The South Australian election is on

Right now I’m watching Jay Weatherill’s campaign launch speech on Sky News:

  • Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree
  • Early intervention for criminals
  • No tolls ever
  • etc. etc. etc

Okay – so what else is he going to say? The South Australian economy is in serious trouble. What is necessary is for the State government to do less and the private economy do more. From the speech it is clear that this is more or less what the Liberals are suggesting. From the speech it is clear that Weatherill is campaigning on an anti-austerity ticket.

To that end the South Australian ALP are rolling out the heavy artillery. This message was sent in an email to all South Australian public servants.

austerity in SA

(HT: P)

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68 Responses to The South Australian election is on

  1. Chris M

    The SA Liberals have never acted as if they were all that keen on winning, they just sit about waiting a few years for the other side to eventually collapse. Realistically the state debt is now so high there are few options available to them anyway so I wouldn’t expect any significant difference whichever side wins, it’s no longer a governance role more a management one.

  2. Mayan

    Billions spent on a new hospital (smaller than the old one and with no space whatsoever for paper records) and a big, flashy building for medical research and medical school.

    Oh, someone forgot the dental school, which sums up SA at the moment. Big, flashy, fancy buildings; tawdry redevelops of malls and squares; festivals, which always seem to block access to the city from the eastern (and solidly Liberal) eastern suburbs; but always forgetting important things, like dental schools, sexual abuse in schools, and adequate funding for the courts.

  3. C.L.

    ■ Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree

    LOL.

  4. jim from qld

    Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree
    Early intervention for criminals

    hmmm, what a very unsubtle way to expand the public service and academia.

    Good thing the fed’s will pick up/subsidise the additional HECS and the union will use the “master’s degree” angle to push for salaries other actual master degree holders in the private sector possess.

    Early intervention for criminals = bottomless spending on youth workers, skate parks, outreach programs with no clear link between $ and results. Easily defended by shrilly shrieking “think of the children.”

    Oh South Australia, why don’t you call yourself Tasmania the 2nd.

  5. John Comnenus

    If history is any guide, Wetherill only needs to get about 47% and the usual ‘marginal seats’ campaign will see him win.

  6. Mayan

    I’m just glad that I’ll be overseas for the last couple of weeks of the election campaign. It’s strange how I tend to leave the country when elections are on …

  7. Ubique

    Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree?

    Why wait until then? Just post them out now as a pre-election gift.

  8. Eyrie

    Visited over Xmas- New year. Bloody nanny state. 50km/h everywhere even on major arterial feeds.
    How about we abolish it. Divvy it up between Victoria, WA and NT

  9. Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree?

    The universities are already doing this, so he’s promising something which will happen anyway, with or without him; unfortunately (if the example here at UTas be any guide), most of the people enrolling in the MTeach or MEd courses will come with almost worthless BAs. Now, if Wetherill promised to restore the value of a bachelor’s degree…

  10. Tom

    “A panel of international experts including Professor John Quiggan (Qld) … will provide a factual account of austerity measures and their consequences …”

    LOL. TAKE 2:

    “A panel of international experts leftist activists including Professor John Quiggan (Qld) … will provide a factual account an Alinskyist misrepresentation of austerity measures and their consequences …”

    John Quiggan wouldn’t know an unreconstructed fact if it jumped up and nipped him on the left ball.

  11. Somerville

    John Comnenus

    #1191303, posted on February 16, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    If history is any guide, Wetherill only needs to get about 47% and the usual ‘marginal seats’ campaign will see him win.

    Yes, Labor’s ‘marginal seats’ campaign will, as usual, be characterised by the ABC and the rest of the media as ‘very effective’ and ‘well targeted’; and it will be just as fraudulent as the previous SA election.

  12. dover_beach

    Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree

    What wankery.

  13. Tom

    If history is any guide, Wetherill only needs to get about 47% and the usual ‘marginal seats’ campaign will see him win.

    Talking about Alinskyism, John C, I would appreciate anything further you could post on the seriously shocking gerrymander by the ECSA in the next month.

  14. H B Bear

    South Australia and Tasmania – Australia’s two economic basket cases finally realize the gig is up. The ALP has run out of excuses.

  15. Mayan

    M. Ed.: please take one – a sign soon to be above toilet roll holders

    Even the quality of engineering masters degrees in Australia (at G8 universities, I should add) has now sunk to the level of self-parody. Without going into detail, I was told by a head of school that the standard of school leavers has sunk so much that the engineering degrees I knew are no more and so masters degrees are barely keeping up with undergraduate engineering as I knew it. Quite apart from that, there is the pervasive use of group work (and I think we all know what a mistake that is) and assessment sometimes descending to the level of only a group presentation with no written work, much less an exam.

    If you have kids, get a job in Singapore for their school education, then send them to a good university which, I think you’ll find, means one not in Australia.

  16. Somerville

    Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree

    That this can presented as some sort of measure of good government is an indication of how far political debate in Australia has declined.

  17. Tom

    For those not acquainted with the blatant vote-rigging by the Electoral Commission of SA on behalf of the Liars Party, Labor in 2010 won 55% of the seats (26 out of 47) with 48.4% of the 2PP vote.

  18. Infidel Tiger

    Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree

    And x-ray vision.

    Early intervention for criminals

    What’s the current policy? Wait until they’ve filled the bank vault with barrels full of bodies and then get involved?

  19. Squirrel

    “No tolls ever” – appealing (if you believe it) until you think that it gets loaded onto rego etc. or the debt.

    The last two paras of the ‘Unmasking Austerity” message are particularly cute, along with “a country with a strong economy, such as Australia….”

  20. Gab

    Early intervention for criminals

    Ah, that explains the daily notes kept on toddlers in childcare and schoolkids by teachers. :roll:

  21. .

    If you have kids, get a job in Singapore for their school education, then send them to a good university which, I think you’ll find, means one not in Australia.

    You’ve been had about Singaporean university students. Dumb lazy and their professors do shit research.

  22. .

    “Unmasking austerity”

    Do these clowns have any recollection of Obama’s failed policy on Zandi’s bullshit forecasts?

  23. Somerville

    Tom

    #1191338, posted on February 16, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    For those not acquainted with the blatant vote-rigging by the Electoral Commission of SA on behalf of the Liars Party, Labor in 2010 won 55% of the seats (26 out of 47) with 48.4% of the 2PP vote.

    It’s a combination of electorate gerrymandering by the ECSA and voter fraud in marginal Labor seats. The vote in these seats never reflects swings against Labor across the other electorates, and the Labor comrades always get re-elected. Very good for Labor, but very questionable to everyone else except the ABC and the rest of the media, and the ECSA.

  24. Andrew

    From memory Sinclair has a rule that we not turn such threads into a bucketing of his friends in academia.

    So noting that, why is it that with the unspeakably abhorrent leftist grubs that infest such gatherings, the “alternatives” to austerity (defined as NOT spending at least 7% more in nominal terms every year than you did the year before, even if the year before you announced a “temporary” stimulus package) usually involve fucking enormous tax increases? How well did the Rudd-Bowen FBT increase go in August? D

  25. Oh come on

    Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree

    Srsly?

    To make this work, they’ve got to do one of the following

    -make M.Eds a lot easier to attain
    -quadruple (or more) the maximum allowable class size and totally replace the standard school configuration and scheduling used currently to make room for the megaclasses
    - be satisfied with a whole lotta kids not going to school or spending a lot less time in classrooms because there aren’t enough teachers

    I really don’t think graduate teachers are the major problem affecting teaching quality. Grads tend to be motivated, innovative and are there for the right reasons. You sometimes have to wince at the stuff many of them write on whiteboards in class, but what do we expect? They were educated by the millstone around the neck of education departments around the country – the late 60s and 70s grads. Yes, the boomer teachers. Mostly female, this group of superannuated card punchers do less than the bare minimum but can’t be fired. They’re permanent!

    And to hear them moan about how hard they work – an end of year secondary school report requires from them a minimum 120 *character* (not word) comment! OMG that might take a few hours on a Saturday afternoon to knock off plus a couple of DOTT windows! It’s a hard life…christ is that the time? 3:02, why am I still here?

  26. Senile Old Guy

    Divvy it up between Victoria, WA and NT</blockquote>

    No thanks, we’ve got enough problems.

  27. Oh come on

    comment per student, of course. They’re rubbish teachers but I don’t reckon even they would need several hours to write a single 120 character report comment.

  28. Ubique

    A requirement for photo ID will destroy Labor’s marginal seat strategy (vote early and often). That’s why the AEC is so opposed to voter ID.

  29. cuckoo

    That message to SA public servants is authorised by someone called ‘Sandy Pitcher’. Definitely not an Adelaide name, at least by the Blair rules.

  30. Fisky

    For those not acquainted with the blatant vote-rigging by the Electoral Commission of SA on behalf of the Liars Party, Labor in 2010 won 55% of the seats (26 out of 47) with 48.4% of the 2PP vote.

    Remember they stole the Victorian/SA elections in 1999-2001 on minority votes through a combination of fraud, lies, and “conservative crossbenchers” backing Labor. This SA election is not over yet: the ALP could easily steal their way back to a hung parliament with only 47% and then bribe (or threaten) the “independents” to support them.

  31. Fisky

    Somebody should go to that seminar and ask Kwiggin if he still thinks there will never be another Liberal government, or if the Liberal Party is going to split into three different parties, etc (these are actual predictions of his!).

  32. Fisky

    A requirement for photo ID will destroy Labor’s marginal seat strategy (vote early and often). That’s why the AEC is so opposed to voter ID.

    Exactly – they should have photo ID as well as cameras and face recognition software at every polling booth. Bit of a $ hit, but there will be no fraud.

    The real threat will be the ALP/AEC trying to do a switcheroo and bring in electronic voting. We must resist that with every fibre of our being.

  33. Somerville

    A requirement for photo ID will destroy Labor’s marginal seat strategy (vote early and often). That’s why the AEC is so opposed to voter ID.

    Very true. The AEC has been Labor’s loyal ally and accomplice.

    The Coalition government doesn’t seem to have the backbone to clean out the AEC and legislate for voter ID.

  34. Fisky

    We can easily justify the costs of cameras, AEC voter ID cards, face recognition software, when that argument comes up. It might cost another $20 million/year, but if it means fewer Labor governments being elected and spending $100 billion on NBN schemes, then the cost is surely worth it.

  35. Eddystone

    The Liberals have been hopeless over the years, and certainly haven’t promoted a free-enterprise, small government message.

    Prior to the last election, I was doing some agitating over gun confiscations that SAPOL had been quietly carrying out. I wrote to all politicians, as did a few others, and it was enough for the Shadow Police Minister to ring me and try to hose down the issue, as he obviously wanted it to go away.

    The thing that struck me was his complete lack of interest in the underlying issue of over-reaching police powers and the consequent loss of liberty. He was much more concerned about the fabulous multi-hundred million dollar Adelaide Oval money pit, which he was confident would deliver government to the Libs.

    I expect the Libs will get in, and that nothing much will change. Except that the full weight of Public Service propaganda will swing into action against them.

    SA is a beautiful place, the people are great, yet politically it’s a basket case.

  36. Mayan

    The only hope for SA is to legalise marijuana and use its reputation for hydroponics.

  37. Demosthenes

    Every new teacher by 2020 to have a master’s degree

    Craziness. They’re mimicking the Nords, but are doing so badly. Masters degrees are just a consequence of the very high status teachers have in the countries at the top of the list, not the cause. High pay, high standards (for teachers, not students), high prestige – it all adds up to the best teaching around.

    The best thing State governments can do is rapidly increase the pay of teachers, get rid of all bureaucratic interference in teaching content and methods, and let the incentives play out.

  38. Fred Lenin

    There is one thing cor certainboth S.A and Tassie will end up with greennational laboral governments ,If there is a change Tweedle Dee will take over from Tweedle Dumber little will change as the failed lawyers and teachers stumble along virtually un aware of their total incompetence and unsuitability for any Job at all ,Bye the way Singapore has one lawyer in its cabinet ,and no teachers or uion aparatchiks could that be why they are doing better than us?

  39. Oh come on

    AEC voting ID is not a good idea – rolling that out would cost a fortune and would almost certainly be an Australia Card Trojan horse. Within 5 years it’ll have become a national ID card.

    I don’t understand why polling stations don’t access the electoral roll using terminals linked to a national dstabase. Crossing names off paper lists is just ridiculous. The only thing that surprises me is that voter fraud isn’t more common in Australia, given the non-existent systems the AEC has in place to prevent it.

  40. Oh come on

    Singapore is not really a country, in spite of its legal status. It’s a very well-run company owned and managed by the Lee family. That’s why oxymorons like ‘competitive state sector’ and ‘competent government’ exist only in Singapore.

  41. Fisky

    Then make Voter ID an option for those who don’t have drivers’ licenses or passports, so the Labor Party can’t complain about “voter disenfranchisement”. But it absolutely has to occur to stamp out election fraud. 16,000 people voted twice or more in 2010. That probably got Labor over the line.

  42. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Who’d want the job of selling the party of Wee Willie Manboobs the Alleged and his Syphylitic Scunners to any electorate?

    Even one infested with as many inbred welfare-dependent sister-shagging droolers (and that’s just parliament) as is SA?

    Cripes. I’d rather juggle live Humboldt squid in a laundromat.

  43. Somerville

    AEC voting ID is not a good idea – rolling that out would cost a fortune and would almost certainly be an Australia Card Trojan horse. Within 5 years it’ll have become a national ID card.

    What total garbage. Almost everyone has some form of photo ID or other ID that could be used. It would not be expensive to require voters to present some form of ID.

  44. .

    Simple, just use our other ID cards and so on and link it up in real time.

  45. Chris M

    Eddystone:

    The Liberals have been hopeless over the years, and certainly haven’t promoted a free-enterprise, small government message….. I expect the Libs will get in, and that nothing much will change. Except that the full weight of Public Service propaganda will swing into action against them.

    Totally agree. And here is an article to back up our opinions: “PUBLIC sector job cuts would not exceed 5170 under a state Liberal Government, Opposition Leader Steven Marshall has announced. Mr Marshall today set this figure as the ‘upper limit’ of job losses….”

    Pathetic bunch. Almost rather have the true Labor socialists, these Liberals are NOT conservatives.

  46. Dan

    Isn’t Don Dunstan the guy that poured himself into a pair of hot pants and bravely waded into the waters of Glenelg to single handedly repel a tidal wave that some lunatic astrologer/psychic predicted would wipe out Adelaide?

    I remember the prediction was whipped into such a frenzy that even all the wogs sold their beachfront homes. It takes a lot for Italians to sell off assets.

  47. I have to admit I voted against the Australia Card when we had the referendum way back when, but I think the issue has now changed. Our Democracy is being subverted by the Public Service, especially the AEC, the ABC, and others. I am totally fed up with welfare corruption and the Social Services inability/refusal to deal with it.
    It’s time to bring the Australia Card back formally – it seems it’s here by stealth anyway. With biometrics such as DNA. And access by the person concerned so they can make sure there are no errors.

  48. Dan

    What’s wrong with dipping a voters index finger in ink?

  49. Oh come on

    What total garbage. Almost everyone has some form of photo ID or other ID that could be used. It would not be expensive to require voters to present some form of ID.

    Oh ffs. Read what I wrote again, dummy. Nowhere did I say I objected to having to present a document commonly used for ID purposes.

  50. Helen

    These blokes rabbiting on about what happened in Qld, Well what happened in the NT state election was a plane load of disgruntled unions hacks (78 of them) were flown in to hit the phones a couple of weeks or ten days before, and they told everyone a CLP Government meant they would loose their jobs. We lost a lot of votes because of it.

    Watch out for same tactic in SA and Tas.

  51. Kingsley

    Once we have issued everybody with a masters degree from the local factory, sorry university and it has become meaningless what new qualification do we use? I suggest “legend”. “Hi I’m Roger and I am a legend of education”, or maybe a hero. “Hi I’m Summer and I’m a hero of social work.”

  52. Somerville

    Oh ffs. Read what I wrote again, dummy. Nowhere did I say I objected to having to present a document commonly used for ID purposes.

    OK. I did mis-read your comment. Sorry.

  53. Oh come on

    The People’s Committee of the capital of the communist country I used to live in decided that, within 5 years, all Committee members must have attained a PhD qualification. The policy was scrapped when it became evident most of the Committee members were going to buy their PhD from one of the low ranking unis around town.

    The government of that country was interesting. Dumb as shit they were, with a penchant for taking the most ridiculous brainfarts their dimbulb legislators could excrete and sticking these into the legal code, or at least proposing to do so. However, when they realised one of these brainfart policies was failing (or would fail) miserably, they’d generally drop the proposal or repeal the law. Which makes them a lot smarter than the ALP, which prefers to double down on its policy failures.

  54. Oh come on

    No probs, Somerville! I retract ‘dummy’. And a good day to you, sir.

  55. Bons

    No tolls ever.
    I returned to SA for a funeral recently. I was picked-up at the airport by my sister (she gained the family property – we shall not go there).
    I commented on the extraordinary quality of the motorway between Adelaide and Gawler (inclusive of lit separate bike paths) and asked why it was there.
    “For the wheat trucks; we can’t use rail because it only extends to Inner Harbor for wide gauge rail, but Gillard’s bureaucrats insisted that the connection to Outer Harbor be standard gauge”.
    I realised that I had been teleported into the 19th century. Kept my mouth shut for four days and silently communed with Mr Darcy.

  56. nerblnob

    Pray tell, poster Bons, were there any actual bikes on these bike paths? I’ve recently been in a Scandinavian country and counted a total of five persons using the bike paths between airport and city and around industrial areas, despite the crisp and clear winter weather. My driver was fuming about the jams caused by the former dual carriageway becoming single to accommodate these wastes of space. Jams meaning more engines running longer emitting more … emissions.

  57. nerblnob

    I didn’t mean to derail the thread with my last observation so I’ll just say that there is no such thing as “austerity” in Australian government and there hasn’t been since WW2, if even then. To see pampered academics and politicians flying around the place to ruminate and cogitate (audibly and publicly, unfortunately) about “austerity” must strike even their supporters as a bit bizarre.

  58. .

    “For the wheat trucks; we can’t use rail because it only extends to Inner Harbor for wide gauge rail, but Gillard’s bureaucrats insisted that the connection to Outer Harbor be standard gauge”.

    Good to see we beat those centralist bastards in those Federation debates eh? I’m so glad that NSW stayed out of WWII.

  59. Leigh Lowe

    Visited over Xmas- New year. Bloody nanny state. 50km/h everywhere even on major arterial feeds.
    How about we abolish it. Divvy it up between Victoria, WA and NT

    OK.
    I bags the Coonawarra in the name of Victoria.
    The rest the sandgropers can have.

  60. Robert O.

    Why would you need a masters degree as a basic teaching degree? The difference between good and not so good teachers is in their ability to impart knowledge and engender an interest in the students to learn. I realise that universities have become degree factories and academic standards have slipped somewhat; I remember a friend, a lecturer in mathematics, who said that some engineering students were having trouble with normal university mathematics so they introduced a watered-down version for them. He just hoped that their bridges didn’t collapse etc. as a consequence. One concept of an university is to train its graduates to think which is becoming more difficult nowadays because of the reliance on computer programmes. Take the global warming predictions based on computer models which have failed, and yet the pundits are still trying to explain anomalies such as the freezing weather that has occurred these past few winters. Forget about the models and think about why should a gas, carbon dioxide which is the basis for life itself, and in concentrations of 400 ppm, have such an influence on the weather, when in fact, the weather is controlled by the re-distribution of solar energy from the tropics to the rest of the globe aided by the water cycle.

  61. squawkbox

    Taking someone with a master’s degree in, for example mathematics, and making his lifetime work teaching 7-year olds multiplication tables seems cruel and unusual punishment to me.

  62. Oh come on

    I bags the Coonawarra in the name of Victoria.
    The rest the sandgropers can have.

    We-ell sorry but we’ve already got a green light to turn SA into the largest open-cut mine on the planet, and that terra rossa you’re so keen on is worth more to us as ore than terroir. And since Gina’s bought the whole place, you don’t have much of a look in. But we’ll let you have the tailings if you’d like…? Perhaps you’d like us to dump them over Geelong. Keep Victoria beautiful.

  63. entropy

    I am starting to get quite tired of creeping credentialism. The credential has a short shelf life and only really helps the person get their first job. From then on it is how good they are.

  64. .

    That shouldn’t be the case with higher degrees, or a ticketed tradesman.

    But alas, these days it is.

  65. Mike of Marion

    Oh come on,

    Are you are croweater?

    Mike

  66. incoherent rambler

    A requirement for photo ID will destroy Labor’s marginal seat strategy (vote early and often). That’s why the AEC is so opposed to voter ID.

    Indelible dye on the thumb is a cheap way to solve part of the problem.
    That just leaves the problem of pre-polls(get rid of them) and postal votes.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Is there a “Cats in Barrels” party running in the SA election?

  68. Oh come on

    Mike

    I wouldn’t be much of a croweater if I was (half) joking about turning SA into a giant open cut mine!

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