“A lot of these guys are basically shysters and crooks”

James Delingpole has a new book out The Little Green Book of Eco-Fascism: The Left’s Plan to Frighten Your Kids, Drive Up Energy Costs, and Hike Your Taxes!. He is being interviewed here by Ed Driscoll.

“I’m not a scientist and actually given what I’ve seen of scientists in my experiences following the global warming scam, I’m glad I’m not a scientist because a lot of these guys are basically shysters and crooks. They’re not some kind of white-coated elite with a special hotline to the truth. In fact, they’re just ordinary guys and girls trying to earn a living like the rest of us but slightly more dodgily than the rest of us in the one or two egregious cases.”

The left seems to have a system for achieving power by finding some element in every issue that is a giant step too far and then harping on it. No one is uninterested in “the environment” and everyone wants to preserve the planet whatever that might mean. But global warming is so inane and so lacking in evidence that it separates those who have common sense from some kind of herd of conformity. But it also absorbs almost all of the attention so that people who are not interested in seeing the Great Barrier Reef, let us say, ruined if it is in danger from some commercial proposal are still seen as outsiders to these crusaders for a green environment. Their extremism is the problem and their leaders are to an incredible extent in it for the money and political power it gives.

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68 Responses to “A lot of these guys are basically shysters and crooks”

  1. Badjack

    At last someone at the top end has worked out what scientist really are. Any person (scientist or drainlayers labourer) who thinks they are never wrong is dodgy and full of shit.

  2. Andrew

    Yep, the Reeeeeeeeeeef. The new meme. Since the Greens worked out that no one believes the amount of claimed temp increase (perhaps due to clues like 60 years of carbon sensitivity that can’t exceed 1.5C/log2 CO2 even if no other factors applied) they have switched to the Reeeeeeef in every announcement. Or equivalently, ocean acidification.

  3. rickw

    No one is uninterested in “the environment” and everyone wants to preserve the planet whatever that might mean.

    Exactly, The Left as usual has set about trying to destroy everything, and then re-make it with themselves at the centre.

    My family have been successfully farming the same patch of dirt for over 100 years. It is more productive now than it ever was, with more tree’s than it ever had in the past.

    (Crown land leases have just been terminated, so watch that crown land become overgrown and filled with blackberry bushes, an unuseable tinderbox).

    If that’s not real environmentalism then I don’t know what is?

    Yet according to The Left’s playbook, farmers are irresponsible destroyers of the environment and the planet.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    farmers are irresponsible destroyers of the environment

    We plant between five to ten thousand trees here per year, water them by hand through the first couple of summers and remove and replant any that don’t make it.

    I have never seen any person of the Green persuasion actually doing any of the work……

  5. jupes

    The natural environment is a harsh bastard. To enable us to fulfil our potential and live comfortably, we have to dominate and change the natural environment.

    In an enlightened society development trumps the natural environment. In modern Western society, the natural environment trumps development. Our children are taught this destructive message to the point of brain-washing.

    It cannot end well.

  6. minderbinder of QLD

    However given the MSM and its need for sensational headlines, with controversy; the UN and its insatiable need for cash and control; each western sovereign Government with its need for cash, and control; the back to the cave ideological movements of the anarchists and Greens with their need for cash and control; there is created an unholy alliance that dwarfs any attempt at a rational debate based on scientific methods.
    Indeed, the blind ideology of feeling now infects every discussion at every level, from kindergarten children being told to make their parents live in a sustainable ecologically friendly way, all the way up the line to Governments imposing taxes that will collect money but will not change the processes of the weather of this planet in even one miniscule amount of any natural event of wind, rain, temperature, ocean currents, glaciation, etc, etc. It has taken the promoters of this giant scam some 40 years to get to this dominance, and it could take at least that long to get back to rational scientific studies, instead of crystal ball gazing into man made computer programs that start with flawed assumptions, and biases, to get the answers that are wanted for the next series of grant monies, headlines, and bureaucracies. All that can be done at this time is to ridicule the crude attempts at catastrophe headlines, and hope that a 50 year cycle in society attitudes will dispose of this version of the South Sea Island bubble in the trash can where it belongs.

  7. philip j. fry

    Paraphrasing Dr Phil..

    “I hate to brag, but I’m not a Climate Scientist”

    They will become pariahs eventually, and the good ones will be dragged down with the bad, sadly.

    I can never understand why they never come out in unison whenever some clown, like that Flannery fellow, makes stupid statements. Since they don’t their silence is deceit by omission, surely?

  8. H B Bear

    Anyone who mentions the death of the Great Barrier Reef should be handed a neck tie and pointed towards the ladies loos. It is the Snowy Mountains Scheme of scary environmental cliches.

  9. .

    Delingpole’s book seems to be a bit like Donald Luskin’s unpublished “The Conspiracy to Keep you Poor and Stupid”. Am I right?

  10. .

    How many years has the reef been dying for exactly? It would seem this claim is nearing 30 years.

  11. H B Bear

    Czech president Václav Klaus has called out this Green-Left scare for what it is – an assault on freedom.

  12. jupes

    It would seem this claim is nearing 30 years.

    Way back in the ’60s it was the Crown of Thorn that was ‘destroying’ the reef.

  13. Dot, I remember the GBR ‘dying’ when I was ten. That was fifty years ago.
    Whenever some marine biologist wants to have a holiday for a year or so, they bring out some ecocatastrophe on the reef, and voila! a year of frolicking with nubile undergrads in the surf, all paid for by the mug taxpayer.

  14. Ant

    Yes, as Dreamers and Deceivers they constitute 2 of the categories in my evil trilogy of Global Warming Racketeers.

    Like the perversion of our political system, which sees its trajectory generally leftwards year in and year out, it comes down to the media and the framing of the message.

    When you have the massive resources of the ABC, backed up by too many in private media companies, devoted to perpetrating AGW nonsense, together with the billions that circulate the planet greasing the palms of countless stinking enviro-alarmist carpetbaggers, is it any wonder that the great mass of low information Dummies go along with it and vote with the Dreamers and Deceivers who pretend they can cool the planet just so long as you keep feeding them oceans of cash?

  15. RodClarke

    Czech president Václav Klaus has called out this Green-Left scare for what it is – an assault on freedom.

    Its also robbing children of their natural hope for the future. I wonder how much youth depression / mental illness is attributable to this enviro-doom-mongering they are bombarded with since age 5.

  16. Splatacrobat

    Jonathan Swift had a foretaste of Green science when he wrote about Gulliver’s experiences on the island of Laputa.

    Munodi explains that forty years ago some people went to Laputa and returned with new ideas about mathematics and art. They decided to establish an academy in Lagado to develop new theories on agriculture and construction and to initiate projects to improve the lives of the city’s inhabitants. However, the theories have never produced any results and the new techniques have left the country in ruin.

    Swift continues his mockery of academia by describing the projects carried out in the cities below Laputa. The academy serves to create entirely useless projects while the people starve outside its walls. Each project described, such as the extraction of sunbeams from a cucumber, is not only impossibly flawed but also purposeless. Even if its scientific foundations were correct, it would still serve no real purpose for the people meant to gain from it. The result is a society in which science is promoted for no real reason and time is wasted as a matter of course.

  17. .

    Dot, I remember the GBR ‘dying’ when I was ten. That was fifty years ago.

    That plus the old crown of thorns claim. We can call bullshit on it.

    Some poor young winemakers and horsey people have fallen for the gasland bullshit. How do I gently re-educate them?

  18. nerblnob

    Some poor young winemakers and horsey people have fallen for the gasland bullshit. How do I gently re-educate them?

    Practically impossible. The industry doesn’t waste its time answering the never-ending litany of fantastical allegations dreamed up by activists. It would be a full time distraction and achieve nothing. So the only counter argument being put up is by the likes of Phelim McAleer and it just becomes “he said, she said” . Once people have picked a side, they won’t change their mind. It’s like asking a Blues fan to barrack for the Magpies.

    The activists quickly recognised that the general public had never heard of “fracking” before so took ownership of the term. Now anyone whose curiousity is piqued will google and find pages of activist propaganda without learning anything much about tight shale gas extraction. This seems like a “mountain of evidence” when all it is is an echo chamber of the same few loony allegations.

  19. rickw

    Dot, ask them to enlighten you as to how the bad stuff gets from the fractured rock, up through tons of other layers of other rock (which apparently had previously done a great job of keeping the gas where it is), or out of the lined bore hole (leakage = lost money) and into the water table etc.

    If they know anything about fracking, the methods, the depths relative to the water table etc. then the lack of a problem should be self evident.

    Alternatively you could ask them to just follow the money, who paid for the movie etc.?! Of course the Arabs are really concerned about preserving the America’s wilderness!!

    Fracking and domestic energy production could be what saves the world, not from an energy perspective either, the less money the Saudi’s have to spend on spreading Wahhibism the better for everyone.

  20. Sir Fred Lenin

    The basis of all modern bullshit industriesis FUNDING. Deprive the con people of FUNDIG and it will all disappear,big guvmint,the untidy nayshuns ,the aboriginal industry.and the other leeching industries,gullible warning,akademia,.the law rtade,corrupt politicians,and union officials,the whole communist elitist bunch mall BROKE and inReal Labour Facilittes working fir their food .and no Taxpayer funded super!

  21. nerblnob

    rickw, the obstructionists already have rehearsed answers to those questions, which stupid as they sound to anyone with technical experience, will sound half-plausible to an already-concerned member of the public. Somewhere recently I saw a website “explaining” that deep fracs cannot possibly be safe because they could link with natural fractures that eventually communicate to surface or the water table.

    Anyone even slightly curious will find websites like this : Fracking Hell at the top of the list. Never mind that it’s 99% bullshit, how is anyone to know that? The sheer repetition convinces eventually. Some poor people seem to have found their life’s purpose in hysterical opposition to anything that they believe is fracking, whether it is or not.

    The only thing that has changed people’s minds is when gas prices start soaring as in Europe, and when Vlad the Put starts messing with the supply valve

  22. Dan

    Some poor young winemakers and horsey people have fallen for the gasland bullshit. How do I gently re-educate them?

    corrupt their daughters

  23. Chris M

    I think a lot of this stems from a failure in our schools to teach mathematics adequately, the global warming hoax would have been laughed at from the start if folks looked at the math first – it just fails straight out.

  24. johanna

    What is especially annoying, and illustrative of how far the deep green propaganda has corrupted society, is what happens on the rare occasions when members of the feral rent-a-crowd who regularly break the law as part of their activism finally end up in court.

    They plead the formerly unknown defence of “saving the planet” and get away with a slap with a soggy lettuce leaf.

    The Greenpeace morons who destroyed the CSIRO experimental GM wheat crop and two years of research got fines, which were paid by Greenpeace. They should have gone to jail – the damage they did represented hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money.

    The anti-coal mobile crusty brigade block roads and access to mine sites, harass employees and landowners, climb on and sabotage equipment etc all the time, with apparent impunity.

    I am a strong supporter of the right to protest, but that does not include a free pass for destruction of property and infringement of other people’s legal and civil rights. Yet politicians, the police and the judiciary all turn a blind eye to repeated breaches.

  25. philip j. fry

    “corrupt their daughters”

    who of course are all taught to ask “why would the scientists lie?”

    If you answer with anything at all, you look like a conspiracy crank

    They have to work it out for themselves, as above, or be directed to sources. These are kids who are indoctrinated in school in the green myth, they BELIEVE .. trust me, they really do.

    I doubt most will work it out in time, and when they do, there will be another generation of indoctrinated souls of the new crop of fools

  26. Jessie

    chris m
    the maths looked fine on perusal and could be marketed easily as such.
    It was the manner in which timelines and data distortion/manipulation deliberately took place. And that took some persistent and talented individuals to uncover those facts from the global consensus mob.

    Mundine is doing the same with the structural perspective. Nyunggai Warren Mundine wants a complete infrastructure audit after 40 years experimentation in communal cult living and dying. Visits are to be scheduled. Sound familiar?

  27. MacBeth

    David Suzuki had about three minutes on that Canadian circus thing shot in the desert near Las Vegas. Sitting on a rock, he let us know that 1) He’s a scientist with a PhD. 2) The desert is a mysterious spiritual place. 3) He’s a scientist with a PhD. 4) All the animals will be extinct within fifty years. Other self styled mystics also added their piece of psycho babble. All the while, creepy characters from the circus pranced about.

  28. braddles

    I’m glad I’m not a scientist because a lot of these guys are basically shysters and crooks.

    And yet he is happy to be a journalist?

  29. nerblnob

    I’ve never met anyone in the “hard” sciences that described themselves as “a scientist”. It’s always “mechanical engineer”, “chemical engineer”, “structural engineer”, “mathematician”, “geologist”, etc.

    It starts to get mushy around about the “life sciences” and goes completely loopy when you get to “social sciences” (hi there economists!).

    But really, who outside of horror films and green activism talks about “scientists say” and “The Science” , let alone it being “settled” ?

  30. Jessie

    Johanna
    OT.
    I remember in my reading somewhere ages ago, a breakaway (secessionist) from a ?nation state is legislatively supported (by the former nation state) for the defence of its land and seas. Some assistance with this please. ?Constituent/nation/sovereign states terminology I need to check.

  31. Jessie

    neblnob at 2.03pm
    hi there lawyers?

  32. Senile Old Guy

    Today’s CAGW plug from the ABC:

    Mill held that the great advantage of truth is that although it may be suppressed many times it will eventually be rediscovered and will rise to withstand all subsequent attempts to suppress it. Those warning of the dangers of climate change were among the “heretics”. The view has gradually prevailed and Senator Wong is right to now say “the science is in”. Increasingly there is community consensus and we may hope soon political consensus. This consensus is the effect of free speech as Mill theorised it, it is not a threat to free speech as Brandis so wrongly argues.

    It contains this clanger:

    If Brandis thinks there is a cultural consensus that can be described as a “tyranny of political correctness” he needs to argue his case. He deserves to be listened to and for his argument to be carefully considered. But because there is no problem with consensus in itself he needs to show not just that there is a consensus but that the consensus is in error.

    We know that there is no such consensus on CAGW. The people who want to maintain that there is are the ones who want to shut down debate to continue the illusion of a consensus. (And, yes, I know that even if there was a consensus that doesn’t mean it would be right.)

    Brandis describes how Senator Wong would “stand up in the Senate and say ‘The science is settled’. In other words, ‘I am not even going to engage in a debate with you’. It was ignorant, it was medieval, the approach of these true believers in climate change.” Brandis seems to think that it is necessary that debate continue until those in error come to accept their error. Mill had no such requirement and nor should he.

    There’s a nice little cheat in there: “Brandis seems to think…” In other words, Brandis didn’t say this but I will pretend he did so that I can criticize him. In fact, I’m pretty sure that Brandis doesn’t think that, so all arguments from that premise are invalid.

    Author Henry Martyn Lloyd is a lecturer in the History of Philosophy at the University of Queensland. Of course he is.

  33. stackja

    Could not Sydney Harbour Colliery be fracked? Lots of water!

    Sydney Harbour Colliery
    http://www.resourcesandenergy.nsw.gov.au/landholders-and-community/geoscience-for-landholders/historical/balmain-coalmine
    Balmain Colliery
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balmain_Colliery

  34. Ubique

    Meanwhile, back in the real world the global warming “pause” now extends to 17 yrs 6 months; and Antarctic sea ice coverage is 1,544,000 sq km greater than the 1979-2008 mean for this time of year:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/

  35. nerblnob

    stackja, unlike anti-fracking activists, I don’t claim to be an expert on frac fluids but I’m pretty sure they don’t use salt water.

    Most downhole fluids are fresh water based, or “drill water” as we call untreated non-potable fresh water.

    Until fracking came with the obligatory prefix “controversial process known as”, I understood that the big breakthrough was when they figured out how to frac tight shales using cheaper fluids, i.e water with fewer chemicals than previously used, which would make all the hysteria about “chemicals” even more ironic. But then, I don’t claim to be an expert.

  36. stackja

    nerblnob
    #1275150, posted on April 22, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    Just curious. Since most fracking is away from most urban voters they accept the assurances of the ‘experts’.

  37. jupes

    Antarctic sea ice coverage is 1,544,000 sq km greater than the 1979-2008 mean for this time of year

    Yes and total sea ice coverage is a lazy 700,000 sq km more than the 1979 – 2008 anomaly.

    But of course all the missing heat is hidden in the ocean.

  38. jupes

    Since most fracking is away from most urban voters they accept the assurances of the ‘experts’.

    Big Al Jones does.

    Just this morning he was banging on about a paper written by ‘experts’ concluding that CSG extraction would result in the water table dropping 125 m.

  39. nerblnob

    Since most fracking is away from most urban voters

    Actually, a lot of tight shale areas are very close to urban voters in the USA and Europe (as is CSG in NSW for that matter, reason being that coalmining towns were built where the coal is, strangely enough) . It’s just that, without the activists and protest camps, shale gas production is relatively unobtrusive for most of the time and people are unaware of it.

    During rig moves and certain operations, it might be a heavy industrial site for a few days but nothing compared to installing a wind turbine or building a desal plant.

  40. brc

    Surely if fracking is so bad, then having your gas company affix some sort of star label to your bill, and the creation of a goveremt website would be enough to solve the problem? I’d happily buy some ‘may include fracked gas’, especially if it was cheaper than the Saudi Brand ™ imported stuff.

  41. Pete D

    And who is the great Poo-Bah of shysters and crooks? Who lives off the earnings of ‘warming scams’ thru dodgy companies and govt. grants and donations from bent corporations and a brain-dead public? Vice-President of vice, Al Gore.

  42. CatAttack

    RodCkarke ” robbing children of their natural hope for the future. I wonder how much youth depression / mental illness is attributable to this enviro-doom-mongering they are bombarded with since age 5.”

    I was just thinking the very same thing this morning when the Commissioner for Children was discussing suicide and self harm on our ABC.

    How much of this pessimistic world is nigh everyone is bullying me message is causing kids to lose hope.

  43. johanna

    Jess, happy to help, but please clarify your question. Thanks – J

  44. Greg James

    But global warming is so inane and so lacking in evidence that it separates those who have common sense from some kind of herd of conformity.

    Unfortunately, this has still not filtered through to Their ABC, which on 774 radio today had 2 or 3 Alarmists screeching about the fact that atmospheric levels of CO2, as measured at Mauna Loa, had just reached 400ppm.

    According to the Alarmists from the CSIRO, and other AGW compliant institutions, this has NEVER EVER OCCURRED IN MILLIONS OF YEARS! Ergo, we are all fucking fried according to Their ABC and its fellow travellers.

    One day, I really want to see these morons rounded up and put on trial for their grotesque Alarmism.

  45. manalive

    Alarmists screeching about the fact that atmospheric levels of CO2, as measured at Mauna Loa, had just reached 400ppm …

    Whoopee !!

  46. manalive

    @Senile Old Guy

    Increasingly there is community consensus and we may hope soon political consensus …

    Lloyd (lecturer in the history of philosophy) must have regal pretensions because he uses ‘we’ instead of ‘I’ throughout his piece, or maybe he has caught Hugh Mackay’s disease.
    Presumably ‘we’ are the right-thinking people as opposed to the wrong-thinking people (deniers) which makes his entire argument a crude example of the logical fallacy ‘begging the question’.

  47. In the mean time while Greens bleat global warming dogma, they support butt ugly industrial scale windfarms producing a few percent of power on the grid at an enormous taxpayer subsidised cost. This junk, which slices up the bird life and destroys the souls of locals through it’s relentless droning is, of course, well away from the typical greeny’s inner city haven or hovel. Do as we screech, not as we do so little of, eh?

  48. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    Lloyd (lecturer in the history of philosophy) must have regal pretensions because he uses ‘we’ instead of ‘I’ throughout his piece, or maybe he has caught Hugh Mackay’s disease.

    Brilliant!

    All these years I thought I was the only one who threw my boots at the telly / chucked the newspaper or radio out the window when I heard that gormless nincompoop prattle on about ‘We …’ this and ‘We always …’

  49. Notafan

    Compare the ATARs required for science, engineering etc and it’s easy to see who the good ordinary players are.

  50. nerblnob

    . He regards wind power as a shocking waste of money, and nuclear power as vital. He attacks scaremongering over Chernobyl and Fukushima. (“Where are the corpses?”) And he criticises the “enormous, indoctrinating power of the media” over a “functionally innumerate” public.

    Who dat? James Lovelock of Gaia Theory fame, just last week.

    You gotta love the Australian Greenies who fear Australia is behind the times and not greenie enough. Sure, Australia is behind the times – still supporting a high percentage of Greenies while the rest of the world has moved on. They are stuck on an abandoned branch line of history.

  51. nerblnob

    More from Lovelock:

    The problem with the climate is none of us really knows what it’s going to do. We don’t have enough good, solid evidence, therefore one tends not to speculate. Speculators have been a bit wild, and I say that because I was one of them … That’s why I get so annoyed when unwise politicians start passing legislation to control what they think will happen in 2050. We just don’t know.”

    He enrages the greens because of his views on energy supply. He thinks, for example, that we must frack, not because it is a good thing in itself but because we desperately need a transitional energy supply if we are going to keep the lights on. With luck the transition should be to nuclear.

    “The problem with nuclear is that it is the almost ideal form of energy, but it has frightening consequences like the bomb. But it is easily the safest form of energy, much safer than wind power,” he says.

    Wind turbines have always irritated him, not just because they spoil the English landscape that he loves so much, but also because they don’t work. “I am not totally anti-windmills, but I am against the blind use of something which is just an alternative to nuclear energy, just because it’s there, without thinking what the consequences are,” he says.

    “The problem with windmills is they are not at all efficient, and to provide this country with a supply of electricity, even if there was a perpetually steady wind, would require an incredible number covering practically every acre of land.”

    The environmentally confused should not despair. They should, says Lovelock, still buy fuel-efficient cars, insulate their houses, try to cut their energy use.

    That last is pretty much what every sensible person does anyway, without the irrelevant intrusions of busybodies, greenies and obstructionists.

    Nice to see a sinner live long enough to recant.

  52. When it comes to Shysters and Crooks, the LNP in Queensland are way out in front.
    David Gibson’s latest is an example.
    There are more crooks in the Queensland LNP now than there were in Joh’s days, and that’s saying something………..Driscoll, Caltabiano, Gibson, McIver, Bates, etc.
    And then there’s Walton’s
    How about a royal commission into the links between Waltons and the LNP?
    No wonder Noddy Newman wants to eviscerate the CMC.

  53. 2dogs

    So the LNP is corrupt because a tenant for which it was landlord went bankrupt, is that right Numbers?

    So it is a moral failing for a landlord not to check a lessee’s credit worthiness?

  54. nerblnob

    Mr 173etc, your links don’t seem to support your allegations.

  55. This was nothing more than an LNP “Slush Fund” to channel money into their coffers and avoid having to declare it.

    A quick glance at the so-called board shows up some likely suspects.
    But that’s all OK in Noddy Newman’s Queensland.

  56. Oh come on

    Mr 173etc, your links don’t seem to support your allegations.

    Not surprising. Don’t bother with him. He’s not worth the effort.

  57. Cold-Hands

    Mr 173etc, your links don’t seem to support your allegations.

    Don’t encourage him when he’s frothing at the brain [sic].

  58. Bear Necessities

    When it comes to Shysters and Crooks, the LNP in Queensland are way out in front.
    David Gibson’s latest is an example.
    There are more crooks in the Queensland LNP now than there were in Joh’s days, and that’s saying something………..Driscoll, Caltabiano, Gibson, McIver, Bates, etc.
    And then there’s Walton’s
    How about a royal commission into the links between Waltons and the LNP?
    No wonder Noddy Newman wants to eviscerate the CMC.

    All amateurs compared to Mr Bill Ludwig. All ALP members in the Beattie/Bligh eras use to bow down in his presence. He turned Racing Qld into a stinking mess.

  59. davey street

    What a pack of FRAUDS are the Greens. Palmer is saying he will vote down the planting of one million trees (among other efforts) in Abbott’s direct action plan, and the Greens say what to Palmer ? Nuttin. Zilch. Zero. Adam Bandt and his commie mates are all about one thing. Hatred of Abbott for winning the election and throwing the ALPGreens out of power and hence cutting off their access to monstrous amounts of money. A complete ignore of Palmer’s decision says sooooo much about the Left. Palmer clearly wants no carbon tax, no mining tax and no money spent on climate change amelioration, and what do we hear. NOTHING FROM THE SELF-SERVING FRAUDS OF THE LEFT.

  60. 2dogs

    This was nothing more than an LNP “Slush Fund” to channel money into their coffers and avoid having to declare it.

    Numbers, do you actually read links before you post them? The newspaper that reported on the fund discovered the information because the LNP declared it:

    Australian Electoral Commission records show that the LNP fundraising entity received more than $1.4 million from Walton Construction in the financial years from 2009-10 to 2012-13.

  61. Bons

    Bugger – the numbers thing has awoken and recovered from the pot hangover sufficiently to now continue the assault on global intelligence.

  62. Bons

    Whatever happened to that unshaven idiot that the ABC inflicted upon Sydney morning radio on 702. He claimed to be a mathematician (perhaps he was Numbers). He hung-up on Monckton during an interview, which was apparently a first even for the ABC – no response from the employer as I recall.
    I escaped from the Sydney ants nest while he was still destroying peoples morning peace – is he still there?

  63. Tel

    How many years has the reef been dying for exactly? It would seem this claim is nearing 30 years.

    Six million I believe… if by “dying” you mean getting bigger, and I think that’s the most often used terminology.

  64. JC

    Whatever happened to that unshaven idiot that the ABC inflicted upon Sydney morning radio on 702.

    Honest question, but what would you care if he’s on radio?

  65. Demosthenes

    How many years has the reef been dying for exactly? It would seem this claim is nearing 30 years.

    That was actually a really close guess, going by wikipedia.

    Water quality was first identified as a threat to the Great Barrier Reef in 1989.[5]

  66. johanna

    going by wikipedia.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa! (wipes eyes). Hahahahahaha!

    Oh, my sides.

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