorbitant;

    “By 2200, the world could be more than 8C warmer than it was in pre-industrial times if carbon dioxide emissions are not reduced, say the researchers.

    The study corrected what were claimed to be earlier errors in calculating the effect of clouds on global warming.”

    “Lead scientist Professor Steven Sherwood, from the University of New South Wales, said: “Our research has shown climate models indicating a low temperature response to a doubling of carbon dioxide from pre-industrial times are not reproducing the correct processes that lead to cloud formation.

    “When the processes are correct in the climate models the level of climate sensitivity is far higher. Previously, estimates of the sensitivity of global temperature to a doubling of carbon dioxide ranged from 1.5C to 5C.

    “This new research takes away the lower end of climate sensitivity estimates, meaning that global average temperatures will increase by 3C to 5C with a doubling of carbon dioxide.”

    “Climate models had failed to take sufficient account of low-level air currents pulling water vapour from higher cloud-forming regions and reducing the amount of cloud cover, said Prof Sherwood’s team.

    When they were adjusted to match observations in the real world, the computer simulations produced cycles that took water vapour to a wider range of heights in the atmosphere and caused fewer clouds to form.

    This, in turn, increased the amount of sunlight and heat entering the atmosphere.”

    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/global-temperatures-to-increase-20140101-3055g.html

  185. Geriatric Mayfly

    ABC T V saving the worst ’til last with their New Year’s Eve coverage. Just abysmal.
    It helps fill up the local content quota. My Thesaurus leaves no doubt about ABC programming for the year just elapsed. ‘Abysmal’ = very bad, dreadful, awful, terrible, frightful, atrocious, disgraceful, deplorable, shameful, hopeless.
    Informal: rotten, appalling, crummy, pathetic, pitiful, useless, lousy, dire, the pits.

  186. srr

    ‘Their’ ABC News Just In, have listed this headline under “Sport”?!


    Dozens arrested in Russia as Vladimir Putin vows to ‘annihilate’ terrorists after bomb attacks


    Updated 5 min ago
    Russian president Vladimir Putin delivers New Years address
    Photo
    Mr Putin promised to crackdown on terrorism in his new year’s address in Khabarovsk.
    AFP: Presidential Press Service

    Russian president Vladimir Putin has vowed to fight terrorists until they are “completely annihilated” after two deadly bomb attacks in the southern city of Volgograd.

    Police have detained dozens of people in sweeps through Volgograd after 34 people died in two attacks within 24 hours.

    At least 15 people died when a bomb ripped through a trolleybus during rush hour on Monday, with investigators saying a male suicide bomber was responsible.

    A day earlier a similar attack at the main train station killed at least 18 people.

    No-one has claimed responsibility but suspicion has fallen on Islamist insurgents from the North Caucasus region.

    In a televised new year address, Mr Putin acknowledged “problems and serious tests” in 2013, including the recent bombings and an earlier suicide bus blast in October.

    “We will confidently, fiercely and consistently continue the fight against terrorists until their complete annihilation,” he said.

    ‘Operation Anti-terror Whirlwind’

    PhotoRussia has beefed up security after successive-day suicide strikes killed 34 people.

  187. Aldrydd

    Here’s a bit more on Bitcoin that might be of interest to Aliice……

  188. Empire Strikes Back

    Buongiorno i gatti. Wishing you all a safe, healthy and prosperous 2014. Special thoughts for Brian, Helen and Tracey.

    May we also spare a thought for those who are suffering from chronic illness. Perhaps 2014 will see the discovery of a cure for leftism and end the suffering for us all.

    Meanwhile, PeekStoopid &#153 reigns supreme. The Hun, letters:

    Keynes, the father of modern macroeconomic theory, rightly believed that market mechanisms cannot solve the problems of unemployment and poverty.
    Government spending and investment are essential instruments for balancing the economy. Lowering wages and cutting government spending, especially in a time of low interest rates, is behind declining economic growth and increasing unemployment.

    And from another letter

    Medicare as we know it, will be a goner. Free fibre cable and fast broadband is a goner.

    I acknowledge that sick people write dumb stuff. I cannot accept that dudes that should know better publish this tripe.

  189. Empire Strikes Back


    New year’s resolution…get my html house in order ;)

  190. Makka

    Are these our tax dollars at work in Antarctica? If so I would expect a much better tune than this;

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-25563594

  191. Tom

    I would expect a much better tune than this

    …led by the Greenfilth fucktard dyke soon-to-be-senator from the people’s republic of Victoria (far right in the video), direct from the gay folk scene. What an embarrassment to this state. Pity we can’t cut adrift the Fitzroy and Northcote soviets — which elected her and communist revolutionary Adam Ant — and sail them to Tasmania.

  192. Motelier

    Brian of Morrabin.

    I have just read the news. I do hope everything works out for you.

  193. Motelier

    Bugger I should read the whole thread before I comment.

    Helen and Tracey you have our thoughts.

    Motelier.

  194. C.L.

    Hawke and Keating: we have a budget emergency.

    They say spending has to be slashed.

    Thanks for the late heads-up, you pair of cowards.

  195. johanna

    The lack of self-awareness of the spoilt, entitled brats on the SS Global Warming is just staggering. They have posted a video of themselves singing a song about how wonderful their trip is, and had a slap-up New Year’s Eve party.

    Wonder what sort of festive season those on board the ice-breakers trying to save them, and those co-ordinating the rescue effort, had?

    Disgusting.

  196. C.L.

    Pope Francis “shocked” by homosexuals being allowed to adopt children.

    Damian Thompson asks if Time magazine will take back its Man of the Year title.

  197. Tom

    Obama zombie causes legal chaos:

    DENVER — Less than two weeks after a federal judge cleared the way for hundreds of gay couples to marry in Utah, officials of the socially conservative state made an emergency request to the United States Supreme Court on Tuesday asking the high court to put the unions on hold.

    Utah asked the court for the delay while it appealed a Dec. 20 ruling by Judge Robert J. Shelby of United States District Court that overturned the state’s voter-approved ban on same-sex unions. The judge ruled that banning gay couples from marrying violated their right to equal treatment under the Constitution.

    The state’s request landed on the desk of Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who handles emergency requests from Utah and other Rocky Mountain states. She is expected to refer it to the entire court, and the justices could rule within days.

    Judge Shelby’s decision set off waves of jubilation as hundreds of gay couples rushed to government offices to make their relationships official and claim a Utah marriage license, a document many thought they would never be able to obtain.

    But leaders in the heavily Mormon state said that the flood of marriages had created chaos and uncertainty, with the ultimate legal questions surrounding the same-sex unions still unresolved. On Tuesday, Utah said in its appeal that it would suffer “irreparable harm” if the marriages were allowed to continue.

    “Every single marriage performed between persons of the same sex as a result of the district court’s injunction — and in defiance of Utah law — is thus an affront to the sovereignty of the state and its people,” the state wrote in a filing with the Supreme Court on Tuesday.

    Utah has already tried and failed two times to suspend the unions while it seeks to resolve the legal fight over whether it can limit marriages to one man and one woman. Judge Shelby refused a request from the state to stay the decision as did the United States Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit in Denver.

  198. srr

    At Tim Blair’s:

    MAN DISCUSSES FABRIC

  199. pete m

    stackja
    #1129327, posted on December 31, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    See if you can guess why police haven’t publicised the photos and Eric Holder hasn’t intervened.

    It is black and white.

    It is black on white.

  200. jumpnmcar

    LOL, Looks like Abbott killed Lavartus Prodeo ,again.
    All together now , aaaaawwwww……

  201. srr


    If Time magazine gave Francis its Person of the Year on the basis of his relaxed attitude to homosexuality, it should have done its homework more thoroughly

    Is that something like, “We told you, no ne can buy, sell or get Time Magazine endorsement, unless they have The Mark!
    Did you even look for The Mark, or just assume it was there because of his, ‘poor, humble hippy’ shtick?”

  202. srr

    the blog statistics say that there have been 7,199 posts and over 385,000 approved comments, that’s 53 comments per post.

    So, how many DIS-approved comments did it take to make ‘em chuck a toastie and stomp off? 500,000, 1,000,000, to infinity and beyond….?

  203. jumpnmcar

    srr
    Yeh, it’s a mystery as to why there has been;

    a narrowing in the number of posters and in the number and variety of commenters.

    Baffling.
    I just tried to give them a clue but they wouldn’t allow it.

  204. stackja

    National Archives release today

    Threats of a nuclear Indonesia and a provocative New Guinea

    At a time of frosty relations with Jakarta, the Hawke government was warned that Indonesia ultimately might aim to obtain nuclear weapons.

    The paper noted that Canberra’s ability to improve relations was limited by factors including Indonesia’s relative lack of attention to Australia, its apparent desire to dictate the terms of the relationship and the fact Australia’s liberal democratic system and values were seen by some in Jakarta as potentially destabilising for Indonesia.

    Relations with Indonesia may be strained now in the wake of revelations that Australia monitored the phones of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, his wife and other key associates, but they were much more tense in the 1980s.

    Did ALP apologise in the 1980s?

  205. Tom

    Jump, noticed this quote from one of the administrators at LP:

    If you’re looking for other places for independent Australian political commentary, you can’t go past John Quiggin and Club Troppo (where my own blogging trajectory began) and Crikey and New Matilda.

    Let’s see where else have I heard that adjective?
    Oh yeah. ShakeMyHead: “INDEPENDENT.ALWAYS”.

    “Independent” is the new dogwhistle for “communist fucktard destroy-the-joint let’s-turn-Australia-into-Cuba death to capitalism!” mental asylum — the slogan of the uniquely Australian, nouveau riche, Greenfilth-voting, big-government, inner-city, totalitarian millionaire landowning class.

  206. .

    Did you even look for The Mark, or just assume it was there because of his, ‘poor, humble hippy’ shtick?”

    Deustche Marks?

    This is primarily an economics blog. As an economist, I’m confused.

  207. Geriatric Mayfly

    Jeepers Tom. I love it when you throw a proper adjectival tanty. Please go on.

  208. stackja

    Background to 1986 and 1987

    At the media briefing on the Cabinet records for 1986 and 1987, two speakers provided context and insights into the issues, events and personalities of those years.

    Dr Jim Stokes, the Archives’ historical consultant, undertook extensive research of the 1986 and 1987 Cabinet papers and provided an overview of the significant issues and events of these years.

    Professor the Hon Gareth Evans AC QC provided context and insight into the issues, events and personalities of 1986 and 1987. Professor Evans has been Chancellor of the Australian National University since January 2010. He was a Professorial Fellow at the University of Melbourne from 2009 to 2012, and is now an Honorary Professorial Fellow at the Australian National University.
    He previously spent 21 years in Australian politics, 13 of them as a Cabinet Minister. As Foreign Minister (1988–96) he was best known internationally for his roles in developing the UN peace plan for Cambodia, concluding the Chemical Weapons Convention, and initiating new Asia Pacific regional economic and security architecture. He has written or edited nine books – most recently The Responsibility to Protect: ending mass atrocity crimes once and for all, published by the Brookings Institution in 2008.

    ALP context and insights?

  209. stackja

    A shot from December 31 of the Aurora over the Beaufort sea combine with a shot of some ducks in Fairbanks Alaska when it was 35 below zero. pic linky

  210. Tom

    This is just gorgeous — a crony capitalist Chinese Communist Party apparatchik, who thinks exactly like the American left, is “negotiating” to buy the New York Times:

    FIRST he handed out cash to victims of China’s 2008 earthquake. Then he sold “canned fresh air” to residents of smog-ridden Beijing.

    Now Chen Guangbiao, listed as one of China’s 400 richest people and a man known as much for his publicity stunts as his wealth, claims he is in talks to buy the New York Times.

    “Soon, I will go to America to do three things,” Chen told a crowd Monday night at a news media award reception in the southern Chinese boom town of Shenzhen, according to the semi-official China News Service.

    The first, he said, “is to go discuss the acquisition of the New York Times”. Asked later to elaborate on his plans, Chen simply told reporters “the negotiation is currently underway”.

    However, the publisher of the New York Times has previously denied it is up for sale.

  211. C.L.

    At a time of frosty relations with Jakarta, the Hawke government was warned that Indonesia ultimately might aim to obtain nuclear weapons.

    No shit, Poirot.

    The ANU was established to expedite an Australian nuclear programme in response.

  212. C.L.

    Then he sold “canned fresh air” to residents of smog-ridden Beijing.

    You’ve gotta like this bloke.

  213. C.L.

    And Tony Abbott begins the year with …

    PM Tony Abbott to start ‘conversation’ on Indigenous recognition in 2014.

    Note the classic left-wing tactic:

    Prime Minister Tony Abbott says he will use 2014 to start a “conversation” about recognising Indigenous Australians in the constitution.

    Our Constitution incomplete, he says:

    “I will also start the conversation about a constitutional referendum to recognise the first Australians,” he said.

    “This would complete our constitution rather than change it.”

  214. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Jeepers Tom. I love it when you throw a proper adjectival tanty. Please go on.

    Yeay for Tom. Tom is the best. Happy New Year to Tom and all Cats and Kitteh’s now that it is 2014.

    I am changing my Gravitar in recognition of the fact that at 12.01 this morning I enthusiastically swilled red wine all over the bosom of my new party dress and the pieces of bosom it did not cover.

    Can’t take you out, darlin’, said my own true Hairy Love as he took me to the kitchen to assist in the mop up. I think he had a secondary interest there. We were at Ms. Boss’s place and she had been all over him all night trying to get him to stay on next year. She is a sweetie, but he wanted to reassure me where his true feelings and future employment intentions lay. ;)

    Anyway, we went to two parties, the first raucous, the second more interesting in amusing repartee and conversation, where we kissed the New Year in. For those on the Cat in trials and troubles, you are in my thoughts and I send best wishes, especially to Helen, Brian and Tracey.

  215. .

    The last thing we want to do is specifically recognise anyone other than citizens and electors in the constitution.

    Recognising different people is a recipe for a way off disaster.

  216. stackja

    Melbourne New Year’s Eve: Yarra Council promises a cleaner Edinburgh Gardens in Fitzroy North – Date: December 18, 2013 – Henrietta Cook

    Messy New Year’s Eve in Edinburgh Gardens, North Fitzroy
    Date: January 1, 2014 – 11:04AM – Deborah Gough
    Illegal New Year’s Eve dance parties in Edinburgh Gardens had to be shut down after scores needed medical assistance, including a police officer who was punched.

    A 17-year-old boy is in custody after a policewoman was punched, causing minor injuries, during the celebrations.

  217. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Did I mention that he leaned me over the sink and used the pull-out vegetable washing thingy to give my top front a veritable shower? I ended up so presentable that we didn’t leave till 3am.

    They should put him in charge of Fitzroy Gardens. They’d be immaculate in no time flat.

  218. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Edinburgh Gardens.

  219. Tom

    Thank you, Lizzie. Keep writing it all down.

  220. C.L.

    Abbott to conservatives in the electorate who voted for him: Drop Dead.

  221. JC

    Fuck I have a terrible headache from boozing last night at a friend’s new year bash. Ive drunk about a gallon of water and feel like a fountain over the toilet.
    Monster better not upset me today.

  222. DrBeauGan

    I never had a problem recognising aborigines until they started having blue eyes and blond hair.

  223. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    CL – that’s Warringah. What did he say or do specially for them?

  224. DrBeauGan

    Abbott has gone all touchy-feely creepy. Yeuk!

  225. candy

    Recognising different people is a recipe for a way off disaster.

    What sort of things would happen from recognising Aboriginals as the original inhabitants, Dot? I thought it was just an extension of wording and nothing more than that?

  226. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Sorry. Just went upthread to the link. Makes sense of the comments after that.
    Those ‘words’ had better be so carefully chosen that they are meaningless, otherwise a Pandora’s Box is opened in all sorts of ways. Another of Abbott’s ‘getting the lefties to love me’ tricks. Why bother?

  227. .

    candy

    We aready do that and has lead the Aborigines into firstly bonded servitude and now sit down money.

    They were arguably better off (holding economic growth constant) in the late pre Federation period.

  228. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    The gentle tinkle of government cash registers. It’ll be reparations next, maybe special territories, an even greater leverages on educational curricula, a change in the flag, and money for jam for old hands and new. Our Constitution has flaws (lots of Tasmanian Senators for 500,000 people anyone?) but it is already complete. It is not broken. Don’t fix it. A referendum on this please if it is going to be done, and chuck in some other issues. But that is a dangerous path. Live with it as it is would be my choice.

  229. stackja

    New Year’s Eve fireworks lure viewers to ABC – Date: January 1, 2014 – 11:58AM
    Michael Idato – SMH Entertainment Editor-at-Large, Los Angeles

  230. Rudiau

    Happy New Years everyone.
    Brian and Helen, Mrs Rudi and I wish speedy recoveries for your folk, our prayers are with you.

    Qld government continues its march towards a totalitarian police state.
    More speeding fines likely in Qld as ‘limits’ dropped

    However, motorists will not find out what the change in speed tolerances will be to avoid creating a defacto speed limit.

    Well, we know now.

    Motorist receives fine for driving 1km/h over the limit

    Mr Cassidy was driving a work car in his job as a ­delivery driver and is not convinced he was even 1km/h over the speed limit.

    The officer did not use a speed gun. Instead, he measured the speed by driving ­behind Mr Cassidy.

    “He told me I was speeding and I said I wasn’t and it kind of went back and forth,” Mr Cassidy said.

    Mr Cassidy said that ­during the argument the ­officer told him it was a case of “revenue raising”.

    Revenue raising? Ya think?

    Speeding hot spots reap rewards for Queensland State Government

    Ashamedly, I voted for these a*sholes.
    Ten or fifteen dollar fine, OK, not happy but can live with that. One hundred and forty-six dollars, plus points I bet, is over-the-top highway robbery. If this chap had not gone to the media the fine would not have been withdrawn. How many others I wonder.

    LDP or Shooters party next time Newman.

  231. .

    1. The constition is entirely broken after the Engineers Case, Dams Case, Workchoices and even moreso possibly after Peter Spencer’s case fails.
    2. Arhem Land appears to be better off than other remote communities.
    3. The NT is like another country, some southerners are completely unaware how different it is.
    4. Changing the flag wouldn’t cost much. Perosnally I say bugger the neo nazis and militant unionists, the Eureka Flag was born of liberty, and lead to democracy.
    5. I don’t mind Senate reform but more of that may be sortition or to stop votes exhausting at the State level. The electoral rules favour bigger parties. Currently Tasmania isn’t just disporportionate, it is disporportionately represented by the ALP, which makes no sense at all right now.

  232. stackja

    Kim Jong-un, the ruler of North Korea, has spent New Year’s Eve inspecting his country’s first ski resort – and declared that the infrastructure was “impeccable”.
    The baby-faced dictator took a test ride on a ski lift at the Masik Pass Ski Resort, which he said during a visit two weeks ago was “at the centre of the world’s attention”. Opening the country’s first ski resort was a priority for Swiss-educated Mr Kim, who had ordered that the resort be “world class.”
    Despite the brutal poverty in which many of his citizens live, Mr Kim noted “with great satisfaction” that everything was “impeccable” and gave instructions to serve the people well so that visitors may “keenly feel the loving care of the party“.

  233. calli

    Well, that Happy New Year didn’t last long chez calli.

    I have followed an elusive, malodorous smell to a corner of my family room…dead rat in the ceiling. And, natch, it’s in a part of the roof that’s inaccessible via the manhole. I thought I heard scuffling in the wee hours the other night, and a portion of my subconscious willed the creature to go outside to die.

    Time for the girly scented candles and reeds for a few days…I don’t fancy going up onto the roof (temperature equals the surface of the sun) to remove tiles.

  234. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    So what would you do, Dot?

  235. kae

    Why are people using lead instead of led? (And women instead of woman.)

    Is it a predictive text thing?

    When will rangas be recognised in the constitution?

  236. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Dead rats mummify fast, Calli. :)

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