Obama was wrong

Well of course he was wrong but for Obama’s constituency logic and facts have nothing to do with how you should vote. It is part envy, part self delusion, part religion, part fashion statement, part greed for unearned wealth, and part guilt that gets people to vote for an incompetent like Obama and then keep on going through thick and thin. Romney was appealing to a constituency that is getting thinner on the ground: people who value personal freedom, understand the issues and want to do something about our problems in a realistic way. The media, academic world and the low information voters were a deadly combination, especially the media who now dictate terms. Someone once said he’d rather be right than president. That, you may be sure, is not the Obama mantra.

There is also a pessimism that has entered the soul of Americans, particular amongst those more or less like myself. From the article the salient opening paragraphs:

Ask people to imagine American life in 2050, and you’ll get some dreary visions.

Whether they foresee runaway technology or runaway government, rampant poverty or vanishing morality, a majority of Americans predict a future worse than today.

Whites are particularly gloomy: Only 1 in 6 expects better times over the next four decades. Also notably pessimistic are middle-age and older people, those who earn midlevel incomes and Protestants, a new national poll finds.

“I really worry about my grandchildren, I do,” says 74-year-old Penny Trusty of Rockville, Md., a retired software designer and grandmother of five. “I worry about the lowering of morals and the corruption and the confusion that’s just raining down on them.”

Imagine Rudd-Gillard only much much worse for as far as the eye can see and you can only begin to imagine just how dark the future must look to people who think hard work and effort ought to be at the core of the culture.

[Via Instapundit both here and here]

UPDATE: I just thought I’d change the title since it gets closer to the point. The original title was “Romney was right” but that’s neither here nor there. That Obama has not a success to his name – other than winning the elections – is far more to the point.

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47 Responses to Obama was wrong

  1. Nuke Gray

    Well, I disagree! One thing we can be sure of- there will still be nay-sayers in the future. In fact they’ll probably be the same people, because modern medicine is getting close to rejuvenating people! So, in forty years time, they’ll interview the same people above, and get the same answers!
    But I think life extension will be a great boon!

  2. henry

    Black rap gangsta culture is mainstream among the young. Hard working Asians will inherit the earth.

  3. Andrew

    Worse than R-G-R? Hardly. Taking the position that Obummer inherited (and then celebrated with further stimulus), since then they have undertaken budget repair of 8% of GDP – down from 12% of GDP to about 4% this year. Their PSBR is now lower than ours! Thanks to the TEA Party, who dragged Obummer kicking and screaming into spending restraint. Spending has actually fallen since 2010.

    Picture Obummer, and now assume that the balance of power in Congress was held by some kind of Green regressives rather than a party that actually wants to fix the problem. THAT’S the R-G-R govt. That’s why we had one of the worst employment performances during the G-R term, and why we have the biggest structural deficit on the planet.

  4. crocodile

    Imagine Rudd-Gillard-Abbott only much much worse.
    There, fixed

  5. Toiling Mass

    Not sure you can put Abbott in there with Rudd-Gillard. Well, not yet.

    While he has made some strangely left-leaning appointments and so far not as energetically gone after the creaking old lefty structures, he has also made some good calls that Rudd and Gillard would never have made.

    I am not enormously surprised that the Libs slowed down in the lead up to Christmas – nothing was going to be implemented but the pres, (in a press release-deprived fugue state, would let all their prejudices and vices run wild.

    Let’s wait until the first budget, and see what he makes from the Commission of Audit – does he use it as justify action or to obscure the real problems.

  6. Brett_McS

    Romney’s only problem was that he didn’t energise the blue-collar male to vote, probably because he was seen by them (probably correctly) as a part of the Wall Street crowd that is pushing for amnesty of the illegal immigrants that they have to compete with.

  7. Old people worry about the morals of the young. Well, that’s never happened before in history.

  8. Brett_McS

    Andrew (11:32) the “spending restraint” (ie the sequester) has now been bypassed, thanks to bi-partisan legislation just passed. Just let the belt out another notch or two. There, that’s better!

  9. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    They will regret the day that they bypassed the sequester.

    Sad about Romney. A real missed opportunity for the country.

  10. stackja

    media, academic world and the low information voters were a deadly combination, especially the media who now dictate terms.

    The gullible allow the media to dictate terms. TA did not allow the media to dictate terms.

    Romney’s only problem was that he didn’t energise the blue-collar male to vote, probably because he was seen by them

    because of the media, academic world and they were low information voters.

  11. It is part envy, part self delusion, part religion, part fashion statement, part greed for unearned wealth, and part guilt that gets people to vote for an incompetent like Obama and then keep on going through thick and thin

    You obviously have no understanding of the democratic principle.
    Mind you, the USA is a long way from a true democracy, given so many don’t vote.

    Ever consider that your government (and your president) is elected by popular vote?
    The meanderings of extremists who spit venom at the democratic process because they lack a genuine sense of perspective, in the long run, don’t count.

    “….. government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth…………’”

    Except when it doesn’t please a noisy and trolling minority………….

  12. H B Bear

    By 2050 most people in the US will be speaking Spanish. Hasta la vista baby.

  13. hard work and effort ought to be at the core of the culture.*

    * – unless you’re part of the wealthy elite in which case you get to leech of the hard work of the masses because freedom.

  14. candy

    President Obama has always had the “magic” or some charisma, even though Mitt Romney did better in the debates I thought. That magic may be wearing off a bit now but it’s been a potent force for him.

  15. .

    * – unless you’re part of the wealthy elite in which case you get to leech of the hard work of the masses because freedom.

    This is nonsense.

  16. Louis Hissink

    You obviously have no understanding of the democratic principle.

    Hmm, let’s see – dictatorship of the majority ?

  17. unless you’re part of the wealthy elite

    And Romney isn’t?

    Extremist logic at work…..

  18. Alfonso

    Have wonderful blue water fishing buddies who are Tradies. Intelligent men who refuse to risk any capital, yet they regard high risk sweated over market trades that, modestly, require ice in one’s veins as a casual, lucky, risk free lotto win that they deserved but were never “given” the correct info on. Better to laugh than cry.
    Australia’s convict past shaped the bogan present.

  19. Pedro the Ignorant

    The US is not, and never has been a true democracy.

    It is a Constitutional Republic. The elected representatives swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, not (insert party here) politics.

  20. The US is not, and never has been a true democracy.

    So why does it proudly claim to have fought wars for “democracy”?

    Since WW2, most of them unsuccessful – Vietnam, for example, and most recently Iraq.

  21. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    I do declare I am first to sight the inevitable “Vietnam War” citing – in a thread discussing what the US president (small “p”) is doing 44 years later.

  22. I do declare I am first to sight the inevitable mick (small m) using ad hom abuse to derail the discussion.

  23. Ant

    Obama has been a catastrophe in the making for the USA.

    Globally, he undermines his own country’s security and he’s a laughing stock projecting weakness and an embarrassing level of naivety that will have consequences decades from now in ways that can not even be imagined.

    The bulk of his support base consists of bludging malcontents who have had the flames of their envy and fear fanned by the Democrat Party machine exploiting their ignorance and stupidity.

    Their existence relies largely on the pilfering of the public treasury and the pockets of wealth creating individuals – the latter being relentlessly strangled through big government thievery and ever more onerous regulations.

    Oblivious to all of this is the media class and the well to do urban sophisticates who project nothing issues, such as the “War On Women” and fake race issues, onto the conservative movement as though real issues, such as mass unemployment, chronic multi generational welfare dependency, the colossal debt, unfunded liabilities and Obama’s foreign affairs embarrassments, somehow don’t exist if only they can keep the idiot low info types in the dark about what’s really going on just long enough to get Hilary elected in 2016.

    Obama and the Democrats have been hugely fortunate during his presidency that the leftist media class have turned out to be as sickeningly sychophantic as they are and that his Republican opposition in Congress is as pathetically timid as they are, displaying an almost criminally inept level of political incompetence.

  24. Bear Necessities

    One of the main problems with the US has been festering for decades long before Obama became President. Neither Republican or Democrats can do anything about it. US rankings for High School educational outcomes have fallen compared to other like nations for the last 30/40 years. The US public education system has suffered under “Numbers” type administrators who have gamed the system for themselves and not for the students. People talk about Obamacare being the major issue in the US at the moment but for mine the declining standard of high school education should be just as high an issue.

  25. displaying an almost criminally inept level of political incompetence.

    Daily on display by the extremists who post here.

  26. Brett_McS

    Bear, and it is not as if the amount of money being spent on K-12 is getting less. Quite the contrary, an increasing amount is being thrown at it just to tread water, or to sink less slowly.

    There is a good Glenn Reynolds interview (with Ed Driscoll) on this topic just up on PJ:

    http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2014/01/05/interview-glenn-reynolds/

  27. Dan

    Democratic values General Numbers. Iraq didn’t have them, or Afghanistan. The whack jobs previously running those countries murdered their own people willy nilly for expressing themselves. Just like Uncle Ho, Chairman Mao…

    You know. Democratic values such as Common law, like Habeas Corpus. (Your personal favourite)

    Free speech.

    Trial by your peers.

    Anyway, when are you beginning the Great March Backwards to Burke?

  28. Brett_McS

    The excellent CoffeeAndMarkets podcast guys predicted that Obama would get re-elected – contrary to almost all other conservative outlets – and now they are talking as if Hillary! is inevitable. [bangs head against wall]

  29. Democratic values General Numbers.
    Now I get it – they weren’t fighting for “democracy” – just “democratic values”.
    That’s alright then:)

  30. Democratic values such as Common law…

    So when is the US going to spread its democratic values to all those countries with governments based on civil law…?

  31. Oh come on

    In the same way that you wouldn’t bother enthusing over the 2014 Jaguar XJR with an Amish bishop, there is no point discussing matters of liberty with leftists.

  32. stackja

    Brett_McS
    #1137669, posted on January 6, 2014 at 3:26 pm
    The excellent CoffeeAndMarkets podcast guys predicted that Obama would get re-elected – contrary to almost all other conservative outlets – and now they are talking as if Hillary! is inevitable. [bangs head against wall]

    With new NYC mayor as VP.

  33. Andrew

    Andrew (11:32) the “spending restraint” (ie the sequester) has now been bypassed, thanks to bi-partisan legislation just passed. Just let the belt out another notch or two. There, that’s better!

    I wouldn’t worry – unless they reinstated 7% of GDP we’re not going back to Obamaville.

  34. JohnA

    Nuke Gray #1137358, posted on January 6, 2014 at 10:58 am

    Well, I disagree! One thing we can be sure of- there will still be nay-sayers in the future. In fact they’ll probably be the same people, because modern medicine is getting close to rejuvenating people! So, in forty years time, they’ll interview the same people above, and get the same answers!
    But I think life extension will be a great boon!

    Nick, maybe you need to remind yourself of what has been considered on the issue of longevity already.

    I recommend you study Isaac Asimov’s Robot series, and ponder the depressing view he has of centralised control, crowded planet, strict class segregations etc. contrasted with his highly optimistic view of technology and robotics.

    Have a good look at “The Caves of Steel” where he debates the philosophical question of longevity and fragile health (among the Spacers, via Dr Han Fastolfe).

  35. (NB: Posted after title update.)

    Obama Was And Remains Wrong.

    FIFY.

  36. Abu Chowdah

    By 2050 most people in the US will be speaking Spanish. Hasta la vista baby.

    Yes, and it will have reached total shithole status, as language is a strong determinate of cultural inertia or success.

    http://www.amazon.com/Through-Language-Glass-Different-Languages/dp/0312610491/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_z

  37. Tel

    The original title was “Romney was right” but that’s neither here nor there. That Obama has not a success to his name – other than winning the elections – is far more to the point.

    So he’s a specialist then. Makes sense in the modern economy that the best of the best performers should be only good at one thing and nothing else.

  38. james x leftie

    Racism is alive and well in America.

  39. Cool Head

    I am an ex-pat in the US working on a couple of tech start-ups and about to return home
    There are both good and bad things happening in the US:
    There is effectively economic apartheid with blacks and Hispanics filling low paid jobs while living in areas where the school system is bad (no escape, except for the very exceptional). The medium wage has dropped by over 10% in the last 5 years badly hurting this group, and there is massive inter-generational debt. This debt is much larger than the published federal Govt debt, many states are close to bankrupt and most public pension funds are not funded.
    Generally, if you are white your income is higher, your kids go to better schools (better than Australian standard) and get into the high value job stream, which is a totally different economy.
    Underlying all of this is a possible coming boom based on cheap energy. There is no carbon tax (contrary to the view expressed by the ABC/Fairfax) and the fracing for gas is massive here. Already energy intensive industries are onshoring back from Asia. My personal energy bills here are less than one quarter of my current Aussie bills (measured by unit consumed). So with energy cost penalties (carbon tax, REITs, etc) being introduced in Europe and Oz the US is suddenly gaining a huge competitive advantage where energy and a highly educated workforce is needed. Added to this is the massive innovation in the space that I work in (analytics, high tech). When working in this space you encounter the smartest people from all around the world, only about half of the people I encounter on a daily basis are originally from here. The US is a smart person high tech magnet and this industry is large.
    There are some good things happening here don’t write them off just yet.
    Looking forward to coming home and paying 4 times as much for a house and 3 times as much for a car.

  40. Cool Head

    I forgot to mention – yes the Govt is hopeless and like all left Govts is heavily punishing the poor people. The median income drop comes from the nuking of the better paid lower middle jobs. Where I work incomes have been rising fast. Quality, well qualified people make a lot of money here.

  41. lardybloodydar

    Cool Head, I’ve been looking to possibly go to work in the US but was less optimistic about it than even this place. Interested in your observations that qualified people can do well – I’m an electronics engineer with nearly 20 years experience in the manufacturing and automation. Where should I be looking ?

  42. Makka

    “Daily on display by the extremists who post here.”

    Why, Why is this permitted from a Communist?

  43. Makka

    “There are some good things happening here don’t write them off just yet.”

    Agreed. It really is folly to write off the U.S. Huge parts of the nation are constantly renewing even while many others sink lower into the sewer. Biotech, medical devices and research, robot technology, technology , chemical engineering and all manner of various energy related technologies are cutting edge and forging ahead.

    The Left are working hard at wrecking the joint and with it the lives of millions. Predicting the future in that regard is exceedingly problematic.

  44. HK_Brother

    Obama…Think of Gillard and Rudd. Then muliply by 9000. Replace gender war with race baiting.

  45. Cool Head

    Lardybloodydar,
    Don’t know about a specific place for your specialty. It’s like anything else you need to find a specific opportunity. I found mine (ours) through established personal contacts, a mixture of NY VC and SC entrepreneur. Good luck.

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