Thursday forum: February 6, 2014

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  1. Armadillo

    Geez, Sensitivity Central this afternoon. Next thing you bastards will be laying the boot into poor innocent bookmakers. We are only doing our job ya know. Sure, we may not get abused to our faces, but we know what you mob are thinking and saying behind our backs. It hurts. If it weren’t for bank managers, we would be totally friendless. Try walking in our shoes for a day.

  2. Splatacrobat

    Sitting in cairns airport waiting for my flight. Plane is full due to Chinese New Year and an aboriginal conference. I’m sitting next to lee kwong gulpilil .
    Apparently it’s the year of the rat…….tailed wallaby?

  3. squawkbox

    I think the real question of the day is why six grown men cannot arrest of a woman.

    I think things changed when they got rid of minimum heights. I don’t know how things are in the east, but a disproportionate number of WA cops are fat little midgets. It’s difficult not to break into a chorus of “hiho, hiho, it’s off to work we go” when I see more than one of them. No wonder they resort to tasers so often.

    Bring back minimum heights and compulsory membership of a rugby club!

    As a useless piece of information for your delectation, there used to be a 6′ minimum height for members of the City of London police force. Clearly a firm and oversized hand was needed to deal with those City traders.

  4. calli

    Hells Bells! I wasn’t trying to be the censor…just an illustration of the nonsense (but nice little earner) proposed by FO’B.

    I am far less aggressive online than in real life, but you just have to take my word for it. My ears are dulled by the concritters and the brickies and the landscrapers.

    Sorry, Sinc, but that will be another $500 plus another $500 for the personal insult to my personal person for telling me (robustly) to…well…go away.

  5. WhaleHunt Fun

    The Queensland Police ought to be embarrassed, ashamed of themselves.

    Not in my hero, Russ Hinze’s day it didn’t. The ruptured shin bag of broken organs that was the suspect was shovelled up off the bottom of the staircase they slipped on when descending, all by one constable.
    They wrre not the good old days, they were the great old days. Police earned your respect the old-fashioned way.

  6. Steve of Glasshouse

    Brian and Tom..time for a bit of peace pipe smoking

  7. Steve of Glasshouse

    I think Taser training involves going for centre mass; some body shapes make that difficult

  8. Grigory M

    a bloke who drinks Coke Zero and a genetically belligerent woman who knows the bouncer

    ESB, what is this? Charades?

  9. feelthebern

    Pet hate: posting & then a new page starts.
    It tears me up inside, Milhouse-style.

  10. Steve of Glasshouse

    Q. How can you tell if someone is a Vegan?

    A. They will tell you

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I heard on the radio coming home (so it must be true) that there is a fine of $500 being proposed for rude words here in glorious NSW. Sounds like a nice little earner.

    Oh fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. It’s easy as that. Like badly hammering in a nail.
    That’s $3,500 for Sinclair (noted communist) should he instigate this rule on the Cat.
    And I have lost my reputation for ladylike behaviour with this simple demonstration.
    Or do they mean the C-bomb? I would not use that word as above, here, that is for sure.
    Altogether too blushering for me.

  12. Steve of Glasshouse

    Did I ever let slip that I work for the ATO?

  13. Try again JC. I’m here as time allows – maybe one day a week. So tell me, who appointed you as arbiter of all things acceptable at The Cat?
    You are a complete cock who uses his time here to lord it over everybody else. Of course, you have the advantage of longevity, but that just means you have more mouldy cheese on your ball-sack than anybody else.
    Sadly, I’m not in the least bit inclined to bow down before you. Lift your game, washed-up cock-sucking moron that you are.

    Hey! I think I’m getting the hang of JC-speak!

  14. Oh come on

    I think there’s a great senator, a great Greens’ senator called Scott Ludlam, he’s a great visionary. I think people like Tim Winton are great visionaries.

    Umm, I think, I think, I think Peter Garrett actually is a very brave and, um, powerful visionary. Somebody who’s, he was happy to put everything on the line in what he believed in. So, I, I, I, admire bravery – and bravery to throw reputation to the wind almost in a way because you believe in a cause.

    So, um, Christine Milne I think she stands for – I think Bob Brown is great. I mean, I think all the viewers are going to go “Oh classic Greenie” here. But two-party, two-party politics in this country or America is a joke. It’s an absolute joke. I think Labor and Liberal are exactly the same thing and I think Tony Abbott, is, is, is an embarrassment to have as a leader, personally.

    Look, I would be amazed, gobsmacked, astonished if John Butler didn’t hold these perspectives. He’s a Fremantle blue-blood, and unsurprisingly he holds very conservative leftwing Fremantle blue-blood views.

  15. Tom

    If it weren’t for bank managers, we would be totally friendless.

    LOL, Armadillo. What’s you latest thought on Griffith? Are the corporates going to be skun?

  16. Armadillo

    Did I ever let slip that I work for the ATO?

    Damn. There goes my chances of becoming a figure of derision and hatred.

  17. H B Bear

    John Butler – Fremantle personified.

  18. Rabz

    The Perfesser’s protege, the grinning idiot, let’s loose with another grab bag of fact and evidence free idiocy:

    Debunking claims that Australia is a high-tax country

  19. Rabz

    aaarrggghhh!

    “lets loose”

  20. Oh come on

    John Butler is an exceedingly conservative elitist.

  21. Rabz

    John Butler is an exceedingly conservative elitist.

    He sounds like an exceedingly drug addled imbecile.

    Oh – and his ‘music’ is shit.

  22. Oh come on

    In fact, he is a big-government conservative elitist. Rather like George W Bush, really.

  23. Oh come on

    (although he is clearly not as accomplished, intelligent or well-read as Bush)

  24. Oh come on

    Oh, how profound. He feels like he has a holistic approach to some stuff.

  25. C.L.

    Defence Minister David Johnston calls for inquiry into the ABC over its Navy torture lies.

    The SMH’s left-wing “National affairs editor” (LOL) springs into action …

    David Johnston goes overboard with ABC criticism.

    Until now, no one had actually accused the ABC of “maliciously maligning” the navy. The dictionary definition of malicious is “intending or intended to do harm”.

    That’s right.

  26. JC

    Brian

    FFS, I’ve seen booze buses stopping people for testing at 11 am in the morning. That’s just rediculous and it’s the coppers pulling those stunts not the pols.

  27. Armadillo

    What’s you latest thought on Griffith?

    Some very differing accounts about polling around (ranging from Labors worried to Labors quietly confident). As pointed out, seat by seat odds at the election turned out to be rubbish. The leadership coup by Rimmer was the one you could definitely tell that someone had the inside running. Voters as (as opposed to political operaratives are harder to predict). I reckon Glasson is still a reasonable bet for a small ‘speckie’ even though he has come in a fair bit – just for interests sake.

  28. C’mon JC. Let ‘er rip. After all, you have the advantage: You are the protected species here. What’s up? Chicken?

  29. Grigory M

    FFS, I’ve seen booze buses stopping people for testing at 11 am in the morning. That’s just rediculous

    Willie Mason

    Fucking sensible for mine, JC.

  30. Tom

    John Butler – Fremantle personified.

    The hell is going on over there, Humphrey? You got a whole suburb who think like that???

  31. JC

    “My best fwends are coppers, leave’em alone”.

    Just pathetic.

  32. Armadillo

    I’ve seen booze buses stopping people for testing at 11 am in the morning

    I don’t have a problem with speeding fines, but I reckon busting people who have perhaps left their car at the pub/club the night before and then collecting it in the morning is pretty shite.

  33. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Where is Professor Bunyip? Will he ever return to the Billabong? It’s a lonely old place to visit now.
    Only his ghost may be heard as you pass by.

  34. Steve of Glasshouse

    JC..those booze vans nail their share of footie players.Asides from that bonus, plenty of over the limit piss heads on the roads at 1100; they’re just too stupid to know the physiology of alcohol elimination.
    If the boys in blue were really mean, they’d just stake out the local Maccas

  35. “My best fwends are coppers, leave’em alone”.

    Just pathetic.

    Yeah. You’ve done that. Several times. It was as pathetic the last time as the first. Anything else?

  36. feelthebern

    As much as I would like Glasson to win tomorrow (just to put another one in the LNP column), I cant help but think if he did win, the community would be the loser.
    That is, no matter how much good he did in the Parliament, he would be able to have so much more impact on peoples lives continuing in his current activities.

    I know, I know, if we follow that logic, only the worst in society would be in the parliament….

  37. JC

    Gregory

    Is there someone drunk driving at 11am in the morning on every single morning. Of course there is.

    It’s easy for the coppers at that hour. Crank the booze up at 930 , close it up at 11.30 and you at maccas counter by 11.45.

  38. Oh come on

    The hell is going on over there, Humphrey? You got a whole suburb who think like that???

    Pretty much, yeah. I see it as voluntary gerrymandering, though. It’s a good thing.

  39. Tom

    I cant help but think if he did win, the community would be the loser.

    So you’d rather have an opposition MP representing you in parliament?

  40. Grigory M

    It’s easy for the coppers at that hour. Crank the booze up at 930 , close it up at 11.30 and you at maccas counter by 11.45.

    WTF? Are you related to Tom?

    Is there someone drunk driving at 11am in the morning on every single morning. Of course there is.

    Then it makes sense to ping the bastards and get them off the road. Yes?

  41. C.L.

    Speeding’s pretty stupid.

    My favourites are the dudes who rush off from lights and weave in and out of lanes for four or five sets of lights. On the fifth set – before parting ways – you casually pull up beside them, still no further ahead than they were five blocks earlier. Always makes me laugh.

  42. twostix

    John Butler had exactly one good song ten years ago. Nobody remembers the name of it.

    Why the ABC thinks that anybody cares what a busker who had a popular song a decade ago thinks about national politics I do not know, but talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

  43. feelthebern

    So you’d rather have an opposition MP representing you in parliament?
    No.

    What I’m saying is that in an parliament where most of them would struggle to get a job in a sandwhich shop (outside of consulting), a really productive member of society is trying to get elected to the place.

  44. Armadillo

    So you’d rather have an opposition MP representing you in parliament?

    Strange that. The voters here in New England never seemed to mind electing Windbag until he actually got the balance of power and started throwing cash about like confetti. Then everyone hated him because he was turncoat. Go figure. I only hated him from day one because he was a fucking idiot.

  45. calli

    It would be interesting to see the stats on the mid-morning RBT’s.

    A lot of pisspots go on all night benders and think they are fit to drive the following morning. Alcohol combined with only a little sleep would be a pretty lethal combination.

    Many years ago, my dearest one watched as his best friend was run over by a drunk in the middle of the day. It happens.

  46. FFS, I’ve seen booze buses stopping people for testing at 11 am in the morning. That’s just rediculous

    Yeah, how rediculous (sic) is that? Dumb prick coppers. Went through one of those two weeks ago at 10am! The six blokes sitting on the little plastic chairs – you know, the ones who left the nightclub at 5am and shotgunned a few Jager bombs after they got home, fell asleep at 8am, but KNEW they were ok to drive by 10 – were victims I tells ya. Victims!
    JC, it isn’t that you’re a dumb prick, more that if dumb pricks were on sale at K-Mart, you’d be in the remaindered box.

  47. C.L.

    Talk about wall-to-wall.

    Ads and promos for the INXS movie are everywhere on the airwaves.

    Really interested to know how they’re going to romanticise dying in a closet.

  48. Oh come on

    Conventional wisdom suggests it’d be pretty unlikely for a coalition candidate to win a by-election in anything other than a blue ribbon LNP seat even if the Abbott government was in the middle of a Rudd-like honeymoon. Glasson seems like a good candidate with a national profile. I’m not sure why he’s being wasted here – if he loses again, surely that’ll be it for his political career?

  49. C.L.

    As Glenn Reynolds has pointed out ad nauseum, random breath testing was introduced because most drivers under the influence don’t actually do anything detectably illegal or dangerous.

    As far as I’m concerned the state has no business detaining people without cause.

    It should illegal.

  50. calli

    Conventional wisdom suggests it’d be pretty unlikely for a coalition candidate to win a by-election

    The last one to be won was in 1920.

  51. Oh come on

    My favourites are the dudes who rush off from lights and weave in and out of lanes for four or five sets of lights. On the fifth set – before parting ways – you casually pull up beside them, still no further ahead than they were five blocks earlier. Always makes me laugh.

    Ah, yes. You remember them, but you don’t remember the ones that got away. Sample error, CL!

    The chronic lane-changers are ridiculous, but I have no problem with brisk acceleration, circumstances permitting. It does generally get you from A to B more quickly.

  52. Dan

    The Grinning Idiot

    Since then, federal Labor delivered significant personal income tax cuts. When Peter Costello was describing us as a low-tax country, our tax to GDP ratio was 24 percent. After six years of Labor, our national tax to GDP ratio is 23 percent.

    Isn’t this a lie? Didn’t Penny Wong try the same trick?

  53. Dan

    Really interested to know how they’re going to romanticise dying in a closet.

    ..Fade to black….

    Never tear us apart starts playing

    Dial into a scene of Kim Wilson and a door doing the tango as the credits roll

  54. H B Bear

    The hell is going on over there, Humphrey? You got a whole suburb who think like that???

    Actually it is worse than that. I think Philippa is the Fremantle specialist?

    A more authoritative assessment of the Winton oeuvre can be found here. My claim to fame is the fat bastard dropped in on me when I was having a surf south of Cottesloe ages ago.

  55. Andrew

    Since then, federal Labor delivered significant personal income tax cuts. When Peter Costello was describing us as a low-tax country, our tax to GDP ratio was 24 percent. After six years of Labor, our national tax to GDP ratio is 23 percent.

    How these people get into Parliament, I do not know?

  56. Ellen of Tasmania

    Shoss, I think it would help you to go and read C S Lewis’s essay ‘The Inner Ring‘.

    “There are what correspond to passwords, but they are too spontaneous and informal. A particular slang, the use of particular nicknames, an allusive manner of conversation, are the marks. But it is not so constant. It is not easy, even at a given moment, to say who is inside and who is outside. Some people are obviously in and some are obviously out, but there are always several on the borderline.”

    Even the blogosphere is invaded by it. Of course the Cat is. If you don’t like it, then just leave it alone. Or develop a healthier philosophy and enjoy watching.

  57. Steve D

    calli
    #1181168, posted on February 7, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Conventional wisdom suggests it’d be pretty unlikely for a coalition candidate to win a by-election

    The last one to be won was in 1920.

    MWD points out that it was an abberation in itself. Search for Glasson.

  58. Makka

    “Since then, federal Labor delivered significant personal income tax cuts. When Peter Costello was describing us as a low-tax country, our tax to GDP ratio was 24 percent. After six years of Labor, our national tax to GDP ratio is 23 percent. ”

    Meh. 23 , 24 % is still too high. That number does not disclose the punitive INCOME taxes we pay or the the deceitful excises placed on fuel and alcohol etc. The also the convoluted Company tax system with all it’s myriad loophole which forces Govt to come after the easy targets like ME.

    The issue is not to use taxes a redistribution of wealth but as a means to fund specific socail and national services to agreed standards. That’s it. ATM , after tax incomes are viewed as theft from either Business or the ATO and are mercilessly attacked accordingly- so that more of legitimately earned money can be distributed to the poor welfare bogans so they don’t feel left behind in this bountiful country. Votes, in other words.

  59. The chronic lane-changers are ridiculous,

    In 1983 a mate and myself paid $100 for a clapped out HG Premier. We filled the front quarter panels with concrete, got third party insurance, then spent our time cruising the Narrows waiting for Volvo drivers to change lanes without indicating. Our KPC (Kill Per Crossing) was quite good until the suspension gave out.

  60. johanna

    I don’t know about the tax ratio, but remember that Labor took money out of all our pockets via its green agenda. We got skyrocketing household energy bills which flowed through to business as well, and hence the price of everything. We got support for things like mandatory “green” standards for construction. We got crippling environmental objections to mining and other projects, supported by the Feds.

    Then there was the legislative and moral support for unions to plunder companies and consumers.

    These items would not appear in the tax column, but the effect was the same.

  61. Makka

    Apologies for the many spelling errors in that last comment. Vexing subject. Grrr.

  62. C.L.

    I don’t buy the auto-erotic asphyxiation story re Hutchence.

    Hard to believe but families often claim this was the cause of death because the obvious alternative is too traumatic for them to accept.

  63. calli

    Yes, Ellen. Lewis was a great observer of human nature. He often comes to mind, not just reading the Cat, but in all sorts of situations. His comments on what we would now call ‘food porn’ is interesting too.

  64. No, Ellen. I’m sorry, but JC is an arsehole. While most of the Cat seems happy to accept that and bow down to it, I’m not. As long as I am not banned I assume that I am accepted here. While I’m accepted here, I won’t put up up with his arbitrary character assassination of whoever it takes his fancy to dislike.
    Fuck ‘im. This is either a libertarian blog where all views are welcome and can be debated without abuse or it is JC and Gab’s private wankfest.

  65. Demosthenes

    Have people seen the Google doodle today? Not very subtle.

    Pity Nolan didn’t invent this plug-in when gillard was PM, oh but that would be sexist, misogynistic blah blah blah. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

    Dan is a hardcore libertarian and comedic genius who despises Gillard. I’m pretty sure this is just his way of profiting off the Abbott-haters.

  66. Ed

    I don’t buy the auto-erotic asphyxiation story re Hutchence.

    Hard to believe but families often claim this was the cause of death because the obvious alternative is too traumatic for them to accept.

    The coroner agreed with you and didn’t buy it either.
    He said that Hutchence was in a depressed state and not thinking clearly.

  67. calli

    Yes, Ellen.

    No, Ellen.

    Shall we come to blows, Shoss? Pistols at dawn? But who will claim Ellen as their second? :)

  68. Oh come on

    I laughed like a drain when I heard that mob of feral hippies living in the wardens’ cottages had been evicted. God knows where they all ended up. I vaguely knew a few of them a decade ago – including the ‘queen bee’ of the hive, who was a nasty little passive-aggressive middle-aged man. In general, they were useless wastes of space who thought everyone else was wrong and regarded their two hours a week spent volunteering at an organic vegetable garden as a revolutionary activity.

    Re. the cottages – incredible that these historic buildings were used as public housing until very recently. I believe the Fremantle council expects them to be restored (at enormous expense) and again used as public housing. Then again, that’s Freo.

  69. No Calli.
    No blows. Lets just say I have nothing to lose so I’m happy to tell it how it is. The entire time I have been coming here I have been watching commentators cowed by JC and his sidekicks. How it has been allowed I can’t conceive, but there you go.
    JC is a bully who has somehow made himself some sort of Cat guru. He isn’t a guru, he’s a dick.

  70. Dan

    I have received a completed police brief into the death of Michael Kelland Hutchence on 22nd November, 1997, at Ritz Carlton Hotel, Double Bay. I am satisfied that the cause of death was “hanging”. I am also satisfied that there was no other person involved in causing the death.

    Make of it what you will I suppose

  71. Talleyrand

    I see Scott Morrison has brought back a form of
    temporary protection visas for existing refugees, which does not given permanent status nor family reunion. Of course SHY cries, the Refugee advocacy groups denounce, and the taxpayer saves, and less dead bodies at sea are actively encouraged by government.

  72. calli

    Can I be cheeky Schoss and recommend a bit more CS Lewis? Surprised by Joy is worth the reading time. Even if you don’t agree with him. This the OT after all…

  73. Sinclair Davidson

    So we’re all a bit grumpy then?

  74. Grigory M

    So we’re all a bit grumpy then?

    Not me. Happy as the proverbial. :)

  75. I’ll be back JC and Gab. I don’t really include Tom, after all he is just a lickspittle who follows your lead. This is, I had thought, everybody’s blog, not just yours.
    Bye for now, pet.

  76. Talleyrand

    It is the heat Sinc, and the cost of good Gin

  77. Ellen of Tasmania

    Yes, Ellen. Lewis was a great observer of human nature.

    Calli – he’s almost uncanny at times, isn’t he? I know what you mean about the ‘food porn’. I was actually listening to that the other day (I have his essays on audible).

    I’ve been reading Lewis since I was in my teens, and I just keep learning. And I do think Shoss would be a happier man if he developed more of a Mr. Bennet attitude -

    “For what do we live, but to make sport for our neighbors, and laugh at them in our turn?”

    But I’m surely pushing Cat boundaries quoting Austen!

  78. Pete of Perth

    Oh come on

    My dad lived in those cottages as a kid. Granddad was a warden at Freo Jail. People considered Freo a slum in those days. Last weekend I visited Freo – too many cashed-up hippies and parking meters.

  79. Sinclair Davidson

    Yes – well. It has dropped 12 degrees where I am and with that I’m off to end of week drinkies.

  80. Notafan

    For people already traumatised by their refugee journey

    will now be heartbroken that this experience will no longer give them access to the tax free DSP until retirement age when they would have been able to return home permanently and live in the mansion built with Australian taxpayer funds

  81. calli

    Happy as Larry here. Dunno about anyone else.

    Done any good smiting lately? I’m about to smite next week and I’ve got the whole weekend ahead to work out my strategy.

  82. calli

    But I’m surely pushing Cat boundaries quoting Austen!

    Not at all. It’s a truth universally acknowledged that one can quote whoever one pleases on the Cat.

  83. Geriatric Mayfly

    Lizzie B at 5.13. I too, pine for The Bunyip. Last time this came up, (I think it was Sinc) assured us that all was well, with a rider. There was no indication if The Professor would sharpen his cudgel in the immediate future. More’s the pity.

  84. Pete of Perth

    Strahan, Tas. Another one-horse town with bloody parking meters

  85. Habib

    Butler’s a collosal hypocrite, but what lefty/hippy isn’t? Trousered a grant from the previous evil liberal government to set up the Seed Fund, a colossal waste of money used to inflict more terrible local acts on the aurally assaulted.

    I’ve also long thought that white males with dreadlocks should have them soaked in kerosene, and lit.

  86. Empire Strikes Back

    It is the heat Sinc, and the cost of good Gin

    The cool breeze is welcome.

    The cost of gin is another matter. The rate of sin tax is obscene. I confess I’ve been slumming it with Bombay Sapphire for last month.

  87. Baldrick

    Sinclair Davidson
    … I’m off to end of week drinkies.

    Mmmm … Raspberry and Coke’s all ’round.

  88. JMH

    Turnbull Watch on Monday night.

    I will subject myself to Q and A and I will be taking notes!

  89. JC

    “I’ll be back”, says Arnie Shoss.

    Hey Shoss, go load up the front fenders with cement and go crash into Volvos, you dickhead. Then go tell all your police fwends what you were doing for kicks. (What an arsehole thing to be doing to people).

  90. JimD

    Why the ABC thinks that anybody cares what a busker who had a popular song a decade ago thinks about national politics I do not know, but talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.
    Why the ABC thinks people won’t be pissed off by their dropping scheduled 24/7 programs for a two hour special on a b… near decade ago convicted of drug smuggling is the bottom of the barrel.
    Good on David Johnstone for calling the ABC for the scum it is.

  91. Brian of Moorabbin

    Yes – well. It has dropped 12 degrees where I am and with that I’m off to end of week drinkies.

    Dropped 8 degrees from the maximum (at 1.00pm) here… considering taking the little bloke for a swim in the bay and then fish’n'chips for picnic dinner

  92. JC

    No, Ellen. I’m sorry, but JC is an arsehole. While most of the Cat seems happy to accept that and bow down to it, I’m not. As long as I am not banned I assume that I am accepted here. While I’m accepted here, I won’t put up up with his arbitrary character assassination of whoever it takes his fancy to dislike.
    Fuck ‘im. This is either a libertarian blog where all views are welcome and can be debated without abuse or it is JC and Gab’s private wankfest.

    No Calli.
    No blows. Lets just say I have nothing to lose so I’m happy to tell it how it is. The entire time I have been coming here I have been watching commentators cowed by JC and his sidekicks. How it has been allowed I can’t conceive, but there you go.
    JC is a bully who has somehow made himself some sort of Cat guru. He isn’t a guru, he’s a dick.

    I get the feeling I’m starting to own your mind Shoss. All you’re doing is thinking about me. LOl

    Nice 180 there dickhead. Only a few hours ago you were comparing the Cat to the ABC’s dumbster, now you’re going all libertarian on us. Cry me a river about who I’ve picked on too, Mr Cement Fender.

    As for being a bully, I don’t go around telling people I filled the front end of my car and then go crashing into people for kicks. That’s a bully in my book and possibly everyone else too.

    “My best fwends are coppers”. Jeez almighty.

  93. Senile Old Guy

    What an arsehole thing to be doing to people.

    As someone who has had his car put into the body shop because a truck changed lanes and crunched my right front, I can’t say I mind.

  94. Oh come on

    It’s interesting to compare Fremantle with Subiaco. Both were solid working class suburbs – Subi started to gentrify in the 70s and Freo shortly after. Today, Subiaco is a core suburb in the clutch of elite western suburbs (don’t forget that, in Perth, the rich live in the western suburbs). Occasionally, Subi residents enjoy flaunting their (rather scanty) working class credentials – particularly when thumbing their noses at those toffs in Claremont – and there are certainly a fair number of OAPs living in Subi who have lived there their whole lives and are very much not well-off. But on the whole, it’s a suburb of wealth and privilege and its residents do not pretend otherwise.

    Fremantle, like Subiaco, is a wealthy neighbourhood. However, the Fremantle rich like to think they’re working class. And they’re textbook champagne socialists, and pride themselves on being inclusive. As a result, a strong counter-culture movement exists in Fremantle. The downside of this is that Freo is crawling with the detritus of this movement – weirdos and nutters as far as the eye can see. And when I say nutters, I mean real, genuine, just-released-from-Graylands nutters. Subi residents would never tolerate these kinds of people soiling their pavements, parks and nature strips (sometimes literally). Fremantle residents, however, think they add colour to the neighbourhood. Which is true, I guess…

  95. Steve of Glasshouse

    Qld News roundup. Corby Taser Sochi. They could tweet that crap and save us an hour

  96. JC

    As someone who has had his car put into the body shop because a truck changed lanes and crunched my right front, I can’t say I mind.

    You mean like you had an accident and because you had an accident other people should be fucked over, right?

    There are hundreds of thousands of people out on the road at most times of the day, driving motor vehicles only a couple of feet from one another…. Humans being human it’s a fucking unexplained miracle we’re not crashing into each other every couple of minutes.

    Think about how often you’re passing a car going the opposite way or in another lane just feet away from you. Think about how rare it is to actually have an accident. When you do, it’s easy to get the car fixed and start again.

  97. Armadillo

    Late money has started to come in Griffith – and it’s all for the ALP.

    Sportsbet has Glasson out from 4.00 to 5.00. Sportingbet 3.75 out to 4.25.

  98. JimD

    Freemantle- Painters and Dockers
    Subiaco- Rail Workers
    Yep, wealthy residents.

  99. calli

    You’re behind the times fellas. All the old Volvo drivers are now in Audis. :D

  100. Senile Old Guy

    You mean like you had an accident and because you had an accident other people should be fucked over, right?

    No, I mean I’m not that bothered if people who don’t pay attention when changing lanes get crunched. Explain to me again why I should. Use little words so I can understand.

  101. Ellen of Tasmania

    considering taking the little bloke for a swim in the bay and then fish’n’chips for picnic dinner

    Go for it, Brian, it’s what childhood memories are made of. I can still remember the delight of heading down to Edithvale after a hot, sweaty day in school. Especially February, when one’s poor feet had to be stuffed back into socks and lace-ups after all their summer freedom. And wasn’t Friday night invented for fish’n'chips?

  102. Subi residents would never tolerate these kinds of people soiling their pavements, parks and nature strips (sometimes literally). Fremantle residents, however, think they add colour to the neighbourhood. Which is true, I guess…

    Right on most counts, except that you forgot Wandana, the heritage-listed three-giant-block public housing estate on the edge of Subiaco, which is full of bedbugs, rats, lice and Very Interesting People, some of whom are very happy to soil the footpaths of Subiaco, literally and figuratively.

  103. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Schoss, I wonder if Lucie still looks in. She had a very big issue with JC and wore herself (and everyone else) out over it. There is no point in doing this. JC is here, he is an institution, and he is the way he is. His own man. If anyone feels they are being ‘pushed’ by JC or Gab, then push back till you have room to breathe. Usually, people antagonistic to each other at the pub learn to keep out of each other’s way and carve themselves out some personal space with like-minded friends. Same here. Sinc provides plenty of room. No need to crowd in on each other. No need for carefully constructed ‘hierarchies’ either. Hierarchies only work if people believe in them; I don’t. I tend to just go on my own merry way. Generally I am a peaceable soul, meandering along through the highways and byways of intellectual and social life; but be warned, this Cat will mock, bite and claw (or cry) if attacked.

    I’m happy here as the day is long, thanks Sinc.

  104. Empire Strikes Back

    Brian – avoid St kilda beach. Festival set-up madness and dog turd central right now.

  105. And when I say nutters, I mean real, genuine, just-released-from-Graylands nutters.

    I’d query that. I suspect most of them have never been near my place of work. What you will find in Fremantle are:

    - a lot of old hippies who have done way too many drugs, and are now facing the physical and psychiatric consequences;
    - our Indigenous brethren from the nearby heavy-on-public-housing suburbs, many of whom show the signs of various problems such as substance abuse and a tendency to public violence;
    - younger and middle-aged ‘alternative lifestylers’ who are in fact not at all mad, but who LOVE to be mistaken for ‘mad people’, and who pride themselves on being completely Out There and Passionate About Things;
    - little old men drunks and derros from the good old days;
    - younger tattooed oafs;
    - ageing lesbians with hennaed hair who like to give public recitals on indigenous instruments from quaint foreign cultures.

    None of these is actually mad, but they can all be quite annoying in their own ways.

  106. JC

    No, I mean I’m not that bothered if people who don’t pay attention when changing lanes get crunched.

    “Can’t say you mind” isn’t the same as saying you “can’t be bothered”. Is that easy enough for you to understand or do require a nap to think it over?

    Tell us if you’re the only person in the country, who has never been caught cutting people off in other lanes. Like never. Stop being silly we all screw up at times.

  107. The other interesting thing about Freo and Subiaco is that they have both starved out their retail sectors with rents that are too high, rates that are too high, parking that is too expensive, etc.

    They are both rapidly becoming ghost towns where one does not wish to linger after dark, and their respective local councils are wetting their pants over the inevitable council aggregations that are coming towards them faster than a charging bull.

    Plus both their markets – often the sole attraction – have seen Better Days.

  108. H B Bear

    Don’t forget the Subi methadone clinic. That certainly adds a bit of … um … colour to the suburb.

  109. Freemantle- Painters and Dockers eco-corporation managers, yachties, doctors’ wives, doctors, people with large grants of taxpayers’ money who wish to model penises in mixed media in the name of Gaia

    Subiaco- Rail Workers eco-corporation managers, old money, doctors’ wives, doctors, people in their 40s who remember when Subiaco was really hip and have longed to live there forever, but are now wishing they hadn’t moved there.

    Yep, wealthy residents.

    FIFY

  110. Don’t forget the Subi methadone clinic. That certainly adds a bit of … um … colour to the suburb.

    I didn’t know they had one. I go past the one in Mosman Park quite a bit, on Stirling Highway – there’s a chemist there who I think handles that trade – but that’s news to me.

    Mosman Park. Now THERE’S an interesting suburb.

  111. JC

    Actually Senile you represent what I really hate the most about Australian drivers. As a general rule they are selfish intolerant dickheads and females are worse offenders. They won’t let you squeeze in, they won’t allow you through and if they do they want to be waved at to demonstrate what humane and charitable drivers they are. If you make an error, they’re all over you like a plague. They really are pricks on the whole.

  112. Oh come on

    Philippa: I got the ‘nutter’ part from a friend of mine who’s a nurse at Freo hospital. You could argue that working there might affect your perspective somewhat. But there are still an awful lot of weirdos in Freo.

    And no, I didn’t forget Wandana, which is indeed an interesting block of flats. Historically, single mothers lived there and I believe that is still the case. Lots of oldies, too. Its residents don’t seem to stick out greatly, even in the east end of the suburb (I am a former Subi resident).

  113. Armadillo

    Corby decision? What the hell is that guy talking about?

  114. Oh come on

    You’re talking about the naltrexone clinic in Subi? Nah, the patients there were as good as gold. I lived in a shared house next to one of the clinic’s ‘halfway houses’. Never had any problems with the guys. They did not have the behaviour commonly associated with heroin addicts due to the nature of the treatment they were receiving.

  115. Steve of Glasshouse

    Victorian drivers JC..Victorian. We get the grey nomads up here every year enjoying life in the fast lane.
    99 in a 100 zone..woo hoo Mabel. Vic license plates should come in flashing neon

  116. Oh come on

    Um….great translator the ABC hired there.

  117. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Bidwell near Mt. Druitt on ABC news – ‘a community where for years people have felt judged’ intones the commentary. HIA and I explode.

    We’re feckin’ judging, he says, looking at the rubbish and dysfunction obvious at a glance.
    I am judging, I say. I used to live in Mt. Druitt. I am judging from the inside as well as at a glance.
    Good on you, Prue Goward, a big shake-up of public housing is being mooted.
    About time someone did some ‘judging’ about lay-about lifestyles.
    Liberty requires that individuals take personal responsibility for themselves and their surroundings.
    That’s my starting point for it.

    Goward’s being given a very hard time of it by da social worker types, says Da Hairy Ape.
    Dey are tryin’ to dig up anything dey can to get at her with it.

  118. Senile Old Guy

    Stop being silly we all screw up at times.

    I know. That doesn’t explain why I should care if people who cause accidents by not paying attention get crunched. (Can I say “care” instead of “mind” or “bothered”?) I’ll let you think about it while I have my nap.

  119. Armadillo

    Parole denied? Parole granted? What a farce.

  120. H B Bear

    Mosman Park. Now THERE’S an interesting suburb.

    Yep $57m mansions at one end, people jumping from vertical slum towers at the other and some State Housing Commission stuff thrown in for good measure. You’d want to make sure you had a good real estate agent before you got the cheque book out there.

    Any rail workers still in Subi would be in their 90s and have no idea where the hell they are. Like any number of Australian suburbs, it has been gentrified to the point of sterility years ago. There is a sweet spot somewhere between the last of the junkies getting priced out and the over-run of BMW X5s where these places are cool.

  121. Oh come on

    The Subi clinic does not dispense methadone.

  122. Steve of Glasshouse

    Armadillo..the press are staking out the justice minister’s digs in Djakarta waiting breathlessly on the Corby decision. Millions of tweets are on hold and FB has increased it’s cloud storage coz we’re all soooo excited.
    Till the next shiny thing..

  123. Armadillo

    Parole granted – at least that’s what they think – maybe.

  124. Grigory M

    Bidwell near Mt. Druitt

    Bidwill, even. Didn’t you come from out that way?

  125. Geriatric Mayfly

    The ABC still slithering and sliming a path through the morass created by these “desperate” illegal immigrants. A new scoop tonight on the 7pm news and a useful distractor from Scott’s ineptitude. Real live film from inside a capsule forced back to Indonesia. Much ado from Brissenden, who was cock-a-hoops about the illegal’s video camera on board, thwarting the Government’s information embargo. Lowered tones of disbelief, as to why a child and pregnant woman should be among them. Footage of dudded illegals angry at us, and not the sharps who took their money. The smugglers should try and revive their business with the slogan, “No Centrelink. No Fee.”

  126. Oh come on

    Mosman Park. Now THERE’S an interesting suburb.

    Not really. Perhaps in terms of its extreme socioeconomic spread. By any other measure of interest, not really, I don’t reckon.

  127. Oh come on

    God I’d forgotten exactly how embarrassing the Corbys were in 2005.

  128. Dan

    Plus both their markets – often the sole attraction – have seen Better Days.

    Subi Market, even ‘back in the day’, left much to be desired. 30 metres of SFA

  129. Senile Old Guy

    Actually Senile you represent what I really hate the most about Australian drivers.

    And now you can tell how I drive from a brief blog comment! You’re amazing.

  130. Tom

    inevitable council aggregations

    WTF, pet?

  131. JimD

    Don’t forget the Subi methadone clinic. That certainly adds a bit of … um … colour to the suburb.

    Philippa Martyr

    #1181261, posted on February 7, 2014 at 7:11 pm
    Well if that’s what ‘progress’ has delivered WA’s gone backwards over the past 50 years.
    Waterfront thuggery and Railway exclusiveness seemingly constituted a more live in able world.

  132. JC

    And now you can tell how I drive from a brief blog comment! You’re amazing.

    Don’t blame me for you sounding like the typical intolerant dick I mentioned.

  133. Makka

    Sky;

    “Former Labor immigration minister Chris Bowen said Mr Morrison would have demanded his resignation ‘if I tried this sort of secrecy’.

    Labor immigration ministers had been upfront about what they were doing in the job, he said.

    ‘We fronted up to the press conferences, we answered the difficult questions and we didn’t hide from the scrutiny as Scott Morrison appears to be devoted to doing,’ he said.

    Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa was unimpressed by the reports Australian authorities had again returned asylum seekers to Indonesian waters.

    ‘We still think that pushing back boats is not the best solution,’ he told reporters.

    However, Mr Morrison says not only will people seeking to come illegally by boat not be settled in Australia, they will not get to Australia under the Abbott government’s policies.

    Meanwhile, Defence Minister David Johnston is pushing for an inquiry into the ABC for ‘besmirching’ the navy’s reputation.

    The public broadcaster has admitted it should have been ‘more precise’ when reporting the claims that asylum seekers were forced by the navy to hold onto hot engine parts, but has so far refused to apologise.

    ‘If ever there was an event that justified a detailed inquiry, some reform, an investigation into the ABC – this event is it,’ Senator Johnston told reporters in Sydney.”

    Seriously, who gives a shit what Marty says and Bowen presided over this deadly MULTI Billion $ massacre for years. Their faux-indignation is an insult to anyone withe even half a brain.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Bidwill, even. Didn’t you come from out that way?

    Yes, I did. I said so, up above.
    7.30 are going to run something on it now. Waiting for it.

  135. Steve of Glasshouse

    Interesting article on antibiotic resistance. Short of some major advances in medicine and pharmacology, things are going to get grim

  136. God I’d forgotten exactly how embarrassing the Corbys were in 2005.

    Favourite Corby quote (from J’appelle’s mum):
    “I’m always so glad to hear the police have locked up my son, otherwise you spend all night dreading the police knock on the door, come to tell me that the car he’s stolen has crashed & he’s been killed”

  137. sdfc

    What you will find in Fremantle are:

    the 2014 AFL premiers.

  138. Steve of Glasshouse

    What you will find in Fremantle are:

    the 2014 AFL premiers.

    They have the hidden advantage of running light because they don’t need mouthguards.

  139. jumpnmcar

    People have many kms to get in their intended lane.
    But no, they think they can shave MegaSeconds of their journey time by staying in the wrong lane and violently swerving in at the last minute.
    Fuck them, they’re the dickheads.
    Typically red hatchbacks with p plates or black BMWs with personalised plates.
    Anyone here fitting that profile, stiff shit, and be considerate.

  140. jumpnmcar

    To reinforce my point, Google ” Why are BMW drivers so ” and see what the rest of the world ask.

  141. Oh come on

    There is no methadone clinic in Subiaco.

  142. To reinforce my point, Google ”Why are BMW drivers so”

    Yet searching with ”Why are EMW drivers so” gets me nothing. Does no-one drive an EMW any more?

  143. Kaboom

    Jump’n, I’m afraid that the personalised plates that you see on black bimmers are all “Chen 01″, “Hng 7″. “Gold”, “Tax-13″ and shit like that.

    I’m not raaaaacist, but to my observation, there is a certain demographic that usually drives a black BMW. No sensible person owns a black automobile more than once in their lives.

  144. JimD

    Any rail workers still in Subi would be in their 90s
    Dum(b)phery Bear.

  145. jumpnmcar

    Kaboom

    No sensible person owns a black automobile more than once in their lives.

    I’d go further by editing this.
    “No sensible person owns a black automobile more than once in their lives.
    Is it a lefty thing? I think it may well be.

  146. Armadillo

    Smith/Price – Clive Palmer sacked 90 staff today from Coolum Resort. No sign of any renovations planned.

  147. Delta A

    I’m happy (and relieved) to state that I have never owned a black automobile.

  148. Armadillo

    Smith/Price

    Bolt/Price – 2GB

  149. Delta A

    In fact, I’ve never owned a car classy enough to be called ‘an automobile’.

  150. jupes

    Is it a lefty thing? I think it may well be.

    Nope. It is not.

  151. james

    Fuck off. Black cars are awesomeness.

  152. Delta A

    That’s $500.00 to the swear jar, James.

  153. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Chapelle’s mum had a point. Nothing is worse than waiting to hear if someone you love has wiped themselves out, when you think it is highly on the cards.

    On Bidwell, 7.30 just ran a longer piece of the same item they showed on the news. A local worker made the correct point that the problem is wider than Bidwell, it is many public housing areas, as we have discussed before on the Cat. They are sinkholes of drugs and psych disorder these days.

    When we lived in public housing out West it was bad, but not everywhere, and the rubbish was less in evidence. The alcohol and rows were awful, just like now. My parents were both psych cases (largely unrecognised in my early childhood) and we were rather unusual in that at the time. Many people worked and so did my father, my mother only sporadically. They also tried hard to not be so crazy, also different to today. They were basically upright and moral people who tried hard, but always failed. My dad moved us to a rented old broken down farmhouse to get away from the public housing situation; but it was no better, and more isolated, which made the mental problems worse. I had to leave, to save myself. Some don’t, and still do well. My siblings had a different history and the damages still show there; my sis has ex’s still in public housing around Bidwell, and my brother is injured and was there too till HIA and I got him out.

    I wanted something more. My story is known here, so I won’t go over it. Goward is making the right moves: people have to help themselves, and there should be some stick to encourage them to it. Half the kids interviewed in that piece will end up using (if they aren’t already) because they lack a pride in themselves and a sense of alternatives. Their presentation shrieks ‘drug culture’ – tatts, and studs, and all of that. Someone should tell them; and role model something else. I had to ‘re-learn’ so much.

    Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I have been there.

  154. Tom

    Forget billionaire. Clive Palmer may not even be a millionaire. In a year or so, he has trashed the Coolum Resort whose workforce has dropped from 650 to 100. According to Hedley Thomas, all of Clive the Clown’s businesses are losing money. Is he related to “Doctor” Geoffrey Edelstein?

  155. Bons

    Different town, same syndrome. When we returned to Oz I was working in Sydney. It was during the housing boom and we could not find a house that was anything better than a tool shed. Wife and kids choose a newly built terrace in Glebe, (close to Sydney Uni). I hated it on sight. My work colleagues considered Glebe to be very very trendy and hip. It was a shit hole; populated by space cadet academics, geriatric hippys, violent young thugs, public housing bludgers, and squatter sleezeballs who, when they ran out of readies, would materialise their innate anti-capitalist ideologies by breaking into our house and pinching anything that could be flogged at the Glebe market the next Saturday. .
    With four cars in the family and me being the last to arrive after work, the garage was full. I would spend an infuriating half hour or so crawling the streets carefully avoiding the pissed Friday evening students looking for a park.
    Then I found it. Two streets nearby – no cars. God loves me! I delightedly explained my find to the woman next door, who was an ex-country pub owner who owned the pub across the street and was pure gold. The blood drained from her face. “YFI don’t you understand that that is a public housing area for transient traditional owners from northern NSW”. Get your car and park it behind the pub.
    Too late – it was burned.
    That was the second experience for me – my car was also burned in beautiful ethnically integrated Lille when I was invited by the local authorities to join an EU diversity celebration on New Year’s Eve.
    I am redneck now and love it.

  156. jumpnmcar

    Lol

    Fuck off. Black cars are awesomeness.

    Maybe in the movies for Mel Gibson and The Hoff but not in real life.
    Arseholes gravitate to black cars.
    Black motorcycles however are a good lead up to red.

  157. Delta A

    Ooh, I fib: we did have one classy car ( two actually, but we’re covering a lot of years here.) My favourite was the early ’60′s Studebaker Lark.

  158. Brian of Moorabbin

    And wasn’t Friday night invented for fish’n’chips?

    yes…. but the 35 minute wait while they serve the 20-odd people in front of me, not so much.

    Festival set-up madness and dog turd central right now.

    ESB, there’s a difference?

  159. H B Bear

    Dum(b)phery Bear.

    Not feeling the love tonight.

    With the median price for a 3 bedroom house in Subiaco being $1,245,000 I image there is plenty of Barnsey’s “Working Class Man” belting out from the Bose stereo as those railway guys pin bone their salmon.

  160. Armadillo

    LOL – Coolum has gone from 650 staff to 100 since Clive took over. A caller points to a 80% reduction and that Newman looks like a raving Socialist cutting the QLD PS when compared to Clive.

  161. Notafan

    Shame on the Navy putting those women and children on an unsinkable boat with lifejackets and a toilet out of the blazing sun when their own fathers knew it was much safer for them to travel on an overcrowded wooden boat without lifejackets or sanitation.

  162. Brian of Moorabbin

    Um….great translator the ABC hired there.

    Did that guy from mandela’s funeral get another gig for the Corbys now?

  163. Kaboom

    My singular foray into black awesome cars was a Jeep Cherokee XJ or whatever way back last century.

    Never again.

  164. Delta A

    Jeep Cherokee phht! Our other autombile of note was a Morris Isis, last of its type to be imported and still used (when we drove it) as a police car in the UK.

  165. jumpnmcar

    One of my mates from Morayfield owns a black BT 50 ute.
    It was white before the theft and burning.

  166. Motelier

    Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black.

    Henry Ford

    If you want to be cool, drive a white car. It makes it easier for the air conditioning to achieve a comfortable temperature. That is basic physics.

    Oh, and white cares may be boring, but on a long trip on the road they seem to strangely cleaner than darker cars.

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Black cars are awesomeness

    Not on a country road of dark bitumen, distorted by heat shimmer and mirage, with a driver attempting to overtake what he/she thinks is a standard semi trailer……..only to find the vehicle is a road train. You want to commit suicide by car, just leave me out of it.

  168. H B Bear

    You can’t help feeling that Clive Palmer is going to have an Alan Bond v Tiny Rowland moment one of these days.

  169. cynical1

    I’d go further by editing this.
    “No sensible person owns a black automobile more than once in their lives.
    Is it a lefty thing? I think it may well be.

    ….

    A lot of black BMW’s seem to be driven by wanna gangster types who financed the
    car and body by selling on their steroids.

    As they say about roid heads : 300lb of muscle with a one inch fuse…

  170. jumpnmcar

    OK it’s time for disclosure.
    I have a * silver ute.
    C’mon fess up peoples, fess up.
    (* grey but a bit shiny )

  171. Delta A

    Dark blue Camry. Very old. But the engine and Borg Warner gearbox from the Isis is buried behind the back retaining wall, awaiting a glorious resurrection… maybe.

  172. Delta A

    …Are buried…dammit.

  173. JC

    Forget billionaire. Clive Palmer may not even be a millionaire. In a year or so, he has trashed the Coolum Resort whose workforce has dropped from 650 to 100. According to Hedley Thomas, all of Clive the Clown’s businesses are losing money. Is he related to “Doctor” Geoffrey Edelstein?

    Tom

    From what I’ve heard, Clive has a water tight with the Chinese they simply can’t get out of. If they walk Clive ends up with an asset on which the Chinese have spent $5 billion on. All his substantial net worth in tied up in that iron ore deposit.

    I think Hedley is wrong on this one.

  174. JC

    First time I’ve ever gone electonic on currency trades is today whereas as I’ve only dealt through voice brokers over the phone. It’s really freaking scary, as you have to be really careful on the amounts and the type of trades.

  175. candy

    I think Clive Palmer is stirring up anti Chinese feelings amongst his followers for reasons of his own. He did call Rupert Murdoch’s wife a Chinese spy, a most amazing bit of defamation he got away with.

  176. Bear Necessities

    Bill Ludwig has been referred to the ACCC regarding his time on the Qld Racing Commission. The enquiry report was particularly scathing saying the QRC was run for the benefit not of racing but for the commission directors own benefit. Didn’t Gillard have her arm raised at the AWU conference by Ludwig? Also wasn’t Shorten once Ludwig’s right hand man?

  177. johanna

    Just hit google on another page, and not only do they have the rainbow motif, but below it is a quote from the Olympic Charter that starts “The practice of sport is a human right.”

    WTF?

    While I acknowledge the chutzpah and savvy of the Olympic movement in gulling billions of dollars out of stupid governments, this is a bridge too far.

  178. Armadillo

    I think Hedley is wrong on this one.

    Headley seemed to be saying that the Chinese reckon they owe him diddly squat. Sounds like it will end up in court. The ironic thing is that Palmer has apparently spent his entire life outspending little blokes in legal fees and driving them to the point of surrender. It appears that Palmer has some pretty bad cash flow problems at the moment. I doubt this Chinese Government owned company has any problems finding as much money as they want to fight this. Clive could well be on the receiving end of his own tactics this time around.

    At least, that’s my understanding of it.

  179. .

    C.L.
    #1180870, posted on February 7, 2014 at 1:21 pm
    As I said here once before, I have no sympathy for highway speedster crybabies who get pinched. If you want higher speed limits, talk to your local MP.

    C.L. is Boob Car?

    My god, did C.L do a BA (Hons) and is he a civil war buff (CWB) (TM)???

  180. james

    The Google rainbow motif makes me want to buy Russian products.

    Go to hell with your preachy pontificating.

    The automatic assumption that everyone in the world is in love with man love just because it is the cause celebre of the idiot white western middle class university monkeys this past decade gets up my nose.

  181. .

    Good on you, Prue Goward, a big shake-up of public housing is being mooted.

    I’ll believe her when she pays back her salary for her made up job – “Exec. Director for the Office of da Status of da Wymmynses!”

    What a total crock of shit. What shame that appointment brought on the Liberal party. This has to be the political equivalent of rooting your “hot” cousin.

  182. .

    james

    Try SR Ware Iorn over Chrome and use Duck Duck Go instead of Google/NSA.

    Anyway, they seem to have gotten rid of it.

  183. Tom

    I think Hedley is wrong on this one.

    Thomas isn’t a business writer who understands the contracts involved. But, even though Palmer has guaranteed wealth through the Townsville refinery business, there’s no doubt he has destroyed the Coolum Resort business, which he ran as a hobby, because he’s just a speculator with zero expertise in tourism.

  184. blogstrop

    Lysander at 4.43 re the repeated gay flavour of comment on Russia’s Winter Olympics.

    Really! Anyone would think there wasn’t a straight person in the entire team!

    The only non-gays in the ABC team appear to be shacked up with ALP types.

  185. blogstrop

    Dot, ask C.L. if Sydney’s full up.

  186. blogstrop

    This has to be the political equivalent of rooting your “hot” cousin.

    I didn’t quite get the connection there, Dot, but if it’s consensual, nice work.

  187. blogstrop

    But, even though Palmer has guaranteed wealth through the Townsville refinery business,

    Tom, I’m please to hear that there’s still wealth in refining something, what with energy costs and all.

  188. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I’ll believe her when she pays back her salary for her made up job – “Exec. Director for the Office of da Status of da Wymmynses!”

    I’d prefer to see someone like Prue Goward getting it than someone like Natasha Stott Despoya.
    Face it, in the current wymynnses era, someone female is going to get da big bikkies freebies.
    Might as well be someone more useful than someone less so.

  189. Leo G

    “I heard on the radio coming home (so it must be true) that there is a fine of $500 being proposed for rude words here in glorious NSW.” – Lizzie

    “… police are by far the single largest group of people against whom bad language is used, it can be argued that the offensive language provisions of street offence legislation are an unwitting tool of institutional conflict… The use of offensive language in circumstances of interventions initiated by police should not normally be occasion for arrest or charge.” – Elisabeth Kirkby 16/11/1993

    So you can hammer that nail freely responding to Sinc’s intervention. Has me wondering though whether the NSW fine increase might be counter-productive.

  190. blogstrop

    Chinese aircraft carrier mockup. Looks a bit far-fetched to me, what do the military expoerts say?

  191. .

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.
    #1181479, posted on February 7, 2014 at 9:48 pm
    I’ll believe her when she pays back her salary for her made up job – “Exec. Director for the Office of da Status of da Wymmynses!”

    I’d prefer to see someone like Prue Goward getting it than someone like Natasha Stott Despoya.
    Face it, in the current wymynnses era, someone female is going to get da big bikkies freebies.
    Might as well be someone more useful than someone less so.

    Howard, Goward, Abbott all deserve a serious arse kicking for even getting involved with that crap. They could have been pragmatic and taken the high road and abolished it.

    I don’t expect lefties to know any better.

  192. Brian of Moorabbin

    blog, meh. It looks ok although i don’t think the Chinese have forward sweptwing fighters (was it the US experimental X-35 that had those?).

    They’d have had more success if they made this their concept…

  193. Armadillo

    Dot, looks like we might have done our dosh on Glasson . However, there has been a few late developments. Smithy seems to be reporting that Terri Butler has been doing a back flip over her comments about ‘Labors proud record on immigration’ apparently due to a community backlash. Sportingbet has had it’s market suspended for a couple of hours (could be good or bad).

    There is also the remote possibility that The Bobster could make his first ever correct prediction (I’m really clutching at straws here now). GO Bobster!

    Or the judge may be a good man, and not regard our flagrant denial of the rights of Muslim children as a significant factor in his legal conclusion, or the anti-Indonesian miniseries on Corby soon to go to air. He may affably let her go, and so help Abbott win Griffiths, or ‘Griffin’, as his nation’s sworn enemy Bishop likes to call it. Though I do not see why he would do that, or why his political masters would not nudge him not to.

    Yes, I’m drunk (as if you hadn’t worked that out already).

  194. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Dot:

    C.L., is Sydney full?

    Nooooo…. I think they are more high than full.

  195. candy

    who are these “political masters” I hear about?

  196. .

    I love how lefties are making hay of Bishop’s gaffe over Griffith but Craig Thomson actually told Parliament in more words than I will use glibly here, that a doppelganger used his (stolen) credit card to fuck hookers.

  197. Eddystone

    These people are lucky to escape injury in this youtube compilation of traffic near (very near) misses!

  198. Tintarella di Luna

    Or do they mean the C-bomb? I would not use that word as above, here, that is for sure.
    Altogether too blushering for me.

    You mean this C-bomb

  199. Armadillo

    who are these “political masters” I hear about?

    I can only assume he’s talking about ‘Marty’ the Indonesian Minister. You could go over to Bob’s and ask him I suppose? It was posted a few hours ago, so he’s probably forgotten.

  200. entropy

    He may affably let her go, and so help Abbott win Griffiths, or ‘Griffin’, as his nation’s sworn enemy Bishop likes to call it.

    That would be Griffith ye olde Bobster. Ironic mistake, or satire, you decide.

  201. Tintarella di Luna


    The practice of sport is a human right.”

    The right to recreation — what a load of crap — they just make this stuff up
    Universal Declaration on Human Rights 10-12-1948
    Article 24.

    Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

    Just an excuse to flich money from taxpayers for the lifestyle choices. I’m not a great fan of what the Olympic movement has become — in fact it’s become one big motion

  202. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Blogstrop:

    Chinese aircraft carrier mockup. Looks a bit far-fetched to me, what do the military expoerts say?

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

    No.

    it’s fan fiction.

    Their next CV is under design at Dalian shipyard. It looks to be a strictly conventional monohull in the 50,000 ton displacement (Washington Treaty standard) class. The major change appears to be the chance that she may have a catapult and not be a STOBAR ship. A simple test module was built possibly as an internal layout mockup and after some time at the yard was plonked into a local park as ‘public art’.

  203. Makka

    Good to see you took my advice Brian ;)

  204. johanna

    Perhaps he is thinking of Gryffindor? (created by J K Rowling in the Harry Potter series).

    Fantasists gotta fantasise.

  205. I think Hedley is wrong on this one.

    For some reason Hedley has been almost crusading against Palmer.
    Now that Palmer’s Galilee mine has been given the go-ahead, there is light at the end of his cash-flow tunnel.
    If it all works out, without anyone being nasty & tipping Palmer upside down first, he’ll likely end up Gina Reinhart-style rich.

  206. Motelier

    Tom,

    While I agree 100% that Crazy Clive is a speculator in the tourism industry, the decline in the Coolum Resort is not just Crazy’s fault.

    The tourism industry is in a lot of trouble now for a variety of reasons. You could say it is almost a “Perfect Storm”.

    Both motels that we operate have some exposure to the general tourism market. One motel that we operate depends on the true tourism industry for about 40% of it’s income, 30% of total income is international and the other 10% of total income is intrastate and interstate and international drive tourism. The 10% of that tourism income is attributed to an Aussie Icon. The other one only relies on the general Queensland driving tourism. That is the people that decide to drive from one place to another and have a one or two night stay on the way.

    The facts of the matter are that people are less inclined today to “put the family in the car and go for a drive to see what is out there” because of a large number of factors. Theperceived high fuel prices are one of the biggest problems. Do you know that most family cars from y2k to today are cheaper to drive per km on the highway than cars built earlier. That said the cars coming will really knock your socks off in terms of fuel economy. (sorry the Motor Mechanic in me had to say that)

    The domestic airlines are in a huge price war at the moment. Adjoined to this is the hire car industry that are in a war. The result for a family of 4 to travel from Brisbane to any reef resort from Mackay to Port Douglas is that it is cheaper to fly and hire than to drive and see Australia.

    International Fly and Drive tourists are absolutely surprised at the condition and standard of our major highways. These tourists travel the world. The fact that the Queensland State Government expects to us to charge 1st world prices is okay. Just give the International Tourists 1st world highways to travel on. We have major highways in this country that are abysmal. I have said this numerous times on many open thread and on topical threads.

    The value of the Aussie Dollar is always going to be there but that is a supply and demand thing so Mrs M and I will just have to suck it up.

    And here is the kicker.

    Every level of government has a hand in the till of my business. Fair enough, we do have to pay our way. However in the last 5 years the expenses on our balance sheet attributed to any government expenditure has increased by 45%. Inflation is currently running at less than 5% easily. Why do Government and semi-government organisations get to dig deeper into my till?

    Small business creates more employment than the likes of “Ford”, “Toyota”, “Holden” or “SPC” yet we receive very little in government incentives.

    And yet “the big business news cycle is about 1 profits, 2 job layoffs,

  207. johanna

    Lead story on ABC new update on TV right now – Corby’s potential release from an Indonesian prison. Cue stories about how awful Indonesian prisons are. This is the most important thing happening in the country today? For this, we are forced to shell our our hard-earned?

    Second story – the awfulness of the government, via the footage of the boat being towed back to Indonesia. Amazing how these desperate people have the ability to produce live footage. One of them complained about the lack of toilet and washing facilities on the lifeboat.

    Third story (very brief) about the 13 year old girl in a religious “marriage”.

    4th stories, the Qld cops charged with rape, and those charged with sticking a taser in a woman’s eye.

    Then to the cricket and weather.

  208. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Haw!

    Thought for the day from a friend:

    Jellyfish have survived for 650,000,000 years despite being both brainless and spineless.

    This is fantastic news for ALP supporters.

  209. Makka

    The invasion of Europe;

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26064697

    “More than 1,100 migrants rescued off Italy in one day”

    “Some 2,000 migrants landed on Italian shores last month, nearly 10 times the number recorded in January 2013.”

  210. jumpnmcar

    On the other hand, that in turn raises a more obvious question: If tree rings are such a reliable guide to temperatures in the 11th century, and the 13th century, and the 16th century, surely they’re also accurate for the 20th century. So why not just do a straight tree-ring graph of the last millennium?

    http://www.steynonline.com/6080/if-a-tree-ring-temperature-falls-in-the-forest
    Yesterday.

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