Q&A Forum: February 17, 2014

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377 Responses to Q&A Forum: February 17, 2014

  1. Megan

    Tonight is particularly dire. Let James have the floor. Pleeeeaaaasssseee.

  2. hzhousewife

    So what’s the standard been like tonight, folks? Don’t give me any spoilers….the WA edition will start in 2 hrs and 15 minutes.

    IMHO worth it, higher standard than last year, quite a few topics covered and very clear knockdown
    of the idiots for all to see. And you get to meet Prof James Allen from Canada ” sigh” he’s nuclear !

  3. goatjam

    Snowcone – “Greg Combet, ex minister, is now working to help the Australian car industry”

    LOL

    So maybe ABC/Fairfax can blame him for the current fiasco?

  4. Infidel Tiger

    I could but the wife and kid would start a riot. 9.30 it has to be.

    Yeah, I had to miss the first 30 mins watching In The Night Garden. I feel like I’m stoned.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    It’s a bizarre reality that “big oil” is incredibly sensitive to the shrieking of greentards about the evils of “big oil” so they employ these dingbats to come out in the media and try and demonstrate what a bunch of planet loving hippies they really are if only we would give them the chance.

    Futile.
    You cannot sate that beast, so don’t admit Trojan Horses through your gates.
    I work for a mining services company and some wet-behind-the-ears dickhead piped up in a risk review that he thought our major risk was the “reputational risk of doing business with dirty coal”.
    FFS!
    I told said dickhead that he should give us 60 names to be sacked immediately if we were out of that business.
    He simply didn’t get it but what surprised me was that other older heads didn’t give him a spray.

  6. Armadillo

    James Allen hasn’t been allowed a comment for ages.

  7. OzGrandPooba

    Does anyone know if James Allan has a regular blog or writing habit??

  8. Oh come on

    ooh it sounds like this one’s a feisty session!

  9. calli

    James Allen hasn’t been allowed a comment for ages.

    No. He’s been in thrall to the most boring people in the universe. That’s how intellect is worn down.

  10. Mindfree

    Ridout, like many so-called business lobby groups who took the side of Krudd/Dullard, pin her progressive colours to their mast and is now looking pretty stupid being on the wrong side. FYI, the Planning Institute and the Australaan Property Institute have the same progressive opinions. At least the API has backed off the term Global Warming but still bangs on about green energy related buildings and the associated ratings

  11. GC

    Snowcone – “Greg Combet, ex minister, is now working to help the Australian car industry”

    And I thought he was just enjoying trips to Paris and slipping one to the talking head on the taxpayers dime

  12. Megan

    Berk’s total message for the night “We did fantastic things when we were the government. So there.”

  13. Nic

    Burke continues the lamearse “why cant the police just investigate this alleged union corruption?” meme

    If it’s such a good idea why didn’t Labor do it ?

  14. hzhousewife

    Tonight is particularly dire. Let James have the floor. Pleeeeaaaasssseee.

    See i just lurve watching the doofuses dig their own graves……
    here goes James again :)

  15. Megan

    I’m a little bit in love with James.

  16. Lysander

    Is it just me or are Cat comments at an all time low? Does that show a wearying trend toward qanda? Or does it show climate change?

  17. Infidel Tiger

    Ridout looks like she just had a lemon juice douche after Allan gave her a whacking.

  18. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Yeah, I had to miss the first 30 mins watching In The Night Garden. I feel like I’m stoned.

    Give yourself an uppercut, IT. That’s just wrong!

  19. hzhousewife

    Burke continues the lamearse “why cant the police just investigate this alleged union corruption?” meme

    Burke knows the Police are thoroughly unionsed and will never ever investgate unions

  20. Turtle of WA

    Does anyone know if James Allan has a regular blog or writing habit??

    He has a book coming out soon.

  21. Leigh Lowe

    Boeing makes wingtips in Aus?

    Remain calm.
    Don’t panic and insist on flying Airbus because Boeing has some Australian componentry.
    They are only wingtip rakes.
    Like a spoiler on a Hyundai Getz. Doesn’t do much and doesn’t matter if it falls off.
    .

    No gov money involved.

    Government Affairs guy at Boeing is up for an arse-kicking at 8:01 tomorrow.

  22. Leo G

    Only sustainable jobs should be sustained?

  23. Ed

    Tony Burke telegraphing Labor’s focus group line moving into the future on industrial relations
    I don’t want a low wage economy.
    I’m proud that people get paid a decent wage.
    etc….

  24. Ripper

    I could but the wife and kid would start a riot. 9.30 it has to be.

    I am watching it online as my favorite wife refuses point blank to watch it.

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/join-the-discussion.htm

  25. Infidel Tiger

    I think we know why that guy doesn’t have a job. I’m just thankful he doesn’t have an assault rifle.

  26. hzhousewife

    water piped down from the North meme

    peeps think because the map is orientated North on top and South below, that the water
    will run down from to to bottom!!! evidence of a fantastic education system

  27. Cold-Hands

    a rather creepy resemblance between Ridout and TLS

    Ridout is more like Barbie Bryce- she’s just as vacuous.

  28. Ed

    Heather Ridout giving Joe Hockey budget advice.
    “Don’t cut training, Joe.”
    Isn’t she supposed to avoid doing stuff like that?

  29. Oh come on

    How old’s yours, IT? Mine’s 3 and a half. She adored In The Night Garden up until just before her 3rd birthday…and then suddenly she declared that she hated it. She even lost interest in the shop-soiled Iggle Piggle doll that I bought from the ABC Shop for $30 (it was the last one they had…and they gave me a 10% discount. Gee, thanks).

  30. Ed

    water piped down from the North meme

    I like that meme. Bring it on.

  31. Motelier

    I love sellouts response, everything is underfunded (in a round about way) /sarcoff.

  32. egg_

    Ridout, like many so-called business lobby groups who took the side of Krudd/Dullard, pin her progressive colours to their mast and is now looking pretty stupid being on the wrong side.

    Correctamundo.
    Sold her soul.

  33. goatjam

    I’m a little bit in love with James.

    I feel the same about Janet Albrechtson. Except for the “little bit” part of course.

  34. Megan

    Is it just me or are Cat comments at an all time low? Does that show a wearying trend toward qanda? Or does it show climate change?

    What? I’m going as fast as I can given how often I drop off when the Boring Voices are on. Which is six to one at the moment.

  35. OzGrandPooba

    Questioner wants to know who will promise to build dams and nuclear plants- Tony Burke wants jobs for the future- yep- all Liar Party jobs are in the forever in the future…

  36. Armadillo

    FMD – does anyone recognise that bloke? Was it Heather Riddouts son? What a setup.

  37. GC

    Heather Redout ….. A poor woman’s Judith Sloan

  38. calli

    Lysander, it’s like pushing shit uphill…in a wheelbarrow with a flat tyre. These people are so boring they make Tony N’s repartee scintillating.

  39. Leigh Lowe

    Berk’s total message for the night “We did fantastic things when we were the government. So there.”

    Did he mention that they passed 968 kilograms of legislation which is a record.

  40. Infidel Tiger

    That Turkey necked, hollow headed Ridout has twice tonight come out against skilled migration.

    Xenophobic bitch.

  41. Oh come on

    And yes, if you were into psychedelic drugs, you’d probably find In The Night Garden to be mesmerising viewing.

  42. Motelier

    Carpe,,

    A future employee for you. On high scaffolds.

  43. egg_

    A future employee for you. On high scaffolds.

    Missed out on KRudd’s HIS?

  44. Motelier

    These people are so boring they make Tony N’s repartee scintillating.

    Hmmmmmmm try Grigory M for scintiallating repartee.

    Oh, on second thought.

  45. goatjam

    “And yes, if you were into psychedelic drugs, you’d probably find In The Night Garden to be mesmerising viewing.”

    If you listen carefully, they say “goodnight concubines” at the end of In The Night Garden.

  46. Infidel Tiger

    How old’s yours, IT?

    Almost 2.

    Thomas The Tank Engine is more his speed.

  47. nilk, Iron Bogan

    LOL, Mote.

    Moving on.

    Aspirational fellow with several disabilities can’t find a job. He’s restricted to desk jobs, and wants to know what the government is going to do re: providing support.

  48. Shelley

    Heather Redout ….. A poor woman’s Judith Sloan

    Wash your mouth out! Not even in the same ballpark.

  49. Cold-Hands

    Christine Lagarde on Thursady. Count me out…

  50. Shelley

    We get to do it all again on Thursday…

  51. calli

    Oh the relief! It’s over!

    Struth…another one on Thursday night…this time with the tanned one from the IMF.

  52. nilk, Iron Bogan

    Abetz points out that money from the government is from fellow Australians. Not the answer the questioner was looking for, I guess.

  53. Megan

    Missed contributing to the end…computer spat the dummy and would not load The Cat. Had to switch to the iPad…it seems to be awake,

  54. nilk, Iron Bogan

    What a shame – I have a meeting to go to on thurs, so I won’t be around.

  55. Motelier

    Oh dear,

    We have a second QandA on Thursday night.

    I doooonnnnoooooottt thinnnkk I cannnn takkkeee itttt Caaaapitttaaaann

  56. Cold-Hands

    Abetz given the last word. Snowcone is losing his touch.

  57. Oh come on

    I find the new Thomas the Tank Engine to be rather annoying. What’s all this Really Useful Engine bollocks?

    The worst one is Daniel Tiger’s Neighbourhood. I would happily drown Daniel in his bath if I had the chance.

  58. 2dogs

    Well, Burke & the ALP got beaten all around the park during that episode. Allan was a excellent, but the real surprise was even Ridout landed a few good hits on Burke. Even the youff wasn’t that bad.

  59. johanna

    Yep, looks like the changing wind is hitting the goolies of even hardened lefties like Snowcone. He asked at least two questions that any competent journalist would ask tonight.

    Unthinkable a couple of years ago.

  60. goatjam

    “We have a second QandA on Thursday night.”

    Maybe the ABC beancounters have noticed snowcones immense salary and have decided they better get their moneys worth . .

  61. Leigh Lowe

    Christine Lagarde on Thursady. Count me out…

    Fuck!
    The sock drawer is in total disarray and Thursday is my only free night.

  62. Infidel Tiger

    I’d have Peppa Pig turned into bacon.

    Absolute bollocks. Kids programming is shite.

  63. twostix

    Thomas The Tank Engine is more his speed.

    Move him on to Wind in the Willows soon. I know, it sounds weak, but the one where Toad steals a car, evades the police, crashes it, escapes from gaol and goes on the lam is the best inoculation against big government statism ever.

    Then the one where a group of private individuals band together and take back Toad Hall from the Weasles using violence in the cause of righteousness and the defense of private property will have your kid fist pumping and organising sticks in no time.

  64. Nic

    Christine Lagarde on Thursday

    I’d love a question that asks “Madam Largarde, you are French non? So, who are you rooting?”

  65. Megan

    Christine Le Tanned on Thursday night or an evening game of tennis? Choices, choices,

  66. JC

    I saw a little of it. That Canadian UQ dude is really fucking good value. He’s absolutely fearless and he frightened the shit out of that phony Heather Hideout. (Lord she’s a despicable creature).

  67. Infidel Tiger

    Move him on to Wind in the Willows soon. I know, it sounds weak, but the one where Toad steals a car, evades the police, crashes it, escapes from gaol and goes on the lam is the best inoculation against big government statism ever.

    My favourite book as a kiddie.

  68. Ed

    Move him on to Wind in the Willows soon.

    Mine wasn’t ready for Wind in The Willows until he was 8.

  69. johanna

    Leigh Lowe – I have just remembered that it is ages since I cleaned out behind the fridge. Thursday night is looking good for it.

  70. Vicki

    What a delight for once to hear someone (James Allan) putting our economic settings into a global context. So glad to see him at the forefront of political analysis, and am looking forward to “The Decline of Democracy” in April. Like Nick Cater, he is fearless in confronting the sacred cows (shibboleths & females alike!) of the Left.

  71. Megan

    I still love Wind in the Willows. Beats Berk and Sellout hands down.

  72. egg_

    Christine Lagarde on Thursady. Count me out…

    Another Quentin Crisp lookalike?

  73. Leigh Lowe

    Well, Burke & the ALP got beaten all around the park during that episode. Allan was a excellent, but the real surprise was even Ridout landed a few good hits on Burke. Even the youff wasn’t that bad.

    Simple arithmetic.
    Her term expires around the time of the next election, which the Coalition is very short odds to win.
    She thinks a little bending in the wind will save her comfortable RBA post after ten years of treachery.

  74. calli

    My little fellas love Fanboy and Chum Chum…yes, I am a subversive granny.

  75. Grigory M

    Hmmmmmmm try Grigory M for scintiallating repartee.

    Oh, I dunno, Mot. I thought your opening”Fuck off” on the old Forum was pretty good.

  76. Motelier

    Hmmmmm Thursday night,

    At the other motel, should I watch QandA with Ms Le Tan or chat up Mrs M?

    You do know that answer don’t you.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    I saw a little of it. That Canadian UQ dude is really fucking good value. He’s absolutely fearless and he frightened the shit out of that phony Heather Hideout. (Lord she’s a despicable creature).

    The Canuck flogged that wrinkly old bag harder than an Indian cleaning his washing in the Ganges.

  78. JC

    Ridout looks like she just had a lemon juice douche after Allan gave her a whacking.

    Wasn’t it great. At one stage I thought the useless zombie was putting up a white flag until I noticed it was the jacket she was wearing. Our currency is safe with her on the RBA board.

  79. Nic

    Wind in the willows reminds me of the Labor/Green alliance, a rat , a moll and a toad

  80. goatjam

    “Burke knows the Police are thoroughly unionsed and will never ever investgate unions”

    It’s more than that. He knows that police can’t compel people to give evidence. When Shorten and Ludwig decide to shut things down there is not a lot the cops can do.

  81. Leigh Lowe

    Hmmmmmmm try Grigory M for scintiallating repartee.

    “I did a joke last Wednesday week …. no-one laughed …. you’re all arseholes”

  82. twostix

    What’s all this Really Useful Engine bollocks?

    It’s soft fascism is what it is. “Work is freedom, only Really Useful Engines are worthy of life” my boys grew tired of it all. The Peter Rabbit series is good, particularly where the ones where they escape from Mr McGregor.

    Thunderbirds is also good but is internationalist UN propoganda.

  83. egg_

    “Madam Largarde, you are French non? So, who are you not rooting?”

    FTFY.

  84. Megan

    Night all, thanks for the company on our trip through the dark tunnels of the ABC.

  85. min

    Feisty show Abetz and Allen came out on top. IMO asking for ‘vision’ for the country is useless like a mission statement but what we want to know is how it’s going to be achieved which was what Abetz gave, howeverBurke gave the usual fairy floss .

  86. Motelier

    Grigory M (<—— see I am trying to be polite.)

    I feel so flattered that you have to follow me around.

    Be a good boy, put on the onsie, grab a cup of hot milo and go to bed.

    Thanks though for following me.

  87. JC

    The Canuck flogged that wrinkly old bag harder than an Indian cleaning his washing in the Ganges.

    LOl.. He really had it in for her and the moronic muzzo chick trying to pass herself off as Miss Average. He wasn’t going home this evening without a piece of Hideout’s flesh.

    I hope Joe Hockey does the right thing and fires the zombie from the board.

  88. Ed

    What’s all this Really Useful Engine bollocks?

    It’s great. It teaches them the following values:
    work hard
    help others when others need help
    respect the Fat Controller

    Boys love it; the social world is completely ordered and follows simple, easy to understand rules.

  89. Nic

    Q and A is like watching ice dancing, so wrong, but every now and then there’s a decent flash of something

  90. Grigory M

    Don’t get too excited, Mot. You gave me a mention, so I thought it only fair to return the compliment.

  91. Infidel Tiger

    It’s soft fascism is what it is. “Work is freedom, only Really Useful Engines are worthy of life” my boys grew tired of it all. The Peter Rabbit series is good, particularly where the ones where they escape from Mr McGregor.

    Not sure if the sprog has picked up on these subversive themes yet. At the moment he just likes smashing them together and leaving them all over the house.

  92. calli

    Q and A is like watching ice dancing, so wrong, but every now and then there’s a decent flash of something

    Blood spatter when the jaw meets the ice?

  93. twostix

    Mine wasn’t ready for Wind in The Willows until he was 8.

    The books are a little heavy duty but the old stop-motion shows are good value.

    A bit of green leftism in them if you can believe it with plenty of lamenting of the new industrial age. One episode was dedicated to the evil “steam traction engine” monsters building a bridge or something. Completely toothless now, my boys loved the idea of the “monster” steam tractors. Probably not the response the author was hoping for.

  94. Nic

    Boys love it; the social world is completely ordered and follows simple, easy to understand rules.

    They leave out the shunting though

  95. Docket62

    “The Canuck flogged that wrinkly old bag harder than an Indian cleaning his washing in the Ganges.”

    I laughed until I stopped. That is gold.

  96. Nic

    Q and A is like watching ice dancing, so wrong, but every now and then there’s a decent flash of something

    Blood spatter when the jaw meets the ice?

    Erm, more snatches of excellence Calli

  97. Rob

    WTF are jobs for the future? Surely, that’s looking at it arse about, isn’t the real question what are the business opportunities that exist now and into the future?

  98. Armadillo

    I see a pattern going on here. The skilled oversea’s guy coming home, the bloke out of a job doing his TAFE re-training thingy, the disability guy wanting a job. What has Labor been trying to push all last week at press conferences? We are concerned about JOBS for Australians (not an Asian face amongst the last three questioners). What will Labor be pushing tomorrow? JOBS. Face plant Liberals – you walked straight into that fucking bullshit. You got setup. What did you expect? Seriously?

    James Allen got closed down halfway through. Snowcone had everyone lined up to finish it up. Look for this message from Labor from tomorrow (and all this week) – JOBS, JOBS and JOBS.

    The ABC hate your guts Liberals. They are firmly on the side of Labor. They will not change. How many times do they have to give you blokes ‘the bird’ before you realise that?

    ABC and assorted Labor entities tomorrow – JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. Blind Freddy can see it coming.

  99. Motelier

    Don’t get too excited, Mot. You gave me a mention, so I thought it only fair to return the compliment.

    I am not excited. Just disgusted that you would use me to attack someone on the Cat.

    You are just like TonyN

    Unflushable.

  100. 2dogs

    Great article in The Australian last year by James Allan.

  101. calli

    On female roles in Thomas the Tank Engine:

    While the child was enthralled, her mother was dismayed.

    It’s always refreshing to see documented proof that a toddler is more intelligent than her mother.

  102. Motelier

    The ABC hate your guts Liberals.

    To paraphrase Rabs.

    Shut. It. Down.

    SACK. THEM. ALL……My capitols.

  103. goatjam

    “ABC and assorted Labor entities tomorrow – JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. Blind Freddy can see it coming.”

    Indeed. In fact they even forecasted that unemployment would go up before the election. It’s still all the LNP’s fault of course.

  104. twostix

    work hard
    help others when others need help
    respect the Fat Controller

    With the guidance of a parent the message is good,” be useful”, great stuff my boys loved it and I used it to the maximal extent. But a straight up reading of the authors message is a little weird. E.g I’m sure there’s one story of an engine who revolts and so is literally imprisoned behind a brick wall. As in, he stages a protest and refuses to move. So the controller builds brick walls around him so he can’t ever move until his “attitude” to doing as he’s told by the controller improves. Finally his spirit is crushed and he capitulates and then is “rewarded” with freedom. It’s a little weird and stinks of contemporary UK culture.

  105. goatjam

    “All great children’s stories are by authoritarian conservatives:”

    Good grief. I used to love Enid Blyton, what does that make me?

  106. egg_

    “ABC and assorted Labor entities tomorrow – JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. Blind Freddy can see it coming.”

    Yup, there’s always a narrative of several leftard memes each week.

  107. CatAttack

    Let’s have a Q & A with James, Nick Cater, Janet albrectsonn and Brendan O Neill against Bill Shorten. I’d pay to see that.

  108. calli

    “All great children’s stories are by authoritarian conservatives:”

    “For children are innocent and love justice, while most of us are wicked and naturally prefer mercy.”
    ― G.K. Chesterton

  109. twostix

    Good grief. I used to love Enid Blyton, what does that make me?

    Noddy: A young male sleeping in the same bed as an old unmarried man? WTF it’s 1950′s gay porn.

  110. Oh come on

    This Really Useful Engine nonsenwoodchipper5innovation. Cheesy.

    The most infuriating is Daniel Tiger’s Neighbourhood. Every episode has some preachy moral that they make into a ditty which kindy age kids are supposed to internalise and use the next time they’re, say, tied up by home invaders and forced to watch their pets fed through a woodchipper. ‘If you’re feeling psychologically traumatised, just sing a crappy little song like this – you’ll feel much better’

  111. Oh come on

    Hrm. How did that happen. Damn dumbphone.

  112. goatjam

    “Noddy: A young male sleeping in the same bed as an old unmarried man? WTF it’s 1950′s gay porn.”

    Well, to be fair I was more into The Faraway Tree. I guess that is why I was a stoner during my “young and stupid” phase right?

  113. Oh come on

    Swallows and Amazons. My Dad read that to me when I was a littlun. Going to read it to mine when she’s five or 6.

  114. Ed

    I’m sure there’s one story of an engine who revolts and so is literally imprisoned behind a brick wall.

    Yes, but that’s not a “Thomas story” as such. It’s just an anecdote that’s told in one of the stories (and briefly shown in the episode in question)
    Even so, I found it to be a bit shocking. It’s actually a horror story if you think about it too hard. But apart from lots of threats to send them to the scrap yard, it’s the only one that’s that extreme.

  115. Oh come on

    Gosh, that Spectator article is insightful. Stupid fascist children like to see baddies punished! Whereas when they grow up and become effete socialists, they realise that baddies need to be understood. And who’s to say what is ‘bad’ and what is ‘good’, anyway?

    Yeah, stupid children and their simple conservative perspectives.

  116. JohnA

    johanna #1193016, posted on February 17, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    Ridout won’t say what should have been done to “save” the car industry (which she supports). What we need to do is move forward.

    Didn’t say something like, umm, “driving investment in new directions”, did she?

  117. Oh come on

    dear lord that Irish lass who got first bite of the cherry is in the running for the most longwinded, boring question asked this year.

  118. Squirrel

    Missed Q&A (tomorrow is another day…), but was most interested to see Tim Wilson on Lateline.

  119. Oh come on

    James Allen = best Q&A guest ever. Perfect mix of razor sharp arguments and a barely disguised contempt for the idiots who disagree with him – and the show in general. Great stuff.

  120. Combine Dave

    Swallows and Amazons. My Dad read that to me when I was a littlun. Going to read it to mine when she’s five or 6.

    Wait until she’s 16 please…

  121. Combine Dave

    I see a pattern going on here. The skilled oversea’s guy coming home, the bloke out of a job doing his TAFE re-training thingy, the disability guy wanting a job. What has Labor been trying to push all last week at press conferences? We are concerned about JOBS for Australians (not an Asian face amongst the last three questioners). What will Labor be pushing tomorrow? JOBS. Face plant Liberals – you walked straight into that fucking bullshit. You got setup. What did you expect? Seriously?

    That’s a good quick way to remove Labor’s ABC (Australian Born Chinese) supporters seduced during the short reign of mandarin speaking Krudders at the helm.

    The best thing the Libs could do is to ramp up the skilled migration and associated FDI benefits rather playing me tooism over immigration (polling suggests Libs are way out on front of this issue anyway) while blasting the unions/Lab with a RC over union corruption.

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