Damn foreigners and unionist scaremongering

Well not only do “they” take our jobs, they don’t pay tax either.

Thousands of Taiwanese workers employed in Australian abattoirs are not paying tax, according to the meatworkers’ union.

The young workers, in the country on working holiday visas, work for major Australian companies such as smallgoods manufacturer Primo through specialist labour hire agencies.

The Australasian Meat Industry Employees Union says the workers are being ripped off, working long hours for little pay.

What is worse, it adds, is that the foreign workers are replacing local workers in towns where the meatworks is a major employer.

(HT: Pyrmonter)

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59 Responses to Damn foreigners and unionist scaremongering

  1. C.L.

    Thousands of Taiwanese workers employed in Australian abattoirs are not paying tax, according to the meatworkers’ union.

    So?

    Good luck to them.

    They deserve to be tax-free given that unlike Australian unionists, they actually work.

  2. Anthony

    Wonderful to see a union so concerned for foreign workers and so concerned that people pay taxes. The downfall of Michael Williamson and Craig Thomson must be having a positive effect for the tax collectors union.

  3. Delta A

    We stayed at a tourist park in Inverell, NSW. Most of the cabins had been hired out to young people from SE Asian countries who were employed by the local meatworks. They were diligent workers, according to the manager, happy to work in positions which the locals shunned. I’ve never met such delightful and respectful young people.

  4. C.L.

    My experience too, Delta.

    Asian immigrants are always welcome in this country.

  5. brc

    Sounds suspiciously like Filipinos working in McDonald’s on 457 visas to me.

  6. H B Bear

    Well the link is ALPBC reporting hearsay*.

    * May not bear any resemblance to any facts.

  7. Craig Mc

    Asian immigrants are always welcome in this country.

    Non-bludging cultures welcome in my book too.

  8. Token

    Thousands of Taiwanese workers employed in Australian abattoirs are not paying tax, according to the meatworkers’ union.

    Typical union crap to create fear. The union does not have any real evidence, they are running a xenophobic scare campaign based upon no actual evidence.

    I know people on this visas and can confim this is not correct. They definitely pay tax.

  9. Gab

    Sounds like Primo employs a non-unionized and is being targeted by the union. Would be interesting to see the union’s evidence of their accusations.

  10. Token

    Watch & wait, the consequence of this xenophoblic scare campaign will be Australian’s under 31 working in the UK will not be able to work for hire companies on the Isle of Wight, etc. to pay the minimal legal amount of tax.

  11. Gab

    Sounds suspiciously like Filipinos working in McDonald’s on 457 visas to me.

    lol my first thought as well.

  12. Token

    Sounds like Primo employs a non-unionized and is being targeted by the union. Would be interesting to see the union’s evidence of their accusations.

    It will be. We receive monthly statements from union run super funds for Taiwanese friends who were convered under the tourist visa scheme, who have stayed with us and did not change their postal address after they left the country.

  13. Gibbo

    Primo ham for lunch tomorrow then.

  14. Pickles

    Plenty of work at Charleville boning goats.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle

    Thousands of Taiwanese workers employed in Australian abattoirs are not paying tax, according to the meatworkers’ union.

    I was visiting a certain large mine site one day. It was 42 C. I said to the met taking me around “why don’t you get the process workers to monitor the operation like they do at X in Queensland?”. She said “See that guy over there? Last job he has was in an abbatoir.” Oh, I see says I.

    True story.

    In other words Aussies prefer to work on a mine site in 42 C heat rather than work in an abbatoir.

    No. The Taiwanese are an improvement since they do buy stuff. And therefore pay some GST. The alternative is zip, zero, nothing. No workers and no tax at all.

  16. Token

    No. The Taiwanese are an improvement since they do buy stuff. And therefore pay some GST. The alternative is zip, zero, nothing. No workers and no tax at all.

    If they don’t qualify to cross the tax free threshold, why should they pay tax?

    They don’t get covered by Medicare if they have to go to a doctor so that is all paid retail – and most of the remote locations they work do not have a 24 hour emergency department to go to, to avoid paying for a doctor.

  17. Token

    How you know this is bulls**t.

    They are incentised to be as legit as possible by the visa system. They can extend their working visa from 1 to 2 years by registered as working for an employer in a remote location for at least 3 months.

    This would not be possible if they were doing the work “off the books”. They want at least 2 years being paid at Australian rates as what they get paid to do low level work in Australia is a lot more than they would get paid in Taiwan.

  18. cynical1

    Thousands of Taiwanese workers employed in Australian abattoirs are not paying tax, according to the meatworkers’ union.

    Thousands of refugees aren’t working full stop…..

  19. Fred Lenin

    The meatworkers union used to be a hotbed of bludgers and misfits ,wally curran the secretary was a Stalinist Stirrer and mate of halfpenny the trade council commo ,they almost wrecked the meat industry in Victoria and put 1000 s of people out of work ,I doubt it has changed curran the commo got an AO or one of those rewards for helping Australia ,his commo mates in the alp looked after the slimebag! Birds of a feather?

  20. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    they almost wrecked the meat industry in Victoria

    The wreckage of the meat industry by the Meat workers union was an Australia wide exercise, not just Victoria.

  21. Token

    The meatworkers union used to be a hotbed of bludgers and misfits

    The Taiwanese who work in such locations I know confirm this is still true for members of MWU. They like to move on after 3 months as they get sick of carrying that lot.

  22. Token

    they almost wrecked the meat industry in Victoria

    Dougie Cameron, come on down.

  23. Kaboom

    “Plenty of work at Charleville boning goats.”

    Pickles, for Allah’s (swt) sake, these are Taiwanese, not Mohammedans!

    Have some decorum, please!

  24. calli

    Sounds suspiciously like Filipinos working in McDonald’s on 457 visas to me.

    Watch it, brc! You’ll conjure him up from the vasty deep…and he will come. He won’t be able to resist.

  25. Pickles

    Thanks Kaboom. After I pressed post I thought surely no one who comments here is that puerile. I’ll let the mummy cats berate you.

  26. Kaboom

    “I’ll let the mummy cats berate you.”

    Bring it on! Hey, when is the next gathering at the Regatta? If my claw-marks heal, I might even get there…

  27. Senile Old Guy

    Well the link is ALPBC reporting hearsay*.

    * MayWill not bear any resemblance to any facts.

    Fixed.

  28. Dan

    The company has to take out PAYG tax, otherwise its the company in the shit

  29. Alfonso

    “are an improvement since they do buy stuff. And therefore pay some GST.”

    Brill, and an excellent argument for primitive 3rd world illegal boat immigrants as well.

  30. Bruce of Newcastle

    an excellent argument for primitive 3rd world illegal boat immigrants as well

    No. The illegal boat immigrants are illegal. The Taiwanese are legal. The refugees we take from camps are legal too. Would be a good thing if the LNP would bring in a policy to train these people to work in such occupations rather than have them wander the streets of Doonside.

    Alfonso – there are jobs that Aussies won’t take. Which says a lot about our welfare system. If the Taiwanese are prepared to do them on 457′s then good on them.

  31. Ant

    Look, we all know the left and Labor don’t really dislike “foreign workers” per se.

    It’s just that they dislike foreign workers when they’ve got brown or yellow skin. You know, “the other”.

    Would they ever complain about ‘white’ foreign workers from, say, Zimbabwe? No. UK, never!

    It’s just those coloured people they object to.

  32. Tom

    The Australasian Meat Industry Employees Union says the workers are being ripped off, working long hours for little pay.

    Doncha love how these union gangsters lie their heads off — and how they can count on one of Their ABC’s anti-capitalist doctrinal enforcers (Matt Peacock) to provide the pathetic piano accompaniment in a minor key?

    If there was anything illegal about the arrangement, the FWA bruvvers would have shut it down.

    Once again, aspirational Asians are scooping up cash for work that the lazy white trash refuses to do. And that South Park Youtube perfectly expresses the incoherent gibberish dredged up by The Entitled.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Plenty of work at Charleville boning goats.

    That’s not work my friend. That’s sport.

  34. Fred Lenin

    ZK2A I was only speaking from personal knowlege,I knew a family of butchers who built up a good business ,employing a lot of people ,the continual demands of union thugs wrecked the business mand put a large number of people out of work ,so much for liebor lookin after the wukkers!To give curran an award is Spitting in the Real peoples faces,liebor the party of the Bludging Class!

  35. Mr Rusty

    1. On 457′s they will be paying MORE tax than a domestic worker (which they can claim back when they return home.)
    2. Despite paying more tax they have limited access to Medicare and no access to Centrelink.
    3. If they are displacing Unionised workers then bring more of them in, every job they take is less money in Union Labor coffers.
    5. I can’t count.

  36. Menai Pete

    Thanks to Paul Zanetti (cartoonist):

    Gotta hand it to our alternative PM. He knows how to plagiarise a good sledge when he hears it.
    “Cheese-eating surrender monkeys”, sometimes shortened to “surrender monkeys”, is a pejorative term for the French people. The term was coined in 1995 by Ken Keeler, a writer for the television series The Simpsons. The term has entered two Oxford quotation dictionaries. The term was also used by National Review journalist Jonah Goldberg during the early phases of the Iraq War.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUjGf2Grrus

  37. Combine Dave

    Unionists; now targeting Taiwanese?

  38. Combine Dave

    Look, we all know the left and Labor don’t really dislike “foreign workers” per se. It’s just that they dislike foreign workers when they’ve got brown or yellow skin. You know, “the other”.

    Incorrect. The unions love foreigners fine when they get off their boats from Indon and are lining up at the centrelink and later when they are lining up at the voting booth and voting Labor.

    What they don’t like is the foreign “worker”, who comes here and works or sets up a competitive business here and doesn’t tolerate a slovenly unionized work force.

  39. Those damn foreigners are working for low pay and not paying tax that would make their pay even lower and taking jobs off us that we wouldn’t take anyway because the pay is too low!

    Nothing like a coherent, reasonable, non-contradictory argument, is there?

  40. gabrianga

    Matt Peacock was the leading ABC Leftie in Darwin near three decades ago and was well known for his “imaginative” reporting.

    This brought a tear (of laughter) to my eye

    The meatworkers’ union secretary, Grant Courtney, has been investigating the plight of the international workers for the past two years

    Just as Thomson was investigating the “plight” of the whores his mates planted in his wardrobe.

  41. Token

    Unionists; now targeting Taiwanese?

    What is old is new again. Remember when the xenophobic racist scum called the better made Japanese / Taiwanese imports Jap crap, Nip Sh*t, etc?

  42. rebel with cause

    Apparently Apple Computers doesn’t pay much tax here either, but I bet ABC staff aren’t handing in their iPhones

  43. Combine_Dave

    Remember when the xenophobic racist scum called the better made Japanese / Taiwanese imports Jap crap, Nip Sh*t, etc?

    Apparently for the union movement this has never changed.

  44. .

    Boom IT, damn man you make the arvo after a long day.

    calli
    #1215602, posted on March 7, 2014 at 3:28 pm
    Sounds suspiciously like Filipinos working in McDonald’s on 457 visas to me.

    Watch it, brc! You’ll conjure him up from the vasty deep…and he will come. He won’t be able to resist.

    Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary…Azazel Azazel Azazel…

  45. Adrian

    I worked with the Taiwanese workers in an abattoir in WA for a couple years. Very good workers and kind and considerate people. Abattoir loved having them over as finding decent hard working employees who would turn up to work every day were not easy to find amongst the locals. My only concern is that they are being paid the correct wage and are not being exploited which I doubt as these people are not dumb. I was also a member of the AMIEU for a decade and we always had a decent rapport with the company even though some of the Union reps from outside seemed to have other interests besides representing us. The environment was and still is pretty rough and ready and most employees were in the Union, it was just easier that way and you did get decent money, even though the old tally system is mainly gone now. I did not like the labor hire firms used at abattoirs as foreigners would get preferential treatment because they cost less and were on 457 visas and locals would not be hired. It seems to be a catch 22 and finding the balance is difficult.

  46. Linden

    I’ve been into quite a number of different abattoirs some years ago now, ( I worked Don Watson Transport, which is a specialist meat carrying company.), and all I can say if it were not for foreigners working in these places they would cease to exist. One time the abattoirs at Yarrawonga was closed down due to union trouble and only reopened when the workers decided they needed their jobs. Yes I remember the Wally Currin days, didn’t matter what kind of deal was offered it never suited Currin the as a consequence man regional mid to smaller operators were closed down and many lost jobs over it.

  47. Dan

    derka derr

    Unionists have a very low TMI score

  48. Tardell G

    Taiwanese workers contribute greatly to the rich tapestry of contemporary Australian multicultural life .
    We should encourage their Dim Sum and their ability to bone goats.

  49. johanna

    Tardell G, Taiwan’s GDP per capita is only slightly below Australia’s and rates 28th in the world – we are 19th.

    Suggest you take your racist crap elsewhere.

  50. Vasily

    Struggling to grasp your point here, Prof. Davidson.
    Did you do English composition along with Economics at university?
    Do you know how to build an argument?
    My grade: C-

  51. Gab

    Vasily, if you can’t understand English, don’t insult the Professor. And if you have an issue with his post, then be all means attack his points. Just saying you think he’s wrong or whatever is lazy and meaningless and makes you look like a moron.

  52. Combine_Dave

    Taiwanese workers contribute greatly to the rich tapestry of contemporary Australian multicultural life .
    We should encourage their Dim Sum and their ability to bone goats.

    Aren’t Dim Sums those terrible dumplings that come from Hong Kong? I prefer Goutie or Xiao Long Bao, usually such dumplings contain pork rather than goat meat however.

    Anyway I am sure our many Taiwanese immigrants (which should be increased by the way), contribute more to Australia by way of $ and culture than the members of the liars party and associated lazy slobs (aka unions).

  53. Ed

    Struggling to grasp your point here, Prof. Davidson.

    The unions are complaining about foreign non-unionised workers in meatworks. Prof Davidson mocked them using a South Park clip. The clip makes fun of ignorant, xenophobic “they took our job” type attitudes.

    If you genuinely didn’t understand the point, I just explained it to you.

  54. Combine_Dave

    If you genuinely didn’t understand the point, I just explained it to you

    You can not explain away wilful ignorance.

  55. sabrina

    There are some jobs that Aussies won’t do – true.
    One example is cheap plasterers, Chinese students, employed at very low pay, by unionised bikies acting as contractors. Large corporations know this but turn a blind eye. While the practice is questionable, what this does is to drive down the wage that the Australian workers demand, wrongly or rightly. That is not necessarily bad. The Australian brick layers ask and get away with anywhere between $1.50 and $5 per brick laying depending on various factors. Whether that is sustainable is another issue.

  56. brinkin

    Matt Peacock well knows that the meat workers union forced the closure of every abattoir north of Townsville, including Katherine. apparently they thought the cattle would be sent to the salubrious east coast for slaughter, instead they were sent overseas as live cattle so they really shot themselves in the foot.

  57. johanna

    I have googled all over the place, but can’t find references to Matt Peacock’s hoax in the name of a good cause, which I think happened in the 80s. It seems to have been disappeared.

    Sorry, Grigory, but it’s my “barrister’s brain” at work again. It definitely happened, but the details are well and truly gone.

    Can anyone help?

  58. .

    sabrina
    #1216548, posted on March 8, 2014 at 9:16 am
    There are some jobs that Aussies won’t do – true.
    One example is cheap plasterers, Chinese students, employed at very low pay, by unionised bikies acting as contractors. Large corporations know this but turn a blind eye. While the practice is questionable, what this does is to drive down the wage that the Australian workers demand, wrongly or rightly. That is not necessarily bad. The Australian brick layers ask and get away with anywhere between $1.50 and $5 per brick laying depending on various factors. Whether that is sustainable is another issue.

    What a crock of shit, Sabrina.

    Care to name unions and corporations involved in this involuntary servitude?

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