Ambushed

David Leyonhjelm has been ambushed by the MSM and the “offense” lobby.

An applicant for a media adviser’s job in Mr Leyonhjelm’s office has revealed he was asked a string of surprisingly personal questions during an interview on May 7, including whether he was married, gay and how he voted.

Poor form all round. First here’s David being silly:

The reason I asked if he was gay was that I thought it might be good to have a gay media adviser as we have so many gay supporters.

Then there is gen Y type not really being serious about getting the job:

“(Mr Leyonhjelm) asked me if I was married and I said ‘no’. Then he asked me if I was gay. I told him I wasn’t gay, then said `I wouldn’t have expected that gayness would worry you given you’re a libertarian’.

In this instance it all worked out:

“He asked me to give some thought to whether I could work for him given everything we covered in the interview.

“I reflected on it and got in touch the next day to say I didn’t think it’d work out.”

David – what are you thinking? Don’t employ anyone who isn’t a true believer.* In particular don’t employ ‘randoms’ who answer job ads; especially those who have expectations about libertarians. Anyone who isn’t a party member, or already well known to party members, is likely to cause trouble.

* Alternatively employ a professional cynic – someone who couldn’t care about ideology or politics and if they weren’t selling you to the media they’d be selling snow to Eskimos.

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44 Responses to Ambushed

  1. kae

    People wonder why politicians employ family.

  2. Tim

    The response to the journalist was pretty classic David – “Bullshit” and “Fuck That”…
    I look forward to the next six years of David in the Senate with great enthusiasm.

  3. Gab

    Alternatively employ a professional cynic – someone who couldn’t care about ideology or politics and if they weren’t selling you to the media they’s be selling snow to Eskimos.

    Spot on! Someone who is not over-emotionally involved,has good knowledge of the product, likes the product (i.e. David Leyonhjelm and the LDP) and is excellent at persuading and selling.

  4. Alfonso

    “…. including whether he was married, gay and how he voted…. Poor form all round.”
    Errr, why?
    Political aides are as politicians, values are everything.
    That an arse out of his / her trousers mardi gras prancing Green voter might be compulsorily employed by the LDP lest the party “discriminate” is apparently a post modernist value acquired by Sinc.

  5. JLC

    I’m not an HR person or lawyer but my understanding is that it is illegal for an employer to consider personal characteristics such as marital status, sexuality and race when evaluating a job applicant. The only thing that can be considered is the person’s ability to do the job. It might be relevant to consider a person’s knowledge of gay culture if it were directly relevant to the job, but it is not permitted to consider whether the applicant is gay.

  6. Blogstrop

    This is his welcome to the world of politics as practised in the big sandpit.

  7. Crossie

    An amateur’s mistake. That sort of a job is for those whom you trust, who got you to where you are.

  8. Gab

    The reason I asked if he was gay was that I thought it might be good to have a gay media adviser as we have so many gay supporters.

    Hire by talent and experience, David, not by sexuality or gender etc.

  9. JC

    Why is David asking the person if he was gay without the explanation he gave later? I don’t quite understand the confusion.

    And for lord’s sake hire from within, not outsiders.

  10. Tom

    This leftfilth dregscum parasite went for the job to see if he could get an interview, had no intention of taking it and ran like a schoolgirl to the leftfilth dregscum media to drop his excellent gotcha.

    My advice to David is to name the little prick and make him unemployable for all but the Greenfilth and the Wilderness Society, which obviously he is anyway.

  11. ar

    Job interviewers want to see how applicants react under pressure. They could ask the Seven Dwarves question… or try “are you gay?”…

  12. Gab

    Good Lord! David even asked if the applicant had ever voted Greens! No, you cannot discriminate against applicants based on disability, David.

  13. Tom

    Correction: I accused the Sunday Telegraph of being the “leftfilth dregscum media”. They just employ leftfilth dregscum Abbott-haters like Samantha Maiden, who was happy to write the gotcha.

  14. Infidel Tiger

    It all worked out in the end. He hired the chick with the biggest tits.

  15. H B Bear

    Should have just put on some Pet Shop Boys and seen whether they started lip syncing away when you left the room.

  16. Nato

    I was going to try to snark on whether this was the LibDem’s candidate or the Motoring Enthusiasts’.

    Then I saw commenter Tim’s opening, touching on my key concern, and I shudder to think of the next six years. Mr Leyonhjelm is made to sound like some libertarian Latham but it’s a not a hatchet job, it’s a good thing?

  17. tomix

    An employer asking a prospective employee if he is married, then if he is gay could be mistakenly construed as a come- on by the interviewee. Did he clear that up with David Leyonhjelm?

  18. Yohan

    He told me he’d several gay people who had applied for the job — and he couldn’t understand why there’d been so many. I was stunned because I’d heard that they (Liberal Democrats) were in support of gay marriage.

    This is something that non-libertarians find very confusing. Just because we are for the ‘right for gays to get married’ does not mean we like the idea of gays getting married. We just think the right to voluntary association always takes precedence over using the coercive power of the state to enforce our own cultural preferences.

    Some of the Bolt blow in’s should take some time to think about this concept, ie freedom

  19. Anne

    http://www.ldp.org.au

    If we get a hundred more members we can register party status in Victoria in time for the November election.

    Abe Salt is a very impressive young man and first on the Upper House ticket.

  20. Should have just put on some Pet Shop Boys and seen whether they started lip syncing away when you left the room.

    That rules me out, then.

    [continues cooking dinner while lip synching to 'What Have I Done To Deserve This']

  21. Abe Salt is a very impressive young man and first on the Upper House ticket.

    Is he the candidate?

    First heard of him today via Facebook… frankly, he seemed like a bit of a dick.

  22. Anne

    I don’t do FacePage Fleeced. I met him at an LDP meeting.

    I found him very reasonable, sensible and articulate.

    I guess we’ll be seeing more of him. Hope so.

  23. Tim

    On the night of the election, as it became clear he had won, I’ll admit to having slight concerns, but the idea of a straight shooting (pun intended) MP has grown on me. A poli who says what he thinks – what a concept. Of course, if he thinks you are a dickhead, he won’t be shy in saying so. David is David. I suspect he isn’t going to be making any new best friends in the Senate. But if you want a passionate and committed advocate for liberty, he is your man.

  24. OzGrandPooba

    #1 reason why I wont ever vote for this guy. Whats so damn important abt gay marriage David that its at the very top of things on your agenda?
    If you were really true to your philosophy- why just gays and not freedom of marriage for ALL- siblings, plurals etc. etc- rather than just the celebre homosexual? Can’t do that can you? Cause you’re unable to really explain your position on this matter.

  25. .

    Cause you’re unable to really explain your position on this matter.

    Nonsense. We have explained it to death – either equality before the law or abolishing the power entirely.

    People on this blog are sick of hearing it.

    Poor form, buddy.

  26. Anne

    Uhp! I thought this thread was dead after the Poob’s comment.

  27. Chris M

    One position where a stoner would make a good applicant.

  28. I am the Walrus, koo koo k'choo

    [continues cooking dinner while lip synching to 'What Have I Done To Deserve This']

    ‘Left to my own devices’ (a v. libertarian title) and ‘Heart’ are my favourites.

    Why no questions about marijuana legalisation? David should have rolled a spliff during the interview and offered it to the bloke. ‘Get that into ya, young fella!’

    [As usual, IT wins the thread.]

  29. 2dogs

    If you want to know the political leanings of an interviewee, ask them how they would react if their boss asked them to arrange a prostitute for him.

    A social conservative would refuse and be morally disgusted.

    A lefty would call it harassment and report the boss.

    A libertarian would enquire if the boss has any particular preferences.

  30. Dave Wane

    I remember during my days as a candidate in the NT Elections of 1987 the number of people who asked for political favours or yet another unnecessary public service job, and even those who wanted a job in my electorate office, or on my staff if I was to become a minister. I can honestly say that not one had a clue about where I was heading philosophically, and did not seem to care. They just wanted a political ‘job” but never had a serious political agenda to achieve any kind of “goal” – whether on the freedom side, the Liberal-Semi-Socialist or the very socialist Labor -side. They were mostly best described as political zombies. Kevin Rudd comes to mind……and we now know there are plenty just like him from the electoral helper to the high ranking public servant . In a word, they are nothing more than a “MENACE”.

  31. .

    These sorts of questions really are benign. They relate to the work at hand and for example, would the LDP or any of its elected representatives be expected to take on an anti gun nutter as an employee?

    What about someone who votes Green and advocates 70% income tax?

    The only problem is a lot of the true believers aren’t interested in the job.

  32. Snoopy

    The only problem is a lot of the true believers aren’t interested in the job.

    So DL emailed all LDP members about the vacancy?

  33. The only problem is a lot of the true believers aren’t interested in the job.

    Was this a Sydney or Canberra position?

  34. johanna

    2dogs
    #1310436, posted on May 18, 2014 at 10:35 pm

    If you want to know the political leanings of an interviewee, ask them how they would react if their boss asked them to arrange a prostitute for him.

    A social conservative would refuse and be morally disgusted.

    A lefty would call it harassment and report the boss.

    A libertarian would enquire if the boss has any particular preferences.

    2dogs, I used to admire your contributions on various blogs, but you have lost it lately.

    So, if your employer asked you to organise anything at all, the libertarian response would be “how high?” Or to resign or not be employed in the first place.

    Here’s a tip. If you went to an election on the policy that sleazebags should be able to compel their 19 year old personal assistants to procure prostitutes for them, or be sacked (or employed in the first place), there would not be a single MP left on your side.

    Get a grip.

  35. .

    I am quite sure MPs already can tell their minions to do that. The service is legal and the staff exist to do what the MPs are too “busy” to do themselves.

    Heaven forbid if they ask a candidate their views on political issues like economic policy or the regulation of social affairs.

    That apparently is scandalous and newsworthy.

  36. .

    Sydney and they sent out a notice in the LDP newsletter.

  37. Notafan

    Someone I know got asked by her parliamentary boss what team she barracked for, being genuinely young and naive she said Richmond.

  38. Notafan

    That was at interview.

  39. mark

    Can see why he needs a media adviser and should have had one long before now.

    Has a column in the AFR that he looks like a genius in, but no one reads

    Makes unwitting and bizarre media appearances where he looks like a halfwit and everyone sees them. That speed limit thing still has me shaking my head – who gives a fuck?

    Having someone to point out dangers and your blindspots comes in handy.

  40. dover_beach

    Sinc is correct. I’m surprised these positions were not already filled beforehand. BTW, pooba made a fair point.

  41. Milton Von Smith

    What an idiot.

    If you were paying someone out of your own pocket then yes you should be able to ask them anything you want. But the taxpayer is funding this and he has no right to ask these kinds of questions – and even if he disagrees with that, he should have known the rules.

    Look, if you want to appeal superificially to gays, go and prance around in the Mardi Gras. Even then I doubt it would swing a single vote. If you want professional media advice (which it looks like he badly needs), then hire the best person irrespective of their sexuality.

    And yes, it looks like he needs better policy advice as well.

    At the moment, this guy is a walking disaster. He needs to very quickly smarten the f*ck up.

  42. .

    There’s nothing superficial at all about getting the government out of marriage. Reaching out to gays isn’t cynical, its coincidental. Take “Fruits in Suits” for example. I hope a lot of them would eventually come to the LDP or UKIP style party.

    You’d be surprised how many gay people vote left. I’m sure that not all of them are actually inclined to leftism. Read the Sydney gay papers for example. There is some support for fiscal prudence but they get shouted down by stuff cranked out of Sussex St.

    Taking away inner city safe seats from the ALP would really shake things up.

  43. JtotheGtotheSofA

    I’ll say it again. I’m against marriage. It’s an evil cabal of Wedding Planners, Florists, Real Estate Agents and Suburban Solicitors who benefit: what with their flawed pre-nups, gleeful re-listings, artful floral arrangements, hideous confections topped by sugary homunculi and whatever they do for the wimmens. Relationships can be be facilitated by a good contract, a great party, and an enduring sense of one’s declining fabulosity. Marriage is antediluvian, don’t expand it, contract it.

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