Wednesday Forum: May 7, 2014

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  1. Carpe Jugulum

    Lady Jugs is not to be trifled with.

    Try smoking a cigar inside and you’ll see how dangerouus she can be.

  2. Carpe Jugulum

    It’s ok Gab, i used to carry a concealed nihongo. ;)

  3. Pickles

    The Olden Days

    Elizabeth Jane Ann Hancock Harper Marsh had her Ticket of Leave cancelled in 1829 for an act of public and gross indecency as reported by the Sydney Police Office on 23 Sep 1829. She was sentenced to three months in the third class of the female factory. Constable Thomas Sharpe swore an oath that he found Jane Harper (late Hancock) and Richard Williams, free, lying down….in the middle of Castlereagh Street in the act of carnal connection……..the woman was in liquor but the man was sober. Richard Williams was fined ten pounds.

  4. Cold-Hands

    Thanks Kae. Mind you, when I vote below the line, I start with the pollies I hate most and count back, so only numbering from 1-6 (or thereabouts) will be a real paradigm shift.

  5. jupes

    Swans smashing Hawks.

    Tippett 3.0 goals.

    Franklin 0.5 goals.

    LOL

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    not a reference to real blades of renown

    Carppe – If you happen to have the Honjo Masamune you can let us into the secret. Not sure what you could get for it, perhaps a hundred billion yen? They value their history in Japan.

  7. Carpe Jugulum

    Swans smashing Hawks.

    Good to see they televise the baptist ladies netball league.

    Go the Nanas.

  8. jupes

    Good to see they televise the baptist ladies netball league.

    Ease up Carpe.

    The people running it may be gay but they produce a compelling product.

    And they have never banned anyone for a ‘homophobic’ slur (yet).

  9. Carpe Jugulum

    If you happen to have the Honjo Masamune you can let us into the secret.

    If i had one of those i would be a millionair playboy now.

    Seriously though, Lady Jugulum has seen one and they are a thing of beauty, flawlessly polished with a light grey wavy line along the blade.

  10. Carpe Jugulum

    Ahahahaha, Carpe.

    You have no idea how glad i am someone got the joke. :)

    *wipes sweat from brow*

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    If i had one of those i would be a millionair playboy now.

    The Honjo Masamune is sort of special. It was Tokugawa Ieyasu’s blade, by which time it was already 300 years old. Yes, that Tokugawa. It is the Japanese Excalibur. Seriously unique.

  12. Gab

    light grey wavy line along the blade.

    The hamon. Hamon. Deary me.

  13. kae

    I think that they interviewed Green. Here’s what he said.

  14. Carpe Jugulum

    The hamon. Hamon. Deary me.

    Nie (notare hamon), on Masamune swords, the actual lines were called kinsuji, they were thought at the time to be like a lightening strike. (a bit supernatural)

    H/T to Lady Jugulum again, Lady Jugulum passes on her thanks Gab.

  15. Gab

    I got a new set of falsies today and took a selfie…

  16. Gab

    hehehe no worries, Carpe, it’s the only swoard part I remember. Btw, wiki says:

    kinsuji (金筋?, gold line) – short straight thin radiant black line of nie that appears in the temper-line (hamon)

    One reason why I didn’t bother to learn all the names is becuase there are so many and each is so very specific. Japanese attention to detail, I guess.

  17. john constantine

    the first wave of volunteers from the district ended up in prison camps after the fall of singapore.

    when they were freed, and loaded on the ships for home, like all good aussies, they got some souvineers.

    many crappy industrial imperial japanese pig-stickers came back, just swords taken off the lower and poorer guards. lot of farm sheds had em around, mainly run over the grinder to take the edges off so the kids could do sword fights without gutting themselves.

    always the stories though of family honour blades sent off with the officer class,ending up in dusty farm workshops…….although the blokes that ended up with the good ones had seen their mates chopped up with ‘em,and were never giving them back,,ever.

  18. Notafan

    have eurovision on at the moment and the TAC adds are on over and over and then there are the SBS ads…
    How much of SBS advertising revenue is just more government churn?
    And of course great gig for the Australian team who now present live from Europe because that is another great use of taxpayers money

  19. Rabz

    have eurovision on at the moment

    Are you some sort of masochist?

  20. Notafan

    I’m loving the obese Belgium singing ‘mother’ in English and so not quite right,
    Someone has to get their money’s worth:)
    Moldova next

  21. Gab

    And of course great gig for the Australian team

    When did Australia relocate to Europe?! Nobody tells me anything!

  22. Notafan

    Oh you know the ones that make smart cracks in Aussie accents and their technical crew.

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Richard Williams was fined ten pounds.

    In 1829? Bloody expensive “How”s your father.” Anybody care to translate ten pounds in 1829 money to today’s equivalent?

  24. jupes

    Hawks in front at 3/4 time.

    Tippett 4.0 goals

    Franklin 0.7 goals

    Australian of the Year subbed out.

    Great game.

  25. Notafan

    Dutch country and western on now, you are missing a treat Rabz

  26. Carpe Jugulum

    always the stories though of family honour blades sent off with the officer class

    A lot of highly valuable family swords were cut down because the IJA declared that swords must be only 3 feet long.

    A lot of history was lost because of that order, because they were always shortened from the tang, so the makers mark was lost.

    WW2 destroyed a lot of classic bladed weapons, not by their enemy but by imperial decree. What a fvking waste.

  27. Carpe Jugulum

    Japanese attention to detail, I guess.

    Lady Jugulum thanks you.

  28. Notafan

    There was a show on SBS? a while back that the US occupying forces in Japan confiscated all swords and a lot of valuable ones were destroyed.

  29. Carpe Jugulum

    Hawks in front at 3/4 time.

    Big comeback expected from the Baptist Ladies Netball Team.

  30. used to have a katakana sword at one time

    Best typo EVAH.

    Yair, I was just thinking that. Couldn’t come up with a sufficiently witty riposte.

  31. Carpe Jugulum

    US occupying forces in Japan confiscated all swords and a lot of valuable ones were destroyed.

    I couldn’t comment on that but there are still a great deal of ‘family swords’ in Japan, some dating bck to the 13th century.

    As i mentioned above WW2 caused the loss of a lot of histotical weapons.

  32. Goro Nyudo Masamune he made swords in Sagami province from 1288-1328……..The man was a genius, he devised double quenching

    Being the first in several generations who isn’t a tradesman blacksmith, and who had to anneal crowbars ‘n’ stuff from a young age, is that “double quenching” what is called “annealing” in English?

    Nothing quite like stating in the pub that you can improve a crowbar tip so that it won’t blunt, ever. And no bastard ever believes you.

  33. As i mentioned above WW2 caused the loss of a lot of histotical weapons.

    It should have caused the loss of the Japanese race. Too late to apply that retrospecitvely.

  34. Notafan

    Sorry I should have qualified the US ordered the confiscation but there was an outcry and some were spared and I guess some were hidden

  35. Gab

    De nada, Carpe. :) Do itashimashite, Carpe-san.

    But seriously though, I bought peaches s pressies for my colleagues at Nara before returning to Kyoto. The most perfect peaches ever and each one individually wrapped in the box. (Not like we have them here all loose in the box).

    And then there was my first taxi ride where the poor driver nearly freaked pout as I went to grab the chrome handle of his taxi, not knowing the doors are operated automatically so the chromes doesn’t get fingerprints on it.

    Detail. :)

    And then there was the time we shipped tons and tons of tiny red pills with a shiny coating to Japan, in huge bulk cartons. I”m talking pharmacetucial variety and tiny in size (did I mention that already?) One massively huge bulk carton was shipped back to Australia becuase they had found one table – just the one – with a partial fingerprint. Now of course they were in their rights to do this. Apparently they inspect every single tablet in the shipment under some powerful magnifiers as a normal part of their QC.

    Detail. :(

    Detail.

  36. Carpe Jugulum

    annealing” in English?

    correct, but it was also the start of carbon steel which was why his blades were so prized. Strong, sharp and durable.

  37. Carpe Jugulum

    Detail.

    Konbanwa Gabesama – Pickled plums from Kobe – you will be hooked for life.

    Bugger, i should import those bad boys.

  38. correct, but it was also the start of carbon steel

    Thanks Carpe. I’m an over-the-top Japanophile (since I was 12yo). I’ll look more into that another day.

  39. Gab

    Oh and my very best regards to Kyou Jugulum-san, Carpe. :)

  40. jupes

    Swans win by 19 points.

    Franklin’s contribution 2.7 goals – 19 points.

  41. Carpe Jugulum

    Gabsama – arigatou gozaimashita, gozaru – Gabesama, domo.

  42. Gab

    You’re not from Kyoto are you, Carpe?

  43. Carpe Jugulum

    My thanks to Gab & Steve aTP, at least someone gets my lame overseas jokes & history lesons.

    Good evening to you all, it is my pleasure.

  44. Gab

    gozaru – to be. Ahsodesne.

  45. Leo G

    You have no idea how glad i am someone got the joke.

    Katana/katakana should be good for a jokoto.

  46. Carpe Jugulum

    You’re not from Kyoto are you, Carpe?

    No i’m from (originally NSW/QLD), we live in Kobe, up towards Arima Onsen on the Eastern ranges.

    Gozaru – it means, to show respect or thanks on a personal level. It was the base word that originally formed gozaimasu. It is just a little more one on one.

  47. Carpe Jugulum

    Swans win by 19 points.

    How did the baptist Ladies Netball Tem do?

  48. Gab

    Sorry, I know you’re from here originally, Carpe, I meant you’re not located in Kyoto becuase some of the words you use are a little different from words used in Kyoto – not that I’m an expert in the language.

  49. Armadillo

    I landed in NY once and saw a Concord coming in to land just after getting off my plane.

    Mrs A got to see inside one, but had to watched it leave from the Airport lounge. The Shah of Iran had 4 on order prior to the revolution, and her father was going to move onto flying them once delivered. Her parents both went on the test flight, and her father got to fly it for about 15 minutes. He reckoned they were awesome. Since the revolution, the general public travels by donkey or camel – as it should be. No doubt the mullahs always travel first class when they fly to countries that don’t have sanctions against them, but never on a Concord obviously.

  50. C.L.

    Just as well they didn’t allegedly rape a teenager or I’d have to censor the names:

    Joe Hockey and Mathias Cormann caught smoking cigars outside Parliament House.

    Welcome to Taliban Australia – brought to you by the left and dickhead journalists.

  51. Sinclair Davidson

    CL – smoking cigars to celebrate raising taxes. Fuck em.

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For those who are interested in military history – currently re reading Sydney Jary’s book “18 Platoon.”

    Jary went to 4th Battalion, Somerset Light Infantry, in July 1944. By the time of the German surrender in May 1945, he was the only platoon commander in the whole battalion who wasn’t K.I.A. or W.I.A.

    He describes going for a job just after discharge.

    “He eyed me coldly. Slowly and precisely from his desk he lifted a ruler, which he rudely pointed at my face. “I understand that you made a slight name for yourself in the war. Be that as it may, people like you, Jary, should remember that, while you have been gallivanting around the world, most of my staff have remained loyal to the company. If you can give me one valid reason why I should even consider you for any position I should be interested to hear it.”

    Jary adds, with commendable restraint, “I nearly hit him.” F.M.D.

  53. Gab

    Thanks heavens they didn’t have a snifter of brandy as well otherwise they’d be beheaded.

  54. C.L.

    You’re assuming cigars are, by definition, celebratory.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

  55. Gab

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    That’s what Jung said to Freud!

  56. Sinclair Davidson

    Gab – anyone drinking brandy deserves everything bad that happens to them. I’m happy to behead tax tyrants anyday.

  57. Sinclair Davidson

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    As Monica said to Bill.

  58. Infidel Tiger

    CL – smoking cigars to celebrate raising taxes. Fuck em.

    That’s the spirit! Especially when those two pricks are not only in a government that has continued the war on smoking but will most likely slug them again on Tuesday.

    No retreat, no surrender.

  59. Infidel Tiger

    What’s wrong with brandy?

  60. twostix

    many crappy industrial imperial japanese pig-stickers came back, just swords taken off the lower and poorer guards. lot of farm sheds had em around, mainly run over the grinder to take the edges off so the kids could do sword fights without gutting themselves.

    My grandfather had a sword he liberated from an (alleged) officer – but it may have just been some low level guy -I never actually heard him say “officer” and these things get exaggerated by children and grandchildren. Anyway I don’t know if it was any good or not but my nanna used to use it to cut the heads off snakes that appeared around the farmhouse for decades. Eventually the handle was also duct-taped up in fine granddad tradition after he ran over it in the Kingswood.

  61. Sinclair Davidson

    What’s wrong with brandy?

    Starting with the taste …

  62. Armadillo

    What’s wrong with brandy?

    If it’s in a cake, probably nothing.

  63. Infidel Tiger

    Yeah, Brandy is best reserved for Granny’s and French people in my book.

    I remember we had an elderly neighbour that would go through a crate of St Agnes every week. For medicinal purposes only of course.

  64. Sinclair Davidson

    Very good.

  65. Armadillo

    Brandy may have a use after all? People who don’t usually drink deserve to live like the rest of us.

    In the movie Days of Wine and Roses, alcoholic Joe Clay (Jack Lemmon) takes Kirsten Arnesen (Lee Remick) out on a date. When she explains that she dislikes liquor but likes chocolate, he orders her a Brandy Alexander, starting her on her path to self-destruction.

  66. Steve R W

    JC
    #1296749, posted on May 8, 2014 at 12:55 am

    For people the Stevie mark 11.

    “There was never any restrictions on US banks engaging in debt trading. They have always dealt in some form of securitized debt. So STFU up about shit you don’t understand.”

    Oh offs.

    Tell us about the history and pressure put on President Clinton to repeal Glass Steagall. And then think about what you are saying. There was a massive institutional global banking push to have that legislation repealed. And why do you think that was?

    And look what transpired.

  67. Gab

    Have we all seen the smallest 3D pen? You know, for when you want to doodle in 3D?

    http://twistedsifter.com/2014/04/lix-worlds-smallest-3d-printing-pen/

  68. Infidel Tiger

    Lurpak’s commercial is awesome.

    Lurpak is awesome. Maybe I should get back to talking about butter and industrial meat slicers. That was far more fun than talking about what a bunch c u next tuesdays Abbott and Hockey are.

  69. Leo G

    Cigar-smoking, brandy-sipping tax tyrant- a Jungian archetype?

  70. Joe Hockey and Mathias Cormann caught smoking cigars outside Parliament House.

    Aahh, saw that on the news, but had the sound off, now understand.
    Don’t mind about 3 cigars per year myself.
    I am a non-smoker & a teetotaller (the odd whisky/red excepted) but every blue moon, when I’ve had enough of the coalface in the salt mine, I can be found in the nearest pub (only 20 metres or so) where nobody bothers me (this makes my town different to anywhere in Australia). I get stuck into rum & coke (due to the downmarket nature of my neighbor’s business I’m forced to drink the most vile pommy crap on this planet, blunderberg horsepiss rum) talk to anybody & everybody, marvel at what a great country this is & how I’d never want to live in any other town, and chuff on one or two Romeo & Juliets. Usually a string of kids – who’ve only ever seen cigarettes – are curious & I’ll let ‘em have a puff.

  71. Armadillo

    SATP, ever tried Brandy? It could just be the drink for you.

  72. SATP, ever tried Brandy? It could just be the drink for you.

    Yeah, don’t much care for it. I love a decent single malt (have about 10 bottles on the personal shelf) & decent red (have an obscene amount in the personal cellar).
    Cigars make me sick. I’m hard pressed to front for work the day after having one, & have the grandaddy of sore throats.
    In the days before smoking laws, if I ever was in a nightclub I’d be too crook to work for about 3 days afterward, purely coz of the passive smoke inhalation.

    These days I can’t take nightclub coz of the concussion resonsance of the bass beat to the music. It bounces around my chest cavity & makes me so ill that I verge on vomiting.

  73. JC

    Steve RW

    Tell us about the history and pressure put on President Clinton to repeal Glass Steagall. And then think about what you are saying. There was a massive institutional global banking push to have that legislation repealed. And why do you think that was?

    And look what transpired.

    What’s the pressure of repeal have to do with it, you blundering fool?

    I’ll repeat, the securities the banks traded in which went belly up were backed by real estate loans to customers.

    There was never any restrictions on banks dealing in those securities prior to the repeal of Glass S. The move towards far more securitization happened in the early 90′s pushed hard by the SEC.

  74. Gab

    He appears to be a Socialist first and foremost and a pope as an afterthought.

  75. JC

    It’s pretty sad when the head of the Catholic church goes full retard. He should never go full retard, as it’s part of the job description.

  76. JC

    Who’s left now anyway. The mainstream Prot churches have basically disintegrated. The Catholic Church has a fabian running it who’s gone full retard and the evangelicals a freaking lunatics.

    There’s little choice to to go muzzo I reckon. If people don’t see me here on Friday’s it’s because I’m at prayer in the local mosque. I think I’m going to have a little resistance having wife dress in a burka though, as it will too much trouble wearing it to gym and golf. (I can’t understand how she’s had around 3 years of golf lessons and played about one game.)

  77. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Zulu Kilo Two Alpha at 9:45 pm

    ” Richard Williams was fined ten pounds.

    In 1829? Bloody expensive “How”s your father.” Anybody care to translate ten pounds in 1829 money to today’s equivalent?”

    ABS produced a “Retail Price Index – 1850 to 2000 ” in Year Book Australia 1995 showing indices for 1850 as 53 and for 2000 as 2289 (2.5% pa). Extrapolating that back to 1829 we find ten quid from 1829 is worth $1,463 in 2000 dollars.

    CPI All Groups indices has 2000 as 70.2 and 2014 as 105.4 (2.9% pa).

    Dickie Williams was up for $2,197 in today’s dollars.

  78. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From C.L. at 10:54 pm:

    “Just as well they didn’t allegedly rape a teenager or I’d have to censor the names:

    Joe Hockey and Mathias Cormann caught smoking cigars outside Parliament House.

    Welcome to Taliban Australia – brought to you by the left and dickhead journalists.”

    That’s plain wrong.

    If Hockey does something unremarkable, like having a smoke or leaning against the wall chewing gum and yarning to the parliamentary cleaning staff then he ought to be left undisturbed.

    It’s up there with the nanny NSW attorney general being publicly astonished and alarmed at the Packer and Gyngell single round bout last Sunday.

    “Police launched an investigation two days later following concerns raised directly with police and in the media.

    About 300 images and footage taken by paparazzo Brendan Beirne were handed over to police …” (SMH May 9).

    “300 images?” 300?!?!

    They lurk about searching for something to flog to the media which feeds the voyeuristic bent of idle, simple minds, including that of the attorney general. The Police Commissioner should have announced “Do not waste my officers’ time, go away” but no, the cops spend time typing out and delivering formal charges when they really need to be out patrolling the Cross or the Valley to discourage drunken baboons killing each other for fun.

    What a twisted society, so determined to interfere and find fault.

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