Malcolm and friends

Malcolm and friends

Not a Liberal voter in sight. Mind you, this is what he has to say about Liberal supporters:

And I just have to say to Mr Bolt, he proclaims loudly that he’s a friend of the Government – well with friends like Bolt, we don’t need any enemies.

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181 Responses to Malcolm and friends

  1. Aristogeiton

    And again:

    To paraphrase Bernard Lewis, they have shown themselves to be harmless to their enemies but treacherous to their friends

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2014/06/coalition-cowards/

  2. Bugme

    Maybe Turnbull should get with the job he is employed to do, fixing the problems in communications portfolio , selling the governments policy and budget, obviously has too much time on his hands

  3. john of dandenong

    Aristogeiton – dead right. Across the world these brainless entitled twits stand for nothing, except themselves, and have screwed everything they have touched.

  4. Mayan

    There is always the chance he might start his own party.

  5. .

    Sorry if I live under a rock but I only recognise Xenophon.

  6. Nic

    A flustercluck if ever I saw one

  7. calli

    The other two are Melissa Park (ALP) and…drumroll…Mark Scott (ABC).

  8. Infidel Tiger

    Friends of the ABC?

    What sort of deadbeat friend makes you pay for their friendship?

  9. calli

    Cabinet minister Malcolm Turnbull has hit out at conservative columnist Andrew Bolt, describing his latest commentary as “crazy”, “unhinged” and bordering on the “demented”.

    So there must be an element of truth to it.

  10. rickw

    With conservatives like Malcom, who needs socialists?

  11. Bruce K

    Is it just me or does anyone else see the resemblance between Mark Scott and Warden Norton from Shawshank Redemption ?

  12. Stemple

    Behold your future leader

  13. Andrew

    Malcolm should be focusing on selling the budget rather than his self-indulgent rants about the Labor’s NBN that simply pump up his own tires and nobody elses.

  14. Cynicmonster

    What chance of a SA-style defection?

    Perhaps Bill Shorten should watch his back.

  15. Rabz

    There is always the chance he might start his own party.

    Yes – we already have a name for it.

    The Turnbull United Republican Democrats Party.

  16. Senile Old Guy

    So there must be an element of truth to it.

    Exactly, Calli, exactly.

    Remember, the denials are always loudest and most fervent in the lead up to a challenge. That said, I don’t think a challenge is likely to be soon.

  17. Senile Old Guy

    The Turnbull United Republican Democrats Party.

    +1

  18. egg_

    The Turnbull United Republican Democrats Party.

    With Abbott at the lead, so gutless he vowed not to touch the ABC, no?

  19. Percy

    I call the leader of the opposition

    Thankyou Madame Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Communications. In light of todays reports on the Minister’s assurances (and I use that term loosely Madame Speaker) that the Minister is not after the Prime Minister’s job, can the Minister confirm that he is not, in fact, out for my job?

  20. Vicki

    The trouble with Malcolm is that he is his greatest fan.

  21. Rabz

    Apart from Hockey and Abbott, Squire Turnbull of Wentworth epitomises everything that absolutely sucks arse about this current government.

    Instead of giving the ALPBC a blast and severely censuring or sacking Scott – he indulges in absurd posturing such as this.

    Listen, you puffed up, preening, pretentious, pompous egomaniac – I didn’t vote for the fucking Liberals for you to behave in this utterly infuriating manner.

    The ALPBC is an absolute fucking disgrace and the Government should be treating it with the contempt it bloody well deserves – and at this point, I’ll cue the Mantra™.

    Shut. It. Down.

    Fire. Them. All.

  22. C.L.

    Bolt says (correctly) that the attack on him is itself part of the agenda stunt.

  23. Tracey

    And hasn’t the Member for Goldman Sachs timed it beautifully to hit the fan while Abbott is out of the country?

  24. I am the Walrus, Koo Koo K'Choo

    Seriously, what did you expect??

    He’s just another big government socialist in a government mainly comprising big government socialists.

  25. struth

    The shit starts at the top. Abbott making this “career” type politician devoid of any ideological conviction , a limelight seeking wanker, the minister in charge of the information process and
    the enemy’s defender, is priceless……………a ship of gutless and self interested fools and traitors. I know I sound over the top but I see it no other way. What a tragedy. God I want to be wrong.

  26. Talleyrand

    How’s Godwin Grech goin Mal?
    Please fuck off to the Greens Labor alliance where you belong. Oh, and take Sharman Stone with you.

  27. Cheryl

    Is Abbott out of the country? I thought he was leaving on Thursday.

  28. Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    Is that a photo of the Executiveof the National Green Laboral Party .if so where are comrades -Abbott,Hockey,Shortass And pullberserk ? Lets form a conservative Party called The Australian Lndependence Party,AIP .or Ape ,(sorry goodes and the bromberg/merkel freedom destruction comrades.
    Base the party on immigrationnd the destruction of outdated socialism and internationalism.

  29. johno

    The members of the Victorian Liberal Party voted to sell the Left’s ABC at it’s State Council meeting last year.

    What did they get! Their Minister in charge if the Left’s ABC sucking up to it big time. What a disgrace.

  30. MT Isa Miner

    Dr.Sir Fred Lenin

    #1329580, posted on June 2, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    Is that a photo of the Executiveof the National Green Laboral Party .if so where are comrades -Abbott,Hockey,Shortass And pullberserk ? Lets form a conservative Party called The Australian Lndependence Party,AIP .or Ape ,(sorry goodes and the bromberg/merkel freedom destruction comrades.
    Base the party on immigrationnd the destruction of outdated socialism and internationalism.

    Where’s the membership form, Fred. I especially like platform 2 & 3.

  31. Tracey

    Oops, yes, you’re right Cheryl. I jumped the gun. No doubt Lucy will offer up something on QandA though that will bubble away while he’s out the country and unlike his two predecessors he will resist the urge to comment on domestic affairs while he’s overseas.

  32. Tracey

    two most recent predecessors, damnit.

  33. candy

    The rant fits a pattern, similar to Julia Gillard’s. Meet people behind the scenes, get the numbers, deny any leadership ambitions (something about playing fullback or whatever). Wait till the PM is out of the country for more meetings. And so on.

  34. H B Bear

    Lord Turnbull of Wentworth’s ego is so big he doesn’t realise he is being played by the ALPBC.

    Having failed as Leader of the Opposition, never even laying a glove on Rudd, Lord Turnbull is going to start the white-anting.

  35. Joe Goodacre

    Who wants to pass around the hat for bets on when Turnbull will tip his hat for the leadership.

  36. johninoxley

    Can’t tell the difference between morebull and crudd. One as uselesss as the other.

  37. egg_

    And hasn’t the Member for Goldman Sachs timed it beautifully to hit the fan while Abbott is out of the country?

    Yup, thought the same – BUT is Abbott complicit?
    The LibLabs have to get their primary vote up somehow.

  38. egg_

    Who wants to pass around the hat for bets on when Turnbull will tip his hat for the leadership.

    Ummm… been saying so for two weeks.

  39. Token

    Who wants to pass around the hat for bets on when Turnbull will tip his hat for the leadership.

    Anyone who saw the campaign to undermine Nelson would be familiar with Lord Wentworth in his march to the leadership mode.

  40. egg_

    The shit starts at the top. Abbott making this “career” type politician devoid of any ideological conviction , a limelight seeking wanker, the minister in charge of the information process and
    the enemy’s defender, is priceless……………a ship of gutless and self interested fools and traitors. I know I sound over the top but I see it no other way. What a tragedy. God I want to be wrong.

    On the money IMHO.

  41. sabrina

    To educate, entertain, and inform – this thread and about Bolt is none of these.
    When is your next thread about economics, Professor? Those are the most educational, informative and at most times entertaining. Forget about Bolt here, leave Bolt to Bolt and Herand Sun.

  42. Ant

    It’s stating the obvious, but only to some, Turnbull is another Mitt Romney.

    As Mitt was in the US, Turnbull is the chattering and media classes’ little darling by far – so cerebral, so progressive, so charming, so Bolshie – but come election day they would rather have root canal work on half a dozen molars than put a little ’1′ next to the Lib or NP candidate on the ballot.

    His swallowing of the Global Warming manure, and then pretending that it tastes yummy, really is all one needs to know.

    And like Mitt, Turnbull would end up being one big dumbarse loser.

  43. EB

    I wonder when anyone will ever realise this is more about Bolt, his ego, his quest for attention and his desire to exercise some power.

    Turnbull needs a punch in the face for even acknowledging him.

  44. Infidel Tiger

    It’s stating the obvious, but only to some, Turnbull is another Mitt Romney.

    Except that Romney promised to privatise PBS. Malcolm wants to increase the ABC’s drag on our wallets and lives.

  45. Nic

    Yep, it’s all Bolt’s fault. Nothing to see here folks, move along . /sarc

  46. egg_

    Ant
    #1329636, posted on June 2, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Was thinking of the LibLabs doing a R-G-R (or, more likely, an Abbott-Turnbull-Morro, per MartinG).
    Turnbull MAY attract more votes than Abbott currently is.

  47. The Hunted Mind

    Was thinking of the LibLabs doing a R-G-R (or, more likely, an Abbott-Turnbull-Morro, per MartinG).

    Is even Turnbull that dumb? The public hated Gillard taking out a prime minister in his first term. That was pretty much the start of her downfall.

  48. Cold-Hands

    Lord Wentworth has been thoroughly captured by his inner-city Greenoid electorate. Howard’s worst mistake ever was to talk Turnbull out of resigning from politics.

  49. incoherent rambler

    The thing that must really grate on Malcom is that even he could have one against Gillard/Rudd.
    But then again, Mickey Mouse, Elmer Fudd, Idi Amin and a cavalcade of others would have also done pretty well.
    The synaptically challenged LNP need to realize that the ALP lost the last election, the LNP did not win it. Emulating the ALP will emulate the same outcome.

  50. Rob MW

    When Abbott finally sends someone to castrate Turnbull the problem will emerge that they can’t because undoubtedly they will find that there is no end to the prick.

  51. incoherent rambler

    one -> won

  52. egg_

    Is even Turnbull that dumb?

    Just a hunch that it’s all playing out so smoothly that it’s being orchestrated from the top – virtually a handover.

  53. candy

    Just a hunch that it’s all playing out so smoothly that it’s being orchestrated from the top – virtually a handover.

    That sounds a bit scrambled to me, egg_

  54. Token

    …that even he could have won against Gillard/Rudd.

    …but the fact is, as he stands for nothing, he would not have won as he would have surrendered over Nopenhagen, giving Krudd the material to win big in 2010.

  55. twostix

    Does anybody outside of this place remember that Malcolm Turnbull was once leader of the Liberal party and the entire country found him to be a joke?

    What is this madness?

  56. H B Bear

    The thing that must really grate on Malcom is that even he could have [won] against Gillard/Rudd.

    Lord Turnbull was going to hand KRudd the ETS as the solution to his “greatest moral challenge of all time” because he is a wet socialist at heart. No Abbott = no Gillard.

    We would actually be under the 3rd term of a KRudd government and without Gillard, KRudd would still be Australia’s worst PM.

  57. egg_

    That sounds a bit scrambled to me, egg_

    Perhaps, but you are quite partisan.
    Again, the results will reveal, opinion is worth nought.

  58. struth

    Malcom doesn’t even understand why Abbott is getting a beating. The left are screaming as they get threatened to get pulled off the taxpayer’s teet and yet we are screaming because this government is too left wing still. You are a very big part of the problem Malcom, not the cure and the conservative voters know it. For god sake get over with your back slapping insulated mates over on tbe left. That is the best thing you can do for conservatives.

  59. 'S

    The Lady – sorry, Lord – doth protest too much.
    For someone so beloved by the love media he’s done sweet FA to advance his parties interest.

  60. twostix

    The thing that must really grate on Malcom is that even he could have one against Gillard/Rudd.

    LOL

    He couldn’t even lay a glove on Kevin Rudd – the man Abbott immediately caused to have a mental breakdown.

    Turnbull is so shit he couldn’t even embarrass a PM who had to be taken on walks in the rose garden to contain his insanity. And not only couldn’t he embarrass him, he was embarrassed by him in the most absurd piece of Australian politics…ever.

    Or what about Conroy? A functional retard and what did Turnbull achieve there?

    The man is the most over-rated blowhard in the nation which was demonstrated by the fact that when he led the Liberal party everybody in the country hated him and Labor walked all over him. And he’s only kept live because he’s the lefts pet spoiler but make no mistake if the Liberals put him in as leader they’ll not win an election again until he’s gone.

  61. James

    I thought I saw Craig Laundy was also at the Friends of the ABC thingy…

  62. Token

    Malcom doesn’t even understand why Abbott is getting a beating.

    Turnbull knows. Go back and read the first 40 or so media watch dog blog postings.

    He was smashed by the left when he was leader for sensible policies as the left always hate the leader of the Coalition. The ABC was as savage as it is today, taking everything he did out of context.

    It is because of Labor-Lite surrender monkeys like Turnbull that politics and discourse is so dire, as they are so willing to betray everything and everyone in their lust for power.

  63. Token

    I thought I saw Craig Laundy was also at the Friends of the ABC thingy…

    Yes, the surrender monkey, who was born to a manor in a way few other Liberals were, was there.

  64. egg_

    twostix
    #1329699, posted on June 2, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Politics is ‘showbiz for ugly people’.
    How long since you last voted Labor?

  65. incoherent rambler

    Imagine a party that is bleeding votes from the right installing someone from the left as their leader.
    Makes perfect sense.

  66. twostix

    How long since you last voted Labor?

    Seven years, why?

  67. egg_

    Seven years, why?

    ‘Cause I think you’ll find the two sides are not that different and it’s virtually all showbiz.

  68. struth

    You’re right token……………..and that makes it even more absurd. He will never be successful on this side of politics………but I think he is just having fun, enjoying the life…. stirring shit, without the responsibility. All tv shows and in his own eyes loved by all. What a twat.

  69. twostix

    Imagine a party that is bleeding votes from the right installing someone from the left as their leader.

    The deranged Liberal left think that in a country and an age where $80,000 a year has you coming into the sights of class envy machine gunners that people in the marginals will line up to vote for the silver-spoon-in-the-mouth, Liberal bankster, out of touch toff stereotype come to life.

    On the other hand the rest of us have cold-hard reality to look upon. When Turnbull “led” the Liberals into agreeing with everything that the mentally unstable Kevin Rudd did and said, he was an absolute disaster in the polls.

    On the other hand after Abbott had Turnbull fired he then effortlessly demolished Rudd politically in a couple of months by simply calling the ETS a tax and mentally ruined him by simply turning up at a hospital. These tactics were beyond Turnbull – the most useless Liberal politician since ever. Then demoted to appease the liberal Left, and placed in opposition to a functional retard who cries about milk…even there he was regularly outclassed.

    Abbott should fire him and dare the Liberal left to vote for Bill Shorten and his merry band of goons.

  70. custard

    I posted this on the ABC news page earlier using my other handle

    Turnbull showed in his door stop today just why he is no longer the leader of the parliamentary Liberal party and the PM. He is unable to stay calm when under scrutiny from the media unlike Abbott.
    Bolt is wrong in his assertion that Turnbull is somehow wanting to posture himself for the top job.
    Bolt has actually fallen for the false narrative of the left which can be updated hourly just by watching and listening to the national broadcaster.

  71. twostix

    ‘Cause I think you’ll find the two sides are not that different and it’s virtually all showbiz.

    Agree.

    But does the electorate want it that way?

  72. egg_

    IMHO Deep Green-Left Aunty is the greater enemy than the ALP, but Mal’s kidding himself if he thinks he can control IT.

  73. C.L.

    Actually, it’s pretty obvious that photo was cropped to make Friends of The ABC appear less hostile to women – as per Twostix’s original wide shot posted on the Open:

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/p526x296/10301544_731800960174675_2110228113108591007_n.jpg

  74. Tom

    that photo was cropped to make Friends of The ABC appear less hostile to women – as per Twostix’s original wide shot posted on the Open:

    Wow! Misogyneeeeee!

  75. incoherent rambler

    Abbott should fire him and dare the Liberal left to vote for Bill Shorten and his merry band of goons.

    +10 for the LNP 2PP.

  76. twostix

    How uncomfortable is her body language?

  77. Aristogeiton

    twostix
    #1329740, posted on June 2, 2014 at 3:05 pm
    How uncomfortable is her body language?

    Trout-shouldered.

  78. custard

    The member for Fremantle wants to roll back border protection arrangements as well.

  79. Jannie

    Rabz you are on fire today. Turnbull United Repulican Democrat Party, indeed.

  80. James

    When Turnbull “led” the Liberals into agreeing with everything that the mentally unstable Kevin Rudd did and said, he was an absolute disaster in the polls.

    The Liberals absolute disaster in the polls started when Turnbull joined the Liberals. John Howard listened to him in supporting an ETS and the $10 billion water plan.

  81. James

    Turnbull United Repulican Democrat Party

    The TURD Party?

  82. Aristogeiton

    James
    #1329755, posted on June 2, 2014 at 3:20 pm
    Turnbull United Repulican Democrat Party

    The TURD Party?

    You’ve correctly identified the joke.

  83. egg_

    The Liberals absolute disaster in the polls started when Turnbull joined the Liberals.

    Perhaps, Abbott’s virtually running on his platform with a 2PP of 45.0%.

  84. Ant

    twostix reminds me of how Mal did the last time he was leader.

    Utegate!

    I remember as the whole trainwreck was derailing thinking “please tell us that you have an actual electronic version of said email and not just a print copy of it.”

    But, no. Mal knew better; Ozemail smarty pants, and all that.

    It takes a special kind of stupid to be so comprehensively outsmarted by Kevin Rudd and his adolescent spin merchants.

  85. James

    Turnbull showed in his door stop today just why he is no longer the leader of the parliamentary Liberal party and the PM.

    No longer PM? Turnbull was never PM.

    He is unable to stay calm when under scrutiny from the media unlike Abbott.

    Of course. He is there to be liked. Humorous, personable, champion of fashionable causes. Watch him in QT doing stand up comedy. Just don’t make him roll up his sleave doing any real work with the NBN and ABC.

    For too long, people confuse being popular, saying things people want to hear, with actual performance, getting things done.

  86. Lysander

    Malcolm will always be loved by the AbC. Just like that other has-been Malcolm.

  87. outsider

    Too bad he did not take Rudd’s advice and resign, be gone for good:
    Here is a nice pic of Malcolm Utegate, he looks much more smarmy these days:

    Utegate

  88. manalive

    Anyone who still pushes the Global Warming aka Climate Change™ ‘mitigation’ (CO2 tax, ETS) crap is either a fool or a scoundrel.
    I don’t know where Turnbull stands now but four years ago he had this to say, it’s worth reading.
    The article rider: “This first appeared in former opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull’s blog this morning” comes up “Page Not Found”.

  89. Lysander

    Demented?

    Remember Latham said talk of rudd return was “crazy.”

    Canberra does crazy and demented very well (just look at its govt!!!)

  90. Fisky

    It’s stating the obvious, but only to some, Turnbull is another Mitt Romney.

    Are you kidding?? Mitt had the most hard-line immigration platform of all the candidates, and was running on substantial retrenchment/tax cuts. His global warming policy was identical to Abbott’s. I can’t think of a single mainline policy where Turnbull lines up with Mitt.

  91. Peter from SA

    gee there are some peculiar similarities between Malcom “forged email” Utegate and Martin “dodgy documents” Hamilton-Smith …

  92. Fisky

    Oh, and take Sharman Stone with you.

    That woman was nearly our immigration minister. Fuck we dodged a bullet there.

  93. Lysander

    Anyone who still pushes the Global Warming aka Climate Change™ ‘mitigation’ (CO2 tax, ETS) crap is either a fool or a banker.

  94. James

    Was thinking of the LibLabs doing a R-G-R (or, more likely, an Abbott-Turnbull-Morro,

    If Turnbull becomes PM, his very first act would be demote Scott Morrison to the back bench, or put him to some useless portfolio to stop him from speaking out. Bring back Sharman (no need for Pacific Solution) Stone, stop stopping the boats, re-install funding to the refugee bodies, amnesty and citizenship to the 50000 on protection visas.

    Morrison stands at absolutely no chance of leadership unless Abbott passes the baton directly to him at a time when the government is doing better.

  95. James

    Turnbull is another Mitt Romney

    Mitt Romney has been unable to lay a glove on Obama. Obama care was something evolved from Romney’s baby. And Romney never showed much difference in foreign policy.

  96. egg_

    Canberra does crazy and demented very well

    Yup, folk are confusing the Canberra bubble with the real world.

  97. stackja

    egg_
    #1329798, posted on June 2, 2014 at 4:01 pm

    Canberra does crazy and demented very well

    Yup, folk are confusing the Canberra bubble with the real world.

    MSM are missing RGR. So are inventing ‘news’.

  98. egg_

    Turnbull put Pyne into shadow cabinet for the first time as shadow Edumacation Minister

    http://www.governmentnews.com.au/2008/09/turnbull-reshuffles-shadow-cabinet/

  99. Mr Skeletor

    Utegate!

    I remember as the whole trainwreck was derailing thinking “please tell us that you have an actual electronic version of said email and not just a print copy of it.”

    That didn’t matter shit. Even if Malcom had all the evidence in the world, and had Rudd dead to rights, no one would have cared and Rudd’s popularity wouldn’t have been touched.

    Because at the end of the day, utegate, Malcoms masterstroke was about RUDD GETTING A SECONDHAND UTE.
    Yeah, the electorate really fucking cared that millionare Rudd may have scored a secondhand ute off a mate for free. Fuck me what a waste of time that useless tosser is.

  100. Fisky

    And Romney never showed much difference in foreign policy.

    The differences over Russia and China were profound

  101. James

    Abbott’s virtually running on his platform with a 2PP of 45.0%

    Abbott has a huge lead in the polls all the way to the 2013 election, but as soon as the election was called, the polls turned to 50/50.

    SA Opposition also has a commanding lead in the polls all the way to the last election, but still unable to form government. Looking back the SA Liberals, with a former leader as traitor, so many years of petty infighting, maybe they were not meant to win after all.

    I’d say, take a long view, do what is needed and don’t get spooked by the polls, day to day headlines and commentaries.

    The biggest mistakes by RGR were that they so wanted to be liked, they run their government by news headlines, twitter and polls, in the end achieved nothing.

  102. James

    running on substantial retrenchment/tax cuts

    Tax cuts do no appeal to people who pays no tax…

  103. stackja

    Their ABC reports: Prime Minister Tony Abbott has been dragged into the dispute between Cabinet minister Malcolm Turnbull and conservative columnist Andrew Bolt, with the matter raised in Question Time.

    MSM still helping ALP.

  104. James

    The differences over Russia and China were profound

    He never raised issue with the Benghazi attack

  105. egg_

    Abbott has a huge lead in the polls all the way to the 2013 election, but as soon as the election was called, the polls turned to 50/50.

    Starting from 45% will be disastrous then – and the try-to-please-all-but-fail-dismally budget is what’s done them in.
    They have to lurch to the Right or be destroyed at the polls.
    At least, if Turnbull were at the helm, the voters would know they were getting Labor-lite with no pretensions otherwise.

  106. .

    Mitt Romney has been unable to lay a glove on Obama.

    ???

    This is nonsense. Romney clearly won the debates. This lead to him being ahead a week of the election. He was poised to win and betting markets reflected this – then Hurricane Sandy came and the polls changed – the final result was in line with the final polling.

  107. Token

    Canberra does crazy and demented very well

    He may have been abusive, but Turnbull did not state he will not make a challenge

  108. Ant

    Fisky

    I actually meant that Turnbull’s the darling now because he’s regarded as a direct opponent to Abbott. Come election time, the usual media yabberers will have their noses planted up Shorten’s behind and conjuring up images of Turnbull having a dog strapped to the roof of his Bentley – or some such stupidity.

    Having said that, I’m pretty comfortable with the idea that ‘Campaign Mitt’ and ‘President Mitt’ would have been complete strangers to each other.

    He wanted to repeal “Romneyca…”, oops, I meant “Obamacare, remember?

    And just look at some of his recent shennanigans – backing Jeb/Christie, backing amnesty, pouring a fortune into Utah GOP coffers lining up to take out Mike Lee come primary time.

    And what about some of the confessional stuff that’s out now about his campaign performance against Obama?

    Yep. I pretty much wouldn’t count on anything transformative coming out of a guy such as this.

    More like – much more of the same.

    Just like Turnbull.

  109. Token
    And Romney never showed much difference in foreign policy.

    The differences over Russia and China were profound

    LOL, remember the classic sarc from Obama to Romney…

    In an exchange about al-Qaida during the debate, Obama attacked Romney for calling Russia “without question, our No. 1 geopolitical foe” earlier this year.

    “Gov. Romney, I’m glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida,” Obama said. “You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years. But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policy of the 1950s, and the economic policies of the 1920s.”

    The Sun King is such a visionary genius (Wile E Coyote style).

  110. Token

    He never raised issue with the Benghazi attack

    James, where are you going here? That Romney never raised Benghazi, or the links between Benghazi & Syria (i.e. Russia)?

  111. James

    try-to-please-all-but-fail-dismally budget

    I don’t see where is the “please all”.

    There is no money to buy off any interest group. Therefore you see everyone with their hip pockets affected criticizing the budget, creating negative headlines.

  112. MT Isa Miner

    Token

    #1329824, posted on June 2, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    He never raised issue with the Benghazi attack

    James, where are you going here? That Romney never raised Benghazi, or the links between Benghazi & Syria (i.e. Russia)?

    Yeah, because Romney did bring up Bengazi in the debates and was suckerpunched by the fat socialist bitch who pretended she was a moderator. He was too much of a nice guy to punch her right back.

    Don’t rip the scab off that wound James. Watching that knifing turned me from politically reasonable, to flying the black flag. And I’m far too old to be a pimply anarchist either.

  113. Gab

    heir ABC reports: Prime Minister Tony Abbott has been dragged into the dispute between Cabinet minister Malcolm Turnbull and conservative columnist Andrew Bolt, with the matter raised in Question Time.

    MSM still helping ALP.

    Turnbull’s overreaction to Bolt is now the story. Malcolm is yet again the story and that’s why he overreacted to Bolt.

  114. egg_

    There is no money to buy off any interest group. Therefore you see everyone with their hip pockets affected criticizing the budget, creating negative headlines.

    If there has been a constant meme here for weeks, it’s been make spending cuts, whatever else you do – find one quote of mine referring to (my) hip pocket nerve.

  115. .

    There is no money to buy off any interest group. Therefore you see everyone with their hip pockets affected criticizing the budget, creating negative headlines.

    WHAT?

    Have you completely lost the fucking plot?!

    What about the NBN? NDIS? Direct Action? RDAF funding (renamed from 2015). Foreign aid?

    This place is a fucking madhouse.

    Everyone ought to be lined up for some clonazepam and thorazine.

  116. James

    They have to lurch to the Right

    Stop the boats
    Strengthen military
    Build roads
    Privatize assets
    Restore Work for the Dole
    Rein in Welfare Spending
    Rein in Health Spending
    Deregulation in Tertiary Education
    Refuse to match the $80 billion fictional funding

    Looks quite Right to me.

  117. James

    NBN? NDIS? Direct Action? RDAF funding (renamed from 2015). Foreign aid

    They are election promises. If they break them, they would be criticized for breaking promises…

  118. egg_

    They have to lurch to the Right

    $20 billion slush fund.
    Spending more than Swan.
    BIG Government.

  119. .

    Gab
    #1329847, posted on June 2, 2014 at 5:00 pm
    You referred to something which was not part of the policy

    No.

    FFS you just bragged about 80 bn in fictional spending being cut.

  120. James

    Romney clearly won the debates

    Only the first of the three.

  121. Gab

    FFS you just bragged about 80 bn in fictional spending being cut.

    I did? Where? And why are you posting it here?

  122. .

    FFS

    James
    #1329859, posted on June 2, 2014 at 5:06 pm
    NBN? NDIS? Direct Action? RDAF funding (renamed from 2015). Foreign aid

    They are election promises. If they break them, they would be criticized for breaking promises…

    FFS “you” just bragged about 80 bn in fictional spending being cut.

  123. Gab

    Change you supplier, hon. :)

  124. .

    James
    #1329864, posted on June 2, 2014 at 5:08 pm
    Romney clearly won the debates

    Only the first of the three.

    His poll numbers went up each time there was a debate. How is this not a victory!?

  125. James

    Turnbull’s overreaction to Bolt is now the story. Malcolm is yet again the story and that’s why he overreacted to Bolt.

    This is what passes as news story. Bolt Said Turnbull Said Bolt Said Turnbull Said….

  126. .

    “Hon”, “hun”, “honey”…ah FFS this is the female version of ‘champ”, “buddy”, “pal” etc?

  127. James

    How is this not a victory!?

    Did not turn into enough votes to win.

  128. Gab

    Hon as in “my sweet”, “luv”, not quite “my darling”. But almost :)

  129. James

    you” just bragged about 80 bn in fictional spending being cut

    They promised to match the first 4 years, but not more, despite Labor and the unions taunting. So, this is considered keeping promises.

  130. .

    What? He didn’t win the debates because they alone didn’t win the election, they just put his polling up each time and before Hurricane Sandy, into a marginal win?

    Come on. You are being unreasonable.

  131. EB

    Bolt doesn’t have friends, he has people he can use until he tosses them away.

    Loves the power and loves knowing he can destabilize governments. Surprised no one made the link this is happening just as the Libs have given the clearest indication the promises they made to Bolt on the racial discrimination act are going in the bin.

    Bolt doesn’t care who is power, he’ll toy with them either way for his own ends. Even if he doesn’t have the power to influence them to do what he wants, he knows he still has to power to punish them for not listening.

    He’s not to be messed with.

  132. James

    $20 billion slush fund.

    Howard government set up the Future Fund. Is that bad?

  133. Viva

    Huzzah. The Cats take a break from bagging Poor Old Abe.

  134. .

    So by matching spending and building those projects with obvious special interest support and lobbying, they’re not favouring special interest groups?

    Come off it.

  135. .

    Loves the power and loves knowing he can destabilize governments.

    Sometimes these loved and loathed conservative pundits just follow trends. They do need advertisers. I’m not sure they are as powerful as you suggest.

  136. James

    matching spending and building those projects

    That’s more about stability and the practical reality of how much you can actually back out of.

  137. James

    Stop the boats
    Strengthen military
    Build roads
    Privatize assets
    Restore Work for the Dole
    Rein in Welfare Spending
    Rein in Health Spending
    Deregulation in Tertiary Education
    Refuse to match the $80 billion fictional funding

    Mostly true, except that they have not reined in welfare spending, they’ve increased it via the PPL and NDIS.
    But despite all that, any good they have done is negated by the fact that they keep breaking election promises. And they do so at will; in no case were they forced to break a promise by an unexpected change of circumstances. These were all entirely discretionary betrayals. 18c, increasing taxes, changing the pension. Those three have erased Abbott’s personal credibility.

  138. incoherent rambler

    James (macLiberal)

    #1329854, posted on June 2, 2014 at 5:04 pm
    They have to lurch to the Right
    Stop the boats
    Strengthen military
    Build roads
    Privatize assets
    Restore Work for the Dole
    Rein in Welfare Spending
    Rein in Health Spending
    Deregulation in Tertiary Education
    Refuse to match the $80 billion fictional funding

    Looks quite Right to me.

    And we can see why the libs are in trouble.
    Morrison’s efforts aside, the big ticket items are a fail:
    NBN, ABC, FREE SPEECH

    (and we have employed a few ALP cronies).

    James MacLiberal you cannot spin out of this mess.

  139. oh and they made cuts to the ABC. Yes, I know it’s a tiny cut. personally I don’t care and think the ABC could get trimmed quite a bit more. But Abbott said – looking right into the TV camera – “no cuts to the ABC”.
    Then he made a modest cut. It’s a cut. The day before the election he said ‘no cuts’.

    Regardless of whether you think the ABC should be cut, you have to understand that breaking promises in that way just destroys your personal credibility. How can he look into the camera next election and promise anything?

  140. James B

    Turnbull is absolute scum.

  141. incoherent rambler

    Dis I mention excise?

  142. MemoryVault

    Restore Work for the Dole

    Forget Work for the Dole.
    It doesn’t work, it costs money, and it destroys real jobs.
    Ditto for any “long term unemployed” subsidies, and “work experience” or “on the job training” schemes for young people, run by the government/bureaucracy.

  143. Forget Work for the Dole.
    It doesn’t work, it costs money, and it destroys real jobs.
    Ditto for any “long term unemployed” subsidies, and “work experience” or “on the job training” schemes for young people, run by the government/bureaucracy.

    Very true.
    The function of the dole is to provide welfare to those out of work. Stick to the core function. All the other stuff is scope creep, and as you say, starts to impact on normal, non-government businesses and activities. And is usually poorly implemented anyway.

  144. egg_

    I’d say, take a long view, do what is needed and don’t get spooked by the polls, day to day headlines and commentaries.

    As do I – yours is a formula for a bloodbath ‘mid 2016′ or whenever.

  145. .

    Correct MV. It is a total waste and it destroys real jobs, as make work programmes always do.

  146. candy

    Work for the dole is a popular policy.
    I am puzzled as to why anyone would think that, and on the job training, is a bad thing for young people?

    Surely you don’t want them to hang around doing nothing. Looking for work is done over the Net, you know.

  147. Work for the dole is a popular policy.
    I am puzzled as to why anyone would think that, and on the job training, is a bad thing for young people?

    because government run programs can compete with private businesses;
    Because people working for free compete with people working for pay;
    Beacuse the skills learned are usually of minimal value;
    Because you are putting bureaucrats in charge of employing people who are literally unemployable.

    a much better way to get young people into jobs is to lower the youth wage.

    Oh, but we deal with the “art of the possible,” don’t we…?

  148. .

    candy
    #1329953, posted on June 2, 2014 at 6:12 pm
    Work for the dole is a popular policy.
    I am puzzled as to why anyone would think that, and on the job training, is a bad thing for young people?

    Surely you don’t want them to hang around doing nothing. Looking for work is done over the Net, you know.

    Fucking job training? Are you bloody serious?

    You need a kick up the bum candy.

    Most people looking for work don’t need to be shown how to write a fucking resume. Teaching more people to do this will not create more jobs FFS.

  149. Surely you don’t want them to hang around doing nothing.

    It’s called being unemployed.
    It’s not the government’s job to entertain them.

  150. Andrew

    Bolt hitting back at Turncoat on the news tonight…excellent :-)

  151. The member for Fremantle wants to roll back border protection arrangements as well.

    Billionaire property magnate boyfriend needs some cheap labour?

  152. I can’t look at Malcolm Turnbull now without seeing him as a Banana in Pajamas.

  153. JC

    Turnbull is being a dick as the pic shows. There’s no way the party will have him as the leader.

    By the way, who is the gal in the pic as she’s not bad looking. Anyone know?

  154. Andrew

    By the way, who is the gal in the pic as she’s not bad looking. Anyone know?

    Melissa Parkes, MP for Fremantle. She is from the hard left of the ALP.

  155. A Lurker

    Turnbull’s overreaction to Bolt is now the story. Malcolm is yet again the story and that’s why he overreacted to Bolt.

    I like Bolta and admire his tenacity over exposing the Global Warming deceit, but I’m getting the distinct impression that both gentlemen seem to thrive on drama and enjoy being in the spotlight.

    God, I wish we had normal people as politicians and not the current bunch of narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths and media-tarts.

  156. .

    What left wing orgs did JC join as a young rooster to impress the hot, dumb lefty borads?

    He can’t escape his past from the Global Warming and Fair Pay Institute!

  157. candy

    a much better way to get young people into jobs is to lower the youth wage.

    That be a broken promise I think, lowering the minimum wage etc, Aussiepundit and I know how troubled you are by such! :-)

  158. MemoryVault

    Work for the dole is a popular policy.

    So is female genital mutilation, in some places.
    Doesn’t make it right, good, or useful.

    I am puzzled as to why anyone would think that, and on the job training, is a bad thing for young people?

    Perhaps if you actually read what I wrote, Candy. Here, I’ll give you a clue:
    “on the job training” schemes for young people, run by the government/bureaucracy.

    Surely you don’t want them to hang around doing nothing.

    This is based on the old chestnut that everybody on the dole is a bludger, especially amongst the young. Truth is, 80% + of unemployed people are desperate for a job, and go to extraordinary lengths looking for one – especially amongst the young.

  159. JC

    Melissa Parkes, MP for Fremantle. She is from the hard left of the ALP.

    Wow! Just ignore any crap she comes out with.

  160. egg_

    Bolt hitting back at Turncoat on the news tonight

    A mini series in the making?

  161. candy

    Such negativity, you show, MemoryVault. I’m almost saddened.

  162. .

    FFS candy, “da negadividy!”

    You could almost scrape this treacle up.

  163. Steve of Glasshouse

    Maybe the LNP is working up to voluntary voting. Let’s face it; they have levelled the field vis a vis disinterested voters

  164. candy

    You could almost scrape this treacle up.

    Dot, I’ve been looking at the LDP website again and it’s beautifully laid out, with a simple paragraph about each policy and very nice photos, and the colours are great. It’s really well done. Obviously LDP have a set platform, a coherent set of policies, perhaps making it easier for Mr Abbott to deal with, rather than those bozos PUP who are just chasing votes and all over the place.

    So please don’t be cross with me, Dot, promise?

  165. MemoryVault

    Such negativity, you show, MemoryVault. I’m almost saddened.

    Let’s see – YOU believe everybody on the dole is a such a lazy, useless bludger that the grubbermint has to dream up “busy work” schemes to keep them off the streets, and I believe most people on the dole are genuine people looking for a job.

    And I’m the negative one?
    Sheesh.

  166. Greg James

    And wasn’t Their ABC absolutely crowing about Malcolm’s little diatribe against Bolt today. It was almost as if it was on a repeated 15 minute cycle on 774.

  167. We would actually be under the 3rd term of a KRudd government and without Gillard, KRudd would still be Australia’s worst PM.

    A race to the bottom indeed.

  168. MSM are missing RGR. So are inventing ‘news’.

    And why wouldn’t they? For six golden years all they had to do was wake up each morning. Bahahaha!

  169. Leo G

    “I just have to say to Mr Bolt. He proclaims loudly that he is a friend of the government. Well with friends like Bolt, we don’t need any enemies.”

    But Malcolm Turnbull didn’t just say that to Mr Bolt, did he?
    Malcolm clearly intended the message for all who listened and who might proclaim they are a friend of the government. Malcolm’s message is that if you are such a person then you are not who he needs.

  170. .

    candy your ingratiation is noted but what I really want is for you to take notice of the uselessness of make work schemes.

    You’ve got to listen to some people who have been on work for the dole. The ones I know have told me it is useless.

  171. If there has been a constant meme here for weeks, it’s been make spending cuts, whatever else you do – find one quote of mine referring to (my) hip pocket nerve.

    Rather than miss any of my 300 beers each week, my kids will be forced to go without porridge each morning before skool, and it’s all Abbott666′s fault.

    Except the kids wouldn’t touch porridge with a toilet brush, and they’d just rip into any junk food they could find instead anyway.

  172. Melissa Parkes, MP for Fremantle. She is from the hard left of the ALP.

    So, she’s a Labor centrist? She could could just as easily be from the Greens extreme far right.

  173. JC

    @mscott When 1/2 the country thinks ur a leftwing dick, u go out of ur way to prove it getting pic with Turnbull. http://tinyurl.com/k73qugc

  174. This is based on the old chestnut that everybody on the dole is a bludger, especially amongst the young.

    Australia did have a problem with rorting of the dole, a bad problem actually, but that hasn’t been the case for over two decades. Bashing ‘dole bludgers’ is reliving the problems of yesteryear.

  175. MemoryVault

    You’ve got to listen to some people who have been on work for the dole. The ones I know have told me it is useless.

    Good idea, Dot.
    For the last 35 years I’ve acted as advocate at SSAT and AAT hearings on a voluntary basis.
    Horror stories of lives, hopes and aspirations crushed by ill-conceived work for the dole schemes and their various cousins and offshoots abound. In terms of uselessness and human misery generated such schemes rate second only to the ever-changing (for political expediency) quagmire otherwise known as Disability Pensions.

    If Candy is not interested in listening to those afflicted by these “busy work” schemes, she may like to consider the opinion of one who worked in the DSS and administered these schemes.

    Like I did for seven years. That was 30 nearly years ago and I still feel dirty.

  176. candy

    candy your ingratiation is noted but what I really want is for you to take notice of the uselessness of make work schemes.

    Not ingratiation, Dot, I just like to be on good terms with everyone if I can. It makes me feel good.
    Now I’m willing to see if this government’s work for the dole scheme has improved/better administered though I don’t recall any previous.

    I don’t think there are many dole “bludgers” as such – but idle hands etc …

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