The ABC is in trouble

Both News and Fairfax newspapers are pointing to problems at the ABC.

Tony Walker in the AFR:

If there has been a consistent theme in multiple conversations in recent months with Coalition figures, from senior ministers down, it is that the ABC promotes a worldview inimical to conservative viewpoints on issues like climate change and asylum-seeker policy.

It would be hard to exaggerate the depths of displeasure among Liberal National Party representatives with the national broadcaster, fair or not. The conservative critique, including objections to a weighting against conservative voices on opinion programs like Insiders and Q&A, would seem to have some validity.

On the other hand, criticism that the ABC and Fairfax are part of a giant left-wing conspiracy is nonsense. Neither organisation has a monolithic worldview, this newspaper being one example.

THE CASE FOR PUBLIC FUNDING
But the ABC does have a case to answer when it comes to the use of $1.2 billion a year in public funding. It will have an opportunity to do so when the government institutes an “efficiency study” later this month.

Nick Cater in the Australian:

THE art of good reporting is to let the facts speak for themselves. First, however, the facts must be discovered. It is the ABC’s inability to accomplish this most basic task that is compromising the integrity of its news service.

Dennis Shanahan in the Australian:

There is a recognition within the government that previous attempts to change the culture of the ABC have failed. But there is also a recognition and frustration that through a lack of normal and proper editorial and management processes, the ABC seemed determined to ignore the reality of a change of government and has not taken real steps to ensure its guidelines on impartiality and accuracy were enforced.

Inaccurate and unaccountable for $1.2 billion of taxpayer funds.

As it turns out tomorrow morning Roger Franklin and I will be talking to Jonathan Green about these very issues on Radio National at about 9.30.

Jonathan Green is the subject of an article in the Australian too.

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125 Responses to The ABC is in trouble

  1. JC

    The conservative critique, including objections to a weighting against conservative voices on opinion programs like Insiders and Q&A, would seem to have some validity.

    You can even see what happened from a management perspective too, or at least failed management. Reliable leftwinger, Tony Jones has been allowed to get away with anything on that pathetic show because he brought in audience numbers- a leftwing audience. Because of his so-called star qualities Scott allowed him so much rope it could have coiled around the world ignoring the most basic conditions of the charter obligations.

    Honest question…

    Has there ever, ever been a pro-commerce segment on 5 Corners? Ever? And by that I don’t mean some nonsense about a little guy being swallowed by bigger fish?

    On the other hand, criticism that the ABC and Fairfax are part of a giant left-wing conspiracy is nonsense. Neither organisation has a monolithic worldview, this newspaper being one example.

    Of course Fairfax has a leftwing view, Tony. It’s even laughable to argue that. AFR may not be as leftwing only because Stutch took over and only slightly righted the far left leaning ship a smidgeon. But we don’t care as Fairfax is privately owned and can do or say what it pleases. If it wants to hire mad Betty or the howling Clemmy Ford, more power to them.

  2. MACK1

    They give the game away at the Counterpoint web site:
    “Counterpoint tackles key social, economic and cultural issues in Australian life, challenging assumptions and giving voice to new and seldom-heard commentators.”
    Translation: anyone who doesn’t have a greens/left view is seldom-heard on the ABC, but even if they make up more than half the population, and most wealth-creators, we’ll give them just an hour a week to chat amongst themselves. This is what’s known as balance.
    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/counterpoint/
    Imagine the reaction if the we gave Counterpoint to the socialist/greens and let normal people run all the other programs.

  3. JC

    Jonathan Green is the subject of an article in the Australian too.

    Wow. Next time Gerard does another dismembering he ought to make sure there’s a butcher’s bin handy for the entrails. Green’s gizzard’s were left all over the floor. This is one of the biggest carving’s we’ve seen.

    Sinc, you should ask Green what he thinks of Gerard’s piece.

  4. blogstrop

    It’s Australia that’s in trouble, and the left-leaning media has too much influence. In most elections we see a small percentage swing leading to a change of government, and the media weighting is a 2% (at least) lead weight in the conservative’s saddle bags.

    For this travesty to be even partly down to the so-called national broadcaster (and I think the commercial TV news and current affairs has some problems too – it’s not just Fairfax that’s a fellow traveller) is a complete disgrace. But the facts have been piling up for years – the ABC is due for correction, and the good may have to go out with the bad.

  5. part of a giant left-wing conspiracy is nonsense.

    It’s not complete nonsense (though it be a strawman argument) because, though the staff are not completely followers of the correct groupthink and not all the staff are “progressive”, the general trend relentlessly and perpetually opposes conservatives, libertarians and all others who aren’t “progressives”—and it functions as a conspiracy.
    If a throng of thugs attack me out of nowhere, knock me to the ground, and sink their boots into me, it matters little whether their collective action came from a deliberate, collaborative plan or from mere happenstance; their onslaught functions as a concerted, plotted assault.

  6. Sinclair Davidson

    Sinc, you should ask Green what he thinks of Gerard’s piece.

    I suspect his views would be similar to mine – a complete waste of time and not worthy of the space it took up in The Australian.

  7. blogstrop

    Because the subject was Green, right?

  8. egg_

    blogstrop
    #1174388, posted on February 1, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    Rather than reflecting society, our progressive betters see themselves as taking the lead.
    OK, let’s see how they show us how it’s done with half the budget, rather than squandering over a Billion large?

  9. JC

    Strop

    When I had that argument Andrew Robb at the Liberals election party celebrations about the ABC, the first thing he said to me was that all he heard while on the campaign trail were heavy duty criticism of their ABC. No shit Sherlock, or in his case, Andrew.

    The grass roots of the Right are seriously agitated over this and it’s going to eventually come to a head. Being all leftists and therefore stupid, the asshats at their ABC played everything for keeps. They have been totally stupid in that if they had thrown the right a few bones the explosion could have been kept under raps for a while longer.

    Here’s who they need to fire immediately
    Mark Scott
    Tony Jones and his miserable wife.
    Ol’leatherface Barrie Cassidy and his silly wife.
    Kerry O’Brien
    Jonathon Green
    Jon Faine
    Fran Tractor Kelly
    Virginia Trioli and her wife currently doing the so-called fact checking
    The little rat that does Late line when Tony Springer Jones isn’t up for it.
    Brissenden.
    the head of the news room

    And at least 238 other leftists.

  10. Sinclair Davidson

    No – not quite.

  11. Free Advice

    I propose they split it in two and create ABC red and ABC blue.
    Then they let the current mob albeit reduced stay in ABC red and the new lot under say Henderson start up blue.
    Give them 2 TV channels each and 2 radio stations.
    Half a billion dollars each.
    Then let them do what they like, even compete. Ads optional.
    Problem solved!

  12. manalive

    Shanahan’s criticisms are pretty weak, focusing on recent “tactical mistakes”.
    In fact his article, whether intended or not, praises the ABC with faint damn.
    As Keith Windschuttle writes in Quadrant, the rot started at least back in the 60s.
    There isn’t a tax-funded media organisation in the Anglosphere that is not dominated by the Left, that’s the nature of the beast.
    Trying to correct the imbalance is futile, whatever this government tries will be reversed sooner or later.

  13. calli

    JC, you missed Combet’s new ‘missus’. Paris in the Spring and all…

  14. JC

    Or take the Fox News option of always having both sides to the story.

    In case leftists laugh at the proposition, Fox News is now the most trusted news outlet in America as per the most the recent poll. NBC is at 3% trust. Lol

  15. incoherent rambler

    The only way to deal with ABC is to shift their offices out of Melbourne and Sydney. Move them to Orbost and Dubbo.
    The people who cannot live without their city latte would quit. The rest would get a different perspective when they left the office.

  16. Dave Owen

    While I agree totally that the ABC should be trimmed down and the bias corrected, I will be surprised if Abbott and Turnbull will do anything. I would have hoped they would have done much more by now. With Abbott’s so-called measured approach, I doubt if the Libs actually achieve much this term. I could be wrong, but I think they will be a big disappointment.

  17. Habib

    I doubt this pack of wets have the bottle to take on this monolith, why erstwhile conservatives are scared of it has me buggered. Its meagre audience are green/labor left voters,, who pay little or no tax. Flogging it off while it’s still worth something would be welcomed by all reasonable people.

  18. Infidel tiger

    The only way to deal with ABC is to shift their offices out of Melbourne and Sydney. Move them to Orbost and Dubbo.
    The people who cannot live without their city latte would quit. The rest would get a different perspective when they left the office.

    Those that defend the ABC always claim what a valuable service it is for regional Australia. In that case make it a 100% regional station. HQ to be at the Giles weather station.

  19. hzhousewife

    Dave,
    Abbot and Turnbull may do nothing.
    However, Morrison IS doing something, and people are noticing.
    Let’s just see how this progressess……

  20. srr

    Correct, manalive, and Shanahan’s other piece does even more direct spitting blame at Tony Abbott.

    Likewise correct, Deadman.
    Simply continuing to give aid and comfort to the enemy, with a fistful of plausible excuses for stalling correction, not lopping the rot right off, and even believing that evil conspirators, ‘aren’t all bad’, is what evil conspirators train up useful idiots to do.

  21. Andrew

    I don’t believe the GreenBC deserves to be in the “Take Nanny Down” thread. The Nanny State fundamentally believes that greater regulation is ultimately for our own protection and good. (They would presumably have extrapolated from falling death rates after introduction of seat belts, RBT and air bags – concluding that ADRs reduce road mortality and morbidity to conclude that they should regulate EVERYTHING and we would be healthier and happier.)

    The GreenBC has never advocated anything that could ever have made me better off, either in reality or at least based on any discernible good motive.
    - Opening borders to welfare-seekers and potentially those of evil motives,
    - cheerleading the pseudo-Keynesian “stimulus” [sic] years after economic ruin was self-evident,
    - opposing even the most modest cutscutscuts to deal with some $60bn of record PSBR,
    - the World’s Biggest Carbon Tax (unilaterally), which has had a zero or positive effect on global emissions (after allowing for relocation of activity such as smelting to outside AUS),
    - covering up union-associated frauds and enabling the worst Suharto-style kleptocracy that has ever been inflicted on this country
    - announcing war on Indonesia before the election, then helping Russian spies after it
    - running propaganda against our military, and attempting to sabotage Defence ops
    - running 24/7 election ads for known Marxist-Leninists like Rhiannon & Co.

    I could go on. This is not nannyism (a misguided attempt to help us) – it is 100% consistent treason, attempting at EVERY decision to harm the country. It is a grotesque insult to nannies everywhere to link them to the GreenBC. To personally benefit from a single thing the GreenBC ever editorialises, I would first need to convert to homosexuality.

  22. H B Bear

    Jonathan Green is the subject of an article in the Australian too.

    Moose Knuckles warrants his own Senate Hearings.

  23. jupes

    I suspect his views would be similar to mine – a complete waste of time and not worthy of the space it took up in The Australian.

    You’re still pissed off with Gerard aren’t you Sinc.

    Get over it.

    Green is a tool and you shouldn’t be looking for points of agreement with him. Treat him according to the Fisk doctrine.

  24. A H

    The question is, is there a genuine demand for the service the ABC provides?

    If there is, then consumers will voluntarily contend with advertising or pay a subscription fee to continue consuming the ABC service.

    If there is not a demand, then why should the Government steal money from people in the form of tax to maintain the unwanted service?

    It is the same argument against all government enterprise. If people want it, let them pay. If people don’t want it, let it die.

  25. H B Bear

    Sinc – try and slip in a couple of moose references and see if Green hits the dump button.

  26. Louis Hissink

    ABC has a valuable service for regional Australia?????????

    Really?????

    I just decommissioned the FM tuner because it’s too hard to get a decent signal – I have a super dooper FM antenna, a mast amplifier and the tuner is on weak signal mode, and the quality if rodent excreta. I’ve never listened to Radio National, never listen to ABC local, but do listen to ABC Classic FM but turn the sound down during news and midday interviews.

    And I haven’t the bandwidth with the 4G cell broadband service to attempt internet radio etc. I shouldn’t whinge too much as I am lucky not to have to pedal the treadly to get the a radio working. Monthly allocation is 25 Gb, coasts me $200 per month (and I’m a pensioner now), and I do accept that this lack of communication services must be due to bad karma for sins committed in a previous life, but the ABC are kidding themselves if they believe they are providing a service. Not if you don’t want to hear most of the stuff they broadcast.

    I’ve got a Telstra tower 7km away, no direct line of sight, a couple of ABC transmitters, all located in dead ground to my location, and the ABC reckons it has what ????

    No TV, SFA FM Radio, AM is the pits, and Internet is good for reading the news. I get the Australian on the iPad, Also Quadrant Magazine, and have to limit Bolt and Price to podcasts after the event, as well as Bolt’s Sunday program.

    Sometimes I feel as if I have been rightly and royally ruralised.

  27. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thirty or forty years ago the journos at the ABC were the same lefty political persuasion as now. But the ABC Charter was sacrosanct and journalistic professionalism required the ABC to take a rigorous balanced line. Reporting but no opinion. It was almost a joke that when on side got X minutes the other side also had to have X minutes.

    All that has gone out the window. All professionalism has gone, and it cannot be put back together as the culture of balance has been completely lost. The Charter is completely ignored and nothing anyone can do will make the employees behave appropriately.

    It must be either dismantled or privatised.

    Fairfax can have whatever editorial line and bias it likes, they are privately funded. The ABC is not.

    It should be privatised. Or it should be abolished, one or the other.

  28. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    I see Ole Leathery Scrotum Face’s All Praise Karl Marx Hour is back on tomorrow.

    lemme guess the topic – Abbottabbottabbott666?

  29. Viva

    Rather than reflecting society, our progressive betters see themselves as taking the lead.

    Nailed it.

  30. Tom

    OK, I give up, Doomlord. Why don’t you like Hendo’s piece? For a start, because he spends so much time talking to them and recording what they say and write, Hendo is a first-rate and rare outside source of information about the Australian left. And people may be either fascinated or horrified by a) what an arrogant tool Green is; b) the stunning lack of self-awareness — a recurring theme in zombieland:

    As his book reveals, Green is an eco-catastrophist who proclaims the cliche that Australia is becoming a quarry surrounded by water. He favours opening Australia’s borders to “as many people who might reasonably fit in” including those who arrive unlawfully courtesy of people-smugglers. Green accuses those who disagree with him on this issue as exhibiting “shallow xenophobia”. He also regards the majority of his fellow citizens as misogynistic.

    Green seriously divides Australians between an “informed public” (that is, people like him) and “a great mass of people” who are “wilfully misinformed” (that is, people not at all like him). Green wants “gatekeepers” like himself to shape “informed decision making” in a green/left kind of way.

    When he was at The Age, Green was an unremarkable “color writer” who created an opportunity to be a sniggering, smartarse Page Two columnist — a poor man’s version of Lawrence Money — by sucking his way up the chain of command in “mahogany row” — the editor’s inner circle of mates.

    Bearing in mind he’s married to the Fitzroy arts mafia through his wife Sally Heath — best mate of Sophie Cunningham, who maintains the cashflow to the leftard mates at the Australia Council’s Literature Board — it was his fruitcake politics that opened the door at Crikey and the ABC.

    Led by the ABC, the media-arts scene is one big slush fund for the left. Green’s only interest in the current ABC controversy is in trying to stop Abbott turning off the tap on the gushing millions that flowed under Labor.

  31. Sinclair Davidson

    I’ve known Jonathan Green for several years and while I don’t agree with his politics, or he with mine, I’ve always found him to be professional in his work. Hendo wants to sack Green simply because he is a lefty.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    I thought Hendo’s piece on Green was very good and hit the mark except for a couple of unnecessary tangential paragraphs about Green living in the inner suburbs.

  33. Talleyrand

    Good luck with the Greenman. … an. écrasez l’infâme!

  34. thefrollickingmole

    Heres an idea for savings..

    Top pay scale at the ABC is $50,000 a year, use it as a nursery for talent instead of having 30 year old “Youf” presenters on JJJ.

    Sure quality would be patchy, sometimes a presenter might miss a cue or stumble over a word, but cut the salary and all of a sudden we’ll see how many of the Comrades jump ship.

    Or plan B, which involves pyramids of skulls, salted earth, wailing and gnashing of teeth etc…

  35. Habib

    Green should be sacked because he’s an egotistical, ideologically blinkered, pompous half-wit. And he’s got a head like a smashed crab.

  36. squawkbox

    Put me down for plan B, frollicking. Ratings would be much higher.

  37. Louis Hissink

    One possible explanation for the ABC’s present dilemma of bias:

    Marcuse proceeds from this observation not to advocate for institutional or economic structures that might make the practical and material means of communication or expression more readily available to more varied or dissenting points of view but to attack liberal conceptions of tolerance altogether.

    These background limitations of tolerance are normally prior to the explicit and judicial limitations as defined by the courts, custom, governments, etc. (for example, “clear and present danger”, threat to national security, heresy). Within the framework of such a social structure, tolerance can be safely practiced and proclaimed. It is of two kinds: (i) the passive toleration of entrenched and established attitudes and ideas even if their damaging effect on man and nature is evident, and (2) the active, official tolerance granted to the Right as well as to the Left, to movements of aggression as well as to movements of peace, to the party of hate as well as to that of humanity. I call this non-partisan tolerance “abstract” or “pure” inasmuch as it refrains from taking sides – but in doing so it actually protects the already established machinery of discrimination.

    This statement reflects the by now quite familiar leftist claim that non-leftist opinions are being offered from a position of privilege or hegemony and are therefore by definition unworthy of being heard. Marcuse argues that tolerance has a higher purpose:

    The telos [goal] of tolerance is truth. It is clear from the historical record that the authentic spokesmen of tolerance had more and other truth in mind than that of propositional logic and academic theory. John Stuart Mill speaks of the truth which is persecuted in history and which does not triumph over persecution by virtue of its “inherent power”, which in fact has no inherent power “against the dungeon and the stake”. And he enumerates the “truths” which were cruelly and successfully liquidated in the dungeons and at the stake: that of Arnold of Brescia, of Fra Dolcino, of Savonarola, of the Albigensians, Waldensians, Lollards, and Hussites. Tolerance is first and foremost for the sake of the heretics – the historical road toward humanitas appears as heresy: target of persecution by the powers that be. Heresy by itself, however, is no token of truth.

    This statement on its face might be beyond reproach were it not for its implicit suggestion that only leftists and those favored by leftists can ever rightly be considered among the ranks of the unjustly “persecuted” or among those who have truth to tell. Marcuse goes on to offer his own version of “tolerance” in opposition to conventional, empirical, value neutral notions of tolerance of the kind associated with the liberal tradition.

    Source

  38. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Mole, I vote for Plan B.

    Nice place at Southbank where the skull pyramid can be erected, too!

  39. Andrew

    Enjoy him while he lasts, Sinclair – when Bishop666 bones the Australia Network budget in May, they won’t be able to afford anyone currently performing a role better remunerated than “tea lady.” All the highly paid luvvies will be gone except possibly they might keep Onesiders and Queers&Alarmists.

  40. jupes

    I’ve known Jonathan Green for several years and while I don’t agree with his politics, or he with mine, I’ve always found him to be professional in his work.

    Define ‘professional in his work’. I would think that professionalism entails rebutting arguments with a different point of view. Green sneers and uses the standard lefty tactic of attacking the person so they don’t have to deal with the argument. It doesn’t matter what Bolta / Monkton / Bernardi say because they are idiots.

    Classic recent example was when he read the papers with Trioli and her male underling the other morning. Bolta is a clown so anything he says is laughable. No need to rebut his argument.

    Professional my arse.

  41. manalive

    The bias is a given.
    What’s needed is some system of user pays.

  42. srr

    And when you don’t know either man, their wives, friends or family, and you find one writes to free us from the grasp of Leftist thinking, and the other writes apologetics for Leftist behaviour and propaganda…

    Hands up those who don’t know either man but find Green to be the propagandist for Leftism.

  43. squawkbox

    Well, Sinclair, you may have found him professional, and I’m sure that in his personal life he is as honest and amiable as anyone else, but for us peons outside the Sydney-Melbourne-Canberra axis his ability to rebut an argument he disagrees with without ad hominems or to apply the same standards to his friends and his opponents is as close to zero as makes no odds.

    Professional my arse.

    +1000, Jupes

  44. Viva

    Onesiders and Queers&Alarmists.

    Very good clever clogs.

  45. entropy

    Why not theatrically ask if the ABC and SBS had never existed, would we consider spending well over a billion a year, plus start up, to create them today? What would be the justification?

    And for more fun, would Fairfax be doing better financially if the ABC did not exist?

  46. Sinclair Davidson

    As an editor he has promoted diversity of views, both at Crikey and at the Drum. He is the only ABC presenter who’ll have me on his show. Let alone both Roger and me.

  47. Tom

    thefrollickingmole
    #1174465, posted on February 1, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    Heres an idea for savings..

    Top pay scale at the ABC is $50,000 a year, use it as a nursery for talent instead of having 30 year old “Youf” presenters on JJJ.

    Voila! Instant justification and 100% approval from taxpayers. And could be budgeted nearer its commercially sustainable revenue target of under $500 million in readiness for breakup (if necessary) and IPO. The fans get to fund it and officially own it. Taxpayers happy. Fans happy. ABC haters happy. Crowd-funding (to give the ASX a hip new title) in action.

  48. Tintarella di Luna

    Sinc – try and slip in a couple of moose references and see if Green hits the dump button.

    Look it could be slipped in if the topic even glances however tangentially on the performance of the Hyphenated Heifer — Sinc you could say the look on her face when the Sea Patrol gaffe began to bite was that of a stunned moose.

  49. entropy

    Also, is there any reason why the ABC should have twice the budget of say, Channel 10?

  50. Judith Sloan

    I actually think that you have it all wrong. With the strong group think and the self-congratulatory culture permeating the ABC, the criticisms of and attacks on the ABC, particularly from Abbott, will only strengthen their arm and convince them that they are right. You know the type of comment – if the government is criticising us, we must be doing something right.

    There will be no concessions because that would be seen as a sign of weakness. In any case, Mark Scott doesn’t have meaningful management control over news and current affairs and so is powerless to do anything, even if he wanted to (which he does not).

    As to Turnbull declaring that he has full confidence in Scott, this was a completely inappropriate response. He should have simply said that the board appoints the CEO and it is up to the board as to whether or not the CEO continues in his role.

    Finally, it makes me laugh that Leigh Sales genuinely believes that the ABC is the most accountable media organisation in Australia. As the taxpayer money rolls in like the tide, obviously the fragile princess doesn’t take any criticism well in respect of her interviewing style or content, even though nothing comes of any criticism.

  51. Tom

    As an editor he has promoted diversity of views, both at Crikey and at the Drum.

    You mean the 10-to-one formula (10 of our to one of theirs)? That’s not OK when it’s being funded by taxpayers.

    Because you are the Doomlord, I’m being very restrained.

  52. H B Bear

    As an editor he has promoted diversity of views, both at Crikey and at the Drum.

    Doesn’t get much more diverse than Alene Composta.

  53. Sinclair Davidson

    Tom – they could have 100 to 1 and Berg and I would still take them.

  54. H B Bear

    Howard’s approach shows that there is no scope to change this most egregious of staff-captured organisations through either the Board or management.

    Unless the Coalition are going to use a nuclear option against the ALPBC, they may as well trim its funding as far as possible and get on with it.

  55. harrys on the boat

    Professional? FMD, and thankfully someone brought up Composta to highlight how grossly unprofessional he is. However, Ill take Tom’s approach and say no more.

  56. Tom

    With the strong group think and the self-congratulatory culture permeating the ABC, the criticisms of and attacks on the ABC, particularly from Abbott, will only strengthen their arm and convince them that they are right.

    In the progressive tradition all will be explained quietly and calmly at the March 17 St Patrick’s Day riot in Canberra.

  57. sabrina

    Are they inaccurate and unaccountable for all of the $1.2 billion of taxpayer funds?

  58. john constantine

    the nationals in the old days supported the abc from the grassroots. the abc slit the throat of this support base,by sending the burnt out lefties and the uni student fanatics to abuse the ‘rednecks’ abc regional radio is now seething anti-tory hate speech. how the abc could deliberatley set fire to their lifeline is staggering,but they did it for the short term chance to gloat. notable is the abc campaigning to create support for a ‘tony windsor’ class of anti abbotts to come out of the bush–even describing the anti sophie mirrabella candidate as ‘rural conservative’. the abc well played its part in defeating mirrabella,and is working as hard as it can to back like minded rural candidates.[and mirrabella for the new head of the abc would be poetic justice].

  59. Leo G

    “Why not theatrically ask if the ABC and SBS had never existed… And for more fun, would Fairfax be doing better financially if the ABC did not exist?”

    The ABC, SBS, Fairfax and News would be better generally if the faux collectivist culture pervading the media did not exist.
    It’s particularly egregious in “our” ABC, with its publicly-funded culture warriors, its absurd claims to inclusivity, and it’s claim of a mandate to act to protect and extend the rights of its “clients”. Little wonder it appears to act as if it were some kind of unelected independent Government.

  60. Alfonso

    Our Tone has already told Their ABC that they are home free, that he’s terrified of them and the entire MSM, …..and he will change nothing let alone their production level culture.

    When you concede early for no reason, Tone, it’s no wonder they keep doing it with bells on.

    Hear the comrade laughter at your self induced paralysis?….at you not with you.

  61. gnasher

    Slightly OT, Although the Cat is a great site & some really great posts from very intelligent people but one thing is mostly missed.
    The Libs will do nothing but tinker around the edges, there will be a lot of talk & a lot of heaadlines but nothing will really be done. Look to the UK & the BBC, people there have been saying the same for years, lots of talk but sweet FA has been done. Even the fk wit who is running the show over there,Cameron has admitted that multiculturism hasn’t worked, his solution…bring more arseholes in.If you really think the Libs here are any different you must have rocks in your heads. I left the UK a long time ago to get away from the PC shit, I am watching the same train wreck a second time…it breaks my heart.

  62. Alfonso

    Correct and unavoidable, we lost.
    Lib and Lab encourage official immigration by Western hating culturally failed 3rd world primitives as if it’s compulsory.
    I can flee, your kids will wear it.

  63. Jack

    Go easy on Sarah. She is in a dark place right now. I remember well the trauma I experienced when I found out Kylie Minogue wasn’t Charlene from Ramsey Street making it on the world stage.

  64. Tardell G

    “As an editor he has promoted diversity of views, both at Crikey and at the Drum. He is the only ABC presenter who’ll have me on his show. Let alone both Roger and me.”
    You’re either on drugs or you’re a textbook case of Stockholm Syndrome.

  65. Sinclair Davidson

    Drugs. Definitely the drugs.

  66. David Brewer


    Top pay scale at the ABC is $50,000 a year, use it as a nursery for talent

    Could be onto something. Make it $150K though. Enough to encourage the dinosaurs to take a package, freeing up multiple spots. But a high enough figure to be politically bullet-proof. Even the lefty audience will hardly snivel – they are greedy, jealous, and think $150K is a fortune.

  67. Louis Hissink

    gnasher,

    You do raise an important point – reality is that surely as night follows day, so will the Coalition return to Opposition and the ALP back into government; so for the Coalition it’s quite depressing, really, to realise that what they achieve now will be undone the next time the socialists regain political power.

    So it’s a bit a like a slow motion train wreck, and all the Coalition can do is to slow it down a bit to lessen the damage when everything turns into doo foo economically.

    Like it or not, we are on a slow slide into serfdom in thrall of the ‘State’.

    (supping some cheap as chips Chardonnay, listening to Wagner’s Das Rheingold, and writing these political profanities).

  68. john of dandenong

    The LNP government have done a few things to intensely annoy their supporters, e.g., -
    1. Not immediately accepting the offered resignation of the GG (in fact she should have resigned not offer too);
    2. War Memorial – allowed (“Never-voted-Liberal-in-my Life” – 1991) Nelson to remain as CEO, allowing keating, the most vilest mouthed PM ever and possibly close to the most vilest mouthed politician ever, to give the 20th anniversary address with all its bog Irish hated towards anything British, and, worst of all, engraving keating’s word in bronze. The entire AWM Council should have been sacked for their appalling judgement in allowing military-hating keating near the AWM);
    3. Idiot McFarlane’s appointment of an unsuccessful Labor politician and union stooge Combet to act for the Government in the SPC affair;
    4. The appointment of Stott-Desporja to some wanky role;
    5. Not taking an immediate bite out of the ABC/SBS mob to show who was boss and then think about a really good efficiency hunt; and
    6. Not sacking at least 50% of left-leaning departmental heads and 50% of the left-leaning deputy heads from the other departments, also just to show that there was a new game in town.

    Mr Abbot was seen to be too slow in getting out of the blocks. Compare this with the way Kennett hit the ground running with an agenda. Within 3 months of being elected, a Labor-bloated to bursting public service slashed by 50%, 32 departments reduced to 16 and then to 11, the thuggish out-of-control taxi industry cleaned up, and a stack of infrastructure projects commenced.

  69. james

    Sinclair what the hell?

    Since you seem intent on standing up for such a slimeball it leads me to conclude that you and Mr Green either have family in common or a previous romantic relationship.

    The man is nothing but a snobbish sneering self satisfactory scumbag.

    Please tell me you’re joking.

  70. hammy

    Jonathan Green is the subject of an article in the Australian too.

    By Gerald Henderson. He would say all that. wouldn’t he? He’s so busy forgiving the Catholics their paedophilia, it’s a wonder he notices anything else.

  71. Gab

    He’s so busy forgiving the Catholics their paedophilia

    All Catholics are paed0philes according to you, Hammy, what even the leftist ones?

  72. gnasher

    Louis, you only have to look at how the comrades brag about how many new rules they pass through whilst in power, the libs should be stripping it out, they will not though. They will carry on as though all is ok,
    I think it is the Texas State Government (not sure) that only meets every so often to slow down the introduction of (frivolous) new laws.
    People here in Australia have absolutely no idea at what is coming down the road, they can talk here all they want, I have lived it & it is not nice. This country is the best place I have ever lived in my life & I have put everything I have into it, but now I see again the same thing happening as I saw in the UK.
    Just watching the last government was as scary as any horror movie, there was no way they could be as destructive as they were without it being malicious, it was an agenda & the libs are not much different.
    They may slow the spending, try to repay some debt, but the goal is the same, who in the world pays over a $1 billion to a media company to rip us all apart? The ABC should have been charged with sedition & funds withdrawn, instead we pay for another story that insults our military.
    I agree that Morrison is doing a good job, but it is not the only thing that needs fixing, it is important but as far as I am concerned it is a look over there type thing. The libs are labor lite & this country will be the UK with nice weather in a few years.

  73. Tom

    Gab, having indirectly experienced the crushing of dissent by the Soviet jackboot through your family’s history, you cannot hope to understand the primitive encephalon of Stalin’s useful idiots, who have been re-animated by communism’s 2010-2013 coup in Canberra. In a healthy Australia, Hammy would simply be put to sleep to free up prison resources.

  74. whyisitso

    I remember that before the 2007 Federal election, Harry Clarke ran a quite conservative blog. Shortly after that he swerved sharply to the Green/left. I am seeing Sinclair going the same way. How long before he will change the description of Catallaxy from “Australia’s leading libertarian and centre-right blog” to something like like “Australia’s leading left-liberal blog”. I am seeing him deteriorate just like Jason did after he left the employ of Henry Ergas.

  75. Danzig_misfit

    I frequent Whirlpool and have Lefty mates and they can’t see the issue besides blind right wing ideology. I guess when you are happy with what you are viewing you don’t notice the bias. Most likely they can’t believe how well they are being represented by the ABC. These people are doing well, household income of 200K+. Living comfortably, quite happy to dictate to others it seems.

  76. Ivan Denisovich

    On the other hand, criticism that the ABC and Fairfax are part of a giant left-wing conspiracy is nonsense.

    Yeah, unimaginable:

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/22/journolisters-conspired-destroy-sarah-palin-day-mccain-picked-her

  77. Boambee John

    “He’s so busy forgiving the Catholics their paedophilia,”

    Hammy, you really must try harder to avoid stereotyping, it’ll get you into trouble with the PC police.

  78. Sinclair Davidson

    Yes – I’m becoming a commie. :)

  79. Aaron

    Does Jonathan Green have the same protections here as those bestowed upon Andrew Leigh?

  80. Empire Strikes Back

    Compare this with the way Kennett hit the ground running with an agenda. Within 3 months of being elected, a Labor-bloated to bursting public service slashed by 50%, 32 departments reduced to 16 and then to 11, the thuggish out-of-control taxi industry cleaned up, and a stack of infrastructure projects commenced.

    Thems woz glory days. Especially after 10 years of Son of Cain and Mother Russia.

  81. GC

    I’m just glad I sold my FJX shares a long time ago. How their managment do not understand that they have alienated so many of their readers and listeners by their left wing dominance in print and on the airwaves is beyond me. Ironically, those of the centre and right were their traditional clientele in days gone by.
    As an example, Radio Station 2UE has only one show that out rates their competitors, that being the George & Paul Show hosted by two conservatives. Now that they’ve given Jason Morrison and Paul Murray the flick, they have no balance whatsoever, and I doubt a 60 something left wing lesbian (is there any other type) pulled from obscurity is likely to help their cause.
    Little wonder advertisers have left them in droves due to their poor ratings/readership. How Hywood keeps his job is beyond me.

  82. Sinclair Davidson

    I’ve got no problem with people criticizing either Jonathan Green or Andrew Leigh. But criticize them for what they have actually done or said and not just for their mere existence.

  83. JC

    As an editor he has promoted diversity of views, both at Crikey and at the Drum. He is the only ABC presenter who’ll have me on his show. Let alone both Roger and me.

    It’s transparently obvious sinc. He’s only doing that in order to say he has a diversity of views. Greens isn’t trying to promote diversity of opinion there at all. If he did 53% of the ABC would be rightwing.

    As for Henderson implying and singling Green ought to be sacked well I agree with you. Gerard was wrong to do that. Green shouldn’t be the only one singled out for the boot. There’s 267 of them that ought to be. On the same day!

  84. JC

    Judith says:-

    In any case, Mark Scott doesn’t have meaningful management control over news and current affairs and so is powerless to do anything, even if he wanted to (which he does not).

    So why have a CEO at all then? The job of a CEO is to steer a directional course, set objectives, ensure compliance and choosing the best available people to execute the plans. If Scott is unable to do those things then boot the bastard and find someone else.

    I don’t want to hear that their ABC is a peculiar animal in this regard because I find that argument to be seriously lacking in substance.

    If there’s nothing in the charter which says the ABC’s CEO is unable to fire staff then anything suggesting Scott is unable to perform these functions is crap.

  85. JC

    I’ve got no problem with people criticizing either Jonathan Green or Andrew Leigh. But criticize them for what they have actually done or said and not just for their mere existence.

    That’s good then as I always explain the reasons why I find Andy to be a jerkoff.

  86. Sinclair Davidson

    JC – except he used to commission work from me before he moved to the ABC. Whatever his motivation now at least he makes the effort, unlike the others.

  87. Sinclair Davidson

    That’s good then as I always explain the reasons why I find Andy to be a jerkoff.

    Except that what you think is a reason, I don’t. To explain the you think he is a jerkoff who jerks off as jerkoffs do may make sense to you; hell it might even be true, yet I find it unconvincing.

    Just saying.

  88. Crossie

    In any case, Mark Scott doesn’t have meaningful management control over news and current affairs and so is powerless to do anything, even if he wanted to (which he does not).

    Then what does he do to earn the $750,ooo?

  89. JC

    Sinc

    He actually ran on a platform critical of getting rid of APS. He actually ran with the line that Howard did a terrible thing by dumping APS and how it hurt Canberra.

    He goes into what amounts to saying a prayer to aboriginals referring to them as “original owners”, thanking them for allowing him to be on their land and recognizing their so called ownerhsip.

    He run against some of the things he’s said as an economist.

    He ran with his so-called research the ABC was righting.

    I find him to be the biggest phony in Parliament, which is a big thing to say seeing the places is populated with phonies. In some ways I find him more reprehensible than Shane Wand because although Wand was a lying arsehole, he didn’t always lie as he particularly stupid and didn’t know. Leigh on the other hand knows all too well what he’s up to.

  90. james

    Sinclair I hold many disturbing views myself, but you really need to explain why you find this toerag worth defending.

    As far as I can see he is just another parasitic toerag telling the rest of us why we should feel so ashamed of what we are that we should continue funding toerags like himself.

  91. JC

    And Sinc. measure Leigh by the comments yo and several other people made at the beginning (jase was one, I think)- when he was running for parliament.

    You and others said that he was a good add for Liars because he’s smart and is a good economist. What liar party policies has stood against and there were cargo ships fill of bad Liar policies he could have taken a stand against? There have been none. In fact I would argue that Leigh is on the left of the Liars.

  92. Empire Strikes Back

    Then what does he do to earn the $750,ooo?

    It goes like this…

    Scott gets paid seven fiddy large (compliments of net taxpayers) to secure a million large in recurrent funding (compliments of net taxpayers) for an outfit that slanders the people who pay for it.

    By any measure, that’s an amazing achievement. If it wasn’t documented in their financial reports, you wouldn’t believe it.

  93. I’ve always found [Green] to be professional in his work

    With the greatest respect*, I beg to differ; I submit that, though Green may be civil and even personable, he fails in his professional duties, and it hardly even competent at his assigned job. The grudging dispensation of a few appearances on ABC sites and programmes is not in the service of diversity, in compliance with the obligations of the ABC’s Charter but merely so the ABC can protest, “Biased? Why, we let even kooks like Prof. Davidson—and he’s South African!—spout any capitalist nonsense or far-fetched conspiracy theories they like!

    *usually, but not in this case, of course, “with the greatest respect,” means “I have no respect for you at all”—as I say in my song, “(When I say) I’m Sorry”. Caution: the song is very, very rude.

  94. hammy

    For once I agree with Sinclair. Both Jonathon and Andrew are very intelligent operatives, and each of them fully deserves our respect. Henderson is a bigoted fool.

  95. Tel

    Louis Hissink,
    If your that stuck for comms why don’t you point a satellite dish at one of the many freely available services up there? Search for a website called lyngsat and it has details for just about every service on Earth. The equipment is not very expensive and out in the middle of nowhere where you are it never rains, so you should get a good signal all the time.

  96. Sinclair Davidson

    The biggest phoney in the parliament? Come on JC. That’s just silly – you know that. He’s just the biggest phoney you’re aware of. :-)

  97. Tel

    So it’s a bit a like a slow motion train wreck, and all the Coalition can do is to slow it down a bit to lessen the damage when everything turns into doo foo economically.

    You forget that America is further down the path than we are, slowing the train wreck on our side widens that gap giving us more options when the SHTF. That’s a really important thing. Also, a successful mildly freedom-supporting and somewhat culturally conservative government (no one in Canberra is really “liberal” in the traditional meaning of the word) here in Australia could be a source of hope in other places.

  98. Aliice

    The only thing I really object to on the ABC (Must admit dont watch enough of it to determine any bias – I must have biased myself) is that its news is so SO boring and for the most part consists of a lot of newspaper readings with zoom in shots of newspaper headlines. Its as if the ABC is dedicated to keeping newspapers alive.
    I would agree that they dont actually go out and get their own news. If I wanted to read the paper I might buy one but it seems if I watch ABC news I only have to read the national headlines and nothing more. Really – I mostly just watch ABC news to see the latest croc heading in Darwin.

  99. Empire Strikes Back

    The biggest phoney in the parliament? Come on JC. That’s just silly – you know that. He’s just the biggest phoney you’re aware of. :-)

    Agreed. The biggest phoney crony is almost certainly a Lib.

  100. Danzig_misfit

    Q and A without a Greens rent-a-crowd would be a good start. Sick of hearing the cheer every time an intersex whale is mentioned.

  101. incoherent rambler

    He is the only ABC presenter who’ll have me on his show.

    So the appearance fee makes hime a reasonable presenter?

  102. incoherent rambler

    Faine (via TASS) says that “Questioning authority has always been an integral part of the ABC’s identity.”

    Hmmm. Did he question JG over the AWU scandal?
    Was it Jon that said we should trust those “scientists” in lab coats? No need to question that we are all gunna burn from AGW. (No greater authority than a white coat!)
    Did Jon asked any questions of senior government figures about union corruption?
    Has Jon questioned the sustainability myth?

    Someone get me a drink!

  103. jupes

    He is the only ABC presenter who’ll have me on his show.

    So you will be played like almost all conservative / non-leftists who appear on the ABC.

    Not wanting to be seen as unhinged right wing fascists, most token non-leftists go out of their way to be seen as reasonable and find points of agreement with their hosts. This is a massive tactical error as it just reinforces to lefties that they are correct.

    Take a sickie Sinc and send Fisky. Green needs to be attacked not sucked up to.

  104. Ivan Denisovich

    As an editor he has promoted diversity of views, both at Crikey and at the Drum. He is the only ABC presenter who’ll have me on his show.

    Diversity:

    At The Drum, one conservative opinion is all it requires to legitimise a dozen from the Left.

    Take, for example, the death of Osama bin Laden. Since his death, Drum readers have been provided with pretty much the same opinion every day from a total of nine writers: it was an extrajudiciary killing; the US was working outside the rule of law; celebrations of his death were disgraceful.

    One of these writers, Greg Barns, went so far as to appear on The Drum’s television show to express doubt that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11.

    Two contributors were eventually published wishing good riddance to bad rubbish, enough for the ABC to claim it has provided a diversity of perspectives, and publish another brace of tales from the hand-wringers.

    But it is ridiculous to assert, as the ABC’s chief executive Mark Scott did following the launch of the ABC’s editorial policies in 2006, that this fulfils an expectation that “audiences must not be able to reasonably conclude that the ABC has taken an editorial stand on matters of contention and public debate”.

    The real measure of bias at The Drum is not the range of opinion, it’s the frequency. Until the end of last month, 98 writers had been published eight or more times at The Drum, producing a total of 1880 articles. Only eight of these contributors (one in 12) would pass muster as being on the right of the political spectrum: Glenn Milne, David Barnett, Chris Berg, Kevin Donnelly, Tom Switzer, John Hewson, Niki Savva and Sinclair Davidson.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/aunty-makes-no-secret-of-prejudice/story-e6frgd0x-1226053493121

  105. Abu Chowdah

    He is the only ABC presenter who’ll have me on his show.

    You’re to Catallaxy as Malcolm Turnbull is the the Liberal Party!

    ;)

  106. whyisitso

    right of the political spectrum: Glenn Milne, David Barnett, Chris Berg, Kevin Donnelly, Tom Switzer, John Hewson, Niki Savva and Sinclair Davidson.

    John Hewson?????????????????????????????????????

  107. entropy

    Yeah, hews on is not only a lefty he also is not a good role model for anyone.
    And Glen Mline? Apart from being the victim of government censorship, he isn’t smart enough to be on the right

  108. Toiling Mass

    Sinc, you should ask Green what he thinks of feels about Gerard’s piece.

    We are talking about lefties, after all.

  109. cohenite

    Green is a follower of the herd, like all lefties, but as Sinclair says he did publish sceptical views when he was editor of The Drum; sceptics like Jo Nova, David Stockwell and Anthony Cox were published under his watch despite the usual arrogant snivelling from the likes of Clive Hamilton and astronomer Michael Brown.

    Now under the editorship of the execrable Chip Rolley no sceptic gets published. Does that make Green a reasonable man? His views on AGW, a disproved ‘theory’ and the equally disproved boat people speaks of serious defects in his cognitive processes. But if he is just doing it to fit in with the tribe, and the left are such tribalists that doing so would be second nature to him then we could say he is a reasonable leftie.

    Or is that an oxymoron?

  110. james

    Yes Green is not as bad as some.

    That doesn’t make him good. The man is a self important, self obsessed, sneering cretin.

  111. boy on a bike

    You’re to Catallaxy as Malcolm Turnbull is the the Liberal Party!

    Careful – you might get banned for calling the Doomlord a “T…….”.

  112. cynical1

    “The man is nothing but a snobbish sneering self satisfactory scumbag”.

    Harsh.

    But fair..

  113. simply abc

    While ever the likes of Sen. McDonald (Lib, Qld) can’t even cite an example of bias when invited to do so (see his Radio National breakfast interview on Thursday) they are unable to meet the basic requirement of “facts” as set out by Cater. Typical blather from right.

  114. Squirrel

    If anything, Jonathan Green probably deserves credit for being clear and public about his views – as quoted in the Gerard Henderson article. But then where, on the ABC, is the regular, prominent (i.e. not just token) balancing view? – the host, compere, commentator who doesn’t see “complacent suburbanites”, but rather decent middle Australia, dealing with day-to-day realities, while being prodded, poked and patronised by the comfortable elites who make a nice living off the public purse, or in other fields which have yet to experience the full bracing effects of the competitive forces which the elites tend to see as a good thing for others. The closest I have seen the ABC come to this is in a few episodes of Rake, where the wankery and affectations of some elite Sydneysiders are neatly portrayed and satirised – but that is a very long way from balance in daily news, and the commentary on it.

  115. JC

    And they appear to be such a happy couple!

    It is the question that has been dominating Washington dinner parties for weeks – could the once-golden First Couple of the United States really be heading for the rocks?

    If rumours are to be believed, the 21-year marriage of Barack and Michelle Obama has been racked by screaming rows, allegations of infidelity and a string of jealous fights.

    While the White House has refused to comment on the reports there has been a distinct frostiness in the air between the couple in recent months.

    According to a report in the National Enquirer – which plastered ‘Obama Divorce Bombshell!’ across its front page – the pair have been at loggerheads since last summer and are now sleeping in separate bedrooms.

    The ‘final straw’, apparently, was Michelle’s outrage when her husband publicly humiliated her by openly flirting and posing for his now infamous ‘selfie’ photograph with Denmark’s glamorous blonde Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt at Nelson Mandela’s memorial service.

    According to published reports, Mrs Obama is only standing by her 52-year-old husband until his presidency ends.

    She may as well leave now since his presidency pretty much is toast.

    http://www.jammiewf.com/2014/state-of-the-obama-union-not-so-good-apparently/

  116. Bruce of Newcastle

    simply abc – Well I would have no objection to the ABC if I wasn’t paying for it.

    Would you subscribe, stumping up real money, for their preaching? Probably. But I do not attend their church. Why do I have to pay tithes for the ABC through taxation when each 7pm ABC news bulletin sounds like an edition of Green Left Weekly?

    If you don’t believe me try watching 7 Network News instead. Or even SBS. The contrast is immense.

  117. H B Bear

    If you don’t believe me try watching 7 Network News instead. Or even SBS. The contrast is immense.

    Mark “Shit happens” Riley on 7, Jabba and Ten’s Bungjourno are as bad as anything the ALPBC slops up. The Socialist Broadcasting Service‘s Karen “Giblets” Middleton is unwatchable on any number of fronts.

  118. James Moylan, of the HEMP Party (and a Marxist), “Why Abbott wants to kill-off the ABC and why we have to stop him”:

    The commercial press in Australia do not represent the views of Aussies: but the ABC does.
    […]
    But to hear the huge outpouring of self interested tripe being spouted by the News Limited press recently (as well as by elements of Fairfax) you would think that the ABC is reflecting only a tiny little segment of a huge market and carries only propaganda of a purely Marxist (or at least hard left) anti-capitalist, man hating, tree hugging sort. In fact the ABC that is depicted and then used as a stalking horse in the mythologies of our mainstream media simply does not exist.
    In reality seven out of ten Aussies still think that the ABC is, far and away, the ‘most trusted source for news and current affairs’. Why? Simply because the ABC usually reflects the commonsense viewpoint of most Australians. This is why the Abbot attack seems to be, and is, so much more vitriolic and genuine than those engaged by his predecessors. Abbott does not point to any particular instances of bias but rather that the ABC dared to report on certain subjects at all because they are un-Australian and so treasonous.
    […]
    What happens in our country if the ABC disappears? First and foremost it means that all of our information will be provided to us by people who have a vested interest in the content being provided. We can look back and actually provide a scorecard for the ABC as far as its views are concerned. Since it reflects the Australian character rather than the viewpoint of a corporate owner the ABC provides for a clearer distillation of the Australian viewpoint than does any other public channel. This is a simple statement of truth.
    […]
    But our so-called ‘mainstream press’ – which is owned 100% by rich sectional interests […] is entirely reactionary. Sometimes reactionary on the left, but more often in line with a corporate imperative. It is obvious that the mainstream press barons will denigrate the ABC whether or not the critique is warranted on the simple basis that they are commercial rivals. However they are also ideological enemies. Our mainstream press is engaged in a 24/7 battle to mould the viewpoint of the Aussie citizen. Through advertising and opinion pieces our mainstream press has something to sell.

    […]
    This is the major difference: the ABC reflects the viewpoint that our mainstream press are trying to move us away from. The owners of the Australian and the Fairfax group want us to be cheap labour or passive and uncritical consumers.
    […]
    The owners of capital and enterprises or the clergy always get a good hearing, but every other voice is labeled as being non-mainstream’.
    […]
    Back in the real world where the rest of us complain and then this is reflected on the local ABC: our viewpoint is labeled as being ‘extreme’. For example: if you asked any one of the listeners to the ABC around Sheparton I think they would likely say that the SPC cannery needs to be funded. But not because the seditious ABC has changed everyone in Sheparton into a raging socialist: but rather because most people in the community think that the government should support the cannery (as well as be in favour of higher wages and a more equal society). […]

  119. Louis Hissink

    Geoffrey Luck has written a very provocative piece on Quadrant Online today about the ABC, Rotten to its Red-Raggin’ Core.

    The Marxists have indeed control of it, but then do they also control Fairfax and Crikey? And I wonder if Marxists have disabused themselves of exterminating their class enemies?

  120. james

    That Moylan rant posted by Deadman above tells you everything you need to know.

    The viewpoint of Humanities educated public servants is not a narrow sectional interest with vested interests in propagating politics favourable to their future employment prospects… Oh no…

    It is the viewpoint of all Australians, and anyone who disagrees has been brainwashed by the extreme right wing, ultra capitalist commercial media.

    They actually believe this.

  121. CatAttack

    I don’t watch much TV but when I do it is almost exclusively ABC and SBS. I know that makes me in the minority here but my relationship with the ABC is a love / hate one though like the girl who is great in bed but drives you crazy. It’s a huge mistake then to assume that everyone who watches the ABC is by definition a Lefty.

    The idea however that ABC represents the views of most Australians though is patently absurd.

    But the campaign to give balance to the ABC is fraught with land mines and the Left have already started planting some. Check out the comments on the Australian Unions Humpty Dumpty save the ABC campaign on Facebook. The dominant line is that the ABC is there to balance the evil Murdoch empire (Foxtel conspiracy alert).

    It was illuminating then that this and other pro ABC responses repeated the ABCs own editorialising line i.e. Abbott says ABC UNPATRIOTIC when in fact he had said nothing of the sort. There was of course the obligatory linkage to the phone hacking scandal in England and by definition the Murdoch666 empire (cue maniacal laughter and stroking of Persian) . Leftards REALLY believe this conspiravy stuff. It’s going to get dirty.

    Rest assured the actual campaign to defend the ABC will be about evil Abbott killing off the Bananas in pyjamas and Big Ted and appeals to nostalgia. Beware though even folks who now never watch the ABC could be stirred to action if they they think their childhood memories are being interfered with.

    Never under-estimate the ability of the Left to outright lie if they think their turf is being encroached on.

    PS On Green! I still contend that no one out sneers or out smirks Mike Secombe but Green is a close second.

  122. jupes

    If you don’t believe me try watching 7 Network News instead. Or even SBS. The contrast is immense.

    True. But what does that say about the state of the news in Australia? There is NO reliable news outlet on free to air TV. Sky news on Foxtel is probably the best, but even that place is full of lefties.

    Luckily for us Al Gore invented the internet.

  123. davey street

    Hear hear. The ABC is staffed by close to 3000 members of the CPSU. What else would you expect but pro-union/ALP/Green garbage 24/7

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