Are all paediatricians socialists?

I am looking at the impact of family structure on income and wealth inequality – a topic that the Left will not touch – and I came across this directive (see below) from the American Academy of Paediatricians.

I was reminded of my dad, who was an old-fashioned paediatrician who always placed the welfare of the child at the centre of his concerns but was cautious about clinical intervention.

Recall that he was the man who rose to speak against the motion that a group be established ‘Paediatricians against Nuclear War’ by posing the question: are there any paediatricians for nuclear war?

Recall also the Australian Institute of Family Studies report – I think it was 2011 – that established that marriage has a positive impact on children’s learning and development. Needless to say, the rationalisations quickly followed – married couples are better educated, married couples are more likely to be employed, married couples are better off financially.  In other words, nothing to do with being married per se.  Sure, I thought.

Read the following and weep:

A recent report from the official journal of the American Academy of Paediatrics entitled Marriage and the Well-Being of Children, contains the following statement.

“Importantly, we affirm the state’s vital role in promoting children’s well-being,” the abstract states.

“We question, however, the approach of delegitimising certain relationships as a means to that end. Instead, we argue, the state should encourage and support individuals who want to care for children, presume that any couple or individual is capable of adequate child-rearing, and ensure that all adults who are raising children (whether married or not) have the material resources and support necessary to be good parents.

“Such a policy would (1) set a reasonable minimal threshold for state recognition, (2) be vigilant in identifying cases falling below this threshold, and then (3) either assist or disqualify underperforming arrangements.

“It would also, appropriately, decouple arguments about legitimate and illegitimate types of relationships from arguments about what is best for children.”

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43 Responses to Are all paediatricians socialists?

  1. Biota

    presume that any couple or individual is capable of adequate child-rearing,

    Yes, in their hypothetical world, but in the real world…
    From Bolta:

    Defence lawyers for the teens told the court that the boys had not had stable family lives.
    Save for one case, they said, both parents had abandoned or neglected them, or been in and out of prison… Two of the boys also had prior convictions, … including for indecent assault, and had resorted to violence and intimidation in two other known instances.

  2. Eddystone

    From my observations, most many doctors in Australia are socialists.

    My guess is that this is because their earnings are largely guaranteed by the State, and most patients are too poor to afford to pay for all the treatments and tests that are either the treatment of choice or are required to avoid litigation or adverse coronial findings.

    Plus they generally drive nice cars and enjoy the finer things, like all good Aussie socialists. :)

  3. K-Man

    I didn’t weep – I just shook my head.

  4. Walter Plinge

    The widespread and insidious March Through The Institutions again. It’s infected the Christian churches, the Royal Society, BHP, BP, Shell..and so on. Where will it be discovered next?

  5. Ken N

    The doctors who get involved in organisations are different to those treating patients.
    A variation of the ” those who can do, those who can’t teach”.
    My doctor is a long way from being a socialist.

  6. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Well of course they are! Every single one seems to be. Cripes, they cover for their mates in the ALP and greens everywhere, only five in teh ALP have been enslammered recently and there’s a hell of a lot more of them there, now just look at the ones at Lavatory Rod….



    Erm.

    You said paediatricians?

    Not paedophiles?

    My bad.

  7. tomix

    Doctors can probably see which way the wind is blowing It’s been one direction only for at least 30 years.

  8. entropy

    You know, I believe the reverend Mary speaking at the Anzac ceremony today not only handed over the traditional role of the church unto the State, but I actually do not recall her mentioning the name of God. Not even once.

    Long march indeed.

    You might have a point there Ken. A bit like the short haired, dangly ear ringed nursing sisterhood who spend their lives making things difficult for the nurses actually working the wards, but especially hard for the good girls in allied health while running a constant war of attrition against the doctors.

  9. The answer is yes.

    I am basing this on the fact that when a report was commissioned in the UK on the economic impact of plain packaging on smoking, it was supposed to be delivered by a paediatrician.

    Not an epidemiologist or an economist. A paediatrician, who could be relied upon to deliver the appropriate lefty chorus.

  10. Dave Wane

    Whether it was John Lennon or more likely Ringo Starr, or maybe both; they were 100% spot-on when they said: “Everything the Government Touches Turns to SHIT”. How many people do you meet who have made a successful life for themselves as a result of so-called government services and programs? The main beneficiaries of all this big-government, interventionist, nanny-state nonsense are the armies of overpaid and mostly unnecessary taxpayer-funded people employed to carry out existing “engineering” schemes and devise new ones. Leave the people alone and they will grow and most likely prosper. Molly-coddle and direct them and they will be failures – unable to make the hard decision of life. Just like so many of the highly paid bureaucrats and others on the taxpayer-funded payroll who could never survive outside the cozy, highly protected world of the public sector.

  11. tomix

    A doctor once told me that there are 2 types of medical practitioners in Qld. Those that can operate a successful business and those that are forced to find work with the government.

  12. ken n

    “Not an epidemiologist or an economist.” Remember Philippa, most epidemiologists are sociologists, without medical qualifications.

  13. “Not an epidemiologist or an economist.” Remember Philippa, most epidemiologists are sociologists, without medical qualifications.

    Don’t need medical qualifications to be a good epidemiologist; just to be good with numbers.

    And the numbers tell their own (uncomfortable) story. THAT’S when you need your lefty lenses, to make sure that you interpret those awful numbers ‘correctly’.

  14. 2dogs

    Let me make the case for family law autonomy here: why should those who choose family arrangements that are more beneficial to society in general, have to subsidise those that don’t?

  15. Gilas

    Eddystone is unfortunately correct, I happen to be a doctor and Fellow of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, all Fellows receive a regular Fellowship Affairs “Newsletter”. In the last 4-5 years this putrid relic of published gangrene has been consistently splattered with condescending pieties on stock-standard leftard topics like social justice, Aboriginal “gaps” and other such drivel, all while medical educational standards are declining and nanny-state bureaucratic interference into medicine is increasing (see AHPRA if you don’t believe me).

    Anyone with an IQ greater than their glove-size would think that the latter issues should be the more relevant, appropriate foci of action by the College and its pathetic publication, but you’d all be wrong.

    For a recent example of the College’s capture by this sanctimonious, meddlesome scum look no further than their position statement in 2013 on parents disciplining children:
    http://www.racp.edu.au/page/paed-policy

    I first became aware of the communistic, totalitarian tendencies of the medical establishment when preparing for a lecture on CAGW in 2009, well before Copenhagen and Climategate, since then I have noticed the rapid decay into demented activism of such seminal journals as The Lancet and even the New England Journal of Medicine.

    One can go on…. but you get the idea.

    Students of history would be well aware that such persistent, invasive encroachment by one “class” on the general citizenry will eventually lead to violent reaction against the encroaching class. The longer this takes, the more violent the reaction. FFS! I might even take part!

  16. mareeS

    Gilas, you’d be the perfect doc for me and mine (straight talk, no bullshit) except we already have one just like you. A dwindling breed of (mostly male), sensible, professional practitioners, if my recent experience is any indication.

    I suspect the fact that more than 50% of medical school graduates are now women has something to do with the tripe being offered by the body of paediatricians quoted by Judith. It used to be that doctors’ wives were the fount of all stupidity, but female graduates from medical school have replaced them in the nutty-and gullible class.

    I’d be happy to meet one who works more than 20hrs a week (and then only to pay the school fees), and who reads more than one challenging book a year that isn’t about AGW/CC/3rd world disaster/starving babies/western guilt/we’re all gonna die with the whales and the coral….I’d rathe die from natural causes than meet such dills in the consulting room.

  17. Rabz

    Not in my dad’s day they fucking weren’t. He specialised in pediatrics (with a bit of groundbreaking micro surgical work thrown in for good measure) before he went into general practice.

    If you’re ever out near Rookwood and you hear an incessant whirring sound – that’s my ol’ man spinning in his grave.

    He would be appalled at what the frigging AMA (of which he was a former NSW branch president) and the so called medical practitioners they ‘represent’ have degenerated into – a banal, hysterical, anti intellectual, statist bunch of nannyist ninnies.

  18. Walter Plinge

    A dwindling breed of (mostly male), sensible, professional practitioners, if my recent experience is any indication.

    Add: Also 50 years of age or older and Caucasian. Luckily Mrs Plinge and I have excellent GPs, but that’s probably a function of living in a better off area of NW Melbourne. No shortage of good doctors around here.

    I seem to recall reading fairly recently that younger doctors lack basic diagnostic skills leading to a large increase in the number specialist tests ordered at taxpayers’ expense. I’m certain it was a GP writing in Quadrant.

  19. entropy

    Are trainee medicos allowed to learn on live animals anymore?

  20. Chris M

    Maybe they look for more work? Horrible to suggest but what else…?

    I saw a study were the children of homo parents were SIX TIMES as likely to have been sexually molested by their parents. Just shocking, and there was total apoplexy and outraged howls amongst said group and enablers when the study was released.

  21. JohnA

    Gilas #1280029, posted on April 25, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    Eddystone is unfortunately correct, I happen to be a doctor and Fellow of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, all Fellows receive a regular Fellowship Affairs “Newsletter”. In the last 4-5 years this putrid relic of published gangrene has been consistently splattered with condescending pieties on stock-standard leftard topics like social justice, Aboriginal “gaps” and other such drivel, all while medical educational standards are declining and nanny-state bureaucratic interference into medicine is increasing (see AHPRA if you don’t believe me).

    And the same applies mutatis mutandis in the accounting “profession”. My monthly journal now ranks with Royalauto as the least read paper recycling in the house.

  22. Gavin R Putland

    The internal economy of every nuclear family — and of every privately owned corporation — is a socialist command economy. And marriage is a restrictive trade practice. Just saying.

  23. Gab

    And marriage is a restrictive trade practice. Just saying.

    And yet the left, in commission of their gay activists, are hell-bent on becoming part of that “restrictive trade practice”. Just sayin’.

  24. Gavin R Putland

    Yes, Gab, I wonder about the origins of “gay marriage”. As far as I know, its the best get-out-the-vote issue that the U.S. Republican Party ever had. And in view of the long history of hostility from heteros against gays, and from organized religion against gays, I wonder why any self-respecting gay person would want anything to do with that religious hetero institution called marriage. Moreover, it seems to me that if there are gay marriages, there will be gay divorces, hence official statistics on stability of gay marriages vs. straight marriages. Gays might prefer not to open that can of worms. But, as I’m a religious hetero myself, it’s not my call.

  25. Eddystone

    entropy
    #1280115, posted on April 25, 2014 at 9:46 pm
    Are trainee medicos allowed to learn on live animals anymore?

    Trainee vets aren’t allowed to train on live animals anymore!

  26. Gilas

    mareeS
    #1280085, posted on April 25, 2014 at 9:01 pm
    A dwindling breed of (mostly male), sensible, professional practitioners, if my recent experience is any indication.

    Walter Plinge
    #1280110, posted on April 25, 2014 at 9:39 pm
    Add: Also 50 years of age or older and Caucasian.

    Unfortunately you’re not quite correct, the female kind are mostly either old and embittered, or younger and replete with leftard tendencies. However the male variety is no less sanctimonious, following the Gramscian march in the 70′s. Make no mistake, most of the modern Colleges’ activism and power still rests with older males, most of whom left their testicles around, somewhere in 1968.

    The main problem (already alluded to by Cats) with the large group of professional females in medicine (now greater than 50% of new graduates) is their pervasive ability to game the system by gaining temporary public employment without declaring a pregnancy, taking early maternity leave, inconveniencing scores of colleagues with their leave demands, AND sometimes doing so on multiple occasions. My (small) Unit has been affected by this malady 6 times since 2010. But try to even LOOK like you might be unhappy about this and try to rearrange matters to minimise risk…. the CEO of a major Western Sydney Hospital lost just such a case, in court, some 6 years ago.

    Any Cat conversant with industrial law relating to maternity leave in the Public Service would know about the intractability of this problem… cancer treatment success rates are greater!

  27. Vagabond

    Whatever Gilas has written about the RACP goes double, triple, quadruple for my own former medical college, the College of GPs, known popularly as the College of Wankers by all but the burgeoning number of Professors Of General Practice infesting the profession. A more venal bunch of appeasers and toadies to leftist policies you never saw. The rot set in when they sold out to the “vocational registration” scheme in the early days of Medicare and that has gone on to ensure that GPs are the worst paid and most administratively burdened of all doctors. No wonder it’s such an unpopular area of practice and is becoming the almost exclusive domain of overseas graduates. General Practice in particular is a target for political interference in attempts to bring unsustainable “free” medicine to the voters. The RACGPs opposition to the mooted $6 co-payment is not surprising at all, it puts them firmly at one with the Doctor’s Reform Society.

    Fortunately I no longer work in the area having retrained to a more intellectually satisfying specialty. It will be interesting but sad to see what happens as the flood of graduates from the new medical schools begin to flood the market.

  28. Rowan

    @Chris M, sorry, that just doesn’t happen. Gay people are just as able to have kids and love them just as any straight people do.

    Perhaps the study failed to take into account that the smaller number of gay people in the world will alter the percentages and make it seem that way.

    Who released this so called study anyway? A group who thinks homosexuality is dangerous to children at anytime of the day? As a gay man, it ain’t :P

  29. Tel

    The internal economy of every nuclear family — and of every privately owned corporation — is a socialist command economy.

    Not going to comment on people’s family life but you are wrong about privately owned corporations. Any pay system that offers pay proportional to work done is not a command economy, this includes profit sharing schemes, sales bonus schemes, promotion based on merit, employee share schemes, payment for project completion, etc.

    I might also point out that any individual within a private corporation is free to leave and join a different corporation, that typically is not the case with command economies.

    And marriage is a restrictive trade practice. Just saying.

    One among many, certainly the government has no place defining what is marriage nor defining which agreements between individuals are acceptable. Rightfully the churches should define marriage.

  30. Walter Plinge

    My monthly journal now ranks with Royalauto as the least read paper recycling in the house.

    You mean In The Black? Yep – in the bin, unopened. Is it possible to stop it? I would if I could work out how.

  31. Vicki

    At the risk of sounding a little panicky, I have to say that its more than spooky that so many professions are dominated by left leaning Associations. No doubt the saturation of campus politics & teaching staff by the Left has much to do with the emerging trend. But it is becoming harder not to think it really is a deliberate move to capture the official position on social and political issues. It gives so much more credence to a statement that comes from a professional body.

    The other culture changing process derives from the entertainment industry. When society constantly observes gay marriage, benign ethnic “alternates values’, etc being portrayed as mainstream, it has a gradual effect on beliefs. Neuroscientists argue that story telling is one of the most powerful mechanisms for affecting values and beliefs.

    I’m not sure if these developments are just symptomatic of a genuine change in western values which are just being initiated by “early adopters” (as they call them in marketing), or if the rest of us are being are being very cleverly out manoeuvred.

  32. Paul

    Entropy you know far too much about the world of the non-clinical nurse.

  33. Paul

    Gab & gavin, l can assure you that lots of gays also wonder about the origins of gay marriage.

  34. Gab

    Yes, Paul why is why I said gay activists.

  35. Gab

    and their associated handbags from the Left.

  36. jrm

    Chris M,

    I saw a study were the children of homo parents were SIX TIMES as likely to have been sexually molested by their parents.

    Mark Regnerus’ Family Structures Study of adults 18-39 is here

    One outcome (Were ever touched sexually by a parent or other adult) had a 23% rate for children of lesbian mothers, a 6% rate for children of gay fathers and 2% for children of intact, biological families.

    Lots of other interesting stuff there.

  37. jrm

    Vagabond,

    What you said, only I call them the Royal College of Gutless Pissfarts (‘pissfart’ being recognised medical terminology as, no doubt, you know).

  38. JohnA

    Walter Plinge #1280841, posted on April 26, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    My monthly journal now ranks with Royalauto as the least read paper recycling in the house.

    You mean In The Black? Yep – in the bin, unopened. Is it possible to stop it? I would if I could work out how.

    Me too. I may have to simply retire…

  39. Pyrmonter

    @ JohnA and WP … regrettably, Charter is no better

  40. Roger

    Recall that he was the man who rose to speak against the motion that a group be established ‘Paediatricians against Nuclear War’ by posing the question: are there any paediatricians for nuclear war? Your father was obviously quite a gem, Judith. Would that we had more of his kind in the medical profession today.

  41. Bryn

    Vicki #1281007, posted on April 26, 2014 at 2:47 pm:
    … I have to say that its more than spooky that so many professions are dominated by left leaning Associations.

    I suggest it is because “professionals” by definition know – or think they know – more than the plebs, in one area of expertise at least, from which follows the thought “We know what is best for you”, a purely Socialist idea. “Trust me, I am a Doctor” has been around for many a year. Now academe spews out so many Doctors (not Medical Practitioners), the left-lean is inevitable.

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