He’s got a little list

Andrew Bolt has quite a neat list of what divides left and right, socialists and conservatives, progressives and small-l liberals, or however you might like to name and frame the differences between the two sides of politics. This is in answer to the ABC’s Jonathan Green who thinks that he, like the rest of the ABC, represents the middle ground. This is the list to which no doubt others might be added.

- restrictions on free speech
- the retribalising of our nation
- changing the constitution to effectively divide us by race
- our high levels of immigration
- massive overspending on entitlements and welfare schemes
- workplace restriction which employers say cost jobs and investment
- government handouts to prop up companies from Qantas to car-makers, involving billions of dollars and thousands of jobs
- preventing illegal immigration, which under Labor was reaching levels approaching 40,000 people a year
- the global warming faith and its carbon tax, responsible in part for the loss of thousands of Australian jobs
- the Renewable Energy Target, who helps make electricity a luxury for the poor without doing anything for the environment
- the green bans on nuclear power and on dams to water our growing cities.
- appeasing or defying rising Third World or developing powers such as China
- surrendering elements of our self-government to multinational fora such as the United Nations
- limiting the reach and bias of our massive state media
- green restrictions on the use of our natural resources, costing possibly tens of thousands of jobs
- how to fight Islamist extremism, already responsible for the loss of hundreds of Australian lives

For more on these issues, there is an interesting article, naturally written by someone on the left, that deals with Are left and right a feature (or bug) of evolution?. It’s a review of two books that look at politics and evolution. You should read it all, but this I thought was precious:

Liberals and conservatives, conclude Hibbing et al., “experience and process different worlds.” No wonder, then, that they often cannot agree. These experiments suggest that conservatives actually do live in a world that is more scary and threatening, at least as they perceive it. Trying to argue them out of it is pointless and naive. It’s like trying to argue them out of their skin.

I, of course, see this in exactly the reverse way. It is the Candides of the left who see no danger and create havoc through their ignorance and blindness to actual problems they ignore. Every one of the issues raised on Andrew’s list is a minefield for which so far as I can see there is not a single realistic solution being offered by the left.

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41 Responses to He’s got a little list

  1. I, of course, see this in exactly the reverse way. It is the Candides of the left who see no danger and create havoc through their ignorance and blindness to actual problems they ignore. Every one of the issues raised on Andrew’s list is a minefield for which so far as I can see there is not a single realistic solution being offered by the left.

    But they waste so much time on their priority issues, namely:

    - catastrophic anthropogenic climate change (warming or cooling – take your pick)
    - trollhunting and imaginary sexism
    - plastic bags in supermarkets
    - trade union politics
    - student politics
    - Fairtrade coffee beans
    - the United Nations
    - Jew-baiting
    - ridiculing Christians

    etc.

    Such a shame – all that wasted energy that could be being put into developing actual solutions to real problems, right here and now.

  2. Gab

    A slight edit if I may:

    It is the Candides candida albicans of the left who see no danger and create havoc through their ignorance, reflexive opposition to the blinding obvious and blindness to actual problems they ignore.

    Two more things of which the Left is wilfully ignorant and therefore claim:

    1. There is no such thing as a slippery slope
    2. There is no such thing as unintended consequences.

  3. I shall volunteer to take the acid test, awarding myself one (1) point for every point I think is wrong/dangerous.

    - restrictions on free speech – 1 point
    - the retribalising of our nation – 1 point
    - changing the constitution to effectively divide us by race – 1 point
    - our high levels of immigration – 0 points. Let them pour into our country from anywhere, as long as they bring their complete and unrestricted pots of cash, high skill levels in useful and legal industries/disciplines, and fluent English, and have a job waiting for them here, or can create one in a legal way within 12 months.- massive overspending on entitlements and welfare schemes – 1 point
    - workplace restriction which employers say cost jobs and investment – 1 point
    - government handouts to prop up companies from Qantas to car-makers, involving billions of dollars and thousands of jobs – 1 point
    - preventing illegal immigration, which under Labor was reaching levels approaching 40,000 people a year – 1 point
    - the global warming faith and its carbon tax, responsible in part for the loss of thousands of Australian jobs – 1 point
    - the Renewable Energy Target, who helps make electricity a luxury for the poor without doing anything for the environment – 1 point
    - the green bans on nuclear power and on dams to water our growing cities.- 1 point
    - appeasing or defying rising Third World or developing powers such as China – 0 points – still thinking about this one
    - surrendering elements of our self-government to multinational fora such as the United Nations
    - limiting the reach and bias of our massive state media – 1 point
    - green restrictions on the use of our natural resources, costing possibly tens of thousands of jobs – 1 point
    - how to fight Islamist extremism, already responsible for the loss of hundreds of Australian lives – 1 point.

    Not bad.

  4. Gab

    - catastrophic anthropogenic climate change (warming or cooling – take your pick)
    - trollhunting and imaginary sexism
    - plastic bags in supermarkets
    - trade union politics
    - student politics
    - Fairtrade coffee beans
    - the United Nations
    - Jew-baiting
    - ridiculing Christians

    - BDS
    - evil plastic bottles
    - fruit juices and soft drink prohibitionists
    - cig and alcohol…meh, prohibition in general
    - food fascists

  5. calli

    It is the Candides candida albicans of the left who see no danger and create havoc through their ignorance, reflexive opposition to the blinding obvious and blindness to actual problems they ignore.

    Lol! That’s EMILY for ya! A nasty little itch that just won’t go away.

  6. Ah, thank you Gab. I knew there were a few more.

    - breastfeeding in public
    - fois gras repression
    - Gay Mardi Gras
    - cycle helmets
    - not being able to afford quaint apartments in desirable inner-city locales

  7. gabrianga

    Perhaps a reply from the Left, Far Left, Centre Left, Centre Right or Right Wing of Labor Party could clarify?

  8. Megan

    I’ve spent the better part of today trying to ignore the utterly predictable facebook meme on Abbott666′s comments yesterday on the locking/unlocking of forests. Calling him an imbecile and taking what he did say complexity out of context. A third grader in my days of teaching would not have made the same errors of clear thinking evident in this fiftieth rate effort to push their political views. Mostly posted by otherwise nice enough people with whom I work…in a lower echelon tertiary institution.

    Nice enough, but utterly brainless and unthinking on anything at all political. Do they not have anything in their homes made of wood, are they not the chief hand wringers about how digital resources are taking over from real books, are they not to be found poring over the paper edition of Fauxfax every lunchtime, do they not wax lyrical every winter on the joys of their open fire in their weatherboard cottage in Northcote. Where the blithering hell do they think the raw materials for these indulgences come from?

    No, as long as they can slag off at the Evil Murdoch, attend pro-life rallies, pontificate on the merits of alternative energy and the wonder of the carbon tax, bring their dinky little lunch boxes to save paper and plastic wrap, carry their stuff in the hideous and environmentally damaging Green bags while discussing ad infinitum how critical the NBN is to the development of the digital literacy of the entire country if not the world, they are happy. No sign of anything resembling the real world anywhere to be seen.

    They have been blessed to have lived through a period of unprecedented peace and prosperity. Any student of history should be able to tell you that this is an anomaly that is rarely sustained. I only hope that their superannuation retirement balances are much less than they were expecting due to heavy investment in sustainable, and ethical (as defined by the above biases) companies like Flim-Flam’s geo-thermal disaster.

  9. Anne

    -The volume of legislation passed is directly proportionate to the you-beautness of Government!

  10. Megan

    …completely, not complexity. iPad predictive text is nothing but a sneaky little bastard designed to undermine one’s public persona as a pedant. Also nine times out of ten, any correction will contain further errors.

  11. calli

    Megan, the only question I have to ask the handwringers of which you speak, is ‘do you use toilet paper or your left hand?’ Coarse, I know, but there was once a time when the little pieces of soft tissue wrapping stone fruit and the like was treasured. The alternative was cut up pieces of the SMH, pierced with an awl, threaded on string and stuck on a nail.

    Cossetted, pampered and edumacated beyond their abilities, they have lost their grip on reality.

  12. Gab

    reminds me, further to Phillipa’s list:

    - they want to ban soft toilet paper

  13. calli

    Heheh. Sorry about the rant. There’s a toilet paper plant that’s native to NZ. That’ll do the trick! :)

  14. Carpe Jugulum

    It is the Candides of the left who see no danger and create havoc through their ignorance and blindness to actual problems they ignore.

    The left (for want of better words) are basically nanny statists who wish to impose their will on others. They will happily murder thousands for their idea of the greater good.

    They are rude, arrogant, intellectual pygmies with the insight of a 5 year old. I wish them an early demise, hopefully from something painfull and disfiguring.

  15. entropy

    Must avoid NZ jokes.

  16. manalive

    The idea that there is some biological or genetic basis for political outlook doesn’t stand up in the case of people like me and many others who began adult life as naive leftists and have moved with age to the libertarian right due to experience.
    Leftists are fantasists, those on the liberal right are empiricists.

  17. Cold-Hands

    Megan, surely you intended “pro-choice”. The fashionistas of the Left are all for abortion on demand (including post delivery).

  18. Cold-Hands

    They are rude, arrogant, intellectual pygmies with the insight of a 5 year old.

    Who want to micromanage everybody elses’ lives.

  19. nic

    It is the Candides of the left who see no danger and create havoc through their ignorance and blindness to actual problems they ignore.

    Yes. For example, open borders are good (tick) but never have to live anywhere remotely near places that experience social friction. Welfare should assist such people without any concern as to ‘who will pay’. They, at the same time, also complain about over crowding and the need for ‘sustainability’ without ever reconciling cause and effect.

  20. Carpe Jugulum

    Who want to micromanage everybody elses’ lives.

    My bad CH that i missed that

  21. Abu Chowdah

    Let’s begin with the large body of shared ground. Surveying the evidence with a fair mind, it is hard to deny that science is revealing a very inconvenient truth about left and right: long before they become members of different parties, liberals and conservatives appear to start out as different people. “Bedrock political orientations just naturally mesh with a broader set of orientations, tastes, and preferences because they are all part of the same biologically rooted inner self,” write Hibbing et al. The research demonstrating this is so diverse, comes from so many fields, and shows so many points of overlap and consistency that you either have to accept that there’s really something going on here or else start spinning a conspiracy theory to explain it all away.

    Wow. Hold the front page. Lefties and conservatives gravitate to their respective groupings because of their inherent world view.

    What. A. Revelation.

  22. Tom

    It says plenty that desire of the fucktards on the left to discredit those on the right (see Steve’s link) is so full of irrational feelgood hate and spite that the “science” they use is an indefensible comedy of assumptions and vapid stupidity that underline why the left can never be trusted with life-and-death decisions about the future of civilisation. The left is a menace that must be destroyed if we are to avoid being dragged back into the primeval slime. The fact that the left hates democracy, refuses to acknowledge Australia’s rejection of leftist totalitarianism in September 2013 and is now attempting to make the country ungovernable merely underlines the urgency of the problem. The left must be smashed, beginning with a strong police response to the anti-government riots planned for March 15-17. These people are the scum of the earth; they are the enemies of net taxpayers who work for a living in the private economy and have aspirations for the future.

  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Wow. Hold the front page. Lefties and conservatives gravitate to their respective groupings because of their inherent world view.

    More than half of the regulars here on the Cat are old lefties who have seen the light.

    Put that in your research and smoke it, lefties.

  24. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Not bad.

    You and I, both, Philippa. We done good.
    In fact, show me anyone on the Cat who can do otherwise with this test.

  25. Abu Chowdah

    I think it’s interesting that in a study of the evolutionary development of biases, there’s no acknowledgement that the development comes as a result of environmental experiences and what strategies succeed or fail. When the reviewer notes this:

    Indeed, here is where perhaps some of the most stunning science-of-politics results arise. Several research groups have shown that compared with liberals, conservatives have a greater focus on negative stimuli or a “negativity bias”: they pay more attention to the alarming, the threatening, and the disgusting in life. In one experiment that captured this, Hibbing and his colleagues showed liberals and conservatives a series of collages, each comprised of a mixture of positive images (cute bunnies, smiling children) and negative ones (wounds, a person eating worms). Test subjects were fitted with eye-tracker devices that measured where they looked, and for how long. The results were stark: conservatives fixed their eyes on the negative images much more rapidly, and dwelled on them much longer, than did the liberals.

    Liberals and conservatives, conclude Hibbing et al., “experience and process different worlds.” No wonder, then, that they often cannot agree. These experiments suggest that conservatives actually do live in a world that is more scary and threatening, at least as they perceive it. Trying to argue them out of it is pointless and naive. It’s like trying to argue them out of their skin.

    He fails to consider that those strategies have developed to aid survival and, in that sense, they could hardly be anything but positive and successful – and likely to be of use in future to people who want to engage with all the risk that the world entails.

    So what accounts for the fact that liberals dwell and focus more on cute and happy images? How did they survive the vicissitudes of life in ages past? My guess is they were more the exception than the rule in tribal times, but have flourished with the rise of sedentary society and are set to dominate any secure society as time diminishes the memory of the risks that exist in the larger world (i.e., in the US and in Australia). Meanwhile in Russia and other harder places, where lessons are more recent, conservative approaches to viewing the world (as a challenge based on threat rather than pleasant interaction) will continue to dominate due to their success.

    Perhaps we should place restrictions on assortative mating, to stop beta males spreading their low order survival traits? Ironically a breeding program would appeal to their command approach to social and economic matters.

  26. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    - they want to ban soft toilet paper

    Ah, now there they have me. Too soft and it is all a disaster. Kleenex paper fails the test, imho.
    Children and Hairy Apes require just the appropriate level of strength and give in that department.
    Trust me, perforce, I have made a study of it.

  27. calli

    He fails to consider that those strategies have developed to aid survival and, in that sense, they could hardly be anything but positive and successful – and likely to be of use in future to people who want to engage with all the risk that the world entails.

    Agreed, Abu. And to follow on from Lizzie, it’s three ply chez calli. The world is truly full of risks we would rather not take.

    And as for ‘little lists’ I give you Eric Idle even though he’s a bit mean about Australians.

  28. Abu Chowdah

    I thought this Amazon review summed it up nicely:

    Quite a disappointment.
    Rather than the evenhanded, genetic/anthropology-oriented examination I anticipated, the book instead is a jejune attempt to characterize conservatism as atavism. The author is so transparently a progressive personally, that I’m sure he indeed thought he was simply following the facts and being evenhanded.

    $10 wasted on an undergrad liberal arts thesis.

  29. Megan

    Thanks Cold Hands…I did indeed mean pro-choice.

  30. wreckage

    Well the dude doesn’t understand evolution or survival traits, so I’d chalk it up to the omnipresent and overriding impulse of leftist thought: elevation to a virtue of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

  31. JohnA

    Calli:

    “And as for ‘little lists’ I give you Eric Idle even though he’s a bit mean about Australians.”

    Doesn’t matter, he didn’t stint himself, and did it well!

    Walter, the link is to a playlist of great variety, including the brilliant Thomas Allen at the Proms – enjoy!

  32. even though he’s a bit mean about Australians.

    At least he didn’t sledge those who oppose the “carbon” tax as does the politically correct cove, Mitchell Butel, in Opera Australia’s version:

    those climate change deniers who don’t like the carbon tax
    who haven’t read the science and don’t really know the facts.

    I wonder how many people who bought their own tickets to see OA’s version of “The Mikado” support that silly tax and how many who do support it have bothered to “read the science”.

  33. Ripper

    No solutions from the right in the US since Ron Paul has retired.

  34. Nato

    V. Cool link, Liberals depending on conservatives to watch out for them; and looser sexual morality among Liberals, low enough to bump uglies with short gingers.

    Good reading, but not as entertaining as following the link to Green’s piece at the Bolt link where he accuses those spotty Green Left Weekly vendors as the last few supporters of profitless and utilitarian enterprizes… Like the ALP was, but isn’t any more… Just look at the party’s response to the current Qantas dilemma!

  35. Louis Hissink

    The left are distinguished by one trait – they without exception shoot the messenger. That’s all you need to know to identify them.

  36. CatAttack

    Shoot the messenger and oh not afraid to lie if it’s for a good cause. And shameless. And always first to take the high moral ground.

  37. CatAttack

    And a naive world view view that brands everyone else as racists but imagines all asylum seekers, for example, are dumb clucks who can’t use the internet, operate a smart phone or are just ignorant simpletons.

  38. Mr Rusty

    In one experiment that captured this, Hibbing and his colleagues showed liberals and conservatives a series of collages, each comprised of a mixture of positive images (cute bunnies, smiling children) and negative ones (wounds, a person eating worms). Test subjects were fitted with eye-tracker devices that measured where they looked, and for how long. The results were stark: conservatives fixed their eyes on the negative images much more rapidly, and dwelled on them much longer, than did the liberals.

    Which means what exactly?
    In my experience it is the left who spend all their bloody time seeking out and highlighting every tiny anthill of negativity and then blowing it up into the volcano of all injustices. Trying to convince everyone society is unjust and uncaring because the bum jockeys can’t get a piece of paper to say they love each other. Holding vigils and cryathons because a country invader had a premature meeting with Allah. Railing against da inekwalidee because little Brucey in Rooty Hill can’t afford the latest Xbox (since his single Mum has spent all her welfare on the pokies instead of her 7 kids by 7 different fathers).
    They live in one of the luckiest, prosperous, egalitarian, peaceful, advanced cultures to ever exist and they see it as a demonic, hate-filled, bigoted, uncaring, hell-on-earth populated by intolerant, selfish, greedy, lazy, racists.
    And conservatives dwell on negativity?!

  39. cuckoo

    Some other, smaller shibboleths that can be used to divide left from right:
    - tasers, at least when used by police (ABC and SBS are obsessed with this)
    - ticket inspectors on public transport (this one drives the Age absolutely nuts)
    - ‘racist’ coffee-mug holders that are so obscure the ‘racism’ has to be explained to the general public

  40. old bloke

    The most distinguishing trait of the lefties is their need for mutual approval. These beta types will always follow the prevailing PC dogma simply to gain the approval of their fellow betas.

  41. jupes

    Surveying the evidence with a fair mind, it is hard to deny that science is revealing a very inconvenient truth about left and right:

    No shit.

    Lefties believe that a tax can change the weather. Conservatives follow the scientific method and look for evidence.

    Unsurprisingly, there is none.

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