Open Forum: January 11, 2014

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  1. C.L.

    Good to see Tenner heresiarch Fisk move closer to mainstream perpetualism.

  2. lotocoti

    are there any updates regarding developments building on the groundbreaking Soviet psychiatric medicine programme?

    I understand a direct injection of 7.45 to 8.04 grams of Cu and Pb is yet to be bettered.

  3. Gab

    sfb needs to be zapped with the cryogenics tool kit. He’s not going to change regardless of the amount of re-education treatment applied but in the interests of science put him into a deep freeze and thaw him out in around 50 years time. Then place him in a museum for others to see and hear what the bedwetting melty alarmists were like back in the day.

  4. Infidel Tiger

    No, Steve. The lefts position is that there is no “Gold Standard” for parenting. They will have you believe that fractional reserve parenting is equally as good.

  5. Hey Rabz. Thanks. If you ‘see’ him can you let him know I’ve done that post I promised him? Cheers.

  6. Rabz

    Then place him in a museum for others to see and hear what the bedwetting melty alarmists were like back in the day.

    Homo Climatus Bedwettus, C 2014.

  7. Pedro

    I think he’s mainly wrong anyway. Kids aren’t fucked up because of family break up. They’re fucked up because of fucked up parents, meaning people who take to many drugs, steal things, are violent, etc. The sort of people who never get married or have disasterous marriages. Low conscientiousness explains it all.

    Being a supporter of individual rights and responsibilities, I’m not in favour of class labelling as an instrument of govt.

  8. Fisky

    Steve, who advocates a ban on everything and reversing the Industrial Revolution, wants to go back much, much further than the 1950s.

  9. stackja

    Latest NSW Police Media Releases
    Three charged after police assaulted during public order incident – Greenhill, near Kempsey
    Monday, 13 January 2014 03:24:35 PM
    Three teenagers have been charged following an alleged public order incident at Greenhill, near Kempsey, yesterday.
    Police were called to River and Frank Archibald streets about 7am (Sunday 12 January 2014), following reports of a public disturbance.
    Officers from Mid North Coast Local Area Command attended and spoke to a 17-year-old male who was allegedly intoxicated and acting aggressively.
    A number of people confronted the officers, threatening to assault them before a member of the group threw a beer bottle at a police car.
    Three males – aged 28, 19 and 16 – were arrested and taken to Kempsey Police Station where they were charged with assault police and affray.
    The 19-year-old man was bail refused to appear at Kempsey Local Court today (13 January 2014).
    The 28-year-old man was given bail to appear at Kempsey Local Court on 24 February 2014; while the 16-year-old will appear at a children’s court on 25 February.
    Meanwhile, investigations are continuing into the assault of a man at a bowling club on Polwood Street at West Kempsey on Saturday (11 January 2014).
    Police were told a 54-year-old man had been punched to the head by another man while attending a birthday party at the club.
    The man suffered a broken jaw and remains in John Hunter Hospital.
    It’s alleged the group involved in the public order incident had attended the birthday party the previous evening.

  10. IT, to be fair, I do find Left wing relativism on the matter annoying too. But Right wing complaints about it are provocative for no good reason unless they are going to combine their complaint with actual plausible policies that have a chance of implementation.

  11. jupes

    World revered leader (by the Left) says “Says U.S. is Greatest Violator of Human Rights”

    Surely not. What has the Zionist Entity done to have it’s title taken away?

    Khamenei is going soft in his old age.

  12. stackja

    Latest NSW Police Media Releases
    Police officer injured during attempted arrest – Harris Park
    Monday, 13 January 2014 12:24:56 PM
    Police are appealing for witnesses after an officer was injured during an attempted arrest in Sydney’s west today (Monday 13 January 2014).
    Just before 9am, police attached to Parramatta Highway Patrol stopped a Toyota Prado in Wigram Street, Harris Park, after it allegedly failed to stop at a stop sign.
    A male senior constable approached the driver, who allegedly refused a request to produce his driver’s licence.
    The officer asked the driver to hand over the car’s keys; this request was also refused.
    In response, the officer opened the door and informed the man he was under arrest.
    It’s alleged the driver then started the car and drove off at a speed of about 20km/h.
    The senior constable was dragged for a distance of 25 metres. When he released his grip, the officer fell to the ground, sustaining grazes to his right arm and left palm.
    Police have launched an investigation into the incident, and now wish to speak to a man who may be able to assist with their inquiries.
    The man is described as being of Caucasian appearance, aged 40 to 50, with an obese build and grey beard. At the time of the incident, he was wearing a fluorescent-yellow work shirt.
    The car involved in the incident is described as being a late-90s model, blue-and-silver Toyota Prado.

  13. JC

    Don’t you just love the modern extended “family”… kids from various marriages, the occasional molestation…

    Mia Farrow kid tweets.

    Ronan FarrowVerified account ‏@RonanFarrow

    Missed the Woody Allen tribute – did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?

  14. stackja

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  15. bystander

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #1148872, posted on January 13, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    While the debate about civil liberties flickers and flares here … Rarely do they shoot up the wrong house and kill innocent bystanders by mistake.

    Hey, enough of the shooting!

  16. Token
    “Your argument does not stand. Saying the standard family is the gold standard does not diminish other forms of family which evolve when the best model fails.”

    So first is best but second is just as good?

    Pedro, ask any child who has lived through the experience where the parents were not abusive in any way, but didn’t want to be together. (i.e. first is best)

    If the mother, father or both are negliful or abusive then the second is better than the first.

    It is simple.

  17. JC

    Blended families, as referred to by Bill Shortened.

  18. Token

    negliful neglectful or abusive…

  19. Token

    Blended families, as referred to by Bill Shortened.

    Are those the ones created by dumping your first wife at the footie?

  20. C.L.

    Daniel Christie’s killer charged with murder.

  21. stackja

    C.L.
    #1148981, posted on January 13, 2014 at 4:21 pm
    Daniel Christie’s killer charged with murder.

    If guilty. 50 years in prison.

  22. Bear Necessities

    Don’t you just love the modern extended “family”… kids from various marriages, the occasional molestation…

    Mia Farrow kid tweets.

    Ronan FarrowVerified account ‏@RonanFarrow

    Missed the Woody Allen tribute – did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?

    Did Roman Polanski provide a tribute?

  23. Empire Strikes Back

    Daniel Christie’s killer charged with murder.

    That would be alleged killer.

    If guilty. 50 years in prison.

    Why not for the term of his natural life?

  24. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From stackja at 4:09 pm:

    ” Latest NSW Police Media Releases
    Three charged after police assaulted during public order incident – Greenhill, near Kempsey”

    If you know Kempsey you’d be entitled to assume a group of no description is likely to have been involved.

    “A number of people confronted the officers, threatening to assault them …”

    In days past the next lines would read:

    Whack! Thud.

    “Alright then, which one of you brave plicks wants to go next?”

    The crowd swiftly dispersed.

    In more modern, enlightened times a magistrate, now retired, would push her way to the front to take this case so that she could snarl:

    “You mongrel bastard coppers deserved to be called mongrel bastards every day of your miserable lives and twice on Sunday, because you arrested my drunken brother 30 years ago and turned up at my home in 2007 to intervene in my drunken rage and serve me with an apprehended violence order. Case dismissed.”

  25. twostix

    I mean something else, namely that it doesn’t matter what you think of SSM or single parents, that’s just opinions unless you actually do something to engineer a different outcome in society.

    It’s a little hard to “actually do something” when whenever someone raises the Hate Facts that children in step families are twice as prone to abuse and mental illness and children in modern “blended” families that again, some people go into conniptions and then duly wheel out the widowed mum and orphans.

    To which the other day I asked whether the discrimination would have applied to my widowed mum.

    Nice angle breaking out the D word but no, why would it? Widows have always been protected and elevated in western society. Sorry, actually, they were up until the left cynically grouped widows together with Jody and her 5 kids to 3 fathers under the umbrella term “single mums” when they were using widows as a rhetorical battering ram in the ’90′s to normalise Jody’s lifestyle.

  26. stackja

    Empire Strikes Back
    #1148995, posted on January 13, 2014 at 4:34 pm
    Daniel Christie’s killer charged with murder.
    That would be alleged killer.
    If guilty. 50 years in prison.
    Why not for the term of his natural life?

    Shaun McNeil, 25, after 50 would be 75 and probably broken by prison. Life sentence in prison is not definite enough. Some lawyer will try to get it cut.

  27. Organising society so as to have stable families is not helped by a few things of relatively recent provenance: girls reaching puberty at younger and younger ages; people living to older and older ages; and more and more people (especially women) getting tattoos.

    I’m not entirely sure the mechanism as to how tattoos have caused erosion of civil society, but it seems clear that they have.

  28. Infidel Tiger

    That would be alleged killer.

    No, he has admitted to punching him. There is no doubt whatsoever that he killed him. The argument is now about intent and whether he ever had a puppy growing up.

  29. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From bystander at 4:16 pm:

    ” … Rarely do they shoot up the wrong house and kill innocent bystanders by mistake.

    Hey, enough of the shooting!”

    Duck mate (or relocate from Greenacre)! :)

  30. stackja

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #1148997, posted on January 13, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    Have not been to Kempsey in about 50 years. I assumed they were colourful characters. Magistrate was colourful too.

  31. twostix

    Kids aren’t fucked up because of family break up.

    Said no young child involved in a family break down ever.

  32. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From stackja at 4:42 pm:

    ” Empire Strikes Back

    If guilty. 50 years in prison.
    Why not for the term of his natural life?

    … Life sentence in prison is not definite enough. Some lawyer will try to get it cut.”

    Didn’t a couple of attacks in Sydney with similar results cop thumping four year sentences, just last year?

  33. twostix

    But Right wing complaints about it are provocative for no good reason unless they are going to combine their complaint with actual plausible policies that have a chance of implementation.

    This guy was warning that the entire human race was going to die soon.

  34. stackja

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #1149023, posted on January 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm
    Didn’t a couple of attacks in Sydney with similar results cop thumping four year sentences, just last year?

    Yes. Now magistrates and judges will now need to be careful.

  35. nic

    If you know Kempsey you’d be entitled to assume a group of no description is likely to have been involved.

    Steve, my same thoughts, especially as Stack’s other report concerning an incident in Parramatta refers to the alleged miscreant’s description.

  36. JC

    Organising society so as to have stable families is not helped by a few things of relatively recent provenance: girls reaching puberty at younger and younger ages; people living to older and older ages; and more and more people (especially women) getting tattoos.

    I’m not entirely sure the mechanism as to how tattoos have caused erosion of civil society, but it seems clear that they have.

    You know what even more offensive than when you do you essayist hat on stepford. It’s when you’re the pensive thoughtful analyst.

    The climate models, stepford. You need to get your head around the fact they’re fucked.

  37. JC

    oops …when you don your essayist hat…

  38. nic

    Just reading a piece online in the SMH about Bali. Que lots of umbraged comments about ‘bogans’ . The degree of loathing by people who really do see themselves as superior to others is quite breathtaking. I know bogans exist and they travel to Bali and anywhere Jetstar flies to that are cheap. We all know that a few of them are embarassing, but frankly, what’s changed? Australians have always been like that. In Bali itself, the nintang singlet brigade can easily be avoided. I don’t get the social superciliousness that exists from people who normally whine about equality and the need not to be judgemental.

  39. twostix

    The climate models, stepford. You need to get your head around the fact they’re fucked.

    Steve thinks that all we have to do to stop the entire human race from dying is get the entire world to agree to stop producing carbon dioxide.

    On the other hand reforming the Single Parent Benefit, and family law is definitately not “plausible”.

    He’s very pragmatic.

  40. stackja

    Golden Globe Winner: ‘This Is Way Better Than Saving a Human Life’
    The twisted priorities of Hollywood liberals were once again on full display during Sunday’s Golden Globe awards.
    During his acceptance speech for the best TV comedy series, Dan Goor, the co-creator of the show Brooklyn Nine-Nine, said that he was happy he opted not to become a doctor because winning this award was “way better than saving a human life”

  41. stackja

    Liberty Quotes
    “The Cat is colourful, prolific, often very funny and actually (given the laissez faire mod policy) one of the few places where comment threads regularly offer a diversity of perspectives – though you’d wonder at the possibility of masochistic tendencies in some of the lefty regulars.” — Geoff Honnor

  42. JC

    On the other hand reforming the Single Parent Benefit, and family law is definitately not “plausible”.

    He’s very pragmatic.

    Highest carbonic tax in the world, highest electricity prices in the developed world… all this is possible.

    Reforming family law? Next to impossible.

    That’s comes from a conservative leaning blogger.

    Stepford still hasn’t got his head around the fact that climate models are in deep shit… so deep they will never get out of the sewer.

  43. stackja

    nic
    #1149044, posted on January 13, 2014 at 5:02 pm
    Just reading a piece online in the SMH about Bali.

    Did not the SMH think this clever?

  44. Oh, so dipstix thinks family law reform is needed to help keeps families together?

    Back to proving fault for divorce, is it? Look, I guess with those drones with little cameras on them now, getting the photo of the infidelity happening through the bedroom window could be easier than ever, but apart from that aspect of futuristic fun, I can’t see that reforming the way ended relationships get the legal divorce is going to help much.

  45. nic

    Stack, I don’t think the SMH sees itself as being descended from Bazza, which is ironic as it was funded and produced by luvvies. Luvvies in those days had a better sense of humor.

  46. jumpnmcar

    Back to proving fault for divorce, is it?

    Good idea.
    The kids involved need an external official source to apportion blame rather than be confused by the, sometimes nasty and contradicting , blaming from both sides.
    They to often get confused at a young age and blame themselves with terrible results.

  47. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From nic at 5:02 pm:

    “… reading a piece online in the SMH about Bali. Que lots of umbraged comments about ‘bogans’ . The degree of loathing by people who really do see themselves as superior to others is quite breathtaking. … I don’t get the social superciliousness that exists from people who normally whine about equality and the need not to be judgemental.”

    That’d be the Labor commentariat musing about those it cares most for, wouldn’t it?

    It wouldn’t be me – I use judgmental every day to determine if I should stop at traffic lights (and to avoid a couple of bogan infested shopping centre food courts near here) and inequality is a similar naturally occurring characteristic of life.

  48. candy

    Perhaps deterring girls from having babies out of wedlock, and especially with different fathers, may be a factor in social change for the better.

    Making changes to the single parent pension might be the answer. I used to think it was too awful to be tough on the single parent pension but I’m changing my mind on that one now. It might be the only way of reducing the number of vulnerable infants being born into bad social situations. Maybe.

  49. JC

    Wodge Watch. The new face of the public intellectual.

    Strangely enough, or maybe not, well known climate sceptic Richard Lindzen is supportive of this evangelical climate change denying group There could be a link between faith as in religion and faith as in modern business practices (eg follow our 5 step plan to personal wealth) however I also wonder if a little bit of proper religious instruction could assist students to be less susceptible to doubtful and dodgy marketing practices as employed by both (some) religious groups and business.

    But probably not, philosophy would be a better subject.

  50. .

    In response to Steve the failed troll:

    1. Yes.
    2. Not necessarily.

  51. Riverina Matt

    The degree of loathing by people who really do see themselves as superior to others is quite breathtaking … I don’t get the social superciliousness that exists from people who normally whine about equality and the need not to be judgemental.

    Reminds me of David Williamson’s cruise of horror!

    Still David is a friend of the lower classes:

    Not that our fellow passengers didn’t have their good points. Warmth and affection within families was genuine, and civility to other passengers was the norm. These were by and large affable people.

    So generous of him to allow that bogans love their families too (although I am sure he thinks they do – only that they show “affection”) and they are civil.

    Lefty snobbery is not the exception, it is the rule. They loathe the people they pretend to give a shit about.

  52. JC

    Perhaps deterring girls from having babies out of wedlock, and especially with different fathers, may be a factor in social change for the better.

    Making changes to the single parent pension might be the answer. I used to think it was too awful to be tough on the single parent pension but I’m changing my mind on that one now. It might be the only way of reducing the number of vulnerable infants being born into bad social situations. Maybe.

    They should be used as an examples to others what grinding absolute poverty looks like. Their families can look after them.

  53. Back to proving fault for divorce, is it?

    Good idea.

    Yes, why not go back to hotel detectives and people signing themselves in as “Mr & Mrs J Smith.” This would not only help families but would re-invigorate the business of devising movie and theatrical sex farces enormously.

  54. tomix

    Boganophobia- dread of deeply repressed bogan impulses.

  55. JC

    Stepford

    You need to get your head around the fact climate models are fucked- dead in the water. Only then should you discuss other stuff. It’s all up to you, as I’m only here to help you through it.

  56. Pickles

    There’s no point attempting to reform family law until we face the reality.

  57. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Tinta, a little reply for you from me regarding your suggestion re ‘the little bridge’, on Rafe’s psych book thread, ie. some future time but not just yet. In and out now, gotta go. Moving back to Sydney has a very long ‘to do’ list.

  58. nic

    Matt, lol, I had forgotten Williamson. This bit reminded me out of something a first class passenger would say of the proles in steerage at the turn of the 20th century:

    Not that our fellow passengers didn’t have their good points. Warmth and affection within families was genuine, and civility to other passengers was the norm. These were by and large affable people.

  59. JC

    Fuck it, I’ve had enough. I just purchased an anti-bark dog collar for this little bastard of a dog we have. We’ve tried everything, trainers, bringing him in and sending him to his bed whenever he barks at other dogs from the landing outside. The little prick perches himself on the landing and waits for other dogs walking down the street to bark at.

    Now the fucker is going to be zapped every time he barks and the degree of electric charge he receives in the neck will be dependent on how he behaves.

    This is a variation of the medical remedies found in the Fisk doctrine. Instead of electric shock treatment to the temples, dogs get it in the neck.

  60. Mike of Marion

    Doom and Gloom – ALP/Greenfilth 52.5% 2PP
    http://www.roymorgan.com/

    About time Abbott stopped sucking his thumb!!

  61. squawkbox

    Matt, lol, I had forgotten Williamson. This bit reminded me out of something a first class passenger would say of the proles in steerage at the turn of the 20th century:

    Not that our fellow passengers didn’t have their good points. Warmth and affection within families was genuine, and civility to other passengers was the norm. These were by and large affable people.

    I’m surprised Williamson didn’t give each of them a shilling to drink his health.

  62. d-b is always listening to this Levin dude and praising him, isn’t he?:

    Conservative talk-radio host Mark Levin is defending himself against charges that he engaged in a quid-pro-quo transaction with the Senate Conservatives Fund, promoting the right-wing group after it spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on his book.

    Since Sept. 10, SCF has spent $427,000 on copies of Levin’s “Liberty and Tyranny,” according to Federal Election Committee filings. Those books were given to donors who provided $25 or more to the group.

    In that time, Levin has frequently promoted the SCF on his show and on his Facebook page. “Senate Conservatives Fund is dedicated to electing true conservatives to the Senate!” Levin wrote in one post. Levin did not disclose the SCF’s purchases to his listeners.

    No wonder he likes them so much.

  63. JC

    Mike, Stop panicking.

    The betting markets are showing.

    1.35 libs, 2.90 liars.

    Nice and steady.

  64. JC

    Stepford

    The climate models. Stop losing your focus as you need to confront it.

  65. Doom and Gloom – ALP/Greenfilth 52.5% 2PP

    Time for monty and I to do our hi 5′s again.

    Abbott should just resign and get the pain over with fast. He’ll still get a raft of ex PM benefits, won’t he? Maybe he’ll be able to afford business class in retirement.

  66. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From JC at 5:55 pm:

    “… I’ve had enough. … this little bastard of a dog we have. … he barks at other dogs from the landing outside. The little prick perches himself on the landing and waits for other dogs walking down the street to bark at.

    Now the fucker is going to be zapped every time he barks and the degree of electric charge he receives in the neck will be dependent on how he behaves.”

    Recently heard emanating from Chez JC:

    “Here Monty, come on Monty – in for dinner and a zap now … Monty!”

  67. By the way, “Repeal Day” is just too transparently a bit of PR fakery. Peta’s idea, I assume.

  68. Gab

    Somebody pay SFB some attention. He’s getting very snarky.

  69. JC

    Interesting betting on the next leadership challenge. Looks like Tubbsie is in a bit of trouble. Not surprising seeing she’s basically hated except for the biggest lunatic followers of that fascist group.

    Christine Milne 1.45
    Bill Shorten 3.60
    Tony Abbott 4.00

  70. blogstrop

    News Flash for SFB – Labor lost!

  71. C.L.

    No, he has admitted to punching him. There is no doubt whatsoever that he killed him. The argument is now about intent and whether he ever had a puppy growing up.

    Correct. But the dinosaur media are required to say “alleged” for legal reasons.

    You know, because the fat animal might sue News Ltd while he’s awaiting trial in jail.

  72. JC

    Recently heard emanating from Chez JC:

    “Here Monty, come on Monty – in for dinner and a zap now … Monty!”

    Interesting idea, there Mick.

    We could develop a leftwing collar. Ever time they talk about leftwing ideas, or even post about them on blogs, they receive a good sized zap in the neck. The collar of course would have a lock on it and a homing device.

  73. C.L.

    Ageing battered wife, Hillary Clinton, to rely on vagina-ism to win White House.

    Left-wing women in the West now – quite literally – have no idea.

    It’s all, “elect me – I have a vulva.” How are they different from hookers?

  74. srr

    Touchy touch phone makes trying to separate, highlight and comment on points, but I’m. Sure some here will see the very unsettling details scattered throughout this QLD VLAD Law apologetic in The Australian:


    QUEENSLAND’S police commissioner has again apologised to law-abiding motorcyclists after one rider said he’d been pulled over 21 times since the bikie crackdown began.

    Jamie Edward Evans has filmed police quizzing him about his clothes, associations, friends and line of work after he was pulled over at a Brisbane service station.

    In the video, which has been posted online, Mr Evans tells officers he’s a member of a social motorcycling group called the Misfits and complains of being constantly pulled over amid the crackdown on criminal gangs.

    Footage of the interaction – which involved more than half a dozen officers and several police vehicles – has been viewed 246,000 times since it was posted on social media on Saturday.

    Mr Evans tells officers he’s fed up with being pulled over by police for no reason, and he says he has no respect for police.

    When asked why he’d said he hated police, Mr Evans replies: “Because you’ve pulled me over 21 times for no reason and I’ve had two infringements and I’ve fought them both in court and won them both because they were bogus. I’ve got no respect for cops, I’m sorry.”

    Today, Police Commissioner Ian Stewart again apologised if any recreational riders had been inconvenienced amid the crackdown. He said there was an up side to the video: that it showed police carrying out a respectful and professional intercept.

    “Some good people in the community, including recreational motorcyclists, are going to be inconvenienced and I’m sorry if that’s happened to Jamie,” Mr Stewart told ABC radio.

    But he said the footage showed “a good level of respect on both sides, and a very professional intercept”.

    He said the crackdown was having the desired effect, and most people in the community supported what police were doing.

    “I’m absolutely sure we’re having a great effect against the criminals in our society who belong to criminal motorcycle gangs,” he said.

    He said the Misfits was not one of the criminal gangs named under the state’s new bikie laws.

    AAP has attempted to contact Mr Evans.

    AAP

  75. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Interesting betting on the next leadership challenge

    Isn’t betting on any leadership challenge in the Labor Party slightly complicated by the fact that Shorten is rumored to be plotting against himself?

  76. JC

    How are they different from hookers?

    I can’t see any. At least hookers do perform a service for payment and most johns would be happy.

    Emily listers and other assorted leftwing female political trolls can’t even do that.

  77. C.L.

    At least hookers do perform a service for payment and most johns would be happy.

    Great point.

  78. srr

    …difficult…ggrrr iPhone! …anyway, while I’m still here:

    How many more times would he have to be pulled over before they recognised him as not a baddie, or was it the video posting that finally aided the recognition skills of the police?

  79. C.L.

    srr:

    Yobbo posted the video itself on the booze thread.

    Here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TMOiMopMCU

    Unbelievable.

  80. MacBeth

    About two hours ago we had an earthquake here – epicentre approx 3km away.
    Some local panic, loud rumbles, rattled houses etc.
    1) I didn’t hear it – deafness increasing day by day. 2) Didn’t feel it – numb backside due to sitting a computer for too long. I miss all the fun.

  81. srr

    “Some good people in the community, including recreational motorcyclists, are going to be inconvenienced and I’m sorry if that’s happened to Jamie”

    , 21 Times!

  82. nic

    It’s all, “elect me – I have a vulva.”

    All under the banner of ‘equality’ and addressing difference by emphasising , well, difference.

  83. srr

    you’ve pulled me over 21 times for no reason and I’ve had two infringements and I’ve fought them both in court and won them both because they were bogus.

  84. hzhousewife

    Fuck it, I’ve had enough. I just purchased an anti-bark dog collar for this little bastard of a dog we have. We’ve tried everything, trainers, bringing him in and sending him to his bed whenever he barks at other dogs from the landing outside. The little prick perches himself on the landing and waits for other dogs walking down the street to bark at.

    Now the fucker is going to be zapped every time he barks and the degree of electric charge he receives in the neck will be dependent on how he behaves.

    This is a variation of the medical remedies found in the Fisk doctrine. Instead of electric shock treatment to the temples, dogs get it in the neck.

    May my husband and I recommend the app ” dogwhistle” – orange dog on a white background

    Over the last three months we have retrained multiple neighbourhood dogs from yap to silence. Highly recommended. Perfect for walkers.

  85. Shorter CL (and many others here, including women): women are too stupid to work out which politician best promotes their interests.

  86. nic

    women are too stupid to work out which politician best promotes their interests.

    Yes, male politicians emphasise their gender as a reason people should vote for them./sarc

  87. Steve of Glasshouse

    JC..all this talk about 45o volts and zapping dogs. I wanna know; is the power from renewable sources.?

  88. tomix

    you’ve pulled me over 21 times for no reason and I’ve had two infringements and I’ve fought them both in court and won them both because they were bogus.

    I think it’s called “hunting” up here. Good luck to Jamie, he’s pretty game.

  89. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From JC at 6:17 pm:

    ” Recently heard emanating from Chez JC:

    “Here Monty, come on Monty – in for dinner and a zap now … Monty!”

    Interesting idea, there Mick.

    We could develop a leftwing collar. Ever time they talk about leftwing ideas, or even post about them on blogs, they receive a good sized zap in the neck. The collar of course would have a lock on it and a homing device.”

    But if the zap occurs on only one side of the neck that would have Monty going in circles … oh, wait. As you were.

  90. JC

    JC..all this talk about 45o volts and zapping dogs. I wanna know; is the power from renewable sources.?

    Yes. The leftie neck zapper will be attached the a solar panel and green energy from the grid. I’m thinking the leftie neck collar needs to have the same strength in terms of zappability as a tazer. You want these fuckers going into seizures and lots of mouth foaming.

  91. kae

    lots of mouth foaming

    Er, how do you tell it’s working?

  92. JC

    But if the zap occurs on only one side of the neck that would have Monty going in circles … oh, wait. As you were.

    Naaa. It will be adjusted for weight. No one’s getting up after a decent zapping.

  93. Dianne

    Left-wing women in the West now – quite literally – have no idea

    May have been mentioned earlier, but saw a promo on ABC24 for a program tomorrow (?) Plibersek & matey….comment from matey along the lines of ….everytime I see Tanya on television, it is exactly what she is like….

    So there we have it – she is a screeching fishwife 24/7

  94. JC

    Er, how do you tell it’s working?

    Every transgression will lead to a higher charge like the bark zapper I bought. The leftie neck collar however will by necessity have to go to a level that will lead to termination if the transgressor is found to be hard core non-compliant. But keep in mind these are lefties and by definition respond to authority. There won’t be any transgressors after the few zaps.

  95. Carpe Jugulum

    Er, how do you tell it’s working?

    Uncontrolled twitching, the inability to recognise a skinny soy latte with a vanilla twist and wallowing in a puddle of their own filth.

    But mostly wallowing in a puddle of their own filth.

  96. JC

    Mentioning or even obliquely suggesting say something like da inequality will zap them into seizure. key words like poverty, the GINI coefficient, fairness, greed… all these words would be targeted at the highest possible zap.

  97. kae

    I’ll try that again, I don’t think we’re on the same page.

    lots of mouth foaming

    Er, how do you tell it’s working*?

    (*they always foam a the mouth)

  98. JC

    What breed JC ?

    Leftwingers or the dog?

    Leftwingers, all breeds, all colors, but mostly beta males and loud mouth females.

    Dog.. Labradoodle.

  99. JC

    I’ll try that again, I don’t think we’re on the same page.

    lots of mouth foaming

    Er, how do you tell it’s working*?

    (*they always foam a the mouth)

    A termination zap is considered a fail, kae. I’d be very disappointed when that happens as human life is valuable… even someone like Clive Hamilton. In his case I can’t honestly figure out why though.

  100. Steve of Glasshouse

    Well done Kae..

  101. srr

    21 times, and again they ask if his bike’s modification are done to our compliance standards?
    Like he’s going to pay an engineer a fortune, get it stickered, and then go and tinker with it after the second, third, tenth, eighteenth time they pull him over?

    And what the hell happened to being encouraged to wear leather for it’s skin saving properties, but what, now in QLD they want them riding in boardies, thongs and singlet?

    And, this is what only one bloke who got one of his harassment’s on video and on youtube, what the hell are all the rest being put through?

  102. feelthebern

    Your dogs territorial.
    Put it in the laundry or bathroom each night (with water of course).
    Don’t give into the barking or whimpering.
    It will drive you nuts for the first few nights.
    Do that for the next 6 months and you’ll have a well behaved dog.
    If you’re already doing that, well I feel sorry for you.

  103. harrys on the boat

    The lefty neck brace could be much like a criminals ankle bracelet. To be worn for the 20 year Fisk Doctrine period, it zaps the lefty whenever it talks shite. Impossible to remove and also provides a GPS position so the lefty can be zapped if it wanders somewhere that we don’t like or isn’t adhering to the curfew.

  104. Gab

    You’re right, ‘Bern. The dog probably runs the house. JC you need to assert your dominance as you’re the leader of the pack not the mutt.

  105. JC

    Do that for the next 6 months and you’ll have a well behaved dog.

    He’s be locked for too long. Six months is a long time. We’ve spent bloody thousands on the bastard trying to get it out of him and the zap is the final straw.

    We take him for a walk and he tries to attack every fucking dog that gets near him making it a nightmare.

  106. JC

    You’re right, ‘Bern. The dog probably runs the house. JC you need to assert your dominance as you’re the leader of the pack not the mutt.

    Gab, it was my kids fault, she ruined him. Every time he was disciplined for something, he’d get a kiss and a hug by her.

  107. Gab

    Also, a whack on the nose with a rolled up newspaper every time the mutt doesn’t obey is effective, especially when he takes you for a walk, JC.

  108. Gab

    ooops..Freudian…I meant, especially during those times when you walk the mutt.

  109. Mike of Marion

    JC
    #1149117, posted on January 13, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Rest assured JC, I’d not vote for the ALP/Greenfilth as long as I live.

    What was interesting about the Morgan Poll was that I was not contacted this month!!! Perhaps my request to them that the LDP should appear in all their drop-down screens was too much for Morgan!!!!

  110. feelthebern

    The confined space of a night trick will cure all problems.
    Depends how patient you are.

  111. candy

    Maybe the dog is just extremely social and gets lonely easily.

  112. Steve of Glasshouse

    Gab..careful with the newspaper recommendation. You’ll cop a monster fine if you hit a dog with a copy of the SMH; cruel and unusual punishment.

  113. Rudiau

    We take him for a walk and he tries to attack every fucking dog Lefty that gets near him making it a nightmare.

    Like father like son.

  114. Gab

    Yeah, there’s most likely laws against doing that, SoG. Leftards control everything.

  115. Steve of Glasshouse

    Gab..any paper bar the SMH..

  116. srr

    Oh JC how could you! A Labradoodle?

    They are the original Lefty Animal Liber Plot Dogs. They have hoards of once dog loving people, signing petitions to have all dogs ‘freed’ from the indignity of being enslaved by humans…because few dare admit the cunning ‘dumb’ mutts totally own their ‘owners’.

    ha, I did a favour of dog sitting one once, for dyed in the wool and dead in the head Lefty Vegans [BIRM].
    So committed to VEGANISM that they made the huge beast of a dog, a vegan to!
    Packed up his little daily rations in zip-lock bags and all.

    The Dog Was INSANE, until we went, bugger that, and fed it meat ;) :)
    Quite gratefully, obediently loved us from the first taste of blood!

  117. Infidel Tiger

    srr:

    Yobbo posted the video itself on the booze thread.

    Here it is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TMOiMopMCU

    Unbelievable.

    That fat slag moll copper needs a boot to the slats. What a fascist land whale.

  118. Infidel Tiger

    Brilliantly be done by that vigilante social bike rider. Fuck the Queensland police.

  119. Empire Strikes Back

    So committed to VEGANISM that they made the huge beast of a dog, a vegan to!
    Packed up his little daily rations in zip-lock bags and all.

    Last time I checked, canines are carnivores. You should have unleashed the RSPCA on them for cruelty.

    Evidently, PeekStoopid is but a blur on the far horizon.

  120. Pickles

    That fat slag moll copper

    Peppa asked him why he was wearing a vest on such a hot day. Camera then pans across to all the other coppers wearing vests festooned with more junk than batman.

  121. blogstrop

    Just In case you missed it, from thread “Welcome To The Loony Bin”: (note the mention of PTSD)
    “DAVID BELL explores failures of Medicine and the Law to expose false, but treasured,beliefs. He describes the mythology that developed around epidemics of witchcraft and pseudo-illness, through the mass hysteria of repetitive strain injury (RSI), to the still popular post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). The complaints promoted by a health and legal disaster-based industry contrast with the sad products of genuine disasters. The promotion of pseudo-illness by psychiatrists, the courts, media and the public seems unstoppable until the epidemic becomes as ludicrous as it is intolerable.”

  122. nic

    Peppa asked him why he was wearing a vest on such a hot day. Camera then pans across to all the other coppers wearing vests festooned with more junk than batman.

    Yeah. He should have said that the leather vest was for safety reasons. My blood would boil having that drop out from kindergarten teaching lecture me as if she was some sort of social worker.

  123. Rudiau

    And the ABC just keeps getting better.
    Virginia Trioli to host flagship ABC radio current affairs program “AM”. How’s the diversity!

    This is from The Australian newspaper this afternoon. Virginia Trioli can be relied on to rigourously enforce the ABC’s philosophical homogeneity at AM. Balance anyone?

  124. .

    Mike of Marion
    #1149219, posted on January 13, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    JC
    #1149117, posted on January 13, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Rest assured JC, I’d not vote for the ALP/Greenfilth as long as I live.

    What was interesting about the Morgan Poll was that I was not contacted this month!!! Perhaps my request to them that the LDP should appear in all their drop-down screens was too much for Morgan!!!!

    That’s funny, the LDP pretty much delivers the Liberal party manifesto, which the Liberal party has consistently and constantly failed to do.

  125. That bikie was a whole lot more cooperative with the coppers than I’d have been.
    By the time an unwarranted stop/intercept is over, I’ve usually got ‘em worked up to the point where they want to shoot me or something.
    But then again, were I to ostetatiously video them, they’d likely tone it down a bit in the first place.

  126. .

    JC
    #1149216, posted on January 13, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    You’re right, ‘Bern. The dog probably runs the house. JC you need to assert your dominance as you’re the leader of the pack not the mutt.

    Gab, it was my kids fault, she ruined him. Every time he was disciplined for something, he’d get a kiss and a hug by her.

    Hahaha!

    Hilarious.

    I hate cats, but a cat would put that hilarious little bastard in his place.

  127. JC

    That’s funny, the LDP pretty much delivers the Liberal party manifesto, which the Liberal party has consistently and constantly failed to do.

    LOl… I’ve been saying that forever. All we want is for the Liberal party to simply deliver on its manifesto. We’re not asking for much. It’s laughable that the LDP is prepared to and the Liberal party isn’t.

    We’re not expecting much as we know it’s not a libertarian party, but just stick to guiding principles- that’s all we want.

  128. Brian of Moorabbin

    Wikipaedia (sic)

    They have their own online encyclopedia now?

    Never in forty years have I come across nay (sic) veteran who believes this.

    Comedy Gold.

  129. C.L.

    Peppa asked him why he was wearing a vest on such a hot day. Camera then pans across to all the other coppers wearing vests festooned with more junk than batman.

    Ahahahahahaha.

    You’re right. Didn’t notice that.

  130. stackja

    Steve at the Pub
    #1149300, posted on January 13, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    Police video Carnita Matthews

  131. Tel

    Egats Steve, what turned you around? Yesterday everyone who walked past a motorcycle at any time in their life was an “outlaw” but today the police are the bad guys. I know for a fact that my rhetoric isn’t that convincing.

    Anyhow, speaking of evidence, existing laws not being enforced and certain patrons causing trouble, how many cameras do you have in operation? They are cheap you know, and the technology is getting better all the time, not fuzzy any more and storage space is no longer an issue. If you haven’t got cameras up, at least put up prominent posters to convince people that you do.

    If you want to be polite about it, make a note that all footage is deleted after 7 days of consecutive non-violence. Anyhow, there’s cameras on every street corner in most major cities so people learn to live with it.

  132. Gab

    I hate cats, but a cat would put that hilarious little bastard in his place.

    I don’t hate cats nor do I hate dogs but for labradoodles I’ll make an exception. (sorry, JC but I cannot tolerate them. )

  133. Police video Carnita Matthews

    Yes Stackja, I remember that case, hehehehe….

  134. Armadillo

    Any ‘Catsters’  out there want to share their  boundless knowledge and advice with the technologically challenged? I had an epiphany late last week. Yesterday I decided to  ‘belt the keyboard’ for a few hours and I sent  off a proposal to a leading Australian company.

    They got back to me earlier today, somewhat surprised. The concepts in the proposal have them intrigued and fascinated. The managers discussed it at length. Some of the ideas are things they had never considered. They are curious and want to help me BUT….there is always a but.

    Firstly, they have IT staff committed to long planned promotions. Secondly, it is difficult to calculate revenue. It is simply the ‘nature  of the beast’. It could go absolutely gangbusters (and it certainly has the potential to do so) or it could take a while to get a return. It’s difficult to predict.

    The concept would be of particular interest to this website (being about economics) but also generally every type of politics/news/social website.

    Anyway, these guys have suggested I convert the concept into ‘an app’ which sits on the customer’s website. WTF? Like I know what an ‘app’ is (vaguely).

    The company is more than happy to help by providing advice on the whole ‘appy thingy’ and how it interacts with them. They said I could go to an ‘app designer’ or alternatively I could approach a University and students might do it for free. I have Googled and can’t find anything? Anyone know which Universities provide the that?

    Alternatively, I like the idea of ‘teaming up’ with one of these ‘appy  dudes’ and coming to an (ahem) agreement. There are plenty of options in relation to licencing fees and profit sharing. Can anyone recommend a good ‘appy dude’?  Having someone who knows about the technological side and with ‘skin in the game’ would be beneficial. FMD. The other stuff is simple.

  135. Tel
    #1149329, posted on January 13, 2014 at 8:42 pm
    Egats Steve, what turned you around? Yesterday everyone who walked past a motorcycle at any time in their life was an “outlaw” but today the police are the bad guys. I know for a fact that my rhetoric isn’t that convincing.

    What turnaround?
    Please copy any paste either text, or link to where I made any comment about a motorcycle, or called bike riders “outlaws”.
    Read for comprehension Tel, it’ll save you quite a deal of humiliation.

  136. .

    I’ve struggled to watch those cops harrass that bloke in that video, and Campbell Newman must be removed from office.

    He is the greatest threat to Australian liberty and civil order.

    Once more, for posterity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TMOiMopMCU

    “When you say social motorcycle club, what does that mean?”

    Well. I am really struggling not to insult the intelligence of cops here.

  137. Gab

    Can’t help you, Armadillo expect to wish you lots and lots of money from your venture.

  138. nic

    “When you say social motorcycle club, what does that mean?”

    Just as well he wasn’t wearing the Canadian sports brand, Roots, or they’d have had him up on a rape charge.

  139. .

    God. What a joke.

    QLD Local Council rangers abuse and ramble on at bible bashers…

    “It is an offence to approach someone…”

  140. Armadillo

    Thanks Gab. I have two left feet when it comes to the technical side. Just thought there is always someone lurking about here who knows about ‘stuff’.

  141. .

    Ah…that video…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtl6nEj84k

    “It is an offence to approach someone with Christian literature”

    *Like this?*

    “You’ve just done it again!”

  142. Dot, please keep in mind that Campbell Newman’s groovy new fascist undemocratic prejudiced bikie laws actually name the OMCG’s that are to be targetted.

    I have been issued with a list of gangs, and sternly instructed by the officer-in-charge of the police station that if any member of any of the listed gangs are found inside my pub, I will be committing an offence and will be prosecuted. [redacted discussion followed, between me and the Sarge]

    “Misfits” are not one of those gangs.

    Thus those coppers on that video are out of order.

  143. Gab

    I’m thinking Fleeced could help you in some way, Armadillo so perhaps when he pops his head in here you could ask him.

  144. Gab

    Also perhaps you should post it on the new Open Forum, Arma?

  145. JC

    I have been issued with a list of gangs, and sternly instructed by the officer-in-charge of the police station that if any member of any of the listed gangs are found inside my pub, I will be committing an offence and will be prosecuted.

    Did you tell him to fuck off or acted like the good little German?

    You realize that requirement would most likely be unconstitutional, right?

  146. srr

    Last time I checked, canines are carnivores. You should have unleashed the RSPCA on them for cruelty.

    Evidently, PeekStoopid is but a blur on the far horizon.

    did better than that; cured the peek stupid vegan’s dog, of vegan diet induced stupid, that made such a difference, they had to handle meat from then on.

    Win, twist the blooded knife, Win!

  147. Tel

    Yeah. He should have said that the leather vest was for safety reasons. My blood would boil having that drop out from kindergarten teaching lecture me as if she was some sort of social worker.

    The bikers in my area wear T-shirt and shorts, and ride racing bikes through the red lights using the principle that the less time you are spend the intersection the safer you are. It actually works surprisingly often, but then again there’s a major Aus Post depot in my area. I once saw a guy (not a biker) open his driver’s door in front of a postal delivery truck only to find said door leaping out of his hand and launching itself down the road. Takes a lot to stop a truck full of paper.

  148. .

    Damn – posted on the wrong thread…

    Christ.

    This is hilarious..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWRPrCg84Qs

    “I am a harvard law alumnus, I am a mining baron, I am driving a very expensive car and I don’t consider the $1000 in my back pocket a large amount of cash…now you are detaining me and you don’t have reasonable cause to even ask me why I used the ATM even if your colleague thinks I withdrew a ‘large’ amount of cash…”

  149. Brian of Moorabbin

    Well. I am really struggling not to insult the intelligence of cops here.

    It’s ok Dot. I promise not to take any offence. :)

  150. nic

    It is an offence to approach someone

    Whats the bet the chuggers and stinky backpackers in koala suits don’t get this treatment.

  151. Tel

    There’s this one:

    Steve at the Pub
    #1147289, posted on January 12, 2014 at 11:18 am
    The laws knocking the stuffing out of outlaw motorcycle gangs are much needed. Campbell Newman has done a great thing. Only people for whom outlaw motocycle gangs are a theory, could possibly oppose such laws.

    I could “read for comprehension” but only the words that are offered to me.

  152. Tel

    There’s this one:

    Steve at the Pub
    #1147565, posted on January 12, 2014 at 3:27 pm
    [...snip...]
    The omcg’s are an outlaw element, there is no place for them in this society.
    [...snip...]

    My emphasis, perhaps “comprehension” requires me to ignore parts of the message.

  153. .

    I have been issued with a list of gangs, and sternly instructed by the officer-in-charge of the police station that if any member of any of the listed gangs are found inside my pub, I will be committing an offence and will be prosecuted. [redacted discussion followed, between me and the Sarge]

    It would be illustrative if you quoted the Act and section in full.

    So basically you could have three dudes putting a bet on when you go and check on a shipment from Lion Nathan and you can get fined, lose your right to trade and even go to the clink?

  154. Derp

    “When you say social motorcycle club, what does that mean?”

    And there’s the nub of it. They were quite deliberately being intimidating and harassing but most of all, they were gathering evidence. In their eyes he was already guilty. He wasn’t a citizen, he was a civilian.

    That camera kept them polite and scrupulously by the book. How galling they had to let him go.

  155. nic

    That camera kept them polite and scrupulously by the book

    Interesting that the ‘dickless Tracy’ wasn’t making much headway and they bought Sarge in.

  156. So basically you could have three dudes putting a bet on when you go and check on a shipment from Lion Nathan and you can get fined, lose your right to trade and even go to the clink?

    That’s about it Dot. I’m not sure some aspects of this legislation have been thought through.
    Four or five months ago I did write something about this exact thing.

  157. “When you say social motorcycle club, what does that mean?”

    Were that me Derp, I’d have said something like:
    “On your next birthday Sergeant, your station colleagues may wish to consider giving you a dictionary for your birthday. I spoke in English, if you are unable to understand that langauge there is little I can do to help you. This is a roadside stop and I am a motorist, if you wish to recieve instruction in the English language I suggest you enquire elsewhere about adult remedial education classes.”

  158. That would be alleged killer.

    No, he has admitted to punching him. There is no doubt whatsoever that he killed him. The argument is now about intent and whether he ever had a puppy growing up.

    And if he has a touch of trad land owner blood in him, a well known mitigating factor as the DNA makes them less responsible for everything.

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