The National Socialist Alliance on Q&A

Watching Q&A was more than usually entertaining. The real surprise to me was not that it happened but that a protest of this sort had never happened before. A live broadcast ought to have been a very tempting target. Yet for all their idiocies up in the gallery, it was the people on the panel who were the one’s that spooked me, specially Anna Burke who could not have been more out to lunch had she been scripted for it. I now think the Coalition will win the next election (is this the kiss of death?). Just get people like Burke back before a camera mouthing off the usual platitudes and the Libs will win in a walk. I should also say I thought Christopher Pyne won every round.

In its own way what I found so pathetic about the protestors is how old time they are. We were doing the same ourselves back in the 1960s when it was new and fresh. Pathetic and disgusting but new and fresh. The left in both its tactics and ideas seems to be locked into a mould that ought to have died on the vine thirty years ago (OK – 150 years ago). But for all their empty rhetoric and curiously vacant ideas, these people are a high level danger. It reminded me of a recent post by Stacy McCain talking about American universities:

Scarcely a day goes by that we don’t hear some report of the increasing turn toward totalitarianism by the campus Left. Progressive hegemony on university faculties, a humanities curriculum heavily influenced by crypto-Marxist “theory,” and the radicalization of students through an identity-group Culture of Grievance, all contribute to this growing climate of intolerance. Administrators, when not actually in sympathy with the radicals, abdicate authority in the face of intimidation tactics employed by the militant Left at universities and colleges.

On a university campus few will stand up, perhaps because administrators sympathise with those who protest or perhaps it’s just seen as part of university life. But to have taken their national socialist tactics into the greater world beyond the campus gates was a mistake. The usual Trot approach is the worse the better. The worse the establishment comes down on their heads, the better conditions will become in getting us to the revolution. They are likely to end up all the worse for what they did. Whether that leads to better as they define it, of this I have very great doubts.

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29 Responses to The National Socialist Alliance on Q&A

  1. James B

    If I was a state government I’d ban political activies on university campuses.

    Minimum penalty: immediate expulsion and a permanent ban form all tertiary institutions in the state.

  2. Craig Mc

    Make HECS deductible from the dole, and the problem is solved.

  3. Baldrick

    … and where were the howls of protest last year when Gillard et al. proposed to pull $2.3 billion from university funding, as a budget ‘savings’ measure, that would have effectively increased student fees?

    As usual with socialist scumbags – it’s not the cause that matters, it’s the motivation.

  4. … and where were the howls of protest last year when Gillard et al. proposed to pull $2.3 billion from university funding,

    Here and here and here.

    it’s not the cause that matters, it’s the motivation.

    Absolutely correct in Baldrick’s case – even in the face of the facts……

  5. Yobbo

    These tools are going to be so embarrassed when they grow up and have a permanent reminder of just how big of a fuckwit they were in their youth.

  6. Senile Old Guy

    I now think the Coalition will win the next election (is this the kiss of death?).

    Based on watching Q&A? A show that no-one watches? The Coalition have already lost the next election.

  7. Rohan

    The irony of this is that the original HECS scheme was introduced by Hawke/Keating back in 1989. Students weren’t happy about it then, but it the Student Union didn’t put up much of a fight either.

    Pyne’s statement last night that the average debt accrued is now roughly $16k is interesting. When I finished uni in 1994, I had a HECS debt of $13.5k. So if that’s correct, in 20 years this amount hasn’t really been properly adjusted for inflation.

  8. Anne

    As usual with socialist scumbags – it’s not the cause that matters, it’s the motivation.

    Baldrick, that sounds like Marx, it’s not the end result that’s important, it’s the revolution!

    Yobbo
    #1293869, posted on May 6, 2014 at 6:24 am
    These tools are going to be so embarrassed when they grow up and have a permanent reminder of just how big of a fuckwit they were in their youth.

    Not so, they’ll double down on stupid Yobbo, they’ll join the Greens. They can see Anna Burke there bragging about being a socialist and living high on OPM.

  9. .

    I have nothing against partially funded CSPs going and only having fully funded scholarships to people who can actually pass a university course.

    The 1960s model works fine. University was already “free” for those who couldn’t afford it.

    Then we lowered our standards and let everyone in for free.

    Teaching kids with poor foundations, no motivation or without a clue in what they want to do in life sharpens your mind to the issue.

    The issue now is absurdly high costs for a degree – UNSW estimates all up for a B Sc or B Ec is now 133k-116.5k AUD.

  10. Josh

    Coalition are still $1.40 at Sportsbet

    The price hasn’t budged in the last 6 weeks

  11. cohenite

    Protestors like the fuckwits on that fuckwit program, Snowcone’s follies, suffer from expedient non-conformity. They protest at the very system which gives them succour; they are cowards, hypocrites and bastards. If they had guts and were genuine about fascism they would be protesting in front of the nearest fucking mosque.

  12. Empire Strikes Back

    The left in both its tactics and ideas seems to be locked into a mould that ought to have died on the vine thirty years ago (OK – 150 years ago).

    Riddle me this Steve – why would the left abandon a tactic that works?

    The problem lies with how the (nominal) right reacts. Teddy bear conservatives who acquiesce to such thuggery denigrate liberty. They are as much a problem as the troglodytes and must be Fisked with extreme prejudice.

  13. Pyrmonter

    Not something terribly new, or local: this was something of a cause celebre in 2011 for one of the bloggers to whom the Cat links:

    http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-comes-to-ec-10.html

  14. Of course when Federal Labor were in government and made unpopular changes to the higher education system, you didn’t get protests on Q and A. But when Chris Pyne makes unpopular changes and takes charge of the mess Labor left behind him and appears on Q and A…. OUTRAGE!

    Lots of lefty backslapping going on on Facebook and Twitter, etc. It’s pretty amazing how oblivious they can be to how their actions look to ordinary Australians.

  15. sabrina

    The next election is 2 years away. There is NO chance of this ALP coming to power, Q&A or not. People can see through what the ALP stand for.
    Having said that, some of the recent developments are suggesting that the LNP mob are also greedy, self-serving liars, and obfuscators to say the least.

    With a credible 3rd alternative at least two decades away, the two major parties will get away doing what they generally do, screwing the voters.

    The sooner we have a large and real alternative to keep the bustrads honest, the better it is. I hope David L and his ilk keep their head cool and steadily make their presence felt.

  16. thefrollickingmole

    The best bit for this is the statement at the end about “The usual Trot approach is the worse the better”, this isnt just trots its any group which has no “right” to get what it wants thinking if it can foul things up enough maybe, just maybe the cards will fall their way.

    Crisis for the majority is opportunity for the undemocratic rump.

  17. boy on a bike

    The average HECS debt might have only risen to $16k because so many students are pulling the pin before they complete their course. They get pushed into doing “something” that involves higher education, and after they’ve been at it for a year or two, they wake up and realise that whatever they are doing is not for them.

  18. Rob MW

    “If they had guts and were genuine about fascism they would be protesting in front of the nearest fucking mosque.” – cohenite please don’t be offended (It’s not my fault that I’m over 50, white, male, married with 4 kids (all with jobs) and pay tax – hopefully I will be forgiven one day) but you could have possibly added to that statement by saying: – “If they had guts and were genuine about fascism they would be protesting in front of the nearest fucking mosque and make their case in front of the fascists for the introduction of a welfare State based on ‘Sustainable Totalitarianism’.: – I guess the irony would be too much to explain to the little kiddies of this very little Country.

    Now back to watching the main ABC headline of the day; Packer and his long time school friend having a punch-up and not one single soul has made a police complaint……..fuck this is very bad……..but yet……..oh no……..apparently the Japanese are interested……..shit who would have guessed. I wonder whether the ABC could find out whether or not the Mormons are interested ? baited breath and all that.

  19. JC

    Yobbo
    #1293869, posted on May 6, 2014 at 6:24 am
    These tools are going to be so embarrassed when they grow up and have a permanent reminder of just how big of a fuckwit they were in their youth.

    Are you kidding yobbo. That scum is too far gone to rehab even in the Fisk Doctrine re-ed camps.

  20. stackja

    I was never allowed to attend university. I now see this as never being indoctrinated by the left.

  21. Token

    Not so, they’ll double down on stupid Yobbo, they’ll join the Greens. They can see Anna Burke there bragging about being a socialist and living high on OPM.

    She is living her life in the image of Karl Marx, living the life of one of the 0.001% all made possible by mooching off OPM.

  22. Token

    In its own way what I found so pathetic about the protestors is how old time they are. We were doing the same ourselves back in the 1960s when it was new and fresh.

    Their tactic of posing statements based upon pure leftard fantasies & targeted to stir envy & resentment are what is keeping the left in power in so many juristictions globally. Listen to some of the very unfunny crap Obama spouted when he should’ve been taking the p**s out of himself at the correspondence dinner.

    It may be tired, but it does work.

  23. Toiling Mass

    I remember when I was at Uni there was a woman who dismissively told me during a discussion that I was soooo conservative.

    I took some umbrage at that, as the label seemed to indicate a preference for habit over thinking, and I did not consider myself conservative, but such was Sydney Uni back then that, if you weren’t of the left, you were conservative.

    It was years later that I realised that the politics this woman championed, and its methods, were the truly conservative one, unchanging over decades.

  24. rickw

    I was never allowed to attend university. I now see this as never being indoctrinated by the left.

    I did Mechanical Engineering, it was an island of learning in a sea of left wing politics. Occasionally we had to wade into the left wing filth to meet the course requirements to have our “horizons broadened”, a complete waste of time!

  25. rebel with cause

    There’s lots of uni students that don’t agree with the socialist alliance. They are the one rushing off to work as soon as their classes finishes for the day. You can guarantee that the kids loitering around on campus to discuss politics are incapable of productive labour.

  26. There’s not one of those “socialist alliance” dickheads who were asking questions on the show, there’s not one who looks employable.
    A bunch of malcontents, yes. Chips on their shoulders, yes. Maturity, no. Conscientiousness, no.

    Just one look at their eyes is enough. They’d fail most job interviews.

  27. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    SatP:

    Just one look at their eyes is enough. They’d fail most job interviews.

    Oh, come on. There are plenty of jobs they’d both love and excel at.

    Einsatztruppen, informer, torturer, concentration camp guard, death camp guard, death train guard, stool pigeon, ethnic cleanser, corpse-disposal oven operator, terrorist enabler, socialist propagandist, secret policeman, political prison rapist, ….

    The list goes on and on!

    (Provided all their victims are unarmed, helpless and have no way to defend themselves, of course)

  28. Nato

    Good point about ‘tactics and ideas’. Somehow exotic intoxicants and loose women caught me up on the far-left ticket, which got me elected, to the Student Union Council. I used to love asking ‘don’t you have any new ideas?’ of the people I was involved with on the student union. That was before trying to work with those dopey knobs led me to resign before lectures had even begun for the year.
    AS for any frustration with the show, is there anything to be gained from an hour of people trading their favourite of the last week’s tweets?

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