Jonathan Green says the nicest things

Howard, of course, had the great benefit of governing before the recent fashion for bright young Windsor-knotted think-tankers who style themselves “classical liberals”, and plead a no-prisoners libertarianism that insists that government should work with an almost anorexic enthusiasm for the reduction of, well, government, as the sworn enemy of individual effort, and the devil take the hindmost. To the concerned bystander, the tendency is to create confusion with more time-worn and gentler expressions of the Liberal brand.

And that’s Tony Abbott’s problem, to be governing in a time of fervour and impatience, a time when many in conservative politics are sniffing long-unresolved opportunity while taking in their inherited world with the steely glint of the one-eyed ideologue.

Source.

At the moment I’m scheduled to appear on his Sunday morning show and instead of wearing one of my very stylish hipster floral shirts I’m going to have to wear a tie. Windor knotted.

More seriously I have noticed increasing references by the MSM to either classical liberal or libertarian arguments. This is a good thing.

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63 Responses to Jonathan Green says the nicest things

  1. Nick Ferrett

    At the moment I’m scheduled to appear on his Sunday morning show and instead of wearing one of my very stylish hipster floral shirts I’m going to have to wear a tie. Windor knotted.

    Sinclair, would you please list the items of clothing which you own and which at least one member of your household considers to be fashionable?

  2. .

    More seriously I have noticed increasing references by the MSM to either classical liberal or libertarian arguments. This is a good thing.

    Damn right.

    They are posessed by lefties however. They won’t admit people vote for the LDP, because it scares the crap out of them – because they hate freedom, which the LDP or IPA etc promote.

    The capacity to prosper through hard work and savings, and a return of civil liberties our grandfathers died for, literally scares these people.

    I finally believe the conservative theory that the universities, where they learned journalism, have been captured by the far left. It is the only explanation of their hostility or willful ignorance of libertarianism.

  3. .

    The pooch, Nick, he asks the Shi Tzu the kids have had since they were five. Doggie obliges and wags tail…

  4. jupes

    Sinc how about you treat Green with disdain this Sunday.

    I reckon a numptie like me could beclown the prize twit so it should be too easy for you.

  5. tgs

    And that’s Tony Abbott’s problem, to be governing in a time of fervour and impatience, a time when many in conservative politics are sniffing long-unresolved opportunity while taking in their inherited world with the steely glint of the one-eyed ideologue.

    Sniffing. Inherited world. Steely glint of the one-eyed ideologue.

    Jonathon Green has a talent for using language to dehumanise those with whom he has political disagreements with. My particular favourite is the inherited world phrase, as it infers overtones of class war (i.e. all rich people are rich because of inherent, systemic unfairness) but provide plausible deniability to the author who can claim that he merely meant that this state of the world is inherited by all.

  6. Nick Ferrett

    Dogs are colour-blind

  7. Squirrel

    I don’t follow Mr Green’s work, but I hope and trust he writes with equal acuity about the bright young and youngish things of the Left – that would be a treat.

  8. Gab

    instead of wearing one of my very stylish hipster floral shirts

    Oh good grief!

  9. nic

    What a pity Jonathan doesn’t expand more upon just what it was that the Libs ‘inherited’. That alone would be more illustrative.

  10. Pyrmonter

    Sinc: get a decent bow tie with a white shirt and grey jacket. It’s worked before:

    http://goo.gl/8h2PdP

    http://goo.gl/2GXAwo

  11. calli

    instead of wearing one of my very stylish hipster floral shirts

    Horror! He’s morphing into Dr. Karl.

  12. egg_

    Sniffing. Inherited world. Steely glint of the one-eyed ideologue.

    Yup, Green puts his usual twisted twist on things.

  13. Gab

    He’s morphing into Dr. Karl.

    It’s sad to watch the process and all, Calli. Still, the Doomlord did at least get rid of that evil facial fur he’s been sporting. So that’s something.

  14. nic

    Still, the Doomlord did at least get rid of that evil facial fur he’s been sporting. So that’s something.

    Being offered the halal meal on Malaysian and called ‘brother’ must have had an effect :)

  15. Token

    At the moment I’m scheduled to appear on his Sunday morning show and instead of wearing one of my very stylish hipster floral shirts I’m going to have to wear a tie. Windor knotted.

    The stupidity & hypocricy of the Fitzroy Millionaire is astounding.

    This is the same leftard who joins in the “mysogyny” chorus when someone notes the clothing on a lefty woman.

  16. Grigory M

    steely glint of the one-eyed ideologue

    Waleed Ali.

  17. Suggest this for a tie.

    Few people actually do tie the classic Windsor knot and really it’s not worth it. According to the Encyclopaedia of Tie Knots, James Bond considers the Windsor ‘the mark of the cad’! The knot I learned as a kid was the co-half-Windsor; these days I quite like the Balthus. Why don’t you give that a go, Sinc? The knotting method is counter-intuitive at first but comes out with a beautiful knot and Green won’t know the difference.

    /taking an offhand joke too seriously by far.

  18. calli

    the Doomlord did at least get rid of that evil facial fur

    Dunno. The ‘Ming the Merciless’ look had a certain…malevolence. Frighten the foe into submission and all that. Although, on second thoughts, he could do that with the mankini.

  19. Gab

    lol Thanks, nic. I was thinking along the same lines but didn’t want to say.

  20. James of the Glen

    “Howard, of course, had the great benefit of governing before the recent fashion for bright young Windsor-knotted think-tankers who style themselves “classical liberals”, and plead a no-prisoners libertarianism that insists that government should work with an almost anorexic enthusiasm for the reduction of, well, government, as the sworn enemy of individual effort, and the devil take the hindmost. ”

    Clumsy, amateurish, pretentious Adult Education writing course garbage.

  21. Grigory M

    he writes with equal acuity

    Acuity? – nothing too sharp in that bullshit. FFS – I amost needed the SatNav to navigate through that first convoluted sentence. Green is a pretentious fuckwit who knows fuck-all about the real world – and please feel free to tell him so on Sunday morning, Sinc.

  22. Tom

    their inherited world

    It’s the same one that you and your white wife and two white children inherited, sport, through the strength of our marvellous democratic capitalist system that has evolved over the past 1000 years in spite of the best efforts of totalitarian plankton like you to destroy it.

    And it exists only through the magnanimity of net taxpayers, of whom you’re not one.

  23. .

    Green is off his dial. I don’t care what he does on his own, how drunk or high he gets, but presumably he wrote this whilst in the pay of the ABC.

    Government is the enemy of individual effort. No one else taxes us. No one else qualifies what speech we can use. No one else can tell us whom to associate with.

  24. Token

    Clumsy, amateurish, pretentious Adult Education writing course garbage.

    …from the former editor of The Age & ABC’s The Dumb online.

  25. cohenite

    I despise the abc; Green is an avowed alarmist but when he ran The fucking Drum he published some sceptical articles; the thing who has replaced him has banned all sceptics and if possible The fucking Drum has declined further; if a flat line of pus can be said to decline further.

  26. Grigory M

    As to your Sunday morning attire – aren’t paisley ties, bell-bottoms and platform shoes making a come-back?

  27. H B Bear

    How is it possible to take Moose Knuckles seriously?

    Does anyone?

  28. Steve D

    A lime green mankini showing through a crisp white business shirt?

    [Ducks]

  29. James In Footscray

    ‘bright young Windsor-knotted think-tankers’

    This is only referring to Tim Wilson, isn’t it? He’s the inner-city ABC lovers’ Prince of Darkness.

    Incidentally have you noticed in some countries male officials don’t do up their top button? Does that say anything? You’d never see someone with authority in Denmark or Japan with their top button undone – but in Russia or China, all the time.

  30. H B Bear

    More seriously I have noticed increasing references by the MSM to either classical liberal or libertarian arguments. This is a good thing.

    It is inevitably done with disdain or a sneer. Just like Albasleazy and his reference to fighting Tories.

    While most people still think that they get more from government than they pay in taxes, there will always be an ongoing cry of “the government needs to do something” for every perceived problem in the world. Some people don’t even go as far as making that connection. Particularly at the ALPBC.

  31. More seriously I have noticed increasing references by the MSM to either classical liberal or libertarian arguments. This is a good thing.

    Christ Almighty, Doomlord. They’re just sucking up to to the Right because we’ve got the purse at the moment.
    Their references will disappear like a teaspoon of snow in a furnace as soon as they get more money.

  32. gabrianga

    Why so harsh about the “Ugly Australian”?

    Obviously a fountain of knowledge “our” ABC advertises this florid misfit as the man with all the solutions

    What’s in the Sunday papers?

    Leave the papers on the porch and let Jonathan guide you through the weekend’s most important news.

    Are they friggin’ serious?

  33. egg_

    A lime green mankini showing through a crisp white business shirt?

    Tieless, slightly unbuttoned with just a hint of manboob?

  34. Rabz

    I’m going to have to wear a tie.

    Will I need to wear sunglasses while taking in this televisual spectacular?

  35. Notafan

    Is being called ‘bright young ‘ more similar to ‘ Chaser Boys’ or ‘young and naive’?
    At what point does one qualify as a mature adult in Green world?

  36. H B Bear

    I’m pretty sure Moose Knuckles didn’t have anything positive to say about Howard when he was in office. As a big government Conservative, it is easy to see why the Left don’t see him as the main ideological threat.

  37. MemoryVault

    instead of wearing one of my very stylish hipster floral shirts I’m going to have to wear a tie.

    Nah, Sinc.
    Go the whole hog, and instead of talking to Green, you can sing the Lib Luvvies Anthem.
    Bolt, Mcrann, stackja whyisitso and others of the party faithful here will love you for it.

  38. Major Elvis Newton

    Sinc,

    If we are going for historical accuracy, maybe you could query the Viscount of Fitzroy’s claim in his recent fictional tome that Julia Gillard qualified her “there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead” by insisting she always planned to “put a price on carbon”.

    It seems no factual evidence can be found that corroborates his particular version of history.

    Maybe you could have a try.

  39. MACK1

    One point to make to Mr Green, as evidenced by his latest outburst: the left do not know or understand people on the free enterprise side of politics, whereas we know and understand them.

  40. gabrianga

    Perhaps Mr Green knows more about “free” enterprise than given credit for?

    Free advertising on ABC. Free travel on the Australian taxpayer. Free shots at Abbott and Coalition on daily basis. Free transfers from Fairfax dailies to Crikey to ABC.

  41. Baldrick

    … I’m going to have to wear a tie. Windor knotted.

    What’s a Windor?

  42. So, apparently the great qualities of Howard were flexibility of principle and a willingness to put the expedient ahead of the rational. Sounds right to me.

  43. Bear Necessities

    File down the horns on your head too Sinc and make sure you tail doesn’t stick out. You don’t want to give away who your father is. (Sarc)

  44. struth

    So states the public servant.
    Says it all really.

  45. With apologies to Voltaire: “If a class system did not exist, it would have to be invented.”

  46. Sir Fred Lenin

    The cloest the Rich Soshalists ever get to the Wukkas is when they pay close to one million dollars for a slum cottage in Fitzroy ,or some other inner city Slum.you epwalk down a street there and are astounded at the sum the mortgages would amount to.retrenching a lot of public servants would cause endless pain in these areas,the banks would NOT be pleased!

  47. Simon

    They are frightened, and rightly so, to name the enemy just in case their brainwashed fanatics find and study the opponent, returning less convinced or not returning at all. It’s the eternal problem with useful idiots… let them use their initiative and they stop being useful or start looking like idiots. Either way they never appreciate you for it.

  48. J.H.

    Yep a good thing indeed. I use the word liberalism at every opportunity when describing our “conservative” politics in Australia. Setting it clearly apart from Labor’s socialism or the Green’s ecofascism.

    … and in America, the Republicans really need to rescue the word back from the democrats who use it to describe their democratic “progressive” socialism…. which everyone mistakes as being “liberal”….. a freakin’ farce if there ever was one.

  49. WhaleHunt Fun

    One point to make to Mr Green, as evidenced by his latest outburst: the left do not know or understand people on the free enterprise side of politics, whereas we know and understand them.

    Just ask ‘Why do you lie so much when you know it makes you sound like Gillard?’

  50. outsider

    So it’s a common theme – the enemy must be engaged in the court of public discourse…most good-thinking Australians will come around after the obligatory period of debriefing – rather like how you might deal with scientology dupes.

    We need a 50% exposure though…which is why the noisy left are trying their hardest to maintain near-total dominance of the public megaphone, lest their case collapse under the weight of it many contradictions. Many of them secretly doubt their own views – it is hard to face yourself being a perpetual adolescent without developing a bad case of self-loathing.

  51. JakartaJaap

    Moose Man is our servant, right? Why can’t we sack him?

  52. Toiling Mass

    The thing about Gillard saying there would be no carbon tax under a government she led, but that she left the door ajar by stipulating that she would nevertheless be “puddin’ a proice” on carbon is a bit of a nonsense.

    The one form of “puddin’ a proice” she promised that she would not implment (i.e. a tax) was the one she implemented. Out of all the schemes for charging people for producing CO2 she chooses the one that makes her a liar.

    She truly revealed her nature there.

  53. manalive

    … a no-prisoners libertarianism that insists that government should work with an almost anorexic enthusiasm for the reduction of, well, government … To the concerned bystander, the tendency is to create confusion with more time-worn and gentler expressions of the Liberal brand …

    LOL, Green is pretending to be a disinterested ‘bystander’.

  54. Mick of Brisbane

    ’tis a good thing, mention of libertarianism, that is. Many may find they actually identify with it rather than the sanctimonious bleatings.

  55. tomix

    So- the first hint of rebellion against the misogynistic homophobe and the ABC are [almost] defending him. Interesting.

  56. manalive

    At the moment I’m scheduled to appear on his Sunday morning show …

    Hey Sinc, when you get on can you please ask him how much the Australian taxpayer is paying him for a few hours work a week for say two thirds of the normal working year and whether he is at all embarrassed to be using the taxpayer funded Drum as a soapbox to push his own and ABC mates’ interests?

  57. Token

    More seriously I have noticed increasing references by the MSM to either classical liberal or libertarian arguments. This is a good thing.

    Too often it is in a context similar to the way the Tea Party is discussed in the US.

  58. dan

    This Jonathan guy sounds superb. God how I love the idea of the “anorexic” economy/state that is psychotically averse to taking in taxes and which withers away completely. It’s not even politically correct.
    The Anorexic State.

  59. Andrew

    The one form of “puddin’ a proice” she promised that she would not implment (i.e. a tax) was the one she implemented.

    No, she ruled out all proices on caaarbin. Her next sentence was to promise Direct Action.

  60. Andrew

    Tell the grub that the 13th century called – they want their energy policy back. Fucking windmills – filthies like him have a nerve saying Abbott666 is taking us backwards.

  61. Habib

    Howard was never a liberal. Green is a slapheaded socialist, who should be set afire.

  62. Free Advice

    The problem with public service types like Green is that they have no idea or care about the financial imperative that drives the rest of society (66.6%).
    Just read some of the undergraduate stuff that Jericho writes.
    Bludgers that bite the hand that feeds comes to mind.
    Oh and don’t forget the 16% superannuation and 3 month “well earned breaks” these types enjoy.
    How could they possibly turn a profit for anyone they work for?

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