Tuesday Forum: June 3, 2014

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963 Responses to Tuesday Forum: June 3, 2014

  1. C.L.

    800 kids died over 37 years in the care of nuns.

    Some fucking care.

    They were actually state-financed institutions.

    Here’s morally deranged Fairfax:

    The grim findings, which are being investigated by police, provide a glimpse into a particularly dark time for unmarried pregnant women in Ireland, where societal and religious mores stigmatised them. Without means to support themselves, women by the hundreds wound up at the Home. “When daughters became pregnant, they were ostracised completely,” Ms Corless said. “Families would be afraid of neighbours finding out, because to get pregnant out of marriage was the worst thing on Earth.

    21 deaths a year is “grim” and bespeaks “a particularly dark time.”

    Now here’s the same Fairfax last year, advocating accelerated extermination of children:

    Hospitals clamp down on abortions.

    Vulnerable women seeking late-term abortions are being turned away from hospitals because doctors are refusing to perform the procedure unless the foetus has a genetic abnormality.

    Women’s rights campaigners say that five years after Victoria decriminalised abortion, access to late-stage terminations for the most vulnerable patients – including rape victims and the intellectually disabled – has never been more restricted.

    They fear that with nowhere to go, distressed women are at increased risk of self-harm or resorting to backyard abortions.

    Killing children is good.

    How many? 21 a year?

    No:

    An estimated 140 Victorian women a year seek late-term abortions, about half for psychosocial reasons.

    That’s in Victoria alone. And they didn’t die of pneumonia. They were murdered.

    Give me old-fashioned Irish nuns any day of the week.

  2. Gab

    Stop “sweeping it under the carpet”, CL. /sarc

  3. jupes

    Fuck off, Jupes. You really are a moron.

    LOL

  4. Gab

    Well that was a non-event apology. Some anonymous voice-over read out the statement with the statement presented on screen. I thought Mark Scott would have had the courage to front up on camera.

  5. Grigory M

    Delta sama – hai, genki desu.

  6. C.L.

    Proving yet again that this nation’s judges are tow rags …

    The Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal has upheld the compensation paid to Muslim baby butcherer Raymond Akhtar Ali.

    The tribunal also had found there had been indirect discrimination when Ali was given non-halal pies, dim sims and pasties on some occasions, despite him complaining, and a ham sandwich.

    But a QCAT Judicial member said the findings of direct and indirect discrimination were justified on the evidence and rejected the State’s bid to take away his compensation.

    His crime:

    Ali’s baby, born on a Logan Village property, suffered severe fractures, and after her death her right leg was severed, she was cut in half and her reproductive organs removed.

    The baby’s mother, 22, who had worked in Ali’s butcher shop and became the married Ali’s virtual “sex slave’’, was found guilty of manslaughter.

    So taxpayers have given a baby butcherer free money because he was served a ham sandwich.

  7. jupes

    Yeah but … Victorian abortions … NHS incinerators … Boko Harem … Sudan … Female Factory … Boat People …

    Hey look over there ….

  8. Sinclair Davidson

    I thought Mark Scott would have had the courage to front up on camera.

    I actually thought that too.

  9. tomix

    Just on the subject of a dead child every fortnight for 35 years, what sort of psychopath puts a child’s body in a septic tank?

  10. Infidel Tiger

    David L was just on Richo. He needs to stop getting sidetracked by ridiculous questions from big government loving morons.

    Every question should come back to lower taxes, lower regulations.

  11. C.L.

    Let me repeat that:

    Queensland taxpayers have given a baby butcherer free money because he was served a ham sandwich.

  12. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Editor in Chief of the ABC would more than likely demand appearance money in order to issue the apology. And as we all know, the ABC has been cut to the bone in the recent budget.

  13. Gab

    Every question should come back to lower taxes, lower regulations.

    Yes he needs to learn the discipline of staying on-message.

  14. Tom

    I thought Mark Scott would have had the courage to front up on camera.

    I thought the Chaser Boys (average age 73.5) should have been allowed to ram a broken beer bottle up Mark Scott’s clacker live to air while Cory Bernardi, in a voiceover, announced the sale of Their ABC to the staff.

  15. tomix

    Irish nuns .. lovely people. Lovely.

  16. Gab

    lol your mind is a scary place sometimes, Tom.

  17. C.L.

    Yeah but … Victorian abortions … NHS incinerators … Boko Harem … Sudan … Female Factory … Boat People …

    Hey look over there ….

    That’s not an argument, Jupes.

    1. The institutions in Ireland were STATE institutions.
    2. 21 deaths a year in Ireland isn’t amazingly, fantastically incredible. The Spanish Flu wiped out that many before breakfast in many towns and villages.
    3. They were not thrown in a septic tank; they were found in and around what was later a septic tank.
    4. You need to explain why this justifies “some fucking care” when you appear totally at ease with thousands of children being murdered in Australia every year.

    GO!

  18. Infidel Tiger

    The Editor in Chief of the ABC would more than likely demand appearance money in order to issue the apology. And as we all know, the ABC has been cut to the bone in the recent budget.

    Exactly what I thought.

  19. C.L.

    Irish nuns .. lovely people. Lovely.

    Indeed they are.

    They saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of abandoned, unwanted children throughout the world when there was no free state money and hardly any civilians willing to run orphanages for a weekly wage of $0.00.

  20. Notafan

    A disused septic tank isn’t quite the same as a septic tank is it?
    For all we know there was nowhere to bury them, everyone in Ireland then was doing it hard there were no washing machines and I’d be surprised if they were using gas or electric stoves.
    Would there have been money for grave diggers or land for burials? You assume there was. The government paid for the upkeep and we don’t now if they provided sufficient funds to provide enough food etc.
    I had a relative who worked in an Australian orphanage in the 1950s, a very good and incredibly kind woman (a nun) who was as thin as a rake from the heavy manual labour of washing by hand, scrubbing floors and all that stuff that is taken for granted now.
    It’s the evil nun meme and no-one ever considers that some might have been kind and loving just as much as some should not have been in charge of children. We only have death certificates a mass grave and a couple of anecdotes from one historian.
    Life in Ireland was harsh and society including the Church treated unwed mothers badly. It was wrong.

  21. tomix

    Reasons why no-one should talk about the 800 babies in a septic tank. The Spanish Flu, Muslim psychopaths, child mortality statistics, partial birth abortions the MSM, other religious institutions in other countries at the same time,…

  22. Rabz

    Well that was a non-event apology. Some anonymous voice-over read out the statement with the statement presented on screen.

    So the arrogant bastards phoned it in. Gee, what a surprise.

  23. Gab

    Chris Kenny up next on 2GB.

  24. candy

    Irish nuns .. lovely people. Lovely.

    Don’t be harsh, Tomix.
    A time in history, what people thought of “bad” women and illegitimate babies. The way it was.

    No-one underestimates the suffering of those children and it’s awful to imagine, but you can’t go back into time and say to the nuns, this isn’t right.

  25. jupes

    GO!

    … when you appear totally at ease with thousands of children being murdered in Australia every year.

    Appear being the operative word.

    The Spanish Flu wiped out that many before breakfast in many towns and villages.

    Hey look over there. The Spanish Flu …

    1. The institutions in Ireland were STATE institutions.

    Run by nuns.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Plans to sleep the next week or so, having been foiled by post seeding admin (Mrs. Two Alpha has also reminded me of those few “little jobs!)… a few observations, if I may.

    John Constatene (spelling?) posted earlier about the “big boy’s toys” syndrome in plant and machinery. It’s a situation we have avoided by keeping it lean, and, if you need extra plant, you get a contractor in. Competition for contractors can be intense, but I have one advantage. “Payment by direct deposit as soon as I get your invoice.” Works every time.

    We did take the best financial advise of forty years ago “If you have a good year, invest off farm, in something that’s nothing to do with farming. Learn to manage your money – otherwise someone will charge you handsomely for doing so.” It’s led to a certain measure of financial security, so we aren’t up for a massive interest bill each year, and I make the big decisions – not the bank manager.

    What nobody could see long term was two mindsets – the staggering sense of self entitlement among Gen Y – they draw every last penny they can in dividends, and share of the off farm investments, but no – one can actually be bothered making any contribution. (One of my relatives was going to be taking over when I wanted to retire. There was a share-farming agreement in place – Two weeks on, a week off, and full time over seeding and harvest, an advance drawn against a share in the harvest, equivalent to a farmhands wage. His partner wanted to know that, if they withdrew from the agreement – in fact, take no part in the running of the farm whatsoever – could they still go on drawing money from the place? A negative answer on my part led to them welshing on the succession agreement….) Bitter? You bet.

    The other mindset that no – one could ever see , is the school of trophy parenting that leads to your social credibility depending on the fact that none of your sons will be going back to the farm.”No son of mine is ever going farming. My children are going to be University educated professionals, to take their place in society, NOT a mob of grubby little FARMERS!!!!” That explains why I’m the last generation on a farm that’s been here since just after the First World War. Again, rather bitter.

    Any way, permission having been granted, a couple of Glenronachs, and I am off to emulate 132andbush, and sleep for a week.

    To quote Motelier, play hard and play fair.

  27. Motelier

    If SatP is in the boonies, then I must be a close neighbour.

    I get a few Cattlecockies in the northern motel that only pay by cheque. It was a shock at first, but i have learned to live with it.

    Strangely, when presented, the cheque is cleared in 2 working days.

    Come in Cattlemen!

  28. C.L.

    Hey look over there. The Spanish Flu …

    It’s still not working, Jupes.

    Your “some fucking care” remark has been destroyed.

    You made it because you wanted to attack Catholics.

    But if you’d read a few reports and understood Irish history you would have known the institutions were state-financed. And the death toll stands up very well compared to virtually all state hospitals in Australia – which kill thousands of children a year.

    Bear in mind also that this report originated as a breathless telephone interview conducted by the Washington Post. We don’t know any of the details, as per the WaPo report.

  29. Motelier

    Z2KA
    Enjoy a couple of days respite.

    The slavey here in the tourism industry continues.

    Now the relief manager in the northern motel is trying to call the shots.

    Ahem!

  30. jupes

    … but you can’t go back into time and say to the nuns, this isn’t right.

    You would think they would have figured it out for themselves.

  31. Peter from SA

    very pissweak apology from “their ABC”.

    they are not really sorry. Just ticking the legal boxes.

    as somebody else said – if Scott himself had a fire-side chat would have meant something.
    They don’t get it at all. wankers.

  32. tomix

    You would have, wouldn’t you? But maybe it was a time and place when certain people thought that they could do whatever they liked to vulnerable children. And guess what?

    They were right. They could.

  33. I’m struggling with how the concepts of “consecrated ground” & “septic tank” were reconciled.

  34. .

    Infidel Tiger
    #1333711, posted on June 4, 2014 at 9:09 pm
    David L was just on Richo. He needs to stop getting sidetracked by ridiculous questions from big government loving morons.

    Every question should come back to lower taxes, lower regulations.

    That is a bit disappointing but Richo is a master. The only people capable of screwing him over were Hawke, Keating and Beazley.

  35. jupes

    Your “some fucking care” remark has been destroyed.

    If you say so C.L.

    You made it because you wanted to attack Catholics.

    No. I wanted to see the reaction of Catholics, in particular whether they have a different reaction to kids killed while in the care of nuns to those killed by abortion.

    Believe it or not, I am pretty disappointed at the lack of outrage over this.

    We don’t know any of the details, as per the WaPo report.

    True. The accuracy of the article does leave a bit to be desired.

  36. .

    The other mindset that no – one could ever see , is the school of trophy parenting that leads to your social credibility depending on the fact that none of your sons will be going back to the farm.”No son of mine is ever going farming. My children are going to be University educated professionals, to take their place in society, NOT a mob of grubby little FARMERS!!!!” That explains why I’m the last generation on a farm that’s been here since just after the First World War. Again, rather bitter.

    WTF?

    If I acquire enough capital to become the first farmer in generations (god willing), both sides of my family will be very proud of me.

    Marrying a cute girl off the land is always a good option though.

    I really don’t get the aversion to farming. The life skills and general can do ability from the young guys I know off the land are just amazing. Makes you feel a little bit useless.

  37. calli

    kids killed while in the care of nuns

    What or who are you suggesting killed them, Jupes?

  38. tomix

    You’d have to wonder what the reaction would be like if something like this had happened in a Church of England institution.
    Except it never did.

  39. I really don’t get the aversion to farming.

    Incredibly hard work for little material reward, in the event there is a material reward, as often as not there’s the sheer despair of eighteen months works going west on the last night due to the vagaries of the weather.
    If all else fails, and you look like making a quid, as likely as not the suits will find a way to put their hand in your pocket somehow.
    I understand it very well. Great way to raise kids & a family though.

  40. jupes

    What or who are you suggesting killed them, Jupes?

    Malnutrition, disease, neglect, cruelty. That’s what the article alludes to.

  41. Malnutrition, disease, neglect, cruelty. That’s what the article alludes to.

    If the article is to be believed, quite a few of the poor tots will have died of sheer misery.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    The other mindset that no – one could ever see , is the school of trophy parenting that leads to your social credibility depending on the fact that none of your sons will be going back to the farm.”No son of mine is ever going farming. My children are going to be University educated professionals, to take their place in society, NOT a mob of grubby little FARMERS!!!!” That explains why I’m the last generation on a farm that’s been here since just after the First World War. Again, rather bitter.

    How shit.

    I was always super envious of people who had farms. I would love to be a farmer. I’m good at complaining and sitting on a tractor listening to the cricket is my idea of heaven. What other qualities does one need?

    A mate of mine used to get his girlfriend to come aboard the harvester for a short ride on long days. That sounded alright too.

  43. jupes

    That is a bit disappointing but Richo is a master. The only people capable of screwing him over were Hawke, Keating and Beazley.

    Rubbish. Big Al Jones beclowns Richo every Tuesday night.

    It’s actually quite watchable because Big Al never mentions CSG. Must be in the contract.

  44. Gab

    Fascinating to watch as you all concoct your tales sans evidence of anything.

    According to documents Corless provided the Irish Mail on Sunday, malnutrition and neglect killed many of the children, while others died of measles, convulsions, TB, gastroenteritis and pneumonia.

    But yeah, keep building the story in your head that these kids were all tortured to death by all the nuns. I have no doubt there were some cruel ones during those years just as there were ones who were decent.

    And here’s a picture of the kids from the Connaught Tribune, 21st June 1924 and another pic.

  45. Hendrix

    The other mindset that no – one could ever see , is the school of trophy parenting that leads to your social credibility depending on the fact that none of your sons will be going back to the farm.”No son of mine is ever going farming. My children are going to be University educated professionals, to take their place in society, NOT a mob of grubby little FARMERS!!!!” That explains why I’m the last generation on a farm that’s been here since just after the First World War. Again, rather bitter.

    Pretty much exact opposite where I grew up. It’s a badge of honour to pass the farm onto the kids and have sons who are still farming. Fathers who couldn’t pass the farm onto the kids can feel like failures. Don’t think my Dad was a failure, though I’m sure that’s how he feels sometimes.

  46. .

    So wait…children in Ireland died in WWII when their only trading partner pretty much would have been the UK which was in total war with Germany and the Japanese and was bombed out and had food shortages and this included the north of ireland.

    I’m not surprised there was malnutrition and starvation. What do people think happens to commercial fishing in the middle of a years long naval battle involving the sinking of merchant shipping? 20% of the Irish merchant marine died in WWII.

    Read the article…this was found…in 1995. The grave was under concrete. Irish commenting in the thread say it was a disused water tank.

    If these children often came from shameful situations like incest, they likely would have had higher child mortality rates anyway.

  47. srr

    You’d have to wonder what the reaction would be like if something like this had happened in a Church of England institution.
    Except it never did.

    So what do you know about the hundreds of children missing from State Care, prostituted while in State Care, killed while in and under State Care, in Australia, today?

    Want to talk about it?

  48. Motelier

    Z2KA

    The other mindset that no – one could ever see , is the school of trophy parenting that leads to your social credibility depending on the fact that none of your sons will be going back to the farm.”No son of mine is ever going farming. My children are going to be University educated professionals, to take their place in society, NOT a mob of grubby little FARMERS!!!!” That explains why I’m the last generation on a farm that’s been here since just after the First World War. Again, rather bitter.

    IT,

    I think you missed the point. We all want our offspring to do “better”.

    I am a tradie that ended with a degree and then ended in business with Mrs M who also has her degree.

    All of our farmers are highly skilled in the production of their farm outputs. They are no different to any other business owner in Australia, or in fact the world. We all would be happy to have our offspring take over the family business. Sadly, in the modern world, that happens in only a very few high profile positions.

    I am sure that each business owner is very closely attuned to the running costs of their business, whether it be primary business, secondary business or any other business.

    The sadness of the parents of the kinder not wanting to take up the farm is sad for those that have a long history on the land or any business.

    However,

    I have seen many businesses swallowed up into the banks because of ineptitude.

    While Z2KA can feel uncomfortable and bitter about the kinder not wanting to leave the farm, at least he has the chance to leave a profitable enterprise available for sale.

    Mote

  49. .

    I’m with you IT. Sounds like happy days.

  50. johanna

    Their ABC is still running a pack of lies about Evil Coal and glorious “renewable energy” as fact.

    “Death spiral”

    As alternative energy advisor Elias Hinckley put it an recent blog, “the rationale for the downgrade is stark, with Barclays expecting more than 20 per cent of US electric consumers to live in states where solar combined with electric storage will be as cheap or cheaper than utilities can deliver power to those same consumers within four years.”

    Mr Hinckley, an energy and tax partner with Washington-based law firm Sullivan and Worcester says, essentially, Barclays is re-pricing bankruptcy risk for the entire electric utility sector.

    “This a sophisticated bank not just acknowledging coming changes to the utility model, but pointing to the risks that have given rise to the idea of the utility death spiral and determining them to be a clear and present danger,” he added.

    “Sophisticated” doesn’t mean what he thinks it does.

    No doubt the ABC’s Fact Check unit will be all over this. /sarc

  51. tomix

    If you have something to say, SIT, spit it out.

  52. Infidel Tiger

    I am a tradie that ended with a degree and then ended in business with Mrs M who also has her degree.

    A tradie who went to Uni to get a degree? Why the fuck did you do that? Don’t you like money?

  53. dover_beach

    So wait…children in Ireland died in WWII when their only trading partner pretty much would have been the UK which was in total war with Germany and the Japanese and was bombed out and had food shortages and this included the north of ireland.

    I’m not surprised there was malnutrition and starvation.

    In fact, we are talking about Ireland between 1925-61. So it includes events like the Irish Civil War, the Great Depression, WWII, and its economic and political isolation following that given its decision to remain neutral.

    Read the article…this was found…in 1995.

    Hmm, so why are we reading about this now and not then?

    The grave was under concrete. Irish commenting in the thread say it was a disused water tank.

    That eases my mind a little more so long as it was consecrated.

  54. Motelier

    I am a tradie that ended with a degree and then ended in business with Mrs M who also has her degree.

    A tradie who went to Uni to get a degree? Why the fuck did you do that? Don’t you like money?

    Of course.

    Hence being in business. RTWT.

    The point is that few of our prodigy now want to follow in our steps. They see all of the really hard steps to maintain a business and just want the easy life.

    Only a very few like Lachlan and Jamie actually follow through. Even then, their early judgement is always questioned.

    IT….purchase the farm and enjoy. My dialogue is not meant to stop people from their dreams.

  55. johanna

    Well, unless farming families only have one child, or are very wealthy, it is inevitable that some or most of the kids have to do something else.

    A pretty prosperous wheat/sheep outfit in NSW I have known for decades had three kids.

    One became a barrister, one became an academic, and one stayed on the farm.

    The lad who stayed on the farm is a multimillionaire. While far from stupid, he didn’t like cities or sitting in class. However, he was an autodidact of impressive proportions, including having an encyclopaedic knowledge of classical music and merino bloodlines.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What other qualities does one need

    Infidel Tiger, I can only presume you have forgotten the sarc tag. Otherwise, I envy you, your ignorance.

  57. Motelier

    Night all,
    Breakfast at 6.30.

    So play hard and play fair.

  58. srr

    If you have something to say, SIT, spit it out.

    I did have something to say, and said it. See:

    So what do you know about the hundreds of children missing from State Care, prostituted while in State Care, killed while in and under State Care, in Australia, today?

    Want to talk about it?

    I clearly asked you about the horrific numbers of children actually cruelly killed while under the care of The State in this modern, prosperous Australia, with no food shortage, modern medicine, modern record keeping, modern high speed global communication, and whether you wanted to talk about how evil all those God mockers letting it happen, now, really are, or even what you propose doing to stop those savage cruel deaths, and lock up those still getting away with it.

    Or do you simply like getting off on kicking old and long dead nuns for the fun it, ‘coz it’s cool kickin anyfing catholic’?

  59. Demosthenes

    Their ABC is still running a pack of lies about Evil Coal and glorious “renewable energy” as fact.

    Fears of a “death spiral” from a decreasing customer base are not unfounded, johanna. Germany is quite a way down this path already, thanks to the energiewende.

  60. johanna

    Sure enough, there is a rent-seeker on the ABC’s laughably called “The Business” complaining that cuts to government subsidies for “innovation” is the end of science and technology in Australia.

    Yup, if only we had spent more money, Microsoft and Apple would have been startups in Adelaide and Launceston.

  61. johanna

    I assume that you forgot the /sarc tag there, Demosthenes?

  62. srr

    The Secret Service’s proposed Twitter sarcasm detector is totally going to work

    http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/03/secret-service-wants-sarcasm-detectors/?

    yeah, good luck with that…and will a /sarc tag cancel out already detected sarcasm or read as a threat when there’s no sarcasm to be detected, and will NaDT be read as stated or as sarcastically making a death threat?

    Surely this is something dreamed up by, ‘born knowing everything and polishing it at Uni’ kids, who think they actually run the Governments that provide department offices for the brats to play in. Surely…or am I being sarcastic?

  63. twostix

    Reasons why no-one should talk about the 800 babies in a septic tank.

    If only we could link late-term abortion to catholic nuns 50 years ago that would allow people who currently don’t give a shit about hundreds of near-term babies left writhing in agony in buckets until they die to feel something about it.

  64. john constantine

    the overwhelming abc demand that farming be done in obedience to the ‘social licence to operate’ seems ridiculous now, but that is what little joe ludwug did, withdrew the social licence to operate from the cattle industry overnight.

    the immense push for ‘certification’ to supply placebo effect to food consumers makes the veins in my head throb. every dodgy inbred that deserves to be coated in rancid mutton fat, and sooled by hunting dogs is out to cream a halal style blackmail payment/protection money from agriculture to allow it to continue to exist.

    the future for the family farm is condemned by the twin influences of deranged green regulation, and overpriced property values.

    in the victorian weekly times property guide was a recent example of a single farmer that had gone on one of the television reality dating shows. he had got a sophisticated chick [not off the show], and was now selling half his farm to build her dream home. he will end up with enough ground to run 500 cows on [doesn't say if that is breeders, or cow/calf counted as two.
    the punch line is that the half a farm he runs 400 cows on has an asking price of 5 million, due to location.
    working agriculturalists there just need to bale out and go while the going is good. [before sarah scold and whinge gets to rule the country in cohorts with the queen of loud angry talking.]

  65. C.L.

    This week’s WJW Award …

    … or The Shit Lawyers Say.

    Especially female ones defending other females:

    Ms McLaughlin also argued that while sending the image was in poor taste, it was not offensive to a reasonable person.

    Not offensive to a reasonable person?

  66. C.L.

    No. I wanted to see the reaction of Catholics, in particular whether they have a different reaction to kids killed while in the care of nuns to those killed by abortion.

    Well, considering the reports say the children died of natural illnesses – which were endemic, usually fatal and especially likely to be deadly in a run-down state-financed institution in the Ireland of the 19-fucking-20s till the 1960s, the comparison is utterly bizarre.

    Children aborted are killed with homicide and malice aforethought. And thousands are so murdered in Victoria alone every year – in atheist institutions.

    So 1) yes, my reaction is very different; and 2) your challenge had the unexpected and far more telling effect of bringing into stark relief your own hypocritical indifference to late term abortion. This was a major rake you stepped on. And for what?

  67. Gab

    New flyer authorised by federal Labor MP Alannah MacTiernan:

    WHAT do Abbott and Hockey have against young people? They tell you — “earn or learn”. They send uni fees through the roof and double the interest rate on HECS.

    Paul Keating at the opening of Victoria University’s Sunbury campus on May 12, 1995:

    THERE is no such thing, of course, as “free” education — somebody has to pay. In systems with no charges those somebodies are all taxpayers. This is a pretty important point: a “free” higher education system is one paid for by the taxes of all, the majority of whom haven’t had the privilege of a university education. Ask yourself if you think that is a fair thing.

  68. Foggyfig

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/alison-anderson-warns-pup-to-follow-through-with-funds/story-e6frgczx-1226943655543

    INDIGENOUS politician Alison Anderson has warned that the Northern Territory branch of Clive Palmer’s party cannot survive without resources, saying she and her colleagues have received nothing from the businessman since joining his party.

    After quitting the Country Liberal Party in April, Ms Anderson and her indigenous backbench colleagues, Francis Xavier Kurrupuwu and Larisa Lee, joined the Palmer United Party, giving it representation in a third parliament.

    At the time, Mr Palmer praised their courage in standing up for neglected indigenous people. He denied offering financial incentives, saying the trio had defected because the CLP government was “falling apart”, and the independents stood to gain the balance of power.

    Ms Anderson last night told The Australian she and her colleagues had joined the PUP for a platform to develop new policies. However, she said the trio still needed support.

    “I think we need to sit tight and fight for resources,” Ms Anderson said. “If they really want the PUP to be successful in the Northern Territory then they need to understand that it needs resources, it needs people. Even if we had two people, a research officer and a media person, it would help.”

    She said she and her colleagues would be meeting PUP officials next week to discuss the issue.

    Ms Anderson did not rule out quitting a third political party (she was first elected as a Labor politician) but said it was unlikely. Mr Kurrupuwu said he, too, was disappointed the trio had not received support.

    “I’ve got a bit of a question mark (in my head) because of what’s happened over the last couple of months; we’ve had a bit of up and down,” he said. “If nothing works, we will probably set up our own party — Alison and I have discussed it.”

    Mr Kurrupuwu ruled out rejoining the CLP, and said he had no plans to leave the PUP in the near term.

    Former Country Liberal president Braedon Earley, who defected to the Palmer United Party last month, has now quit that party, too.

    According to an email seen by The Australian, Mr Earley resigned on Tuesday evening, telling Mr Palmer: “Clive, I am resigning as a member of your party and as public officer for the Northern Territory.”

    Mr Earley gave no reason for his decision, and did not return The Australian’s calls.

    A spokesman for Mr Palmer did not return calls.

    Ms Anderson said that as well as the three PUP MPs not receiving resources from their own party, Chief Minister Adam Giles had ignored two letters requesting additional public resources to help scrutinise legislation, and unfairly denied herself and her two colleagues the ability to take part in the budget estimates process.

    In response, Mr Giles said: “Alison Anderson’s letter was responded to in writing on May 13 and she has every ability to scrutinise the budget in exactly the same fashion as she did last year through the estimates committee process.”

  69. C.L.

    Leak brutal and brilliant.

  70. Foggyfig

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/campbell-newman-strikes-back-at-clive-palmer-in-court/story-e6frg6n6-1226943655676

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/peta-credlin-works-for-liar-pup/story-fn59niix-1226943533231

    THE Palmer United Party’s only female senator has added fuel to Clive Palmer’s attack on Peta Credlin by declaring she has “little sympathy” for Tony Abbott’s chief of staff.

    PUP senator-elect Jacqui Lambie told The Australian she supported Mr Palmer’s raising of the government’s paid parental leave policy in parliament on Monday.

    Mr Palmer said the policy discriminated against women “just so the Prime Minister’s chief of staff can receive a massive benefit when she gets pregnant”.

    When asked if she thought his remarks were sexist, Ms Lambie said: “What I find sexist is Abbott’s lies. I have little sympathy for Peta Credlin.

    “We all have choices in life and she’s chosen to work for a bare-faced, uncaring liar who never told Australians before the last election that he would take $80 billion from health and education. (Mr Abbott) lied to every Australian woman before the election.”

    Ms Lambie, who will enter the Senate on July 1 and vote as part of a bloc that will share the balance of power, said there should be no paid parental leave schemes as they would harm the economy.

    “Abbott’s budget cuts and his paid parental leave scheme run the risk of causing Tasmania and Australia to slide into recession,” she said. “I think it time we cancelled all PPL schemes, including PUP’s, and thought about a different set of priorities for Australia.”

    Mr Palmer also told parliament he believed Ms Credlin had “undue influence” on the government. While he has refused to publicly apologise for his comments, Mr Palmer said yesterday he had sent a letter to Ms Credlin express­ing “great regret if I offended her personally’’.

    “It was a matter of great regret if I offended her personally, right, but I was using her because she’s a successful woman, she’s getting a high salary,” he said.

    Mr Palmer last night denied making any reference to the possibility of Ms Credlin becoming pregnant.

    “I never said anything about her pregnancy,” Mr Palmer told ABC’s 7.30.

    Ms Credlin has not responded to Mr Palmer’s remarks but has previously discussed her struggle to conceive using IVF.

    Mr Palmer said: “I wasn’t aware of any of those things, I was looking at the broader issue and the Australian community, and I was completely unaware of those things.”

    Mr Abbott broke his silence on the issue, warning that “blokes around this place have learnt to underestimate women at their peril”. The Prime Minister said Mr Palmer was wrong about the Coal­ition’s signature scheme. “The gentleman in question does not understand the Coal­ition’s policy,” he said.

    Deputy Labor leader Tanya Plibersek said she did not believe staff should be brought into the political debate; Labor frontbencher Kate Ellis said Mr Palmer’s comments were “low” and ­“unacceptable”.

  71. JC

    Scientists baffled by increase of LA quakes…

    Baffled? I’m guessing the science isn’t quite settled in this area.

  72. This defence of nuns slinging dead kids into the septic tank is better than watching Senator Sea Patrol declare “accidents happen”.
    Just about every last lefty excuse method has been used. Most entertaining thread for ages.

    If I’m going to play up old harry, I’ll be sure to aim for a free pass and do it in a habit & while declaring I’m doing “Rome’s work”.

  73. Foggyfig

    I wish I could draw like Leak

  74. johanna

    So, Jacquie Lambie thinks that the government has ripped money out of programs that have never been funded? And that serial opportunist, alienator of anyone she has ever been aligned with, Alison Anderson, is complaining about a temporary slowdown in taxpayer funding?

    Pauline Hanson’s crowd were Mensa cum laude compared to this lot.

    Clive is a massive magnet for fruitcakes, urgers and fools.

  75. dover_beach

    This defence of nuns slinging dead kids into the septic tank is better than watching Senator Sea Patrol declare “accidents happen”.

    Wow. They “killed” and then “slang kids into septic tank”. I heartily await the claim that these tanks were still being used.

  76. Foggyfig

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/christopher-pynes-reforms-backed-by-go8/story-e6frgcjx-1226943652782

    JULIE HARE and JOHN ROSS
    The Australian
    June 05, 2014 12:00AM

    AUSTRALIA’S elite universities have broken ranks with the higher education peak body, saying bungled reforms under Labor made Education Minister Christopher Pyne’s unpopular changes necessary and ­inevitable.

    Mike Gallagher, executive ­director of the Group of Eight universities, said the Abbott government had no “realistic policy alternatives” to its budget reforms, which will see funding rates cut, student fees deregu­lated, real interest applied to ­student loans and universities exposed to private sector ­competition.

  77. johanna

    Yup, the Chaser middle-aged-identity-crisis “boys” have dropped their ABC right in it.

    Hours before the ABC broadcast an on-air apology last night to Kenny, the Chaser presenter named in the defamation suit, ­Andrew Hansen, appeared to defy the terms of the settlement in a tweet: “ABC’s apologising to Chris Kenny, again. The Chaser isn’t, again. But we’ve agreed not to make more pictures of ABC execs shagging hamsters.”

    The Chaser’s Chris Taylor posted on Facebook: “Just to be clear. The Chaser team is not apologising, and will never apologise to Chris Kenny. Tonight’s on-air apology is from the ABC, not us.”

    Both statements appeared to breach the terms of the ABC’s settlement with Kenny that specified members of the Chaser team would not make public statements that “detract” from the apology.

    I just wish that the late, great, Roddy Meagher was still around to deal with these people. They would have been as mobile homes in the face of a Force 8 tornado.

    They would not only be bankrupted, their reputations would be deservedly ruined for the span of living memory.

  78. Grigory M

    Good morning, all – it’s been raining.

  79. Baldrick

    The ABC faux apology to Chris Kenny … all 45 seconds worth.
    No Mark Scott – just a voice-over reading from a script – pathetic.

  80. Blogstrop

    Once again, why is The Oz running climate change scare stories? Sid Maher draws on those impeccable sources the Climate Institute and Choice magazine for his article predicting that household insurance costs will double due to climate change. The management must be trying to attract catastrophy-inclined readers away from Fairfax.
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/climate-threat-to-housing-insurance/story-e6frg6xf-1226943517019

  81. jupes

    … your challenge had the unexpected and far more telling effect of bringing into stark relief your own hypocritical indifference to late term abortion.

    You made that up C.L.

    Hypocritical indifference is exactly what is on display here but not from me.

  82. jupes

    Yup, the Chaser middle-aged-identity-crisis “boys” have dropped their ABC right in it.

    Hopefully Big Al Jones asks Turnball about it when he interviews him this morning.

  83. tomix

    The Oz has always been a spruiker for renewable energy and I think a commitment to carbon trading is part of News Limited policy.
    Of course, the paper has been in the vanguard of political correctness for 50 years, so why are you surprised.

  84. dover_beach

    People knew what was happening at The Home. Excerpt from a news account.

    “A local health board inspection report from April 1944 recorded 271 children and 61 single mothers in residence, a total of 333 in a building that had a capacity for 243.

    The report described the children as ‘emaciated,’ ‘pot-bellied,’ ‘fragile’ with ‘flesh hanging loosely on limbs.’ The report noted that 31 children in the ‘sun room and balcony’ were ‘poor, emaciated and not thriving.’ The effects of long term neglect and malnutrition were observed repeatedly.”

    News of Tuam’s “The Home” is horrific. Nightmarish. One can only feel compassion for these faceless victims of coldness and hate.

  85. tomix

    The historian who broke the story of the children dumped in a septic tank:

    “I do blame the Catholic Church,” says Corless. “I blame the families as well but people were afraid of the parish priest. I think they were brainwashed. I suppose the lesson is not to be hiding things. To face up to reality.”

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/mass-grave-800-skeletons-babies-found-irish-home-unwed-mothers-article-1.1815381#ixzz33hwIzr6N

  86. jupes

    Big Al ripping into Turnball right now.

  87. Notafan

    The home in Ireland was a former workhouse built by the British in the 19th century or earlier, do you think it had necessary had, electricity hot and cold running water and all the mod cons? It was grossly overcrowded according to the 1944 report, is that not the state’s responsibility?
    There is no evidence put forward that the dead were ‘slung ‘ anywhere.
    No doubt we will continue to see these stories present things in the worst possible light with those involved given no opportunity to defend themselves or the full story to be told.

  88. kae

    Policewoman sends offensive image to her defacto after he complains about how hard his day is because a bolt broke?

    A police officer sees the worst (and best) of and in people in their job.

    It was disrespectful to use the image of the deceased, but why did this ever go to court? Why wasn’t she just reprimanded?

    What a waste of time and money. (Or was it part of a bigger picture?)

  89. jupes

    Turnball handling it quite well.

  90. Notafan

    How about yahoo news ‘tributes flow for nun who lived life helping hard core poor children ‘ murdered in Seremban Malaysia a couple of weeks ago?

  91. Notafan

    Report in the daily mail Australia says the babies were usually buried in a plain shroud in a plot that housed a water tank attached to the workhouse that preceded the mother and child home.
    The grave was rediscovered in the 1970s.
    A freezing cold workhouse, three or four nuns looking after over one hundred children, no hot water and insufficient food, according to the article sounds really dreadful, it must have been an awful place.

  92. jupes

    Big Al asking Turnball whether the ABC will sack the Chaser for their reaction to the apology.

    Turnball says Scott should have kicked them in the bum and apologised immediately and it would have been the end of it. He admits thousands of ABC – taxpayers (corrected by Big Al) – dollars were wasted on this.

    He says Mark Scott will be grappling with sacking them today. Turnball says he himself can’t do anything about sacking them.

    Turnball acknowledges that the ABC has a responsibility to be balanced, but didn’t say whether he would do anything about it (or even acknowledge they were biased).

    Summary: Big Al didn’t hold back and Turnball handled it pretty well.

  93. cynical1

    800 kids died over 37 years in the care of nuns.

    Rudd and Gillard killed more boat people in 6.

    But (crickets) from the left.

  94. Token

    I blame the families as well but people were afraid of the parish priest. I think they were brainwashed.

    Of course, there is no evidence to substantiate the statement, it is another lefty dangerously emoting to the vicious partisan press who enjoy feeding the sectarian hatred of the left.

    What’s up tomorrow, more anti-semetic bile?

  95. Token

    Summary: Big Al didn’t hold back and Turnball handled it pretty well.

    AJ noted he had warned Turnbull about the questions last night. Nice to see a former QC performs well when asked questions he is prepared for.

    Big Al asking Turnball whether the ABC will sack the Chaser for their reaction to the apology.

    After waffling on about the need for 4 Radio & 5 TV networks to the people in the bush Turnbull stated he can’t control the ABC as they are protected by legislation – which he as Communications Minister has no intention of changing – he says because of the make up of the Senate.

  96. Geriatric Mayfly

    That apology came over as if the ABC was losing a lucrative advertising spot in having to sacrifice time for such trivia.

  97. cynical1

    The Chaser twats prosper indirectly from the taxpayer, by selling their product to the ABC.

    Let the legal costs be returned to the taxpayer.

    From these prick’s pockets…

  98. Foggyfig

    How do I contact Sinc

  99. Token

    800 kids died over 37 years in the care of nuns.

    When I learned about history one of the most important words we learned was anachronism, and the importance of placing events within the context of the time.

    What was the standard of medecine in period up to 1944? How easy was it to get penicillin.

    The challenge of mass-producing this drug was daunting. On March 14, 1942, the first patient was treated for streptococcal septicemia with US-made penicillin produced by Merck & Co.[33] Half of the total supply produced at the time was used on that one patient. By June 1942, just enough US penicillin was available to treat ten patients.[34] In July 1943, the War Production Board drew up a plan for the mass distribution of penicillin stocks to Allied troops fighting in Europe.[35] The results of fermentation research on corn steep liquor at the Northern Regional Research Laboratory at Peoria, Illinois, allowed the United States to produce 2.3 million doses in time for the invasion of Normandy in the spring of 1944. After a worldwide search in 1943, a mouldy cantaloupe in a Peoria, Illinois market was found to contain the best strain of penicillin for production using the corn steep liquor process.[36] Large-scale production resulted from the development of deep-tank fermentation by chemical engineer Margaret Hutchinson Rousseau.[37] As a direct result of the war and the War Production Board, by June 1945, over 646 billion units per year were being produced

    I would love to understand why the unfortunate tykes in Ireland would have a better standard of healthcare than children in rich places like the US which was undisturbed by the war.

  100. C.L.

    My day starts with a laugh:

    FRESH-FACED HILLARY BEGINS PRESS TOUR…

    MAG: NOT USING WALKER…

    You need to see the DRUDGE Hillary pic.

  101. C.L.

    Mike Carlton can relate:

    Maureen Dowd on pot candy bar: ‘I became convinced that I had died’.

    “I had been convinced that I had died and no one was telling me,” Dowd said..

  102. Token

    Is Hillary is leaning on a rail or a walking frame ?

  103. Token

    My investment in the IPA continues to yield great returns – Stephanie Forest’s great little article in The Aus is guaranteed to yield tens if not hundreds of lefty head explosions:

    But Australia’s National Curriculum shows exactly why we shouldn’t let a small group of hand-picked experts decide what every student in every school is taught.

    Just look at what happened here when we left our Foundation to Year 10 English curriculum to the experts. It currently includes a disproportionately large amount of content about languages other than English, different cultural perspectives, and ethical issues like climate change.

    …There are vague indications of the kind of readings the curriculum writers had in mind. A large chunk of the rationale is spent emphasising the contribution of indigenous peoples to Australia’s literary heritage and our links with Asia. Elsewhere, the curriculum alludes to things like Dreamtime literature, the Ramayana, and other “texts” from or about other cultures.

    Any of this in measure is fine. But where are the works foundational to the Western literary canon? Where are Homer, Virgil, Shakespeare, Milton and Dickens?

    Nowhere. Aside from some vague references to Keats, Tennyson, Burns and Blake in example sentences, the only European stories that the F-10 curriculum refers to explicitly are Jack and the Beanstalk and Cinderella.

    Even Shakespeare is missed. In fact, he is mentioned only in the glossary, where he features in an example sentence — namely: “because I am reading Shakespeare, my time is limited”.

  104. lotocoti

    the importance of placing events within the context of the time.

    Exactly.
    The raw numbers and the emotive reportage paint a terrible picture, but for an institution at the arse end of the supply chain and at the far end of nowhere, the average mortality rate was probably as good as a modern Children’s Hospital.
    Had they been interred in the consecrated cemetery, there’d be no story.

  105. john constantine

    did i get the sense that palmer loose cannon jaquie lambie to the slaughter hates the abbottbeast with the pure hatred of righteousness?.

    will the abc comfems that revel in taxpayer funded paid parental leave question the abbottbeast hating lambie on her position that there should be no paid parental leave?.

    will anybody try and gotcha lambie into stating that the abc paid parental leave scheme is tax-hoovering?.

    people so out of their depth like senator lambie and senator muir may well end up looking for an excuse to get out of the pressure cooker before it is all over.

  106. Cold-Hands

    Is Hillary is leaning on a rail or a walking frame ?

    That’s what I thought, too!

  107. C.L.

    Lawyers: what are the legal implications of the Chaser “boys” defying the terms of the ABC’s settlement with Chris Kenny?

  108. JC

    It takes a teenage kid to ask, town drunk and leader of the congressional D’rats , Nancy Pelosi a tough question alluding to her hypocrisy.

    Town Drunk… blames Bush.

    Look at the Indian kid wearing a shirt a few sizes too big for his neck.

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/pelosi-confronted-teen-reporter-nsa

  109. Token

    …the average mortality rate was probably as good as a modern Children’s Hospital.

    I have noted before I have great Aunts who were Catholic nuns who lived through the war in Nazi occupied western europe. The were still young at the time, but they & my grandparents communicated the desperate work they went through trying to care for the sick, young & elderly during the Nazi enforced famines.

    Anyone who looks at that time without understand the desperation of the time and condemns the people who dedicated their lives to care are very low individuals.

  110. JC

    Lawyers: what are the legal implications of the Chaser “boys” defying the terms of the ABC’s settlement with Chris Kenny?

    Dunno about the legal implications but for their relationship with the ABC.. I’m sure they’ll get a prime time show. Mark Scott is working on that one right now.
    Scott’s like the Rodney Dangerfield and Sgt Schultz of Australian media rolled into one. He sees nothing and gets no respect from anyone.

  111. C.L.

    How would Hillary get in and out of Marine One with a zimmer frame?

  112. Rabz

    I had been convinced that I had died and no one was telling me

    In fairness, she has been braindead since the early Seventies.

    A medical consultant told Dowd later that these types of candy bars should be consumed by inexperienced users by cutting them into 16 pieces. That recommendation, she said, was not on the packaging label.

    I used to warn people partaking of my legendary space cakes that they had to be careful with the dose. One of my mates once ate the equivalent of about six pieces (for me) and ended up swearing off the stuff for good.

    Funnily enough, he never explained what happened to him during the experience. Presumably his recollection was somewhat hazy (mind you he didn’t end up dead or in hospital or gaol, so it can’t have been that bad).

    Disclaimer: The author of this comment nowadays unreservedly regards drugs as being very “bad”, mkay. Kiddies, steer well clear of drugs, users and peddlers.

    P.S. WTF is a seventy five year old woman doing chowing down on a Mary Jane laced candy bar in the first place? FFS, these people are a joke.

  113. C.L.

    ABC Online: Brother ‘leaned on’ witness

    Rolf Harris’s 90-year-old brother denies trying to pressure a witness to change her story about an alleged assault.

    Leaned on a witness? LOL.

  114. JC

    jc

    @mscott Mark Scott the Sgt Schultz and Rodney Dangerfield of Oz Media rolled in one. He sees nothing and gets no respect from anyone #auspol

    jc

    @mscott Hey Mark, great call on the Kenny thing. Any more mud in your face and you’ll start to look like those mud indig in Sth America

  115. JC

    How would Hillary get in and out of Marine One with a zimmer frame?

    I’m guessing OH&S would demand a ramp instead of steps and a marine would hold her. Hey but she’s fresh faced though. Really fresh faced.

  116. A Lurker

    Is Hillary is leaning on a rail or a walking frame ?

    She’s standing next to a pool – that frame looks like the rails of a pool ladder or steps. Mind you that photo looks to be heavily photoshopped, because here she’s definitely looking her age.

  117. Cold-Hands

    Kenny sued the ABC, Giant Dwarf productions and presenter Andrew Hansen. Presumably he can continue to sue both Hansen and the Chaser’s production company after the ABC has settled. The bigger question is, will Mark Scott drop the Chasers et al for their puerile attempts to undercut the ABC’s settlement deal?

  118. Some essential “Critical Theory & Social Justice” Courses at Occidental College—“A leader in the liberal arts and sciences”—in LA, California:

    180 – Stupidity
    Stupidity is neither ignorance nor organicity, but rather, a corollary of knowing and an element of normalcy, the double of intelligence rather than its opposite. It is an artifact of our nature as finite beings and one of the most powerful determinants of human destiny. Stupidity is always the name of the Other, and it is the sign of the feminine. This course in Critical Psychology follows the work of Friedrich Nietzsche, Gilles Deleuze, and most recently, Avital Ronell, in a philosophical examination of those operations and technologies that we conduct in order to render ourselves uncomprehending. Stupidity, which has been evicted from the philosophical premises and dumbed down by psychometric psychology, has returned in the postmodern discourse against Nation, Self, and Truth and makes itself felt in political life ranging from the presidency to Beavis and Butthead. This course examines stupidity.
    CORE REQUIREMENT MET: UNITED STATES and US DIVERSITY

    210 – Mother Goose to Mash-Ups: Children’s Literature and Popular Texts
    Why did the London Bridge fall down? Is Rub-a-dub-dub really about bath time? Why didn’t an old man live in a shoe? Who is more imperialist, Babar or Peter Pan? Is Tinky Winky gay? Is South Park a children’s show? Is Harry Potter a Hero? How tired was Rosa Parks? Using different critical approaches, this course will examine children’s poetry, picture books, novels, cartoons, feature films, and music videos. Analysis will include topics related to gender, race, culture, and nation, as they play out in the aesthetics, images, and poetics of children’s texts. Emphasis topic: Critical Race Theory
    CORE REQUIREMENT MET: UNITED STATES and US DIVERSITY

    271 – Theatre for Social Justice
    This course will serve as a hands-on introduction to the use of Theatre for Social Justice. Through theatre and diversity exercises, improvisation, discussion and readings in Theatre and social sciences, students will explore diverse strategies for tackling discrimination and/or other forms of social injustice and promoting safer and more inclusive communities. Topic for Spring 2015: LGBTQ & Allied Theatre Activism Practicum. The Spring 2015 course will draw from Theatre and Psychology to explore diverse strategies for addressing homophobia, transphobia, and sexism and promoting a safer and more inclusive campus for students of all genders and sexual orientations. Ultimately, students in the course will collaborate with Occidental College community members to craft a piece of theatre that can be used to address current LGBTQQIAA issues on the College campus.
    CORE REQUIREMENT MET: US DIVERSITY and FINE ARTS

    280 – Rasatafari
    This course will examine the character of postcolonial theory in the Afro-Caribbean. Particular attention will be paid to the work of C.L.R. James, Walter Rodney, Franz Fanon, Marcus Garvey, Aimé Césaire, Eric Williams, Kamau Brathwaite, and Bob Marley. The course will also examine Rastafari as a religio-political protest movement. We will chart the musicological development of Reggae and Dub Poetry as distinctive expressions of Rasta. Emphasis topic: Postcolonial Theory.
    CORE REQUIREMENT MET: INTERCULTURAL

    286 – Whiteness
    This course seeks to engage the emergent body of scholarship designated to deconstruct whiteness. It will examine the construction of whiteness in the historic, legal, and economic contexts which have allowed it to function as an enabling condition for privilege and race-based prejudice. Particular attention will be paid to the role of religion and psychology in the construction of whiteness. Texts will include Race Traitor, Critical White Studies, The Invention of the White Race, The Abolition of Whiteness, White Trash, and Even the Rat was White. Emphasis topic: Critical Race Theory.
    CORE REQUIREMENT MET: UNITED STATES

    386 – Critical Blackness
    Critical Race Theorists have begun to describe a “new blackness,” “critical blackness,” post-blackness,” and “unforgivable blackness.” This emergent scholarship, which describes a feminist New Black Man, also seeks to “queer blackness” and to articulate a black sexual politics that addresses a “new racism.” By calling us to examine the possibility of a black political solidarity that escapes the problems of identity politics, this scholarship provokes We Who Are Dark to imagine more complex and free identities. This course invites all of us to engage this scholarship.

  119. jupes

    … curriculum alludes to things like Dreamtime literature …

    Wow. They really teach kids this?

  120. Token

    That recommendation, she said, was not on the packaging label.

    Not enough regulation yet? The left will soon take all the fun out of the pot industry.

    I’m sure that Ms Dowd is excited by the prospect of the always complient Big Pharma giants getting involved in the industry.

  121. Another day – another stuffup - in Noddy Newman’s Queensland.
    And my tax dollar is paying for it.

  122. JC

    ….because here she’s definitely looking her age.

    Naaaa, not after a few days of a dozen botox shots.

    ———

    An American friend of mine is friends with a woman in NYC Bill’s been boning for a couple of years. Years! He stays at her apartment without a care in the world. If even some dude (me) in Australia hears about this stuff how the hell is it going to kept outta the media?

  123. Token

    How would Hillary get in and out of Marine One with a zimmer frame?

    One can only imagine the OH&S regulations she’d require to ensure no first lady ever again has to suffer the threat of being targeted by snipers & having to run for life

  124. JC

    The bigger question is, will Mark Scott drop the Chasers et al for their puerile attempts to undercut the ABC’s settlement deal?

    You fucking kidding. In bizarro ABC world that would qualify for a promotion.

    Remember you get fired for talking about the Lying Slapper’s misdoings and promoted if you publish a pic of a conservative humping a dog.

  125. Rabz

    Hillary – the female equivalent of Leonid Brezhnev.

  126. Token

    Joe Hockey’s courageous words in parliament could not have come at a more important time!

    Nobody Could Have Seen This Coming

    The NY Times reports on the next humanitarian crisis:

    Wave of Minors on Their Own Rush to Cross Southwest Border

    SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras — After a decade apart, 13-year-old Robin Tulio was finally heading to the border to be with his mother. A maid, living illegally in Baltimore, she had decided the time was right to smuggle her son into the United States.

    Like so many others across Central America, Robin said his mother believed that the Obama administration had quietly changed its policy regarding unaccompanied minors and that if he made it across, he would have a better shot at staying.

    She hired a smuggler, but Robin didn’t make it.

    “It’s too hard,” he said after being caught in Mexico recently and sent home to Honduras. But his aborted journey helps explain why there has been a rush of migration of unaccompanied minors so severe that the United Nations [link] declared it a humanitarian crisis akin to refugees’ fleeing war.

    Since Oct. 1, a record 47,017 unaccompanied children have been apprehended at the southwest United States border, most traveling from Central America, part of a larger wave that includes some youngsters accompanied by their parents and some traveling alone.

    Now if you are thinking there is a connection between this children’s crusade and Obama’s June 2012 executive action deferring prosecution of young illegals, well, you don’t what it takes to report for the Times.

  127. JC

    @mscott At Marks Scott’s ABC one gets fired for discussing Gillard’s sordid past and defended for showing rightie humping dog #auspol

  128. Senile Old Guy

    Ms Anderson said that as well as the three PUP MPs not receiving resources from their own party, Chief Minister Adam Giles had ignored two letters requesting additional public resources to help scrutinise legislation, and unfairly denied herself and her two colleagues the ability to take part in the budget estimates process.

    Thanks, FF, I missed this.

    Well, it’s falling apart sooner than I expected.

    Ms Anderson has only herself to blame. She looks to be about to quit the third party she has been involved with, is doing nothing for the people who elected her and will be gone with the next election. Nicely done!

  129. Rabz

    The course will also examine Rastafari as a religio-political protest movement.

    As opposed to a movement of whacked out potheads.

    Dedders, that is hilarious reading.

  130. JC

    This dude is a human dynamo. In an overcrowded market place he’s swinging it outta the park.

    I hate green cars as I like the idea of warming what is very cold planet. However this dude makes really good cars.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-tesla-elon-musk-sex-retirement-20140604-story.html

  131. James in Melbourne

    Does anyone have an email address for Mark Scott?

  132. calli

    Hilary leaning on a walker? Nope…it’s a chair.

    Photoshopped…probably. Or the makeup was applied with a palette knife.

  133. JC

    Does anyone have an email address for Mark Scott?

    Sure, he loves feedback. Can’t get enough of it.

    [email protected]

    Also, if you want to send one to Tony Springer-Jones
    [email protected]

    I heard they can’t block their emails as it violates some ABC rule.

    But don’t be rude though and don’t start telling them off about gerbil warming. Just be sarcastic with good putdowns.

    In fact defend Scott by suggesting he’s doing a great job of presenting an unbiased leftwing point of view at the ABC, which is how it should be because the political centre in Australia is the Greens. …. That sort of stuff

  134. Rudiau

    ‘Wow!’ And so it begins: White House smears vets, claims ‘swift boating’ of Bergdahl

    Swift-boating

    Unreal. Putting the lives of our brave troops at risk by releasing five Taliban leaders wasn’t enough, apparently. Now the White House has to smear those who put their lives on the line for this country.

    But, hey. Smear. Smear like the wind. It’s the Chicago way.

    h/t SDA
    Richard Fernandez

    Both President Obama and Ms. Rice seem to think that the crime of desertion in wartime is kind of like skipping class….

  135. pete m

    White House is doubling down on the stupid.

  136. JC

    If anyone doubts the existence of a parallel universe inhabited by idiocrats (high falutin term for imbeciles) look no further than Harry’s blog where you have Homer Paxton and DD brain storming an intellectual hurricane… a whirlwind of hard thinking.

    All that’s needed now is Wodge to show up to offer his opinions gratis and we’d have the brains storm of the century (includes 20th)

    Homer E Paxton says

    If Rupert’s eye was merely on the bottom line then the Australian would not exist.

    He always wanted a counter to the AFR.

    totally agree on the Grattan Institute puts out the best research I have read by a mile.

    derrida derider
    June 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Na, trampis, getting pre-edited free copy to fill your opinion pages will always be an attractive deal. And such copy is more bountifully available from the right than the left because, in the words of JK Galbraith “commercially, you can’t go far wrong appealing to the prejudices of rich old men” – true for “think tank” and newspaper alike.

    The trouble with the left wing and centrist think tanks alike is that they think their role is to propose well thought out detailed policy options, in the grand tradition of the Fabians. The IPA realises that its funders pay it to engage in polemics and lobbying on their behalf, so it is irrelevant how well or ill thought out the proposed policy is. Getting opinion pieces into the papers is probably not even one of the KPIs for Grattan Institute fellows, but I bet it damn well is for the IPA.

  137. JC

    White House is doubling down on the stupid.

    Ya reckon. I think they’re defending the Kenyan’s decision in way to camouflage his hatred of the US. He hates the place and everything about it. Hate the bastard back double and squared.

  138. JC

    Gee there’s a lot of love being shared between Fat Bastard and Newman. It’s like Valentines everyday with these two.

  139. lotocoti

    As opposed to a movement of whacked out potheads.

    Hey mon, where your love for de Lion of Judah?
    Steppin’ Razor be comin’ your way.

  140. dover_beach

    The grave was rediscovered in the 1970s.
    A freezing cold workhouse, three or four nuns looking after over one hundred children, no hot water and insufficient food, according to the article sounds really dreadful, it must have been an awful place.

    notafan or anyone else have the link to that Daily Mail article?

  141. C.L.

    I’m guessing OH&S would demand a ramp instead of steps …

    Hillary the dalek.

  142. nic

    If even some dude (me) in Australia hears about this stuff how the hell is it going to kept outta the media?

    Its not like he’s a Republican. Bill has been protected for years. One day they will make docu-dramas about his tooling in the way that Kennedy spawned a whole industry.

  143. Tom

    The Fucktard Media Industrial Complex scoured every word of yesterday’s press club lunch for an AbbottSatan gotcha, but, as usual, had to reach into a parallel universe for this Alinskyist doozie:

    Former prime minister John Howard has delivered a guarded rebuke to Tony Abbott, saying today’s politicians rely too heavily on slogans and declaring Australians will support change and reform so long as they are satisfied it is ”fundamentally fair”.

    Describing politics today as less ideological than in his time, the country’s second longest-serving prime minister has observed: ”We sometimes lose the capacity to argue the case – we think that it’s sufficient that we utter slogans.”

    Although Mr Howard, 74, avoided any reference to Mr Abbott or the federal budget, his remarks were seized upon by Opposition Leader Bill Shorten. ”John Howard must be beside himself watching Tony Abbott botch his first budget like this,” he said.

    Tomorrow: In a 2001 speech to school students, Peta Credlin decries the use of three-word feminist slogans.

  144. Grigory M

    Big Al

    Alan Jones – “Big Al”? – FFS.

  145. nic

    The ABC faux apology to Chris Kenny … all 45 seconds worth.

    Aren’t the ABC always banging on about the need to say ‘sorry’ and of the importance of ‘reconcilliation’ , ad nauseum?

  146. C.L.

    The Sydney Morning Herald actually acknowledges the Bergdahl controversy but adds:

    There is growing consensus in Washington DC that Obama broke a law, saying that Congress should have 30 days’ notice before prisoners are released from Guantanamo. Some on the far right are already calling for his impeachment though this demand has been made so often it now has little resonance.

    It has been made often because Obama is a criminal douchebag.

  147. Token

    ‘Wow!’ And so it begins: White House smears vets, claims ‘swift boating’ of Bergdahl

    Swift-boating

    Its not as if the generation of D’rats who cut their teeth in protests which said so many vile things about Vietnam vets actually respect the military.

  148. Token

    Alan Jones – “Big Al”? – FFS

    Yes, the Southpark reference is not hard to miss.

  149. nic

    SMH headline: “Turnbull brands Jones a ‘bomb thrower’ as pair lock horns”

    Yet they don’t have the guts to say that about those who actually throw bombs.

  150. C.L.

    Howard also noted yesterday that the so-called “GFC” was a fizzer in Australia because he left the country in tip-top fiscal shape.

    How come that wasn’t reported?

  151. val majkus

    gotta luve the ABC with its fearless reporting

    :THE federal opposition says the Liberals lied not just to the Australian people but to their own coalition partner about the budget.

    The Liberals allegedly created speculation about cutting the diesel fuel rebate – a proposal strongly opposed by farmers and the mining industry – as a way of getting their support for the “less worse” measure of re-linking the fuel excise to inflation.

    Senior Liberals have denied the ABC report, with Finance Minister Mathias Cormann saying there was “absolutely no truth” to the story and deputy Liberal leader Julie Bishop claiming “we’re a very close coalition

  152. Token

    gotta luve the ABC with its fearless reporting

    Lord Wentworth it is critical that country people have 4 radio networks & 5 digital TV services (and growing), plus all the internet and other presence to communicate such messages.

  153. lotocoti

    Reading through some of the stuff on Rabble it looks like the Bon Secour penguins were left holding the baby.

  154. Cold-Hands

    gotta luve the ABC with its fearless reporting

    Ascribing stories to anonymous “senior Liberal figures” means that there is nothing that they cannot say (or invent) to undermine this government. Note the sub-text: “Government takes orders from Twiggy and Gina”. With this sort of standard of journalism, there is no reason to oppose Rabz’s usual mantra.

  155. val majkus

    oops on the other hand

    THE ABC’s claim to have reached a broadcasting deal in China “unmatched by any other Western media” has unravelled, after it signed what a Chinese government official described as a standard agreement.

    The public broadcaster signed a deal yesterday with China’s Shanghai Media Group to expand co-operation in drama and children’s programming, increase co-operation in the sharing of news and pave the way for the ABC to establish an online portal in China.

    A senior Chinese government official confirmed that the deal between ABC and SMG was a standard program co-operation and exchange deal. This is a significant departure from the ABC’s announcement in April that it had achieved an unprecedented deal that would put ABC content behind the firewall to reach millions of Chinese.

  156. Infidel Tiger

    Mike Carlton has the best Twitter feed in Australia.

    That is one angry, disturbed man. It’s hilarious and a must read for those who need pepping up.

  157. nic

    This is a significant departure from the ABC’s announcement in April that it had achieved an unprecedented deal that would put ABC content behind the firewall to reach millions of Chinese.

    I wonder what else was going on at the time the ABC made such an announcement? Surely not talk that their budget may be cut?

  158. egg_

    But we’ve agreed not to make more pictures of ABC execs shagging hamsters.

    Oh, so The Chaser boyz are reaching the twilight of their careers wherein they host Play School?

  159. nic

    Just looked at Mike Carlton’s twitter feed:

    Just seen the Telegraph’s editorial offering me an audition. Jesus, I’d rather suck Rupert’s dick (although there’d be a queue for that…)

    He’s not being homophobic is he or casting slurs at all? Jonah Hill added one more word to ensure the wrath of all progressives.

  160. egg_

    The public broadcaster signed a deal yesterday with China’s Shanghai Media Group to expand co-operation in drama and children’s programming, increase co-operation in the sharing of news and pave the way for the ABC to establish an online portal in China.

    If they were to get Chaser content, they’d think we’re into bestiality.

  161. dover_beach

    This one, D_B?

    Yes, thanks C_H. The comments are a hoot. Lots of Catholic-bashing.

  162. Tom

    Lord Wentworth’s 23-minute interview with Greenfilth campaigner Alan Jones is on soundcloud.

  163. .

    So this news article is 40 years old and ignores Irish economic history re: the trade war, autarky, loss of international shipping and loss of productive capacity and imports from the Commonwealth in WWII?

    Like I said it also ignores the fact if some of the kids were inbred, they would have a higher mortality rate than normal.

    Note this

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3053035/#!po=10.4167

    From Angela’s ashes to the Celtic tiger: Early life conditions and adult health in Ireland
    L Delaney, January 2011, Journal of Health Economics
    NCBI, US National Library of Health,NIH

    Pre WWII the infant mortality rate was 68 per 1000 live births (trending up during trade war and autarky), in WWII it spiked during the worst of the battle of the atlantic to 84 deaths per 1000 live births.

    Also note how the rate falls away with Ireland getting out of WWII autarky and with the introduction of penicillin. By the time this happened, the institutions basically shut down. This is probably because of growing widespread affluence. In the 1960s there was a free trade boom, in the 1970s and 1980s there was mass emigration.

    The only scandal we have any hard evidence on was the poor and distasteful method of burial.

  164. .

    Something I found when looking at Ireland

    https://www.tcd.ie/iiis/HNAG/Papers/GDP3REV2.R1W.pdf

    Note Table 6 p. 14.

    Australia was the wealthiest nation in the world for at least 40 years. We had nearly pure economic expansion. Mass immigration, rule of law, available land, low taxes, no green tape, minimal red tape, a gold standard and few external tariffs under the British Empire.

  165. Notafan

    Dot even the brief quotes in the Daily mail indicated at least one child with intellectual disabilities and another with a severe physical deformity.
    No money for coffins, grave diggers or burial plots, hardly surprising it was a shroud in a disused water tank.

  166. Snoopy

    The only scandal we have any hard evidence on was the poor and distasteful method of burial.

    You don’t think that gives any clue as to how they were regarded when alive?

  167. .

    The other day I was criticised for having a crystal ball. Now I’m being asked to read the minds of dead people.

    WTF do you people want?

  168. Demosthenes

    I assume that you forgot the /sarc tag there, Demosthenes?

    No. And now I’m genuinely puzzled. Are you arguing that the concerns of utility “death spirals” are overblown?

  169. Tom

    JC, how are you going working out which old Cat trolls are now using which new identities?

  170. Lysander

    JC, how are you going working out which old Cat trolls are now using which new identities?

    Easy; if they keep bringing up Vietnam you will know.

  171. Gab

    I get the impression Turnbull is just getting as many interviews as he can so he can remain in the spotlight. He’s on 7.30 tonight as well. Can’t recall the last time Turnbull was on that show. He really is making a mountain of a mole hole by dragging this dinner issue on for days long after the fact. His leadership challenge is probably just two polls away.

  172. johanna

    Demosthenes
    #1334374, posted on June 5, 2014 at 11:24 am

    I assume that you forgot the /sarc tag there, Demosthenes?

    No. And now I’m genuinely puzzled. Are you arguing that the concerns of utility “death spirals” are overblown?

    Why should I be concerned? Utilities will survive as long as they have … errr … utility. Which they will continue to do as long as greenfilth keep their thieving, lying paws off them.

  173. .

    What about if I say that the South Vietnamese didn’t want to join North Vietnam and were mercilessly slaughtered by “national liberationists”???

  174. .

    Gab
    #1334414, posted on June 5, 2014 at 11:49 am
    I get the impression Turnbull is just getting as many interviews as he can so he can remain in the spotlight. He’s on 7.30 tonight as well. Can’t recall the last time Turnbull was on that show. He really is making a mountain of a mole hole by dragging this dinner issue on for days long after the fact. His leadership challenge is probably just two polls away.

    The government might become more stable, but I fear for policy.

    He was a great white hope once to libertarians before his self made downfall. He made the right noises on economics. He met with some people from the LDP.

    Then he was very dismissive. We had nothing to offer him, he banned light bulbs etc.

    He did good in using Parliament to stop Rudd’s ETS. Then the Grech thing.

    I don’t know what to think, really.

    John Howard was a “lazarus with a quadruple bypass” so anything is possible.

    What I’m wondering is if he’ll win preselection again.

  175. Gab

    Oh that’s right, Abbott is out of the country so Turnbull’s making hay.

  176. Infidel Tiger

    He was a great white hope once to libertarians before his self made downfall.

    Haha! Remember when Catallaxy was all hot for Turnbull and – Obama?!

    Good times. There’s a reason the Cat archives only go back so far. It was blamed on a server crash, but we all know the real reason – SHAME.

    Turnbull comes from that great libertarian tradition of massive state owned media, light bulb bans and carbon fear mongering.

  177. johanna

    He was a great white hope once to libertarians before his self made downfall. He made the right noises on economics. He met with some people from the LDP.

    “making the right noises” is his speciality.

    Here’s the thing. The only thing that Malcolm cares about is Malcolm. His track record on that is 100%.

    That’s all you need to know about him – and I suspect that most of the Parliamentary Coalition is well aware of it.

    He’s just Rudd lite.

  178. .

    nic
    #1334328, posted on June 5, 2014 at 10:51 am
    Just looked at Mike Carlton’s twitter feed:

    Just seen the Telegraph’s editorial offering me an audition. Jesus, I’d rather suck Rupert’s dick (although there’d be a queue for that…)

    He’s not being homophobic is he or casting slurs at all? Jonah Hill added one more word to ensure the wrath of all progressives.

    Well they gave Jess Irvine a job.

    Better warm up those neck muscles, “Magic” Mike.

  179. .

    Good times. There’s a reason the Cat archives only go back so far. It was blamed on a server crash, but we all know the real reason – SHAME.

    Pretty sure I dumped him early. I didn’t support Obama but said his economic adviser would change his mind on things. I dumped him pretty soon too.

    I liked Palin. I wish she was the engineer, not the oil rag.

    Shame, shame, shame.

    …and I make no apologies for boosting Palin. Gotta zip!

  180. .

    Here’s the thing. The only thing that Malcolm cares about is Malcolm. His track record on that is 100%.

    We learned the hard way. I’ve said it before, he is like our Hilary.

    He has no allegiance. God knows where policy is going to go. It could literally go anywhere.

    I’d prefer Barnaby, if the backbench Liberals could get over themselves.

    That would make Sharman Stone’s head pop for sure. So it would be worth it.

    Barnaby as PM negotiating with Day and Leyonhjelm?

  181. john constantine

    the abc midday news is gloating, and broadcasting that ‘some say that there is disunity among tony abbotts party’.

  182. Infidel Tiger

    I love Barnabus, but he’d be a terrible PM.

    We’d have a tariff wall that attracted tourists after he was finished. He’s sound on most things except free trade.

  183. Infidel Tiger

    Maybe Tony and Malcolm can stage a photo opportunity where they look at an electoral map?

  184. .

    That’s what the Senate is for, IT. To drive some sense into his practical mind.

  185. dover_beach

    It is a badge of honour that I remained steadfast in the face of the Cat’s Turbullian and Obamite phase. God bless CL and IT for their faithfulness too.

  186. john constantine

    graincorp announces project regeneration, a 200 million spend/rationalisation aimed at returning a million tonnes of grain to rail from road.

    the squandering of graincorp wealth on pointless overseas aquisitions, aimed to preserve graincorp management is now revealed to have a cost–this should have been done a decade ago.

  187. Gab

    Just listening to Malcolm Turnbull giving the ABC a slobbering tonguebath. Had to stop and take a breather. He raves on about the importance of having this national broadcaster but gives no justification other than to say “regional ares”, as if regional areas have absolutely no access to any other airwaves. And if it is only serving a regional purpose, as Malcolm claims, then $1 billion per year is an awful lot of expense just to service regional areas. I thought Turnbull was also a businessman, clearly he’s not very good at that when it comes to spending other people’s money.

  188. .

    The ABC and SBS are obsolete and should be given away or sold for salvage value.

  189. Sinclair Davidson

    Remember when Catallaxy was all hot for Turnbull and – Obama?!

    You’re obviously mentally ill comrade. We’ll have to lock you up, for your own benefit of course, and electrocute you back to sanity and a better understanding of the approved history.

  190. twostix

    I get the impression Turnbull is just getting as many interviews as he can so he can remain in the spotlight

    Abbott should fire him. Not least of all because of his pathetic uselessness re the NBN and ABC.

  191. Gab

    Good Lord, Malcolm is still giving a thorough tongue bath to his ABC. I need to towel down and have a post-coital cigarette before I can continue listening to him on Jones’s show.

  192. johanna

    Gab, even if you accept the “regional areas” argument – and in fact it is only remote areas that do not have good access to alternatives via the interwebs – it would cost a poofteenth of the ABC’s current budget to service them adequately in terms of broadcasting.

  193. twostix

    What has turnbull actually achieved with the NBN?

  194. blogstrop

    electrocute you back to sanity and a better understanding of the approved history.

    Wrong Thinking is what the Chinese set up camps to combat.

  195. Infidel Tiger

    It is a badge of honour that I remained steadfast in the face of the Cat’s Turbullian and Obamite phase. God bless CL and IT for their faithfulness too.

    Oh the barbs and arrows we endured!

    Having John McCain as the alternative didn’t make it easy, but we stood fast.

    The closest I have ever come to political idiocy was supporting Fightback and John Hewson*. I still believe it was the best policy we never had, championed by a bloke I’m glad we never had.

    * I was too young to vote anyway, so I am off the hook.

  196. Gab

    That’s what I was getting at, Johanna. Everyone seems to understand that argument but Malcolm and Abbott appears to be more concerned about “team unity” than actually doing what is best for this country – like relieving of the burden for paying the billions that go into keeping this ABC ever-expanding conglomerate alive.

  197. incoherent rambler

    Could 18C be used against the ABC and SBS?
    For constant vilification of conservatives and hurtful offence that they cause to conservative politicians and voters?
    Clearly, they are targeting this minority group with slander and negative stereotyping.

  198. incoherent rambler

    I should have said “offence caused to conservative culture

  199. Token

    I thought Turnbull was also a businessman, clearly he’s not very good at that when it comes to spending other people’s money.

    When has Turnbull ran a business? His money making via Ozemail is due to his ability to build a company at the right time of the right type which rich morons in a corporate will pay 100s of times over the odds to buy.

    He then cashed out at the right time leaving the shareholders of the poor company to take a bath. The purchase of Ozemail proportionally destroyed as much wealth as the AOL Time Warner take over.

    All up, he like Palmer have an insiders ability to buy/sell, but not manage.

  200. Token

    …and in fact it is only remote areas that do not have good access to alternatives via the interwebs – it would cost a poofteenth of the ABC’s current budget to service them adequately in terms of broadcasting.

    Imagine the interwebs we could provide the country areas if we sold off all but 1 of the radio & TV licenses the ABC / SBS are holding onto and used the funds to provide wireless / satellite services to remove areas only.

    Of course, Lord Wentworth project the idea that country people need Radio National to pay presenters over $250K to regurgitate the Glow-ball Warming cult messages…

  201. Token

    Could 18C be used against the ABC and SBS?

    In the lefty world where unelected judges get to dictate the acceptable culture mores via devine fiat, I don’t like your chances of getting a learned type who actually believes in the spirit (rather than the letter) of that or any other law.

  202. Gab

    Malcolm tried to sell the idea that the Medicare co-payment was being proposed to pay down the debt Labor left us with however I was under the impression that the co-payment was to be used for a medical research fund. What’s the story then?

  203. Lysander

    Abbott should fire him. Not least of all because of his pathetic uselessness re the NBN and ABC.

    Abbott made a stupid decision in even appointing him as Minister for Comms. He knows he loves the ABC and the ABC loves him. He should give the Comms portfolio to Morrison!

    Turn back the gloats.

  204. I should have said “offence caused to conservative culture“

    Classic oxymoron.
    A culture is a medium for growth.
    Conservatism resists growth.

  205. Gab

    He should give the Comms portfolio to Morrison! Turn back the gloats.

    hahahaha. Love it.

  206. Senile Old Guy

    Malcolm tried to sell the idea that the Medicare co-payment was being proposed to pay down the debt Labor left us with however I was under the impression that the co-payment was to be used for a medical research fund.

    That was still the story yesterday.

    What’s the story then?

    They do not have a clue what they are doing?

    The story on what is happening with universities changes every day and depends on who is talking. It’s a shambles and every sign is that, like some other things, it was thought up at the last moment.

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