Science and Sensibility

Denis Jensen as a scientist MP who is pro nuclear and alive to the global warming scam is a bit of hero among many at Catallaxy.

He has delivered an address critical of the government’s cuts to science spending and he absence of a politician called the Minister for Science.

He says,

On one hand, we are setting up a huge medical research fund to massively increase medical research. How is this coherent policy when we have significant cuts to CSIRO, DSTO, ANSTO, the Australian Research Council and the Australian Institute of Marine Science? One of the advisers even suggested that a physicist working at CSIRO who lost their job could get one in medical research. I know some people think that physicist and physician sound similar but… There are a lot of questions with this policy.

Is this funding to medical research going to be general, or specifically targeted at cancer, Alzheimer’s and the like? How are we going to source those researchers? They don’t grow on trees, and the training required is long and arduous, and very long lead times are required. What is this saying to those who want to become mathematicians, physicists or chemists, hard sciences that are already in crisis?

And adds

I am not saying that the likes of CSIRO, ANSTO etc should not be subject to review and restructure. However, it is foolish to have such a policy disincentive, while at the same time massively incentivising medical research. This is not just about people’s careers, important as that is (and also for the taxpayers, who have a huge interest in the money that they have spent to train this cohort of scientists).

He has already gathered plaudits from the spenders of the world.

Clearly the medical research fund is a disgrace – and will never be stocked, nor should it be.

However, the scientific establishment has played a highly political game in Australia. In a recent piece in The Australian, I included the following words,

“The government’s own published estimate of aggregate climate change expenditure is that it falls from $5.75bn this year to $500m two years hence. This includes spending by the Clean Energy Finance Corp. But it excludes some spending, such as that of the CSIRO, which, when it saw its interest was in being active on climate matters, claimed that about 50 per cent of its budget was being spent in these directions. CSIRO can count itself lucky to have escaped with a mere $33m haircut, less than 5 per cent of its direct budget.”

Quite frankly CSIRO (and the Met) has been bolstering its research priorities and salting existing areas of research to chase the abundant funding on fashionable greenhouse issues. The scientific establishment, as a thousand posts on this blog attest, has prostituted itself in chasing funds and ensured that its leading lights are the true believers who are rewarded with promotions. Having Dennis Jensen providing them succour must be a bitter pill since they openly despise his views (or did so until September of last year).

Bob Carter made the point that “Science itself is far too important for the future of the nation for it to be left to politicians who make a virtue of not understanding it, to news editors whose prime interest is in circulation figures, or to environmentalists who purposely misrepresent it.” And yet the establishment has blatantly conspired with these miscreants. A single minister responsible might be an answer but for every Dennis Jensen there are loons like Barry Jones and tireless political propagandists like Kim Carr and Chris Bowen.

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22 Responses to Science and Sensibility

  1. johanna

    As mentioned on another thread here, CSIRO are responding by selling one of their agricultural research sites.

    So, less and less resources directed at potentially productive research, while handsomely paid management and climate scaremongers are untouched.

  2. Tel

    One of the advisers even suggested that a physicist working at CSIRO who lost their job could get one in medical research. I know some people think that physicist and physician sound similar but… There are a lot of questions with this policy.

    Government is picking a winner, and you sir ain’t it.

  3. cohenite

    So, less and less resources directed at potentially productive research, while handsomely paid management and climate scaremongers are untouched.

    Absolutely correct; this increasingly witless government doesn’t seem to understand that AGW is propelled by ego and ideology as well as money. The zealots at CSIRO and the BOM for that matter will simply spend less on other areas to preserve their egos and ideology.

  4. JohnA

    Clearly the medical research fund is a disgrace – and will never be stocked, nor should it be.

    Hmm, could this be a pawn gambit to give away in the Double Dissolution Chess Master-Class?

    And could the PPLS be a (white) knight sacrifice in extremis, should the end game not go quite to plan?

  5. Talleyrand

    I shared an office with Denis Jensen back in the day when I trained as a Physicist. He was hard working South African emigre, and in humor occasionally fractious. The course work back then was very demanding, our 8 hour exams being just one example of the pressure, so I cut him some slack.

    I would have preferred that Dr Jensen tried to keep his criticism inside the tent, as should other members of the parliamentary party, and stop pissing on his own. By pushing this into the public arena, all that has happened is he will become the talking point for the day in the mainstream press, until the find another rock to hurl at Abbott. After which Denis you will be left to rot on the backbench.

    It is likely Dr Jensen buried his career as a future Science Minister, as Abbott cannot be seen to reward disloyalty and disruption no matter how good the argument. Otherwise everyone will try it on.

    The Medical Research fund offering is so utterly amateur, even the average punter knows that such a fund’s money is fungible, and is in no way truly linked to funding research costs.

    FFS Are Abbott, Hockey and Credlin really that incompetent that they thought this Medicare levy funding transfer to Medical Research Fund would fly? Keep it boys, you empower your enemies and damage your allies. Credlin and Wife must go, as a sacrificial offering to get the government on track. Make the PM&C duumvirate (emphasis on duum) an Ambassador to the Holy See, or France , and get them out of here

  6. H B Bear

    A single minister responsible might be an answer but for every Dennis Jensen there are loons like Barry Jones and tireless political propagandists like Kim Carr and Chris Bowen.

    The Spaghetti & Meatballs Man, Kim Il Carr and Boy Wonder. The ALP talent puddle writ large.

  7. john constantine

    i actually think that the future of agricultural research is better conducted on privately owned acreage, in partnerships with interested and organised groups.

    the 100 year long demonstration of continuous wheat on wheat on wheat trial at longerenong is the exception that proves the rule [and it is only one plot].

    the walpeup research center in the victorian mallee only proved that the govvie blokes got the pick of the mallees best land for advertising purposes.

  8. One (more) of the detrimental outcomes of the renewables mania is that many scientists have trained in fields that are completely spurious to forward requirements. There’s going to be a significant number of green eggs sitting out in the street as cutbacks to those areas of focus occur.

    Some quiet but unequivocal directives to the grants committee’s and CSIRO that no more green egg funding is to occur, even in side fields — that ‘sustainable’ and words of that ilk are grounds for dismissal of a grant application — would go along way to improving the outcomes of our scientists, once the uncomfortable change of direction was passed.

    As to where those scientists would come from? Well, you defund green eggs and you can attract a lot of those who have been out in the cold on an international level for some time now.

  9. cohenite

    Unless Dr Jensen agitates to get rid of the filth mafia in the CSIRO and BOM he is just blowing smoke.

  10. daggers

    Apart from the astuteness of the content, this post has a wonderful heading.

  11. john of dandenong

    has the world always been so dysfunctional as now or is it the internet enables instant and individual comment? cheers – jb

  12. incoherent rambler

    I like what you write.

  13. Robert O.

    I recall that former PM Rudd saying that mankind faced its one of its greatest challenges in relation to global warming and took a flock of advisors to Copenhagen at enormous expense to discuss ways of solving the perceived challenge. As there hasn’t been any global warming for a while, 16-17 years or so, perhaps some of these scientific advisors could turn their hand to medical research. Perhaps I am too facetious as medical research mandates an open mind as well as good scholarship, something that seems to be lacking in the field of climate science advisory.

  14. Crossie

    Absolutely correct; this increasingly witless government doesn’t seem to understand that AGW is propelled by ego and ideology as well as money. The zealots at CSIRO and the BOM for that matter will simply spend less on other areas to preserve their egos and ideology.

    Making it easier to eliminate the whole department or agency. I just can’t take seriously anybody who pushes the global warming absurdity and I don’t see why taxes should be wasted on them.

  15. Crossie

    It is likely Dr Jensen buried his career as a future Science Minister, as Abbott cannot be seen to reward disloyalty and disruption no matter how good the argument. Otherwise everyone will try it on.

    It’s fascinating how Liberals feel free to rubbish their party and leadership yet Labor MPs vote as one and keep their mouths shut.

  16. sabrina

    Speaking out is not rubbishing the leadership, as long as they don’t fight like the Labour politicians did last time. We do not want Libs (or any other politicians) behaving as a flock of sheep to get into ministry. That might happen in Cuba or North Korea.

  17. Indigo

    Jensen is a serial offender in attacking his own party. He should confine his comments to caucus or stand as an independent.

  18. jupes

    I can understand why Abbott chose not to include Jensen in his ministry. His discipline leaves a lot to be desired.

    On the other hand, I can also understand Jensen’s frustration. Here is a man of apparent competence who has joined the Liberal Party to make a difference. However his expertise is ignored and he has to sit back and watch the Libs appoint warmists to cabinet posts and defund science.

    He appears as disappointed with the government as I am.

  19. I would opine that climate change research is too deeply embedded everywhere for aggregate expenditure to fall from $5.75bn this year to $500m two years hence.
    But – a worthy aim and I hope I am wrong.
    Re Dr Denis Jensen I wonder if he has already tried a quieter approach and it failed so now he speaks out at times.
    There are opportunities to crit the climate establishment that go begging.
    Why are we not seeing the BoM questioned in Senate hearings?

  20. Crossie

    On the other hand, I can also understand Jensen’s frustration. Here is a man of apparent competence who has joined the Liberal Party to make a difference. However his expertise is ignored and he has to sit back and watch the Libs appoint warmists to cabinet posts and defund science.

    Some people are just not suited to political life and besides, as a politician he can easily be dismissed as a partisan even when he is not. He might have been more useful in a professional position.

  21. Andrew

    Dr Jensen didn’t even have the support of his own FEC as he actually lost his preselection for Tangney twice but it was only Howard’s intervention that got him over the line.

  22. Oh come on

    Jensen’s a twit. He’s my local member. I’ve seen him in action, and I cross the street if I see him heading in my direction.

    Many Cats will remember his very public dummy-spit when Abbott didn’t create a discrete Science ministry. He’s got form for this kind of bullshit. He acts like a newly-elected Senator Barnaby Joyce holding the balance of power in the chamber, but he’s just another backbench nobody who will remain as such.

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