Climate News

The IPA’s Climate News was issued last night.  It is a bi-monthly on-line publication covering significant policy and scientific developments in the area.  The latest issue draws from work of the great Richard Lindzen.

Coincidentally, the irrepressible James Dellingpole had this excellent piece on Richard Lindzen in yesterday’s London Daily Telegraph. Lindzen appeared with others before the House of Commons.  He batted away the comments of Tim Yeo, who while chairing the climate policy committee in the House of Commons also earned $400,000 from firms pressing climate change policy regulations.

Under pressure from the alarmists, Lindzen said “I think the majority of people working in climate science will go with the view that climate science is serious. I don’t think that would be surprising to anyone. There are very few people in any scientific field who say ‘My field is not serious’. Other than that there is so much penalty for saying that this is not an important problem that I don’t think people would go out on that limb, either.

“I’ve asked very frequently at universities: ‘Of the brightest people you know, how many people were studying climate [...or meteorology or oceanography...]?’ And the answer is usually ‘No one.’  You look at the credentials of some of these people [on the IPCC] and you realise that the world doesn’t have that many experts, that many ‘leading climate scientists’”.

Adding, in response to his inferring that scientists in the field of climate were academically inferior, “Oh yeah. “I don’t think there’s any question that the brightest minds went into physics, math, chemistry…”

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34 Responses to Climate News

  1. Rabz

    climate scientist

    An utterly absurd contradiction in terms.

  2. Louis Hissink

    Climate parameters are essentially statistics calculated from weather so it is:

    Average Weather Scientist

    Hmmmm.

  3. Rabz

    Average Weather Scientist Catastrophist

    Fixed.

  4. Jannie

    John, that sort of article actually makes the warmists all deliriously happy. It makes their day to read about Polar Bears dying of heat exhaustion. The things they claim to hate actually make them happy. Just witness the undisguised glee the ABC approaches any catastrophe they could blame on the evil conservatives.

  5. Fred Furkenburger

    Climate Scientists? Weren’t they a bunch of Australian rappers? Came out with a big hit? a few years ago?

  6. Empire Strikes Back

    Climate Scientists? Weren’t they a bunch of Australian rappers? Came out with a big hit? a few years ago?

    That’s right Furk. Lead rapper DJ Moocher went on to form a new outfit called Deficit Spending. I’m not a fan. Too many Shane Wand samples for my liking.

  7. .

    Yes, MC Cue Ball has his own hit, ‘Control” and MC Tax “Payer” Loss has his own, called “All I do is whine”.

    (The level of hostility towards rap here will see this be interpreted as gibberish by the curmudgeons).

  8. Alan Moran

    Fred Frankenburger
    They did have a catchy video. And it will come as little surp[rise that it was financed by your their ABC!

  9. manalive

    Watch the video in the link, be amazed at Tim Yeo’s behaviour towards sceptical invitees, British political and ruling class stupidity in full flight.
    It’s almost as if he had skin in the renewables game … oh.

  10. Rabz

    Too many Shane Wand samples for my liking

    “The four years of surpluses that I announce tonight …”

    Scratch and repeat

    Scratch and repeat

  11. squawkbox

    I’m surprised I haven’t seen Richard Lindzen’s points raised before. Look at the ‘scientists’ driving the climate scam – the Manns, Jones, Briffas, Trenberths etc. No one could possibly class them among the brightest and best. They are in general third rate hackademics at second rate universities – Pennsylvania rather than Princeton, East Anglia rather then Cambridge. They are middle-aged with few academic distinctions to their credit but with black belts in academic politics. Much better at producing convincing grant applications, stacking peer review bodies and chairing committees (and making sure they reach the correct conclusions) than in advancing human knowledge.

    I have long thought that for a movement apparently believed in by 97% of scientists, Global Warming has been distinctly unlucky in its public advocates. Surely there must be hundreds if not thousands of bright young telegenic megagenius Ph.D.s at Oxbridge, The Ivy League, Stanford, MIT etc who would do a much better job of convincing us than the tired old hacks above, let alone the Gores and the Flannerys.

  12. johanna

    They’re third raters all right. Look at Turney, the genius behind the stranding of his Antarctic expedition. If he hadn’t got the gig as head “climate scientist” at the unit at UNSW, he would still be snuffling around in mammology, like Tim Flannery would have.

    How UNSW decided that someone who knows nothing about maths, physics, chemistry, statistics, oceanography, etc, etc – is the perfect person to head up the “climate change” unit is a matter for speculation.

  13. Walter Plinge

    How UNSW decided that someone who knows nothing about maths, physics, chemistry, statistics, oceanography, etc, etc – is the perfect person to head up the “climate change” unit is a matter for speculation.

    Successful track record in grant writing and fulfilment plus friends in the right places, I imagine. Those are common reasons to appoint academics these days.

  14. srr

    By Viv Forbes at Pickering Post -

    Thatcher was a scientist and later realised that man-made climate alarm had no real basis and was just a front for promotion of world government. Writing in 2003 she totally rejected the whole warmist argument.

    So the doomsters cannot take comfort from the fact that Margaret Thatcher was a warmist, because, in one of her few about-turns, she also became and remained, one of the early sceptics.

  15. srr

    The whole thing here -

    Margaret Thatcher The Warmist? - The Pickering Post

    http://t.co/2Mb6WKfZpF

  16. Louis Hissink

    Do I get the impression, from watching the UK committee deliberations, that the members on the left (with the large Scottish one) were Labour, and those on the right, conservatives?

    This global warming meme seems to be, using appropriate terminology, directed by political forcings.

  17. Louis Hissink

    Lindzen’s best comment was that if the scientist solved the problem, funding dries up.

  18. johanna

    Louis, it’s a close call between that and his comment that “climate scientists” are not the cream of the crop.

    Lindzen is a hero.

  19. Louis Hissink

    Johanna, I worked that out when I was at uni, and then they were labelled geographers.

  20. JC

    Average Weather Scientist Catastrophist

    Fixed.

    The correct term is climate bothers or if they’re using short term weather patterns, then weather botherers.

  21. James of the Glen

    Johanna, “How UNSW decided that someone who knows nothing about maths, physics, chemistry, statistics, oceanography, etc, etc – is the perfect person to head up the “climate change” unit is a matter for speculation”.

    Was/is Turney a geographer? Geography used to be part of Arts faculties. Is this fellow pretending to be a scientist? There was nothing about his “expedition” which elevated it above a ‘let’s play being scientists’ jaunt. The inclusion of a video production team rather gave the game away, and more so with the peanut milk-shake sop/video boy making a pathetic spectacle of himself. Plus Mum and the kids.

    Taking temperature and salinity measurements might be a big deal for a Year 8 pond excursion, but in this context it could only impress the likes of the just over 50′s science illiterates and songstresses.

  22. Louis Hissink

    JC, as distinct from wether botherers….

  23. johanna

    James of the glen, like Flannery, he is a mammologist.

    A worthy pursuit, but has zero relevance to the big picture of climate science.

  24. egg_

    “Oh yeah. “I don’t think there’s any question that the brightest minds went into physics, math, chemistry…” Engineering

    “Follow the money” ;)

  25. egg_

    Climes/climate… Geography.

  26. gabrianga

    You mean Rudd lied when he said there were 2000 scientists in white coats at the IPCC?

    How many Australian Universities provide a degree in Climate Change and when did they commence?

  27. Rabz

    The correct term is climate botherers or if they’re using short term weather patterns, then weather botherers.

    JC, quite frankly I think the correct term is “Dick Head”, but then I’m only a purveyor of the Dismal Science.

  28. Andrew

    You mean Rudd lied when he said there were 2000 scientists in white coats at the IPCC?

    LOL why the fuck would they have needed white coats when all they do is computer modelling and filling in grant applications? History books will be written about the fuckwittedness of the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd ineptocracy.

  29. Richard

    You mean Rudd lied when he said there were 2000 scientists in white coats at the IPCC?

    He couldn’t even get the name of the organization right. He called it the “International Panel on Climate Change”.

  30. Jim Rose

    alan, he actually underplays the quality problem.

    what bright young thing good at maths and science would major in a field where the science is settled. new and different discoveries win PhD scholarships and tenure.

    the problem is even worse for budding young economists. there is no interest in journals for replication of results. journal editors want novelty.

    you do not win tenure at the top universities by proving the conventional wisdom

  31. Winston Smith

    Whilst recuperating, I stayed with the elder sister and husband.
    They watch the ABC news at night. Every night.
    I put up with this torture for sciences sake – to count the amount of times “Global Warming” was repeated.
    Didn’t hear it once.
    gerbil wormening is ded.
    d.e.d.
    ded.

  32. blogstrop

    You have to admit that Shane Wand’s statement was a biggie:

    “The four years of surpluses that I announce tonight …”

    However, his union mates are trying to equal it with efforts along the lines of “just a few rotten apples …”

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