Global warming’s greatest teaching moment gone to waste

Australia is in the midst of the greatest teaching moment on global warming possibly since this entire business began. Our team of scientists getting frost bite while frozen in, even with technologies today that did not exist a century ago when Douglas Mawson made the same journey. Yet this is not the way it is being reported, although I was pleased to see that Andrew Bolt has made it onto Powerline Picks. But the deep deep scandal, that ought to be one of the most instructive moments in this long and sad saga, is going to waste. And it is worse that I could have thought.

First there was the headline on Drudge, “‘Global Warming’ Intensifies”. So I went into the story which turned out to be from The Telegraph in London. And there, right at the start of the story, was this about Australia. But it’s not about what you might have thought:

As the planet marked its fourth hottest year on record, a study published in the journal Nature found increasing levels of carbon dioxide will lead to thinner ocean clouds and reduce their cooling impact, causing temperature rises of at least 5.6F (3C) over the course of the century.

The team of scientists said the findings show some climate models have been too ‘optimistic’ and previous estimates of a minimum temperature rise of only 2.7F (1.5C) could now be discounted. The optimistic models did not properly assess the impact of water evaporation, which sometimes rises only a short distance into the atmosphere and causes updraughts that reduce cloud cover, the study found.

‘These models have been predicting a lower climate sensitivity but we believe they’re incorrect,’ Professor Steven Sherwood, from the University of New South Wales, told The Sydney Morning Herald.

‘The net effect of [climate change] is you have less cloud cover.’

The study comes amid a controversy in Australia over claims by Maurice Newman, Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s top business adviser, who said the world had been taken “hostage to climate change madness”.

Mr Newman said the climate change establishment, led by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, remained ‘intent on exploiting the masses and extracting more money’.

‘The scientific delusion, the religion behind the climate crusade, is crumbling,’ he wrote in The Australian. ‘Global temperatures have gone nowhere for 17 years… If the IPCC were your financial adviser, you would have sacked it long ago.’

Mr Newman, a former chairman of the Australian Stock Exchange, was criticised by the opposition and pilloried by scientists, who said he was expressing “flat earth” views and should be sacked.

‘His piece is a mix of common climate change myths, misinformation and ideology,’ said Professor David Karoly, from the University of Melbourne, in an article in The Sydney Morning Herald.

‘I would not choose a person who believes that the Earth is flat to advise Australian shipping or airline businesses on how to plan routes to travel around the world. It is clearly not sensible to have a person who believes that climate change science is a delusion as leader of the prime minister’s Business Advisory Council.’

Mr Abbott, who is something of a climate change sceptic, once claimed that ‘climate change is “absolute crap”,’ though he later said he accepts it is ‘real’.

Since winning a federal election last September, he has moved to scrap Labor’s tax on carbon emissions and instead proposes to address climate change by paying polluters to reduce emissions, though critics say the plan is underfunded and will not achieve its reduction targets.

The debate comes as Australia in 2013 marked its hottest year since reliable recordings began in 1910. The world’s driest continent also recorded its hottest day, hottest month, hottest winter’s day and hottest summer.

The run of warmer weather began late in 2012 and was so great that Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology last year changed its official weather forecasting map to include new colours – deep purple and pink – for areas with temperatures above 50C (122F).

So let me return to Andrew Bolt one more time. This is on Professional warmist attacks amateur sceptic for being on the take:

David Karoly’s salary depends on him being a warmist. He is Professor of Atmospheric Science at the University of Melbourne and a member of the Climate Change Authority.

Today he attacks sceptic Maurice Newman, the former ABC chairman and now head of the Prime Minister’s Business Advisory Council, who is paid not a cent to point out – correctly – that the world has not warmed as alarmists predicted and the carbon tax wouldn’t prevent it anyway. Says Karoly of Newman:

As Upton Sinclair wrote, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”

Is Karoly at all aware of how stupid he looks?

Maybe he is and maybe he isn’t, but if you want my view, he could not care less.

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48 Responses to Global warming’s greatest teaching moment gone to waste

  1. Rabz

    Hey – where did the old banner go?!

  2. Rousie

    The team of scientists said the findings show some climate models have been too ‘optimistic

    Optimistic as in this ship will get us to Antarctica because the models say the ice is melting?
    Please make it stop.

  3. Rabz

    As the planet marked its fourth hottest year on record

    What utter garbage. Tell it to the numpties in the northern hemisphere who’ve been freezing their flabby arses off for the last three months.

    How many old people will die this northern winter due to the unaffordability of heating, caused by this utterly insane, anti scientific, fact and evidence free hysteria?

    :x

  4. jumpnmcar

    Oh good, a climate scam thread. This from the OF.

    ……Gebus!!, the peer review system works fast eh?
    This chap, one of the ” antarctic 74 ” has not been idle the last 2 days.
    .
    What, they just sat around peer reviewing shit in their spare time?
    .

    Peer-reviewed articles: published and accepted (see Google Scholar for citation counts)
    Palmer, Turney, Hogg, Hilliam, Watson, Van Sebille, Cowie, Jones, and Petchey (2014), J. Archaeol. Sci., in press.
    The discovery of New Zealand’s oldest shipwreck – possible evidence of further Dutch exploration of the South Pacific
    [ abstract | pdf @ publisher ]
    Sen Gupta, Brown, Jourdain, Van Sebille, Ganachaud, and Vergés (2014), Deep Sea Res. II, in press.
    Episodic and non-uniform migration of thermal habitats in a warming ocean [ abstract ]
    Spence, Van Sebille, Saenko, and England (2014), J. Phys. Oceanogr., in press.
    Using Eulerian and Lagrangian approaches to investigate wind-driven changes in the Southern Ocean abyssal circulation
    [ abstract | pdf @ publisher ]
    Den Toom, Dijkstra, Weijer, Hecht, Maltrud, and Van Sebille (2014), J. Phys. Oceanogr., in press.
    Sensitivity of a strongly eddying global ocean to North Atlantic freshwater perturbations [ abstract | pdf @ publisher ]
    Weijer and Van Sebille (2014), J. Clim., in press.
    Impact of Agulhas Leakage on the Atlantic overturning circulation in the CCSM4 [ abstract | pdf @ publisher ]…..

    Unfuckenbeleivable.

  5. jumpnmcar

    Peer-reviewed articles: published and accepted (see Google Scholar for citation counts)
    Palmer, Turney, Hogg, Hilliam, Watson, Van Sebille, Cowie, Jones, and Petchey (2014), J. Archaeol. Sci., in press.

    There’s a Hogg and Jones on the boat too.

  6. jumpnmcar

    Oh and a Palmer too.
    I smell rotten fish.

  7. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    As the planet marked its fourth hottest year on record, a study published in the journal Nature found increasing levels of carbon dioxide will lead to thinner ocean clouds and reduce their cooling impact, causing temperature rises of at least 5.6F (3C) over the course of the century.

    The bedwetters really are getting desperate.

  8. mareeS

    Do they realise how many people have stopped laughing, switched off, and gone onto something interesting?

    Obviously not.

    Welcome back to Semester 1 at UNSW, Prof Turney. Or perhaps not.

  9. Brett_McS

    The AGW scam is analogous to Public Service Union bargaining: The unions supply political support, the politicians ‘bargain’ and ‘reluctantly’ give them more money/better conditions, the unions supply more political support, ….., the taxpayer gets screwed.

    The scientists provide “crises” that need political solutions, the politicians give the scientists money to “solve” the crisis, the scientists discover more crises, …. the taxpayer gets screwed.

  10. jupes

    The team of scientists said the findings show some climate models have been too ‘optimistic’ and previous estimates of a minimum temperature rise of only 2.7F (1.5C) could now be discounted.

    The findings show precisely nothing. They make predictions which will inevitably be proven false. The fact that people who should know better still report this crap is disgraceful. However, while green journalists – and governments – continue to provide a market for this bullshit, alleged scientists will continue to write doom laden rubbish. That’s where the money is.

    The good news is that the great teaching moment playing out in the Antarctic ice will not go to waste. Zealots will try and cover it up with bullshit reports about global warming intensifying, but the story is being reported and it won’t go away in a hurry. There was a full page report in the Australian today. The climate scientists’ humiliation will be complete when some of the tourists on board tell their stories when (if) they get off the ice. I can’t imagine them being too happy about paying $8000 to finance this farce.

    In the mean time we can all sit back and laugh our arses off at the idiots beclowning themselves down south. It bodes well for the new year.

  11. jumpnmcar

    Here they are abandoning ship.
    Ice must be nice and thick for that big chopper to land there.

  12. mareeS

    Were any of the Cats at school in the early-60s when Marble Bar recorded 54.6F? Social studies (now climate studies) section of the schools magazine made a big deal of it. The temp was recorded at the pub, which had the only thermometer in town, not a single computer model to be found for decades.

  13. jupes

    Here they are abandoning ship.

    Rats. I was hoping for a couple more weeks on ice for the dickheads.

    The story still has a bit further to run though.

  14. jumpnmcar

    jupes

    The story still has a bit further to run though.

    Let’s hope one of the crew is a whistle blower with a gambling debt.

  15. Andrew

    While UNSW crank up the models, read WUWT today – Monckton reveals the IPCC has downgraded forecasts to lower end of a downgraded range. That means around 1K / century! At this rate, I will be a warmist by IPCC 6.

    Any science deniers want to tell us why the IPCC is wrong.

  16. Oh come on

    This isn’t a teaching moment at all, let alone AGW’s greatest teaching moment. That would surely be Climategate. Copenhagen was another – when we all found out how little the politicians were willing to sacrifice for ‘the most important moral issue of our age’ or whatever that hyperventilating, vacuous fool who used to be our PM described it as. Although I don’t think Copenhagen would have been anywhere near as catastrophic for tbe AGW cause without Climategate.

    No, the warmies getting stuck in thick sea ice down Antarctica way is just an amusing piece of irony. A stroke of most unfortunate luck. It doesn’t disprove the science underpinning AGW in any way, shape or form. Consequently, I don’t think implying that it does, or describing it as a ‘teaching moment’, is doing the skeptic camp any favours. They like to call us ‘anti-science’, and posts like these give them legitimate cause to do so.

  17. Ant

    Too many crank warmie scientists and their sychophantic journalist worshipers have placed both nuts on the line now for them to ever voluntarily give up the racket.

    They’ll go to their graves preaching fairy tales.

  18. Yohan

    I was waiting for it to happen, but already some in the love media have spun the boat being iced trapped as the result of climate change.

    Global warming causes big ice to carve off from the shelf and float free in the sea, helping to trap the boat in pack ice. That’s right, no matter what happens, either an ice free trip to the Antarctic, or being trapped in freezing pack ice, its all the result of global warming. They always win.

  19. Rabz

    its all the result of global warming.

    No, it’s all the result of Catastrophic Human Induced Climate Change™, pal.

  20. blind freddy

    jumpnmcar

    #1132111, posted on January 2, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    Oh and a Palmer too.
    I smell rotten fish.

    Yes, but ,they are all—well according to their CVs –well ———— “passionate”

  21. Aristogeiton

    Why does this constantly go unchallenged? Abbott said that the notion that the science of climate change was settled was “absolute crap”, not that “climate change [was] absolute crap”. I suppose that for these numpties the statements are identical.

  22. Yohan

    No, it’s all the result of Catastrophic Human Induced Climate Change™, pal.

    I know, I know.
    I’m still stuck in the 1990′s

  23. blind freddy

    Boy am I relieved

    “Our Legacy
    To minimise our impact on the planet, the AAE will offset its carbon emissions by planting trees etc.”

  24. gabrianga

    Professor Chris Turney’s Overview.
    Current Director at Carbonscape Holdings..
    Laureate Fellow and Professor of Climate Change at University of New South Wales

    Looks as if the absent minded Professor Turney, leader of the latest Antarctic “disaster”, the Guardian , BBC,ABC and mainstream Australian Media and has just clean forgot to mention(or conveniently overlooked) the “alternative” company, Carbonscape, he set up and is apparently still one of it’s directors.

    O f course this will not be seen by the Greens and Left as a conflict of interest nor a squandering of University funding but I would suggest Mr Abbott and Mr Hunt have a look at what our money is being used for especially if it is being used to defeat a Government policy.

  25. gabrianga

    The article in the U.K. “Telegraph” was written by PolitiFacts ace reporter John Pearlman a former Fairfax scribbler.

    If you have time or inclination it can be quite enlightening to check reports( and their authors) on Australia printed as “gospel” in the Telegraph.

    McTernan was another prime example but he seems to have gone off the radar recently.

  26. gabrianga

    These people are truly unfeckingbelievable.

    From todays BBC

    “Despite being trapped the scientists continued their experiments”

    “One of the aims was to prove how quickly the Antarctic’s sea ice was disappearing”

    Link to BBC

  27. Blogstrop

    Funny how the media went on about Costello’s “smirk”, but Karoly’s doesn’t rate a mention.

  28. johno

    Not all climate scientist are BS artists.

    Professor Michael Asten at Monash University has made the rather sensible suggestion that Tony Abbott should spend ‘some thousandths’ of the $5 billion per year he has committed to spend on his direct action plan to re-examine which global warming projections are credible, which natural changes require mitigation of effect rather than cause, and what cost-benefit parameters apply to programs targeting residual anthropogenically related climate change.

    As the good professor points out, ‘the National Broadband Network has been subjected to rigorous review and reframing, we should expect nothing less of the direct action scheme’.

    Where is the Direct Action Plan’s cost benefit analysis Tony?

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    The 6am news report on ABC Newsradio:

    1. Return of the Greempeacer to Tasmania (this is so astounding it leads the bulletin /sarc)
    2. Boatful of scientists saved! (no mention of climate armageddon)
    5. Greens call inquiry into alcohol advertising in response to king hits (which will fix the problem, yessir)

    Do they really think this is what we want to hear? That every Australian citizen is a hemp wearing vegan greenie?

    Completely mad.

  30. Tel

    As Upton Sinclair wrote, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”

    Has anyone else noticed that these bozos just take a copy of whatever is said about them and then say it back verbatim?

    I mean, they do the copy-and-paste without actually understanding the context of what the statement means.

  31. Jessie

    Dr Alexander Ladislav Mrdelka on Lubos Motl/The Reference Frame writes this piece on the [UNSW] Scientific Endeavour………………

    My Antarctic Diary

  32. Jessie

    And in case the link was missed from Lubol’s blog,
    CarbonScape Holdings Ltd

  33. James Hargrave

    Is Karoly at all aware of how stupid he looks?

    Nobody at the University of Melbourne is ever aware of how stupid they look – it’s the mirror, mirror on the wall complex that comes as part of one of those trendy, expensive and pointless sets of ‘induction’ courses.

  34. AP

    Hmmm, so let me see. This “scientist”, Sherwood, tells us that some models are wrong, because another model he devised “says so”, even though none of the models have any predictive power and fail completely in any comparison with empirical evidence? It gets better, though. Apparently, the models that are wrong are those which provide results that are CLOSER to the empirical data… and the ones that are right are the ones farther from real world observations. And this guy expects us to take him seriously?

    Here’s a word from a real scientist:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL6-x0modwY

  35. Jessie

    Nick Gerritson of ?Pounamu Productions NZ (?also Director with Chris Turney of CarbonScape) talks on board the Rainbow Warrior Jan 2013.

    Johno @6.52am In reference to your link and comment, thank you for posting.
    Wasn’t the Townsville based AIMS unable to access research vessels some years ago due to a funding decrease and thus unable to access their study environment? If this is correct, what research and by whom has been produced and published for the Barrier Reef region in the last few years to inform Asten’s 5 segments science detailed in last 3 years peer reviewed?
    Was the AIMS research funding redistributed or lost to other causes?

  36. Dan

    The interesting thing with companies like Carbonscape is the family saturation. Every brother, sister and uncle drops in some money. It’s a Pyramid scam for sure

    I’ll bet that if you turned off the government grants the lot would end up bankrupt in six months. Win win.

  37. Jessie

    Perhaps AIMS wasn’t defunded? Or alternate [non-scientific] research teams were supported at the cost of true scientists?

    The AIMS Index of Marine Industries values the sector at $38 billion per year and rising, so the stakes are high and the need for strong underpinning knowledge of marine resources has never been more pressing.

  38. cohenite

    Michael Asten is good value, as is Stewart Franks.

    Turney is either a liar or incompetent. There is no AGW happening at the Antarctic. Atmospheric and sea surface temperature show that. The former has been slightly declining for decades while the latter is really going down. As well the recent paper by Zwally et al shows sheet ice, particularly on the Eastern Antarctic is increasing. See here for a summary.

  39. james

    ABC just gave a good twenty minutes to our favourite greens MP to preach a sermon about the impending firey apocalypse.

    The two presenters nodded and added the occasional Amen.

    And to finish Adam B compared the recently released Greenpeace numpty to Nelson Mandela.

    You couldn’t make it up.

  40. egg_

    Google translation:

    His My piece is a mix of common climate change myths, misinformation and ideology,’ said Professor David Karoly, from the University of Melbourne, in an article in The Sydney Morning Herald.

  41. duncanm

    I can’t even be bothered with these clowns any more… it is so transparent.

    Fuaxfacts regurgitated something the other day about Tibooburra reaching the greatest maximum on record (150years). Now ordinarily, you would look at this and wonder, as its a remote station.

    However…

    A cursory inspection of the Stevenson screen at the post office shows that there’s been a very recent change in the groundcover under the box.

    Google street view shows a rubble/bluestone rockery around the box with dirt patch directly underneath and aroudn for a radius of a couple of metres.

    The google satellite view, and the satellite view in the LPI database (sorry, no direct link, but you can search for Tibooburra and use images as basemap. The view is much clearer than google), shows that the bare dirt has been covered by more rocks.

  42. .

    Urban heat island?

    No, it doesn’t exist. Skeptical science told me.

  43. KaaBee

    My dear old Granny had a friend who read tealeaves. If she was still alive I bet her climate change predictions would have been as reliable, if not more so, as those of the modelling done by our climate scientists.

  44. Steve

    I think this graph from Steven Goddard sums up the Sherwood paper projections best:
    http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/screenhunter_1186-jan-01-15-42.gif

  45. duncanm

    Sorry…. its actually worse than I expected.

    The fauxfacts report for the century old record of 48.4C at Tibooburra’ is for the Tibooburra airport weather station. This has only been open since 1997. The ‘record’ there beats the 2001 48.0C record… but there’s only 16 years of data.

    The Post Office station (which has been open since 1910), recorded 47.6C that day (2nd Jan 2014). This is lower than the 47.9C recorded in January 2013, and equal to the 1973 January record.

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