A new low

THE Whitehouse Institute of Design was hit by vandals overnight — and the prestigious college’s woes have continued this afternoon.

The heat continues to be directed towards the college this afternoon, with left-wing activist group the Socialist Alternative protesting outside the institute’s Melbourne campus, where Frances now works.

Protesters gathered outside the college in Bourke St about 3pm and attempted to force their way inside. Police are on the scene.

Source.

Police - Abbott daughter

Protester Elliot Downes, 18, said the demonstration was in objection to the awarding of the scholarship.

“I think this represents everything that wrong with the system where the Prime Minister’s daughter went to an elite institution for virtually nothing while working class kids are going to pay through the roof because of her father’s actions,” she said.

“Protests like the one today are the only way we have a hope of beating back the Abbott Government’s attacks on education, and everything else included in their horror budget,” Ms Downes said.

The police have to provide ongoing protection so the PMs daughter can go to work?

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196 Responses to A new low

  1. Rabz

    This is not an Australia I recognise.

    These people, the so called Socialist Alternative, are fascists.

  2. Gab

    I wonder when Abbott will apologise and ask for the scholarship to be revoked?

  3. Infidel Tiger

    I see Hi-Viz, but i see no water cannons or arrests.

  4. .

    These people are against a scholarship – not free study.

    They are against talented people being rewarded. Note all of the crap student teachers do in sociology which tries to brow beat them out of using gifted and talented programmes.

  5. Notafan

    Socialist Alliance failing to note a private institution can award scholarships to whom ever they like and are not answerable to other students, the public and especially not socialist alliance who wouldn’t even allow such an institution to exist in their version of the world.
    And the scholarship was awarded when Abbott was in opposition but so what?

    Let them go ape, they will hopefully just move more people to the right by their fascist antics.

  6. Ant

    For some reason the scum and dregs of society always seem to float to the top whenever a glimpse of sanity returns to government.

    These people think they have all the answers and that they know exactly what they want, when in fact they are supremely ignorant, arrogant and stupid.

    In short they’re oafs and their behaviour is not a “protest” but an assault on societal norms.

    They should be in jail.

  7. Tom

    I hope the left’s cheerleaders in the Canberra gallery, Oakes and Riley, are telling their news editors what a great story this is and get it promoted to the top of tonight’s bulletins. The more the tax-paying masses see of this mooching parasitic scum the better.

  8. Tom

    Of course, Peta will tell the LNP and Abbott they can do absolutely nothing about it.

  9. C.L.

    Oh my God.

    I’ve been out and just clicked on the Cat to see this.

    This isn’t the Australia I was raised in.

    And not one of the left-wing whores in Emily’s List has raised a peep about this mob violence -nor about the assault of Bishop and Mirabella. Not a peep.

  10. stackja

    A hero of Socialist Alternative: Yakov Sverdlov

    http://redflag.org.au/article/yakov-sverdlov-imperious-chairman
    Few people have heard of Yakov Sverdlov, the brilliant Bolshevik organiser. But he is important. Without Sverdlov, the Russian Revolution might not have succeeded. And without people like him, no revolution will succeed.

    Yakov Sverdlov
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Sverdlov
    Another speculation is that he was eliminated due to his involvement in an attempt to assassinate Lenin.
    His son Andrei had a long career as an officer for the Soviet security organs (NKVD, OGPU). His niece Ida married NKVD chief Genrikh Yagoda.

  11. Tom

    ShakeMyHead.com is running the story prominently, but The Age website has buried it in solidarity with their Socialist Alternative comrades to minimise the backlash.

  12. JohnA

    Gab #1323280, posted on May 28, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    I wonder when Abbott will apologise and ask for the scholarship to be revoked?

    Are you advocating that he and his daughter submit to thuggery and bullying behaviour by these demonstrators?

    I wonder if the Scholarship Trust Deed specifies the terms and conditions applicable, the criteria for selection and award, and any means by which a scholarship may be revoked?

    And do the Trustees see any of those terms which would trigger a revocation in this instance?

    I would say the PM has nothing to apologise for, especially as the scholarship was awarded prior to the election.

  13. vlad

    Like Alabama in the sixties.

  14. Fisky

    Brandis MUST extend 18C to cover Leftist incitement and hate speech. We’ve lost the battle for free speech, the public aren’t buying it. So it’s time to ban Leftist speech too.

  15. Gab

    Are you advocating that he and his daughter submit to thuggery and bullying behaviour by these demonstrators?

    No. I’m just going on Abbott’s past behaviour. He even apologised for THAT wink. He apologises whenever criticized.

  16. Fisky, all that needs to change is that in an case of 18C offence, the person taking offence has to be the one punished.

  17. Fisky

    We must use incidents like these to build a steady case in the media for banning Leftist speech. It must be a criminal offense to incite class envy and to stand in picket lines outside private establishments.

  18. entropy

    Johna, Gab was either being sarcastic or inferring that Abbott, the gormless loser with no spine, will try to buy the SA’s love by grovelling to them, instead of what he should do, which is to send them digging ditches at Marble Bar for a couple of years. There is a gulag at port headland getting empty isnt there?

  19. Big_Nambas

    I don’t know what all the fuss is about. No discipline in the home no discipline in the schools no discipline anywhere in young society! Of course you get anarchy, of course you get riots, of course you get Socialist Alliance. What exactly did you expect the result of the permissive society to be?

  20. Gab

    Johna, Gab was either being sarcastic or inferring that Abbott, the gormless loser with no spine, will try to buy the SA’s love by grovelling to them, instead of what he should do, which is to send them digging ditches at Marble Bar for a couple of years.

    Just so we’re all clear.

  21. Alfonso

    Correct…. Abbott will look puzzled, talk passively and exhibit some implied regret that his daughter, you know, actually got a scholarship.

  22. Fisky

    Of course, Peta will tell the LNP and Abbott they can do absolutely nothing about it.

    Credlin will tell Abbott that the Australian people don’t want to hear about how fascist groups are undermining democracy, so it’s best to let these stories sink below the classifieds. Also, the Liberals will probably respond to the union royal commission by setting up taxpayer funded union training colleges, to teach unionists that they shouldn’t steal and stuff.

    If this country wasn’t so complacent and useless, there would already be murmurs among the top brass about staging a coup.

  23. Fisky

    Correct…. Abbott will look puzzled, talk passively and exhibit some implied regret that his daughter, you know, actually got a scholarship.

    He’ll start off by making some stupid joke about his daughter’s sex appeal, thinking a little humour will placate the Left. By the end of the denunciations, apologies, beggings-for-mercy, recriminations, and show trials by media, you will be able to locate the Prime Minister hanging by his necktie in the ladies’ bathroom.

  24. Joe Goodacre

    Abbott in truth is a bit of a perker as came out with the travel expenses issue a year ago.

    This ‘scholarship’ doesn’t pass the pub test – a one off scholarship is offered to his daughter that others weren’t able to apply for. Come on, we’re not stupid.

    Abbott’s in politics – it’s meant to all be out in the open. Whitehouse has courses that are accredited for HECS and it’s being alleged that Frances Abbott was chosen by Whitehouse to lobby on behalf of Whitehouse for new courses being recognised for HECS.

    https://newmatilda.com/2014/05/24/frances-abbott-chosen-%E2%80%98-merit%E2%80%99-help-lobby-fed-govt-regulators

    So yes the Socialist Alliance are twits and it’s a disgrace that the police are required for protection. But I for one am not going to pretend it’s a desirable state of affairs that a politician elected on an integrity platform hasn’t disclosed that his daughter was given a secret scholarship and potentially acted as a lobbyist.

  25. James

    From Ninemsn:

    Do you support changing the Racial Discrimination Act?

    YES 26519

    NO 26225

  26. Supplice

    Come on Joe, an allegation in New Matilda. That’s not exactly something you’d take into court, or even ICAC.

  27. PeterF

    I hope the Federal police are interviewing Elliot Downes as she has said they are going after all of Tony Abbotts family. Mark Latham has also decided to smear the Abbott daughters. Take the gloves off,Liberals, you will be kicked to death if you don’t respond.

  28. Infidel Tiger

    Joe, stop pretending to be libertarian when in fact you are a leftist berkshire hunt.

  29. Talleyrand

    Never guess it was an examination period at most tertiary institutions. No doubt these bozo’s are working on their special consideration applications during their down time from protesting.

    A little 10CC is appropriate here

    “Load up, load up, load up with rubber bullets
    Load up, load up, load up with rubber bullets

    Sergeant Baker started talkin’
    With a bullhorn in his hand
    He was cool, he was clear
    He was always in command
    He said “Blood will flow;…”

  30. Di

    Like Alabama in the sixties.

    You get comment of the day from me Vlad.

  31. tomix

    He’s been in Club Fed for 20 years and he can’t afford to pay for his daughters education?

  32. James

    The design college wants star students.

    Ms Abbott is one of them.

    Sour grapes not happy.

  33. James

    he can’t afford to pay for his daughters education?

    It’s not a case of affordability.

    As that article suggests, the college wants to entice her to study there so she won’t go to a competitor.

  34. calli

    Remember back in the early years of Howard’s government. His daughter graduated from Sydney Uni (I think it was Law) and he, as a private citizen, attended the graduation ceremony with wife and sons.

    And guess what…yep, the same species if Bozo disrupted the ceremony, because…Howard666.

    These amoeba brains never change.

  35. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    Have the SA (shades of Hitlers Brownshirts lad by the poofter Roehm.sonds like the greens dont it)have they become more prominent since the former office girl giLIARd got the flick?is the berluedchools plotting a coup? A change of Regime? (regime an alp phrase as in the nazi regime,the stalinist regime,the Maoist regime,the Saddam regime! Very appropriate.

  36. This ‘scholarship’ doesn’t pass the pub test

    *Men talking in Public Bar*

    Punter #1 – Abbotts daughter got a scholarship from a privately owned school using their own money.

    Punter #2 – Who gives a toss

  37. James

    Gillard used $100 million taxpayer funds to buy herself a professorship – not a peep.

    Howard / Abbott children study / work – fair game.

  38. Aristogeiton

    Infidel Tiger
    #1323418, posted on May 28, 2014 at 5:27 pm
    Joe, stop pretending to be libertarian when in fact you are a leftist berkshire hunt.

    +1. Joe readily admits to being a racist just so he can tar Andrew Bolt with the same brush. He’s half right, too.

  39. James

    travel expenses issue a year ago

    For Effs sake, this guy rides thousands of kms to remote towns to visit voters and holds pressies in every stop to answer to every Gillard wedge. It’s work in every sense. People are nitpicking a hundred dollars here and there. Sick

  40. Aristogeiton

    I think many who bang on about the ‘pub test’ confuse a public bar with their favourite wine bar on Lygon St.

  41. Notafan

    These ‘students’ no doubt get examined on the basis of a take home open book exam.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    +1. Joe readily admits to being a racist just so he can tar Andrew Bolt with the same brush. He’s half right, too.

    Joe has admitted to being physically abused as a child and claims it made him who he is.

    I say the abusers have much to answer for.

  43. Des Deskperson

    Joe, let’s assume that the Matilda allegations are true.

    The first is that she received a secret scholarship that others weren’t able to apply for.

    Whitehouse is a private institution, and can award scholarships to whom it likes on whatever grounds it chooses. The only issue, therefore, is whether the awarding of the Frances Abbott scholarship was in breach of whatever criteria and procedures the school has for assessing scholarship applicants. If these were breached, then presumably it’s a matter for the schools governing body. As I understand it, that body or its spokesperson doesn’t seem to think so.

    The second is that she was chosen to lobby the Government on behalf of the school.

    Here, the only integrity issue is whether Frances’s lobbying breached the Lobbyist Code of Conduct. No evidence to support this has been presented. Presumably the lobbied agency knew who Frances was and who she represented.

    So I’m not sure what the problem is or what Abbott was supposed to declare.

  44. James

    Matilda allegations

    Whatever allegations there are, they are all based on the assumption that Ms Abbott will never achieve anything without her dad.

    What a misogynist assumption.

  45. Senile Old Guy

    The second is that she was chosen to lobby the Government on behalf of the school.

    She was chosen as one of a group of students to be interviewed by TEQSA. Having attended a similar interview myself, you are there to answer their questions. If you like your organisation, as presumably selected people do, all you can do is accentuate the positives.

  46. thefrollickingmole

    Ive never seen the worm turn so quick.

    From faux outrage over “ditch the witch” to picketing and attacking the business premises of a private citizen being greeted with crickets by the commentari.

    FFS the left tried the “outrageous outrage” on Abbotts wife from the blow drier in chief about charity when he wasnt even hitched to the witch.

    Vile little scuttling creatures the left.

  47. MemoryVault

    Abbott and the rest of the LNP pansy ball-shavers have to learn there is a long-standing Aussie way of dealing with bullies. It’s brutal, but it works.

  48. Bazkay

    On the eve of tonight’s State of Origin it’s appropriate to remember that the Australian way to play the game is to “play the ball, not the man”. But of course that’s not the way the Socialist Alternative would see it.

  49. thefrollickingmole

    Found the facebook of the cockroach organizer who was named in the report.

    Shes the one pictured hitting a Abbott pinata with a stick.

    I do wonder if she is aware how much of a cookie cutter conformist she is? Have a look at her groups section, its a wankfest of leftism.

  50. Just popped downstairs to the public bar and conducted a quick straw poll on this matter.
    Result: “Skollar -er- what?”… “What sorta ship?”… “Who’s Tony Abbott?”… ” “Don’t care”… “Whaddaya talking about, who paid for what?” & so on.

  51. calli

    I see that Centrelink is one of Jessica’s ‘activities’. Parasite.

  52. cynical1

    Never heard a whimper when Rudd’s kids scored a gig as part of his election camapaign.

    Anna Bligh’s husband head of climate dept.

    Tim the hairdresser wondering around Indy like a well connected tramp.

    And on and on.

    Funny that…

  53. lem

    This continual attacking of Abbott’s wife and daughters- and we are talking violent intimidation not some nancy pantsy Bolt stuff- is against the law.

    If it were my daughters I would be straight into a court seeking a restraining order of whichever jurisdiction and screaming my bloody head off.

    So, what’s the wimp doing to protect his family?

  54. A Lurker

    This is not an Australia I recognise.

    Nor I, Rabz. These Socialist Alternative scum have been given too much comfort, too much accommodation, and too much of a national platform by the media, and especially by the ABC.

    They need to be pulled back into line now.

  55. If it were my daughters I would be straight into a court seeking a restraining order of whichever jurisdiction and screaming my bloody head off.

    If it were me inside being blockaded, by now there’d be at least one of those whimpering beta males without an adam’s apple.
    I wouldn’t be able to stay inside & achieve zero productivity without “popping out for a smoke/fresh air/some reason and be “forced to defend myself” when the chanting sooks tried to mob me.

  56. calli

    If it were my daughters I would be straight into a court seeking a restraining order of whichever jurisdiction and screaming my bloody head off.

    Yes.

  57. Fisky

    The Socialist Alternative are the stormtroopers and ideological enforcers of the Leftist Establishment. Don’t ever take seriously the guffawing about “Trots” and “Lefties” you sometimes hear from the ALP hard men. They fully support the Far Left.

  58. nic

    Sad, very very sad. I feel sorry for Ms. Abbott.

  59. Fisky

    This is not an Australia I recognise.

    It’s ugly and it’s frightening. It’s gonna get much worse, too.

  60. On the bright side, it’ll be possible at the moment to siddown and have a cuppa in peace at Max Brenner.

  61. Notafan

    Is this the same Socialist Alliance Gillard was a member of?

  62. lem

    SATP

    Last time I looked, Frances is a private citizen. It’s not her fault her father is a gutless bastard prepared to dump his constituency. Hell, we all know what the disappointment in him feels like.

    But she can hardly go out and clock someone. This is brownshirt behaviour that has gone way beyond peaceful protest and is threatening someones right to free movement. It needs to be friggin well jumped on now, and that means arrest the little pticks, and let em front up to a magistrate.

    FMD, the complete emasculation of our society as one of Gillard’s main aims seems to have been accomplished when we see scenes like this!

  63. nic

    “I think this represents everything that wrong with the system where the Prime Minister’s daughter went to an elite institution for virtually nothing while working class kids are going to pay through the roof because of her father’s actions,” she said.

    Some further thoughts; both Abbott and his wife could be best described as being middle class. Both work and both, like most, pay a large mortgage. The protestor in question is paying nowhere near the cost of their education. They too, are getting a free ride somewhere.

  64. Fisky

    Is this the same Socialist Alliance Gillard was a member of?

    No. The Socialist Alliance was created as a unity ticket of various Far Left groups, such as Resistance and the Socialist Workers Party, in order to contest the 2001 election (they got about 0.01% of the vote). Socialist Alternative, appropriately called “the SA” for short, are an ever further Left-wing extremist group that was if I recall correctly the product of a split in the Socialist Workers Party.

    As the Cat’s resident expert in and veteran of Left-wing extremism, you can take it from me!

  65. lem

    So can anyone tell me what the wimp Abbott is doing to protect his daughters from these junior sociopaths? Can you imagine the anxiety they must be feeling right now? Because if you don’t think that amongst them there isn’t some violent loony willing to make a name for him/her/itself then you are seriously mistaken.

  66. Fisky

    Don’t think for a second that there isn’t a Leftist Breivik being trained and prepped for unleashing murder in the cause of political extremism. It’s only a matter of time before many people lose their lives here.

  67. nic

    Last time I looked, Frances is a private citizen

    And should have certain rights to privacy.

  68. lem

    You see, there is some serious envelope pushing going on here. First we have the inane March in March, then the enabled hijacking of Qanda when Pyne was on, then vicious abuse and scuffles with Julie Bishop and Sophie Mirrabella, then attacking the young Libs debating night, the the wimp cancels his attendance at a University, and now private citizens are being bailed up at work by violent crowds resisting police.

    This is going to end in someone getting physically injured. Tell me Tony, do you love your family?

  69. john constantine

    imagine if they went after barry o’bamas family like this.

    imagine that white people in guy fawkes occupy masks tried to get through the american secret service to throw a scare into the obama girls.

    socialist flavoured pink mist is what would happen, is my tip.

  70. Toiling Mass

    Exactly, CL, the acronym of Emily’s List (Early Money Is Like Yeast, Sluts (not sure what the ‘s’ is for then)) is about a group of people handing out money they raised.

    I suppose in the case of the scholarship, however, merit is involved.

  71. rickw

    This is where you end up when decent people are unable to carry a .45 and use it judiciously.

    Seriously, we live in a society where there are no direct consequences for being a dangerous asshole.

  72. Tom

    It’s only a matter of time before many people lose their lives here.

    Remember 20-30 years ago when the left had state special branches designed to keep an eye on this stuff dismantled? The special branches were supposed to be a backup for ASIO and I bet they have never been re-constituted.

    Does ASIO have enough resources to monitor this scum when most of its demands on surveillance manpower is taken up by the muslim terrorism threat imported by the ALP?

  73. MemoryVault

    This is where you end up when decent people are unable to carry a .45 and use it judiciously.

    You can thank Howard for that.

  74. You can thank Howard for that.

    I do often, and forcefully.
    Nothing like the pleasure of walking past LNP how-to-vote types at the polling booth, and telling them they’ll get my vote back when I get my guns back.
    Sneering retort (usually from some LNP plibersek clone) “Waddaya gonna do, vote labor forever huh?”
    “At least Whitlam never took my guns – so yep, why not?”

  75. It strikes me that we are poorly organised to deal with this sort of thing here. In the US I suspect there’d be groups of men ready and able to counter this sort of leftist idiocy, at least in the better parts of the country.

    Maybe I give them to much credit.

    It’s not really a police matter. It’s a cultural one requiring a show of support, in force.

  76. lem

    It’s not really a police matter. It’s a cultural one requiring a show of support, in force

    It IS a police matter. If I, as a private citizen, had people stalking me, trying to interfere with my going around minding my own business, and these same people were making a ruckus outside my workplace, and even trying to enter unlawfully onto the premises, I would be able to march straight down to a court and get a restraining order on them to prevent them harassing me, as well as to keep them a minimum distance away from me, under pain of arrest.

    Bad, unlawful behaviour is not a cultural issue. That sort of thinking has got us where we are now.

  77. Bad, unlawful behaviour is not a cultural issue. That sort of thinking has got us where we are now.

    No. Entirely the opposite. What do you think 18C is? It is the abrogation of our own responsibility to maintain a civil culture to the state. Not only that, but it produces an utter inversion of the normal processes that maintain that culture, such that the dominant culture is eroded over time, and degeneracy is protected.

  78. Infidel Tiger

    It’s not really a police matter. It’s a cultural one requiring a show of support, in force

    If you think it’s not a place matter, then I dare you to push one of the protestors or give one a thoroughly deserved size 12 to the box.

    The only thing The Australian legal system hates more than a free man going about his business is a man defending his freedom.

    Toilet of a country.

  79. lem

    Listen, driftorge, I agree 18 c is bad and should go. That’s not what I’m talking about and you know it. Frances Abbott’s treatment has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with extremist freedom hating narrow minded little pricks using politics as an excuse to bully private citizens. We allow this and tomorrow its the rest of us who’ll have the trogs at the front door baying for our blood.

  80. Maybe I wan’t clear :18C and the rest of the anti discrimination legislation is a large part of why this is happening now.

    The police are there, and in force. But unless there is an actual incident, that is how they will stay, and that is what the little pricks are banking on.

    These are solid, restrained, trained Aussie cops, not the Manus Island boys. Unfortunately, what is needed is a force that the pricks don’t feel safe around. Turn the threat around and it would evaporate so fast.

    If you think it’s not a place matter, then I dare you to push one of the protestors or give one a thoroughly deserved size 12 to the box.

    I didn’t suggest that, and for obvious reason. I suggested a large, unmistakably hostile force that isn’t necessarily bound by the normal restraint that our police are (necessarily) under.

  81. Mr Rusty

    It’s not really a police matter. It’s a cultural one requiring a show of support, in force

    Believe me, it’s crossed my mind but then I realised while fascist turds like Raue get suspended from Uni for a month for threatening the Deputy PM, if you laid a finger on him or any of his scum mates you would end up behind bars for 6 months.

  82. lem

    The lack of activity of France Abbott’s gutless father to stand up for the rights of a private citizen against the far left has nothing to do with 18 c and everything to do with political appeasement. And Neville Chamberlain showed us how that ends.

  83. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    Our migration programme should include a lot of Russian Policemen and Women ,they are really gentle and understanding with protesting Maggots like the new hitlers SA ,give them brownshirts .

  84. nilk, iron bogan

    And here is young Elliot Downes*, formerly of Bendigo, in a homosexual relationship and studying International Relations. Going by her facebook page, she’s as red as they come, and should be deported to NORK forthwith. They could do with such a shining light over there, to show the locals how it’s really done.

  85. nilk, iron bogan

    *that’s a facebook link.

  86. gnasher

    I moved out of Aussie three months back as I needed a job (my family is still there). I fully agree with IT that the Libs are labor lite, as I pointed out months ago.
    TA is another David Cameron & look how his vote went at the EUSSR elections.
    Abbot had a mandate to crush the the left & he has fkd it.
    I will not never vote for them again..not that I would vote labor in a million years, a war is coming, history repeats.

  87. JC

    You know what, I know this is a private scholarship thingi and there isn’t anyone here who would despise the Socialist Alliance more than I do, but this thing sucks.

    Of course the argument is that this is a private school and the owner can do what she chooses with her money. However you can apply this argument with say the Chinese Politburo members children becoming billionaires.

    Abbott should have paid the fee in order to remove any traces of problems. It’s not as though he isn’t earning enough money to fork out the cash. This stinks and reminds me of the Lying Slapper’s squeeze taking free tickets because of who he was sharing a house with…. I’m not sure about the bed.

  88. JC

    And I agree with Fisk. If Brandis doesn’t want to remove 18C he then should make leftwing discussion illegal.

  89. JC, the scholarship was granted 3 yrs ago, when ALP was in govt, and Abbot was “unelectable”.

  90. JC

    JC, the scholarship was granted 3 yrs ago, when ALP was in govt, and Abbot was “unelectable”.

    Are you shitting me? I got the impression like this was this year?

  91. JC

    If Stevie’s right I take it all back. This is just a fucking beat up of his family then. I thought it was handed out this year.

  92. Gab

    I got the impression like this was this year?

    Then the ferals and the media have achieved their goal.

  93. Foggyfig

    JC

    Steve is right – it was awarded in 2011 for three years. Abbott was in opposition. They are just being wankers and using any excuse to protest.

  94. MemoryVault

    JC

    Ditto for Abbott’s other daughter working for DFAT.
    Got her job competitively via the usual selection process, under the Gillard grubbermint.
    Didn’t stop the media scum trying to beat it up as some kind of nepotism last week.

  95. nilk, iron bogan

    She graduated last year, JC.

    PRIME Minister Tony Abbott is strongly defending the career of one of his daughters after questions were raised over whether she had benefited from favours to her father by a friend.

    Frances Abbott in 2011 won a $60,000 scholarship to the Whitehouse Institute of Design whose chairman Les Taylor is a longtime friend and supporter of Mr Abbott.

    She graduated in 2013 with a bachelor degree, The Guardian reported today.

    Frances, 22, is now working for Whitehouse in Melbourne as a teacher’s aide and aims to study for her masters degree later this year.

  96. JC

    Fme

    The leftwing media are just total fucking scumbags. There’s nothing you can take of what they say at face value. Everything fucking thing has to be checked with the fine comb.

  97. nilk, iron bogan

    Yup. And if you consider it was a three year scholarship awarded in 2011 and she graduated in 2013, she must have worked bloody hard for it.

  98. Robert O.

    The left wing students are protesting about alleged nepotism, but I would remind them in the good old days of the Communist regimes in Eastern Europe it was very difficult for children from a bourgeois family to get an education since university places were given to children from working families preferentially. Further I wonder how many examples there are of children from good socialist families here getting positions not on merit!

  99. Foggyfig

    I can’t work out how to do links with my tablet but there is an interview on 3aw with Neil Mitchell and Elliot whoever – jealous litle cow is all I can say. Mitchell was laughing at her.

  100. Andrew

    FMD, when even cats didn’t know it was in 2011 then the leftoids have won.

    Even Destroy the Joint was pushing the filthy lie that Frances666 got the scholarship since the election. Led yards have been calling Abbott666 a grub over it.

  101. A Lurker

    The Left lies all the time JC – you know, whatever it takes – never take the media at face value, they are always spinning some kind of Leftist agenda.

  102. Cold-Hands

    Even the ALPBC said that there were only a “few dozen” protesters there, suggesting that the actual number was twenty or less. This handful of activists blocked a public carriageway and impeded free entrance into a private building. Protesting is fine but blocking the road or access is not. The police should have moved them off the road and out of the way- and arrested them if the ferals refused to obey lawful direction.

  103. nilk, iron bogan

    <a href=http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/neil-mitchell-blog/were-going-after-all-of-them-frances-abbott-targeted/20140528-3939b.html?Here you go, Foggyfig.

  104. Senile Old Guy

    The Left lies all the time JC – you know, whatever it takes – never take the media at face value, they are always spinning some kind of Leftist agenda.

    Exactly. I never believe anything in the media that is slightly controversial.

  105. nilk, iron bogan

    Crap. Forgot to close the tags. That’ll teach me to comment before caffeine.

    HERE!

    This is also a quick lesson in html. Tell the computer you’re opening your tag with “” after it. For italics use “i”. At the end of the bit you want italicised, close your tag the same way, adding a “/”before the letter. So to italicise this I have written:

    “[i]this[/i]” where the [] stand in for the “”

    (When you want to add links, you open your bracket and use the letter “a”, then write “href=add your link here” then close. Write the text you want to use to highlight your link, then close it again with a “/a” as per the example above.

    nb. I am not an educator and I am functionally illiterate when it comes to computers and html. :D

  106. nilk, iron bogan

    Damnit. I knew it. You need to greater than and less than symbols. To start you use the “less than” (above the comma), add your “i”, then “greater than” (above the full stop).

    Far canal. I’m going to go get coffee.

  107. Murf Oscar

    Sadly this blog is becoming the anarchist’s forum of choice.

    Time to leave!

  108. Joe Goodacre

    Des Deskperson,

    Whitehouse is a private institution, and can award scholarships to whom it likes on whatever grounds it chooses.

    I agree. I agree with unrestricted free speech, so even if Whitehouse were secretly funding Frances to lobby is not an issue for me.

    The only issue, therefore, is whether the awarding of the Frances Abbott scholarship was in breach of whatever criteria and procedures the school has for assessing scholarship applicants. If these were breached, then presumably it’s a matter for the schools governing body. As I understand it, that body or its spokesperson doesn’t seem to think so.

    I have no issue with Whitehouse’s actions.

    The second is that she was chosen to lobby the Government on behalf of the school.

    Here, the only integrity issue is whether Frances’s lobbying breached the Lobbyist Code of Conduct. No evidence to support this has been presented. Presumably the lobbied agency knew who Frances was and who she represented.

    I don’t agree that those are the only two issues.

    Frances got this one of scholarship solely because of her name and the opportunities that came with that. That name represents political influence.

    If it was truly merit based, it would have been public and available to others.

    If it was a commercial decision to gather publicitly (look, we have Frances Abbott at our university), there would have been no issue publically discolosing it. There is no issue in my eyes towards Whitehouse.

    Rather, the issue is Tony Abbott’s integrity. The biggest factor in generating integrity is appearing to be objective and beyond purchase. There are rules regarding the disclosure of gifts. The relevant provisions are below…

    Within 28 days of making an oath or affirmation, each Member is required to provide to the Registrar of Members’ Interests a statement of the Member’s registrable interests and the registrable interests of which the Member is aware of the Member’s spouse and any children wholly or mainly dependent on the Member for support, in accordance with resolutions adopted by the House and in a form determined by the Committee of Members’ Interests from time to time.

    The registrable interests include:

    …gifts valued at more than $750 from official sources or more than $300 from other sources, provided that a gift from family members or personal friends in a purely personal capacity need not be registered unless the Member judges that an appearance of conflict of interest may be seen to exist;

    A $60k gift to his daughter is a material gift. Particularly since the chairman was a friend and it appears that Frances has gone on to lobby for Whitehouse. That is the issue from Tony Abbott’s perspective; it wouldn’t have been an issue if it was disclosed. Instead, it’s more likely that he knew it looked bad and therefore it wasn’t disclosed.

    Tony Abbott has since disclosed a bunch of other gifts received by his wife and family.

    Is this the end of the world? No. It is however a big lapse of judgment in my opinion.

  109. .

    Christ. These space cadets just lie and accept it. They really think their dishonesty is for the greater good of FreeStuff (TM).

  110. Rococo Liberal

    These people, the so called Socialist Alternative, are fascists.

    Fascist and soclialist are ans always were the same. All collectivists and statists are left wing. Once we realise that we can just ignore them when they rant and hit them very, very hard when the step over the line.

  111. Fiona

    Where was all the fuss when Rudd’s kids got benefits?

  112. Rococo Liberal

    Fisky says:

    It must be a criminal offense to incite class envy

    OK Cats, let’s get practical here. There is a germ of truth in what Fisky says.

    Whilst over the last 30 years or so the left has been trading on ‘discrimination’ as the greatest evil in the world, and has slowly strangled free speech in the process, the real evil in the world has been that which animates the left: envy.

    We on the right need to use this to squash the left. We need somehow to invent our own ‘crime’ and lay it at the left’s door.

    Thus the sin of envy and it’s evil sister, greed for the things owned by others, needs to be highlighted.

    A new Federal Act oalong the lines of the Racial Discrimination Act, may be the way to go.

    Amongst here we have much talent and influence. If we could get idea developed into a postivie program, I’m sure those of us with contacts in the Liberal Party could get them interested.

    Let’s face it, ein the last 100 years, nvy has killed far more people than any form of discrimination. One could even argue that the holocaust was driven by poor white trash’s envy of the Jews’ superior lifestyle and culture.

  113. Rococo Liberal

    On second thoughts I don’t think we have to use the law to get our point across, we just have to come up with a simple and srticulate statement of the ‘crime’ of the left.

    We will achieve more by popularising a pithy statement of claim against the statist buffoons, than by arguing nice ecnomic points.

  114. Notafan

    Mr Abbott was not required to disclose the scholarship and this was confirmed by the bureaucracy.
    If it wasn’t a public scholarship then why would anyone subject their daughter to the backbiting bound to ensue while she was studying?
    A scholarship isn’t a gift, there are usually strings attached like maintaining good grades, being of good character etc.
    Some private schools offer unsolicited scholarships to kids who show sporting prowess, or girls who are doing well academically, it’s good for the schools reputation possibly Frances was seen to have personal qualities that made her attractive to Whitehouse.

  115. James

    Abbot had a mandate to crush the the left & he has fkd it.

    Too early to call. The government should govern for all and bring people with them.

    Crushing the left has to be done in subtle ways.

  116. James

    The lack of activity of France Abbott’s gutless father

    The whole point of the protest is to attack Abbott by proxy, prompt him to react, drag him down the gutter, thus raise their profile and validate their cause.

    You can never reason with scum and they do not deserve any attention.

    Let them protest, scream and shout whatever. They have freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of expression. This is democracy.

    The more drastic actions they take, the more they discredit their own cause.

  117. James

    A scholarship isn’t a gift, there are usually strings attached like maintaining good grades, being of good character etc.
    Some private schools offer unsolicited scholarships to kids who show sporting prowess, or girls who are doing well academically, it’s good for the schools reputation possibly Frances was seen to have personal qualities that made her attractive to Whitehouse.

    It is offensive to suggest Abbott should declare his daughter’s scholarship as a gift.

    As a proud father, he has every reason to believe his daughter earns that on merit.

  118. A Lurker

    In the past, envy was your own personal kick up the bum to go out and better yourself and your situation. Nowadays it means whinging and demonstrating and putting your hand out for other people’s money without doing the hard yards to earn it.

  119. Mantaray

    Look guys, the whole point of “class envy” or “class war” or any of that stuff is that it’s all a furphy.

    The fascist protester students want to get degrees so’s they can earn a lot more money (they hope), with much less sweat, than the plebs. The pollies egging them on by either direct encouragement or a condoning silence, are all well-heeled one percenters on half a million (including their perks) a year. Meanwhile the plebs themselves, who are ripped off by the fascist students and shyster pollies, want to be wealthy…ASAP and without working…. if they can hit the jackpot somehow; win Lotto or some other prize, or maybe land a rich spouse.

    So who is it that the formenters of class battle represent? It’s just one set of rich/wannabe richsters abusing another group of well-heeled types. As I say; it’s all BS.
    .

  120. MemoryVault

    Too early to call. The government should govern for all and bring people with them.
    Crushing the left has to be done in subtle ways.

    Yeah. Much better to wait until you are back in opposition before trying to make waves.
    Seriously?

    Chris Turney mounts a multi-million dollar “expedition” of “climate scientists” down to Antarctica as a cover for a BBC “documentary” on global warming, all funded by the taxpayer via a university, and the Minister for Education says nothing.

    Chris Turney takes a Ship of Fools down to a known hazardous area of Antarctica, without even consulting with the Australian Antarctic Division, thereby causing a multi-million dollar rescue which will cost the taxpayers further millions, not to mention stuffing up REAL research by half a dozen countries, and the Minister for the Environment says nothing.

    Mark Scott thumbs his nose at Section 79 of the Crimes Act and publishes official secrets on the ABC, thereby causing a major international incident costing Australian businesses millions, and the Attorney General says nothing.

    Mark Scott allows and condones the ABC portraying a law-abiding citizen as a dog f*cker, thereby embroiling the ABC in a costly defamation action – at the taxpayer’s expense, and the Minister for Telecommunications says nothing.

    Tell me oh Andrew the Wise, in what “subtle ways” should we deal we these actions by the left?

  121. UN Owen

    I was not aware the name “Elliott” was now unisex (or has been unisex for at least 18 years!)
    Anyway, Ms Elliott Downes has mixed her metaphors – it should be “pay through the nose” & not “pay through the roof”.
    Back to class Elliott – you need more learning & less protesting.

  122. stackja

    Liberty Quotes
    When the far Left was a global force, the mainstream liberal Left had to draw dividing lines and defend itself from its attacks. Now that the far Left threatens no one, the borders have gone. The media would hound from public life any conservative who shared platforms with members of a neo-Nazi group. But respectable leftists can now associate with those who would once have been regarded as poisonous extremists — and no one notices.
    — Nick Cohen

  123. Joe Goodacre

    James,

    It is offensive to suggest Abbott should declare his daughter’s scholarship as a gift.

    As a proud father, he has every reason to believe his daughter earns that on merit.

    A scholarship only offered to Frances is merit based?

    Clearly it’s not merit based because merit (like justice) is meant to be blind and it would have been available for all to try for it.

    Being offended is a bit of fake outrage that’s thrown out there to distract everyone from what is an obvious lapse in judgment.

    I must be living on a different planet to the people who don’t consider free education to the value of $60,000 as a gift.

  124. Notafan

    Same planet as the holders of SIX BILLION in HECS, perhaps.
    A scholarship requires the recipient to work, it was granted when Mr Abbott was languishing in opposition.
    You assume that the giver of the scholarship didn’t and couldn’t assess merit without an open process?
    Private schools are known to poach kids from other schools all the time. No open scholarship process just an offer to kids in the public eye who show signs of being athletic champions.

  125. Gab

    Let’s face it, there’s be no such furore and angst if Jessica Rudd had received a scholarship.

  126. nic

    Clearly it’s not merit based because merit (like justice) is meant to be blind and it would have been available for all to try for it.

    Such as a Senate position on the Labor ticket?

  127. Notafan

    Debt, I mean
    Should Whitehouse be commended for providing quality education for significantly less than the same education in the public sector, by the way?

  128. Infidel Tiger

    A scholarship only offered to Frances is merit based?

    You have no idea what Whitehouse’s scholarship arrangements are.

    Go away, weirdo.

  129. .

    Clearly it’s not merit based because merit (like justice) is meant to be blind and it would have been available for all to try for it.

    Merit is blind? What the fuck are talent scouts mate?

  130. Joe Goodacre

    Notafan,

    Same planet as the holders of SIX BILLION in HECS, perhaps.

    Frances isn’t paying it back – HECS payers will – that’s the point.

    A scholarship requires the recipient to work, it was granted when Mr Abbott was languishing in opposition.

    Firstly, since the details of the arrangement weren’t publically available, we don’t know what requirements were agreed between Frances and Whitehouse.

    Secondly, even if your assertion was true, a gift with strings (if you can call getting good marks ‘strings’) is still a gift.

    Thirdly, only the leftist media were calling Abbott unelectable – they were clearly wrong. This was a gift to the leader of the opposition who went on to win the next election.

    Fourthly, of course people give gifts to people in opposition to curry favour when they are no longer in opposition.

    You assume that the giver of the scholarship didn’t and couldn’t assess merit without an open process?

    I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that you can’t have a process based on merit without some form of comparing performance to other people.

    Private schools are known to poach kids from other schools all the time. No open scholarship process just an offer to kids in the public eye who show signs of being athletic champions.

    How does that remotely describe what happens here. If a school gave free education to the son of a politician who didn’t declare that either I’d call that a lapse of judgment too.

  131. calli

    Clearly it’s not merit based because merit (like justice) is meant to be blind and it would have been available for all to try for it.

    No it isn’t. She submitted a portfolio. Whitehouse liked it enough to offer her a scholarship.

    The. End.

  132. Gab

    YTF do you care, Joe? It’s private money, not publicly-funded, from a private institute. Talk about jealousy and being a snot-nosed busy-body. Mind you, you’d not say a word if a Leftarded pollie’s kid got a taxpayer-funded scholarship.

  133. .

    Firstly, since the details of the arrangement weren’t publically available, we don’t know what requirements were agreed between Frances and Whitehouse.

    Secondly, even if your assertion was true, a gift with strings (if you can call getting good marks ‘strings’) is still a gift.

    ??!

    Assertions? Try priving yours first! FFS!

  134. Gab

    She submitted a portfolio. Whitehouse liked it enough to offer her a scholarship.

    A distinction student, articulate, intelligent, showing promise and talent, how dare they select her for a scholarship!!1!!

  135. Notafan

    So the portfolio equates to the sporting prowess in determining merit then?

  136. Aristogeiton

    Joe Goodacre
    #1324490, posted on May 29, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Once again Red Joe proves he’s not a liberal, libertarian or even a conservative. I don’t bother responding to the statist rantings of this self-confessed racist anymore.

  137. Joe Goodacre

    Calli,

    If an ordinary member of the public submitted a portfolio and received a scholarship that hadn’t existed before and was offered to no one else, no one would be talking about it.

    It’s clearly different when the daughter of the leader of the opposition receives it.

    That’s politics. Everyone in the game knows what they’ve signed up to.

    To the average person it smells that he didn’t disclose it.

    If we’re honest we’d say the same thing if it was Bill Shorten.

  138. Gab

    This all happened three years ago and yet leftards have decided NOW is a good time to go the full feral on Abbott’s kid. What a mob of envy-ridden talentless greedy selfish grubs.

  139. calli

    To the average person it smells that he didn’t disclose it.

    No it doesn’t. It only smells to media types, jealous peers and political rivals.

    No, I take that back. It does smell to us ‘common’ types…of that rank fragrance called humility. Had it been my child I’d be taking out half page ads and shouting from the rooftops. But then again, I’m a shameless skite.

  140. Joe Goodacre

    Gab,

    I care for the same reason I care about the Obeid’s.

    There’s a reason these disclosure rules exist. Abbott probably wouldn’t do an Obeid. But there’s some pollie in parliament being offered a perk on the side who will have noticed that Abbott’s daughter received $60k of free schooling on a scholarship offered to no one else and Abbott didn’t disclose it and they’ll consider not disclosing their perk. It’s about perception to the public in these matters and the example that we expect from the leader of a party. I’m not making any noise about his other daughter for obvious reasons that it was publically known.

    When the government is handing out favours left right and centre and that isn’t changing anytime soon, at least the left agrees with me that we should know who is currying that favour.

    I’d say the same thing if the situation involved Rudd’s daughter. Labor or Liberal has nothing to do with it.

  141. Gab

    None of your business what a private business does with it’s own money and who it selects to give a scholarship to and by the way, this is not the first time they’ve handed out a scholarship. Why don’t you complain about that then, you envy-ridden socialist creep.

  142. Joe Goodacre

    Gab,

    It doesn’t matter that it’s three years ago.

    That it was three years ago and comes up now illustrates the stupidity of it. There’s no skeleton in the closet that won’t eventually come out. Labor have just waited with their dirt and combined with the thrashing he’s received on the broken promises with taxation, Abbott’s in a bit of strife.

    All this talk of jealousy being the only reason anyone would question Abbott’s judgment is a complete misdirection.

  143. JC

    Badacre

    STFU. The scholarship was handed out in 2011. You idiot.. Creating all that drama above thread.

  144. Gab

    Yadda yadda yadda “I hate Abbott therefore I will make up any amount of lies to made him look bad” yadda yadda.

  145. JC

    Bad acre

    As someone mentioned earlier this happened in 2011. Abbott had no influence then. He was in government. Now seriously stop hi-alaning everyone and knock it off.

  146. Gab

    This is just a revisit of that wall punch that never happened 30 years ago but that the left will insist on playing it out like it was yesterday.

  147. Joe Goodacre

    JC,

    Climategate came out 8 years after the event.

    Barry’s bottle of grange came 3 years ago as well, while he was opposition leader as well.

    3 years is a shallow grave for skeletons. Frances has probably only just finished her degree (i.e. receiving the benefit).

    Anyway, happy to disagree on this.

  148. candy

    I’m not making any noise about his other daughter for obvious reasons that it was publically known.

    blind freddie can see your Abbott hatred, joe. You’re not fooling anyone.

    Don’t pick on the young ladies. It’s poor from.

  149. Infidel Tiger

    Anyway, happy to disagree on this.

    You’re happy to disagree on most points, because you are a far left whackjob who was beaten up by his parents.

    The only argument is working out if you were beaten up too much or too little.

  150. candy

    also poor form! and not at all gentlemanly. They can’t fight back, you know.

  151. Gab

    Basically the likes of Joe are saying Abbott’s kid is a talentless dumbf*ck. Even if that were the case, WHICH IT IS NOT, so what? IT IS PRIVATE MONEY FROM A PRIVATE INSTITUTION. These socialist low-lifes are really the lowest form of carbon-based life on this planet.

  152. .

    Merit is blind!

    FFS. No it isn’t! It needs to be identified. Otherwise it would be called “deviation from the norm”.

    Goodacre still hasn’t noted why we need talent scouts is merit is blind, or why geniuses are failed to be recognised in the paradigm they break.

  153. Yobbo

    Where is my fucking rifle?

  154. Rabz

    Where is my fucking rifle?

    Ring JC’s suicide hotline first, Yobs – they may be able to talk you out of it.

  155. Aristogeiton

    Joe Goodacre
    #1324545, posted on May 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm
    Gab,

    I care for the same reason I care about the Obeid’s.

    You’re a disgrace, comparing a private institution voluntarily giving Frances Abbott a (non-declarable) scholarship to Eddie Obeid’s rank corruption and criminality. Give yourself an uppercut.

  156. Aristogeiton

    Joe Goodacre
    #1324545, posted on May 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm
    [...]
    It’s about perception to the public in these matters

    “to the end it may be a government of laws perception (read: twitter mobs and Fairfax journos) and not of men”.

    Great civilization you propose there.

  157. Joe Goodacre

    What’s interesting is the comparison between the dirt on Hockey and the dirt on Abbott.

    Increasing the share of costs paid by HECS students is one of the battlegrounds.

    The best Labor have of Hockey is a video when he was a student saying that he will protest for free education. Hockey can laugh that off and even leverage it to say ‘see I was just like you’.

    The dirt on Abbott is an undisclosed benefit from the college to a daughter worth $60,000 that happened 3 years ago. That will be spun that he’s out of touch, his daughter didn’t pay what he’s advocating and he’s integrity is questionable.

    Is there other dirt out there on him? I wouldn’t confidently bet against it.

  158. Mr Skeletor

    Is Joe Tim Matherson?

  159. Aristogeiton

    Joe Goodacre
    #1324590, posted on May 29, 2014 at 3:20 pm
    What’s interesting is the comparison between the dirt on Hockey and the dirt on Abbott.

    Dirt? DIRT??? What bloody dirt? How about you cut dirt?

  160. brc

    Let’s say the person who handed out the scholarship is abbots best mate. Let’s say it’s the only scholarship they ever handed out.

    Let’s say they only handed it out because it was abbots daughter and there was no merit.

    Still no story because a private org can give its money to whoever it wants, for whatever reason, at whatever time.

    Nobody is criticising Emily’s list for handing out money. It’s the same thing.

  161. Aristogeiton

    Infidel Tiger
    #1324562, posted on May 29, 2014 at 3:00 pm
    Anyway, happy to disagree on this.

    You’re happy to disagree on most points, because you are a far left whackjob who was beaten up by his parents.

    Not hard enough.

  162. Gab

    Let’s say it’s the only scholarship they ever handed out.

    Except it’s not.

  163. Joe Goodacre

    The irony – two weeks ago I’m an Abbott lover because I think laying the boot in to him on the budget needs to keep into perspective that he’s better than Labor and I criticised people who compared his integrity with that of Julia Gillard.

    Now I’m an Abbott hater because I think it shows poor judgment that he didn’t disclose a $60k benefit received by his daughter from an institution that is chaired by a Liberal donor where that scholarship didn’t exist previously, wasn’t publically known and hasn’t been offered since.

  164. Aristogeiton

    It didn’t have to be declared, so can you please stop lying about it you commie?

  165. MemoryVault

    Joe

    Firstly, since the details of the arrangement weren’t publically available, we don’t know what requirements were agreed between Frances and Whitehouse.

    So what?
    In 1966 a prestigious private school offered me a scholarship. It didn’t exist before it was offered to me, and it wasn’t offered to anyone else. It was matter of expediency for the school – their name, their reputation, their money, their business, my advantage.

    At the time an Asian kid my age had just been enrolled there by his parents. They were successful business people in the Asian country he came from, and he had just won a major Asian junior swimming title. The school was looking for a training partner for him. I had just won the same event at state level in WA. I had good grades at high school.

    My dad was a copper at the time, and up for promotion. You think maybe he should have declared the scholarship offer to his superiors in case the school might have been hoping for some advantage from the WA Police Force, somewhere down the track?

    You think any of it was anybody’s business except me, my parents, and the school?

  166. Gab

    I leave the boring buffoon for you to deal with, Aristo.

  167. Joe Goodacre

    Dirt in the case of Hockey should be in quotation marks.

    Dirt in the case of Abbott and this issue doesn’t require quotation marks. I consider it to be a skeleton.

  168. Aristogeiton

    Joe Goodacre
    #1324600, posted on May 29, 2014 at 3:24 pm
    The irony – two weeks ago I’m an Abbott lover because I think laying the boot in to him on the budget needs to keep into perspective that he’s better than Labor and I criticised people who compared his integrity with that of Julia Gillard.

    Now I’m an Abbott hater because I think it shows poor judgment that he didn’t disclose a $60k benefit received by his daughter from an institution that is chaired by a Liberal donor where that scholarship didn’t exist previously, wasn’t publically known and hasn’t been offered since.

    Those without principle are often confounded by the principled behaviour of those around them.

    As if the factor that motivates people on this blog is a sympathy for, or antipathy towards, Tony Abbott.

  169. Aristogeiton

    Gab
    #1324603, posted on May 29, 2014 at 3:25 pm
    I leave the boring buffoon for you to deal with, Aristo.

    I’m already in Sinc’s bad books after the thread of doom in which I swore to be “more Philippa Martyr than JC”. Joe and I have had a previous thread of doom regarding Andrew Bolt. He can’t be reasoned with; he just bloviates, lies and changes the subject.

  170. .

    Joe Goodacre
    #1324604, posted on May 29, 2014 at 3:25 pm
    Dirt in the case of Hockey should be in quotation marks.

    Dirt in the case of Abbott and this issue doesn’t require quotation marks. I consider it to be a skeleton.

    I consider you on another planet…

  171. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Who’s this Joe Goodarselicker?

    Another corruption-loving elitist Liars party scumbag or yet another member of the racist greenfilth?

  172. brc

    Now I’m an Abbott hater because I think

    Nobody’s calling you an abbot hater if you actually read the comments. They’re saying you -and everyone else – have no business’s saying what his daughter should or should not have received.

  173. Des Deskperson

    There are three issues here:

    a) did Abbott or Whitehouse do anything wrong? No
    b) should Abbott have declared it as a gift? I agree that it would have been safer and smarter to do, even if the status of the scholarship as a ‘gift’ is fuzzy. Perceptions of corruption are almost as damaging to public confidence as actual malfeasance.
    c) would it have made any difference to Ms Downes and her followers had he done so? No

  174. .

    Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC
    #1324642, posted on May 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm
    Who’s this Joe Goodarselicker?

    Another corruption-loving elitist Liars party scumbag or yet another member of the racist greenfilth?

    I give you Exhibit A why the Liberal Party is fucked: he’s a paid up member.

  175. ugh

    “where that scholarship didn’t exist previously”

    FFS it wasn’t a formal public scholarship program Joe – the school has funding for scholarships and they award them when students submit work that merits them. On your logic no scholarship they awarded on that basis ever existed before – was every one of them a scandal?

    Have you seen Frances’ portfolio? Was it rubbish in your obviously expert opinion Joe? How about you show us evidence that more qualified students didn’t receive scholarships then we can talk…

    “Barry’s bottle of grange came 3 years ago as well, while he was opposition leader as well.”

    It arrived when he was elected Premier – it was gift congratulating him for winning you moron. If you’re gonna spin lefty BS at least get your facts straight.

  176. CatAttack

    Note the way they put Joe Hockey’s $250 “administration fee” in quotes. Given the source of most of these statements and their so called “investigation” immediately makes me very suspicious. What sort of fee was this? Not a fee related in anyway to the student union by any chance? Anyone got an idea?

  177. Eddystone

    Steve at the Pub
    #1323616, posted on May 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    Nothing like the pleasure of walking past LNP how-to-vote types at the polling booth, and telling them they’ll get my vote back when I get my guns back.
    Sneering retort (usually from some LNP plibersek clone) “Waddaya gonna do, vote labor forever huh?”
    “At least Whitlam never took my guns – so yep, why not?”

    The dumb bastards. There’s about a million votes on offer to the party that seriously reforms gun laws.

  178. nilk, iron bogan

    Joe Goodacre
    #1324549, posted on May 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    That it was three years ago and comes up now illustrates the stupidity of it. There’s no skeleton in the closet that won’t eventually come out. Labor have just waited with their dirt and combined with the thrashing he’s received on the broken promises with taxation, Abbott’s in a bit of strife.

    This.

    There is no depth to which the Left won’t stoop, and the Joe Goodacres of the world will be cheering them on.

    Until they find themselves up against the wall come the revolution*, of course.

    *NADT

  179. CatAttack

    What gets me is the absolutely earth shattering trivia that the Left fixate on. 1000s die at sea. Yawn. Accidents happen. Tony Abbott winks. And it’s the end of civilisation as we know it. The thing is nothing has changed from when Abbott was in opposition to Abbott in government. The same shit just keeps on appearing day after day.

  180. .

    Is Joe Goodacre’s ISP address from Sussex St?

    His views are perplexing. Once he agreed with me on Councils triple and quadruple dipping…now this.

  181. James B

    Why not execute the people responsible? That would mean it’s never done again.

    These people think nothing they do has consequences, because, well, it doesn’t. Give it some.

  182. Yobbo

    They could start with actually arresting them and charging them with trespass. The sheltered darlings would never dare step out of line again after a single night in a cell.

  183. They could start with actually arresting them and charging them with trespass. The sheltered darlings would never dare step out of line again after a single night in a cell.

    Yeah but we all know that the law is selectively applied; ‘protestors’ are basically allowed to break laws as long as they don’t get violent. They will often get arrested for violence, but pretty much get a pass on non-violent infractions like trespass.

  184. Aristogeiton

    .
    #1324991, posted on May 29, 2014 at 8:06 pm
    Is Joe Goodacre’s ISP address from Sussex St?

    His views are perplexing. Once he agreed with me on Councils triple and quadruple dipping…now this.

    Joe likes to consider himself some Machiavellian se-er of Realpolitik. In addition to which he has neither principles nor logical facility. Also, he suffers from the mental disease of leftism.

  185. Tel

    We must use incidents like these to build a steady case in the media for banning Leftist speech. It must be a criminal offense to incite class envy and to stand in picket lines outside private establishments.

    There’s no reason to ban free speech, stalking is already against the law and actions speak louder than words.

  186. Aristogeiton

    Yobbo
    #1325007, posted on May 29, 2014 at 8:25 pm
    They could start with actually arresting them and charging them with trespass. The sheltered darlings would never dare step out of line again after a single night in a cell.

    Everyone has the right to protest in a free society. That said, affected businesses should be able to recover for damage to their business and custom as a result. Police have a legitimate right, in the interest of other users of public infrastructure, to maintain roads and thoroughfares and exclude protesters who are blocking them. Businesses should be able to sue for trespass. Individuals should be forcibly removed immediately where they are impeding lawful access to a business or private premises, and the proprietor or their agent agrees, and the business or titleholder should have the right to recover any consequent losses.

  187. They could start with actually arresting them and charging them with trespass. The sheltered darlings would never dare step out of line again after a single night in a cell.

    If they overpowered a police line and entered to “occupy” (tranlation: “trash”) a business I was in, they’d welcome arrest.

    Don’t know about a night in a cell though, coz lots of ‘em would be in the hospital’s prison wing.

  188. Tel

    TA is another David Cameron & look how his vote went at the EUSSR elections.

    The election where people vote how they feel because they know the EU Parliament does not mean anything.

  189. Tel

    Everyone has the right to protest in a free society.

    Got a permit for that?

  190. Aristogeiton

    Tel
    #1325037, posted on May 29, 2014 at 9:08 pm
    Everyone has the right to protest in a free society.

    Got a permit for that?

    Replace “has the right” with “should have the liberty”. Protest as demonstration is an overrated an ineffectual method of political expression.

  191. gnasher

    From James

    Abbot had a mandate to crush the the left & he has fkd it.

    ‘Too early to call. The government should govern for all and bring people with them.
    Crushing the left has to be done in subtle ways.’
    No James they have to be smashed..subtle doesn’t work at all…back to re education camp for you, Abbott is a total lefty wanker.

  192. mark

    Isn’t this a private college? If so, why aren’t they providing their own security?

  193. calli

    Isn’t this a private college? If so, why aren’t they providing their own security?

    Erm….public street?

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