Budget 2014 Thread

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  1. Baldrick

    Scripts up $5 each, no doubt to keep the ABC and SBS from further CUTZ!

  2. .

    It already has pete.

    As for yourself, I note Robert Frost’s view on personal responsibility and choice…

  3. Gab

    So much for Abbott’s promise to cut spending. Another promise broken as spending increases each year.

  4. .

    john – my experience is native saplings don’t need any help in establishing themselves in those conditions. Is that correct?

  5. john constantine

    if the borders are secure, does the asylum seeker resource center still need the same level of funding?.

  6. Splatacrobat

    Great budget.
    Budget 2014: bad cop
    Budget 2015: good cop
    Budget 2016: social worker

  7. Baldrick

    I’m coming out …
    I wish to retract anything I’ve said in favour of Hockey and Abbott over the past several days.

  8. JC

    No John, they obviously don’t , which is why they accounted for around $2.5 billion in savings from this area.

  9. JABL

    When I was a Liberal Student along with people like Sophie P & Ernie Z & the rest, Marise Payne and staples were young liberal phuqing careerists. Prepared to sell their own grannie to get ahead. Oh and Peter Phelps who now wants to be such a hard arse was also a YL wannabe in those days.

    Short form. Former fat boy squibs no surprise, no surprise at all.

  10. The Hunted Mind

    This budget actually follows my advice to the Libs posted on this site a few days ago:

    Leave the debt there. Make the fucking dickheaded public understand that they can’t just party with Labor and then expect the Libs to be the good guys and clean up after them.

  11. Gab

    This budget will drive more people towards Clive Plamer.

  12. JC

    The currency took it is as a big yawn. There was no drop, which means the punters don’t see anything contradictionary in this budget. Aussie sitting around 93.50 cents to the US Dollar.

  13. Peter from SA

    God. I’m a natural optimist and was hoping for a good budget. At least for the country.

    Instead … I get Tim Flannery on the TV … presumably a well paid gig for him. Is this a sick joke?

    To paraphrase the guy from the Mawson Expedition. I’m going outside and might be a while …

  14. john constantine

    natural tree regeneration cannot be spoken highly enough of for simple speed and efficiency.

    the cost is in protecting the regeneration from grazing and browsing, but after a time, depending on species, periodic grazing can be reintroduced. [living haystack style management]

    risk is that creeks and waterlines are prime positions for reveg, and in the last big flood event i lost several miles of reveg protecting fencing. keeps you in practise.

  15. pete m

    Dot – my family made some tough choices to fund our 2 kids – sold assets, stopped work for mum to look after kids, and she only did small part-time work until all well into school years. It has cost us hundreds of thousands to make this choice. We did it willingly, we saved hard, we didn’t ask for a $ from any govt and we’re happy.

    So now it is back to f/t work for mum next year so we can afford to replace cars and go on nice holidays – again our choice.

    We don’t hide from taxes being payg people. We contribute to charities – both $ and more importantly time. We’re happy.

    So what part of my story makes you think we give 2 shits about running screaming from an lnp govt trying their best to govern for us all?

    You don’t know me, speak for me or imagine my fellings.

    The ldp will not govern anywhere anytime for a very long time, if ever. I don’t give a rats about them. I do hope they can do some deals to improve govt policy, that’s about it.

    The budget is ok – I’d cut defence spending and don’t see why we need to spend 2% GDP on it, before going near pensions. Each to their own.

  16. Splatacrobat

    Geeze the ABC going full retard interviewing “real Australians” for their reactions. All doom and gloom, “nothing in it for me” etc.

    This must mean it’s going to be a success.

  17. eb

    Dot, I’ll be might joining you in the ranks of the LDP, etc.
    BUT, let’s be realistic. For all IT’s claiming that Abbott is gone, the Liberal base aren’t all high wealth libertarians. This Budget is moving in the right direction within the constraints of the expectations of the electorate. For every pissed-off Catallaxian, who will vote LDP, (but still preference Libs before Labs), there are 1,000 LIV’s who need to be convinced that cuts need to be made, and believe that the pain needs to be shared.
    If we are to move towards a libertarian society, it has be by small increments, not the big bang. Consider how the left managed to become the dominant paradigm, the roll back of the left can only be done the same way.

  18. .

    So what part of my story makes you think we give 2 shits about running screaming from an lnp govt trying their best to govern for us all?

    They’re doing their best are they?

    If I joined the Liberal party instead of the LDP about a decade ago, tonight would have been the night I revoked my membership.

    “Governing for all” is where they fall down. No one wants Direct Action. The PPL is welfare for high income electorates. The excise tax hike is going to hit low income earners int he worst possible way.

  19. A H

    @Bert

    Perhaps it is just a hate government blog?

    It’s called Libertarianism.

  20. pete m

    Dot, bad medicine should not be removed cold turkey.

  21. Demosthenes

    Gittins says “economically” it’s a great budget.

  22. Notafan

    Dsp can only travel overseas once for a maximum of four weeks in twelve month period before payments suspension, previously up to six weeks as often as they wanted. Students now get suspension for anything except study and family emergency. Not huge savings but getting paid welfare while on overseas holidays seems ridiculous. Huge savings proposed in HECs, lower threshold for repayments and higher interest rate on the amount it looks like, that is assuming graduates take up paid employment.

  23. .

    Yes it bloody should.

    Name one thing that will go wrong tomorrow if Direct Action is scrapped and the fuel excise is cut…

  24. Arnost

    This medical research stuff is such a load of BS. Every pollie loves swallowing shite about “clever investment” etc.

    Yes – as Gab said a poor imitation. And I’d bet that this was done on the back of drinks coaster on Friday. Very poorly thought out.

    Now if they did think about it: they would have set it up as the Aged Medical Supplement Fund, which could have been a safety net and used to pay the medical costs of the ageing population in the future where they didn’t have adequate health cover. (I know I know – but they would have had come up with the funds in any case).

    As was intimated somewhere above – I can see threats or SARS / MERS or virulent and potentially lethal mutations of tape worms around every corner and sincere lab coated PhD’d mendicants demanding access to the fund to do anther study on how to prevent disastrous global warming global worming…

  25. bingbing

    Could be better, but overall not too bad.

  26. egg_

    This budget will drive more people towards Clive Plamer.

    Yup, the main beneficiary – must be laughing his @rse orf.

  27. .

    Demosthenes
    #1304437, posted on May 13, 2014 at 9:29 pm
    Gittins says “economically” it’s a great budget.

    Gittens is an auditor with very bad fashion sense. He is not qualified to comment and has never written an article on economics that makes sense, is theoretically grounded or is empirically true. If there is an external shock, the budget is rooted. They have not gone after any operational inefficiencies in any meaningful way, furthermore, new items like a health research fund are out of the blue thought bubbles (the idea of earning the bond rate on funds which have cost at least $1.20 for each $1.00 of revenue collected is a dud).

  28. Splatacrobat

    The reality is that the best Labor budget over the last six years doesn’t even come close to addressing debt and deficit like Joe’s first budget does.

  29. Leigh Lowe

    Where’s the funding for orange lifeboats?
    I wanted it specifically mentioned.

  30. Infidel Tiger

    Gittins says “economically” it’s a great budget.

    Wow. I thought I was a complete cnut. That is some harsh shit.

    Joe will never live that down.

  31. Combine_Dave

    And of course, SMH have a poll – if you want to vote.

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/federal-budget-2014-winners-and-losers-20140513-38802.html#poll

    There was no option to vote ‘not hard enough’ on vulnerable people (like ABC employees).

  32. Arnost

    This budget will drive more people towards Clive Plamer.

    Yup, the main beneficiary – must be laughing his @rse orf

    The main game since the last election for Palmer and the Greens has been to position for the what looked inevitable DD. They would be the biggest beneficiaries with larger representation in the Senate. The question now is that with the pols possibly becoming locked in the negative for Abbott: will he have the guts to pull that trigger. Will the newly elected MPs in the marginal let him? Or roll him if he does have the guts!

  33. MemoryVault

    Don’t forget your retired parents if you’re doing this. You can pay them about $880 a month before it affects the full age pension.

    The trouble with honest people is they think small.
    Forget about paying Nan and Pop babysitting to avoid the small amount of the hard work tax.
    Give the kids to Nan and Pop.
    This is accomplished by Nan and Pop simply claiming the kids as dependents on their pension.
    Nothing else – it’s not as if the kids have to move in with them or anything.

    Nan and Pop will then get all the extra monies and benefits for kids payable to anyone on welfare, including the bulk of the Family Tax Benefits. If Pop uses his mobility scooter to earn a few bucks delivering some pamphlets into letterboxes, then Nan and Pop will get ALL of FTB A and B.

    Nan and Pop will now be better off by many thousands of dollars a year. All tax free.
    Of course, Nan and Pop are getting on in years.
    So, as responsible children, you will want to ensure they get a regular break.
    So you pay a couple who are friends of Nan and Pop, and have no relevant grandchildren of their own, a fee for them to babysit the children weekends. It’s not as if the kids have to actually go stay with them or anything. Now Nan and Pops friends are on the gravy train and you have avoided the work hard tax.

    If we are talking two or three kids, then we are talking $25,000 to $35,000 a year between all of you.
    All tax free. I’m not making this up.
    Various government funded agencies (paid for by you, the taxpayer), have been teaching our indigenous brothers and sisters to milk the system precisely this way, since the early Eighties. They even fill out the forms for them. More recently other government funded agencies (also paid for by you) have been teaching the same skills to our economic boat migrants.

    The bottom line is, the system is being rorted blind to the tune of billions of dollars a year, has been for over thirty years now, and the current government, elected on the basis of “doing something”, has chosen instead to continue with “business as usual”.

    Fine.
    We are headed for economic oblivion.
    You may as well get your cut while the going is good.
    I’ve told you how to do it.

  34. pete m

    Dot – I said bad medicine example – as in an existing program being radically changed, or instead being wound down. Your 2 are new moves – don’t bait and switch.

    eg of too sudden a change – Labor overnight shut down programs like overseas trade or insulation (they could have just stopped the foil type) without caring for the consequences.

    Instead, you wind them back to give industry time to adjust. The renewables is an industry employing people, so to completely remove overnight their support may be wonderful to you, but would wreck many businesses. Give them a short period to adjust.

    Unfortunately we’re locked into huge spending in future years on Gonski, NDIS and NBN without the revenue to pay for it, so other areas are copping it.

    It is a political budget to spread the pain.

    So now everyone is pissed – lol.

  35. Dismissive

    It’s fascinating to me that for all that is good and/or bad in the budget they only needed to do one thing to sell it to me.

    CUT SPENDING!

    Since they didn’t do that, they have zero credibility – there is no budget crisis obviously.

  36. pete m

    Here is the news.com.au result for me:

    Now we know. Here’s what it all means for you:

    No Change

    The changes of course are dr (mine bulk bills me as I’m a long term patient) and fuel – very minor overall.

  37. .

    Fine.
    We are headed for economic oblivion.
    You may as well get your cut while the going is good.
    I’ve told you how to do it.

    Won’t you also get the baby bonus since the kid is under 16?

  38. .

    Pete m

    DA doesn’t exist yet and fuel excise can be cut or abolished without anything like the pink batts occurring.

    Don’t be scared.

  39. Mindfree

    My response to Hockey

    Hi Joe

    Epic fail big time…why is the ABC still existing? Why do we have extra taxes? Why was the message not sent effectively that this was due to labor’s massive fuck ups?

    Not good. You do not make long term gains by pandering to short term political schmoozing

    And too many stupid platitudes – Shovels? That’s what that prize fuckwit POTUS Obama came up with

    Regards

  40. Perpetual Motion

    Uh Oh
    Next Tuesday I will be preparing a very large platter of shit sandwiches for all those Cats who are currently abandoning Hockey’s budget without having the slightest idea of what is in it. Talk about fair-weather friends.

    Hey Uh Oh, where’s my shit sandwich, or have you eaten them all yourself?

  41. Infidel Tiger

    Bloody hell MemoryVault.

    That’s some scary shit.

  42. The Hunted mind

    Interesting reading thanks Memory.

    How does paying Nan and Pop’s friends babysitting money achieve anything? Baby sitting fees aren’t tax deductible and how can the friends get anything out of it if they’re not actually getting the fees? I must be too honest and thinking small :)

  43. Docket62

    We are headed for economic oblivion.
    You may as well get your cut while the going is good.
    I’ve told you how to do it.

    Yes you have. But some of us want to sleep at night. I don’t care who rips the system off or for how long. If they can survive on those numbers then good for them.. But for most of us, these numbers won’t make a rip of difference. Fuel goes up and down 30 cents a litre in a week now, what’s a few more cents?

    If it gets a few half arsed ‘bachelors of arts’ out of bed before midday well “rah!” And if they quit because they realise they’ll actually have to repay the loan WITH interest… I’m up for that too.

    I couldn’t give a toss if TA broke whatever ‘promise’ he made.. He got handed shit on a plate, and decided to do something about it.. And the bleeding hearts will still vote labour because they know nothing else.

    They have my vote.

  44. .

    If Pop uses his mobility scooter to earn a few bucks delivering some pamphlets into letterboxes, then Nan and Pop will get ALL of FTB A and B.

    So is this if you declare $1 or more of income in a tax return?

    This is sick stuff. This is part of what the financial planning industry is about – explaining this crap – not creating wealth.

  45. MemoryVault

    Won’t you also get the baby bonus since the kid is under 16?

    I assume it would have already been paid to the original “Parents”.
    So my best guess would be ‘no’ Dot.
    But Nan and pop will qualify for everything else, both existing, and what comes along hereafter.

  46. Dismissive

    Just thinking about it, I would even have accepted a cut in Real Terms rather than absolute.

  47. .

    Yes you have. But some of us want to sleep at night. I don’t care who rips the system off or for how long. If they can survive on those numbers then good for them.. But for most of us, these numbers won’t make a rip of difference. Fuel goes up and down 30 cents a litre in a week now, what’s a few more cents?

    Are you serious? Fuel going up and down in price is to do with changes in demand. Do you think citrus dropping in price over winter absolves the government from bad decisions?

    The government collects over 50 c.p.l per lite in petrol most days.

    This shit matters. The money for milking the cow comes from somewhere.

  48. The Hunted mind

    Yes you have. But some of us want to sleep at night.

    Are you kidding? I will sleep better at night if I can get some revenge on the system.

  49. .

    MV

    http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/services/centrelink/baby-bonus

    Baby Bonus may be paid to your family following the birth or adoption of a child if:

    your child is born or adopted before 1 March 2014
    you are eligible for Family Tax Benefit for the child (disregarding the Family Tax Benefit income test) within 26 weeks of the child’s birth or after an adopted child enters your care before turning 16 years old, or
    you are claiming for a child other than your own and you started caring for the child within 26 weeks of the child’s birth and are likely to continue caring for the child for at least 26 weeks, and
    you or your partner are the primary carer of the child, and
    you meet the Baby Bonus income test, and
    you meet the residence requirements, and
    you have not received Parental Leave Pay for the child, and
    you make your claim no later than 52 weeks after the birth of the child or after the adopted child enters your care

    I can’t tell because I’ve never dealt with “The Link”…

  50. MemoryVault

    How does paying Nan and Pop’s friends babysitting money achieve anything? Baby sitting fees aren’t tax deductible

    You are not paying “babysitting”. You are providing “care relief” for an aged couple, which is claimable.
    You can actually apply for a subsidy for it if the tax deduction angle doesn’t apply.

  51. Infidel Tiger

    MV if I adopt your advice (and it’s very tempting) how often do I or the grandparents have to stand in line with the scum and filth that loiter around Centrelink offices?

  52. Docket62

    @ The Hunted mind
    “Are you kidding? I will sleep better at night if I can get some revenge on the system.”

    And you wonder why the system is broken…….

  53. Infidel Tiger

    @ The Hunted mind
    “Are you kidding? I will sleep better at night if I can get some revenge on the system.”

    And you wonder why the system is broken…….

    As Fat Joe said, “before we can claim an entitlement someone has to pay for it”. I want my turn leaning on the shovel. I’ve got blisters.

    You can’t fix the system. You can treat it like a little bitch though.

  54. David

    G’day Docket.

    How goes it?

  55. Docket62

    Dot…..
    “Are you serious? Fuel going up and down in price is to do with changes in demand. Do you think citrus dropping in price over winter absolves the government from bad decisions?”

    I drive a 5.5 litre twin turbo charged V8. The more the fuel costs the less cars get in my way. And it’s not a lemon in response to your citrus depreciation

  56. Arnost

    IT – Honour is what distinguishes us from the leftards.

  57. Docket62

    @David
    Splendidly DRA…… And good evening to you my friend

  58. Notafan

    Screen Australia down 5.2 million
    Arts Council down 9.6 million
    Other arts funding sitting under AG office down 4.4 million

  59. The Hunted Mind

    MV

    I’ll asking my accountant tomorrow why he’s never told me all this. Poor bastard is very honest but I know I’m one of his better clients. Hope his head doesn’t pop.

  60. David

    I drive a 5.5 litre twin turbo charged V8

    LOL Once a leather legged lout always a leather legged lout.

    :-)

  61. Gab

    Any mention of how they’re going to fund the NDIS and Gonski?

  62. Docket62

    Infidel, “You can’t fix the system. You can treat it like a little bitch though” makes you part of the problem, not the solution. I have no plans of using the system. Ever…

  63. Infidel Tiger

    IT – Honour is what distinguishes us from the leftards.

    I know. We’re retarded aren’t we? So much free cash going begging.

  64. .

    You can actually apply for a subsidy for it if the tax deduction angle doesn’t apply.

    Pfft….outrageous.

    Docket – as for fuel tax, at $1.28 per litre for petrol, you are paying just over 50c per litre in taxes.

    That’s a 39% tax on fuel, AFTER income taxes have been paid, before your council rates…or mortgage.

    This shit matters!

  65. Gab

    Screen Australia down 5.2 million Arts Council down 9.6 million Other arts funding sitting under AG office down 4.4 million

    Clearly there’s no budget emergency otherwise those useless agencies would be closed down.

  66. Docket62

    LOL Once a leather legged lout always a leather legged lout.

    I think it’s a gene that gets switched on… Once it’s there you just can’t get rid of it. One must be veeeeewwwy veeeeewwwy careful though.

  67. .

    The more the fuel costs the less cars get in my way.

    I have no plans of using the system. Ever…

    OH…SNAP

  68. Infidel Tiger

    Docket62 – don’t worry. Tax avoidance is more my racket.

  69. The Hunted Mind

    And you wonder why the system is broken…….

    It ain’t broken yet. Sooner it does the better though.

  70. twostix

    Could News.com.au be any more hysterical about the matter?

  71. Notafan

    I agree Gab but I’m going to get what little pleasure out of this budget I can, and lefty heads will be exploding.

  72. Docket62

    .
    “That’s a 39% tax on fuel, AFTER income taxes have been paid, before your council rates…or mortgage.”

    Where the hell do you get fuel for $1.28? Mine averages $1.60 odd.

    Given I claim all of the above, I don’t care. And if you haven’t worked out how to claim mortgages, rates etc. well it’s no different than the Hunted Mind ‘ solution, at a corporate level.

    The answer my friend is always in front of you, but you have to clear the rubbish to see the forest.

  73. .

    You don’t care about costs going up because of taxes to pay for stuff no one wants anyway?

    I’d care about cost control before tax avoidance (but not planning).

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Why did these retards even mention the pension age going to 70? Needless antagonism.

    That’s something for a government to worry about in 2030. Who’s advising these arseclowns

  75. The Hunted Mind

    Why did these retards even mention the pension age going to 70? Needless antagonism.

    That’s something for a government to worry about in 2030. Who’s advising these arseclowns

    They’re trying to do The Right Thing.

    It’s kinda cute.

  76. Arnost

    In a statement, ABC managing director Mark Scott says the funding cuts break repeated pre-election commitments from the Coalition.

    “The Government gave repeated commitments before and after the election that funding for the Corporation would be maintained,” Mr Scott said.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-13/budget-2014-abc-sbs-funding-cut-ausnet-contract-cancelled/5450932

    Turnbull should have told Scott: “One whinge or bad word out of you and I’ll apply the Fisk doctrine”. I reckon they wouldn’t have been able to help themselves … Causus belli

  77. Gab

    The wages freeze on politicians wages and senior public servants for only one year. Yet another gesture. Pathetic.

  78. Arnost

    yet another gesture”

    Yes – the Budget seems full of (half) gestures.

  79. Infidel Tiger

    Phew! Terry McCrann thinks it’s a good budget!

  80. twostix

    The wages freeze on politicians wages and senior public servants for only one year. Yet another gesture. Pathetic.

    So in one year they’ll all take pay rises. Which is pretty much business as usual.

  81. JC

    Mark Di Stefano ‏@MarkDiStef 34m

    Federal Government to spend $90m on search for #MH370… it would fund the axed Australia Network for three years #Budget2014

    @MarkDiStef @debsteele123 Lol. And the 1 bill thrown at their ABC would fund a lot of pensions. By the way, nice seeing your mother on ABC

  82. MemoryVault

    MV if I adopt your advice (and it’s very tempting) how often do I or the grandparents have to stand in line with the scum and filth that loiter around Centrelink offices?

    Unless you do something incredibly stupid, never.

    The system works on a positive feedback loop.
    Either nothing is being paid on behalf of your kids at the moment, or you or your spouse are getting some or all of FTB Part A and/or B.
    Your parents claim benefit on their pensions because the kids are now with them, and the department simply starts paying it, and cancels any payment to you or your spouse (if it exists). If you are your partner don’t complain about the cancellation, then that’s an end to it. If no benefit is currently being paid, the department may write to you asking for confirmation of the new arrangements. Provided you confirm, that’s an end to it.

    Centrelink offices do not exist to administer welfare payments in any kind of sensible, orderly, or responsible way. Centrelink offices exist to make welfare beneficiaries feel bad about themselves. Since Centrelink staff do not consider (at the moment) aged pensioners and children in their care, to be “welfare beneficiaries”, you are all safe from their evil, hateful machinations. This may change.

    The only way you can come unstuck is to offer something stupid. For instance, in the unlikely event that you are ever even asked why your children are living with your parents, the correct answer is that you and your spouse are currently both upwardly mobile, and are striving to create professional careers that will ultimately be beneficial to both you and your children. You both long for the day when you can all be together again. Meantime, your children are basking in the glow of extended family love.

    You do not say “because collectively we are $30,000.00 a year better off”. You especially don’t say “because we can’t stand the little creeps, but for some reason their grandparents put up with them”. That will see the lot of you referred to Child Welfare.

  83. JC

    DEBORAH STEELE ‏@debsteele123 1h

    ABC, SBS funding cut, Australia Network contract cancelled http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-13/budget-2014-abc-sbs-funding-cut-ausnet-contract-cancelled/5450932 … @ausnetwork

    @debsteele123 Lol. Great news 250 mill saved for the taxpayer and removed from leftwing taxeaters #auspol

  84. JC

    DEBORAH STEELE ‏@debsteele123 1h

    Thank you to all those who have offered words of support for @ausnetwork & the wonderful team at the ABC’s Asia Pacific News Centre #budget

    @debsteele123 @ausnetwork Hey Deb obviously not me, I love the idea the long suffering taxpayer is saving a modest 250 mill. Get a real job

  85. JC

    DEBORAH STEELE ‏@debsteele123 3h

    The Australian government to pay the ABC $10.6m in 2014-15 to wind down Australia Network @ausnetwork

    @debsteele123 @ausnetwork Why? Close it down tomorrow morn and fire everyone immediately. Money shouldn’t be wasted like this.

  86. JC

    Just look at this douchebag on Twitter.

    Malcolm Fraser ‏@MalcolmFraser12 May 9

    Cabinet has approved axing of ABC’s Australia Network: report.An island that forgets the world. http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/-zr6yz.html

    @MalcolmFraser12 @debsteele123 Hey Mal, recall how the punters thru u out of office for being an asshat.Still proving we did the right thing

  87. JC

    @MalcolmFraser12 @debsteele123 How’s Mugabe doing, by the way? Great call that one, dude. Great, great call. Another job well done

  88. Infidel Tiger

    Cabinet has approved axing of ABC’s Australia Network: report.An island that forgets the world. http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/-zr6yz.html

    A man who forgot his pants.

  89. JC

    LOl
    Send him that, IT. Get stuck into him.

  90. Infidel Tiger

    Would like to, but I’m not on Twitter.

    Feel free to ping him.

  91. Foggyfig

    I don’t know if it has been mentioned but Gonski funding is gone.

    IF YOU ARE THINKING OF STUDYING …

    Brace yourself for higher fees. The government plans to decrease its contribution towards course fees (which is currently 59 per cent) by an average of 20 per cent, so students will have to pay more. This will come into effect from January 2016.

    Universities, TAFEs and colleges will also be able to set their own fees from this date, driving up the cost of some courses even more. PhD students will also have to pay an extra contribution towards their degree.

  92. JC

    I did, fuck him and I tweeted it into auspol too just for good measure.

    Malcolm Fraser ‏@MalcolmFraser12 May 9

    Cabinet has approved axing of ABC’s Australia Network: report.An island that forgets the world. http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/-zr6yz.html

    @MalcolmFraser12 Ironic comment from the man who forgot his pants. #auspol

  93. JC

    This why I love the Cat. No one is safe. You’re writing your own death warrant if you go against the Cat’s principles..

  94. Foggyfig

    Docket62 – I pay any between $1.55 to $1.68 per litre for fuel.

  95. JC

    Good point Sinc. They want to dissuade people from seeing docs at the margin and use the gains to fund medical research, which is in the never.

  96. Fisky

    ROFL @ Mal Fraser. What a jerk.

  97. Fisky

    Thanks for the heads up MemoryVault. Fantastic ideas that I fully intend to put into practice. Each Cat has a moral obligation to pitch in and increase the deficit so Hockey will learn his lesson.

  98. Fisky

    Your parents claim benefit on their pensions because the kids are now with them, and the department simply starts paying it, and cancels any payment to you or your spouse (if it exists).

    MV, how will Centrelink even know the kids are living with the grandparents?

  99. Arnost

    I guess this isn’t a bad start

    The planned restructure, as reported by David Crowe in The Australian, is expected to save the government $470 million over four years.

    A number of Indigenous bodies are among those to be abolished, including the Prime Minister’s Indigenous Business Policy Advisory Group and Co-ordinator General for Remote Indigenous Services.

    Immigration and refugee bodies are also facing changes, with the merging of the Migration Review Tribunal, Refugee Review Tribunal and Social Security Appeals Tribunal.

    A complete list of affected agencies, first published by The Australian, is listed below.

    To be sold
    Defence Housing Australia
    Royal Australian Mint
    Australian Hearing
    Australian Securities and Investments Commission file registry
    Medibank Private
    To be abolished
    Abalone Aquaculture Health Accreditation Workshop
    Albury-Wodonga Development Corporation
    Australian Renewable Energy Agency
    Australian River Company Limited
    Corporations and Markets Advisory Committee
    National Water Commission
    COAG Reform Council
    Independent National Security Legislation Monitor
    Prime Minister’s Indigenous Business Policy Advisory Group
    To be folded into Departments
    Australian Customs and Border Protection Service
    Health Workforce Australia
    General Practice Education and Training Limited
    Australian National Preventative Health Agency
    Grape and Wine Research
    Wine Australia Corporation Selection Committee
    Telecommunications Universal Service Management Agency
    To be merged with other agencies
    ComSuper with Commonwealth Super Corporation
    Administrative Appeals Tribunal, Classification Review Board
    Migration Review Tribunal, Refugee Review Tribunal, Social Security Appeals Tribunal
    Office of Australian Information Commissioner to be divided among Australian Human Rights Commission, Administrative Appeals Tribunal, Commonwealth Ombudsman, Attorney-General’s Department
    Back-office functions to be combined at National Archives, National Film and Sound Archive, National Gallery, National Library, National Museum, National Portrait Gallery, Old Parliament House
    Functions of Private Health Insurance Administration Council to be folded into Australian Competition and Consumer Commission and Australian Regulation Authority
    Merger of National Biosecurity Committee with Australian Weeds Committee, Biosafety and Biosecurity Working Group, Pests and Disease Working Group
    National Competition Council folded into Australian Competition and Consumer Commission
    National Blood Authority with Australian Organ and Tissue Donation and Transplantation Authority
    New Health Productivity and Performance Authority will combine Australian Commission on Safety and Quality in Health Care, Independent Hospitals Pricing Authority, National Health Funding Body, National Health Performance Authority, Australian Institute of Health and Welfare
    Already being abolished
    Social Inclusion Board
    Australian Animals Welfare Advisory Committee
    Commonwealth Firearms Advisory Council
    International legal Service Advisory Council;
    National Corporate Wrongdoing
    Antarctic Animal Ethics Committee
    Advisory Panel on Marketing Infant Formula
    High Speed Rail Advisory Group
    Maritime Workforce Development Forum
    Advisory Panel on Positive Aging
    Insurance Reform Advisory Group
    National Policy Commission on Indigenous Housing
    National Children and Family Roundtable
    Prime Minister’s Council on Homelessness
    Pulp and Paper Advisory Group
    National Alternative Dispute Resolution Advisory Council
    Centre for Workplace Leadership Advisory Group
    National Council for Education for Sustainability
    National Sustainability Council
    Procurement Consultative Committee
    Climate Commission
    Energy Security Council
    Independent Inspector-General of Animal Welfare and Live Animal Exports
    Pharmaceutical Benefits Pricing Authority
    Co-ordinator General for Remote Indigenous Services
    National Gambling Regulator
    Climate Change Authority
    Clean Energy Finance Corporation
    Australian Charities and Not for Profit Commission

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/05/12/glance-agencies-be-abolished-budget

  100. MemoryVault

    MV, how will Centrelink even know the kids are living with the grandparents?

    Because the grandparents filled out a form (available online) that the kids are now with them, and claiming the extra pension payable as a result.

  101. Perpetual Motion

    Everyone in my family will have an “income” of $179,000 next year.

    And we won’t vote Liberal in 2016 because it no longer matters which way we vote.

  102. MemoryVault

    And we won’t vote Liberal in 2016 because it no longer matters which way we vote.

    Vote 4 Themm.

  103. Fisky

    There are lots of decent Australians who are concerned about the direction of the country. I think it’s too late. Everybody should be demanding Free Stuff ™ from everyone else until taxation is 100% and spending is 120%. It’s going to happen anyway, so jump in and get your share of the loot!

  104. Perpetual Motion

    Who is Themm MV?

    I intend to write “Fuck you Abbott” on the House of Reps card, and vote LDP in the Senate.

    I don’t really care if Labor gets back into power because all my life I have always done better under a Labor government. I think they’re despicable but they shovel money into my bank account like demented idiots. They fuck the poor and make the rich richer. I despise them on an ideological basis, but they sure do their best to make me tolerate them.

  105. egg_

    “Sharing the pain.”

    So that the Liberal B-Ark stays in power?
    In their dreams.

  106. MemoryVault

    Who is Themm MV?

    Themm Nunnov, Perpetual Motion.
    Hopefully he/she will be will running in every HoR electorate in the next federal election.
    To vote for Themm all you have to do is draw a little box on your ballot paper, put a “1″ in it, and write Themm’s name next to it, the way the Electoral Commission do – surname first:

    NUNNOV Themm

    Voting for Themm not only deprives the political parties of the electoral funding they gouge out of us to finance their campaign lies, it sends a clear message to Canberra that we’ve had a gutful of the lot of them.

  107. Perpetual Motion

    So a “Fuck you Abbott” would be the same as a NUNNOV Themm?

    Personally, I will get a lot more satisfaction by just scrawling “Fuck you Abbott” on my voting slip.

  108. MemoryVault

    Personally, I will get a lot more satisfaction by just scrawling “Fuck you Abbott” on my voting slip.

    Then you are missing out on saying “Fuck you Shorten”, “Fuck you ALP”, “Fuck you Greens”.
    Trust me, just as many people are planning to write that as what you are planning.
    Trouble is, dispersed that way, they just become “informal” votes.
    On the other hand, if everybody records their displeasure the same way, in a countable form, we send a clear message to Canberra that a lot of us have had a gutful of party politics, as practiced today.

  109. Perpetual Motion

    An informal vote sends a message no matter what the actual text.

    I am also informing my local LNP member that I am not voting for her because her leader is a lying piece of shit.

  110. coz

    aww, you deadshits actually did believe, I thought it was just a clubby thing, but you actually believed a politician would act in the best interests of the country/taxpayers rather than the best interests of climbing the greasy NWO pole.

  111. Senile Old Guy

    Brace yourself for higher fees. The government plans to decrease its contribution towards course fees (which is currently 59 per cent) by an average of 20 per cent, so students will have to pay more. This will come into effect from January 2016.

    As I read it, the tough stuff is either temporary (1 year Gesture Politics freeze on politician’s pay) or set to start in 2016. There have been some trivial cuts (the $470 million over 4 years from restructuring is margin of error stuff; 1% off the ABC/SBS) but spending, at least in the short term, goes up.

    We have a “budget emergency” which requires a Wealth Tax and twice yearly increase in fuel excise…but spending goes up. We have a “budget emergency”…but are going to plough billions into medical research…because?

    All this is hypothetical because the Greens control the senate until July — and they have already approved the fuel excise increase (fossil fuel is bad; getting more of our money is good) — and after that it is Clive Palmer and his Gang of Unpredictables.

    Tony Abbott will not be PM at the next election (that’s my Big Bold Prediction) and this budget will be seen as a squandered opportunity. I see positive things being written about it but I think that will change. It soaks up more taxpayer money and spends it. Billions on roads. Why? Billions on medical research. Why?

    And a Swanonomics surplus sometime in the future.

    And broken “promises” all over the place.

  112. .

    coz
    #1304674, posted on May 14, 2014 at 1:14 am
    aww, you deadshits actually did believe, I thought it was just a clubby thing, but you actually believed a politician would act in the best interests of the country/taxpayers rather than the best interests of climbing the greasy NWO pole.

    Well, we never believed him, We also don’t believe in repitlians like you, you deranged imbecile.

  113. Bear Necessities

    The “thought bubble” of the Medical Benefit Fund shows how cowardly this government is. It is scared witless of what the left (people who will never vote for them) thinks of them and tries to show compassion by putting the money into this Fund. It will be straight wealth transfer from the citizenry to the medical carpet baggers.
    What is the old saying “Government can’t pick winners, but losers can sure choose governments”.

  114. Bear Necessities

    Personally, I will get a lot more satisfaction by just scrawling “Fuck you Abbott” on my voting slip.

    Then you are missing out on saying “Fuck you Shorten”, “Fuck you ALP”, “Fuck you Greens”.
    Trust me, just as many people are planning to write that as what you are planning.
    Trouble is, dispersed that way, they just become “informal” votes.
    On the other hand, if everybody records their displeasure the same way, in a countable form, we send a clear message to Canberra that a lot of us have had a gutful of party politics, as practiced today.

    Nah………. Don’t let these bastards and bitches off the hook. If you run a business and you don’t supply a product or service people need then you go out of business. If a political party does the same then they should suffer the same fate.

  115. Tel

    I keep trying to explain to you guys, preferences. When the major parties see their first preference vote falling and getting very marginal victory in electorate after electorate, they will notice.

    Anyone putting a major party as first preference, doesn’t understand what they are doing.

  116. Trust me, just as many people are planning to write that as what you are planning.
    Trouble is, dispersed that way, they just become “informal” votes.

    No, a voter may write whatever he or she lists on the front or back of a ballot paper and, as long as the writing does not obscure the numbered boxes or enable the voter to be identified thereby, any writing will not invalidate an otherwise formal vote. Scrutineers will take note of messages on ballot papers, and a large volume of comments will be noticed.

  117. Senile Old Guy

    The Abbott government will create the world’s largest medical research fund which Treasurer Joe Hockey says could help save Australian lives. The Medical Research Future Fund will be the biggest of its kind in the world, worth $20 billion by 2020. The government will start the research fund, a surprise announcement of the federal budget, with $1.1 billion from an existing health and hospital fund.

    Mr Hockey said the fund would start providing money to medical research from next year, and by 2022-23 would distribute about $1 billion a year. It may be an Australian who discovers better treatments and even cures for dementia, Alzheimer’s, heart disease or cancer, the treasurer told parliament on Tuesday. “This new and historic commitment in medical research may well save your life, or that of your parents, or your child.”

    The more I see, the worse it gets.
    * The “world’s largest medical research fund” because?
    * Well, another surprise from the “no surprises” government.
    * By 2022-23, so another la-la-land measure so far in the future that it is meaningless.
    * It “may” be an Australian, so? It “may” save a life…or it may not.
    * All relying on things that are probably not going to pass the senate.

  118. Senile Old Guy

    And so…

    The Federal Government faces an uphill battle to get key budget savings through Parliament after Labor and Clive Palmer both said they would oppose the introduction of a GP co-payment.

    This morning Mr Palmer said his Palmer United Party (PUP) would “definitely” oppose the Government’s proposed introduction of a $7 fee to see a doctor.

  119. john constantine

    malcom fraser scolds australia for being an island that forgets the world.

    this from the man that expects the world to forget that fraser imposed mugabe on africa,and expects the world to ignore frasers culpability in genocide.

    just deny you did it fraser, like a true lefty.

  120. * The “world’s largest medical research fund” because?
    * Well, another surprise from the “no surprises” government.

    Yeah.
    “SURPRISE! We just created a massive pot of money for medical research!!!!!!!! Your grandmother will pay for it out of her monthly checkup!!!!!! ”
    No surprises, eh?

  121. MemoryVault

    No, a voter may write whatever he or she lists on the front or back of a ballot paper and, as long as the writing does not obscure the numbered boxes or enable the voter to be identified thereby, any writing will not invalidate an otherwise formal vote.

    Who said anything about numbering any other boxes?

    1) – Draw a square.
    2) – Put a ’1′ in it.
    3) – Write NUNNOV Them next to it.

  122. egg_

    Tel
    #1304860, posted on May 14, 2014 at 8:12 am

    IIRC per Tom the primary vote for the major parties is into the thirties; and methinks yoof are disengaging and would see Hockey’s disingenuous confected bluster for the major party hyperbole that it is.

  123. Bruce

    ” The Worlds Largest Medical Research Fund” WOW! Liberal Party Socialism at it’s absolute best! Take from the sick and shovel the cash into the hands of “connected” research labs,all profits from drugs developed by those labs,apart from kickbacks to the Liberal Party, will be retained by the labs and the sick who might have survived will be able to purchase their treatments at an extortionate price. This sounds like a clever variation on the coal seam gas mining licence scam ,except with mining the licence holders at least had to use their own money to get the gas.

  124. hardworking mum

    I’d like to put some focus on the need for policy changes to amend the child support formula if ftb is to get changed significantly. So many (non custodial) parents get away with what is a VERY CHEAP contribution to the cost of raising their children.

    I currently work fulltime and have done for years raising 2 kids. Im trying to pay my way.
    Back around 2009 they drastically changed the formula and my child support nearly halved (buffered somewhat by ftb a &b). If we’re saying people are to pay their way then lets see some parents f@*&$ lift their game. Child support payments are a joke for many people.

    Would be great to talk some more about the flow on effects of slashing ftb payments!!!

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