I wonder what this was about

From Andrew Bolt:

People who airily deny that my free speech (and, by extension, yours) hasn’t been taken away in part by our courts should know that I have again been advised by my lawyers not to comment on a recent publication by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, or even to simply republish the DFAT item without comment.

This is far from the first time. Our laws against free speech are a disgrace. The effect is to allow people – in this case DFAT – to promote a certain point of view on a matter of great moral importance without fear of contradiction.

This post, then, is a bookmark to note where an article should have appeared.

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139 Responses to I wonder what this was about

  1. It is unnecessary to pass laws to fetter free speech, in Queensland, at least.
    If you speak out against Newman’s government in the media, retribution is swift and sure.

  2. oldmiseryguts

    I’m with numbers on this one.

  3. Rebel with cause

    My guess for the article he is referring to is a DFAT commissioned piece from August last year ‘Australian attitudes towards Indonesia’

  4. Leigh Lowe

    I am reliably informed it was a travel advisory for people travelling to Vietnam and/or Toowoomba entitled “Don’t Mention The War“.

  5. Wozzup

    Thank God at least that there is a Liberal government now in power. At least further incursions on freedom of speech might be restricted henthforce. (I am presuming that whatever it is that DFAT has done in this instance does not necessarily have the backing or support of the government or that perhaps what Andrew is referring to are Australia’s laws on defamation – it’s a bit hard to judge given the few clues Andrew has provided).

    One thing for sure, is that no matter how undisciplined, incompetent, corrupt, destructive and wasteful that previous government was (i.e. the rabble, Labor) they were at least all in favour of free speech. But only of course if said “free” speech agreed with their dystopian views of the world and / or resulted in the speaker mouthing unending politically correct waffle. No crime is quite so terrible to a lefty as that of “offending” some obscure group or person or of disagreeing with them on some point of ideology. (Particularly if a group or person is themself disposed towards lefty views or are otherwise a member of a favoured leftist cause.)

  6. Jannie

    I asked myself the same question. Yesterday Sheridan had an article about the Kabuki like pantomime surrounding the House remembrance of Gietzelt. Looks like you need some sort of Kremlinologist to interpret what is occurring. But yeah, what’s it all about?

  7. Walter Plinge

    I posted a reply on Bolt saying I thought the answer would appear on Catallaxy in short order. The post wasn’t published.

  8. Infidel Tiger

    If you speak out against Newman’s government in the media, retribution is swift and sure.

    Campbell Newman is an out of control lunatic. I can only assume he has a micro-penis.

  9. Grigory M

    the Kabuki like pantomime surrounding the House remembrance of Gietzelt

    WTF? There was nothing Kabuki-like about the Gietzelt indulgence motion yesterday, including Pliberserk’s red-faced, wooden reading from a prepared statement. There have been too many incorrect Kabuki references on the Cat in recent times. FFS, has anyone here actually been to the Kabuki theatre?

  10. candy

    I know this post isn’t about Campbell Newman, but he does appear to becoming a bit heavy handed of late.
    Queensland’s economic growth is above all the other states now apparently. It’s puzzling why he’s going down this path and annoying the judiciary when all in all everything is going well for him. Why create problems for himself?

  11. I’ve no problem with him kicking the judiciary as hard as he likes.
    Every decision Campbell Newman made was been extremely sound.

    Then came his first anniversary in office.

  12. Walter Plinge

    It’s puzzling why he’s going down this path and annoying the judiciary when all in all everything is going well for him.

    I guess if he’s annoying the judiciary he’s annoying the leftist elites who know so much better than the little people and who like to govern us from the bench. Sounds good to me.

  13. boy on a bike

    Advisory on kidnapping threats?

    Just about every country involved is Baptist. Or presbetyrian. or something.

  14. Andrew

    Now that Wozzup mentioned leftist causes- anyone know why they love Islam so much? Is it just because they hate the Jooooos, or is there some other affinity?

  15. Ah, according to Numbers’ link, the Australian Lawyers Alliance is backing up the barrister who irked Campbell Newman.

    That alone (having the backing of that group) is sufficent for any sane person to conclude that the barrister is getting what he deserved.

    The Australian Lawyers Alliance…er.. well… how to say this? … Isn’t exactly the most noble institution in the land. The name is fancy, but their real name would be more aptly: “Ambulance Chaser’s Guild of Australia”.

  16. Tardell G

    Nice trolling by the first poster. Has effectively changed the subject.
    Golf clap +

  17. blogstrop

    No BOAB, he did the kidnapping threat story here.

  18. Mique

    I agree with the Velocipede Kid. The advisory was issued just a couple of days ago, and I think Peru was the only country mentioned that wasn’t Baptist or Presbyterian or whatever.

  19. Not to worry Cats, even as we speak Campbell Newman’s brownshirts are proceeding to Number’s location, then we’ll never hear from him again.

    Proving Campbell Newman ain’t all bad!

  20. Grigory M

    Bolt is pathetic. If he thinks he is so principled, he should show some courage like Derryn Hinch does and just publish the stuff and let the chips fall where they may.

  21. iainnahearadh

    Dear 1735099 and your mate, Infidel Tiger,

    Unfortunately for you two, Campbell Newman seems to be keeping the rest of the state happy.
    Not only that, but they gave him a big slap on the back for his efforts.
    Something about an unheard of swing against the ALP, in a safe ALP seat, in a recent by election?
    That they only fell over the line thanks to Green and and bogus Independents says it all.

    Anyway, maybe the reason that most sane people overlook Newman’s heavy handed approach, is because he is doing the job he has been elected for?
    As for the leftist activist SC who bit the hand of those who fed him, yes, the Joys of Private enterprise and Freedom.
    However, this isn’t the first time this leftist activist SC has been smacked and it won’t be the last.

    Suck it up boys, your lunatic leftist tribe lost. Now it’s time for the grown-ups to clean up your mess.
    This includes enforcing or re-enforcing, as is Parliaments won’t, the Law’s that Judges won’t .

  22. nic

    FFS, has anyone here actually been to the Kabuki theatre?

    Last week. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Much better than Noh.

  23. Rabz

    The effect is to allow people – in this case DFAT – to promote a certain point of view on a matter of great moral importance without fear of contradiction.

    What the f*ck are DFAT doing promoting a certain point of view on a matter of great moral importance in the first place?

  24. eb

    Grigory, that’s all very well, but he is a News Ltd employee and must stick to what they advise. It’s their money after all.

  25. Infidel Tiger

    FFS, has anyone here actually been to the Kabuki theatre?

    Is that the one where you put the dollar coins in the slot and the lady takes her clothes off?

  26. J.H.

    I don’t think so Numbers….. A Government should be free to choose who works for it, or in its interests.

    Keim was quite happy being the dissident saviour of Foreign suspected terrorists back when the Bligh Labor State Government was poking sticks at the Howard Federal Government and its Anti Terrorism issues….. So I have no problems with the Newman Government giving him the arse.

    Why run the risk of him sabotaging cases or publicly humiliating the Queensland LNP government at critical and key moments. Fair’s fair. Governments should be able to protect themselves against partisans and their political machinations.

  27. Ignatius

    Any chance it’s the Australian Customs commissioned comic book? Created for immigrants. Shows how evil Australia is. According to leftards.

  28. gabrianga

    Perhaps the “contents” list on his DFAT publication might give a clue?

  29. Ed

    I’m a fan and regular reader of Bolt, but the fact that his lawyers told him not to publish something is not exactly something we can work with.

    It might be the case that he has a legal team who are nervous nellies, or overly restrictive.
    His legal team might dislike him, and be making his life hard.
    They may be too risk averse. They may have gotten it wrong.

    The fact that they advised him not to republish a DFAT release without comment is ludicrous and undermines the whole claim. There is no way that he could get into legal trouble for doing that.

    Anyone who thinks republishing a government press release without comment could bring legal sanction upon him is smoking too much of the hard stuff.

  30. Beertruk

    I think it may refer to this :

    The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trades has issued a new travel alert which lists the following countries as dangerous for Australians. There is a common theme to them:

    Countries where the threat of kidnapping is particularly prevalent, and where DFAT’s travel advisories specifically warn of the threat of kidnapping, include: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Chad, Colombia, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, India, Iraq, Kenya, Libya, Malaysia, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Peru, the Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, Yemen and the Indian Ocean, especially near the coast of Somalia.

    Yes, all but eight of the 33 countries named – Colombia, Congo, Eritrea, India, Kenya, Peru, the Philippines and South Sudan – are members of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, or have official observer status. Eritrea, India, Kenya and the Philippines are threatened by extremists from their substantial Muslim minorities. South Sudan was created recently after a civil war with Muslim northern Sudan.

    (Thanks to reader John.)

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/culture_counts_take_the_kidpnapping_alert/

  31. Paridell

    Andrew no doubt means:

    “deny that my free speech HAS been taken away”,

    not

    “deny that my free speech HASN’T been taken away”.

  32. Bill of Toowoomba

    @ Leigh Lowe, Toowoomba? Please explain.

  33. cohenite

    Maybe numbers can do an expose of the judicial appointments made by the slapper and how she and her fellow Emily Lister, Roxon, interfered in the Slipper and Thomson matters?

    All that happened here is this guy lost a brief; happens everyday.

    And compared with the inroads into the legal process made by the previous federal fuckers it is like a hummingbird turd next to the combined bowel movements of a herd of elephants.

  34. Gordy

    Shhhh…Mordy might be listening.

  35. Alfonso

    Bolta’s a bit of a poseur.

    Had Mordy’s verdict been chased thro to the High Court with News money our Mords would be doing common assaults because that verdict could not stand for a minute in grown up Court.

  36. candy

    Any chance it’s the Australian Customs commissioned comic book? Created for immigrants. Shows how evil Australia is. According to leftards.

    I think Ignatious might be right with that. It could be very sensitive information Immigration Dept doesn’t want Andrew Bolt broadcasting widely an d people making comments on?

  37. blogstrop

    Agreed, Alfonso. It should have been run to ground.

  38. blogstrop

    But the disgrace belongs to those who did the legals.

  39. Louis Hissink

    Listen to Bolt and Price on Monday night 11 Feb – something to do with a bloke called Sheldrick (?), Global Poverty campaign and Gillard is linked into it. Money is going to Africa etc. Hence the DFAT angle.

  40. Chris M

    Sorry to be blunt Andrew but anybody that has to constantly refer to lawyers about what they should say or should not say to this sort of level implies wimpdom. Dhimmitude. Not to mention the daily consorting with bottom feeders aspect must be sickening of itself. Ugh, these human detritus are worse than union thugs.

  41. blogstrop

    Sorry to be blunt Andrew but anybody that has to constantly refer to lawyers about what they should say or should not say to this sort of level implies wimpdom.

    It doesn’t follow.

  42. blogstrop

    The Human Headline can be a one-trick-pony and get jailed, fine. But what Bolt’s saying is that free speech has been knobbled. Why should he go through lawfare because the law is an ass, not to mention some who participate in it in a fairly disgraceful manner?

  43. Paul

    If you go around criticizing your client, that client will lose confidence that you are working in their best interests. The work will quickly dry up.

    Looks like some Queensland Lawyers need a reality check.

  44. Grigory M

    C’mon bloggy, Bolt was a fence-sitter before The Lying Slapper had her rant 2 years ago, and has been well and truly emasculated ever since. What did he say then? “Boo hoo – I thought long and hard about whether to pull the plug – bleat, bleat” (near enough). Hinch may live up to the “Human Headline” tag, but at least he has the courage of his convictions. Bolt does not – he is pathetic.

  45. 2dogs

    I assume you mean this, Louis?

    I can’t see how lawyers would have such a problem with that, so that even mentioning it is verboten.

  46. Ed

    Bolt does not – he is pathetic.

    Oh come on.
    He’s not an activist. He’s a journalist. He provides commentary and that’s what we go to him for. I don’t expect him to knowingly expose himself to legal trouble just to report or comment on the news. It would be awesome if he did (from the public’s perspective) but it’s not something you can expect; his job is to give views and analysis.

  47. Grigory M

    and [Bolt] has been well and truly emasculated ever since

  48. Cato the Elder

    The so-called “Australian Lawyers Alliance” used to be known as “the Australian Plaintiff Lawyers Association”, until they decided that the name gave away too much information about who they really are. They are the worst kind of bottom feeding scum imaginable; and a disgrace to the rest of the profession.

    As for Keim, a client can withdraw a brief at any time, for any reason, or no reason. Client should withdraw in the brief if the client has lost confidence in the barrister. There is no reason why the government should not enjoy the same privileges as any other client, so sad – too bad.

    What really happens to that leftard idiot is that he thought we could kick the government with no payback. Now he knows better. My heart bleeds.

  49. Pedro the Ignorant

    I am another one puzzled about Bolts mysterious reference.

    The Customs comic:
    http://www.news.com.au/national/the-federal-government-uses-a-comic-book-to-stop-the-boats/story-fncynjr2-1226824447746

    It is hardly a target for criticism (except for Tubbsy Milne and that no-talent Kudelka scribbler) much less legal action.

  50. Cato the Elder

    None of which is to excuse Campbell Newman, who appears to have been eating too many of the wrong sort of mushrooms. He was apparently a so-so army officer and engineer; and has been a pretty good politician. His real mistake was to get a former South African as his Attorney General. He really should have got someone with a stronger common-law background, who could have told him to get back in his box when he started stuffing around with freedom of association.

    Unfortunately, the previous Labor government was so unutterably bad that Newman will probably get away with it. We are stuck with a choice between a mostly good government that has wilfully attacked freedom of association, or a bunch of corrupt and utterly incompetent clowns.

    In the past, Queensland has indicated that it will go for the mostly good government, even if it has warts.

    Cést la vie. Things will have to get a lot worse before I would even consider voting for the ALP filth; and have I mentioned lately that the Greens must be utterly destroyed?

  51. Grigory M

    He’s not an activist

    He’s not? What the hell was he saying about those pale-skinned indigenous folk before the court case then? If he really believes in what he says he believes in, then he needs to tell the lawyers to get stuffed and stand up and be counted, the same as Hinch does. I repeat, he is pathetic.

  52. Cato the Elder

    And seriously, who was the supposed humourist who thought of the name “Vicious Lawless Association Disestablishment Act” – “VLAD”?
    Really? Vlad Tepes? Vlad the Impaler? How undergraduate is that?

  53. cohenite

    Easy on Bolt guys; he is a lightening rod for the green filth and the other muck in this great land; some of what he gets is atrocious and his employer has shown a certain reserve in backing him up.

  54. derFRED

    Thanks 2dogs – you can leave a comment at the bottom of the page. *cracks knuckles*

  55. tomix

    he is pathetic.

    Of course he is. He wasn’t saying “Why should any section of the community get preferential treatment from government”, he was saying “These people aren’t black enough to get preferential treatment from government”.

    And he’s still squarking about his right to say dumbarse things.

    Little wonder he’s attracted little support. Some “conservative”

  56. derFRED

    I don’t expect it to survive their moderation, but here ’tis:

    Julia Gillard, in case you were unaware:
    1. Was sacked from the position of Prime Minister because she was completely woeful, and inconceivably worse than her predecessor that she knifed.
    2. Has a history of wasting large sums of money on ill-conceived projects. “oops, other people’s money… never mind”. Billion down the drain due to her incompetence.
    3. Is a lying soviet-style leftist without principle, shame, or honour – and will do anything for power and financial gain.
    4. Cannot open her mouth without lies falling straight out. Do not ask her the time, EVER.
    5. Tried to laugh off her involvement in criminal fraud (currently under Police investigation), by saying “I was young and naive”. At the time she was a law firm Partner in her thirties.
    6. Acted inappropriately regarding purchase of a property – and post-witnessed a specific power of attorney signed by the donor on the other side of the country.
    7. Was sacked by her law firm for doing “off the books” work for her then (married with children) lover, seems not to understand the concept “conflict of interest” whilst doing this work on company time.
    8. Attempted to deflect genuine criticism of her disastrous performance as Prime Minister as “misogyny”.
    9. Unintelligent, but survives on a debauched form of cunning.
    10. Record-holder of Worst Australian Prime Minister.

  57. Cato is being very kind to say this:

    The so-called “Australian Lawyers Alliance” used to be known as “the Australian Plaintiff Lawyers Association”, until they decided that the name gave away too much information about who they really are. They are the worst kind of bottom feeding scum imaginable; and a disgrace to the rest of the profession.

    My opinion of them is nowhere as positive as the one above. They are a blight.

    May posterity overlook that such scum shared a citizenship with mine.

  58. Ed

    If he really believes in what he says he believes in, then he needs to tell the lawyers to get stuffed and stand up and be counted, the same as Hinch does.

    If you believe that, and if you believe that what he’s saying is right… then you should stand up and be counted.
    I’m a big believer in the right to a pseudonym, I think the choice to use one enables public debate,- but one thing that has no moral weight is using a pseudonym to attack a journalist, writing under his real name on controversial topics, for not sticking his personal neck out.

  59. Grigory M

    If you believe that, and if you believe that what he’s saying is right… then you should stand up and be counted.

    “if you believe that what he’s saying is right”. Well, ed – how am I to know if what he is saying is right? What I believe in is irrelevant – I’m not the one saying it, he is. In the circumstances, I don’t believe I need to add anything else.

  60. Ed

    I’m not the one saying it, he is. In the circumstances, I don’t believe I need to add anything else.

    You’re the one who thinks is pathetic unless he engages in activism.
    That sounds a lot like an opinion.

  61. Grigory M

    You’re the one who thinks is pathetic unless he engages in activism.

    I beg to differ, ed. That’s not what I said. Not sure that I would accept anything else as obiter dicta, but I just said he is pathetic because he does not have the courage of his convictions.

  62. Ed

    Look, there’s a difference between grumbling that restrictive legal climate is cramping his journalism, and railing, Hinch-like against the laws of the day.

    His lawyers told him not to publish. But he doesn’t blame the lawyers, he blames the legal environment. That’s a reasonable position to take in the circumstance.

  63. Bolt is doing most of the heavy lifting on the free speech matter. He deserves our unwavering support.
    The sheer weight of effort that is necessitate to ward off the endless attack by the mouth-breathers, desperate to find a “gotcha” or to shut him down, this must be very wearing.

    I take my hat off to the man.

    Nobody has the right to sneer at his efforts until they’ve walked a mile in similar shoes.

  64. Ed

    Bolt is doing most of the heavy lifting on the free speech matter. He deserves our unwavering support.
    The sheer weight of effort that is necessitate to ward off the endless attack by the mouth-breathers, desperate to find a “gotcha” or to shut him down, this must be very wearing.

    I take my hat off to the man.

    Nobody has the right to sneer at his efforts until they’ve walked a mile in similar shoes.

    Yes.

  65. Grigory M

    Ah, ed. Let’s go back a bit. Ever since TLS ranted to his boss, Bolt has been something of a eunuch (bleated at the time that he thought about resigning but didn’t, yada yada). Blames the lawyers, blames anybody but himself while continuing to bleat about how he can’t comment on things. You don’t think Hinch has legal advisors, but is standing by his principles? Spare me. Bolt is, as I said, and I repeat, pathetic. IMO (I’m not humble)

  66. johanna

    Yup, it’s all very well to rail at Bolt for not being prepared to lay his family home on the line “for what he believes in”. It’s pretty straightforward. His employer insists on vetting both his posts and his comments after the Mordy debacle. If he were to try to sneak something through, he would be on his own.

    How many of those who criticise him would (or have) laid their family home and assets on the line for the sake of a blog post?

    The comparison with Hinch does not apply. Hinch has no dependents, no assets and has been bankrupted more than once. It’s not analagous to a bloke with family responsibilities.

  67. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    And he’s still squarking about his right to say dumbarse things.

    ‘First they shut up the dumbarses. And I did nothing, because I was not a dumbarse … ‘

    IT called a leftist. Comedy GOLD!!

  68. JC

    Bolt is doing most of the heavy lifting on the free speech matter.

    Yet you have no real problem supporting Newman’s sordid comment about Corby accepting money to tell her story.

  69. Turtle of WA

    So was Sir Thomas More pathetic? I don’t think so. He was his own lawyer, and he knew how to be silent when it was necessary to be silent.

  70. Grigory M

    So was Sir Thomas More pathetic? I don’t think so. He was his own lawyer, and he knew how to be silent when it was necessary to be silent.

    The “Man for all seasons”? What is the relevance, Turtle?

  71. David

    at least he has the courage of his convictions

    Several of them actually.

    If you are silly enough to disobey a Court Order then you deserve to cop a stint in the pokey.

  72. tomix

    ‘First they shut up the dumbarses. And I did nothing, because I was not a dumbarse … ‘

    Shut up the dunbarses? The dumbarses are our rulers.

  73. Ed

    Ever since TLS ranted to his boss, Bolt has been something of a eunuch

    That is far from the truth.
    Who’s the more effective journalist? Bolt? Or Hinch?
    Okay, maybe that question is unfair to Hinch: he scored big hits for the issue he went to court on, but the personal cost was enormous, and reduced his ability to do journalism in general.

    Bolt does have a tendency to grumble sometimes, but that’s his style. Overall he’s a dynamic force in the journalistic landscape.

  74. Yet you have no real problem supporting Newman’s sordid comment about Corby accepting money to tell her story.

    ??????????? Are you behind on your medication or something JC?
    WTF are you talking about?

  75. Ed

    Bolt learned from the court case. He is more circumspect and chooses his words more carefully. He has sharpened his game in response.

  76. Grigory M

    If you are silly enough to disobey a Court Order then you deserve to cop a stint in the pokey.

    David, how else do you suggest one demonstrates that the law is an ass?

  77. tomix

    Go git them grant- hooverin’ not-so- darkies, Andrew. Skitch em, boy. Oh wait, on second thoughts,…..

  78. duncanm

    Gabrianga may have hit it — though not sure if its recent.

    This page has an albino Aboriginal lass… or something.

  79. duncanm

    sorry… she’s Dutch. Freaky Deaky

  80. David

    GM I do not disagree with your premise that [often, not always] the law is an ass.

    Hinch’s crusade/campaign against paedophiles was laudable but he ignored a direct instruction in a specific case and it is not Hinch’s place to decide which court order he will respect and which he won’t. Given his access to the media he could have run an effective campaign without the martyrdom by putting pressure on the legislators to act on the ability of courts to use blanket suppression orders. In his position he could have mounted a very effective campaign by getting ordinary people to put pressure on government.

  81. Ed

    David, how else do you suggest one demonstrates that the law is an ass?

    Funny you should ask, because Bolt is actually trying to make the point that the law is an ass without landing in the dock.
    He does it by announcing whenever he’s pulled a story because he would have been legally sanctioned.

    Now maybe you’d prefer him to actually stick his head in the lion’s mouth, for your own entertainment perhaps, but that strategy isn’t appealing. He is trying another way.

  82. Grigory M

    Ed, I think Bolt is pathetic and you don’t. There’s not much point in us continuing to say the same thing to each other.

  83. Ed

    Ed, I think Bolt is pathetic and you don’t. There’s not much point in us continuing to say the same thing to each other.

    As I explained above, your whole reasoning for why you think Bolt is ‘pathetic’ was logically flawed.
    You’ve run out of rope and aren’t even defending your position anymore, you’re just asserting it, and taking refuge in “let’s just agree to disagree.”

  84. Ed

    But okay, let’s just agree to disagree.

  85. Major Elvis Newton

    How come Bolt & Prices 2GB show from Monday Feb 10 is missing?

  86. Grigory M

    You’ve run out of rope and aren’t even defending your position anymore, you’re just asserting it, and taking refuge in “let’s just agree to disagree.”

    Fuck no, mate. We can continue with the point and counterpoint – but what is the point? I will just continue to put a different opinion to you, and you will just continue to put a different opinion to me.

  87. 2dogs

    This is a recent DFAT article, and I suspect Bolt may have had an angle on it which News’ lawyers didn’t like.

  88. Jannie

    Well I think Bolt is pretty good, he is prolific and he makes a lot of good points. He IS a conservative, not a libertarian, but he is up front about it, and I prefer his conservatism to authoritarian leftism. There is an old saying, don’t make the Good the enemy of the Perfect.

  89. so fuckin brave

    anonymous posters denounce Bolt as a coward. You pathetic weenies.

    [No sense of irony? Sinc]

  90. Grigory M

    There is an old saying, don’t make the Good the enemy of the Perfect.

    Voltaire, Jannie. He also said “A witty saying proves nothing”.

  91. Michael in Sydney

    2dogs – maybe Oxfam mixed up Papuans with Palestinians?

  92. Gab

    This page has an albino Aboriginal lass… or something.

    Don’t know if it was that specific page, however you are right as he was advised against posting an item relating to Aboriginal identity.

  93. Gab

    Oh dear Lord! You’ve nailed it, deadman.

  94. He’s not? What the hell was he saying about those pale-skinned indigenous folk before the court case then? If he really believes in what he says he believes in, then he needs to tell the lawyers to get stuffed and stand up and be counted, the same as Hinch does. I repeat, he is pathetic.

    No: you’re pathetic for thinking you can dictate what anyone else should do.

  95. Cath

    Richard #1187143, posted on February 12, 2014 at 7:59 pm – give that man a cigar! Saved me the trouble of trawling.

  96. Pedro the Ignorant

    Great sleuthing, Deadman. I also think you have nailed it.

    Time (and Mordy J) may tell.

  97. Great sleuthing

    Richard, at 7:59, first posted the likely candidate.

  98. Pedro the Ignorant

    Ta Deadman, and apologies to Richard. I missed that post.

    Great sleuthing, Richard!

  99. Let’s not forget the special efforts DFAT will apply for indigenous staff:

    A culturally aware workforce
    DFAT actively promotes awareness and understanding of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples, cultures and issues within our own workforce. We provide formal guidance to all staff on correct terminology and protocols, and we provide cultural awareness training.

    Competitive terms and conditions
    In addition to our competitive salaries and conditions of employment, we provide Indigenous employees with an additional three days of paid leave ceremonial purposes (including NAIDOC leave). [
    sic]

  100. Special Measures:

    In support of the Government’s Closing the Gap Strategy: Indigenous Economic Participation Agreement, we are aiming to increase our recruitment of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians.
    All of the department’s advertised vacancies are open to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, and we welcome applications from Indigenous Australians for any of our vacancies. We also specifically recruit Indigenous graduates, cadets and trainees, and occasionally other positions, using the Special Measures provision contained in section 8(1) of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 and sections 4.2 (6)(b)(i) and 4.3 (3)(b)(i) of the Public Service Commissioner’s Directions 1999.
    The Special Measures provision allows for the targeted recruitment of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people by designating particular positions as being open only to Indigenous Australians.
    To be eligible for Special Measures positions an applicant must provide confirmation of their Aboriginality and/or Torres Strait Islander heritage. This is commonly a letter or form obtained from an incorporated Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander organisation such as an Aboriginal Land Council or similar Indigenous community organisation.
    At least one member of every selection committee for Special Measures positions will be an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander employee of DFAT.
    We will also arrange for an Indigenous employee to participate as a member of the selection committee on the request of an Indigenous applicant in any other selection process.

  101. Jannie

    Cultural Awareness Training. I cannot think of a sensible comment. Brain goes out of order.

  102. JohnA

    Jannie #1187566, posted on February 13, 2014 at 3:09 am

    Cultural Awareness Training. I cannot think of a sensible comment. Brain goes out of order.

    Oh, no, not another CAT!

    They should send people here, CATallaxy is a much stronger environment for CAT!

    :-)

  103. A Lurker

    If I am allowed to state the bleeding obvious, going by her looks, that girl looks genetically indigenous to Scotland or Ireland or perhaps the Faroe Islands…

    Nothing of course wrong with that

  104. Alfonso

    News understands there are places the Lib govt doesn’t want much light, this is one of them. Where compliance by looking away is “appreciated”.
    Discrimination against “white Aboriginals” is obviously a huge problem in need of subsidy, grants and discriminatory hiring practices against the rest of the population.

  105. Stan

    Yep, it’s the albinos Sarah and Lara.

  106. candy

    It seems very surprising that A.Bolt would consider putting that DFAT publication up on his site. Just by putting it there, he would be making another statement about his views on that controversial subject.
    I can see no way the lawyers or his employer would allow it to go ahead.

  107. Bruce

    Grigory M wrote:

    “FFS, has anyone here actually been to the Kabuki theatre?”

    Noh!

    But, as I am constantly reminded, “Politics is show-business for ugly people”.

    And many of its practitioners are ugly to the core.

  108. Rabz

    It seems very surprising that A.Bolt would consider putting that DFAT publication up on his site. Just by putting it there, he would be making another statement about his views on that controversial subject.

    He used to (up until very recently) run posts on his blog displaying a similar media release or article that would include a photo of the alleged ‘indigene’ and then writing, “of course, I can’t comment on this”.

    Now it seems that he can’t even put up a page from the DFAT website without it being a thoughtcrime.

    This country is a frigging toilet.

  109. Louis Hissink

    The Bolt Price show for Feb 10 is available here, just scroll down.

  110. Grigory M

    No: you’re pathetic for thinking you can dictate what anyone else should do.

    Abu, I think no such thing. I dictate to no-one. I just express my opinion. Same as you.

  111. rebelwithcause

    Some people are being a bit hard on Bolt. At the end of the day, his job is to help sell Herald Sun newspapers and subscriptions. What News Limited would be asking themselves is, ‘how many extra copies of the paper did this guy help us sell last time he got sued?’. Clearly not enough to make it worthwhile it appears.

  112. MT Isa Miner

    Peter56

    #1187785, posted on February 13, 2014 at 11:00 am

    Close the gap. Too easy. Cut off all black monies, make all welfare under the one umbrella, gaol parents who can’t give their kids breakfast or any meal because all the money is pissed away, make all welfare scrip, and gaol time for those rorting the system, and make our laws applicable to all, with none of this bullshit and racist koori law.
    And stop treating blacks like they are retarded fucking monkeys, who can’t survive without the paternalistic hand of government to suckle them.

    MAAATE. SO Bolt doesn’t go full metal jacket. He does more than most and for the right reasons. Not many will even listen to you much less think about what you are saying. Don’t pull Bolt down. Aim at the right target. Who’s telling us blacks are holy? And why?

    Keep your focus on the real enemy. Why is it shameful to be Christian but if you vote green and “support Aborigines rights” your sins are shrived? Marxists mate. Is Bolt a Marxist? No. We need to band together not push away. There are so few in Australia on the right we can’t frigging afford to fight in the ranks. Not that you cant have a spit. We all need to.

    The lies and the money pissed against the wall in the black industries sickens me too. If people want to feel Christian they should volunteer to help some spastic kids therapy, give his parents a break.Hell will freeze over first.

  113. MT Isa Miner

    Shit, looks like I’m bitching about that bit, Peter56, when I meant that I agreed with you.

  114. Leigh Lowe

    A culturally aware workforce
    DFAT actively promotes awareness and understanding of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples, cultures and issues within our own workforce. We provide formal guidance to all staff on correct terminology and protocols, and we provide cultural awareness training.

    Competitive terms and conditions
    In addition to our competitive salaries and conditions of employment, we provide Indigenous employees with an additional three days of paid leave ceremonial purposes (including NAIDOC leave). [

    Three days walkabout leave?
    Give me a fucking break.
    OK, how about I get St Patrick’s Day off to get pissed (for cultural reasons) and the day after because I am hungover?
    I’ve still got one to go to make three days. I dunno, how about Timmy Watson’s fucking birthday?
    What a crock of shit.
    And competitive terms and conditions?
    How can a Government Department even talk about competition? What they really mean is “generous” using other people’s money.

  115. Simon

    Grigory M is right, Bolt has been hiding behind the lawyers for years now, it’s stopped being a threat reminder and has become more of dog leash. If it stops him from speaking freely he should refrain from “speaking truth to power” and admit he has nothing to say. If it does not stop him speaking freely and earning a quid at it then he should stop whinging. The fact that he has been pushing to repeal laws and statutes publicly does make him an activist, just not one that is willing to risk anything for the cause.

  116. Abu Chowdah

    Abu, I think no such thing. I dictate to no-one. I just express my opinion. Same as you.

    Well then it’s my opinion you shouldn’t pin your hopes on Bolt.

  117. johanna

    I love all these anonymous internet warriors who want Bolt to do what they are not prepared to do.

    A spot of envy, perhaps?

  118. Oh come on

    Yeah Bolt’s such a whiner – he should ostentatiously ignore his (likely employer-provided) legal advice. It’s not like he would be dependent on his income, have a mortgage and expenses related to raising children that he’d be worrying about. Why isn’t he martyring himself for the cause? Gutless, that’s what it is.

  119. Ed

    Yeah Bolt’s such a whiner – he should ostentatiously ignore his (likely employer-provided) legal advice. It’s not like he would be dependent on his income, have a mortgage and expenses related to raising children that he’d be worrying about. Why isn’t he martyring himself for the cause? Gutless, that’s what it is.

    LOL!
    Exactly.

  120. Ed

    Why doesn’t he just ignore legal advice, go the full retard and commit career suicide, all in the name of a good cause. Then he wouldn’t have to wear the ignominy of Grigory M calling him ‘pathetic’ in catallaxy comment threads.

  121. Joe Goodacre

    Unbelievable.

    A white indigenous cadet.

    What a mockery race relations have become in this country.

    Bolt’s point is undeniable – some people ‘choose’ their race.

    It would be ironic if Sarah was actually just a white Australian with anglo heritage, supporting Bolt’s claim that anyone born here is an indigenous Australian. Unfortunately we know it’s not.

  122. Farmer Ted

    1735099.

    I recall when Nick Greiner was elected premier of NSW, somebody asked him if he was going to take on the lawyers.

    His reply was that he would leave that to somebody braver than he was.

    Maybe Campbell Newman is that somebody braver.

    At least he has a workable majority.

  123. .

    Grigory M is right, Bolt has been hiding behind the lawyers for years now,

    More likely they’ve threatened to clap a writ on him.

  124. .

    I recall when Nick Greiner was elected premier of NSW, somebody asked him if he was going to take on the lawyers.

    Were they a crackpot?

    We weren’t over governed back then like we are now. Was this bloke talking about that and not a crackpot and had quite a predictive mind?

  125. Farmer Ted

    After reading the ABC article it seems that Campbell Newman may well be the man “somebody braver”.

    And not before time.

    “The ABC is aware of two legal firms seeking advice on taking such (defamation) action.”

    Legal firms seeking advice? Barbers seeking a haircut?

    Come to me, I’ll fix you up.

  126. The evil right

    Am i the only one who scratches his head at those in here who are calling for bolt to “man up” and stop hiding behind his lawyers? Not one of them are man enough to publish their own details and hide behind pseudonyms themselves?

    Seems like proof stupid people can breed.

  127. Grigory M

    Not one of them are man enough to publish their own details and hide behind pseudonyms themselves

    How ironic. After you, fuckwit.

  128. candy

    Only a single man with no personal commitments and responsibilities can afford to be a martyr.

  129. Jon from the Hills

    Grigory M must be a fun chap to be around in real life.

    “Profanity is the common crutch of the conversational cripple.” – David Keuck

    “When a man uses profanity to support an argument, it indicates that either the man or the argument is weak – probably both” – Unknown

  130. .

    Racism is illegal I thought, so if a white bloke gets in to trouble for saying exactly the same thing as a blackfella, and the blackfella doesn’t, there must be redress.

    No. Under our law, majority groups cannot face discrimination.

  131. Grigory M

    Profanity? WTF are you talking about, Jon? Profanity is the “c” word, which is banned here and which I never use (though I think that Mellors’ use of it in Lady Chatterley’s Lover was in context and quite acceptable). Everything else is just words, you dick.

  132. Ed

    Am i the only one who scratches his head at those in here who are calling for bolt to “man up” and stop hiding behind his lawyers?

    no. see above. Several people have taken on the ‘bolt is a whiner’ whiners.

    Not one of them are man enough to publish their own details and hide behind pseudonyms themselves?

    pseudonyms have a long and illustrious history.
    That doesn’t make anyone immune to the charge of hypocrisy when attacking non-pseudonymous people for lack of personal courage in stating their opinions openly.
    But that’s beside the point. The real point is that he’s a journalist with bills to pay, and he shouldn’t have to, or be expected to, martyr himself to the cause.

  133. jgbnjs

    Quadrant online has answers.

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