While we are on the ABC

Check out this guff from the 2013 Annual Report – circular, illogical and meaningless.  Who writes this stuff?  I guess that would be the special unit created to write the Annual Report and other PR material.

(Incidentally, the Annual Report pretty sums up everything that is wrong with the ABC – excessively lengthy, expensively produced in a show-off way and self-congratulatory to a tee.  In other words, completely uninformative, vacuous claptrap.)

For citizens


A defining characteristic of public broadcasting is that
it must treat its audiences as citizens and not merely
as consumers. To act in this way—both in the content
of programming and the manner of interaction with
audiences—is an essential component of an ethos of
public service that the ABC, by force of its statutory
Charter, is obliged to adopt. Public service goes well
beyond satisfying consumer demand.
A person’s interest as a “consumer” is only one
part of the person’s status as a citizen. Consumers
have desires or needs. Citizens have rights and
duties. Whilst satisfying community demand for
program content, or at least for mainstream content,
may be common to both commercial and public
broadcasters, there are process and accountability
considerations which commercial broadcasters either
do not have or do not share in the same degree.
Providing content that seeks to attract large
audiences and ratings is not irrelevant to the functions
of a public broadcaster, but our obligations extend to
serving additional public values such as accessibility,
openness, fairness, inclusion, impartiality,
accountability, legitimacy, participation and honesty.
The Corporation continues to serve this broad
range of values by innovating and evolving, by being
audience focused and audience responsive and by
keeping pace with our audience’s changing demands
about how they want to experience ABC content.

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93 Responses to While we are on the ABC

  1. Rabz

    our obligations extend to serving additional public values such as accessibility, openness, fairness, inclusion, impartiality, accountability, legitimacy, participation and honesty

    They are utterly failing to meet these obligations.

    Shut. It. Down.

    Fire. Them. All.

    Now.

  2. Leigh Lowe

    Who writes this stuff?

    A retired ABC club member brought back as a consultant would be my guess.
    Lots of work-shopping to get the words juuuust right.

  3. Gab

    there are process and accountability
    considerations which commercial broadcasters either
    do not have or do not share in the same degree.
    Providing content that seeks to attract large
    audiences and ratings is not irrelevant to the functions
    of a public broadcaster, but our obligations extend to
    serving additional public values such as accessibility,
    openness, fairness, inclusion, impartiality,
    accountability, legitimacy, participation and honesty
    .

    Who are they referring to here, which broadcaster because it certainly does not relate to the ABC in any way. shape or form.

  4. Rudiau

    ABC of the ALP, funded by the people, for the ALP, shall perish from the Earth.
    Apologies Abe.

  5. Dan

    Reads like a legitimisation to attack private broadcasters.

  6. The Pugilist

    OK, let me get this straight. We are citizens, not consumers. However:

    Providing content that seeks to attract large
    audiences and ratings is not irrelevant to the functions
    of a public broadcaster, but our obligations extend to
    serving additional public values such as accessibility,
    openness, fairness, inclusion, impartiality,
    accountability, legitimacy, participation and honesty.
    The Corporation continues to serve this broad
    range of values by innovating and evolving, by being
    audience focused and audience responsive and by
    keeping pace with our audience’s changing demands
    about how they want to experience ABC content.

    Essentially, to serve us as citizens they must not just be concerned with audience numbers/ratings but they must treat us as consumers? They must be audience focused and audience responsive and by keeping pace with our audience’s changing demands but not give a stuff if there actually is an audience? Perhaps they mean that it is easier to satisfy an audience if it is small and homogeneous? I really don’t get the logic here at all…

  7. Anthony

    By definition, a citizen is one who owes allegiance to one’s government. Citizens pay taxes to their government for the services they receive. A consumer is one who uses a substance or service. Therefore, no ABC consumers can be citizens. Stop paying taxes for this rubbish.

  8. Jazza

    hahaha!
    …”Fairness, inclusion, impartiality, accountability…” HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
    pretty good at humour, though unintentional!

  9. Aristogeiton

    The Pugilist
    #1165061, posted on January 24, 2014 at 10:43 am

    +1

    Came to post this. How is responding to audience demand not treating the audience as consumers?

    The rest of it is ‘Aunty knows best’.

  10. H B Bear

    The ALPBC is the quintessential staff captured organisation.

    There is no point looking to its Charter, the Act, Annual Report or Policy documents to understand the causes of its failure, they are walking around Ultimo, Southbank and every other building across the face of Australia. They marry each other, secure cadetships for their children, hire their spouses as independent fact checkers and commission series after series of unwatched programming from their former employee’s independent production companies (Denton being the prime example).

    Senior management are incapable of managing the organisation in any sense of the word as understood in private industry. Mark Scott and his subordinates are reduced to apologists for the actions of the staff collective. The Board doubly so. Howard went down this road and naturally failed miserably.

    The ALPBC survives largely on a nostalgic recollection of the 1950s and 60s when Alan McGillivray called the Test cricket and someone with rounded vowels read the news every hour. Nowadays it is full of JJJ graduates such as Fran “I’m an activist” Kelly and her well documented fellow travelers bringing their overt political bias to the very fabric of the organisation. By its very composition the ALPBC is incapable of fulfilling its Charter.

    As always, it is time to sell it off or close it down.

  11. I couldn’t even finish the first sentence. What utter bollocks.

  12. Grigory M

    Who writes this stuff?

    Maybe the same people who help on-air presenters with place-names pronunciations and locations. During the bushfires late last year Joe O’Brien kept saying Minmee instead of Minmi (a very well know mining area and outer suburb of Newcastle). More recently Vanessa O’Hanlon (the Weather Girl) said Glen Innees instead of Glen Innes, and today found the view very nice (looking west to the Harbour Bridge and Opera House) from some place she called Port Macquarie Point (which looked suspiciously like an actual place called Mrs Macquarie’s Chair).

  13. Jannie

    They have morphed from being an irritant in our own camp to being The Enemy of Everything We Hold Precious. They hate us for being what we are, they are implacable in their mission to control us. Its Fight or Flight, and we can’t run from them. The only option we have is to destroy them.

  14. Evcricket

    The sentences are too long at the very least.

  15. Watching It Unfold

    “Jesus” – apology for the profanity…..

  16. hzhousewife

    This is an example of clear analytical thought, as it is taught today.

  17. Indigo

    The LNP should as a matter of urgency open a judicial inquiry into the awarding of the tender to the ABC of the overseas broadcasting rights. Conroy should be placed on the stand under oath. If nothing else, it’s a shot across the bows, and if it is true the result was rigged, we at least take the overseas image of Australia out of the green-left-progressive hands. The appalling reporting of the “burns and beatings” claims is ample excuse if one is needed.

  18. Here are some solutions:
    1.Divide the ABC up at least into separate organisations for each state(probably 2 for Queensland plus a Riverina organisation).
    2.Relocate the offices in each state to somewhere else than the capital.
    3.Split off the non broadcasting elements.
    4.Broadcasting not be able to commission other than news programs but buy them on the open market.
    The ABC is very much Sydney centric-for examplethere are codes where activity takes place and property is kept.The code is M for Melbourne etc but for Sydney it is H for home.

  19. Gab

    Defund the ABC. In this technological age there is no need for a taxpayer-funded media conglomerate.

  20. Chistery

    ..but our obligations extend to serving additional public values such as accessibility, openness, fairness, inclusion, impartiality, accountability, legitimacy, participation and honesty.

    Sounds great. When does that start?

  21. C.L.

    Folks, keep fantasising.

    The ABC will never be abolished or broken up.

    For that you need a Liberal Party with both courage and polemical, case-making smarts.

    We have nothing like that in this country.

  22. Lysander

    Folks, keep fantasising. The ABC will never be abolished or broken up.

    You cut me real deep CL.

  23. Infidel Tiger

    Folks, keep fantasising. The ABC will never be abolished or broken up.

    I’ll bet they get a budget increase.

  24. Squirrel

    “……blah blah blah, impartiality, blah blah blah” – stop, it, or you’ll go blind!

    This tendentiously windy document, like so many of its public sector confrere, is a reminder of the substantial taxpayer resources which are wasted each year as departments, commissions, authorities, agencies, corporations etc. etc. go through the motions of accountability, and, as here, attempt some admirably gymnastic contortions to justify their existence.

  25. cuckoo

    This would be the same ABC whose morning radio bulletins, for three days in a row now have run the bogus ‘sailors held my hand to a red-hot pipe’ story as their lead item even though there are no new developments in that ‘story’. Has anyone at the ABC tried asking these people just how the sailors supposedly forced them? Did they point a gun at them, or take their hand and force it onto the pipe? Or did they just use the Jedi Mind Trick?

  26. Token

    Check out this guff from the 2013 Annual Report – circular, illogical and meaningless. Who writes this stuff? I guess that would be the special unit created to write the Annual Report and other PR material.

    Across the years I’ve found mission statements state very clearly what the organisation most definitely is not.

  27. Token

    The ABC will never be abolished or broken up.

    For that you need a Liberal Party with both courage and polemical, case-making smarts.

    We have nothing like that in this country.

    The ABC staff have seen there is no sanction ever for their behaviour.

    Don’t underestimate the way hubris brings the mighty down.

  28. Pete of Perth

    Nuke-em till they glow then shoot-em in the dark.

    That should fix the problem.

  29. .

    For that you need a Liberal Party with both courage and polemical, case-making smarts.

    We have nothing like that in this country.

    I disagree. Senator David Lleyonhjelm is the member of such a party…

  30. JohnA

    (Incidentally, the Annual Report pretty sums up everything that is wrong with the ABC – excessively lengthy, expensively produced in a show-off way and self-congratulatory to a tee. In other words, completely uninformative, vacuous claptrap.)

    And this is different to private corporate annual reports how?

  31. JohnA

    Rabz:

    Shut. It. Down.

    Fire. Them. All.

    Now.

    No, I would prefer a staff buyout, along with the ABC Super Fund, the Friends of the ABC and any ALP Greens luvvies who want to “control the media”.

    Then I wouldn’t care what they showed – it wouldn’t be “our money, Ralph!”

  32. C.L.

    Something else too, cuckoo: notice how the ABC has totally buried the fact that these animals admitted to sabotaging their own boat with a woman and toddler aboard.

    And is there anyone who doesn’t realise that the woman and the toddler were brought along precisely to be used as human shields?

    The ABC supports violence against women and children.

  33. Grigory M

    1. Announce that the ABC is to be privatized.

    2. Do the due diligence, including identifying what roles (if any) should be retained as a public service in the privatized entity.

    3. Sell it as soon as possible, thus saving $1.2Bn per annum and receiving proceeds of sale up-front ($5-10Bn?).

  34. Evcricket

    You do realise that most Australians actually want the ABC and have demonstrated this by voting for parties who have not promised to abolish it? Sure a few fringe right-wingers want it gone, but the vast bulk of the country loves the ABC and any party which defunded it would never be elected again.

  35. Lysander

    Evcricket; ahhhh you must be one of those 99% right?

  36. Pedro

    “You do realise that most Australians actually want the ABC and have demonstrated this by voting for parties who have not promised to abolish it? Sure a few fringe right-wingers want it gone, but the vast bulk of the country loves the ABC and any party which defunded it would never be elected again.”

    No mainstream party has ever promised to abolish it so yes, everybody seems to be voting in favour of the ABC. OTOH, do you believe that everyone who votes for a party is in favour of all of the party’s policies? Not a very clear thinker are you.

  37. .

    Evcricket #1165194, posted on January 24, 2014 at 12:57 pm
    You do realise that most Australians actually want the ABC and have demonstrated this by voting for parties who have not promised to abolish it? Sure a few fringe right-wingers want it gone, but the vast bulk of the country loves the ABC and any party which defunded it would never be elected again.

    Bullshit.

    Let’s have a referendum then.

  38. Aristogeiton

    Evcricket
    #1165194, posted on January 24, 2014 at 12:57 pm
    You do realise that most Australians actually want the ABC and have demonstrated this by voting for parties who have not promised to abolish it? Sure a few fringe right-wingers want it gone, but the vast bulk of the country loves the ABC and any party which defunded it would never be elected again.

    One example of where opposition to the ABC was determinative of the result in a federal election. Go…

  39. .

    Not a very clear thinker are you.

    He’s “a thinker” though.

    Just like the pretentious fops on macrobusiness “The Prince” and “Senexx”, I bet he “reads” as well.

  40. Token

    …but the vast bulk of the country loves the ABC and any party which defunded it would never be elected again.

    Fear is not the same as love.

  41. Notafan

    Most Australians take no notice of the ABC, its ratings give testimony to this. Run a campaign on it see see how that pans out.

  42. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    I’m not going to read that rubbish – my time in business (straddling the period before and that after the fabulous new management world) demonstrated that the longer the “mission statement” the further it got from the fact, and the longer grew the the nose of the author.

    “The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons” said Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    I recall how we (the executive) confused the fresh faced inaugural mission statement writer with suggestions along the lines of “Our mission is to make a profit and to be very good at all the things necessary to secure that.” She simply could not understand or construct brevity.

    From Token at 12:11 pm:

    “The ABC staff have seen there is no sanction ever for their behaviour.

    Don’t underestimate the way hubris brings the mighty down.”

    I dunno token – they’ve tweaked the tail of the tiger plenty in the past six or seven years and they still get fed.

    For what the bastards have done just this week Black Jack McEwen would have had them in, directors and top managers alike, for a 5 minute barrage before burying them and appointing Doug Anthony as wrecking ball – and he was in the chair for only about two and a half days!

  43. .

    “Our mission is to make a profit and to be very good at all the things necessary to secure that.”

    Too honest, don’t you want to get a woman-child poster girl for affirmative action, like Gail Kelly, another gong she doesn’t deserve?

  44. No, I would prefer a staff buyout, along with the ABC Super Fund, the Friends of the ABC and any ALP Greens luvvies who want to “control the media”.

    Then I wouldn’t care what they showed – it wouldn’t be “our money, Ralph!”

    Amen to that. Evcricket can join them and start paying personally for the wonderful ABC that the rest of us can’t stand.

  45. Having said that, I heard a bit of Tim Wilson with David Marr on Classic FM yesterday at lunchtime.

    Marr was desperate for Wilson to say that the Church had been persecuting him as a gay man. Wilson neatly deflected this and pointed out that there were plenty of private individuals who wanted to use the power of the State to impose their personal morality on others.

    I laughed out loud, but by then I was home had to take the shopping inside, so I switched off the car and the interview.

  46. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Evcricket at 12:57 pm:

    “You do realise that most Australians actually want the ABC … the vast bulk of the country loves the ABC and any party which defunded it would never be elected again.”

    Bork, bork, bork (sniffle) – bwahahaha.

    The ABC has never made it bright lights onto anyone’s election policy platform, Logan, Mt Druitt and Broadmeadow have never seen or heard of it and couldn’t tell you three weeks after the hanging who was responsible.

    Did they give you this internet address together with the talking points? I’ll give you a hand – Google Tim Blair and Andrew Bolt, off you go now.

  47. incoherent rambler

    How about applying a little rule of law.?
    The ABC have clearly breached sections of the official secrets act, they are clearly acting as a provocative agent against the national interest, they have caused massive losses for the beef export industry, the AGW rants amount to deliberately deceptive behaviour …
    Start charging the individuals involved and start recovering losses (live exports) from the individuals involved.
    Section 18C might even be used. Has the ABC targeted and “offended” a minority group ? (RAN employees)

  48. Andreas

    There are more than 5 million households in Australia. So strip the ABC of $500 million in funding and put in place an optional $100 public broadcasting service fee. If Australians ‘love’ the ABC and want its services so badly then they can fund it directly themselves. And if they choose not to, well that’s the ABC’s problem.

  49. incoherent rambler

    Nuke-em till they glow then shoot-em in the dark.

    I will second that.

  50. Leo G

    So, the ABC defines its essential role as providing a public service that includes consumer demand, but goes beyond to include satisfying consumers’ desires, needs, rights and duties.
    When did Auntie become Nanny?

  51. Leigh Lowe

    Maybe the same people who help on-air presenters with place-names pronunciations and locations. During the bushfires late last year Joe O’Brien kept saying Minmee instead of Minmi (a very well know mining area and outer suburb of Newcastle). More recently Vanessa O’Hanlon (the Weather Girl) said Glen Innees instead of Glen Innes, and today found the view very nice (looking west to the Harbour Bridge and Opera House) from some place she called Port Macquarie Point (which looked suspiciously like an actual place called Mrs Macquarie’s Chair).

    The inner pedant is aroused!
    There is a famous foot race in Victoria called the Stawell Gift. I would expect an experienced sports reporter to know that the place is pronounced “Stall” …. not “Stay-well”.
    I also heard another report recently on Japanese whaling where the Japanese PM Shinzo Abe was pronounced “Aib” (as in Abe Lincoln) rather than the correct “Ah-Bay”.
    There is also there penchant for the long “a” …. “Car-sal” for Castle rather than “Cassal” to the point where on of hem referred to the Victorian country town of Casterton as “Car-sterton” rather than “Cass-terton”

  52. dover_beach

    Can anyone imagine that if the ABC was as friendly to the Right as it is to the Left that the ALP/ Greens would do nothing to reign in or abolish the ABC? No, you cannot.

  53. Maybe the same people who help on-air presenters with place-names pronunciations and locations.

    They have no end of fun with WA place names. I’ve heard ‘Man-DU-rah’ for ‘MAN-du-rah’, etc etc etc.

  54. Jannie

    The ABC will never be abolished or broken up.

    Nothing lasts forever. The ABC has slowly changed for the worse over many years. It speaks only to its faithful, but it is sowing the seeds of its own destruction by making so many enemies. They are blind to this, and their arrogance renders them unable to reform in order to survive. When the taxpayers eventually go for the ABC, it wont be for the latest outrage, it will be because of what it has done for the last 50 years. It can and will be destroyed.

  55. JC

    Folks, keep fantasising.

    The ABC will never be abolished or broken up.

    For that you need a Liberal Party with both courage and polemical, case-making smarts.

    We have nothing like that in this country.

    You do actually, but I’m not running for office. I’d sack them all the hour i was appointed and do so with glee.

    In any event they ought to learn from their own actions. They sacked Flannery and will undo the Climate Authoritarians. No one gives a shit.

  56. JC

    Notafan
    #1165215, posted on January 24, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    Most Australians take no notice of the ABC, its ratings give testimony to this. Run a campaign on it see see how that pans out.

    Never run a campaign on stuff like this as you end up finding yourself in hell. You just do shit like this and explain later.

  57. Evcricket

    You accuse the left of operating in an echo chamber and yet suffer the same pitfall. Sure, the commenters here don’t like the ABC, but you forget how many Australians do. Yep, no party has ever taken a defunding of the ABC to the electorate, why do you suppose that is? Parties usually take policies they think will be popular to elections, yet the obvious vote winner of closing the ABC has never been tested?

    And yes I would love to see a referendum on this. Though I suspect the main outcome would be the right complaining that the process wasn’t fair.

    And no, I don’t actually care about the ABC. Having a kids channel is useful, but youtube is better.

  58. Evcricket, I think the bone of contention is that it’s funded directly by taxpayers.

    If its funding could come from commercial sources, or from a voluntary opt-in subsidy – the same principle as the ‘tv licence’ in the UK, but voluntary rather than compulsory – then I think we’d all be a lot happier.

  59. Token

    Sorry Phillipa, but based upon his work on the “Alternative Energy” thread yesterday Ev is not here for a dialog.

    He does not have the ticker to have a dialog. He’s the type of empty vessel who has to keep moving due to his shallowness.

  60. JC

    Sludge pack

    The despicable lying slapper ran on a no carbon tax pledge and mmediately went back on it.

    The libs wouldn’t have to ask. They could just do it. They aren’t breaking a pledge.

  61. Jazza

    Andreas, Love your proposition–but please make it pro rata as I wouldn’t pay $1000 a year for the few imported dramas I like that the ABC currently runs(and reruns)
    As for the rest, I wouldn’t watch if THEY paid ME $100 a year to do so!

  62. Jazza

    Whoops–wouldn’t pay $100 a year, either!(stiff fingers and fast typing= a silly error)

  63. james

    Shut. It. Down.

    Fire. Them. All.

    Damn right.

    Screw everything else, screw talking points, screw everything.

    screw them all.

    Just sack them all..

  64. Lawrie

    I used to propose totally defunding the ABC but a partial defunding would definitely work and only upset the freeloaders of the left. If the government “allowed” the ABC to advertise or seek sponsorship for certain programmes and then reduced taxpayer funding by 50% no one could really complain and it would give Mark something to do; deciding where and who to cut and who to keep. The conflict would be pure gold yet only affect a small number of ALP voters. The good folk who watch free to air or Foxtel couldn’t give a tinkers cuss over whether we have an ABC or not. They pay for a service they want and are forced to pay for a service they don’t watch.

  65. JohnA

    Philippa Martyr #1165268, posted on January 24, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    They have no end of fun with WA place names. I’ve heard ‘Man-DU-rah’ for ‘MAN-du-rah’, etc etc etc.

    Whereas my brother taught me it’s supposed to be ‘MAN-drah’ :-)

  66. Rabz

    I would love to see a referendum on this. Though I suspect the main outcome would be the right complaining that the process wasn’t fair.

    You mean similar to the left’s incessant whinging about the result of the Republic Referendum, eh, cricket?

  67. Des Deskperson

    “And this is different to private corporate annual reports how?”

    Well, you see, the ABC is taxpayer funded so, like all other taxpayer funded corporations, its annual report is a crucial accountability document that is supposed to clearly set out to Parliament and the public just how this money has been spent – efficiently, effectively, ethically and sustainably – in the latest financial year. That’s the fundamental contract that underlies compulsory taxation in a democracy. There should be no room in an annual report for crap.

    There is no such requirement for commercial corporations. On the other hand , If I were a shareholder in a company that reported in such obscurantist (and rather dated) manageobabble, I’d want to ask a few questions at the AGM. I can only hope that a Parliamentary Committee get stuck into the ABC for this crap.
    BTW, from the particularly senile language in the extract above – it reads like Centrelink mission statement c.1998 – I’d say the report is the work of a consultant, probably a mate or mate-ess from way back!

  68. You accuse the left of operating in an echo chamber

    We’re not forced to pay for The Cat’…

    I bet the annual report doesn’t say anything about paying some Indonesians to torture poor cows while they film.

  69. And what Gab and James said.

    Can’t wait till the first sitting after July 1 to hear the Good News.

  70. Johno

    They have no end of fun with WA place names.

    Toodyay takes the cake for WA place names to really confound Eastern Staters.

  71. Des Deskperson

    They have no end of fun with WA place names

    Or indeed with the name of any place more than 10km away from Ultimo. When ‘Killing Heidi’ won the ‘Unearthed’ award for the Goulburn Valley back in the nineties, the geniuses from JJJ though they were from Goulburn NSW!

  72. Notafan

    Never run a campaign on stuff like this as you end up finding yourself in hell. You just do shit like this and explain later

    You are right, I much prefer that option.
    My main point is that most Australians don’t watch or listen to the ABC, eva.
    They need a new director and a funding cut that really, really smarts.
    Or even a decent Senate Estimates committee that slices and dices them on their cosy tendering arrangements and nepotism.

  73. .

    Des Deskperson #1165435, posted on January 24, 2014 at 4:56 pm
    They have no end of fun with WA place names

    Or indeed with the name of any place more than 10km away from Ultimo. When ‘Killing Heidi’ won the ‘Unearthed’ award for the Goulburn Valley back in the nineties, the geniuses from JJJ though they were from Goulburn NSW!

    The black hair dye was a give away they were closer to the Melburnian sphere of influence.

  74. manalive

    I used to propose totally defunding the ABC but a partial defunding would definitely work and only upset the freeloaders of the left …

    The government has to ‘do something’ but whatever is done, like Carthage, has to be irreversible.

  75. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From manalive at 6:02 pm:

    ” … but a partial defunding would definitely work and only upset the freeloaders of the left …

    The government has to ‘do something’ but whatever is done, like Carthage, has to be irreversible.”

    Certainly not and certainly, leave only dust behind. We’ve gone forty or more years beyond the time when there was a reason for existence and communications has long since surpassed Their ABC’s wit to compete.

    Why would you leave behind a crack in the wall for them to crawl back through? Why?

  76. cohenite

    ev says:

    And no, I don’t actually care about the ABC. Having a kids channel is useful, but youtube is better.

    So, you would be voting against its continuance in a referendum? After all the abc which you don’t care for costs well in excess of a $billion and has an indirect cost through its support of left wing ideology like illegal boat -people and the AGW scam of many more $billions, money which be better spent elsewhere. Surely by your own logic you MUST oppose the abc.

  77. cohenite

    Andreas says:

    There are more than 5 million households in Australia. So strip the ABC of $500 million in funding and put in place an optional $100 public broadcasting service fee. If Australians ‘love’ the ABC and want its services so badly then they can fund it directly themselves. And if they choose not to, well that’s the ABC’s problem.

    Excellent idea; it would simultaneously test the ‘popular’ support for the abc and force those who run it to make choices about which ideological position they would sacrifice.

  78. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Toodyay takes the cake

    When Bob Menzies was Prime Minister, he was alleged to have asked, when flying to the West, where the aircraft currently was.

    “Over Mukinbudin.” was the reply.

    “I refuse to believe that any part of the Commonwealth is named Mukinbudin” was Menzies’ statement..

  79. Grigory M

    Just sell it. Sure, the luvvies (like Jiminy Cricket) will scream loudly about it, but they are in fact a minority. There is plenty of upside for the government to publicise – $1.2Bn per annum saved plus a sale price of $5-10Bn. Get the public involved – run a campaign asking them to suggest what that money can be applied to.

  80. Pete of Perth

    Koolyanoobbing is another great place name.

  81. Pete of Perth

    Whoops: Koolyanobbing

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Koolyanobbing

    Kunnunoppin, Korrelocking, Cowcowing, Bullabulling, Warralackin, Warrachuppin, Watheroo, – I could go on, but my spellchecker is about to have a seizure.

  83. stackja

    cohenite
    #1165518, posted on January 24, 2014 at 6:51 pm
    Andreas says:
    There are more than 5 million households in Australia. So strip the ABC of $500 million in funding and put in place an optional $100 public broadcasting service fee. If Australians ‘love’ the ABC and want its services so badly then they can fund it directly themselves. And if they choose not to, well that’s the ABC’s problem.
    Excellent idea; it would simultaneously test the ‘popular’ support for the abc and force those who run it to make choices about which ideological position they would sacrifice.

    Sealed sets worked in the past.

  84. In other words, completely uninformative, vacuous claptrap.

    Can’t get a gig Judith?

  85. Aristogeiton

    1735099
    #1165652, posted on January 24, 2014 at 8:55 pm
    In other words, completely uninformative, vacuous claptrap.

    Can’t get a gig Judith?

    Fuck right off.

  86. JohnA

    Johno #1165432, posted on January 24, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    They have no end of fun with WA place names.

    Toodyay takes the cake for WA place names to really confound Eastern Staters.

    In a previous business we had a customer based there.

    Touché for Too-jay!

  87. Johno

    Kunnunoppin, Korrelocking, Cowcowing, Bullabulling, Warralackin, Warrachuppin, Watheroo

    Given all of these bulging megapolis you have listed, do you reckon their combined population would crack 1000?

  88. andy

    the abc before the lefties got power was losing half a billion dollars a year. after 6 years of being revamped as a leftie power base,it loses one and a quarter billion dollars a year,and will lose even more every year it is allowed to. any revamp that results in a business that intends losing 12 billion dollars plus a decade must be examined. the country could use that 12 billion in the next decade for actual useful things,and the lefties would still have their leftie media,just not tax funded.

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    do you reckon their combined population would crack 1000?

    Johno – no way known, but you do have to admit that the names have a fine ring to them……

  90. Crossie

    Just sell it. Sure, the luvvies (like Jiminy Cricket) will scream loudly about it, but they are in fact a minority. There is plenty of upside for the government to publicise – $1.2Bn per annum saved plus a sale price of $5-10Bn. Get the public involved – run a campaign asking them to suggest what that money can be applied to.

    There is no way you would get $5-10 billion for it. Two billion tops as the buyers would be aware that once the current broadcast arrangements expire the whole operation would be worthless. It could not compete with commercial organisations on a level playing field.

  91. nerblnob

    I sometimes think you guys are a bit rabid and exaggerating about the ABC. We hear the same about CNN and the BBC.

    Then I visit Australia, where many places – waiting rooms, office lobbies etc – have ABC News on as default, and I’m flabbergasted. The partisanship is shocking, and so blatant that it speaks of hubris.

    There’s no way I’m reading that mission statement – the sheer density of verbiage gives an unmistakeable whiff of overpaid bullshit.

  92. LABCR-TV

    Sell the ABC eh?
    Who in their right mind would buy such infected effluent?

    Shutting it down would save over $1 billion every year, and that could go to paying off labor’s debt left to the people of Australia. Deliciously ironic.

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