Kale Smoothie versus Bundy and Coke

To quote that literary genius, Yogi Berra, I think the Labor Party has come to a fork in the road and is about to take it.

Of course, there are likely to be some gains from a divorce between the unions and the ALP, although not for the union officials seeking employment in the sheltered workshops in the upper houses of the various parliaments.

There may also be some losses, particularly in terms of connection with real working people with socially conservative views (Nick Cater’s point).

Don’t be fooled that there is much substance to a rule change that loosens the union membership requirement for belonging to the ALP. Completely minor stuff.

The real issue, in my view, is that the membership is likely to be much more inner-city, university educated, public sector employed with radical social views.  Some of the unions, at least, keep the party closer to the mainstream. Here are some points of difference between the two segments:

  • Fitzroy v Cranbourne – Glebe v Sylvania Waters;
  • Kale smoothie v Bundy and Coke (or local beer, eg. VB, Tooheys, XXXX, etc.);
  • Quinoi patties with side of heritage tomatoes and aged Balsamic v Steak and snags on the barbie (don’t forget the Rosella tomato sauce);
  • Fair trade double shot espresso v Mug of capuccino from Maccas (special treat) or Farmers’ Union Iced Coffee;
  • Hand made loafers from soft leather (a vegan concession) v steel capped boots;
  • Alliance Francais lessons for the four years olds v Aus Kick down at the local oval;
  • Second hand fan v whole house airconditioning, industrial size;
  • Gambling is evil v a flutter on the TAB, no harm there;
  • Smoking is evil v what’s happening to the price of fags?;
  • Marriage equality now v I can’t understand all this stuff, I think I disagree;
  • More asylum seekers now v Aussie jobs for Aussie workers;
  • Climate change action now v Our electricity bill is going through the roof.

And the list goes on – come on, Cats, you know you can add to the list.

But the real issue is that these two divergent groups have nothing in common and of course the inner-city trendies look down their noses (rhinoplasty only if necessary) and sneer at their fellow citizens living in their large houses in Cranbourne.

The Labor Party can please one group only by disaffecting the other.  And that is the dilemma – there is no middle ground.  And electorally speaking, there are not enough kale munchers to allow the Labor Party to win office.  Moreover, the fair trade set are increasingly likely to swing to the Greens.

But here’s the dilemma: handing more power to the membership is likely to throw up more candidates with inner-city values which alienate a lot of voters.

(Just on the issue of nearly 50 per cent of federal Labor politicians being ex-union officials, a distinction has to be made from previous times.  These people have generally never worked in the occupation which the union represents, with the possible exception of teachers and nurses.  For them, the union is just a convenient stepping stone to a parliamentary career, having completed some soft university degree.  Mind you, I’m not sure this arrangement is actually helpful to the unions or for retaining membership numbers.  At least Ben Chifley did actually drive trains.)

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246 Responses to Kale Smoothie versus Bundy and Coke

  1. pete m

    Terrace apartment v McMansion/suburbia.
    No car, bike only v V8s

  2. Rabz

    ALPBC viewers/listeners V Foxtel/fat Kyle & that bimbo

  3. Docket62

    V8 Ute versus 1994 BMW

  4. Docket62

    Jet ski versus …… Will there isn’t one is there. When do creepy, pale skinned fitzrovian lizards ever venture to a beach and in what alternate universe would they a. Enter the water, b. Expose their skin to sunlight or c. Ride a fuel powered water based motorcycle….

  5. entropy

    I think it is the unions that are corrupted due to affiliation with the ALP.
    The kind of tool that gets active in university politics aligns themselves with a faction of the ALP, which then finds a union job for them for a few years before they are given their factionally aligned seat in politics.
    The union is nothing more than a holding slot to avoid the appearance of the pleb getting a safe seat straight out of nappies. The needs of the union members are not relevant or any particular interest to people like this, who never grow up from the issues that excite student union politics. Their interests are their ALP faction’s.

  6. Carpe Jugulum

    What the hell is a ‘kale smoothie’?

  7. steve

    Smug sanctimony versus political indifference

  8. Judith Sloan

    Carpe, get with the program.

  9. Bear Necessities

    Green Left Weekly vs The Picture

  10. Bear Necessities

    Lady Ga Ga vs XXXX Angels

  11. ar

    Fixie bike vs 10 year old Falcon.

  12. Bear Necessities

    Chaser Boys vs Rodney Rude

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Unobtrusive TV vs. Home Theatre in McMansion
    Proud Recipe Cooks vs Ready-Made Salads from Woolies
    Push Mower vs Big Ride-On Mower
    Small Tasteful Christmas Presents vs A Big Haul of Loot for Everyone
    Toyota Prius vs Big Four-Wheel Drive for the Team
    Never Drunken vs Singing at Midnight

    If our beach house qualifies as a McMansion, then we’re in. Trending Bogan. :)
    (Sadly I don’t think it qualifies; too much rattan and ‘distressed’ look whitewashed and ‘French Provincial’ furniture; what’s wrong with paint? asks my far more Bogan sister).

  14. Bear Necessities

    Tim Flannery vs Chuck Norris

  15. Joe Goodacre

    Interesting article Judith.

    It’s possible that down the road, Liberals and Labor will find common ground in social conservatism and a compromise with unions that allows them, but prevents them from becoming militant in an attempt to defend against ocial progressives/the Greens.

  16. Pickles

    Left hand thread v Right hand thread

  17. Ripper

    The Conversation vs Andrew Bolt

  18. nerblnob

    The unions don’t represent the “working class” so much anyway. Most unionists are public servants.

  19. Mike of Marion

    Catallaxy vs The World

  20. Peter

    So if Labor lurches to the left, who will fill the vacuum?

    F the Coalition comes left to pick up disaffected Labor voters, will that create space for a serious Conservative party?

  21. nerblnob

    Enthusiasm about “diversity” vs actual migrant communities

  22. Pickles

    Chaps in fishnets v Chaps fishing with nets

  23. Ripper

    Malven Star vs Harley Davidson

  24. Tiny Dancer

    Sodomy v Indecent Dealing

  25. Mater

    Dreadlocks versus Mullet?

  26. whyisitso

    The unions don’t represent the “working class” so much anyway. Most unionists are public servants.

    Priceless. Give that one first prize.

  27. Leigh Lowe

    Chaps in fishnets v Chaps fishing with nets

    Sadly, in some parts of the country, it is only the latter which is illegal.

  28. A Lurker

    Western civilization loathing alternative arts festival Vs Australia Day at the beach complete with esky, temporary flag-tatts, and towel-flag draped around the sun-bronzed shoulders.

  29. Beef

    The unions don’t represent the “working class” so much anyway. Most unionists are public servants serpents.

    Fixed nerblblob

  30. Pickles

    Hand in hand moonlit walks on the beach v Get off your arse, grab a six pack and give me a hand to check the crab pots you fat bastard.

  31. A Lurker

    It’s possible that down the road, Liberals and Labor will find common ground in social conservatism

    The Socially Conservative Right flank of Labor pulls away and allies with the DLP?

  32. Beef

    Tighty whiteys v Boxers

  33. Boambee John

    Kim Beazley Senior – Truly a prophet without honour in his own party.

    Ditch the tertiary educated, publicly employed, never worked in a job covered by the union of which they were secretary, dregs of the middle class, send them to their true spiritual (in both the religious and political senses) home in the greenslime. Then let the actual labouring classes have their party back.

    It won’t have enough votes to form government in its own right, but it will have a solid base of seats in parliament, and much in common with the Coalition (jobs, industry, national security). It could deal with them more easily than it could the greenslime that will pick up the rejects.

  34. Token

    To quote that literary genius, Yogi Berra, I think the Labor Party has come to a fork in the road and is about to take it.

    Why do people buy into the spin from the Labor Party?

    A hunderd articles _talking about_ change means nothing if the organisation _does not implement_ change.

    This is an organisation which in opposition masters the language it needs to parrot to get into government, where upon being elected it discards the rhetoric and returns to gouging the public for the unions & its crony-capitalist mates. Need I mention the “fiscal conservatives” Rudd, Gillard, Bracks, Brumby and the Vic opposition leader Andrews?

  35. Kingsley

    Probably politically good news for Libs as will force ALP to form coalition/alliance with the Greens … and we’ve seen how well that works.

  36. lotocoti

    Trekking Nepal vs trekking Kokoda.

  37. Pickles

    Drilling for Vegemite v Drilling for CSG

  38. Token

    Kim Beazley Senior – Truly a prophet without honour in his own party.

    What is not often mentioned is that for the ALP to get a handle on the racist elements of their movement and to allow it to finally discard the White Australia Policy which for so long what Americans call “the third rail” of Labor politics, it had to reduce the influence of that nasty section of its base.

    Of course as it is the Labor party, instead of shedding the racism & nastiness and keeping the homespun working class common sense, it she the sensible working class and found new ways to be just as malignant. Unfortunately the nasty people it embraced instead has helped the party lose its purpose and left it to mouth empty platitudes.

  39. Token

    ALPBC viewers/listeners V Foxtel/fat Kyle & that bimbo

    A discrimination case to get the ALPBC in the parliament gym v sharing the TV and allowing Foxtel to be shown

  40. Supplice

    I think Pickles takes the prize.
    So, basically this is thr end oc the Labor party. If they go further left then they become electoral poison. If they move towards centre (and inertia is against them) then the royal commission will put all those folk into the klink. If Clive Palmer doesn’t chuck it in I could see disaffected blue collar types rushing to him. Also the perfect chance for the DLP to stand up and make noise. “We like everything that you like! Low taxes! Legal weed! The Man not bugging you!” etc.

  41. Baldrick

    Double Organic Ristretto Venti, Rainforest Alliance certified, Half-Soy gluten free, Nonfat Decaf, Organic Chocolate, Brownie Iced Vanilla, Double-Shot Gingerbread, Frappuccino, Extra Hot With Foam, Whipped Cream, Upside Down Double Blended, One Sweet’N Low and One Nutrasweet, and Ice, with a twist of lemon -v- a cup of International Roast.

  42. Joe Goodacre

    child pornography vs art

  43. Token

    A dance party at the T20 v Test Cricket

  44. Mater

    Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union vs Conservation, Feminism, Marriage Equality and UNITED NATIONS.

  45. Roger

    Louise Pratt vs Joe Bullock.

  46. Ellen of Tasmania

    This is an organisation which in opposition masters the language it needs to parrot to get into government

    Whatever it takes. That’s what they’ll do say they’ll do.

  47. Joe Goodacre

    divorce vs decoupling

  48. Cam

    A fair trade pig/goat/poo in lieu of a Christmas present v big pile of gifts that have been on lay buy since June sales.

  49. Infidel Tiger

    Arts Grant/Social Security Rort.

    Scum/Scum

  50. Joe Goodacre

    Correction – divorce vs conscious uncoupling

  51. Roger

    6PM: Grand Designs vs Ch9 news.

  52. Toiling Mass

    Condescending tittering versus good earthy belly-laughs.

  53. Toiling Mass

    Also, fury versus annoyance.

    Seriously, how many people get as stridently outraged and sustainedly shrill about anything as an inner-city elite gets about everything.

  54. Gab

    Vagina knitting v Rembrandt.

  55. Combine_Dave

    The unions don’t represent the “working class” so much anyway. Most unionists are public servants.

    Public servants vs the tax paying public.

  56. Gab

    Dancers empty their bowels as part of a performance at the Australian Centre for Contemporary Art v Swan Lake.

  57. Beef

    Tree huggers v tree loppers

  58. Token

    Union Members from the Public Service v Union Members frmo the Wealth Creating Industries

  59. Ant

    Die Hard vs Don’s Party

  60. Baldrick

    Rapid, forward-deployed, leftard-enhanced, Joint Task Force, Twitter strike-shield -v- robust diplomacy.

  61. Ant

    Drilling for Vegemite v Drilling for CSG

    Hat’s off to Pickles. He gets the prize. It can’t be bettered!

  62. hoppers

    self delusion vs self awareness

  63. Rococo Liberal

    Speaking as a paid up member of the true upper-middle classes, I find that all lefties are actually bogans under the skin. They are so frightened of being seen for what they are. That is why they herd together in the inner city and ape the gentry, badly.

  64. Gab

    various gender and non-gender constructs v male and female

  65. Fred Furkenburger

    “Special” trendy school/education Vs local State School.
    Keeps maiden surname (politically correct!) Vs adopting husbands surname as married name.

    Mmmm sounds like my femenazi sister who lives in Elsternwick and Brunswik prior to that.

  66. Fleeced

    Carpe asks:

    What the hell is a ‘kale smoothie’?

    Hipsters drink what they call “green smoothies”.

    At the more reasonable end of the spectrum, these are just normal smoothies, with a small amount of green stuff shoved in the blender (eg, baby spinach), which you can’t actually taste in the final result as long as you don’t add too much. A handy way for those who hate veggies to sneak some into their diet.

    At the other end of the spectrum, people use predominantly nasty green vegetables with no nice bits to cover up the awful taste, and for good measure, will also choose popular New Age veggies such as kale – which taste even worse.

    Hope this helps.

  67. cohenite

    Big Mac protestors [including teachers] v Big Mac eaters and workers [including teacher's students]

  68. Judith, if your writing skills approached your capacity to stereotype you might just be worthy of the appellation “journalist”.

  69. .

    Wasn’t it numbers whose outrageous stereotyping said that Maccas was using 457 visa workers to undercut local labour?

    IT has said it all that needs to be said at 8.41 am.

  70. Gab

    ad hominem v reasoned arguments about the subject matter.

  71. Gab

    Chaps in fishnets v Chaps fishing with nets

    Says it all.

  72. Baldrick

    Certified organic, Fair Trade Alliance, sustainably-sourced, pepper-crusted, Patagonian, slow-roasted, handmade, natural royal quinoa vegetarian pattie, served on an organic spelt bun with quark and radish sprouts -v- a hamburger with the lot.

  73. Tapdog

    The job is done so long is there appears to have been some change. They will lose a few from the hard left but gain lots more in the soft middle.

  74. incoherent rambler

    dogma vs reason

  75. Gab

    Quark? What the …? The only “quark” I’m familiar with is the elementary particle and fundamental constituent of matter and part of an ordering scheme for hadrons.

  76. Gab

    seeming v doing
    shrill rhetoric v substance

  77. incoherent rambler

    cultural studies for the kids on the weekends vs lacrosse

  78. Toiling Mass

    I find that all lefties are actually bogans under the skin

    Exactly, RL.

    The cultural cringe thrives like a pernicious weed in their minds. They are always name dropping, and scrambling after the latest fad from O/S. Q&A is a great example – they really seem to believe they acquire additional prestige and credibility when they are in agreement with a fly-in on the panel. They fall over themselves mocking the outer suburbs’ charmless drinking choices, compared to their newly discovered beer from a basement in the old Czechoslovakia with the telling ingredients of cats’ bowels and rising damp.

    And yes, they are nervous at the thought of being caught out. It is why they are so over the top, trying to be more conspicuously ‘in’ than anyone else, unable to discern that all their peers are also just pretending.

    Still, they are funny – Comedie de Latte.

  79. Sir Fred Lenin

    I agree with comrade hammy,its the murdoch /meeja ,saying things about our wonderfull leaderslike
    1.the great gough was an egotistical economic loser,
    1.the great hawkie was a drunken letcher,
    1.the woderfull keating was a shifty sleazebag no one liked.
    1.accusing beazley of being a “decent man” total miss o’jenny.
    1,saying the great latham had serious attitude problems.
    1.accusing rudd of being an inefficient control freak.
    1 . Saying the marvelousgillard was a proiscuous sleazy communist ambulance chasing lesbian.
    1.and now accusing shorten of being an incompetent ex union thug.
    Lies All Lies,ask albanese ,richo ,rivkin the alpbc ,they cant all be weprong can they?

  80. Sir Fred Lenin

    I pads and my fingers sometimes just dont get on together ,sorry for the extra letters,but you dont often get something extra for free.

  81. Combine_Dave

    v Union Members frmo the Wealth Creating Industries

    Holden? Qantas? (and in the future NBN?)

    They are not wealth creating once the union gets a hold of them.

  82. Baldrick

    Quark? What the …? The only “quark” I’m familiar with is the elementary particle and fundamental constituent of matter and part of an ordering scheme for hadrons.

    Quark is soft, fresh cheese, that has a similar creamy texture to sour cream and a mild tangy taste. :)

  83. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Speaking as a paid up member of the true upper-middle classes

    hahahaha Rococo Lib, you and Da Hairy Ape, both. Consequently, HIA does exactly was he wants to do, caring little for the perceptions of others. Somehow, it is always apparent that he is the person he was brought up to be. I bring the Bogan turned Leftie (but no more) to our household. On the Christmas presents, yes, we have the Bogan masses of them. But they are always carefully distributed after Christmas luncheon, in a civilised manner, where everyone is politely thanked. Very special ones for the adults (jewellery, rare season tickets to sporting events) sometimes get given on Christmas Eve, to a background of Britten’s Ceremony of Carols. In contrast, at my rellies’ place in Sydney’s West, it is a free-for-all from 7am Christmas morning with lots of the tat being broken or discarded by elevenses.

    Chez Ape, I have had to intervene on the cultural front. Early Christmas night Madrigals and musical displays by the children are now given a miss although the obligatory afternoon strolls still happens. Plus our children can open two chosen presents on Christmas morning.

    I have standards to maintain too. ;)

  84. Token

    They are not wealth creating once the union gets a hold of them.

    Think of the hard working & honest workers that the HSU was supposed to represent

  85. Combine_Dave

    Quark? What the …? The only “quark” I’m familiar with is the elementary particle and fundamental constituent of matter and part of an ordering scheme for hadrons.

    Quark vs Odo.

  86. So the drive is on to split Labor, both within and without.

    Would anything then distance the left chunk of Labor from the Greens?

    /me goes to get popcorn.

  87. john constantine

    working with volunteers,getting them pregnant,then ordering them to have abortions because they are just disposable cannon fodder staffers. versus working with volunteers,putting out fires,helping drowning swimmers from the surf,building infrustructure for indigineous people because it is the right thing to do.

  88. Token

    I find that all lefties are actually bogans under the skin

    Is Bogan reference to the boorish barbarians who have chosen to keep all the worst characterists of their working class upbringing?

    The skanks & inner city swampies live up to the vision Homer had from his dog/cat breeding plan:

    ‘Soon I will have the perfect hybrid of a pet – the loyalty of a cat with the cleanliness of a dog.’

  89. .

    What I don’t get is why the moonbeams can’t accept the superiority of caveman/primal diets or dinosaur/old time strongman style strength training, if they are so health obsessed.

  90. Ubique

    Pink shorts vs King Gees.

  91. Token

    Being paid worker with FBT benefits for a NGO v Volunteering for a NGO

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Numbers, if your brain matched a turnip you’d be halfway to being as smart as Baldrick.

    Next you’ll be telling us you have a cunning plan to make yourself popular on Catallaxy.
    Hammy’s pipped you on the ‘favoured leftie fool’ spot already though. You would never be good enough for that anyway. Far too bitter.

  93. ChrisPer

    Dont you feel that the ‘soy latte set vs mullet crew’ dichotomy is stereotyping the ‘reasonable manperson in the street something fierce? Can’t we just isolate all activists and moral entrepreneurs, preferably on a remote island?

    This would leave the real people who might enjoy a kale smoothie OR a bundy and coke, the freedom to indulge in the beverage of choice without potentially being given cause for a Section 18c prosecution.

  94. Bear Necessities
    #1258267, posted on April 9, 2014 at 7:56 am
    Tim Flannery vs Chuck Norris

    Ooh, can that be arranged?!! The inevitable girlie screams would be truly popcorn-worthy!

  95. Greg James

    The Labor Party has already made its choice, years ago, which was only made even more explicit during the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd disaster years.

    Labor has effectively [via its policies] jettisoned any connection with its original constituency, consisting as it did of the old blue collar/battling class workers, in favour of the inner city urban elite, whose soft-green values are anathema to Labor’s traditional constituency.

  96. Pretentious bogans vs fair dinkum bogans

    LGBT vs poofters, lezzos, switch-hitters and trannies

  97. Lysander

    Harder stance on boat people Vs Welcome mat for assylum seekers.

  98. Token

    Can’t we just isolate all activists and moral entrepreneurs, preferably on a remote island?

    As the years pass the explaination provided in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Gallaxy series on how the earth got colonised seems less and less a fanciful story.

    Think on it, a global emergency which requires the evacuation of the planet.

    I certainly believe the latte sipping types are “too valuable to lose” and should be sent off ahead of the rest of us to colonise a new world and create a perfect world for the rest of us.

  99. Token

    More asylum seekers now v Aussie jobs for Aussie workers;

    Open immigration with full welfare rights v Immigration which takes account of the infrastruct & support in the communities where the people are dumped (including the unaccompanied boys who become alienated due to lack of guidance)

  100. Pat Heuvel

    “Owner-operator” vs. Family oriented

    (note quotes)

  101. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    the freedom to indulge in the beverage of choice without potentially being given cause for a Section 18c prosecution.

    Yes, stereotyping can be overdone. One thing I’ve learned in life is to like people for the varieties of their characters, not for who or what they are ethnically or socially or for what they have. I think most reasonable people would also take this view of things.

    Lefties however are the very worst stereotypers. You’re either tribal to their mores, or you are out. And as Roc Lib notes, they are terrible snobs and insecure wannabe’s in Sydney’s inner-suburbs where I lived for years. They hate ordinary Australians. This also applies when they are on the Eastern Suburbs dinner party circuit, especially if they are ‘newly risen’. Here, they love their various titles.

    I am very happy with the title of Mrs. Ape. A secret Bogan mole in their midst. :)

  102. Tintarella di Luna

    Keeps maiden surname (politically correct!) Vs adopting husbands surname as married name.

    I resemble that remark only because I started my own business when I was young and naive and unmarried. However in all important things like signing mortgage documents and in all public outings I am Mrs Sunbather.

  103. Mr Rusty

    Failed negotiating of CO2 emission reductions vs Successful negotiating of trade deals
    Lebensraum for trees vs Lebensraum for people

  104. Mr Rusty

    Utilisation of ass vs Utilisation of gas

  105. .

    I don’t give two shits what someone puts in their coffee or where they stick their pink thing into consenting adults, all I care is that they don’t expect me to pay for it or otherwise have me lose my personal sovereignty in doing so.

  106. Grigory M

    Facebook v Catallaxy.

    Oh – they are now one and the same. Well spotted, Judith.

  107. Mr Rusty

    Fuck Tony Abbott t-shirt v hi-vis vest

  108. Uber

    Ben Chifley did actually drive trains vs I wish I could get a job driving a train

  109. Fleeced

    Apple vs Microsoft

    Uhm… no.

  110. dianeh

    Keeps maiden surname (politically correct!) Vs adopting husbands surname as married name.

    Changed the name after I married, had a hell of a time changing it back after the divorce. Still havent managed to do it at the ATO who told me I have to turn up in person at an office to do so. Umm, I live out in the country, no ATO around here, and not high on my list of ‘things to see’ when I visit the big smoke. My advice is dont change your name when you marry but give the kids their father’s last name.

    And hypenated names are ridiculous.

  111. Jazza

    I think the relevant point is whatever the ALP does–and it will be surface fluff stuff only,as they are peopled by self important lefties who think they are far cleverer than an ordinary Aussie– will it stop the RC recommendations from forcing REAL change upon them?

    I want unions to have to pay tax and meet commercial legal requirements,as a base MUST HAVE

  112. Mr Rusty


    Apple vs Microsoft
    Uhm… no.

    Uhm…yes.

    Apple is hands down the choice of self absorbed, childish, hippy, lefty douchebags. Minimalist, simpleton interface, one button mouse, faggy design, cult following, genius bars (elite rulz OK!)…
    How did you not notice?

  113. papachango

    Why focus on the differences; what about the similarities:

    – beards and tattoos vs beards and tattoos
    – flannelette shirts vs flannelette shirts
    – op shop clothes vs op shop clothes

    Of course, the former are worn in an ironic, hipster style.

  114. cohenite

    As per the US email:

    If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one. If a liberal ( ie lefty) doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

    If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t` eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

    If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. If a liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

    If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

    If a person of colour is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful. Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

    If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

    If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

    If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)

    If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

    If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed. If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he’s in labour and then sues.

    If a conservative reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.

    A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended”.

  115. Gab

    external locus of control v personal responsibility.

  116. Habib

    O/T, but the ABC may have finally gone too far- an item just on stated that homeopathy (and associated voodoo) are complete bollocks. Given the vast majority of its audience are birkenstocked believers of six decades plus, this will cause outrage and much quavery insecurity- after all, if the oracle questions their long held beliefs on one issue, what else is under question?

    No doubt it’ll be buried.

  117. Bruce

    Cocaine vs Crown larger.

  118. groucho

    2BL v 2GB. carlton v blair. OMG v WTF or piss in my pants v cool head dry knickers. talk v do it eg it’s hot v have a swim. it’s cold v put on a jumper. god v God.

    public transport v all cars – to those cats who think progressives like a particular type of car, fuhgeddit they don’t. The nearest a true progressive will come to a liking car is the citroen 2cv (a lemon if ever) and then only to admire it’s artistic shape. Show them a bus/tram/train and they wet themselves coz it fits their bill; subsidised by taxpayers, unionised, state-controlled monopoly and graffitied by their kids.
    Mind the gap – it’s getting wider.

  119. nic

    Cats versus Staffies
    Oxford St versus the SCG
    Banksy versus Banks
    Recycling versus Larger bins for lawn clippings
    Pizza with goat’s cheese and rocket versus a Hawaiian
    Pho versus Nandos with a drive thru
    Craft beer versus home brew

  120. Gab

    Larvatus Prodeo v Catallaxyfiles. *snigger, snigger*

  121. Pickles

    Beer in Green Bottles v Beer in Green Cans

    Bait for first course v Bait for bait

  122. Fleeced

    Apple is hands down the choice of self absorbed, childish, hippy, lefty douchebags.

    LOL… given the number of Cats constantly complaining about commenting via their iPad, etc – that’s pretty amusing.

  123. H B Bear

    If the Royal Commission cuts off or restricts the flow of union money to the ALP things could get very interesting.

    At present the ALP, its politicians and party structure are owned lock, stock and barrel by the unions. If ALP politicians are forced to look outside the unions for cash, party numbers and support that relationship could break down fairly quickly.

    The CFMEU is already starting to move some funding across to the Greenslime. Just like the ALP, the Greenslime can’t afford to have CFMEU thugs marching alongside tofu munching ferals without losing the doctor’s wives and other soft headed types that drift across. The Slime probably don’t want too much focus on their policies outside the feel good “save the whales” type stuff either.

  124. Colmac

    Voting for a living v Working for a living

  125. Dan

    Painting your nails vs power tools

  126. Fleeced

    O/T, but the ABC may have finally gone too far- an item just on stated that homeopathy (and associated voodoo) are complete bollocks.

    Didn’t they simply report a study declaring it to be bollocks?

    But yes, it’s funny how Greeny types who insist we “respect da science” on climate change (and therefore implement whatever zany left-wing policies they dream up relating to it), are the same ones who lean toward “alternative” (i.e., non-scientific) health, are more likely to be anti-vaxxers, anti-nukes, and generally anti-progress in general.

  127. Fleeced

    anti-nukes

    By this, I was of course referring to nuclear power rather than weapons… and I gorgot to include anti-GM foods… the Left are seriously anti-science.

  128. Fibro

    The 40′ cruiser v the 4′ tinnie
    Simply Divine v You Beauty
    Vegan Cafe v The Rissole
    ‘To die for’ v ‘What’s this shit’
    Organic Free Trade Beastility free water v wheres the tap
    The Outer Room v The Shed
    Organic v Cheap
    Nutricious v Drive through

  129. The Pugilist

    Insiders v Bolt Report

  130. Viva

    The trendies will increasingly go to the Greens. Ordinary workers will split between Labor and Libs. The battle for these people is where the war will rage.

  131. Empire Strikes Back

    Deluded v Denuded

  132. Empire Strikes Back

    Apple is hands down the choice of self absorbed, childish, hippy, lefty douchebags. Minimalist, simpleton interface, one button mouse, faggy design, cult following, genius bars (elite rulz OK!)…
    How did you not notice?

    Be grateful you live in a market economy and have the opportunity to exercise your consumer preference. Ass clowning is not a wealth creating activity.

  133. Mr Rusty

    Be grateful you live in a market economy and have the opportunity to exercise your consumer preference.

    I think the Brendan Eich thing has signalled the beginning of the end of that ESB.

  134. Dan

    Boxings Friday night fight night vs The Project

  135. Dan

    Making posters for the March in March vs girls night out at Thunder Down Under male strippers

  136. papachango

    While they’re amusing… I always find these clichés a bit of a dilemma because I tick most of the leftie boxes:

    – I know several ways to cook kale that is yummy (though a kale smoothie sounds horrible!)
    – I like a good caffe lattè and occasionally a macchiato instead. (though I’d rather not have so-called ‘fairtrade’, as, political objections aside, I think it makes the coffee substandard, as suppliers are paid the same ‘fair’ wage decided by some NGO therefore have no incentive to improve quality and compete)
    – I cycle more than I drive (though I think fixies are for tossers)
    - I live in the inner city, in Yarra, the most left wing council on the country (only one to have elected 2 x socialist party councillors)
    – We always have goats cheese in the fridge, and never eat the crap at Colonel McPizza Hut.

    So how come I ended up being a libertarian and always voting Liberal and LDP (one of about 50 in my whole electorate)?

  137. Des Deskperson

    For Canberrans

    Kathmandu v K-Mart
    Government car v own Hyundi
    Inner North v Lower South
    ‘Recumbent’ bicycles v trail bikes
    Lonsdale St v Anketell St
    ANU v CIT
    A. Baker v Hogs Breath

  138. caveman

    Wife bashes vs Whitmont shirts.

  139. So how come I ended up being a libertarian and always voting Liberal and LDP (one of about 50 in my whole electorate)?

    I don’t know, but it sounds as if you are in grave danger of falling into collaboration.

    I propose an immediate intervention.

  140. Ubique

    South of France, Kilamanjaro, Nepal and Cuba vs Bali and Surfer’s Paradise.

  141. Anne

    Liberate hundreds of millions of dollars by allowing Templestowe acres to be subdivided v Council’s 2050 plan for green wedges, bike paths and rainbows.

  142. Empire Strikes Back

    I think the Brendan Eich thing has signalled the beginning of the end of that ESB.

    Fair.

  143. caveman

    Mr Whippy vs Acai smoothie

  144. calli

    Over mortgaged shiny bummed suit vs cashed up hi viz

  145. And hypenated names are ridiculous.

    That’s usually because people with ridiculous names bewilderingly want to keep their maiden names.

    Others, like Busch-Rash, Best-Lay, Butts-McCracken, Crapp-Beer, Dunnam-Favors and Filler-Quick only become ridiculous if hyphenated.

  146. CatAttack

    Talks about people needing to buy Holdens vs Actually buys Holdens
    Palm oil free v versus Oil on their palms

  147. nic

    Donating to feed Umbopo, a child in Sudan Vs donating a case of beer to the garbos as Christmas
    Being a member of GetUp versus being a member of a Lifesaving or SES group

  148. Rabz

    Gerbil Worming V Big bloody deal

  149. Rabz

    Cavoodles/Ferrets V Blue Heeler

  150. politichix

    embarrassed to be using apple now that all the masses are into it vs the masses that are into it

  151. Infidel Tiger

    donating a case of beer to the garbos as Christmas

    Do people still give the garbos beer at Xmas?

  152. Des Deskperson

    Sorry, my entry above should, of course have been

    ‘Government car v ex-Government car’

  153. nic

    Do people still give the garbos beer at Xmas?

    My parents do

  154. Piett

    South of France, Kilamanjaro, Nepal and Cuba vs Bali and Surfer’s Paradise.

    Bhutan Vs Bali

    Bali — or at least the Kuta and Legian area — is vile. A disgusting beach (hands up those who enjoy swimming in sewage?), touts every 3 paces, nothing to do except go to bars and drink (which you can do just as readily at home) or score drugs off the Corbys and their ilk.

    On this point at least, the latte-sippers seem to have got it right.

  155. Dan

    Taking your kids to weekend sports vs staying at home to work on the kids CAGW homework

    Hi ya SfB!

  156. Peter S

    So nicely stated Judith. Right on the mark.

  157. papachango

    I don’t know, but it sounds as if you are in grave danger of falling into collaboration. I propose an immediate intervention.

    so are you saying to become a true libertarian / centre rightie / conservative or whatever you call it, I need to ditch the kale and goat’s cheese for KFC and the roadbike for a jet ski? lol I thought it was just the Left that put people into tribes like that.

    I dunno, I kind of like the trappings of ‘inner city progressivism’ when it comes to food and drink etc – I just ditch some of the wankier elements of it, like the extra dose of Smug with that fairtrade coffee. It’s also kind of fun when people just assume to you’re naturally ‘prgoressive’ when it comes to politics then get a bit shocked when you express a contrary opinion.

    There’s hope for me – we’re looking at getting a big Toyota 4WD. Hopefully the price comes down with this trade deal.

  158. entropy

    politichix
    #1258602, posted on April 9, 2014 at 1:13 pm
    embarrassed to be using apple now that all the masses are into it vs the masses that are into it

    As an apple user for 27 years, I know what you mean. Mind you the arty crowd have also always been users too.

  159. Anne

    Apple/PC, Sunbeam/breville, Coke/Pepsi (Kool-Aid)

    Who cares!

    Be thankful you have a choice.

  160. Abu Chowdah

    Apple is hands down the choice of self absorbed, childish, hippy, lefty douchebags. Minimalist, simpleton interface, one button mouse, faggy design, cult following, genius bars (elite rulz OK!)…
    How did you not notice?

    Good to see retro arguments making a comeback. The Cat’s first hipster!

  161. The Pugilist

    Full beard and side part v goatee and mullet

  162. The Pugilist

    Citroen whatever v Holden SS Ute

  163. feelthebern

    Quinoa salad vs a chicko roll

  164. feelthebern

    Bill Henson artist vs bill Henson rock spider

  165. feelthebern

    The project vs family guy

  166. Piett

    so are you saying to become a true libertarian / centre rightie / conservative or whatever you call it, I need to ditch the kale and goat’s cheese for KFC and the roadbike for a jet ski? lol I thought it was just the Left that put people into tribes like that.

    Exactly. Part of being a sensible human being is being able to enjoy things from all quarters, in the right circumstances, and in moderation. The kale and goat’s cheese and KFC and roadbike and jet ski. They’re not incompatible. (Though I have no fucking idea what a kale even looks like.)

    In some of my tastes, you’d think I belonged to the left-wing faction of the Greens, when I’m out with my leftie friends. Then I wax lyrical about the fun I had in the 1990s with semi-autos on the firing range, and how the ban was a mistake and a deprivation of liberty. You can almost hear the gears grinding in their brains, as they struggle to process the outrageousness of such an opinion.

    Tribalism, and conformity of opinion, is a leftie disease, folks. Let’s not fall into the same trap.

  167. Mrs Beardsley

    Timor Leste v East Timor.

  168. feelthebern

    John butler trio v AC/DC

  169. feelthebern

    Numbers v Vietnam Vets who don’t remind you about it every day

  170. Mrs Beardsley

    “I’m offended” v Oh, why did you say that, mate?

  171. feelthebern

    David Marr essay vs why does this guy hate tony Abbott as much as he loves bill Henson ?

  172. feelthebern

    Woody Allen vs Bruce Willis

  173. Mr Rusty

    Abu Chowdah
    #1258638, posted on April 9, 2014 at 1:57 pm
    The Cat’s first hipster!

    That hurt. Retract that slur, I am to hipsters as Al Qaeda is to Ronald Mcdonald.

  174. Anne

    Hiya toots v Mizzzogginneee!

  175. richard

    National Party split from Liberal Party

    Labor Party split from Latte Left (who join the Greens)

    National Party will merge with Labor Party.

    Irony that the farmers and the factory workers will have more in common (social conservatism, protectionism) than they do with business and the academics.

  176. Zaphod

    nice decolletage v nice tits

  177. Mater

    Summer Nats vs The Mardi Gras

  178. Paul Montgomery ‏@m0nty 9m

    Traversing the South Melbourne market. Packed out. Cracking paella for lunch. Wife buying all the things, me carrying them. #beastofburden

    Monty vs JC

  179. Pyrmonter

    @ Fleeced, Papa…

    1 Kale cooked well is wonderful – discovered that a student exchange to Germany 30 years ago, so no food fadist I

    2 Curious to discover that one of Labor’s leading lights seems to think pop culture needs subtitles:

    http://www.news.com.au/national/bob-carrs-diary-of-a-foreign-minister-dubbed-bridget-carrs-diary/story-fncynjr2-1226878884968

  180. groucho

    god v God

    just try the spell check on your apple device

  181. Bill Shut

    People who are tools vs people who use tools

  182. Infidel Tiger

    Comprehension please people. Judith was talking about the divisions in the ALP.

    There is no good side. We are talking about scum on both sides.

  183. .

    richard
    #1258668, posted on April 9, 2014 at 2:21 pm
    National Party split from Liberal Party

    Labor Party split from Latte Left (who join the Greens)

    National Party will merge with Labor Party.

    Irony that the farmers and the factory workers will have more in common (social conservatism, protectionism) than they do with business and the academics.

    Richard – you are a clueless fucking idiot.

  184. steve

    Activist versus Actavite

  185. Piett

    Paul Montgomery vs Bernard Law Montgomery

  186. politichix

    Bill Shut
    #1258701, posted on April 9, 2014 at 2:58 pm
    People who are tools vs people who use tools

    Hahahahaha, my fav so far!

  187. DrBeauGan

    Intellectual vs Practical common sense

    LizzieB has it right as usual. Adults choose from what’s on offer and don’t give a damn what others think, especially when they don’t. They don’t fall into tribes and they experiment and explore. I guess there’s a bogan tribe and a neo-bogan tribe of sad lefties. I don’t belong to either but much prefer authentic bogans. They are harder to shock.

  188. ralph

    Richard isn’t clueless at all – in Victoria the country party governed in the 1950s for a term with the support of the ALP. The weaknesses of this article, other than advancing some tired old stereotypes and chasing cheers from the usual crowd, is that it doesn’t consider how electoral majorities arise, and quickly – its called events. At the last election the 2PP was only 53/47 – the swing of a few VB drinkers/high vis wearers etc and that is gone.

  189. kc

    Green zones Vs lets go fishing

  190. ralph

    The country party governed under Albert Dunstan from 1935-43 with support from the ALP – there,s an electoral majority for you – fit in high visit and everything else. The main game in Australia is what these majorities might look like – simple stereotypes don’t cut it. Keep your day job Judith.

  191. Paul Montgomery vs Bernard Law Montgomery

    Paul Montgomery vs L M Montgomery

  192. Mater

    Ralph,
    Jokes aside, it was a different time and a different Labor Party. This thread exists primarily because a good portion of the working class haven’t yet grasped this.

  193. nanuestalker

    Labor isn’t changing, it’s adapting to keep it inner city seats whose demographic is no longer working class. What will happen is the same old Labor in the bogan suburbs and an even more leftarded Labor in the inner city.
    Fisk doctrine now!

  194. David

    “roll” your own -v- HSU Credit Card

  195. Des Deskperson

    Ralph, your examples of Nat-ALP co-operation are both (a) old and (b) Victorian. As anyone who has done Pol Sci 101 will know, the old Country Party in Victoria was unique, with a particularly agrarian socialist bent that reflected the particular divisions and clashes of interests in that State between, for want of better words, the ‘dirt farmers’ and the ‘squatters’, the latter having always voted Liberal.

    Who, of course, knows what might or might not influence the formation of political blocs in the future, but if you are going to argue plausibly for a future Nat/ALP alliance, you really need better and more contemporary evidence.

  196. .

    Richard isn’t clueless at all – in Victoria the country party governed in the 1950s for a term with the support of the ALP.

    This means they’re going to merge?

    Really?

    Truly pathetic.

  197. Pickles

    Dead right Ralph, not enough take this blogging seriously enough. You won ! You won! Don’t give up. Lisa really loves you.

  198. entropy

    Wasn’t here an ALP/national coalition about a decade ag on SA? The national party even had ministers.

  199. Empire Strikes Back

    Ralph v. mankind

  200. johanna

    I don’t think that the prospect of some elements of what remains of the Nats merging with the ALP is as absurd as some people think.

    The Nats have overwhelmingly represented the poorest electorates for many years now. Those electorates are almost all in rural and regional areas.

    In the event that the ALP returns to its roots (unlikely, but certainly not impossible), there is a lot more commonality than there is with the policies of urban based nominal free marketeers. The majority of the Nats have long been agrarian socialists, who firmly believe that the rest of the country owes their constituents a living.

  201. Squirrel

    “Toiling Mass

    #1258370, posted on April 9, 2014 at 9:25 am

    I find that all lefties are actually bogans under the skin

    Exactly, RL.

    The cultural cringe thrives like a pernicious weed in their minds. They are always name dropping, and scrambling after the latest fad from O/S. Q&A is a great example – they really seem to believe they acquire additional prestige and credibility when they are in agreement with a fly-in on the panel. They fall over themselves mocking the outer suburbs’ charmless drinking choices, compared to their newly discovered beer from a basement in the old Czechoslovakia with the telling ingredients of cats’ bowels and rising damp.

    And yes, they are nervous at the thought of being caught out. It is why they are so over the top, trying to be more conspicuously ‘in’ than anyone else, unable to discern that all their peers are also just pretending.

    Still, they are funny – Comedie de Latte.”

    Yes – “ashamed to be Australian” (since September 2013, anyway) fits in with this very much.

    Kudos for the parting shot, by the way.

    To the theme, I will add: Wallander (English or Swedish version) vs Castle, and confess that I thought kale was seaweed.

  202. Squirrel

    “Des Deskperson

    #1258563, posted on April 9, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    For Canberrans

    Kathmandu v K-Mart
    Government car v own Hyundi
    Inner North v Lower South
    ‘Recumbent’ bicycles v trail bikes
    Lonsdale St v Anketell St
    ANU v CIT
    A. Baker v Hogs Breath”

    Or maybe just – Canberra vs Queanbeyan

  203. Empire Strikes Back

    The majority of the Nats have long been agrarian socialists, who firmly believe that the rest of the country owes their constituents a living.

    Farmers of that ilk have been leaving the land (or have been forced off). The folks in for the long haul either hitch their wagon to big agri or supply niche markets. Both understand that unfettered trade and efficient production of stuff (foreign) people want is essential for their future prosperity.

    Agrarian socialism has no future in Australia. That horse has bolted.

    Regional cities with high unemployment and low tax receipts are another story. A love story staring city Nats and trade Laborites is plausible.

  204. Frontal lobotomy vs bottle in front of me

  205. Reiki and chi alignment vs couple of Bex and a good lie down

  206. Des Deskperson

    ‘Regional cities with high unemployment and low tax receipts are another story. A love story staring city Nats and trade Laborites is plausible.’

    Interesting. Does anyone know who actually votes for the Nats? It’s been suggested that it’s mainly rural town businessmen and their employees rather than farmers (whatever ‘farmers’ might mean).

  207. Bons

    Employed Australians versus those paid by Taxpayer ( excludes old age pensioners who seem to be the next target of the inner city and Public Service bludger class – “how dare they who have contributed all their lives claim some support in their dotage”) – WHAT ABOUT my child care fees. The inevitable clash of civillisations. TRhe clash was a long time coming but it is far more inevitable than the confected climate scam. History demonstrates that eventually, the payers erupt. The ABC is just beginning to observe the inevitability of the reaction to their arrogant dismissal of the intelligent electorate – journos next.

  208. Dan

    can’t actually taste in the final result as long as you don’t add too much. A handy way for those who hate veggies to sneak some into their diet.

    Vegetables are mostly devoid of nutrients except a couple of vitamins such being fat soluble can’t be absorbed without oil or fat in the diet. Fruits are virtually devoid of anything except sugar and vitamin C.
    I stick to meat and eggs.

  209. johanna

    Agrarian socialism has no future in Australia. That horse has bolted.

    You have got to be kidding. They demand more local public spending in the good years (on the grounds of their economic contribution) and “special measures” like drought relief and Centrelink exemptions in the bad.

    Why do you think that Bob Katter has been re-elected for so many terms?

  210. Pickles

    The recent Nats and Labor coalition led by Windsor and Oakshott worked out really well and is a template for future alliances. Have no idea what you do in Canberra Joanna but it can’t be much.

  211. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “special measures” like drought relief

    You can demand drought relief until the cows come home, but any such relief is difficult to obtain and strictly controlled.

    I’ve steered this place through four of the six worst droughts, in a hundred years. Drought relief? What’s that?

  212. Richard Bender

    Des Deskperson, as someone who lives in the lower south, shops at the K-Mart in the mall on Anketell Street, owns an ex-government car and could kill a slow-cooked steak right now (if it wasn’t, of course, already dead), am I forgiven for having attended ANU?

  213. Anne

    Communism v Human nature.

  214. john constantine

    100$ humane catch relocate and release for each house mouse, versus ratsack

  215. ralph

    The stupid stereotypes presented in this article (you are all click bait suckers) actually impedes our thinking about where electoral majorities arise. Think for a minute about CSG and the greens and how this doesn’t meet the lazy stereotypes presented. Why did Mirabella lose her seat? Judith – keep you day job.

  216. jupes

    Think for a minute about CSG and the greens and how this doesn’t meet the lazy stereotypes presented.

    Hmmm, tic tic tic … 15 … tic tic tic … 30 … tic tic tic … 45 … tic tic tic 60.

    Nope. CSG and the greens meets the stereotype perfectly.

  217. nerblnob

    Kale is horrible, what the poor people used to eat in Scotland. Its recent trendy reappearance hasn’t , for once, improved it.

  218. .

    johanna
    #1259057, posted on April 9, 2014 at 7:37 pm
    Agrarian socialism has no future in Australia. That horse has bolted.

    You have got to be kidding. They demand more local public spending in the good years (on the grounds of their economic contribution) and “special measures” like drought relief and Centrelink exemptions in the bad.

    Why do you think that Bob Katter has been re-elected for so many terms?

    WTF does that have to do with sugar subsidies?

  219. .

    Why did Mirabella lose her seat? Judith – keep you day job.

    Electoral fraud.

    Ralph – you are a sucker and a fuckwit. Next.

  220. johanna

    Zulu etc, the point that no subsidies have come your way in no way negates my point.

    When there is a cool summer in the cities, do ice cream sellers get subsidies?

    When small to medium businesses in and around cities go broke due to things beyond their control, does anyone care?

    But, as soon as the normal weather cycle, which includes droughts, comes into play, suddenly we all have to fork out.

    Agrarian socialism is far from dead.

  221. GeorgeL

    Lycra vs stubbies

    Q & A vs The Simpsons

  222. Tom

    Sumerianism versus Summernats.

  223. Would anything then distance the left chunk of Labor from the Greens?

    No.

    I can’t wait for them to split again, because…

    Labor has effectively [via its policies] jettisoned any connection with its original constituency, consisting as it did of the old blue collar/battling class workers, in favour of the inner city urban elite, whose soft-green values are anathema to Labor’s traditional constituency.

    Yes, a thousand times yes. And if it regained that constituency and clung to it, I might even consider throwing it the crumb of a vote from time to time. Hawke was the last Labor PM who had any real connection to the Australian blue collar worker. Keating may have done well to leave school at 15 and still rise to become Prime Minister (an exemplar of the theory that some kids really shouldn’t be kept at school when they’d be better off in the workforce), but he was also the first Labor PM to show just how much he despised ordinary working Australians and wished to put himself above them. (Even then, he didn’t wear his loathing on his sleeve quite the way Rudd and Gillard did.)

  224. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    no subsidies have come your way in no way negates my point

    I’m sorry, I thought your point was that there is this vast great cornucopia of tax dollars, and all we had to do was ask, and we shall receive.

    The ONLY, let me repeat the ONLY assistance, I get is a tax rebate on the diesel fuel I buy for off road use, worth to me about ten thousand dollars a year. Contrast this with my American counterpart – a four hundred thousand dollar grant to buy new machinery EACH YEAR ,federally funded drought insurance (including up to 60% of his premiums paid by the taxpayer) and subsidies we can only dream of -worth about $200,000 a year. They then lecture us about the level playing field…

    Oh, and by the way, can you furnish figures on what is actually spent on drought relief each year, as opposed to what is announced?

  225. Big Jim

    These themes are comforting, until you realise that the same divides exist on the Right. Worse, the visible right (the vocal minority) is indistinguishable, on the core issues, from the inner-city left (indeed, aspiring talent is media-coached to avoid antagonising the inner-city left, by making, as we say, a ‘faux pas’ or a ‘gaffe’.)

    So the left is riven with internal contradiction, but not so the right? Wishful thinking. The right leadership is as far removed from reality as the left elite.

  226. I abhor duck hunting; let’s ban it/guns vs. I abhor duck hunting; where’s the nearest skeet/trap club?

  227. Gerry

    Friends who agree with your politics v friends who may or may not agree

  228. iamok

    For Australia vs for myself

  229. iamok

    For Australia vs for myself

    Or maybe more appropriately:

    “Me, me, me” (screamed in tantrum child like voice) vs “Us”

  230. motherhubbard'sdog

    We is us vs Aussie, Aussie Aussie, oi, oi, oi

  231. Elizabeth (Lizzie) B.

    Sandwiches. No-one has mentioned sandwiches. Bane of my life in my schooldays.

    Triangle cut with thoughtful fillings vs. my Sainted Mother’s rectangle cut jam doorsteps

    These days I expect commodification has taken over:

    Sushi rolls with a side of raw carrot and celery sticks vs. coke and crisps pak plus a bought muffin

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