The Gender Gap

(HT: Glenn Reynolds via CL)

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40 Responses to The Gender Gap

  1. steve

    Who knew?….a female misogynist!

  2. Amfortas

    If feminism didn’t have double standards they would not have any at all.

  3. Badjack

    And when has a bloke ever won an argument with a sheila. If women say they are not gettin a ‘fair suck of Kev’s sauce bottle’ (or is that kev’s chorito) then that’s that. Finito.

  4. “If feminism didn’t have double standards they would not have any at all.”

    I may have that framed… and put up on the wall in the lounge hahaha!

  5. steve

    …………….cue the inevitable victim statement. One, two…….

  6. ChrisPer

    @SeditionaryI
    #1183166, posted on February 9, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    “If feminism didn’t have double standards they would not have any at all.”

    I may have that framed… and put up on the wall in the lounge hahaha!

    As an embroidery sampler! Even get some online third world exploited person to do it!

    Alternatively, use a gas axe – or a gun – to do it in sheet metal.

  7. johanna

    Yup, every survey ever done on the subject confirms that women want part-time work, flexible hours etc when they have children. Nothing wrong with that, but it also means that they are going to earn less and be less promotable.

    Why do the femininazis have such a problem with it?

  8. thefrollickingmole

    Feminism has a “but” all worked out for this…

    “But why is education/vet/soft sciences not paid as well as engineer/doctor/hard sciences”?

    The answer: A cruel plot by the patriarchy!

    The University credential disease is partially to blame, “I spent 6 years at uni doing Feminist studies, so did my dentist (but doing icky things with peoples mouths), we should be paid the same”…

  9. steve

    the reason that women do not have as much money as men when they retire is that men are satisfied with one pair of shoes

  10. Des Deskperson

    According to Ged Kearney on the CPSU website, ‘Women do the same work as men but earn a lower salary (incl. Superannuation, penalty rates, bonuses, overtime, performance payments, etc).’

    Since this appears on a public sector union website, there’s an obvious implication that this judgement applies to public sector work.

    In the ‘ougties, I was involved in a study in an Australian public sector jurisdiction that, in effect, tested this claim.

    We found that while, cumulatively, women employees in the jurisdiction earned less that men, even though they slightly outnumbered men, there was no evidence whatever that women doing the same jobs as men for the same weekly hours and subject to the same performance management and bonus regimes earned less than men.

    The cumulative gap was primarily the result of (a) men tended to predominate in those areas – trades, technical and emergency services – that attracted penalty rates and other benefits, (b) men tended to work more overtime (where it was available), women preferring to look after the kids and (c) men were further along their career paths, and therefore earned higher salaries and had better super, than women because the latter had chosen to have and rear children.

    So the gaps were the result of career and lifestyle choices, underpinned by biology, which the employer had no control over and which a government, unless it was totalitarian, is unlikely to be able to influence.

    I emphasis, of course, that this was the public sector where information on remuneration is usually fairly transparent.

  11. duncanm

    HT AB:

    Feminism is now defined as : ‘I Want!’

  12. .

    Well said Des.

    It does get tiring examining this over and over again, with the same result, whilst the feckless advocates like Ged prattle on with crap.

  13. Much of the “pay gap” debate is largely the result of distorting the data to fit the pre-determined point of view.

    The public service is the largest employer of women and they operate on fixed pay scales, so if there is any discrepancy it is at the employees end, not the employers.

  14. Andrew

    So of course they’re arguing that there’s no enough promotion of wymyn. That’s of course the result of insufficient affirmative action to offset the inherent disadvantage that extra X chromosome brings. Hence we need quotas on boards. And those boards have to insist on AA all the way down.

  15. JohnA

    johanna #1183210, posted on February 9, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    Yup, every survey ever done on the subject confirms that women want part-time work, flexible hours etc when they have children. Nothing wrong with that, but it also means that they are going to earn less and be less promotable.

    Why do the femininazis have such a problem with it?

    Because they believe they have to force women into exercising their freedom to choose high-flying careers. A bit like “destroying the village to save it” I guess.

  16. Lem

    The feminazis make the false wage gender gap claim not because it is true, but to divide and conquer. They hate men, and they think all women should hate men, so they use any claim no matter how false it is. All you are guys are just leering brain dead woman bashing child abusing lazy sods living off the sweat of some woman’s brow. And stopping her from being a lesbian.

  17. DrBeauGan

    Waddya mean, ‘even Obama’? He’s exactly the creep who would peddle this crap.

  18. .

    Carpe Jugulum
    #1183400, posted on February 9, 2014 at 7:52 pm
    On the subject of food, we (the Beautiful Lady Jugulum & I) have enjoyed a carpetbag steak, (a porterhouse stuffed with squid & chilli) served with buttered mushrooms.

    …and I’m stopping her having perfect kids, the perfect husband and a muscular gardener from south america as a male mistress…because they are so culturally sensitive!

  19. slackster

    Feminism in it’s modern form began in the last hundred years, when industrialization moved our economic survival from requiring hard labor to requiring skilled labor. Work used to require hours of physical lifting, now it requires sitting at a desk. This transition made it possible for even the weakest women to work.

    Employees are much easier to manage as interchangeable cogs than as gendered individuals with unique needs. In fact, convincing women to work doubles the size of the work force, allowing employers to half everyone’s wages. It’s simple supply and demand. As the book Revolution From Above chronicles, early feminist movements – even Marxist feminists – were bankrolled by major capitalists in order to increase the workforce and lower wages.

    CapitalismAndTheExploitationOfWomen

    Feminism is a product of capitalism. The “you can have it all” message is an attempt by corporations to swindle women out of their biological needs. If you’re a feminist, you’re a capitalist, because you’ve make work a greater priority than community, children, or love.

    In families, each member is irreplaceable, but in a company everyone is replaceable. In patriarchy, women toiled for one man who loved her and the children he gave her. In capitalism, women work for many men completely indifferent to her and willing to disposes of her the moment cheaper labor appears.

    From here: http://www.returnofkings.com/27852/why-patriarchy-is-the-greatest-social-system-ever-created?ModPagespeed=noscript

  20. .

    In fact, convincing women to work doubles the size of the work force, allowing employers to half everyone’s wages. It’s simple supply and demand.

    No.

    In capitalism, women work for many men completely indifferent to her and willing to disposes of her the moment cheaper labor appears.

    They’re better off even if some of them regret not having kids.

    End of story.

  21. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Why do the femininazis have such a problem with it?

    If women didn’t have children then we could work as hard as men and get paid as much.

    Face it, girls, we need to stop breeding. The kids are holding us back.

    Goodness those feministas are nasty nihilists.

  22. Anon

    If I was a business owner (actually I am) and I could pay women less than a man for the same work then I would only employ women and keep the difference. It is a furphy. In my 25 year plus career I have seen no evidence of different pay because of gender.

  23. Tintarella di Luna

    If feminism didn’t have double standards they would not have any at all.

    And the poster girl for that magnificent observation is none other than the Harridan from Hell – Here’s a little piece that was prepared earlier

  24. coz

    Have you seen any evidence of women doing two jobs, the second job unpaid (homemaker/wife/mother), whereas men do one job?

    Have you seen any evidence of men having a personal groomer, coach and cheerleader (ie wife) whereas women don’t?

  25. Tintarella di Luna

    Have you seen any evidence of men having a personal groomer, coach and cheerleader (ie wife) whereas women don’t?

    coz I believe every working woman should have a wife

  26. Tintarella di Luna

    Goodness those feministas are nasty nihilists.

    You need only look at the ALP Gal Quoda from Emily’s List – a rouguette’s gallery

  27. tomix

    IIRC, Pru Goward was [is?] a spruiker for closing the Gender Gap.

  28. coz

    yuh, I could do it all and be it all, with a wife, but I’m not entitled to one of those umpaid staff. I think we need a definition of ‘work’ here.

  29. Tintarella di Luna

    To be honest I wouldn’t have my Sunbather touch anything in the house, he takes the garbage out, he waters the garden, walks the dogs, does the lawns and the whipper-snipping and collects the daily 5kg of barker berries.

    In fact if I could attach a whippersnipper/lawnmower/dildo to the wheelie bin he’d be pretty nigh redundant. But he buys excellent wine, organises great parties, is a wonderful provider and I love him.

  30. Tintarella di Luna

    and my Italian mamma said to we girls: ragazze, yes play your cards right and you can have it all but not all at once.

  31. HK_Brother

    The cumulative gap was primarily the result of (a) men tended to predominate in those areas – trades, technical and emergency services – that attracted penalty rates and other benefits, (b) men tended to work more overtime (where it was available), women preferring to look after the kids and (c) men were further along their career paths, and therefore earned higher salaries and had better super, than women because the latter had chosen to have and rear children.

    That’s not good enough for Feminists!

    The obvious response to males mainly in trades, technical, and emergency services was the endless nagging until they got gender quotas and nonsensical rules put in to favour females.

    Consequence? You can put in so many rules until the rules themselves become useless and wasteful (costs money to implement them), but it still doesn’t change the fact that women are choosing on their own accord NOT to do certain things that Feminist promote!

    Feminists don’t understand one thing…They don’t treat regular women like individuals of their own free will. Like modern Left leaning sub-groups, they self-appoint themselves as representatives of ALL women. And if regular women don’t follow the Feminist narrative, they are emotionally bullied (online) for being mothers (Feminists view children as a burden, not a blessing) OR males are blamed for it. ie: MISOGYNY!

    Feminists will NEVER give up the wage gap myth because they are part of the modern Victimhood/Grievance Industry. To give it up means no money flowing to them! (Often taxpayer’s money!)…When you think about it, what actual, tangible value do they offer to society or even to a Nation compared to say a female teacher, engineer, etc? No one employs Feminists. They have to form their own political groups to leech off the taxpayer OR stay in academic ivory towers to indoctrinate the young. There is no real value in what they do!

  32. coz

    Would you like some cheese with that?

  33. entropy

    That’s a lot of exclamation marks, HK_Brother.

    ohh!+!

  34. Squirrel

    “The gender wage gap is a myth” – so the Workplace Gender Equality Agency has done its job and can be abolished…….

  35. dover_beach

    This ‘wage gender gap’ lie is propagated through our educational institutions, particularly universities. If you, as they do, argue/assume that gender is socially constructed, then any differences in pay that manifest in the aggregate, whether or not they are cumulative or the result of individual decisions, will reflect, so they think, some sort of social inequality.

  36. PoliticoNT

    As Des Deskperson notes, the only evidence of a gender pay gap is when the figures are manipulated on a cumulative basis. Here’s some other evidence: I entered the work force in 1985 and have worked as a storeman, a bank officer, in the casino industry (cashier, croupier, inspector, shift manager, manager – domestically & overseas), day labourer for a tree lopping company, running cafes, front of house for an art house cinema, and a long stint in the APS.

    Equal pay was mandated in each of the roles, and the only job where I didn’t have female work mates was the labouring job. Different pay due gender is as alien as little green union propagandists from Mars.

  37. Token

    Even Obama spreads this lie and was called out on it:

    Women want to believe they are victims, not have to change their behaviour and have to compete for employment in fields which will ensure they achieve the same income as men.

  38. rickw

    Pay gap? Informal accrual for maternity leave?

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