Albo on Qantas: oh dear

 

 

220px-Anthony_AlbaneseI have a few friends who actually rate Albo – at least, they rate Albo ahead of Shorten.

This assessment seems to ignore the series of absolutely catastrophic government policies for which he had carriage while he was minister for transport and infrastructure, policies which were always very favourable to his union mates.  To name a few:

  1. The ‘reform’ of coastal shipping to effectively eliminate cabotage and impose other restrictions, in order to push up the obscene pay and conditions of MUA members – note this is a union shop, not a closed shop;
  2. The federal takeover of heavy truck regulation – an absolute disaster with the Heavy Vehicle National Law supposedly in place earlier this month;
  3. The Road Safety Remuneration Tribunal, which is just a union racket to ensure that mums and dads can’t undercut the featherbedded and OTT paid truck-drivers employed by the big companies, who all do deals with the TWU;
  4. A series of very strange infrastructure decisions, including giving the go-ahead to projects known to fail cost-benefit tests.  The Moorebank intermodal project, for example, should never have been given the nod as there was perfectly good private sector proposal in the offing which did not require taxpayer funds.
  5. All the while, Albo was appointing Labor mates to the governance arrangements – yes, stop that guffawing, everyone – of these projects. (Bruce Baird, chairman of the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator Board????, Kerry Schott, Chair, Moorebank Intermodal).

And now we have Albo’s laughable and extraordinarily weak performance when it comes to Qantas.

No, Labor couldn’t possible support the scrapping of the Qantas Sale Act.  Does anyone want a Flying Panda or a Flying Camel?  Really, Albo, you can do better than this display of xenophobia.

You would have to amend the Air Navigation Act 1922, says Albo.  So what?  Just get on and do it.  And by the way, Virgin has already structured itself to get around this arcane statute.

The real reason is that Albo is opposed the rescinding of the Qantas Sale Act is that he is doing the bidding of his union masters.  With the clause that states that the majority of maintenance and the like must be undertaken in Australia, it is really a racket to protect union jobs.  (Note that all Virgin’s heavy maintenance is undertaken offshore.)

The unions also realise that a new foreign owner would not be the soft touch that Qantas, at least Qantas of yesteryear, has been.

You really wonder whether Labor and the unions would rather Qantas fail than to concede on ownership and accept more reasonable wages and conditions.  Just as Justice Higgins was happy to see the BHP mine close nearly a century ago, rather than allow pay rates to be adjusted downwards, the tradition lives on.

SOLIDARITY FOREVER … IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT QUEUE.

As for Albo having hidden talents, all I can say is that he hiding them very well under his unionised bushel.

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93 Responses to Albo on Qantas: oh dear

  1. Johno

    Does anyone want a Flying Panda or a Flying Camel?

    RACIST

    Sorry. My mistake. It would be racist, but it was said by a Lefty, therefore it can’t be racists.

  2. johanna

    I have a few friends who actually rate Albo – at least, they rate Albo ahead of Shorten.

    I think it’s called “damning with faint praise” Judith.

  3. PEB

    It is Therapeutic Albo we are talking about. Says a lot really.

  4. Fisky

    No, Labor couldn’t possible support the scrapping of the Qantas Sale Act. Does anyone want a Flying Panda or a Flying Camel? Really, Albo, you can do better than this display of xenophobia.

    Disgusting racism and pandering to xenophobia. Albanese must be arrested and imprisoned for breaching the Racial Discrimination Act.

  5. Carpe Jugulum

    The real reason is that Albo is opposed the rescinding of the Qantas Sale Act is that he is doing the bidding of his union masters

    .

    Everyone of the alp apprachiks is the puppet of the unions. Albosleazy will do as he is told by the unions.

    The last time he had an independant thought was when he decided he should crap his nappy as a toddler.

  6. Alfonso

    All true, nothing it seems can prevent either the Singapore or UAE ‘government’ eventually being the de facto owner of Qantas. Just a transfer 0f State ownership really.
    Tragically however, the populace in a fit of bogan xenophobia may well prevent China Airlines and hence the People’s Republic govt owning Qantas.

  7. Tom

    You really wonder whether Labor and the unions would rather Qantas fail than to concede on ownership and accept more reasonable wages and conditions.

    IT is right. Abbott simply has to stand back and let the deranged union greedheads and their parliamentary bumboys to destroy unionised manufacturing employment in this country. Painful to watch, but for the best in the long term.

    Then a new generation can be employed making products at rates the real world is prepared to pay. The fantasy world of union-big business hegemony, EBAs and Australian centralised wage-fixing is ending.

    Poor Albo isn’t very bright. He’s just one of the plodders and foot soldiers following the Labor movement to oblivion because it feels right and his mum would be proud.

  8. Greg James

    Perhaps Joyce could give him a Rub and Tug, and then Qantas and the Labor Luvvies could all then be able to get on with things.

  9. Leigh Lowe

    No, Labor couldn’t possible support the scrapping of the Qantas Sale Act. Does anyone want a Flying Panda or a Flying Camel? Really, Albo, you can do better than this display of xenophobia.

    The whole foreign ownership question is a smokescreen.
    Albo doesn’t give a fuck if it becomes the flying gerbil.
    This is all about the provisions of the Qantas Sale Act which protect the bloated jobs of AWU, ALAEA and AIPA members.

  10. steve

    I have a few friends who actually rate Albo – at least, they rate Albo ahead of Shorten.

    I have fruit bats that fly over my house every night that I rate ahead of Shorten

  11. jumpnmcar

    The real reason is that Albo is opposed the rescinding of the Qantas Sale Act is that he is doing the bidding of his union masters

    A neighbour , MUA rep, refers to Albo as ” the goose that laid a golden egg “.

  12. Andrew

    And what’s wrong with a flying camel anyhow? Kaboobie was highly effective (but for the occasional annoying interjections) – is there any historical evidence of a flying kangaroo achieving superior outcomes?

  13. Carpe Jugulum

    I have fruit bats that fly over my house every night that I rate ahead of Shorten

    I had a pelican crap on my car once and i rate that deposit above tits pieman.

  14. Toiling Mass

    Raaaacism?!!?

    The Bolta case is instructive here.

    I am going to ‘identify as’ Chinese and launch an action unders s18C of the RDA on the grounds that I am offended.

    I think tradition requires 8 others to ‘Identify as’ Chinese, or something.

  15. David

    I had a pelican crap on my car once

    How long did it take to dig the car out of the pile CJ? Lovely birds but they seem to crap twice their body mass in one movement.

    As for Albanese – the less said about the little grub the better.

  16. David

    Tragically however, the populace in a fit of bogan xenophobia may well prevent China Airlines and hence the People’s Republic govt owning Qantas

    Don’t know how often or if ever you have flown with one of China’s airlines Alfonso. I have, because of a lack of choice there, flown with one of them on ten different times on ADB projects and never again.

    On the last occasion it was to board a QANTAS flight in Shanghai and I was never so glad as to see that big white jumping rat on the tail of the plane. The flight attendant [female] got a huge surprise when I gave her a hug and said thank you.

    Anyone but the bloody Chinese and I don’t care who calls me a racist.

  17. Ronaldo

    Bruce Baird??

    A LINO, and probably more of a mate to Albo than many of his Labor colleagues.

  18. johanna

    probably more of a mate to Albo than many of his Labor colleagues.

    … which wouldn’t be hard, given that even though the membership wanted Albo to be Leader, his parliamentary pals overruled them and put Moobs in the job.

  19. Alfonso

    “Don’t know how often or if ever you have flown with one of China’s airlines Alfonso”

    Sigh ….just another racist looking for an excuse for the Chinese Govt not to own Qantas.

  20. MT Isa Miner

    Toiling Mass

    #1208808, posted on March 1, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    Raaaacism?!!?

    The Bolta case is instructive here.

    I am going to ‘identify as’ Chinese and launch an action unders s18C of the RDA on the grounds that I am offended.

    I think tradition requires 8 others to ‘Identify as’ Chinese, or something.

    I’m in, Mass. We’ve been eating bloody rice instead of wheat for the last month to be healthy so I figure I am “transitioning” to Chinese like Prince Phillip said. I’m reckon I’m like a pre-operative trannie- you know living the lifestyle to show I’m serious about my mental confusion about whether I’m chinese or not.

    But I’m shovel litigation ready, mate.

  21. johanna

    Mt Isa Miner – but do you feel like a lost chopstick in the Chinese restaurant of life?

  22. lem

    No mention by Albo of Flying Thai, though…..

  23. jupes

    Does anyone want a Flying Panda or a Flying Camel?

    Qantas is the dhimmi to the Flying Camel already.

    The partnership agreement includes a clause that there will be no pork served on Qantas flights:

    The decision, made out of respect for Islamic beliefs, follows the new partnership between Qantas and Emirates that came into effect on March 31.

    FMD

  24. lem

    A series of very strange infrastructure decisions

    You forgot to mention Albo’s micromanaging in his own electorate to assist local business women in their redevelopment planning paperwork (cough) which was the apparently the official reason given to ALP head kickers for visiting a local illegal brothel. And you can print that because Michael Smith has the polaroids.

  25. JMH

    I do not want to EVER see another Federal Union-controlled Government in what remains of my lifetime. Ever.

    I can only hope the coming RC has a decent set of teeth that rips apart, grinds up and spits out this Union filth and associated appendages.

    The damage done to this country over decades but moreso within the past 6 years may never be repaired. In my lifetime.

    The Unions and Labor disgust me beyond words. Polite ones, anyway.

  26. lem

    I do not want to EVER see another Federal Union-controlled Government in what remains of my lifetime. Ever.

    In slightly off topic news, Bill Ludwig has been referred to ASIC.
    The Australian, just now:
    “TEN former Racing Queensland (RQ) board members have been referred to the corporate watchdog following an inquiry into the management of the industry.

    Attorney-General Jarrod Bleijie said on Saturday that it would be up to the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) to decide whether further action is taken.

    The move comes less than a month after the Queensland Racing Commission of Inquiry delivered its findings to the government and made scathing findings about the conduct of former RQ chairman Bob Bentley and former RQ board member Bill Ludwig.

    Commissioner Margaret White recommended Mr Bentley and Mr Ludwig be referred to ASIC.

    A key allegation is that the men may have breached their duties by failing to resolve a deal between RQ and gambling giant Tattsbet.

    That issue is currently before the Supreme Court in Brisbane, with RQ alleging it’s owed up to $130 million by Tattsbet in access fees paid by corporate bookies.

    Justice White also recommended eight other racing identities be referred to the watchdog for investigation.

    They are former RQ board members Tony Hanmer, Bob Lette, Brad Ryan, Wayne Milner, and Kerry Watson and former RQ executives Sharna Reid, Malcolm Tuttle and Paul Brennan.

    Lawyers for Mr Bentley, Mr Ludwig, Mr Hanmer and Mr Milner last week released a four-page response to the inquiry’s findings.

    They claim the $3 million inquiry failed to investigate a number of significant management issues and the government “conveniently cut off” the terms of reference for the inquiry in April last year.

    They say the Queensland attorney-general’s description of Racing Queensland pre April 2012 as “the dark days of racing” shows an unbalanced reading of the commission’s 488-page report.

    The response states that “wild accusations” about millions and millions of dollars being spent by Racing Queensland on certain projects had not been substantiated.”

  27. Carpe Jugulum

    How long did it take to dig the car out of the pile CJ? Lovely birds but they seem to crap twice their body mass in one movement.

    You’re telling me, my first thought was that someone had thrown a can of white paint on the car.

    But even that was not as much shyte as albosleazy sprouts. (and that is some serious crap)

  28. Carpe Jugulum

    I do not want to EVER see another Federal Union-controlled Government in what remains of my lifetime. Ever.

    Amen

    Bill Ludwig has been referred to ASIC.

    About fvking time.

  29. H B Bear

    Albasleazy has always done the unions’ bidding from Day 1.

    There are trained seals at Sea World that exercise a higher level of independent thought than Albo.

  30. Leigh Lowe

    Bill Ludwig has been referred to ASIC.

    Oooooh …. and won’t he get a wet lettuce thrashing from Medcraft, the dickwad who runs ASIC

  31. Carpe Jugulum

    There are trained seals at Sea World that exercise a higher level of independent thought than Albo.

    aaahahahahahahahahhaha

  32. johanna

    Leigh, that’s assuming that Medcraft will be in the country at the time. He spends an inordinate amount of time travelling around the world, staying in hotels appropriate to his status, attending conferences and meeting with other regulators to compare airlines and hotels keep up to date with cutting edge regulation.

  33. David

    I’m with you Jupes. Bloody toadying hypocrites.

    They weren’t so careful about kosher stuff for us “Joos”. You have to pre-order it’s not a matter of always available.

    Mind you a rasher or two of flat nosed mutton is alright with your eggs.

    Still probably doesn’t matter I won’t fly through Dubai or the other UAE holes for obvious reasons. There are other “One World” airlines that don’t go near them.

  34. johanna

    Indeed, David, as discussed elsewhere. Did Jews ever demand that pork should be banned for everyone? Imagine the outcry if they had.

    That alone tells us a lot about the quality of Qantas management.

  35. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh, that’s assuming that Medcraft will be in the country at the time. He spends an inordinate amount of time travelling around the world, staying in hotels appropriate to his status, attending conferences and meeting with other regulators to compare airlines and hotels keep up to date with cutting edge regulation.

    Our paths crossed briefly in the early ’80′s.
    He was a dour, humourless (but egotistical) weathervane even then.
    I see no evidence he has changed.
    His performance over the DJS share trading debacle was … how can I put this …… weak as piss.

  36. Bons

    and won’t he get a wet lettuce thrashing from Medcraft, the dickwad who runs ASIC
    You must understand that the role of ASIC is to give ambitious but less talented lawyers an opportunity to make a name for themselves by nailing a major company for a ‘mouse droppings’ breach.

  37. Tel

    Tragically however, the populace in a fit of bogan xenophobia may well prevent China Airlines and hence the People’s Republic govt owning Qantas.

    We know the Chinese Communist Party always operates in Australia’s best interest… we know it because of how Australians regularly participate in Chinese elections and all that. Only a raaaacist would think otherwise.

  38. Alfonso

    Indeed Tel.
    For an economic Libert there is only money and its free and unfettered use, there is no culture.
    The Chinese ability to inject massive capital into Qantas is the no brainer winning argument……a few racists aside.

  39. Tel

    The Chinese ability to inject massive capital into Qantas is the no brainer winning argument

    Not the recapitalisation argument again ?!?

    On what basis does Qantas need more capital? On what basis is Australian capital not good enough? What makes you think Chinese investors are more stupid than other investors?

  40. Craig Mc

    He might be happier if it was called Yellow Velvet Airlines.

  41. Beertruk

    Alfonso
    #1208840, posted on March 1, 2014 at 4:42 pm
    “Don’t know how often or if ever you have flown with one of China’s airlines Alfonso”

    Sigh ….just another racist looking for an excuse for the Chinese Govt not to own Qantas.

    Racist card played because you are out of height, out of speed and out of ideas, Alfonso. I wouldn’t fly China Airlines either.

  42. Alfonso

    Phew Tel…..Qantas craves easy no brainer capital to pay the existing union determined wage rates for essentially unskilled counter / res / labourer staff . Thought that was obvious.

    Big Drug money would be ideal for QF…… where the return doesn’t matter, just its tax treatment.

  43. nic

    During the last election, Albo outlined policy regarding the operation of Sydney airport. At no stage did the media outline the fact that his electorate lies under the main flightpath, thus a reason as to why any change to existing curfews was unlikely to be offered as a non-infrasructure based solution.

  44. johanna

    It was Chinese helicopter pilots who rescued the worthless asses of Turney, a Greens senator-elect, and others in Antarctica a couple of months ago. Flying helicopters in that environment is not exactly peaches and cream.

    Irrespective of the records of this or that airline, to suggest that Chinese aircrew are inherently incompetent is racist twaddle.

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Irrespective of the records of this or that airline, to suggest that Chinese aircrew are inherently incompetent is racist twaddle.

    No. Smart people only hop on planes, trains or automobiles controlled by persons who have English as a first language and eat with a knife and fork. All the rest have cultural baggage that make them unsuitable to be in control of other peoples lives.

  46. Tel

    Phew Tel…..Qantas craves easy no brainer capital to pay the existing union determined wage rates for essentially unskilled counter / res / labourer staff . Thought that was obvious.

    Sure, I crave easy capital to help fund my retirement too, especially if I don’t have to do any work in return, but that just brings me back to the question I already asked:

    What makes you think Chinese investors are more stupid than other investors?

  47. Anne

    Everyone of the alp apprachiks is the puppet of the unions. Albosleazy will do as he is told by the unions.

    Why Carpe?

    Where are the Unions going to go? It seems a bit like the Greens/ALP power sharing exercise last term.

  48. Somerville

    The next time Andrew Bolt tells everybody that Albanese is a ‘man of honour’ and ‘a gentleman’ remember all this. Also remember his insults to the Convoy of No Confidence. Also remember the way he repeatedly tried to incite physical confrontations with citizens protesting against the carbon tax, so that his accomplice media could use the visuals.

    Albanese embodies all the loathsome qualities of Labor. He’s no better than Conroy or any of the others.

  49. Alfonso

    Tel…what makes you think that the Singapore govt or the UAE “govt’, the inevitable eager eventual owners if the Chinese govt is a non acceptable starter, are more stupid than other investors because they lust after Q with a vengeance? It’s the Pacific routes that gets them hard.

    “Irrespective of the records of this or that airline,”…..
    Oh dear, a long time ago we found China Airlines “pilots” good manipulators in the sim but their decision making made it all an impossible operation for Australian airline standards via ANOs and ANRs ……that training contract dried up….we musta been racists. No other alternative.

  50. johanna

    IT, if you are not joking, presumably Lufthansa or Swissair are equivalent to Outer Mongolian Airways?

  51. What ever it takes

    New slogan for Albo Airlines “Happy Landings”

  52. min

    Well Iknow who I would ask about his hidden talents. One of those hardworking non unionised girls who offer therapeutic rub and tug.

  53. Leigh Lowe

    Was that the same Albo who was wetting his pants a mere 12 months ago over the prospect of a Vewwy Farce Twain?
    It must have been serious because he threw $20 meg of our hard-earned at a Pre-Feasibility.
    How does throwing shitloads of money at an airline impact the (cough) viability of the Vewwy Farce Twain?

  54. Tel

    Alfonso, I fail to see why a change in the Qantas Sale Act is inevitable, but anyhow my understanding is that the existing quota of foreign ownership has yet to be reached so there’s nothing stopping these “eager” buyers.

  55. Infidel Tiger

    IT, if you are not joking, presumably Lufthansa or Swissair are equivalent to Outer Mongolian Airways?

    The Germanic tribes are the exception that proves the rule.

  56. Tintarella di Luna

    Albanese embodies all the loathsome qualities of Labor. He’s no better than Conroy or any of the others.

    with nice teeth, but.

  57. Tel

    How does throwing shitloads of money at an airline impact the (cough) viability of the Vewwy Farce Twain?

    It doesn’t of course, which is why it’s so annoying to hear people bang on about “recapitalisation” bullshit. Worse when it’s people who should know better.

  58. johanna

    How about JapanAir? Or Singapore Airlines? More exceptions?

  59. Leigh Lowe

    Alfonso, I fail to see why a change in the Qantas Sale Act is inevitable, but anyhow my understanding is that the existing quota of foreign ownership has yet to be reached so there’s nothing stopping these “eager” buyers.

    Why would they sit on the saddle-horn of a horse they never had a hope of owning?
    If the ownership restrictions were removed the share price would double in anticipation of a welter of buyers interested in an airline unencumbered by employment restrictions.
    Why take a minority interest in Steve Purvinas’ and Tony Sheldon’s blow-up doll?

  60. Infidel Tiger

    How about JapanAir? Or Singapore Airlines? More exceptions?

    Most of the time on Singapore the captain gets on the wireless and says:

    “G’day cobbers, have a grouse bloody flight. Catch youse all when we get this bird down safely”.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    It’s not racism. Asians are good at maths. They are shit at driving.

  62. Ant

    I wonder if Albo’s “massuesse” is union.

  63. Tel

    Leigh Lowe, I’m not convinced that foreign ownership automatically makes the unions roll over, but suppose that is that case… we still aren’t talking about recapitalization, we are talking about union busting.

    The problem with Qantas is profitability, not availability of capital.

    If new capital is needed to pay existing wages then that business is in a death spiral, plain and simple.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh Lowe, I’m not convinced that foreign ownership automatically makes the unions roll over, but suppose that is that case… we still aren’t talking about recapitalization, we are talking about union busting.
    The problem with Qantas is profitability, not availability of capital.

    That wasn’t my point.
    The repeal of the Sale Act would be a double whammy.
    It removes the restriction that any buyer would be restricted to a minority holding and it takes away the Australian employment quotas.
    The two things combined would increase availability if capital and profitability.

  65. Andrew

    QAN needs less capital, not more. High cost duopolies paying staff more thinks it’s natural share is 65% not 35%. They are inevitably $75 more than Virgin when I’m looking for a Perth flight. Every time. So they over invested in planes they now can’t fill. Had they not overstated by 5100, they would not need 50000 cutscutscuts.

    The fact is, OS airline capital is non return sensitive capital. Sometimes govts will fund stupid shit like buying some of QAN. We should say “yay!”

    We saw it too when China was prepared unlimited amounts to buy (for example) Murchinson Metals. The Goose criminally blocked that, and should be horsewhipped. Cost me tens of thousands and of course the project was never built. It’s akin to FIRB rejecting all that Japanese golf course money in the 80s.

    And while we’re bringing back the lash, the Very Foolish Train. It’s not that he wasted $20m on it, which Cabinet should have to repay from a garnishee on their professorial emoluments. It’s that he legitimised an idea which needed someone to issue the proclamation “Don’t Be So Fucking Stupid!” Now I will have to listen for the rest of my life to idiots saying “But Abbott666 blocked the VFT” and I will never forgive him for that.

  66. johanna

    The foreign ownership provisions are probably not as important as those which mandate the vast majority of maintenance being kept in Australia. Taken together, they are a lot of mutually reinforcing lead in the saddlebags.

  67. I rate Albo too. Nought out of ten.
    But still better than Shortarse – minus 1 out of ten.

  68. Walter Plinge

    The last time he had an independent thought was when he decided he should crap his nappy as a toddler.

    Nappy? Surely it was a red diaper.

  69. egg_

    No mention by Albo of Flying Thai, though…..

    SkyWhale Airlines as flown by the Greens?
    You know it makes sense.

  70. egg_

    It’s not racism. Asians are good at maths. They are shit at driving.

    Korean air crew ‘Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Lo and Ho Lee Fuk’ may not disagree?

  71. MikeS

    Johanna – IT in his own abrasive way, is sadly not wrong although it’s probably about culture not race. Google “Asian CRM aviation” (Crew Resource Management) for some insight into accidents which have occurred in part because the junior crew were unprepared to tell their senior that he was doing something stupid. Has happened elsewhere too. Pan Am and KLM in Tenerife was in part due to a cranky senior Dutch pilot.

    No point having 2 pilots in the cockpit if one is too scared to tell the boss he’s screwed up. Kinda like life and politics too when you think about it.

  72. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Any check pilot who runs sims ( we’ve just come home after a wood fired pizza session with some pilots etc) will tell you how easy it it is to get some cultures to prang into terra firma with great regularity. It’s a recognised problem. On another tangent, Bob hawke is still remembered fondly

  73. Stephen of Glasshouse

    Who needs pork on an airline? Pork crackling in a pack is so much better and crumbs down so well …..

  74. David

    Who needs pork on an airline

    Essential for the “Mile High Club” is it not? Or is that “porking”.

  75. gabrianga

    Memory of Albo during Labor Government.

    Crouched down on his hunkers in the House instructing Independents how to vote should a division be called.

  76. Tapdog

    You really wonder whether Labor and the unions would rather Qantas fail than to concede on ownership and accept more reasonable wages and conditions.

    Nothing to wonder about here move along please. Fabians proudly proclaim that their objective with regard to industry is to remake it (where possible) in a Socialist mold or if ‘necessary’, to destroy it. Their progress has been patient, slow and cumulative. We little froggies are being boiled alive.

  77. Alfonso

    Tel ….49% does not a controlling owner make, without that buying interest will be tepid.
    Emirates can become a round the world airline, Singair can monopolise the Singapore Australia Asia routes plus get the largest Aust domestic network as a bonus (their original aim, see Tiger).

    Qantas’s non aviation management can’t organise a piss up in a brewery. The mail is their A380 variant needs some tons more fuel available in some trans Pacific ops where they are now looking at a disasterous intermediate fuel only stop, don’t tell anyone.

  78. Alfonso

    As to Cathay, JAL and Singair, they run much more Western type aviation culture that reflects in their flying standards. That’s the point of difference.

  79. johanna

    Most large companies do not rely on 51% as a “controlling interest”. When ownership is widely spread, 30% or less can be a “controlling interest.”

  80. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    I think it’s a bit harsh not to expect Albo to show gratitude to his union masters and repay them whenever he can.

    If it wasn’t for the ALP, he wouldn’t have advanced beyond assistant shelf stacker at your local green-grocer’s.

    No shnazzy dental work on THAT salary, let me tell you!

  81. Alfonso

    “Most large companies do not rely on 51% as a “controlling interest”

    Indeed, or even much less than 30%. As long as an aggregation of other smaller shareholders going with say EmSing exceeds 50% and they have the ability to increase their stake to outright control if push comes to shove you’ll have interest from EmSing.

  82. Combine_Dave

    Tragically however, the populace in a fit of bogan xenophobia may well prevent China Airlines and hence the People’s Republic govt owning Qantas

    Point of Correction: China Airlines is from Taiwan (The Republic of China NOT the People’s Republic of China).

    But your overall point still stands in regards to the ‘feelings’ of the voting ‘bogan’ public.

  83. Alfonso

    Bugger, memory of the state airline name back when has faded…..we were dealing with crews from the People’s Rep, whatever the state carrier was called back in 80s.

  84. PeterMax

    Albo is another of the endless disasters in Labor. Wherever do Labor get all these disasters from ?

  85. Tel

    Tel ….49% does not a controlling owner make, without that buying interest will be tepid.

    So now you completely accept that this is not about capitalization then?

    Indeed, or even much less than 30%. As long as an aggregation of other smaller shareholders going with say EmSing exceeds 50% and they have the ability to increase their stake to outright control if push comes to shove you’ll have interest from EmSing.

    They can do that right now! Check out how many Qantas shareholders are banks and funds and generally people with no active interest in the management whatsoever. I would have thought anyone with a plausible sounding plan to improve profitability would be very easily able to get such shareholders onside for a change of management … if that’s what it takes.

  86. Combine_Dave

    Irrespective of the records of this or that airline, to suggest that Chinese aircrew are inherently incompetent is racist twaddle.

    No. Smart people only hop on planes, trains or automobiles controlled by persons who have English as a first language and eat with a knife and fork. All the rest have cultural baggage that make them unsuitable to be in control of other peoples lives.

    While I don’t agree with you on this point, it’s worth noting that when they implemented HSR in Taiwan they brought in German engineers/drivers to run the trains.

  87. Combine_Dave

    Bugger, memory of the state airline name back when has faded…..we were dealing with crews from the People’s Rep, whatever the state carrier was called back in 80s.

    Similar name maybe? I think the PRC one is called Air China, so you were pretty close. Although I belive both China Airlines and Air China have a reputation for falling out of the air within mainland China.

    I ‘ve flown numerous times with China Airlines, Eva Air (another TW airline) and Singapore Airlines each time with an all Chinese (at least ethnically) flight crew and of course lovely flight attendents. No crashes and the service was pretty damn good too (cheaper than QANTAS in each case also).

  88. Alfonso

    “They can do that right now! ”

    No, there is a 49% max foreign ownership and no prospect of outright control . If SingEm can persuade the institutions to vote with them it would have been done long ago. Fickle hedge funds do not reliable business partners make it seems.

  89. Gianna

    “Somerville
    #1209038, posted on March 1, 2014 at 7:32 pm
    The next time Andrew Bolt tells everybody that Albanese is a ‘man of honour’ and ‘a gentleman’ remember all this. Also remember his insults to the Convoy of No Confidence.”
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    The people who took part in the Convoy, were for the most part, one assumes, workers.
    Yet there is still a significant number of voters who seem not to care about the arrogance and ignorance of Albanese of the Workers’Party. Peoples’ choice as leader!?

  90. Bert

    God Sloan is a misery. Has she ever got anything positive to contribute? Why do we listen to economists anyway? I pity her long suffering students.

  91. johanna

    Marking your paper, Bert:

    Research = 0%

    Originality = 0%

    Construction and exposition of argument = 0%.

    Total = 0.

  92. Dan

    All Albo’s “work” came about from The Trade Coast report (read it, it’s borderline crap – just another Rudd ministry review) Everything he has done has been a boon for the unions and fucking expensive for the rest of us.

    The LNP should instigate a review into Albos implementation and measure just how much of a disaster it has been

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