Insiders and Bolt Report Forum: March 23, 2014

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133 Responses to Insiders and Bolt Report Forum: March 23, 2014

  1. Tom

    Waaa??? I didn’t see this thread until 9.45am.

  2. Major Elvis Newton

    Did some clown on Insiders really just say MH370 was crashed by Abbott to take attention away from Sinodinos?

  3. The Pugilist

    Tom, don’t worry. It’s not as if anyone is watching ABC’s Circlejerk Insiders…no-one here is missing anything…

  4. Foggyfig

    I am glad that there are no comments yet, Tom. Means Insiders was a complete waste of time this morning ;)

  5. Rabz

    Watching fathead Jones apologising to Bolt.

  6. Mike of Marion

    Thank god for Gerard. He was lucky to get any points in with motormouth Taylor on the panel.

  7. H B Bear

    Ol’ Leathery still pulling the heavy hitters – K D Wrong the $106bn woman.

    Nice work Scrotes!

  8. Cold-Hands

    “Penny Wong: you just failed a test of character”. So true.

  9. Rabz

    FFS, these stupid bloody ads are infuriating!

  10. JMH

    Can’t be stuffed giving up an hour to watch a circlejerk. However, my sympathy to Gerard Henderson – the lone voice of reason, obviously.

    I am watching The Bolt Report.

  11. Cold-Hands

    Nice visual aid on legislation passed in the last year of Gillard/Rudd.

  12. james

    Josh F seems to be presenting well on Bolt. He should really shave his head and go for the Bruce Willis look rather than holding onto the last scraps of his hair.

    There has been a lot of flack over the fact that the “bonfire of the regulations” is no such thing, but it is a start.

  13. Baldrick

    “18C does need to be amended.”

    Wrong … It should be scrapped.

  14. Rabz

    That syphilitic ol’ dolt Hawker – and now more bloody ads.

    Enough.

  15. PT

    Why can’t I deny the Holocaust if I want to?

  16. james

    I used to enjoy watching insiders to see just how Barrie planned to excuse the latest Rudd or Gillard disaster this week.

    Towards the end of the regime it became farce.

    Josh F wants to ban holocaust denial? Seriously?

    The best medicine to idiots like that is to expose them to sunlight, not make them David Irving style martyrs.

    I haven’t taken a poll but is a fear of conspiracist nutcases that most people wouldn’t touch with a very long poll really the rational behind the Jewish communities public opposition to restoring free speech?

  17. Baldrick

    Is Bolta going to ask Hawker about Rudd’s $200,000 donation?

  18. Cold-Hands

    Is Bolta going to ask Hawker about Rudd’s $200,000 donation?

    Yes!

  19. PT

    Maybe it should be made illegal to question the Stolen Generation too.

  20. Baldrick

    …and Hawker ties himself in knots … beautiful to watch.

  21. PT

    And add on the Armenian Genocide and Climate Change.

  22. Cold-Hands

    Peter Costello’s just sitting back, enjoying watching Hawker squirm.

  23. PT

    Hawker says he is lost for words- is that a first?

  24. Cold-Hands

    “Ken [Henry] is not politically astute”
    Gold!

  25. Mr Rusty

    Costello – we were approached to do a pink batts when in Government and knocked it back because it was bad policy.

  26. iamok

    Hawker: “No incoming govt in 113 years has removed the Treasurer (sic).” Well maybe there is a bloody good reason the Treasury head was removed. Maybe, just maybe, he was that compromised or incompetent. Or both.

    Note Costello cut off – not happy.

  27. john constantine

    if bitcoin is a currency—is the ‘most favoured ‘ status a digital currency that the abc can use to buy social engineering?.

    did the abc pay tony windsor in ‘abc bitcoin’ when they hero worshipped him on heavy rotation?. is the abc trying to bribe palmer in ‘abc bitcoin’ of whitewashing slips and an abscence of abc gotcha traps?.

    so the taxpayer gives public broadcasting 15 billion dollars a decade,and the abc turns real money into ‘abc bitcoin’ that only has a value to lefties,and can only be spent by lefties on leftie phantasies.how is that value for money?.

  28. Cold-Hands

    Sharri Markson gives an interesting insight into thinking within “The Australian” although her criticism of ABC Media Watch bias comes across as self-serving.

  29. james

    My leftie brother walked through the room during the segment on the media coverage of “MiM”.

    Says it was the first time he has ever agreed with Andrew Bolt. The contrast between coverage of anti Gillard and anti Abbott protests is just that stark.

  30. Gianna

    @ Mike of Marion
    Glad I’m not the only one re Lenore Taylor. Apart from the constant flow of what she thinks is her wisdom, the woman could do with a smile transplant!

  31. cuckoo

    Funny how, according to ABC, Abbott is now “being forced to defend” his decision to release intel about the items spotted in the Indian Ocean. And if he’d kept it quiet and ABC had found it out, he’d have been “forced to defend” that, too. In other news, there is still a civil war in Syria, and the building of the Tecoma McDonald’s is proceeding on schedule.

  32. Ant

    Pretty good Bolt program this morning.

    Frydenberg was solid, except for wanting to “ban” holocaust denial. What’s next? Banning AGW denial?

    Stupid, stupid, stupid. Any idiot who wants to deny the holocaust occurred should be allowed to make a total dick of themselves.

    Speaking of dicks, the Media Watch segment on Paul Barry was excellent.

  33. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    I was up but mostly busy. Will catch Bolt later. Insiders? Thanks to those who suffer for us.

  34. LordAzrael

    Given the lack of access the Insiders panel has within the government, shouldn’t it be renamed “Outsiders” ?

  35. Armadillo

    Hawker: “No incoming govt in 113 years has removed the Treasurer (sic).” Well maybe there is a bloody good reason the Treasury head was removed. Maybe, just maybe, he was that compromised or incompetent. Or both.

    LOL. But it’s quite alright to remove two elected sitting PM’s in a row, but removing the Treasury head (a contracted public servant appointed by the Previous Government) is beyond the pail? FMD, why didn’t they jump all over the dopey bastard?

  36. LordAzrael

    Totally agree with Ant. Much better to let morons voice their opinions so they can be ridiculed and belittled than make them into matyrs. Pre-Nazi Germany had some of the strongest anti-hate speech laws ever passed, and instead of stopping racism, it created conspiracy theories and allowed the Nazi’s to flourish as martyrs.

  37. Turtle of WA

    WA session begins.

  38. Gab

    Oh Turtle! I got all excited as I read that to be “WA secession begins”! Disappointment descended like a black velvet shroud upon re-reading that sentence.

  39. Toiling Mass

    Interesting to hear from Josh that there is to be two days dumping excess legislation – hopefully the second one (after the new senate and when the fallout from the RC starts to make Labor sweat) will focus more on IR.

    I wish he could hear himself defending a modified 18C. Most of the stuff he said he wanted outlawed was already covered under existing legislation – just with a presumption of innocence. But outlawing Holocaust denial? He doesn’t trust Australians to discuss such a topic and to deride someone who pushes stupid ideas?

  40. Aussieute

    The South state of failure is to continue on as it was

    $80m budget surplus now ~$800m defecit.
    Eat you hear out Wayne

    And these nongs want more of the same

  41. Turtle of WA

    Sorry Gab. I fully understand your disappointment.

  42. Toiling Mass

    Bolta revealed almost only in passing a gratifying belief – that grown ups debate. They don’t go charging straight to the law.

    I seriously think lefties believe that a society cannot function with a comprehensive legal apparatus that covers every aspect of social life. They can’t imagine a society of people which polices themsleves and only applies legal measures to the most egregious transgressions. They believe people are essentially evil and anti-social, and have to be coerced to good.

  43. Nic

    Did Cassidy even mention the pink batts inquiry to Wong? Fancy that .

  44. Toiling Mass

    I asked Peter Costello if I could get free Pink Batts, and he said no.

  45. John Comnenus

    How surprising. The LNP in SA win another thumping election but can’t form government. The only time the LNP has ousted the ALP in SA in a generation was with 61% 2PP. Joh Bjelke Weatherill’s ALP gets to form Government again despite losing another election.

    The LNP first order of business in the next SA Govt should be to call for a judicial review of the SA Electoral Commission. Put some pressure on the Independent.

  46. james

    While I approve of historical scepticism and the reviewing of historical perspectives as the passage of time goes by those who seriously claim that there was no concerted effort to kill Jews by the third Reich are a tiny fringe who pose no threat to anyone under any circumstances.

    Do influential people in the Jewish community think so little of us Gentiles that they assume we will sign up to such absurdities en masse if they are allowed to be talked about in the public square?

    If any leaders of a community I was a part of campaigned against free speech on such spurious grounds I would be looking for new leaders.

  47. tomix

    Armenian Genocide? It’s all political, according to Haaretz [ May 2010]. link

  48. Poseidon

    No wonder South Australia is in the mess its in, its always governed by a bunch of losers.

  49. Perth Trader

    James. I agree with your points but I think being free to discuss the numbers of people who died , how they died and where they died during the holocaust should be able to be discussed. Even these 3 points seem to be taboo .

  50. thefrollickingmole

    I agree with the sentiments above regarding holocaust denial, far better to have them open their yaps and be proven fools (over and over again) than to let them cloak themselves as “dangerous outsiders”.

    I think a lot of the calls to ban “wrongthink” of any sort is down to laziness on the part of those in the right. Yes you may have all the facts/etc on your side but you do still have to go out and repeat them again, and again, and again…

    This is a major failing of the Liberal/right side of politics.
    Yes its obvious Communism kills and impoverishes, its obvious that you cant borrow and spend forever, its obvious you cant tax your way to prosperity.
    We have hundreds of years of people trying to do all those things, and real life, on the ground failures everywhere.

    Yet the siren call of socialism (in its many forms) still attracts millions.
    The “right” cant dismiss them as idiots (though some are), it has to instead repeat the same data, the same old arguments over and over again, because thats exactly what the “enemies” do, because thats all they have, theories and excuses.

    You have to argue, and it will be repetitive, and no in a logical world you shouldnt have to… But guess what?

  51. Ant

    On TBR I could see a link between Josh’s deregulation initiatives and the Pink Batt scandal and it’s to do with Occupational Health and Safety.

    In my line of business, as a consultant in the construction industry, if my firm was to knowingly design a building which was going to put people’s lives at risk and then people actually died in that building because of a faulty design and we knew it was potentially lethal, had received professional advice that said as much plus recommendations that it not proceed but we did it anyway, we would be financially destroyed and probably end up in jail – and rightly so.

    There is an OHS Act in Victoria which puts us through the ringer and imposes a sizeable overhead on our operations applying to every single thing that we do.

    So why isn’t Kevin Rudd and Peter Garrett and all those other geniuses who pushed this crazy, wasteful and destructive scheme not on trial for gross negligence leading to death?

  52. Ripper

    PT
    #1235572, posted on March 23, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Why can’t I deny the Holocaust if I want to?

    Exactly, that is not far removed from fatwa’s for abusing the koran. No place for either.

  53. tomix


    So why isn’t Kevin Rudd and Peter Garrett and all those other geniuses who pushed this crazy, wasteful and destructive scheme not on trial for gross negligence leading to death?


    Who were the lobbyists pushing the idea onto Costello and Rudd – and why? Couldn’t have been representing the Insulation industry. It’s been destroyed – who will pay for Home Insulation when it’s free from the gummint?

  54. JaneS

    It’s official. South Australia is the new Tasmania.

  55. Shelley

    Just watched the 4.30 Bolt report, Peter Costello not happy. He made some good points but got cut off too many times. Bruce Hawker – what a has been! Why does Andrew persist with him?

  56. JC

    Why does Andrew persist with him?

    He’s a token and a great door mat people can use to clean their shoes with.

  57. Habib

    After the examples of Oakshott and Windsor, among a litany of other sleazy, ambitious mongs, what sort of hillbilly mutant votes for an “independent” in a rural electorate? They’re invariably some drooling retard or a borderline sociopath with a pathological hatred for the Liberal/National party, which found they didn’t even measure up to their rather parlous standards.

    When Labor offers them a sling, they’re quicker on the draw than Oscar Pistorius. The electorate then bitches and moans about betrayal, elect an LNP member next time, then get suckered a few years later by another bombastic con artist. In the meantime the maggot who leapt at self interest retired on ministerial level pension, with every sinecure, dodgy rezoning and blatant bribe they can trouser.

    Democracy is dreadful, the alternatives worse. The Libs need to take the electoral commission to court on this one, it’s verging on fraud or malfeasance.

  58. Shelley

    What Habib said. The Libs had better move against the AEC on this or they will never, never be in government in this bloody State. 53% of the vote and they can’t govern?? Urrgghh.

  59. JC

    Habbib

    The Liars Party and Brock have no legitimacy to govern and should be treated as such. The Libs should not show up to parliament unless the gerrymander is eliminated and new elections held. The federal government also should not recognize this government and withhold funding until this happens.

  60. wazsah

    I like the way the ABC avoid mentioning the likely 2PP ~53% that the Liberals have won. “SA election: Labor to form minority government with support of independent Geoff Brock”
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-23/sa-to-form-minority-labor-government/5339398
    I also recall Weatherill’s propaganda on election night – “the Liberals wasted too much money/electioneering on their safe seats” -
    With hindsight anybody can see they would not do the exact same things again if granted a rerun.
    I hope the Feds take every opportunity to hold the Weatherill Govt to account.

  61. Shelley

    Just watched Brock at the press conference. The guy can’t even speak properly! Weatherill will not remain Premier, he is soon to be rolled by all account.

    People get stuck into Steven Marshall (and the SA Libs generally) but they run a good campaign, and they absolutely focussed on the marginals. Their policies were released and publicly available, and written so even the simpletons could understand them. As for the costings, well they can’t possibly know the true state of the budget from opposition, but they would have made a pretty educated guess and factored that in. Small and medium businesses are going to go bust even more than they have to date. So many empty shops with ‘for lease’ all over metro Adelaide, and in many of the regional towns. It will be interesting to see what Brock does as Regional Development Minister – especially about some of the contentious issues like the ridiculous hike in native vegetation offset levy and the NRM levies – these are huge issues for the regional farming community.

  62. Habib

    If the guv’nor grants a commission they’re legit. Cat-pigeons there though, despite being a Labor appointee, he’s not the usual maaate, in fact a retired RADM pusser, an unusual appointment. Mind you Russ Crane turned out to be a warmy ratbag when he retired, don’t know about Scarce RANR. He may show some integrity.

  63. JC

    If the guv’nor grants a commission they’re legit.

    No they aren’t. They lost the election. According to your assertion the governor has free rein to choose who he likes ignoring a fairly material size of the vote highlighting popular will.

  64. Tator

    Aussieute,
    most of us croweaters voted to get rid of the ALP, we got over 53% of the TPP but have been screwed over by the ECSA and some incompetence in the State Liberal Party who signed off on it during a period of time where leadership was an issue in the party.
    Now for a perspective on the vote, the Liberal Party got 44.8% of the primary vote and ended up with 53% of the TPP.
    The problem has been in seats like Ashford where the primary vote was 43.1% to the Libs and 39.7% to the ALP who relied on the Greenfilth to get them over the line on preferences and the ALP candidate got over the line by 820 votes. Even in seats like Hartley where the Lib candidate got 47.3% of the TPP, still only got 52.4% of the TPP due to the Greenfilths preferences backstopping the ALP vote.
    Also in the two independents seats, the Libs polled 35% as a primary compared to 11.3% and 17% for the ALP, yet the muppet Brock has supported the ALP, go figure when every single way you look at the voting patterns of the state show that the state as a whole wants the Liberals in. One comment which might be on the money for his reasoning is that he is going to be 68 in 2018 and probably going to run away Windsor style with his parliamentary super after 2 1/2 terms and retire.
    Shelley, it is the Electoral Commission of SA which is the parallel of the AEC for the state which is at fault, Chris Kenny nails it in one in his article in the Adelaide Sunday Mail.

  65. Shelley

    Ah dammit, I am not going to worry about it anymore now. A nice single malt will dull the pain.

  66. Habib

    Right or wrong, that’s how the constitution works. Governors have little real power, which is why all local, state and federal governments should be subject to recall provisions, which are impossible to gerrymander.

    It’s that or park an M1A1 in the driveway of parliament and government house, pointing inward. A lot cheaper and quicker, but a little too ethnic for my tastes.

  67. entropy

    The outcome is yet another demonstration why fixed terms, and four year terms in particular, should not be contemplated.
    I actually used to be a fan, I stupidly thought it might reduce politicking. I admit I was wrong. Fixed, four year terms actually reduce accountability.

  68. Rabz

    The Libs need to take the electoral commission to court on this one, it’s verging on fraud or malfeasance.

    This times eleventy.

    Enough.

  69. johanna

    As I have said elsewhere, the AEC is the place that people who other Departments can’t even trust to open the mail (and how right they were) are sent.

    We have just had an absolute fiasco in WA, meaning that another election has to be held. Now, we have this travesty (just one in a series) in SA.

    Instead of Sarah-Sea-Patrol and her pals staging show trials, surely it’s time for a proper inquiry into the AEC, which is demonstrably incompetent at best.

  70. JC

    Habib

    At what level of the 2PP vote would you say it’s illegitimate for a party to be commissioned by the Governor? 55%? 60%? 70%.

  71. Shelley

    Yeah thanks Tator, I was meaning the SAAEC, even though I wrote AEC. That Mousley (? spelling) woman.

  72. Fisky

    After the examples of Oakshott and Windsor, among a litany of other sleazy, ambitious mongs, what sort of hillbilly mutant votes for an “independent” in a rural electorate? They’re invariably some drooling retard or a borderline sociopath with a pathological hatred for the Liberal/National party, which found they didn’t even measure up to their rather parlous standards.

    It’s an ego trip on the electors’ part. They’re obsessed with making these big statements about their independence, “showing those city folk”, etc.

  73. Habib

    Not my call, the constitution basically says that if a party can lob following an election and guarantee a vote on the floor to maintain supply and confidence, the governor is bound to grant a commission. As to this being right, I think great sweaty bollocks. It’d take a referendum to amend the constition making any mandate with a 2PP voite of 50% or less invalid, it’d probably get up, but name any party in minority government that’d put it up. Their survival instinct makes cockroaches look like lemmings in comparison.

  74. JC

    Yes but at what point would you say the governor’s commission doesn’t offer any legitimacy?

  75. Shelley

    And on the same theme but going to the WA Senate balls up. I don’t understand why the race isn’t being run as it was in September, why are new micro parties allowed to run?

  76. Habib

    My view anything less than 50% of the primary, particularly if the other crew polled higher. The proliferation of supposed independents has created a whole new problem, as if the most inept, half-witted, corrupt, atavistic pack of brigands manages to convince enough of these dolts and thieves to jump on board, they have the requisite number of votes and seats. (Refer 2010 for further information).

    I’d prefer a recall provision to giving state and commonwealth governors further powers, most are appointed by the aforementioned brigands so they’re unlikely to croak their own personal golden goose. If enough of the electorate is pissed off we can give these pillocks the arse- they are after all our employees.

  77. JC

    Oh look here, Tony Windsor is offering free advice to Brock. One treacherous bastard helps another on Twitter.

    Tony Windsor ‏@TonyHWindsor 4h

    My advice to Geoff Brock is to avoid where possibly the use of News Ltd paper He should use Sorbent It records what actually occurs

    And then me.

    jc ‏
    @TonyHWindsor LOl.. The most hated and despised former politician offering advise to another treacherous bastard about News LTD.You dickhead

    jc

    @TonyHWindsor Hey Tony, you could help Brock find a land with coal on it, then sell it to a coal company and then oppose coal mining.

    jc

    @TonyHWindsor You’d know about shit, Windsor. It’s your DNA.

    Windsor seems to have an obsession about shit and arses, doesn’t he.

  78. johanna

    Suggestions that unelected Governors appointed by previous governments should be able to overrule elections are remarkably short-sighted.

  79. Tom

    I didn’t believe it, so I looked up Windsor’s Twitter account. He actually said that. I am actually astonished that he managed to conceal that he has the mentality of a retarded teenage Greenfilth activist for so long, even though he sold his soul to Big Coal.

  80. Delta A

    Brock has sided with Weatherill for the sake of ‘stability’.* The alternative was a second election, something he wouldn’t want because his conservative electorate would have dumped him, rather than risk exactly what has happened.

    * Stability: ministerial position in return for sucking up to the liars. A term closely related to political prostitution.

  81. Shelley

    Tom, me too. I thought surely he didn’t say that, but yep he did. Unbelievable.

  82. Fisky

    Here’s more class from Tony Windsor. He’s a real card, that guy –

    Tony Windsor @TonyHWindsor · Dec 12
    @McGilverysPtyLt. For a man with a girls name perhaps u should show discretion with the term wanker or is it something that’s on your mind

    ReplyReplied to 6 times6 RetweetRetweeted 1 time1 FavoriteFavorited 2 times2
    More

  83. stackja

    Delta A
    #1235956, posted on March 23, 2014 at 6:34 pm
    Brock has sided with Weatherill for the sake of ‘stability’.* The alternative was a second election, something he wouldn’t want because his conservative electorate would have dumped him, rather than risk exactly what has happened.
    * Stability: ministerial position in return for sucking up to the liars. A term closely related to political prostitution.

    Sky says ‘Labor trumps Libs on backroom politics’ So if Libs do a deal it is wrong but ALP is right.

  84. john constantine

    the abc rural department exists to marginalise regional australia,and hammer the profile of ‘rural independants’ at any opportunity.

    victorian regional abc gave sophie mirrabellas unremarkable opponent priceless airtime and importance during the election campaign.dropped her since the election,but the abc’s work was done. relentless abc ‘gotchas’ nibbling away at supposedly safe tory seats in rural australia also costs the coalition time and treasure sandbagging their defences against abc white anting.it might not be free and fair reporting,but it is close enough for leftie government work.

  85. entropy

    Yeah look at the ABC Rural website and a quick glance at features tells you it is a vehicle for preaching, not designed for actually reporting on things rural types would like to know about.

  86. Snoopy

    It;s time for Abbott to announce that the Collins sub replacement will be the US Navy’s Virginia Class nuclear-powered attack submarine. Built in the US with a refit facility to be located in WA.

  87. feelthebern

    Poor old Alf.
    He can’t count.
    He certainly can’t think – as he’s previously admitted to parroting the views of others blindly on the matter of global warming.
    Listen Alf, you are the most dim witted of all the trolls that hit this site.
    So how many times does a Q&A panel or an Insiders couch haves a majority of conservative (or at least centrist) panelists?
    Never.
    So you are either happy with the bias, or you are too dumb to see & hear it.
    Either way, fuck off back to the government teat you no doubt suckle upon & let the adults talk about issues.
    Actually, I take that back.
    Stick around & hopefully you will be educated.

  88. Alfonso

    Sigh….Josh is just another youngster with plans for our collective good decided by his personally approved green band of speech. See H hyphen Y.
    Another Holocaust speech proscriber for his own subjective ‘good reasons’.
    The left recognise his BS mo immediately.

    Let the Jew haters look like the wankers they are by saying what they wish outside defamation, threat and incitement……and being rubbished for same.

  89. Nuffy

    Snoopy

    Whilst it would send a message that we are serious in the region, nearly 3B a head, god knows how much more in dedicated infrastructure and crewing issues up the wazoo due to a massive ships company means its a pipe dream at best.

  90. Delta A

    I should have expected this electoral outcome here in SA. After all, we had a practice run four years ago. But knowing that our sentence to terminal Labor is solely due to an inarticulate, hypocritical little independent redneck is more than I can face at the moment.

    Scoff at SA and lay blame where you will. But keep in mind that the majority of the people have, yet again (and again, and again) voted for the LNP. It’s too depressing!

    Thanks to JC, Habib, Tom, Fisky and all for your take on it all. You express my thoughts exactly, but far more eloquently than I can. I’ll leave you to it for a while. I am too distraught to participate in discusson of this farce.

  91. Leigh Lowe

    Weatherill gave the finger to Don Farrell thinking he was going to loose.
    Now he is hoping to govern with the support of John-boy Walton and Jed Clampett, with Farrell chipping the ground from under him at every turn.
    I don’t think it will be a fuck-up at all.

  92. Farmer Gez

    The real question regarding the South Australian election is, exactly what percentage of the TPP vote would NLP need to gain a real majority as the boundaries stand? Is it 54%, 55%, 56% or higher? The AEC should be asked to provide a figure and then justify the current boundaries.

  93. nerblnob

    James

    If any leaders of a community I was a part of campaigned against free speech on such spurious grounds I would be looking for new leaders

    But most people aren’t looking for leaders at all. These “community leaders” and spokesmen/women are invariably self-appointed or appointed by small committees of obsessive bores.

  94. Alf

    Thanks feelthebern. That’s quite a response to a few words and a link. Accepting the view of experts in an area that I am not trained in is hardly parroting blindly. I guess this flaw only applies to the left, no one on this site accepts the content of any piece that they haven’t written themselves? I don’t often watch either Q&A or Insiders for some of the same reasons as people here. But when I have seen Insiders in particular it seems to be usually a couple of journos and an opinion writer. Most of the journos I have seen on it, I recall, were quite happy to run stories critical of the former govt. and to speak critically of them on the show. I get the impression a lot of the people in these threads would only be happy if the ABC ran stories that adhere with their every belief – anything else seems to be considered bias.

    Poor old Alf.
    He can’t count.
    He certainly can’t think – as he’s previously admitted to parroting the views of others blindly on the matter of global warming.
    Listen Alf, you are the most dim witted of all the trolls that hit this site.
    So how many times does a Q&A panel or an Insiders couch haves a majority of conservative (or at least centrist) panelists?
    Never.
    So you are either happy with the bias, or you are too dumb to see & hear it.
    Either way, fuck off back to the government teat you no doubt suckle upon & let the adults talk about issues.
    Actually, I take that back.
    Stick around & hopefully you will be educated.

  95. Snoopy

    Nuffy, I’d prefer 3 Virginia class subs rather than 5 or 6 Slabor made Collins Mk II’s.

  96. candy

    I get the impression a lot of the people in these threads would only be happy if the ABC ran stories that adhere with their every belief – anything else seems to be considered bias.

    Alf, you may have a point – we all see things the way we need to see them!

    But I would love to see the host or panelist of Insiders/Q & A say, something like PM Abbott is doing a good job or a particular policy meets with their approval.

    One day – I live in hope they will see something they like in the current government.

  97. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Snoopy, what do the American subs need as crew, as opposed to the Collins class?

  98. Nic

    Alf, it’s not just what they say/talk about , it’s the things they don’t discuss . Face it, over 50% of voters voted for a right of centre party. Surely their viewpoints should also be addressed by a public broadcaster .

  99. Billy the Kidder

    To quote Sammy Newman, “Adelaide is proof that Tasmanians can swim”.

    I sense a rage will rise amongst the people about the independent yet again ignoring the will of his electorate. Bye-Bye sweetums, next election you’ll be toast.

  100. Alf

    But I would love to see the host or panelist of Insiders/Q & A say, something like PM Abbott is doing a good job or a particular policy meets with their approval.

    I’m sure if he ever does, they’ll be there to report it.

  101. Armadillo

    I get the impression a lot of the people in these threads would only be happy if the ABC ran stories that adhere with their every belief – anything else seems to be considered bias.

    No Alf. People here just want the bastards to report the news, sport and weather like they used to – and to be on the same side as all Australians. The weather girl, the cricket commentator and the boring old fart who used to read the news can stay. The rest can fuck off. We are sick of paying for political/ideological brainwashing (from either side).

  102. Alf

    Gab, I was being tongue in cheek, obviously. But, it’s not their job to place a judgement on whether he’s doing a good job or a bad one, but they do have commentators/opinion writers who say that he’s doing a good job very regularly, and others who say he isn’t. Supporting the Govt. is not their job, reporting on what it says and does is – the rest, rightly, is up to those they speak to.

  103. Gab

    Why are you mentioning my name? I don’t believe I have directed any comment to you.

  104. Armadillo

    Alf, it’s not just what they say/talk about , it’s the things they don’t discuss

    Alf, in other words, they talk about shit no one gives a crap about. Gay marriage being the prime example.

  105. candy

    I’m sure if he ever does, they’ll be there to report it.

    Alf, just one thing – Mr Abbott is committed to closing the gap. His policies are directed towards betterment in conditions re health/education in relation to indigenous people.

    Surely, that is one that that Q&A/Insiders could say – our PM has his heart is in the right place there.

  106. Armadillo

    Oh…and the Bananas can stay. At least they keep their mouths shut (but all that hand holding is a bit disconcerting). Rabz will be along any minute to disagree, but hey, a diversity of opinions eh?

  107. Monkey's Uncle

    The point about the South Australian election result is that South Australia, uniquely by comparison to other states and the federal situation, has a law that requires the electoral commission to draw up boundaries in such a way as to maximise the chances that the party that wins a majority of the two-party preferred vote also wins a majority of the seats. And yet we now have a situation where Labor has won office twice in a row (and in three of the last four state elections) despite losing the 2PP vote. To my knowledge this has not happened in a long time anywhere in Australia.

    After the 2010 election result the South Australian Electoral Commission clearly should have more substantially redrawn the boundaries in the Liberals favour. Had they done so, the Liberals would almost certainly have won this time around.

    Effectively the Liberals have been deprived of office due to the failure of the SA electoral commission to properly apply the law in South Australia.

  108. M Ryutin

    For all those who hate all the ads on the Bolt show, don’t. Not only are more ads the best chance such a show will remain on TV because it shows that there must be audience drawing power by the content (and the extension of time to one hour is another good sign), but why on earth does everyone watch live anyway? Unless something immediate is happening I seem to always record shows and watch to F/F all ads anyway. Its not as if shows like the Bolt Report aren’t just as timely viewed a half hour later or that anything else earth shattering comes on immediately it has finished.

  109. Alf

    Why are you mentioning my name? I don’t believe I have directed any comment to you.

    You’re right, my apologies, it was Candy. It’s been a real long day.

    And Candy, I’m sure I have heard statements to that effect on the ABC.

  110. politichix

    Foxtel IQ is the cats pyjamas! I never watch anything live except when I have Sky burbling on in the background during the day. Even if I’ve caught a program live I’ll pause and go organise the sock draw so I can then fast forward through the ads.

  111. Ripper

    For all those who hate all the ads on the Bolt show,

    I said to my Fav Wife that CH10 must be loving bolt as the show was so choka with ads.

    Market forces :)

  112. JohnA

    Ant #1235781, posted on March 23, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    On TBR I could see a link between Josh’s deregulation initiatives and the Pink Batt scandal and it’s to do with Occupational Health and Safety.

    In my line of business, as a consultant in the construction industry, if my firm was to knowingly design a building which was going to put people’s lives at risk and then people actually died in that building because of a faulty design and we knew it was potentially lethal, had received professional advice that said as much plus recommendations that it not proceed but we did it anyway, we would be financially destroyed and probably end up in jail – and rightly so.

    Well, yes, but some regulations are too silly, and over-regulation is a waste.

    Do you recall the EA Watts Construction Company? And do you recall that the company died because of one project failure – the MMBW HQ in Lt Collins St, where some granite slabs fell off the building, endangering passers-by, staff, Uncle Tom Cobbly and all?

    There were none of the OHS regs of today to protect people, but the company still suffered the due penalty for failure to do a job properly.

    By contrast there are lots of small projects where the design fault doesn’t lead to danger, but does lead to inefficiency and extra expense (eg. future maintenance of a complex roof shape).

    For example, today I saw a building erected in the 1980s where the construction design called for “three-quarter” brick-laying, ie the bricks were not set half/half over the bricks below (evenly), but quarter/three quarter. The brickies said that the design would limit the load-bearing capacity of the upper storey. Architect said basically “My way or the highway, mate!” And today the upper level is still having trouble supporting the roof.

    That should be dealt with as a civil claim by the owner against the builder/architect, not by the dead hand of some “gummint” creating a great pile of regulations.

  113. Armadillo

    but why on earth does everyone watch live anyway

    Don’t see why he needs to do it all live actually. It would ‘smooth out’ some of those rough edges like cutting people off in the media watch section. Those bits should be pre-recorded. The political discussion should be live though.

  114. politichix

    Draw should be drawer oops

  115. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Caught up with Bolt’s program later today.

    What a pleasure to hear him tearing into the outright hypocrisy of the media regarding the obscene and dangerous placards and incitement to kill used on that March against Nothing and Everything. The mainstream media ignored these placards and threats, while going spare over a couple of much less offensive placards (and no threats) at the anti-carbon-tax rally in Canberra.

    Bolt did a very good outrage on this.

  116. Tintarella di Luna

    Now all is quiet at the Lunarscape I might be able to catch up with Bolt, Ranciders was replayed by the returning Sunbather I put my headphones to drown out the sourness of Ms Vinegar-Tits who keeps holding her arms apart as if to ask is this how big my bum looks on this couch? Insufferable bint.

    On that note I will say Ciao and buona notte

  117. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Caught up with Bolt now. What a good job he did showing outrage at how the placards, and threats to kill, at the March against Everything and Nothing didn’t excite the attention of the MSM, while a few placards about a ‘witch’ and ‘bitch’ had them going spare when the issue was the carbon tax.

    More ads, more Bolt. Keep them rolling.

  118. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Buona notte, Tinta. Me for bed too. Just look at the time, and I am dancing in the morning.

  119. Tintarella di Luna

    Lucky you Lizzie B I’m courting in the morning, in a civil way, I hope people see sense

  120. Shauno

    Regarding the Virginia class subs. The good thing about these is we wouldn’t necessarily have to buy them we get them on long term lease 25 years and swap them out out when the Nuke fuel needs to be replaced. Also the US navy could help out with manning them if we couldn’t find enough people to man them given we cant even man the much smaller Collins class subs. Nukes are far better for a Nation with as much ocean to cover as Australia has and it would freak out the the Chinese if we had a few of those things wandering around.

  121. Beertruk

    Do influential people in the Jewish community think so little of us Gentiles that they assume we will sign up to such absurdities en masse if they are allowed to be talked about in the public square?

    Bloody good point, James.

    If any leaders of a community I was a part of campaigned against free speech on such spurious grounds I would be looking for new leaders.

    Same, same.

  122. Combine_Dave

    Why can’t I deny the Holocaust if I want to?

    Why not indeed. You are allowed to deny other tragedies from history, why not this one. Or should we add Korean Comfort Women and all other horror events to our list of banned denials as doing so would undoutably cause offense to some?

  123. Rabz

    OK, OK, I’ll record Bolt and zap out the ads.

    Just thought I’d give it a go live yesterday morning – should have realised it was a no no, given how much I hate commercial FTA TV.

  124. pete m

    Rabz – Bolt also places the videos online, so you can just watch the bit you want.

    ps no-one seems to have mentioned G Hendo last minute comment, about the Greens and socialist alliance not taking to the streets to protest Russia’s invasion of the Crimea, noting if it was the US we’d see differently. Hypocrits. Of course Barry just sat there thinking why do I have him on, while I PML at him.

    Well done Hendo.

  125. Rabz

    Bolt also places the videos online, so you can just watch the bit you want.

    I was just watching them then, Pete!

  126. Grigory M

    Insiders – Bolt. Only 132 comments (well, 133 now) says it all. Riveting stuff, in both cases. Ho fucking hum.

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