In defence of ASIO

The SBS is running a series attacking ASIO. This is a disgraceful and biased account attacking a fine and vital Australian institution committed to protecting our national security.

Is it coincidental that the SBS series is being broadcast soon after seditious individuals tried to subvert ASIO’s assessment of the security risk of some so-called ‘asylum seekers’?

I admire the people who work at ASIO and the other security institutions. They lead a difficult life, having to carefully watch what they say and what they do. It is an anonymous life of devoted service to the country. They are subject to ad hominem attacks, constrained by the job from defending themselves from those cowardly attacks.

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70 Responses to In defence of ASIO

  1. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    SBS attacking ASIO?

    Well bugger me.

    Who’da thunk it??

    Don’t worry, it’ll end soon and they’ll be back to the normal programming schedule of lotsa norks and wogball.

  2. Geriatric Mayfly

    The hype for this bastardry has been mounting, and the trailers are now following one another in sinister succession. There’s enough of a glimpse in the trailer footage alone, of commos, pinkos, agitators and assorted Left wing trash, to make this series compulsory non-viewing.

  3. Johno

    The Left has always been paranoid about Australia’s security organisation.

    Some of it is a hangover from the Cold War when the Communist Party operative in Australia wanted to discredit ASIO to stop it from uncovering their subversive activities.

    I doubt that it is coincidental. The Left have become so obsessed with the illegal arrivals that they are seriously losing perspective.

    Abbott really must privatise both their ABC and SBS. There are no justifications for government owned media in a liberal democracy.

  4. Percy

    The SBS is running a series attacking ASIO

    How wise. The movements of some foreign correspondants just earned some extra attention.

  5. Robert Crew

    I can understand that the purposes to which we put our intelligence agencies can be described as fine, and vital, but the work itself is by it’s nature of the vilest sort. What intelligence agencies “do” necessarily involves theft, blackmail, prostitution, and murder, nothing they do is untainted. It is one thing to say that our society needs people like that, quite another to laud them for it. Generally, we permit them to operate on the understanding that they focus their criminal attention on our enemies, and not our allies (or god forbid! our own people).

  6. TI3VOM

    “The SBS is running a series attacking ASIO”

    Time for ASIO to step on their appendages and give everyone a laugh at what a bunch of klutzes they are.

    Clearly it’s been too long since the last display of inept behaviour and people have begun to fear they actually are doing their jobs.

    For those who think all intelligence work is tainted and nasty, just remember, so is terrorism and other crimes against the state.

    The same people of course demand to know what ASIO was doing when something slips by them.

    We are safer for their work, though it is difficult for them to publicise success.

  7. Riverina Matt

    Now, with every ethnicity in Australia a mere satellite dish away from all the mother tongue media content they could ever want, it is time to close SBS. Its charter is obsolete.

    It’s continued existence has little to do with the needs of the “effniks” and a lot to do with the North Fitzroy/Balmain set wanting their own government funded television station.

  8. Riverina Matt

    It’s = Its. Bloody auto spellcheck!

  9. .

    So, what has ASIO actually done wrong?

    SBS and the ABC are unecessary. As soon as there was widespread broadband and a good search engine…so I’d say they were toast in about 2005.

  10. C.L.

    It has always been a leftist tactic to ridicule ASIO – as, for example, when its mouthpieces mocked the organisation for monitoring David Stratton’s shameful visit to the Soviet embassy for the purpose of gaining accreditation to attend a film festival in Russia in 1969. I wonder how many non-compliant Russian artists were imprisoned and slaughtered in that year alone.

    But HO HO HO, TEE HEE HEE – ASIO was watching dear old David.

    As well they should have been.

  11. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    Robert Crew,

    Our defence forces are far, far worse.

    They train themselves constantly to shoot, bayonet, burn, blow up, scald, drown, behead, choke, knife and maim other human beings.

    The horror!

    And then we honour them and give them shiny medals!

    As Orwell said, “Those who ‘abjure’ violence can do so only because others are committing violence on their behalf.”

  12. JC

    Clive Hamilton suggested the then liar party government should unleash the security services against climate sceptics. Not a whisper about this suggestion from the left. In fact Combet put happy Hamilton on the board of the climate authority.

    Rhiannon is a human trash senator.

    What’s SBS reporting on again? Oh yea commos undermining their nation in the cold war. .. Lol.

  13. lem

    Who watches SBS? seriously?

  14. Now, with every ethnicity in Australia a mere satellite dish away from all the mother tongue media content they could ever want, it is time to close SBS.

    Agreed. It has served its purpose. What you can’t find on satellite for a fee, you can find on YouTube for nothing (often subtitled) – you just have to look hard enough.

  15. Motelier

    Who seriously watches SBS?

    FTFY

  16. Christian Kerr

    I’m 99.95 per cent with Samuel J on this, but there’s some real PC Plod stuff in the Lee Rhiannon files I’ve spent the last few years working – some missing cross referencing that I would have though any public service shinbyum would fix, least of all our intelligence agency. It’s this sort of stuff that has let people who have been the friends of our enemies dismiss the security forces and create the culture that has let SBS’ silly program come about. ASIO haven’t exactly done themselves many favours by resisting the release of files that show just how the Brezhnev era Soviets indulged their local pets – and how those lap-dogs of tyranny loved having their tummies rubbed.

    PS: Those interested in media policy should be looking at SBS very closely. There is some justification for its radio services. On the other hand the TV network … and when one public TV network is gone …

  17. Infidel Tiger

    Who watches SBS? seriously?

    With porn so widely available there is no reason for it.

  18. WhaleHunt Fun

    focus their criminal attention on our enemies, and not our allies (or god forbid! our own people).

    Our own people ARE the enemy. Do you not recall what crawled back from the claws of the Americans after Afghanistan; what is slithering around Syria today, including some local academics; what passed for years as the local leader of a religion of hate.

    This place is full of things that deserve the full Mossad, followed by forced repatriation to their homeland with a colourful opinion of Allah tattooed on their forehead.

  19. Luke

    I’ve almost lost all respect for Abbott and most of the current mob. If this is what tax funded leftist institutions are getting away with now, how bad will they be with the return of Labor – something they are working overdrive to bring about sooner rather than later.
    People forget this sh%% gets repeated with the message spelled out for school kids and at universities. It’s not a one off airing that maybe most people don’t watch. It gets to it’s target audience – the young, impressionable and naïve voter.

  20. John Mc

    ASIO are a bunch of glorified public servants. They perform a valid and necessary function, but because they’re a spy agency they’re given a while lot more kudos than they deserve. Largely this is by the bye, but at times it gets used to justify why they need to be a bigger and more expensive organisation than they need to be.

  21. WhaleHunt Fun

    So, what has ASIO actually done wrong?

    Failed to lobby for the right to torture.

  22. Andrew

    Gee, ABCSBS undermining the national interest – who’d have thunk it?

    Waiting for the ABC tomorrow to report this military and diplomatic success:

    ”He told me that Indonesia should understand if Australia drove back undocumented migrants attempting to enter the country using Indonesian boats or if any Indonesians were found aboard,” General Moeldoko reportedly said. ”I have agreed. Therefore, we don’t need to feel offended.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-defends-governments-closed-book-approach-to-asylum-seeker-policy-20140109-30isy.html#ixzz2puIkzdba

    and slam the idiots who said boats couldn’t be turned back without bringing on konfrontasi. In fact, the job of the meeja is to sing about it on the front pages and as the lead article on the TV. Any political party that said “it can’t be done” while pretending to want to “stop the boats” should be dismissed as gutless and incompetent – kowtowing to Indonesia and failing the national interest. Tony Burq should be especially pilloried as the fuckwit who said the LNP policy was “in tatters” before 3 SIEVless weeks.

    Reckon it will happen?

  23. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    The reffos and other insurgents TV service is ever so fortunate it can run this critique in Australia.

    If they put on this stunt in Saudi about the National Security Council, in Zimbabwe on the CIO or in Pakistan featuring the Intelligence Bureau their studio would be rubble, smoke and burning flesh by Monday.

    The world is now but a mouse click away and there is no longer a need for the SBS to educate ignorant Australians about effnik colourfulness, delicious goat kebabs and the stunning beauty and honest simplicity of Islam.

  24. Lysander

    I’d comment but that’d give away my role.

  25. Robert Crew

    @Walrus the distinction I’m making, is that a “necessary evil” is still, by definition, evil. Acknowledging the existence of, and the need for that evil to exist, should not be confused with supporting evil, and the work of spies is defined by the evil means they use to work towards supposedly noble ends. I’m glad that ASIO exists, but I wouldn’t invite one of their number into my house – how can trust exist with someone who (at a minimum) lies for a living? It may be naïve, but I’ve always found that the choice between the “lesser of two evils” is a false one, because it takes as it’s premise that being evil is a valid choice. The existence of armies is also an evil, one we only tolerate because we’d rather have our army here than someone else’s. Getting back to the topic of espionage, noone has any real oversight of what they are doing, since as General Alexander showed, the people we trust to oversee these cretins have no idea what they are up to; they feel as free to lie to the oversight committees we set up to control them, as they do to the public; and they use international agreements to mutually spy on each other, thus neatly avoiding all of the legal restrictions on spying on their own people. Again, while I’m glad in the Orwellian sense that these “rough men stand ready”, that does not mean they should be praised for the blatantly criminal acts they engage in.

  26. Baldrick

    The SBS attacks an organisation that keeps Australia safe from nefarious people who would be the first to attack the SBS for promoting ethnic, political and racial diversity.

  27. Failed to lobby for the right to torture.

    “Nothing but bacon and endless repeats of Teletubbies and Barney the Dinosaur for you until you renounce terrorism and tell us what we need to know.”

  28. Yohan

    When Gough Whitlam came to power in the 1970′s and the leftists gained control of the apparatus of government they reversed the role of ASIO.

    They started going after, investigating and harassing right wingers. I know of people in the Croatian community here in SA that came under ASIO investigation under Whitlam. The ASIO files that they managed to gain access to showed the information that led to them being investigated was fabricated and had came from the Soviet Union.

    No joke, these people has fled Communist Yugoslavia at the end of WWII, but were still being harassed decades later by Moscow, who dutifully gave files and information to our progressive Whitlam Government.

  29. Yohan

    To be more specific, they were targeting anyone who was a vocal and public critic of communism and the Soviet Union in their local community immigrant newspapers, which Moscow obviously was compiling intelligence on.

    Croatians, Lithuanians, Poles e.t.c all immigrant groups who has fled the Soviet Union and who’s home country was under communist occupation.

    When a pro communist friendly government like Whitlam’s Labor came to power, the first thing they did was send the Labor party all their intelligence on these people. The Moscow claims were these people were trying to form Nazi Fascist groups, were stockpiling weapon arsenals, were agitating to overthrow the Labor government, were criminal gangs dealing drugs and on and on.

  30. Tom

    If Australia is to have a network devoting to boosting ethnic separatism and politicking on behalf of the Green Left activist minority, time to let it be funded by its audience. Like the ABC, SBS can never be reformed to make it accountable to the public interest in its current form because guaranteed public funding frees it of any obligation to serve any audience beyond mouthing the platitudes in its “charter”. So it serves whatever political clique has the ascendancy in its public service staff collective.

  31. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    Robert Crew,

    I don’t think you know what these people actually do. It’s a lot less sordid than you imagine.

    Christian Kerr,

    Your unspoken suggestion is one to gladden the hearts of many. Unfortunately, seeing it through would require a government other than Abbott’s Social Democratic Party to conceive and carry out. Maybe David L’s LDP can show them the way in July.

  32. Perfidious Albino

    Robert Crew. God forbid we ignore the enemies within. What’s more, this is absolutely ASIO’s remit, ASIS being the primary foreign intelligence agency.

  33. Abraham

    @ Whale Hunt for Fun …

    This place is full of things that deserve the full Mossad, followed by forced repatriation to their homeland with a colourful opinion of Allah tattooed on their forehead.

    You’re soft approach ought to be hardened up a bit. :-) Personally, I’d let them all stay for free in Paddington especially along Oxford Street here in Sydney where they can share lattes and kebabs with ‘Will and Grace’-types.

  34. The only problem with “Persons of Interest” is that it is wrongly billed as documentary.
    It’s actually comedy, as is ASIOs capacity to maintain its own security.
    ASIO – Love child of incompetence and paranoia……

  35. TI3VOM

    It’s actually comedy

    there you go, now everyone can go back to ignoring them

  36. Abraham

    Numbers …

    I assume an astute patriot such as yourself could easily do a better job securing this truly amazing country and the good fortune we have to live in Australia? Why ASIO should cease immediately all screening of every goat-herding, opium-growing ‘refugee’ as a compassionate citizen such as your good self would obviously welcome them with arms wide open. I commend you sir, you’re a scholar and a gentleman.

  37. Steve of Glasshouse

    ABC radio the other day was a running a piece on the Australian intervention into Indonesian Borneo in 1965/66. It was interesting, but, why dredge it up now ? I believe the ABC did a tv piece on it back in 2007.
    Operation Claret btw

  38. Steve of Glasshouse

    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

    George Orwell

  39. Perfidious Albino

    Nambour State High. Wayne, Kevin and Numbers. If ever there was more than one reason needed to have an institution razed and the earth salted…

  40. Mater

    Again, while I’m glad in the Orwellian sense that these “rough men stand ready”, that does not mean they should be praised for the blatantly criminal acts they engage in.

    Robert Crew,
    I acknowledge your feeling on this issue but do any of these people undertake these ‘criminal’ acts for personal gain? To me, that is the defining factor. Many such people (Military or other agencies) have sold their souls to the devil on our behalf. I see no reason to condemn them prematurely. They receive, and will continue to receive, my respect and gratitude. There will always be a seat at my table.
    I am reminded of this poem:

    THE FINAL INSPECTION

    The soldier stood and faced God,
    Which must always come to pass.
    He hoped his shoes were shining,
    Just as brightly as his brass.

    ‘Step forward now, you soldier,
    How shall I deal with you ?
    Have you always turned the other cheek ?
    To My Church have you been true?’

    The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
    ‘No, Lord, I guess I ain’t.
    Because those of us who carry guns,
    Can’t always be a saint.

    I’ve had to work most Sundays,
    And at times my talk was tough.
    And sometimes I’ve been violent,
    Because the world is awfully rough.

    But, I never took a penny,
    That wasn’t mine to keep…
    Though I worked a lot of overtime,
    When the bills got just too steep.

    And I never passed a cry for help,
    Though at times I shook with fear.
    And sometimes, God, forgive me,
    I’ve wept unmanly tears.

    I know I don’t deserve a place,
    Among the people here.
    They never wanted me around,
    Except to calm their fears.

    If you’ve a place for me here, Lord,
    It needn’t be so grand.
    I never expected or had too much,
    But if you don’t, I’ll under stand.

    There was a silence all around the throne,
    Where the saints had often trod.
    As the soldier waited quietly,
    For the judgment of his God.

    ‘Step forward now, you soldier,
    You’ve borne your burdens well.
    Walk peacefully on Heaven’s streets,
    You’ve done your time in Hell.’

    Author Unknown~

  41. Des Deskperson

    My experience with ASIO – which may or may not be typical – is that it is extraordinarily risk-averse, its assessments of people in particular tending to be based on an unreasonable (and counter productive) guilty until proven innocent approach.

    ‘ASIO are a bunch of glorified public servants’

    My experience with ASIO, and with the ‘Intelligence community’ in general, is that it is overstaffed by ex-ADF personnel forced to retire because they haven’t reached a certain rank before reaching a certain age. I’ve seen many examples of poor and unusable product from these people, mediocrities and worse.

    I’ll admit that my experience is about a decade old and that I’m aware that ASIO in particular has been trying, with some success, to recruit younger, smarter people in recent years.

  42. Token

    ABC radio the other day was a running a piece on the Australian intervention into Indonesian Borneo in 1965/66. It was interesting, but, why dredge it up now ? I believe the ABC did a tv piece on it back in 2007.

    The question is not if but how many howlers they made in such a program.

  43. Tel

    What intelligence agencies “do” necessarily involves theft, blackmail, prostitution, and murder, nothing they do is untainted. It is one thing to say that our society needs people like that, quite another to laud them for it. Generally, we permit them to operate on the understanding that they focus their criminal attention on our enemies, and not our allies (or god forbid! our own people).

    The Australian agency responsible for intelligence outside Australia is called “ASIS” and operates separately. What “ASIO” does is just spy on Australians, so our government knows what’s going on and of course no political party can ever resist using the apparatus of government to harass their political opponents; but that’s going to happen with any government department, hence the reason why a smaller government is better than a larger givernment.

  44. cuckoo

    If it’s showing on SBS then it will probably be seen by fewer people than viewed the original surveillance films.

  45. incoherent rambler

    The commonwealth security organizations certainly contain many public servants, they also contain a number of dedicated individuals who in many cases put their lives on the line so that we have the freedom to complain about them.

  46. Anthony

    If we didn’t have the SBS, the ABC and Fairfax, how on earth would we ever know that the truth can be spun in so many different ways? A good, current example is the reporting of the Indons attitude towards the Australian boat strategy. The free media reports that the Indon military and political arms say they agree with the Australian position, then Fairfax and their running dogs report that possibly some lower level pollies don’t agree with Australia and, according to unnamed sources, the head of the Indon military might, just possibly, have been misquoted. Marty the lefty from ANU says one thing to one audience and another to a different audience – similar to the behaviour of the Greens and the ALP in Australia. One thing is sure though, Marty is shit-scared to attack the Indon military in the lead-up to an election.

  47. jupes

    Hizb ut-Tahrir recently had a go at ASIO, urging Muslims not to cooperate with them.

    Coincidence?

  48. jupes

    I’m 99.95 per cent with Samuel J on this, but there’s some real PC Plod stuff in the Lee Rhiannon files I’ve spent the last few years working – some missing cross referencing that I would have though any public service shinbyum would fix, least of all our intelligence agency.

    Yeah that’s a shame. Keep up the good work on that commie harridan Christian.

  49. C.L.

    Christian and Des make good points.

  50. james

    I might be wrong but i was always under the impression that ASIO was not particularly competent.

    Then again, maybe that’s just what they WANTED me to think.

  51. struth

    Finally got a response back from Malcom Turnbull’s office regarding my complaint about the ABC’s biased and treasonous activity , especially of late. I can guarantee you, going by the response, this government won’t be doing a thing about it.

  52. james

    Struth if the libs aren’t worried about losing votes on the right they simply won’t care.

  53. egg_

    Its charter is obsolete.

    It mainly mirrors ABC1 anyway – there’s always the World Movies channel on Pay TV which its interpreter service et al make most revenue from anyway.
    A restructuring/merger of Aunty/SBS is highly called-for, time to kill off/merge a few channels and save the taxpayer much ‘waste’ Mr Hockey?

  54. Pedro

    struth, they wouldn’t tell you in advance anyway, you could be an ABC stooge.

    I don’t care about SBS’s motive (much), always good to keep an eye on ASIO and it’s ilk because abuses do happen.

  55. egg_

    If it’s showing on SBS then it will probably be seen by fewer people than viewed the original surveillance films.

    Reminiscent of the line of when Salman Rushdie was in hiding in Oz due to a fatwa – reading the News on SBS…

  56. jupes

    Finally got a response back from Malcom Turnbull’s office regarding my complaint about the ABC’s biased and treasonous activity , especially of late.

    Any chance you could post it struth please?

  57. struth

    Dear Peter

    Thank you for your email and kind words of support.

    The Australian Government provides an overall level of funding for the ABC, but has no power to direct the ABC in relation to operational matters. Parliament has guaranteed this independence to ensure that what is broadcast is free of political interference. Regarding the ABC and Guardian Australia reports on intelligence activities in Indonesia it is important to note that internal programming and editorial decisions are the responsibility of the ABC Board and Executive. One of the ABC’s statutory obligations is to be accurate and impartial in its news and current affairs programmes according to the recognised standards of objective journalism. The ABC did contact Australian authorities in regard to the material and subsequently redacted some information following discussions with relevant agencies.

    Under the ABC’s Editorial Policies, all news and current affairs content is required to be accurate, impartial and objective and, thereby, free of bias. The ABC’s editorial polices are published on the ABC’s website at:
    http://about.abc.net.au/reports-publications/editorial-policies/

    You may wish to write directly to the ABC about your concerns. This can be done by writing to Audience and Consumer Affairs, GPO Box 9994, in your capital city, or by lodging the complaint at http://about.abc.net.au/talk-to-the-abc/lodge-a-complaint/ through the ABC’s website. This will ensure that the ABC is directly aware of your concerns and has an opportunity to respond to them. If you are not satisfied with the ABC’s response, you may refer the matter to the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) for investigation. The ACMA is the independent body responsible for the regulation of broadcasting, radiocommunications, telecommunications and online content.

    In addition, the ABC Board is required to develop codes of practice relating to programming matters and to lodge these codes with the ACMA. ABC programming must be in line with its codes. Complaints made to the ACMA about the ABC must relate to its codes of practice.

    More information about making a complaint to the ACMA can be found at http://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/Take-action/Complaints/Broadcast-complaints/complaints-about-the-abc-or-sbs on the ACMA’s website.

    You may be interested to know that on 11 December 2013 the Chair of the ABC, the Hon James Spigelman AC QC, announced a series of independent editorial audits of its news and current affairs programs. The first of these audits will examine ABC radio interviews of the then Prime Minister and then Leader of the Opposition during the 2013 election campaign. The next audit will consider the ABC’s treatment of the debate on asylum seekers. The ABC intends to undertake four external audits of its news and current affairs services each year and will publicly release the audit’s findings.

    Yours sincerely

    Malcolm Turnbull

  58. stackja

    Morshead, Sir Leslie James (1889–1959)
    From 1950 he headed ‘The Association’, a secret organization prepared to oppose communist attempts at subversion. It was quietly disbanded in 1952. Morshead had had a brief connexion with a similar movement in the mid-1920s.

    ASIO assumed the mantle of opposing communist attempts at subversion.

  59. David

    deserve the full Mossad

    Well done Whalehunt. A new verb to be added to our rich and expanding language.

    To be Mossaded – [verb]. To undergo serious adjustment of attitude. Sometimes terminal.

    :-)

  60. David

    Struth – what a load of cod’s wallop that reply is.

    Seriously what did you expect from the Socialist Member for Wentworth?

    Perhaps they could be subjected to Whalehunt’s new process and “be Mossaded”.

  61. jupes

    Thanks for that struth. It confirms my worst fears.

    struth, they wouldn’t tell you in advance anyway, you could be an ABC stooge.

    Having read the letter, I seriously doubt that Pedro.

  62. struth

    There is a very big matter of principle and integrity wrong with that reply.
    He has no concept of “the taxpayer”, and his responsibilities to them.
    This aloof brush off is an insult to anyones intelligence and probably the main reason I wrote to him is to get what I thought would be the case, straight from the horses mouth.
    If the Libs fill their ministries with this, than the next vote will definitely be LDP.

  63. jupes

    There is a very big matter of principle and integrity wrong with that reply.

    Actually there’s two.

    The ABC’s trashing of the national interest as well as publishing state secrets requires a far more serious response than just advising a disgruntled taxpayer to send a complaint to the ABC or ACMA.

    Surely the minister has the responsibility to direct the AB fucking C not to do that and/or to punish them when they do.

  64. struth

    How can we truly believe Abbott has any idea, when he puts Malcom in charge of “communications”
    The one thing Abbott has to do, is communicate to Australia. The shit always starts at the top.
    In a business, you put the wrong managers in place, and you’re screwed.

  65. Abu Chowdah

    I can understand that the purposes to which we put our intelligence agencies can be described as fine, and vital, but the work itself is by it’s nature of the vilest sort. What intelligence agencies “do” necessarily involves theft, blackmail, prostitution, and murder, nothing they do is untainted.

    Wow. Australian agencies do all of that? We need a royal commission!

  66. Abu Chowdah

    The Australian agency responsible for intelligence outside Australia is called “ASIS” and operates separately. What “ASIO” does is just spy on Australians, so our government knows what’s going on and of course no political party can ever resist using the apparatus of government to harass their political opponents; but that’s going to happen with any government department, hence the reason why a smaller government is better than a larger givernment.

    Extraordinary, if true. Again, clearly they need a thorough clean out.

  67. Notafan

    Isn’t Julie Bishop quietly rattling the ABC’s cage over what is broadcast on the Australia Network and its failure to meet its contracted obligations for soft diplomacy?
    I am hoping that contract will go back out to tender. I am also hoping for an an announcement by Mr Turnbull along the lines of Australian households now show a marked preference for obtaining their news and entertainment on line. In many areas the ABC and SBS are competing with each other as a consequence this government has decided that SBS should now be subsumed into the ABC. This will create estimated savings of 500 million per annum through reductions in administrative costs and better use of modern technology.

  68. jupes

    I am hoping that contract will go back out to tender.

    Why waste money. The tender has already been won and not by the ABC.

  69. Paridell

    Notafan, you will be disappointed to learn that late last year Malcolm Turnbull made a triumphant ministerial visit to SBS. Much love was proffered on both sides. Mr Turnbull hailed the managing director as a clear descendant of the Ptolemies, and in return he was feted by the assembled masses. So your hope that Mr Turnbull will subsume SBS into the ABC is, most likely, vain.

    A historical note: it was the Hawke Labor government that last tried to subsume SBS into the ABC. The Opposition, then led by John Howard, had two bob each way, approving the measure in principle but opposing it in Parliament on the grounds that it was premature. Such are the vagaries of history. If John Howard found it convenient to oppose a subsumption, how likely is it that Messrs Abbott, Hockey and Turnbull will now proceed?

    Samuel J, you appear to have forgotten that both ASIO and SBS are government organisations and are therefore to be condemned. Quite a number of correspondents above remind you of your lapse!

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