It’s not resentment, it’s disgust

With the political demise of the repulsive Chris Christie, the Republican establishment is in shock and denial. Their golden boy, the one they were grooming to take on Hillary, is now fading into the pack. First there is this about how Christie has leapt from the George Washington Bridge:

The pleasure Mitt Romney loyalists are taking in the struggles of Chris Christie.

The condition is prevalent, stemming from a range of perceived Christie slights towards Romney during the 2012 campaign, which several Romney loyalists ticked off quickly — and with still-evident bitterness.

There was the New Jersey governor’s barring Romney from raising money in the Garden State, his unwillingness to answer vice presidential vetting questions and his highly autobiographical convention keynote speech. Most of all, though, Romney allies remain resentful of Christie’s embrace of President Barack Obama as the two worked together on Superstorm Sandy relief in the waning days of the campaign, which Romney backers believe boosted Obama’s bipartisan bona fides and cost Romney valuable swing votes.

The right word is not “resentful’. The right word is disgust. The only description of what Christie did in the last week of the presidential campaign in 2012 is to say that he double-crossed Romney. He so comprehensively put his own ambitions ahead of every other consideration that he felt no compunction about doing what he could to sink Romney’s campaign so that he could run four years later himself. Anyone who thinks four more years of Obama was preferable to four years of Mitt Romney is such a brainless clown that it is unimaginable for me that I would ever support Christie for president. I am now closer to thinking along just these lines:

The “Republican Party establishment’s chosen champion for 2016 is in the cross hairs of the liberal media,” influential Iowa talk radio host Steve Deace said. “You can’t take out the Democrats until you take out the Republican establishment.”

He added, “I’ve never been happier to watch the liberal news media tear down a Republican because he’s one of their own.”

Romney was not one of their own but they had to wear him because he was so much superior to anyone else as his performance in the primaries showed. That Christie is all they can think of even now shows what an empty cupboard the Republicans now have at the national level. Which is why this story at Hot Air is less ridiculous than you might think:

In interviews with more than a dozen party officials, fundraisers, and strategists in New York and Washington over the past 10 days, Republicans described a palpable sense of anxiety gripping the GOP establishment in the wake of Christie’s meltdown, and an emerging consensus that the once promising cast of candidates they were counting on to save the GOP from the Tea Party — and the nation from Hillary Clinton — is looking less formidable by the week…

“There are definitely people jumping ship,” the operative said, noting that confidence in Christie’s electability has dropped off sharply among the donors he’s heard from…

In fact, it’s gotten so bad, the operative said, that some donors have started looking back fondly on the good old days of 2012: “You know what a lot of them say to me? I think we need Mitt back.”

Well Mitt’s not coming back, not least because his wife has said that Mitt is not coming back. And it’s anyway too late, especially if those who run the Republican Party think it needs saving from the Tea Party. The US is rapidly sinking into an impotent backwater and who’s going to save them now: Hillary Clinton with her husband calling the shots or Jeb Bush continuing another dynasty on the other side? And given how idiotic American politics now seems, what’s to say it won’t be Michelle that will give us the third Obama administration and maybe even a fourth.

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86 Responses to It’s not resentment, it’s disgust

  1. stackja

    And given how idiotic American politics now seems,

    USA has a tradition of two-party politics going back to Hamilton-Jefferson. Dems may seem to have a candidate with HRC but USA has a saying that a week is a long time in USA politics.

  2. Fisky

    Christie is too self-absorbed and vindicted to be entrusted with the Presidency. And yes, he’s embrace of Obama was probably calculated to derail Romney and create an opening for 2016. He’s as bad as Hillary, with her infamous ‘hit list’ of political enemies.

    These people are dangerous and should be kept far away from positions of power.

  3. Fisky

    vindictive – not vindicted.

  4. stackja

    Fisky
    #1156964, posted on January 18, 2014 at 7:05 pm
    He’s as bad as Hillary, with her infamous ‘hit list’ of political enemies.
    These people are dangerous and should be kept far away from positions of power.

    In real life, Vince Foster was distraught at the prospect of being grilled about the shady affairs of Hillary Clinton.

  5. A delicious article. More like this, please.

  6. Habib

    They could do worse than give Guiliani a run, he’d likely pick up some NE states. Proven track record as well.

  7. They can’t run the centre. All their strong contenders are to the side. Sucks to be a parasite on the Republican side I suppose.

  8. There are strong contenders in the centre, but the Tea Party shoots them down with extreme prejudice at the first available opportunity.

    Rubio is a perfectly fine centrist candidate, solving many of the demographic problems the GOP faces through not only his policy leanings but also his own race… but of course as soon as he started actually trying to move the party to the centre through immigration reform, the extremists on the right sunk their knives into his back.

    Ryan is another who really should be a Tea Party darling but the extremists are so insane that they think he’s a squish now too, just because he actually did his job and co-authored a spending bill.

    The Tea Party is like some modern women… their standards are so high that they are going to die sad and alone, because no one will ever be their perfect man.

  9. Bruce

    I don’t know why they are fighting a war with the Tea Party. Surely they understand if they pick a wuss like Christie or Huntsman a vast number of right wing voters will not vote. They won’t turn up.

    That was the problem with Romney – many Christians looked at their consciences and decided they couldn’t vote for a Mormon. So they didn’t vote at all, and Obama won. The Republican heirarchy should understand their own base by now, surely.

  10. Sea Wolf

    I’d love it to be Ted Cruz. Failing that, Mike Pence needs to go back to Washington.

  11. Tardell G

    Munta says – “A delicious article. More like this, please.”
    Delicious. Just like the fragrance of ball-sweat on your chin after you savoured Obama’s sausage.

  12. Fisky

    Rubio is a perfectly fine centrist candidate, solving many of the demographic problems the GOP faces through not only his policy leanings but also his own race… but of course as soon as he started actually trying to move the party to the centre through immigration reform, the extremists on the right sunk their knives into his back.

    Rubio has no authority and no gravitas at all. Worse, he doesn’t address the demographic problem at all, because he is a Cuban, and Cubans stand to gain nothing from any hypothetical amnesty. Cubans are not the same as Central Americans.

    The final point is – the Republicans’ real problem with these demographics is not even immigration, it’s health care. If they were able to explicitly state that they support universal insurance in some form (obviously not the ludicrously expensive Obamacare) and stick to it, they’d have a much better chance. Amnesty will gain them nothing, and perhaps even set them back because the new voters coming online will vote Democratic on bread and butter issues.

  13. Fisky

    Also, Republicans lost the Cuban vote last time. The Cold War is over, and younger Cubans are more interested in health insurance than the threat of Castroism.

  14. TerjeP

    I’m still crowing for Rand Paul.

  15. .

    That was the problem with Romney – many Christians looked at their consciences and decided they couldn’t vote for a Mormon.

    Well that learned ‘em.

    ‘We can’t vote for this heretical Christian, so we’ll let Obama win’

    In a democracy, you can get the Government you deserve.

  16. Bruce

    Dot, you are being callous. Have some empathy. If voting for David Leyonhjelm required you to commit a heinous crime would you do it?

    Each person on this planet does what their conscience allows them to do. If you ignore or deprecate this you are denying reality. Which is what the Republicans did in 2012. And are at risk of doing again in 2016.

    If they do it again, fuck ‘em.

  17. .

    Each person on this planet does what their conscience allows them to do.

    Yep, they let Obama win.

  18. Well that learned ‘em.

    I don’t know that it did — the people who were supposed to learn from it were the Republican ‘Establishment’. I don’t know that they learned their lesson at all.

    As to those who voted otherwise, I don’t think many regret that decision at all. They (unlike Steve above) don’t believe voting for Romney would have made more than a marginal difference.

    I’m still crowing for Rand Paul.

    You may well still get him. We’ll see. Both he and Cruz are playing good hands this far out. I suspect there is a bit of table talk going on between the two of them as well.

    The Republican heirarchy should understand their own base by now, surely.

    Unfortunately for the Republican establishment, the Tea Party bit of the base is antagonistic towards the parasites that ultimately fund the Establishment’s life of ease. They are rather stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    their standards are so high that they are going to die sad and alone

    Yeah.. somehow suggesting the books be balanced this side of next century is now too high a standard to hold.

  19. If they do it again, fuck ‘em.

    I think that is basically the attitude towards the establishment, yes. If the establishment support another candidate incapable of outlining a plan to do what needs to be done, fuck ‘em.

  20. C.L.

    There are strong contenders in the centre …

    Ah yes, lefties advocating “moderate,” sure-to-succeed Republicans. LOL.

    Previously hailed under this banner: McCain, Romney and … Christie.

  21. I still thought the GOP should have gone for Perry last time. So what if he’s not the greatest debater. That one was already lost against Obama, one of the finest orators of the era. There were other battlegrounds, though, ones on which Perry was on safer turf than Romney – primary among those Obamacare.

    But you lot couldn’t handle a leader who got embarrassed in public.

  22. C.L.

    The other funny thing about the official NYT/Dem talking point about “moderate’ candidates is that we’re currently enduring the most extremist fruitloop presidency in US history.

    But the Democrats stood on this rake – and for this rake. come to that – because they now have a mandatory checklist of extremist prerequisites and, not surprisingly, a half-black communist Muslim who wanted to bankrupt America came through with the most flying of colours.

    There is nobody in the GOP’s list of the most likely who comes anywhere near Obama and Holder for sheer out-of-this-world trans-lunar extremism.

  23. Adam D

    The republicans need to swing to the right. The MSM already paint them as being complete right-wing nutjobs already and choosing the most liberal individual in the world won’t change this view. Energise your base, there are still enough conservatives out there they just need to be motivated to vote, motivate them by offering real change.

    Plus the fall-back is ripe for the picking; the absolute debacle of Obamacare, the perilous state of the finances, bengazi, fast and furious, tapping the press etc etc. If the republican party can’t win off the back of Obamacare than they deserve to have any power anyway.

  24. Samuel J

    How about Thomas Jefferson? There are at least 100 people named Thomas Jefferson in the US and at least one must be competent and willing to stand for President. I can’t imagine we would be worse off than choosing another Jefferson.

  25. Bruce

    I still thought the GOP should have gone for Perry last time. So what if he’s not the greatest debater. That one was already lost against Obama, one of the finest orators of the era.

    I agree with mOnty on something! Perry would not have lost the cohort that Romney lost. Nor would he have lost the centrists, who are less conscience driven than the people I hitherto mentioned.

    But Obama one of the finest orators of the age? Have you ever heard Obama without his teleprompters mOnty? He’s absolutely terrible off the cuff.

    Finest reader of the finest speechwriters spinmeisters of the age…yes.

  26. Bruce

    because they now have a mandatory checklist of extremist prerequisites and, not surprisingly, a half-black communist Muslim who wanted to bankrupt America came through with the most flying of colours

    Its not a bug, its a feature…De Blasio.

  27. Chris M

    Romney wasn’t a terrific candidate, simply not very conservative and saying different things to different groups on vital issues such as abortion hence many conservatives didn’t vote for him. But on the fiscal side I think he would have been very good.

    What Obama has brought to America more than anything else is corruption. The cesspit third world and pagan countries are almost entirely rife with corruption and he has very successfully introduced large amounts of it into the USA with the aid of the anti-US media. he may not have been born in Nigeria but he has certainly brought Nigerian ways to America. And whatever anyone thinks of Romney unlike Obama I believe he loves the USA and I don’t believe he would have embraced corruption.

  28. There is nobody in the GOP’s list of the most likely who comes anywhere near Obama and Holder for sheer out-of-this-world trans-lunar extremism.

    You’re a parody of a ridiculously tribal wingnut these days, CL. You have turned self-satire into performance art.

  29. Crossie

    For all his much vaunted management skills Romney’s choice of campaign staff was dismal. Giving jobs to John McCain’s leftovers not only guaranteed similar strategy but disgusted the Tea Party Republicans. Final indignity was not inviting Sarah Palin to the Republican Convention and thus alienating her followers who made up a significant percentage of Republicans.

    Had Romney actually managed his campaign like a business he could have survived Christie’s embrace of Obama but the personnel he chose doomed him.

  30. Bruce

    He forgot to mention John Holdren, mOnty, who on the same scale is extra-galactic. Not many people on the world think the human race should be sterilized.

  31. Crossie

    The Republican Party will have to reform or be resigned to perpetual opposition. The leadership seems to be hostage to the Chamber of Commerce which is not popular with the social conservatives, the Tea Partiers or the small business owners. They may survive the 2014 midterm election but if they legalise amnesty for the 20 odd million of illegal immigrants they are done.

  32. .

    Romney couldn’t get people to vote for him because he’s not a Trinitarian, Nicene Creed (or Chaldean) Christian?

    This is completely unreasonable.

    monty’s characterisation if Obama as a great orator is a joke and meant to thumb his nose at us here, it’s also nonsense. His idea of oration is raising his voice on the soundbyte (whilst reading a teleprompter). Obama was unknown in the Senate for being an orator.

    Romney won every debate.

    Romeny was the most laissez faire candidate since Reagan (bar Palin, Rand Paul and Ron Paul). His views on tax, the budget and drilling are entirely praiseworthy.

  33. Crossie

    As far as Monty is concerned a socialist can do no wrong.

  34. Crossie

    It’s rubbish to suggest that Catholics would not vote for him because of his Mormonism when in fact more Catholics voted for him than for McCain in 2008.

    Link

  35. Romney was the pioneer of the policy that has come to define Obama’s presidency. He was hopelessly compromised.

    The structural problems of the Republican Party were worse as a factor in their loss, though, which I would remind people was as bad as the loss Labor just endured. 2014 will see the civil war within the party escalate even further.

    On currently available information, Hillary would have to keel over and die not to win the presidency from here. There is so much money funnelled to her campaign already, they might even elect her corpse.

  36. .

    monty you might about the Republicans but you are so blinkered as a leftist you refuse to appreciate how widely despised Hilary Clinton is.

    If you think Romney was compromised, you believe the Obamaphone lady is something to aspire to.

  37. Aristogeiton

    C.L.
    #1157122, posted on January 18, 2014 at 8:56 pm
    There are strong contenders in the centre …

    Ah yes, lefties advocating “moderate,” sure-to-succeed Republicans. LOL.

    Yeah, like they all swore they’d vote for Turnbull if only the evil Abbott666 were vanquished. Yeah, right.

  38. Aristogeiton

    .
    #1157275, posted on January 18, 2014 at 10:45 pm
    [...]
    you believe the Obamaphone lady is something to aspire to.

    Fatboy believes that pyjama boy is the height of masculinity and represents his highest aspiration.

    Btw, speaking of lefties gone feral, criticism of pyjama boy is anti-Semitic. I shit you not:

    http://forward.com/articles/190011/obamacare-pajama-boy-controversy-wrapped-in-anti-s/?p=all

  39. squawkbox

    Hillary won’t even win the nomination. Not only does her closet have more skeletons than Karrakatta cemetery, no one likes her and not even she can run on fear alone. Just read the US leftwing press and blogosphere. They all think she is inevitable, and there’s no outright criticism of her. However, there is a remarkable lack of actual enthusiasm. Basically, everyone thinks everyone else will vote for her but no one will actually vote for her if there is any sort of plausible alternative.

    If I was running Hillary’s campaign, I would be pre-emptively nobbling any remotely possible Obama-like up and comers, starting from yesterday. (Only in the political sense – no Vince Foster conspiracy theories here).

    BTW, horribly sexist and ageist of me, I know, but when she looked like a middle aged lesbian she at least possessed an air of authority. Now she looks and projects like a little old lady, and will do so more by 2016. I don’t see the great American public voting for the dotty old cat lady down the road.

  40. monty you might about the Republicans but you are so blinkered as a leftist you refuse to appreciate how widely despised Hilary Clinton is.

    Sure, lots of people hate her. But lots of people love her too. Significantly, the Dems primary will be a doddle, whereas the GOP primaries will go on and on, bleeding cash from all parties involved, leaving very little to fight Hillary sitting on top of her Mt Everest of cash.

    Only the GOP House gerrymander and the nobbled SCOTUS will prevent complete Democrat domination.

  41. C.L.

    I don’t see the great American public voting for the dotty old cat lady down the road.

    Then how do you explain Biden?

  42. Ant

    Ted Cruz is the guy.

    Imagine him with Allen West as VP.

  43. JC

    Squawkbox

    You realize Hillary actually won the primaries, right? She won Florida and Michigan, but the two states were thrown out of the primary count for some technical reason. The real reason was to give the primaries to the Kenyan.

    I have a hunch she won won’t run in 16, however if she does she will most likely win. Yes the money, she’s raising… That money will be used by her to help her preferred candidate setting her up as a king maker.

    I hope I’m wrong but I have a horrible feeling the next democratic candidate will make the Kenyan appear a conservative. I think the next US president will be Pocahontas Warren… Elizabeth Warren who is an outright communist.

  44. JC

    And by the way, the betting markets are suggesting Warren is the next contender after Hillary, so if she doesn’t run Warren is the next bet on the Democrat side.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/winner

  45. squawkbox

    You realize Hillary actually won the primaries, right? She won Florida and Michigan, but the two states were thrown out of the primary count for some technical reason. The real reason was to give the primaries to the Kenyan.

    Well, yes – Throwing out Florida and Michigan showed the Democrat establishment were decidedly out of love with her even then. And her negatives have only increased in the last 6 years. Any democrat running as the anti-Hillary has an excellent shot in 2016. Not Fauxcahontas though, she’s barely distinguishable.

  46. JC

    Squawk

    The D’rat establishment gave it to the Kenyan because he’s black. Hillary won the primary vote by far as she carried those two big states. IT doesn’t matter how unpopular she was with the establishment.

  47. C.L.

    She won Florida and Michigan, but the two states were thrown out of the primary count for some technical reason.

    God, I’d almost forgotten about that.

    He literally came to the nomination as an affirmative action gesture.

  48. C.L.

    Ted Cruz has great smarts, great guts and the right idea.

    But …

    IMO, he’s terrible on television.

  49. JC

    He literally came to the nomination as an affirmative action gesture.

    Yep, he’s had a easy ride all his life because of the color of his skin.

  50. JC

    There are a few decent governors on the GOP side. They will get a hearing.

    Christie may well up the primary winner though. This stuff isn’t going to harpoon him.

  51. Crossie

    If Ted Cruz gets the Republican nomination I would expect Rand Paul to be chosen as the VP to court the libertarian vote.

  52. C.L.

    Here’s Cruz on Leno…

    I know he’s anything but a marshmellow … he’s one of the smartest contenders in modern American history. But he comes across as a dweeb with a high-pitched voice. He’s also hunchy and a leg-crosser.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOV3yhNU2qQ

  53. squawkbox

    Christie may well up the primary winner though. This stuff isn’t going to harpoon him.

    Considering his appearance and blubber content, you do have a talent for picking the appropriate metaphor

  54. JC

    Considering his appearance and blubber content, you do have a talent for picking the appropriate metaphor

    Well yea, that’s why I used it.

  55. C.L.

    Great clip, JC.

    Yes, that is the question. They’d probably still cheer – whether or not they’d mean it, I dunno.

    And what about the deficit that Reagan is talking about – $90 billion!

  56. JC

    CL

    I think he misspoke when in fact he was referring to accumulated debt and possibly at the time all federal, state and local government debt. I don’t think total federal debt was that high in 1975, but I could be wrong.

  57. Ant

    I see in that Carson/Reagan clip that Dutch was a leg crosser, too.

  58. C.L.

    Yeah but it an older man’s leg-cross and his torso is manly upright.

    Cruz looked Fredo Corleone in the boat house.

  59. Fisky

    Cruz is not an attractive man, but I think it’s about time for another filibuster. Bohner is angling towards supporting amnesty, and only Cruz is able to derail the thing.

    It’s a little weird that people are advising the Republicans to support amnesty for electoral reasons. More Republicans than Democrats voted for President Johnson’s civil rights legislation, but it made no difference because the President is the standard-bearer of the party, and he (and the party) gets the credit.

    The same is true of amnesty. It would be suicidal for the Republicans in opposition to help add 10 million Democrats to the rolls thinking they will get a reasonable cut. They won’t.

  60. Fisky

    It’s a little weird that people are advising the Republicans to support amnesty for electoral reasons. More Republicans than Democrats voted for President Johnson’s civil rights legislation, but it made no difference because the President is the standard-bearer of the party, and he (and the party) gets the credit.

    I should expand further – black voters don’t give a shit that more Republican reps supported civil rights legislation than Democrats. The only thing that matters is the Democrat executive pushed the bill. Amnesty legislation will play out exactly the same way, with Republicans getting zero credit, but adding a minimum net 8 million Democratic voters. That’s suicide (incidentally, very popular at the CATO Institute, for reasons that can only be teased out through a program of vigorous psychiatric treatment).

  61. dover_beach

    Fisky, the first amnesty for illegals occurred under Reagan in 1986, so I’m not even sure the thesis that ‘the President is the standard-bearer of the party and therefore obtains whatever kudos flows from the legislative program of Congress’ can be sustained.

  62. Andrew

    So what if he’s not the greatest debater. That one was already lost against Obama, one of the finest orators of the era.

    Considering even the Kenyan mocked his own inept debate display, it’s ridiculous shit like this that is likely to get the d0nut king dismissed as another fake persona like Hammy. And then there’s Biden’s beclownment.

  63. Cold-Hands

    He so comprehensively put his own ambitions ahead of every other consideration that he felt no compunction about doing what he could to sink Romney’s campaign so that he could run four years later himself.

    Personal ambition often trumps Party Loyalty- just look at Pliberserk calling for a full investigation into the SLF accused of rape… although Christie put his future ahead of the National Interest, so is even more contemptible.

  64. Tel

    Their golden boy, the one they were grooming to take on Hillary, is now fading into the pack.

    You saw Chris Christie as set to go head to head against Hillary? That’s weird because I was expecting Hillary to select him as her running mate.

  65. Romney couldn’t get people to vote for him because he’s not a Trinitarian, Nicene Creed (or Chaldean) Christian? This is completely unreasonable.

    Agree. But if voting for a Mormon was the issue, then the Christians who can think clearly enough and are educated well enough to even know what those concepts are were almost certainly not the problem.

  66. Walter Plinge

    FORMER GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney… is stepping up for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie…amid more accusations and attacks that the Christie administration punished political opponents.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/18/romney-defends-christie-handling-bridge-controversy/

    Ghastly pic of Christie.

  67. Romney would feel sympathy for a state governor who is out of his depth on the national stage.

  68. banz

    “Romney would feel sympathy for a state governor who is out of his depth on the national stage.”

    Is this supposed to be cutting edge wit?

    Did you twitter it?

  69. Mr Rusty

    Hillary in 2016? I reckon so, another filthy closet Commie to finish off what the Magic Negro started. That woman is truly evil, I thought Gillard was pretty evil but Hillary takes the cake, she scares the crap out of me.
    You just know she was the brains behind one of the most fuckwitted policies ever, lying next to Bill in the Whitehouse boudoir, playing with his hairy chest and whispering “Bill, wouldn’t it be great if we let absolutely anyone get a home loan, then the poor will be able to own a home. They will worship you for it, you’ll be remembered as the heir to JFK. Do it Bill, go on…”
    If the Republicans have any sense they will put up another dud, maybe a Scientologist this time, let her win and wait for the collapse, the bloodshed and Civil War II. I think they know things are way past fixable.
    Funny, with another Bush, Clinton or Obama America will take over North Korea as the country with the most family succession leaders – although they aren’t back-to-back like in N Korea. Can’t think of any other democratic country with as much nepotism, ironic when you consider they were borne out of a rebellion against a hereditary monarchy.

  70. JC

    banz
    #1157838, posted on January 19, 2014 at 12:24 pm
    “Romney would feel sympathy for a state governor who is out of his depth on the national stage.”

    Is this supposed to be cutting edge wit?

    Did you twitter it?

    Fatboy has an appalling sense of humor. He’s funny but not the way he thinks, the big fat idiot.

  71. banz

    Mr Rusty it just does not matter anymore, if one side loses, it still makes money and that is all that matters.

    Very good point regarding Jeb and Hilary, why its almost like a transient monarchy :)

  72. MT Isa Miner

    Fisky

    #1157465, posted on January 19, 2014 at 2:59 am

    Cruz is not an attractive man, but I think it’s about time for another filibuster. Bohner is angling towards supporting amnesty, and only Cruz is able to derail the thing.

    It’s a little weird that people are advising the Republicans to support amnesty for electoral reasons. More Republicans than Democrats voted for President Johnson’s civil rights legislation, but it made no difference because the President is the standard-bearer of the party, and he (and the party) gets the credit.

    The same is true of amnesty. It would be suicidal for the Republicans in opposition to help add 10 million Democrats to the rolls thinking they will get a reasonable cut. They won’t.

    Fisky, this is what I can’t get my head around. It seems so obvious. If it is obvious to somebody that knows f’ all about the USA what are the Republicans doing? Can they really be that stupid? There must be something else going on.

  73. JC

    Don’t anyone laugh, but I think Donald Trump has a chance for the nomination, as someone wrote recently. Trump has the single most important ability of anyone I’ve seen who is able to use the media to his advantage- getting over their heads- and talk to the punter.

    The birth certificate was clearly bullshit to the point of being laughable as a criticism of the Kenyan. Of course he was born in the US. Trump was able to turn this ridiculous thing to his advantage and put the Kenyan on the defensive by forcing him to provide his birth certificate. Trump has some appalling policies, but it doesn’t mean he can’t get in there with a shot.

  74. C.L.

    Romney would feel sympathy for a state governor city alderman who is out of his depth on the national stage.

  75. So JC’s big idea is that because Trump is a bullshitting birther who has some appalling policies, he’s a valid contender for the GOP nomination.

    I’m not laughing at you, JC, but at the American right for your reasoning being correct. In a sane party, Trump would be chortled out. The GOP is through the looking glass.

  76. candy

    Rick Perry would have been a good choice, very successful governor Texas record number of terms. On interview I’d seen he seemed straightforward and a decent guy.

    Ms Clinton is a much more senior woman now, and looks it. Her husband has a lot of heart trouble/ill health, so it’s hard to see how she’d go as a contender. It would wear her out.

  77. JC

    Bullshitting birther?

    Or

    ” if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it”

    Pick the worst must degrading bullshit, Fatboy and then come back to me.

  78. Yep JC, calling the President of the Unitede States of America a fraudulent Kenyan is still by far a greater example of degrading bullshit. Birtherism is just this side of anti-vaxxerism as unconscionable rubbish.

  79. banz

    Monty you need to learn less is more.

  80. One less letter e and that last post would have been better.

  81. james

    I think it is time for the US to die.

    In its modern, post war form it has brought us the racism industry, feminism and almost every culturally corrosive aspect of modernity from academia to television.

    If you take away its noble foundation and view it only as a post ww2 entity the US in its current form is not worth saving.

  82. Menai Pete

    This is the best commentary on the Chrietie bridge saga. Bruce Springsteen, with Jimmy Fallon, taking the piss out of himself sending up Christie with a satirical version of Born to Run.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHV0LLvhXM

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