How Australia looks before and after the entitlement bug hits

Before: The view from Cambodia h/t Jim Rose.

When the Salvation Army helped them and their new baby into a house in suburban Sydney, the Salvos were very embarrassed about the furniture they managed to find for them.

The Cambodian couple thought they were in paradise again. The house and furniture were better than anything they had seen in a middle-class home in their own country.

After a few years of hard work, the father saved enough to open an electrical retailing franchise store in the suburbs.

After: Pick fruit? In your dreams!

MORE than 150 work-fit Victorians have been on the Newstart unemployment allowance – designed as a safety net between jobs – for more than two decades.

And 3000 more men and women have received the benefit for more than 10 years.

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31 Responses to How Australia looks before and after the entitlement bug hits

  1. hammy

    My fourth First today!

  2. A Lurker

    My fourth First today!

    Simple things amuse simple minds.

  3. 20+ years on the dole… avoiding work for that long actually takes effort!

  4. MartinG

    My fourth First today!

    Grow the fuck up.

  5. Baldrick

    My fourth First today!

    Your response adds nothing to the title – How Australia looks before and after the entitlement bug hits.
    Why you’re not banned from this site amazes me … unless of course your comment was meant as a sign of your ‘entitlement’ mentality.

  6. MemoryVault

    20+ years on the dole… avoiding work for that long actually takes effort!

    Nah, they just bought a copy of my book “Dole Bludging – A Taxpayer’s Guide”, back in 1986.
    Nothing much has changed.

  7. danno

    Many Australians seem to want the government back that builds the welfare/moocher society

    Maybe, just maybe, Australians are happier that way

    I’m not, but reading the news and watching tv certainly it seems I’m out of step

  8. Baldrick

    A single person with no children is ‘entitled’ to $510.50 per fortnight and doesn’t include any of these additional allowances:
    Centrepay
    Clean Energy Advance
    Clean Energy Supplement
    Education Entry Payment
    Health Care Card
    Income Support Bonus
    JobSearch Facilities
    Jobs, Education and Training Child Care Fee Assistance
    Local Connections to Work
    Pensioner Concession Card
    Pensioner Education Supplement
    Pharmaceutical Allowance
    Remote Jobs and Communities Program
    Rent Assistance
    Rent Deduction Scheme
    Skills for Education and Employment
    Telephone Allowance

    and apparently we don’t have an ‘entitlement’ problem.

  9. MORE than 150 work-fit Victorians have been on the Newstart unemployment allowance – designed as a safety net between jobs – for more than two decades.

    And 3000 more men and women have received the benefit for more than 10 years.

    That’s pretty small numbers of people, though.
    3000 additional people on the dole in Vic translates to about 12,000 nationwide. That’s barely even a blip in the budget.

  10. Yet I’ve been union twenty years
    and I’m too old to rat.

  11. David

    My fourth First today!

    Well done Hammy. Your dedication to this site is truly amazing and soon you will start to feel a strange urge to think of your left wing buddies elsewhere as the blithering imbeciles they generally are. An epiphany my friend is what you will experience.

    I urge you not to take the sex and travel option but to stay with us and seek enlightenment.

    :-)

  12. Poor Old Rafe

    3000 additional people on the dole in Vic translates to about 12,000 nationwide. That’s barely even a blip in the budget.

    Yes not much in the big picture. But 12,000 wasted lives, think of the waste, not just the budget.

  13. entropy

    I wonder what view of self such people must have? I couldn’t think of anything more terrible. But it clearly must be lifestyle. Personally anything would be better than rocking up to Centrelink with so e bullshit about the jobs you went for the last fortnight.

    As for the 12,000 nationally, Auusie, have you paused to consider that anyone with a long term plan for living the leisure life would move to Qld (maybe only getting as far as Nimbin) rather than put up with a Victorian climate?

  14. Anne

    hammy
    #1323625, posted on May 28, 2014 at 8:00 pm
    My fourth First today!

    You have four firsts, I have zero!

    How about a little redistribution Mr Hammy.

  15. JC

    Stop fucking up every thread, Kero. Buzz off.

  16. hammy

    Stop fucking up every thread, Kero. Buzz off.

    Pot, kdettle, black. HWCBN

  17. Bill

    When I used to work for the Commonwealth Employment service (a precursor to Centrelink) I used to get some real doozies. One particular young bloke used to come in every fortnight, briefly look at the job screens and then sit down at my desk and say there was no work for him. Very fit guy and had a string of children from a string of women, none of which he looked after. I looked up his work history and saw that he had left almost every job after a few days. He basically didn’t want to work. So I made a habit of breaching him for 6 weeks at a time with no benefits. He would then rush around to Social Security and give them a hard luck story and if I didn’t get to them on the phone first, they would re-instate his benefits. We eventually had him blacklisted and basically told him to bugger off as he had an attitude problem and he was fit to work. At the time there was plenty of work going begging for lack of employees.

    He used to threaten me with all sorts of harm and then I would call the local boys in blue who would then take him down to the station and sort him out for a couple of days. A bit of a game for him, but used to drive the other CES employees nuts. I always got them to send him to me as I had the CCTV near my desk. He eventually got the message and buggered off somewhere else.

  18. gabrianga

    When are they entitled to long service leave?

  19. Thanks Rafe, you made a very nice contrast between the initiative of immigrants and the complacency of the locals.

  20. .

    Pot, kdettle, black. HWCBN

    Numbers?

  21. .

    Yes not much in the big picture. But 12,000 wasted lives, think of the waste, not just the budget.

    The entrenched, generational poverty is what sucks.

  22. rickw

    Never been on the dole or unemployment benefits.

    The solution to my one personal GFC was to paint houses for food.

  23. Bruce in WA

    My wife (chalkie): So, Nigel, what do you want to be when you grow up?
    Nigel (Year 3): Huh?
    Wife: What do you want to do? What sort of job do you want to have?
    Nigel: Not gonna have a job.
    Wife: Why not? What about your dad? What’s he do?
    Nigel: Nuthin’
    Wife: He doesn’t have a job?
    Nigel: Nah … him and mum get money from the guv’ment. I’m gonna do the same. Don’t need a job.

    True story (paraphrased, obviously). Turned out his older brothers had never worked either. Work was an alien concept to the entire family.

  24. Yobbo

    150 is truly a tiny number of people. There’s every chance they have other issues preventing them getting a job – like mental issues.

    It doesn’t matter how much you want to work if nobody else can stand to be around you – you won’t get hired.

  25. Habib

    My bludgerbrother in law has spent the last 30+ years keeping himself in unemployment, his only lack of success has been his inability to ensconce himself on the DSP, saving him having to be bothered by those bothersome Centrelink twerps. This has been hard work, had he applied half the effort in some commonwealth backwater he’d be retired for over five years; he’d have been right at home as well, monumentally lazy, endowed with a huge sense of entitlement and ability, and a chip on his shoulder the size of Clive Palmer’s smoko. Probably could’ve been a PSU delegate. Not a dill, just a perfect example of a spoilt child of the ’50s. I refuse to have the bastard in the house. The idea that’s he’s a rarity, or hardly representative of welfare recipients is as asinine as it’s delusional.

  26. MemoryVault

    The idea that’s he’s a rarity, or hardly representative of welfare recipients is as asinine as it’s delusional.

    Sorry Habib, but he ISN’T representative of the average welfare recipient, with the notable exception of Supporting Parent’s Benefit, which has been turned into a lifestyle choice.

    Most people on the dole are desperate for a job, and and most people on DSP wish they were healthy.

  27. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    Bill that useless article you speak of is a definate candidate for life in a Gulag,No Work No Eat,twenty or thirty years would sort the scum out ,stop the Bastard breeding too. What sort of kids would this Shit breed ?

  28. Over the years I have been aquainted with a few unfortunates who somehow could never find work, but managed quite a nice lifestyle based on the dole, supplemented by some petty crime on the side. As I frequently commented, within their hearing, if they put the same amount of effort into lawful work as they did into illegal activities and avoiding work, they would have been rich.

  29. CatAttack

    Memory Vault Yes I don’t doubt that most people on DSP wish they were healthy but I still think that there are a number of folk who are gaming the system. Young bloke across the road from my dad has a back injury and hasn’t worked for years and spends most of his days playing computer games. The thing is when he isn’t he is working on his cars including climbing underneath and leaning over them seemingly without difficulty. And he’s not the only person I’ve met like I this.

    So yes happy to support those who are are genuinely in need but still think they’re are folk who could be working when they’re not if I only for their own feeling of self worth.

  30. Bill

    Dr.Sir Fred Lenin,

    unfortunately in my time in the CES before I moved on to more interesting employment about which I will expound further, the type of person I explained in my previous message was all too true. When I was approached by The Department’s head office for a job in their property and facilities area, I managed to ensure that the CES managers right up the east coastal the time were removed of their luxury offices and also to ensure the leases were more commensurate with what should have been paid. Mind you I was one of the most hated department employees of the Department of Employment and Education and youth Affairs (at the time), purely because I managed to find a lot of money which had been siphoned off for these little property slush funds. I also has the remit to completely change the office entitlement of these coastal offices to more reflect the situation in the respective areas. I was one of the most despised people in the Department, but at least I saved the taxpayer quite some millions of $$ of unnecessary expenditure.

    Mind you when I left they all threw a party thinking they had got finally rid of me! I tried my best to ensure that the tax $$ were spent properly, but whether there was success – even for some time can only be seen in hindsight!

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