Tuesday Forum: June 3, 2014

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  1. Grigory M

    (Alfred was an early ‘hygienist’ re sea bathing)

    Alfred?

    Prince Albert believed that sea bathing was beneficial to health, and a bathing machine was installed at Osborne in 1846 at his request, so that Victoria could enjoy the waters.

    Queen Victoria at Osborne Beach

  2. egg_

    The claimed sighting by Marc Horn of a plane he believed may have been MH-370 doesn’t imply that the Inmarsat data was fabricated. The position and reported southerly course were consistent with the Inmarsat tracking* and with the radar and passive tracking information later released by the Malaysians.
    Of course, the reported fire is a major inconsistency. If the plane was “glowing orange” and trailing a huge plume of black smoke, it could not have continued south for many hours. Perhaps that part of the yachtsman’s observations were in error- a misinterpretation.
    An interesting point is that he observed a number of aircraft at higher altitude, confirming clear conditions for imaging by the TIROS-N satellite that would have passed over (north to south) at about 7:30am local time.

    Many “nuts & bolts” scenarios are possible.
    Looking “top down” the key issues were: a) location of the wreckage and b) closure for the relatives.
    The (top down) narrative took an inconsistent course following RR talking to the press about location information in the first few days.
    Issue management – my guess is that around this stage, Boeing were directing operations from back stage and hence the 24 hour gap before the Malaysian politicians made any announcements to the press.

    *Total tosh – happy for the full data, including earth station logs, to be tabled for examination.
    All academic, as they won’t and the wreck won’t be located.

  3. Rabz

    Once again, it is a salutory lesson to consider the utterly disagraceful behaviour of the ALPBC and its drooling lickspittles in this quite abominable matter – not to mention that taxpayers will no doubt be footing a sizable bill for the unacceptable refusal of the ALPBC to immediately recant this repulsive, nightmarish idiocy.

    As I’ve observed before – if those unfunny onanists had pulled that kind of a stunt on me they’d still be enjoying a “well earned break” in an intensive care ward.

    The ALPBC is, quite simply, out of control. Turnbull must be sacked, expelled from the Liberal Party and the Mantra™ immediately invoked with a vengeance.

    Enough, FFS.

  4. calli

    Lizzie got her Alberts and Alfreds mixed up (father and son).

    For Cats who enjoy a little history, here is a snippet of a royal visit, and the result.

  5. Backstory on the US Army’s mishandling of Private (correction, Sergeant) Bergdahl’s defection to the Taliban.

  6. C.L.

    Eric Holder sets up special group to counter extremists – the Domestic Terrorism Executive Committee. Target: Republicans.

    “We must also concern ourselves with the continued danger we face from individuals within our own borders who may be motivated by a variety of other causes from anti-government animus to racial prejudice,” Holder said.

  7. pete m

    suck it up chaser wankers.

  8. Grigory M

    Lizzie got her Alberts and Alfreds mixed up

    Predictive text or iPad-itis, I thought.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle

    Delingpole fisks a letter.

    There’s something very strange going on in our civilization when nutters like that lot are believed so readily.

  10. Token

    suck it up chaser wankers.

    Now it effects them watch the Chaser children to pathetically try on all the free speech arguments they recently laughed and called racist

  11. john constantine

    so the abc has learned now not to mock tories by calling them dogfuckers.

    the abc will from now on broadcast

    “some say that tories are dogfuckers, and show these pictures on social media”

    —the relentless use of the “some say” loophole so the abc can slander and editorialise is embedded in their groupthink.

  12. Gab

    The government says that fracking is safe even though it is banned in several European countries and US states. There is substantial evidence showing that fracking causes water stress risks water contamination and soil contamination, earth tremors – and is a threat to human, wildlife, bird, fish and livestock health. This technology will not bring down fuel bills and will not provide a jobs boom, but it has the potential to leave a damaging environmental legacy for future generations.

    Heavens, Bruce, so many lies in just one short paragraph!

  13. nic

    From the nannies at the SMH:

    Forget about “stop the boats’. It’s time, please, to “turn back the bogans”. This is the unavoidable conclusion after watching the first two episodes of What Really Happens in Bali, the Seven Network’s new no-holds-barred documentary series narrated by comedian Corrine Grant. It promises to expose the island’s tourism underbelly, and succeeds.

    In just two, albeit excellently-made, installments of the series, the producers, for the first time, manage to showcase the full horror of the Australian let loose in Bali: methanol poisoning,

    rampant unsafe sex

    , drug criminals on death row, epic drunkenness, general reckless and uncouth behaviour and gormlessness in epidemic proportions.

    http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-essentials/travel-news/turn-back-the-bogans-what-really-happens-in-bali-exposes-australians-at-their-worst-20140603-39ghm.html

  14. Tom

    TONY Abbott has admonished Clive Palmer for his sexist attack on his chief of staff, Peta Credlin, warning “blokes around this place have learnt to underestimate women at their peril”.

    Mr Palmer has repeatedly refused to apologise for his claims that Ms Credlin wields “undue influence” over the Prime Minister, engineering the Coalition’s paid parental leave policy so she could “receive a massive benefit when she gets pregnant”.

    Ms Credlin, who already enjoys a generous leave entitlement as a commonwealth employee, has struggled to conceive through IVF.

    The incident, and the muted response by feminist commentators, has sparked debate about alleged double-standards applied to conservative women targeted with sexist comments.

    Mr Abbott, who hired Ms Credlin after supporting paid parental leave, this morning said: “Well, I think that blokes around this place have learnt to underestimate women at their peril. I just make that general observation.

    “The other observation that I make is that the gentleman in question does not understand the Coalition’s policy. The Coalition policy is designed to ensure that all Australian women have access to the kind of paid parental leave that commonwealth public servants — including the women in my office, including the women in Mr Palmer’s office — have long had.

    “So, before he goes out and attacks people he really ought to understand the policy and he doesn’t.”

    Assistant Infrastructure Minister Jamie Briggs this morning criticised prominent feminists, including Labor Senate leader Penny Wong, for failing to quickly and wholeheartedly condemn Mr Palmer’s remarks.

  15. Bruce

    Well we can all take comfort from the fact that the alleged comedian ,Grant,would always be safe from any threat of “rampant unsafe sex” or any other sex,safe or unsafe for that matter in Bali or anywhere else.You wouldn’t fuck her for a bet.

  16. incoherent rambler

    The feeds from the MSM is like a WW2 daily pamphlet drop.

  17. nic

    I’m no fan of Bogans, but the constant sneering from their ‘social betters’ gets on my goat. Maybe there are a few know-it all progressives I’d like to ban too. But then again, such fascist thoughts are only the preserve of the right. /sarc.

  18. Gab

    has sparked debate about alleged double-standards applied to conservative women targeted with sexist comments.

    Alleged? Oh please.

  19. john constantine

    here is clear and present proof that the lefties don’t have feminists.

    the left have socialists that just happen to also be female, and can use being female to attack non-socialists that happen to be male.

    that is why the wymynsys are silent. their radar is attuned to offences against socialism, and the chance to ‘gotcha’ the great abbottbeast. if wymynsys don’t hear those excuses, they hear nothing, just keep scanning for their opportunity to be offended and erupt into volcanic emotion, FOR THE CAUSE.

  20. pete m

    Listening to ABC news and commentary is enough to turn me to anarchy. Just a constant feed of green left weekly talking points.

  21. Baldrick

    Assistant Infrastructure Minister Jamie Briggs this morning criticised prominent feminists, including Labor Senate leader Penny Wong, for failing to quickly and wholeheartedly condemn Mr Palmer’s remarks.

    Seriously, you can’t expected the Wong chap et al. to come out and criticise Skywhale for his comments. It’s not the ’cause’ that’s important, but the ‘side’.

  22. nic

    Seriously, you can’t expected the Wong chap et al. to come out and criticise Skywhale for his comments.

    Clive’s got a better rack than she does. Rock scissors, paper.

  23. the left have socialists that just happen to also be female, and can use being female to attack non-socialists that happen to be male.

    Oh yeah, hammer meet nail.
    I have clear recollection – as if it were yesterday – of a long piece written by some lefty female columnist about why bitter opposition to Pauline Hanson was “the only possibly feminist position”.
    Pauline Hanson, female, started her own political party, female, getting more press and airtime devoted to her than any elected politician in the nation, female, at the centre of the nation’s affairs, female, having more impact on government policy than was the opposition, female, at a state election one in four queenslanders voted for her party….
    … and “feminists” were hell-bent upon closing down the most successful female politician in Australia’s history.
    Feminists……. riiiiiiiiight, sure they are!

  24. Notafan

    No rampant unsafe sex and drunken hooliganism where the children of the upper classes holiday is there?

    The peasants are revolting (and under the control of murdoch666) according to to the goats cheese circling classes.

  25. Baldrick

    Clive’s got a better rack than she does. Rock scissors, paper.

    … and Dolly Shorten trumps them all!

  26. harrys on the boat

    The Member for Lard is a complete fucking tool and we know the hypocrisy of the socialist bints. However I’m not going to get too precious over a lame comment and become hysterical like the Emily List sluts over another “misogyny” issue.

    Thanks to the lying slapper misogyny is becoming the most abused word in the English language.

  27. Des Deskperson

    ‘..the reputation of some of our tourists is deterring other nationalities from around the world visiting there’

    Given the behaviour of German and Russian tourists (in particular) in Vietnam, I find this hard to believe.

  28. .

    “blokes around this place have learnt to underestimate women at their peril”.

    This is sexist?

    No. Credlin has read Efflers and Greene. Per laws 6 and 12. She is probably failing laws 1 and 3.

    It’s a goddamned compliment in their game. Palmer thinks Credlin is formidable.

  29. johanna

    No hint of the forthcoming apology to Kenny on the ABC news website.

    Looks like they’re “disappearing” it before it even happens.

    Of the current Top Ten stories in the sidebar:

    Five are negative reports about conservative governments/politicians
    Two are international news
    Plus one each on Rolf Harris’ trial, Tianamen Square, and football.

  30. C.L.

    drug criminals … epic drunkenness, general reckless and uncouth behaviour and gormlessness in epidemic proportions …

    Sounds like an ALP national conference.

  31. nic

    No hint of the forthcoming apology to Kenny on the ABC news website.

    So they won’t be sending four staff to interview Kenny?

  32. C.L.

    London to a brick the ABC apology will be heavily padded with pseudo-exculpatory clauses, ‘both sides to blame’ weasel words etc.

  33. Leo G

    … and “feminists” were hell-bent upon closing down the most successful female politician in Australia’s history.
    Feminists……. riiiiiiiiight, sure they are!

    Femunists?

  34. C.L.

    This has been happening for years…

    Buy a decent damned plane already.

    Abbott’s plane grounded ahead of talks with Indonesian president.

  35. incoherent rambler

    Clive seems to have shored up Credlin’s position in the Liberal Party as they rally around, defending her on all fronts.

    Smart move from Clive. He realizes that Credlin is a significant asset, for PUP.

  36. C.L.

    I cannot believe the infamously corrupt Victorian Labor Party is seriously going to expel a member of Parliament for supposedly misusing his car.

    Oh hang on. Yes I can.

  37. Baldrick

    Paul Barry @TheRealPBarry
    Chris Kenny wins damages, costs and apology from ABC for the dog skit.

    Paul Barry obviously can’t see what all the fuss is about. It’s only a ‘skit’, and a skit is defined as:
    - a gibe or taunt, a joke or prank.
    Ohh see, it’s only a prank and for that Kenny wins damages, costs and an apology. How dare he!

  38. .

    Regarding the 48 laws of power and the Credlin criticisms:

    Clive is observing laws 21, 26, 34, 37, especially 39 and 42 and 43 and maybe a little of law 45.

  39. Mr Rusty

    Given the behaviour of German and Russian tourists (in particular) in Vietnam, I find this hard to believe.

    If I were Vietnam the last people I would be letting into my country would be Germans and Russians.
    That lot slaughtered more Commies between them than the Allies did, by many orders of magnitude.

  40. dover_beach

    From Fr. Z:

    This dovetails well with the next item, from CWN and Phil Lawler:

    A happy epilogue for the Cold War

    One of the most enduring visual images of the Cold War—one of the early signs that the Soviet empire was doomed —was the sight of General Wojciech Jaruzelski, the Polish strongman, literally shaking as he addressed the enormous crowd that gathered to greet St. John Paul II on his triumphant return to his homeland.

    Make no mistake about it; Jaruzelski was a formidable enemy of the Catholic Church. With his Soviet comrades watching over his shoulder, he launched a harsh crackdown on the Solidarity movement. He was responsible for the imprisonment of hundreds of human-rights activists. He probably gave the order for troops to fire on striking workers, killing several; he may well have approved the brutal murder of Blessed Jerzy Popieluszko, the “Solidarity priest” who was bludgeoned to death in 1984. But Jaruzelski was also a realist, and when the Pope arrived in Poland, the general knew in his heart that he was overmatched. As indeed he was —not only by the man, but by the spiritual force the Pontiff represented.

    General Jaruzelski lost the battle for Poland, of course. But for years he kept fighting another battle: to justify his leadership, to rationalize the decisions he made while he held power. Shortly before his death last week he surrendered that battle as well. Before he lost consciousness, Reuters reports, Jaruzelski “asked a Catholic priest to administer the last rites.” No longer an atheist, no longer an enemy; Wojciech Jaruzelski died a Catholic.

    God’s ways are not our ways. Our strength is not His strength. He chooses the least likely to do great things. His timeline is a mystery.

  41. Paul Barry @TheRealPBarry
    Chris Kenny wins damages, costs and apology from ABC for the dog skit.

    Not the Chris Kenny skit, or
    the Chris Kenny insult, or
    the dog-rooting skit, or
    the segment implying Chris Kenny enjoys participating in bestiality, or
    the short piece depicting Christ Kenny raping man’s best friend.

  42. C.L.

    … Wojciech Jaruzelski died a Catholic.

    Wonderful!

    Deo gratias.

  43. Mr Rusty

    Canada bans government meteorologists from talking about climate change.

    This interesting piece was linked in the Dellingpole article. Throws up some interesting questions regarding freedom of speech. There is also this little gem that we desperately need here;

    Canadian law states that no more than 10 per cent of a non-profit’s proceeds can be used for political advocacy.

  44. Grigory M

    No hint of the forthcoming apology to Kenny on the ABC news website.

    Looks like they’re “disappearing” it before it even happens.

    No surprise. It will be broadcast as required by the settlement – but around 9.00pm, well outside the evening news time, with no other attention being drawn to it – and from then on there will be nothing about it on their ABC.

  45. Lysander

    Wojciech Jaruzelski died a Catholic.

    Wow! That says something!

  46. … Wojciech Jaruzelski died a Catholic.
    Wow! That says something!

    I think y’all have been focusing on the wrong part of the message.

  47. WhaleHunt Fun

    Hilarity from the Australian today page 13 where they quote the ever quotable Mike “I’ll pour the gin” Carlton as saying “global warming denialists ignore the great body of world scientific opinion…”
    The thought that scientific facts show no warming for 17 years is irrelevant, it’s all about Leftard opinions with the gin pourer, facts count for nothing.

  48. .

    Jaruzelski should be held in the same regard as Saddam Hussein and Caucescau. I have no sympathy for him.

    We don’t have to confer god’s grace to oppressive, worthless sacks of crap.

    “His strength is not our strength”… as they say in church circles.

  49. Bear Necessities

    http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/6310.0Main+Features1August%202013?OpenDocument

    The stats for Trade Union membership are in and it is not pretty for Union bosses.

    Total Private/Public Membership has dropped from 18% to 17% of workforce.
    Private Sector memberhip has dropped from 13% to 12%.
    Public Sector membership is at 42%.

    How incompetent are these bosses? They get the legislation they wanted, the institutions stacked with union cronies and they still lose membership!

    I’m just glad they don’t run the country. Just wait.. they just did.

  50. .

    Reverse racism happens. People suffer because of affirmative action. True.

    Progressive policies usually fail. Socialism doesn’t work.

    Ironically in this example, neither do tariffs etc. They make people worse off.

    I’ll even give a pass that sometimes, out of the mouths of non white bigots, anti racism may be anti white. Yes, Asian countries can be terribly racist. I ask you, who wants to emigrate to Liberia?

    If anyone doubts the APP is racist, have a look at this:

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=743637278991106&id=177549992266507

    Immigration is not genocidal.

    Diversity is “white genocide”?

    These guys are nuts.

  51. egg_

    “global warming denialists ignore the great body of world scientific opinion…”

    Fashions change – even for the lab coat wearers – it was chaos maths, the Mandelbrot set and a butterfly’s wing flap causing a tornado in the Amazon or summut – remember; don’t fret, the trekkies will have a shiny new object to play with pretty soon.
    More gin, anyone?

  52. egg_

    Smart move from Clive. He realizes that Credlin is a significant asset, for PUP.

    Da misogyny works in mysterious ways. ;)
    Blue tie, Clive?

  53. C.L.

    We don’t have to confer god’s grace to oppressive, worthless sacks of crap.

    What a bizarre statement.

    Nobody is beyond redemption. That is the essence of the Gospels.

  54. C.L.

    Doc Neeson dead at 67.

    In his hey-day, he was the coolest looking rocker in the world.

  55. pete m

    C.L.
    #1332769, posted on June 4, 2014 at 10:38 am
    London to a brick the ABC apology will be heavily padded with pseudo-exculpatory clauses, ‘both sides to blame’ weasel words etc.

    Given this was a lawyer worked out deal, I bet CK’s lawyers had a hand in the wording and I very much doubt he or his lawyers would have been happy with the sort of apology they usually try to get away with. Expect to be surprised.

  56. Nobody is beyond redemption. That is the essence of the Gospels.

    I’m a touch at odds with the gospels there. Will look up sme hadiths, see if there’s any better guidance there.

  57. C.L.

    The Victorian Governor should intervene to prevent the expulsion of Shaw from Parliament.

    It is a criminal outrage for them to disenfranchise voters and aggrandise themselves so transparently over the laughable issue of a misused car.

  58. Given this was a lawyer worked out deal, I bet CK’s lawyers had a hand in the wording and I very much doubt he or his lawyers would have been happy with the sort of apology they usually try to get away with. Expect to be surprised.

    Yair. They’re giving the apology awful easy, and mitigating that by running it when absolutely nobody with a brain will be watching, so it is extremely likely the wording of the apology has had to be pre-approved by Mr. Kenny.

  59. .

    I’m only concerned with temporal matters C.L. regarding dead dictators.

    Spiritual matters are personal.

  60. Lysander

    Nobody is beyond redemption. That is the essence of the Gospels.

    Even Kerry O’Brien.

  61. C.L.

    Dot, redemption doesn’t mean getting off the hook in this life.

    See the Good Thief.

    Jaruzelski deserved all the punishments he suffered, temporally.

    We all do.

  62. dover_beach

    Even him Lysander. Even him.

  63. Spiritual matters are personal.

    I’m just glad he’s dead. I’m not interested in which imaginary friend he was talking to in the garden before he went.

  64. C.L.

    Thanks for the Gillardian take, Steve.

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    Quotable quote from Hockey just now:

    Our miners are exporting their socks off and thank God!

    I bet this doesn’t get airplay from ABC’s kolkhozniks in tonight’s news.

  66. Thanks for the Gillardian take, Steve.

    Don’t follow.
    But I’m pretty non-discriminatory in this area, i.e. I’ll feel the same way when Gillard pops off – with the added bonus of knowing that the taxpayer is no longer up for hundreds of thousands each year to support the ditched witch.

  67. Our miners are exporting their socks off and thank God!

    I bet this doesn’t get airplay from ABC’s kolkhozniks in tonight’s news.

    Not unless they can twist it into:
    “Hockey says God is on the side of Gina Rinehart and her fellow big miners.”

  68. C.L.

    Commoners are caught in the rain.

    Colour co-ordinated Her Majesty is prepared for anything.

  69. calli

    Nobody is beyond redemption. That is the essence of the Gospels.

    Amen to that.

  70. Nobody is beyond redemption. That is the essence of the Gospels.

    Forgiveness is for God to decide.
    I’m just glad that communsits are dead. Shame it wasn’t 50 years earlier and a whole lot more interactive.

  71. .

    Fair enough C.L.

    I’d say other parables about forgiveness are applicable. He was put into Soviet slavery and his decisions at a young age were compromised.

  72. Token

    Even Kerry O’Brien.

    He’s too involved in the trade of Indulgences in the Church of Climate Hoo-ey, so doesn’t see the need to reflect and ask for forgiveness.

    You can bet he’s the slimy type to think he can dodge the consequences of his actions by trying a death bed repentence.

  73. Lysander

    He’s too involved in the trade of Indulgences in the Church of Climate Hoo-ey, so doesn’t see the need to reflect and ask for forgiveness.

    Who knows what Red Kerry got up to with Whitlam. (Continuing the theological line) it will all be revealed.

  74. Fisky

    Before he lost consciousness, Reuters reports, Jaruzelski “asked a Catholic priest to administer the last rites.” No longer an atheist, no longer an enemy; Wojciech Jaruzelski died a Catholic.

    THR would be furiously angry to read that.

  75. Aristogeiton

    C.L.
    #1332882, posted on June 4, 2014 at 12:01 pm
    We don’t have to confer god’s grace to oppressive, worthless sacks of crap.

    What a bizarre statement.

    Nobody is beyond redemption. That is the essence of the Gospels.

    The essence of the Gospels is “be yourself”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rQOJuUh7-8

  76. john constantine

    http://www.iflscience.com/

    the ifl facetwit page informs us that two female/one male ivf will be available within two years, combining information from two women with one male.

    with full political correctness, the progressive site looks at the possibility of curing one womans genetic risk by combining her egg with a healthier egg.

    –we can all see the thundering herds of lesbians raising dustclouds in a stampede to have a baby with genetic information from both mothers.

    funny how given a choice between identity being chosen, not allocated genetically, and having their own genetic kid, the lesbians will choose facts and science over political slogans.

  77. Infidel Tiger

    The Homo Police are more efficient than their Nazi forebears.

    Jonah Hill forced to issue an apology for a “gay slur”. What a poof. Never apologise to fascists.

    http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/jonah-hill-apologises-for-gay-slur-20140604-zrx9a.html

  78. Helen

    Climate change to come up at G20: Abbott

    Obumma bowl licker

  79. .

    So a papparazo scumbag makes a snide gay slur and Hill made an explicit one back.

    He is just being monstered by the media who never think of themselves as accountable for anything.

  80. blogstrop

    ABC radio The World Today interviews somebody from the Lowy Institute who says Australian are increasingly concerned about climate change.

  81. Token

    Nice summary of this clusterf*(k:

    Whether Bergdahl was taken by the enemy, deserted the army or defected to the Taliban remains to be established. But just to be clear where the former operator is coming from, Article 85 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice states: “Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offence is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.”

    But wait: We are not “in time of war.” We are in Time of Obama.

    In Time of Obama, dereliction of duty is heroism, releasing mass murderers with American blood on their hands is a good way to start a peace process, negotiating with terrorists is not negotiating with terrorists, and exchanging senior Taliban commanders for a lone American soldier is not an incentive to take other Americans hostage but rather proof that the US brings its people home.

    In Time of Obama, we may get the facts about the circumstances of Bergdahl’s disappearance and captivity. But first his parents are going to get an invitation to the White House so President Barack Obama can milk the occasion for his own political purposes. First Bergdahl will be welcomed home by General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. First “senior defence officials” are going to prejudge a potential verdict by a military court because, as one such official averred, “five years is enough”.

    …“Frankly, we don’t give a shit why he left,” the late journalist Michael Hastings quoted one White House official on the subject of Bergdahl’s potential desertion in a June 2012 story in Rolling Stone. “He’s an American soldier. We want to bring him home.”

  82. Token

    …interviews somebody from the Lowy Institute …

    It is amazing how fast that think tank has worked to make itself irrelevant. Who quotes it on any topic these day except for when they need a comment on Glimate Change?

  83. Helen

    Oie Oie Oie Both Historic Hi tech, the Queen will never want to get out of it!

    Queen ready to ride in Aussie-built coach

  84. Queen ready to ride in Aussie-built coach

    Only one spelling error in the linked article.
    Not bad for modern journalism.

  85. Infidel Tiger

    Budget horror!

    Growth bounces back to 3.5%pa.

    Imagine what could happen if those arseclowns cut taxes, red tape and public servants heads off.

  86. nic

    Jonah Hill forced to issue an apology for a “gay slur”. What a poof. Never apologise to fascists.

    A slur such as someone takes it up the khyber? Oh wait…

  87. dover_beach

    The Homo Police are more efficient than their Nazi forebears.

    Indeed. National Organization for Marriage sued by Maine over 2009 referendum:

    The Maine Commission on Governmental Ethics and Election Practices found that the National Organization for Marriage violated campaign finance laws by failing to properly register as a ballot question committee and file financial reports in the 2009 referendum that struck down gay marriage. Same-sex unions were legalized by voters in 2012.

    The commission also ruled that the organization must file a campaign finance report, which would force it to disclose the names of its donors.

    The National Organization for Marriage has fought for years to keep its donor list secret, saying doing so would put its contributors at risk for harassment and intimidation.

  88. Bruce of Newcastle

    Lowy Institute are pretty good. You are shooting the messenger. The problem is most people have the brains of fruit bats and the Left have been saying woe woe so long some of it has penetrated.

    Lowy mostly concern themselves with foreign affairs, which is a good thing given how awful most of the countries in the East behave.

  89. nic

    ABC to issue rare on-air apology

    It means to suggest that such an apology is special, when the reality is that they normally apologise for nothing.

  90. Des Deskperson

    ‘Public Sector [union] membership is at 42%.’

    It’s interesting to note that membership of the ‘Commonwealth’ branch of the Community and Public Sector Union (CPSU) declined from 100,000 in 1994 to around 55,000 now, even though the overall numbers of ‘Commonwealth’ public servants, although it fluctuated, is now around the same now as then.

    My understanding is that these 55,000 includes the highly unionised ACT public service (around 20,000 employees) as well as organisations like CSIRO, so if we are looking at the APS, we are probably down to about 30%, union membership, even if you count the other APS unions like whatever the Clerks Union in Tax calls itself these days and the few professional associations.

    It’s also interesting to note from the ABS figures (though perhaps hardly surprising), that in the public sector, employees in the Education and training industry had the highest proportion of trade union membership.

  91. .

    If they give the public what they want regarding boats…why not taxes and spending?

  92. C.L.

    Interesting that John Howard – appearing with Hawke at the Press Club – praised Ian Sinclair as the best leader of Opposition business in the House he ever saw. And he made clear that Sinkers was one ruthless son of a bitch.

  93. Infidel Tiger

    Ian Sinclair was terrific.

    He had gravitas, so those feral lefty swines were shit scared of him – on both sides.

  94. Ian Sinclair was terrific.
    He had gravitas, so those feral lefty swines were shit scared of him – on both sides.

    He was however a greasy germ. It was immoral to vote for him.

  95. Token

    Lowy mostly concern themselves with foreign affairs, which is a good thing given how awful most of the countries in the East behave.

    I used to pay attention to their reports on foreign affairs but stopped when I got tired of the documents having to do the Green-cult’s version of the welcome to country country ceremony.

  96. Baldrick

    More bad news for the economy:

    Sky News Australia
    #BREAKING: The Fair Work Commission has increased the minimum wage to $640.90 per week or $16.87 per hour.

  97. Grigory M

    Well, that’s interesting – Wilkie has just asked Hockey if Supply is blocked will he re-cast the Budget or take it to an election?

  98. Aristogeiton

    jupes
    #1333111, posted on June 4, 2014 at 2:22 pm
    FMD

    Unbelievable.

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/bodies-of-800-children-longdead-found-in-septic-tank-at-former-irish-home-for-unwed-mothers-20140604-zrwtz.html

    Fuck me dead. The coverage is a disgrace:

    The grim findings, which are being investigated by police, provide a glimpse into a particularly dark time for unmarried pregnant women in Ireland, where societal and religious mores stigmatised them. Without means to support themselves, women by the hundreds wound up at the Home. “When daughters became pregnant, they were ostracised completely,” Ms Corless said. “Families would be afraid of neighbours finding out, because to get pregnant out of marriage was the worst thing on Earth. It was the worst crime a woman could commit, even though a lot of the time it had been because of a rape.”

    A crime worse than infanticide?

  99. Ian Sinclair was terrific.
    He had gravitas, so those feral lefty swines were shit scared of him – on both sides.

    The Cattlemen’s Union thought so much of Sinclair they voted at an AGM in favour of a motion of No Confidence in him.
    The resolution stands to this day, as the membership never rescinded the No Confidence motion.

    The No Confidence in Ian Sinclair motion was well deserved.

  100. cynical1

    Sad news with the passing today of “Doc” Neeson.

    Another rocker from my youth warns of how quickly time flies…

  101. H B Bear

    The Green-Left Weekly Radio Hour (Lunch time edition) formerly known as The World Today go full retard as the ALPBC media arm winds up, naturally Tubbsie is up first,

    CHRISTINE MILNE: It is clear that this, the Indonesians continue to see towing back the boats into their waters as an attack on their sovereignty and their right and there is no way that Tony Abbott can dress this up as anything else except a deteriorating relationship.

    then Tits says there is a problem but forgets the cause,

    … The relationship before Mr Abbott was Prime Minister was good. The relationship is not so good now. It is long overdue that some repair work is done on our relationship with Indonesia.

    and finally the voice of reason, Adam Bandt,

    LOUISE YAXLEY: … The Greens deputy leader Adam Bandt says his party’s happy if it results in a double dissolution.

    ADAM BANDT: If people want an early election then it can still happen if the Government’s brutal measures are blocked in the Senate and that is something that the Greens are up for.

    And finally another word from Tubbsie … but I think we have heard enough.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Sky News Australia
    #BREAKING: The Fair Work Commission has increased the minimum wage to $640.90 per week or $16.87 per hour.

    Unless they have a proven employment history, you can not employ them at that rate.

  103. jupes

    John McCain came from a different generation of POWs than Bergdal. For a start they didn’t end up as a POW because they deserted. Then there’s this (from Wiki):

    In mid-1968, John S. McCain, Jr. was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and the North Vietnamese offered McCain early release[44] because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[45] and also to show other POWs that elite prisoners were willing to be treated preferentially.[44] McCain turned down the offer; he would only accept repatriation if every man taken in before him was released as well.

    Regarding Bergdal, McCain points out the bleeding obvious.

    “There’s some really damning things about the reaction of the military on this.”

    Indeed.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/john-mccain-bowe-berghdal-107331.html

  104. Bruce of Newcastle

    I got tired of the documents having to do the Green-cult’s version of the welcome to country country ceremony

    Token – You have to spika-de-language of the political class. During RGR this was the required ritual. I have some inside knowledge. Walter Russell Mead, who I’ve met, is a fan of Lowy Institute.

    One needs to do what is necessary to survive during interregnums.

  105. #BREAKING: The Fair Work Commission has increased the minimum wage to $640.90 per week or $16.87 per hour.

    Unless they have a proven employment history, you can not employ them at that rate.

    I’ve learned some hard lessons from the Fair Work Commission.
    Consequently I no longer give any quarter. I’m now very brutal.

    If an employee is marginal (definition of “marginal” = if I’m even thinking about it, then they are “marginal”) then they are sacked without notice, reason, or explanation on the day before they cross into becoming eligible for unfair dismissal protection (i.e. 6 months employment)

    (For those who are completely mentally challenged) this means 5 months and 29 days into the job, they are called into the office and given an envelope of termination paperwork – separation certificate etc. and told nothing more.
    They all ask “why?” I tell them “a decision has been made to terminate them, that is all I am able to tell you”.

    Well done Fair Work, well done trade unions, well done ALP. Some of these kids leave crying. They don’t know what has happened or why.

  106. Anna Burke—having very recently woken up in the back of a stranger’s ute, apparently—just tried to present a “Parliament was so much better behaved when I was Speaker” screech.

  107. .

    Sounds like Anna had fun.

    Reminds me of that bit in George Gently

    John Bacchus: I woke up with a complete stranger next to us this morning.
    George Gently: [ironically] Some men pay money for that.
    John Bacchus: Should have seen the state of her. It’s like waking up next to somebody’s grandma.

  108. .

    David Leyonhjelm gives a “frightening” interview and offends lovers of “organic veegies and caring communities” (see comments)

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/david-leyonhjelm/5494318

    I don’t agree with the severity of his attack on the Nationals but I think until recently they’ve been duds.

    David L and Barnaby on Bolt would be gold, BTW.

  109. Lysander

    FMD

    Unbelievable.

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/bodies-of-800-children-longdead-found-in-septic-tank-at-former-irish-home-for-unwed-mothers-20140604-zrwtz.html

    FMD! I can’t believe The Guardian on the Yarra immediately release this but didn’t cover the Kermit Gosnell case. Yup; he killed one woman and snipped the backs of the necks of (at least) 36 newborns.

  110. Aristogeiton

    .
    #1333190, posted on June 4, 2014 at 3:19 pm
    David Leyonhjelm gives a “frightening” interview and offends lovers of “organic veegies and caring communities” (see comments)

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bushtelegraph/david-leyonhjelm/5494318

    Ivory tower libertarian! I wonder how long our two interlocutors can keep up their furious agreement over the threat that the LDP poses to the Australian people? There won’t be much left to say at the next Young Liberals meeting.

    The upshot is that I’ve had the opportunity to read a number of the LDP’s policies and will be joining the party. It only took 7 pages of comments :)

  111. Bruce of Newcastle

    Meet the Palmersaurus

    Here is his blog post title: Know Your Thunder Lizards

    Tim Blair is the definition of a sub ed. Talent! Earth will be poorer for the lack should some outraged lefty assassinate him.

  112. .

    Miranda Devine with David Leyonhjelm actually discusses the LDP immigration policy, Bob Day & economics, the difference of the ALP and LNP and the unpredictability of PUP, along with Lambe’s crazy “tax the banks” idea.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152194754357672&set=vb.134050922671&type=2&theater

  113. .

    The upshot is that I’ve had the opportunity to read a number of the LDP’s policies and will be joining the party. It only took 7 pages of comments :)

    You’re in a fucking bubble mate! Agitating for lower government is a good idea but wholly unelectable!

  114. Aristogeiton

    .
    #1333218, posted on June 4, 2014 at 3:36 pm
    The upshot is that I’ve had the opportunity to read a number of the LDP’s policies and will be joining the party. It only took 7 pages of comments :)

    You’re in a fucking bubble mate! Agitating for lower government is a good idea but wholly unelectable!

    Good point. Joining the LNP so Matthew, tomix and I can discuss the ‘Muslim problem’ and how liberties are for cultural Marxists.

  115. Infidel Tiger

    Miranda Devine with David Leyonhjelm actually discusses the LDP immigration policy, Bob Day & economics, the difference of the ALP and LNP and the unpredictability of PUP, along with Lambe’s crazy “tax the banks” idea.

    Very interesting interview.

    Those Liberal Party idiots haven’t even tried to approach him.

  116. .

    Leyonhjelm interviewed on RN:

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/david-leyonhjelm/5492988

    “The budget is not anywhere near severe”
    “The Liberal Democrats are a low tax party and will never vote for an increase in taxes”

  117. Baldrick

    Rabz
    #1333173, posted on June 4, 2014 at 3:11 pm
    Meet the Palmersaurus

    Wait for it …

    “That’s outrageous! If the ABC must apologise to Kenny then Murdoch should be made to apologise to Palmer. Likening Palmer to a dinosaur is simply unacceptable. Palmer should sue I tells ya. Sue!”

  118. Infidel Tiger

    I found this interview frightening. Do many people really think like this? I can only hope David Leyonhjelm was voted in by accident, and is not an indication of Australia’s values. No wonder he feels the need for the right to carry pepper spray with a mind set like that! Give me caring communities and organic veggies any day.

    I love it when hippies get frightened. It means you’re on the right track.

  119. .

    The RN interview is actually better but it takes longer and David doesn’t speak as well.

  120. Rabz

    “That’s outrageous! If the ABC must apologise to Kenny then Murdoch should be made to apologise to Palmer. Likening Palmer to a dinosaur is simply unacceptable. Palmer should sue I tells ya. Sue!”

    This message brought to you by our li’l mate, “Clive 4 Evah”.

  121. Notafan

    796 death certificates issued in Galway for babies in this home over 38 years, many with cause of death noted, not necessarily all buried in a disused septic tank.
    Dead in desperately poor Ireland, many no doubt during the great depression. Reports from the 1940s indicate many of the children in the home were malnourished so where was the money for coffins? Not surprising that in poor overcrowded conditions many died.
    All very Angela’s Ashes.
    Very sad but worthy of this enormous international coverage?

  122. Token

    All very Angela’s Ashes.
    Very sad but worthy of this enormous international coverage?

    The question is what lefty clusterf**k is this being used to crowd out?

  123. Baldrick

    Clive ‘Skywhale’ Palmer was conspicuous by his absence from Parliament today, failing to occupy his two seats.

    Miranda Devine found him, eating as usual …

    @mirandadevine
    How come Clive Palmer is in the QLD parliament strangers’ dining room right now when Parliament is sitting in Canberra? Treating the electorate like fools.

    More like treating is stomach once again.

  124. .

    I think tomix has flipped his lid

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2014/05/30/guest-post-david-leyonhjelm-open-the-front-door/comment-page-7/#comment-1333261

    tomix
    #1333261, posted on June 4, 2014 at 4:16 pm
    Try to imagine living next door to a Ghurkha:

    Norm [talking over back fence: O.K. if I trim your tree branches hanging over my fence?

    Ghurkha: [Removes dagger from waistband and plants it in Norm's chest]

    That’s how minor personal disputes are handled in Nepalese culture.

    Why would anyone want that here?

    We MUST deport the Nepalese at ONCE!

  125. nic

    Gwyneth Paltrow has encouraged her newsletter readers to consider the impact being unkind to water has on the substance in the latest Goop missive.
    In her lifestyle newsletter, Paltrow wrote about her fascination with the power of words and energy.
    She cited a study into the energy of words by Japanese scientist Masuru Emoto that involved speaking, yelling and playing music to water to discover if it had any molecular impact.
    “In his experiments, Emoto poured pure water into vials labelled with negative phrases like ‘I hate you’ or ‘fear’. After 24 hours, the water was frozen, and no longer crystallised under the microscope: It yielded grey, misshapen clumps instead of beautiful lace-like crystals.
    “In contrast, Emoto placed labels that said things like ‘I Love You’, or ‘Peace’ on vials of polluted water, and after 24 hours, they produced gleaming, perfectly hexagonal crystals.”
    Paltrow, who last week drew fire from Cindy McCain for comparing internet criticism to war, wrote she had long been an admirer of Mr Emoto’s work.
    Few scientists have attempted to replicate or interrogate Mr Emoto’s findings. He has also run a similar experiment with rice in water, with similar results.

    http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/gwyneth-paltrow-yelling-at-water-hurts-its-feelings-20140604-zrxcl.html

  126. Try to imagine living next door to a Ghurkha:
    Norm [talking over back fence: Have you been bothered by the thugs from the next street? They've keyed my car, and bailed up my missus in the shopping centre carpark, saying they'd "cut" her for the fun of it.
    Gurkha: [silence]
    {Fast forward Two days} Norm’s doorbell rings, half a dozen thugs from the next street are on his porch, some on crutches, some with arms in slings, all looking very skinned up and bruised.
    Thugs: We’re very sorry Mr. Norm sir for disrespecting you, we feel very bad about this and to make amends will be coming around next week – once we recover from having walked into a door – and we’ll do some jobs, any jobs, no matter how heavy, for you in your yard…. if that’s okay with you Mr. Norm, sir.

  127. Bruce of Newcastle

    Gwyneth Paltrow is a hot babe. In a conversation I once mistook her for Cate Blanchett, which is understandable since both have the brain capacity and politics of a small lemur.

  128. Rudiau

    Gwyneth Paltrow is a hot babe.

    Never liked her.

  129. Baldrick

    She cited a study into the energy of words by Japanese scientist Masuru Emoto that involved speaking, yelling and playing music to water to discover if it had any molecular impact.

    Writing, whilst on an LSD trip, will always end ugly.

  130. Gab

    WOW! Joe Hockey lays into Labor over deaths at sea. Of course, Tony “Speaker Bishop is a witch” Burke promptly ponced to the microphone to declare his disappointment at “the conduct and tone of this parliament”.

    Video and article here.

  131. Japanese scientist Masuru Emoto Yoko Ono that involved speaking, yelling and playing music to water to discover if it had any molecular impact.

    FIFY

  132. kae

    Helen

    Yoko singing to water?

    I’m sure it would cringe, Yoko’s singing has that affect on me.

  133. Foggyfig

    I watched QT, Gab, and Joe was fantastic – the look on sooky lala pious Burkes’ face made me laugh.

  134. Burke promptly ponced to the microphone to declare his disappointment at “the conduct and tone of this parliament”.

    Oh, but he’s right. Things have gone sadly downhill since the cultured and refined days of Slipper, Gillard and Thomson. One hardly ever sees a battenberg cake at high tea any more in the Parliamentary Dining Room.

  135. Senile Old Guy

    Gwyneth Paltrow is a hot babe. In a conversation I once mistook her for Cate Blanchett, which is understandable since both have the brain capacity and politics of a small lemur.

    So no comment on the scientific validity of those experiments, Bruce? Clearly, the science is too deep. /sarc

  136. Gab

    No, they still do that, Philippa, it’s just that Clive Palmer gets to the tea room first.

  137. No, they still do that, Philippa, it’s just that Clive Palmer gets to the tea room first.

    The Cat is an edumacation in itself some days.

  138. Delta A

    It was good to see Morrison allowing a look at the man behind the stern-faced minister. Witty, humorous and just a tad cheeky: I warm to him more every day.

  139. Delta A

    Burke is the whiney, tattling schoolboy that every teacher would like to thump, but refrains from doing so for fear of the ensuing paperwork.

  140. Japanese scientist Masuru Emoto

    Yep nothing says you’re a scientist like;

    Studied International relations at YMU
    Doctor of Alternative Medicine at the Open International University for Alternative Medicine in India

  141. egg_

    How come Clive Palmer is in the QLD parliament strangers’ dining room right now

    Lobbying?

  142. Rabz

    a study into the energy of words by Japanese scientist Masuru Emoto that involved speaking, yelling and playing music to water to discover if it had any molecular impact

    But no, these people are not total dingbats, I tells ya.

    So, the next time some “libertarian” lunatic denounces the majority of commenters here as crotchety grandparents prone to screaming at clouds, you can just point out you’re simply studying the effects of verbal abuse on the aformentioned clouds’ molecular structure.

    You know it makes sense, etc.

  143. Bruce of Newcastle

    Senator Joe Ludwig, and Fairfax Ltd, show they “have had a laser-like focus on spending in the public service”:

    DFAT websites cost us $113,000

    Three websites for the foreign affairs and trade portfolios have cost taxpayers $113,130, according to answers to questions on notice.

    The costs include more than $68,000 for “website testing”, $19,000 for training, $15,000 for “website release management” and $10,000 for “website deployment”.

    “I assume (website deployment) means pushing the button to put it up,” said Labor Senator Joseph Ludwig, who was asking top bureaucrats about the costs in a Senate Budget Estimates hearing Wednesday morning.

    Senator Ludwig later said to Fairfax Media: “This is just more evidence of the twisted priorities of the government while it breaks its promises to pensioners, students and low and middle income families.”

    The hundred grand, which I’d say is pretty good value for three whole websites, is 0.00025% of the deficit Joe’s mob left us, and 0.00003% of the $355 billion of federal debt Labor clocked up in just 6 years.

    I am very glad that Big Joe is all over the governments twisted priorities. But even after all the recent redundancies Farfaix may have a few more drones they could dispense with.

  144. Rabz

    I assume (website deployment) means pushing the button to put it up,” said Labor Senator Joseph Ludwig, who was asking top bureaucrats about the costs in a Senate Budget Estimates hearing Wednesday morning

    Would this be the same Joseph Ludwig who presided over the instantaneous shutting down of the live cattle export trade, by any chance?

    Just how much did that sensible, far sighted decision ‘cost’ you fucking inbred imbecile?

  145. Rabz

    Aaaarrggghh! comma fail.

  146. egg_

    Meet the Palmersaurus

    No match for Credlin – looks like SHY on steroids.

  147. Gab

    Turnbull really does love the limelight:

    Now Malcolm Turnbull calls me a liar as well. He doesn’t seem eager to hose down this story, does he?

    Some other interesting things about this interview, too….

    Tomorrow Turnbull will keep it going for yet another day by going on Alan Jones’ show.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/turnbull_kicks_the_story_even_further_along/

  148. .

    Rabz
    #1333385, posted on June 4, 2014 at 5:33 pm
    a study into the energy of words by Japanese scientist Masuru Emoto that involved speaking, yelling and playing music to water to discover if it had any molecular impact

    But no, these people are not total dingbats, I tells ya.

    So, the next time some “libertarian” lunatic denounces the majority of commenters here as crotchety grandparents prone to screaming at clouds, you can just point out you’re simply studying the effects of verbal abuse on the aformentioned clouds’ molecular structure.

    You know it makes sense, etc.

    Ssshh!

    Quiet gramps. You’re offending the spirits of the forest. I don’t want to eat field mushrooms with thetans karmic debt.

  149. johanna

    Why was Clive in Queensland instead of at the job he gets paid for (Parliament) today?

    According to the great man himself:

    Asked why he was not attending Federal Parliament, which is sitting in Canberra, Mr Palmer said he was in Brisbane to have lunch and talk to reporters in Queensland.

  150. .

    Did Canberra run out of food?

  151. Those emphatic denials about the leadership hint at the lady protesting too much. So does the sneaky dinner with Clive and Martin P.

  152. Did Canberra the ACT and parts of the NSW hinterland between Canberra and the Queensland border run out of food?

    FIFY. Ate his way there.

  153. Gab

    Listen to Turnbull at the link provided by Bolt, Turbull changes the story, again, on how the dinner came about.

  154. Grigory M

    David L and Barnaby on Bolt would be gold, BTW.

    Poor buggers would hardly get a word in. Bolt would talk over the top of them.

  155. johanna

    Philippa, he’s a one-man locust plague, seemingly.

  156. .

    Turnbull says he slayed 300 Angus cattle as appeasement in exchange for the lives of himself, Lucy and their beloved pooches.

  157. Grigory M

    Gwyneth Paltrow is a hot babe. In a conversation I once mistook her for Cate Blanchett,

    Ah – she was wearing a burqua, then. Understandabe.

  158. Delta A

    Good evening, Grigory. Sorry I missed your greeting last night. To many other-things going on. Now shoo shoo, back to the grind with you.

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    Grigory, you know the Newcastle Song. Gwyneth and Cate qualify for hotness. They’re blond. Brains are messy organs inside the skull, which are not worth worrying about.

  160. Listen to Turnbull at the link provided by Bolt, Turbull changes the story, again, on how the dinner came about.

    What now?

    ‘Well, I was out walking the labradoodle and sipping a latte, when lo and behold! my Hermes wallet came tumbling out of my pocket and fell into the gutter. I was just stooping to pick it up, when that nice Mr Palmer beat me to it. Of course, he had mistaken it for a juicy rump steak. It was too amusing for words, and we laughed and laughed, and then he said, ‘I say, old chap – why don’t you and I get together with Martin Parkinson and pop out for a bit of dinner?”

  161. egg_

    Listen to Turnbull at the link provided by Bolt, Turbull changes the story, again, on how the dinner came about.

    They pencilled out a plan on one of Conroy’s drink coasters, but Clive inadvertently scoffed it?

  162. JC

    Gab
    I’m really pissed off. XON only went up 3% last night, which means it will take possibly 43 days to get to 1000 bucks a share.

  163. Baldrick

    Turnbull says he slayed 300 Angus cattle as appeasement in exchange for the lives of himself, Lucy and their beloved pooches.

    Skywhale says he slayed 300 Angus cattle … and ate the lot!

  164. JC

    ‘Well, I was out walking the labradoodle and sipping a latte, when lo and behold! my Hermes wallet came tumbling out of my pocket

    Hermes doesn’t make mens wallets, I think.

  165. Gab

    I checked it about an hour ago and it was at $22.9 so my predicted is out the door. Seems you are right about the $25.

  166. Baldrick

    You know it’s going to end in tears for somebody when politicians say this:

    Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull says Prime Minister Tony Abbott has the complete support of the Liberal Party

    It’s not so much what he said, but what he didn’t say.

  167. Token

    Hermes doesn’t make mens wallets, I think.

    Don’t worry Turnbull can change his story again.

  168. C.L.

    … my Hermes wallet came tumbling out of my pocket.

    I had to check to see that this was a woman commenting.

    Good, good.

    Because men don’t use wallets.

    As Lefty pointed out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODPJOQX5We4

  169. Because men don’t use wallets.

    I don’t use, and have never used, a wallet or wristwatch.

  170. Peter from SA

    Hermes doesn’t make mens wallets, I think.

    Metrosexual alert …. who would know that JC?

  171. Peter from SA

    I don’t use, and have never used, a wallet

    you have a man-bag … or better …. just wads of cash stuffed into your bum-pack (worn frontways, biker style)

  172. will

    Try to imagine living next door to a Ghurkha:

    reminds me of this woman, and this.

  173. you have a man-bag … or better …. just wads of cash stuffed into your bum-pack (worn frontways, biker style)

    ??????????

  174. Peter from SA

    Just my sense of the absurd Steve … best forgotten!

  175. Bruce of Newcastle

    XON only went up 3% last night

    Get out while you can JC, they are into GTL, which is anathema to Obama and the Dems. Unless their boss is a donor…

  176. Infidel Tiger

    I don’t use, and have never used, a wallet or wristwatch.

    Yeah, but you look a complete plonker pulling out your chequebook and fob watch.

  177. .

    I have never used deodorant or ironed my clothes. I emit a pleasant, manly musk (it’s a formidable scent, stings the nostirls) and I shout at my clothes until they pleat and the water in the nearby jug turns grey (thanks Goop).

    Wallets? It is unmanly not to have a tab everywhere and pay by bank cheque.

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why does this thread smell of old socks?

  179. Infidel Tiger

    Turnbull seems to have his pecker up in parliament.

    He gave Sinclair’s favourite economist Andy Leigh a nice slap today:

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malcolm-turnbull-taunts-andrew-leigh-20140604-zrxo7.html

  180. Yeah, but you look a complete plonker pulling out your chequebook and fob watch.

    Depends where you live. I know people who almost never use or see cash.
    Hehe, they’re called “pocket watches” I.T. and are common enough to not e worthy of comment if you see one. (don’t know why they got the name, coz I’ve only ever seen ‘em worn in a pouch on the belt, usually beside the knife pouch).

  181. Why does this thread smell of old socks?

    We’ll have to move this discussion out of the laundry & into the billiard room.

  182. C.L.

    Manhattan apartment is yours … for just $110,000,000.

  183. Gab

    He gave Sinclair’s favourite economist Andy Leigh a nice slap today

    Hmmm…Turnbull looked like a clown.

  184. Token

    WOW! Joe Hockey lays into Labor over deaths at sea.

    He named all responsible, good work Joe.

  185. Delta A

    We’ll have to move this discussion out of the laundry…

    Great! And I’m left here washing a mountain of smelly socks and ironing in Dot’s pleats.

  186. C.L.

    Holy Toledo:

    The $110 million penthouse is about 8,975 square feet with a 584-square-foot terrace. The four-bedroom condo with a private elevator spans nine stories, with the primary living space on the 50th and 51st floors, according to the offering plan. A great room and wine cellar make up the 53rd floor, and the 55th through 58th levels in the cupola include a library or media room and an observation deck at the top, the plan shows.

  187. Tiny Dancer

    I’m with you dot other than the odd splash of Sex Panther on the odd occasion.

  188. C.L.

    God, I’m sick of News Ltd websites.

    I clicked Gab’s Hockey story and video link.

    Using Chrome, three times I tried to use the crappy auto-player’s volume control only to have the sound disappear entirely. Their sites are overladen with crap.

  189. C.L.

    Dot, I hate to be the one to tell you this at an advanced stage of your life but … Don’t trust your own nose when it comes to assessing the olfactory attractiveness of your own person.

  190. 'S

    On a different note, Sin City 2 is being released August 22 (US)
    trailer is up on youtube. Enjoyed the original alot.

  191. JC

    Don’t buy it, Cl. The building is nice, but it’s in a shitty area and of course on Broadway which carries a ton of traffic and noise. I don’t want to see you paying even half of what they ask.

  192. C.L.

    Thanks, Gab.

    Much much better.

    Well done, Hockey, for stating the brutal truth: Labor killed 1200 people.

    And they’ve never apologised.

  193. calli

    For Dot.

    Because we all loves youse…

  194. JC

    The fucking nerve of those developers asking for 110 mill for an apartment south of 14th street. They ought to be jailed for this temerity.

    One of a kind: While there are similarly expensive apartments for sale in midtown, the asking price for the Woolworth penthouse is uniquely high for a property south of 14th street

  195. JC

    Labor killed 1200 people.

    More like 4000 and they would have continued if the electorate didn’t call enough.

  196. Tom

    Dot, I hate to be the one to tell you this at an advanced stage of your life but … Don’t trust your own nose when it comes to assessing the olfactory attractiveness of your own person.

    Glad it was you and not me who had to break the news, CL.

  197. jupes

    Very sad but worthy of this enormous international coverage?

    800 dead kids in a septic tank. No graves. No coffins.

    800 kids died over 37 years in the care of nuns.

    Some fucking care.

    Yeah I reckon it’s worthy of enormous international coverage.

  198. Baldrick

    Token
    #1333535, posted on June 4, 2014 at 6:57 pm
    Mad Magazine on the Bergdahl Fiasco

    Love it +1

  199. john constantine

    the frothing bile that rises in a leftie , when i suggest to them that the border policies of the labor/green taliban government of rudgillrud killed as many people as died in the twin towers on 9/11–that is pleasing. spittle flecked, but pleasing.

  200. Grigory M

    Don’t trust your own nose when it comes to assessing the olfactory attractiveness of your own person.

    Here you go, Dot – and Tiny.

    ;)

  201. Baldrick

    Labor killed 1200 people – no one cares

    800 dead kids in a septic tank – worthy of international coverage

    ?

  202. tomix

    But jupes, I don’t know about this- could some sectarian bigot use this tragedy to attack the Catholic Church?

    Or even more shockingly, allege some sort of cover-up involving the police, the church, and the Irish Gov’t

  203. Gab

    As terrible as it is that 800 babies over 37 years were found in that tank, there’s little coverage about:

    Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals
    The remains of more than 15,000 babies were incinerated as ‘clinical waste’ by hospitals in Britain with some used in ‘waste to energy’ plants

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10717566/Aborted-babies-incinerated-to-heat-UK-hospitals.html

  204. JC

    I’m sure this will get a reaction onTwitter .. #auspol

    jc ‏@jc6543 6s

    #auspol How many boaties did earwax eater and the lying slapper kill through their policy of letting them drown at sea? Anyone know?

  205. Tiny Dancer

    Gregory, I ooze pheromones. They accentuate my powerful personality.

  206. But jupes, I don’t know about this- could some sectarian bigot use this tragedy to attack the Catholic Church?
    Or even more shockingly, allege some sort of cover-up involving the police, the church, and the Irish Gov’t

    If it turns out to have been a non-religious care home that didn’t even have a chapel, run by social workers without a nun so much as delivering bread to the place, watch the story suddenly receive less coverage than a lost dog notice.

  207. jupes

    But jupes, I don’t know about this- could some sectarian bigot use this tragedy to attack the Catholic Church?

    Of course they could. And, bigot or not, they would be correct to attack it – in particular the order of nuns who were responsible for those kids.

  208. JC

    Dancer

    What’s stepford and fatboy up to these days? I heard that Stepford is still toying with the idea the climate models are fucked and he’s soon going off disability and placed on Newstart.

    Fatboy is devouring 80 donuts per day as he’s still suffering depression for being bounced outta here. Bounced of course is using linguistic license as it would be impossible to bounce the obese fuck.

  209. tomix

    What would you say is the likelihood of that being the case, Steve at the Pub?

    In the millions to one against will do.

  210. calli

    It’s an appalling story, regardless of who is responsible. And the truth, however distasteful, should be told.

  211. Grigory M

    Gregory, I ooze pheromones. They accentuate my powerful personality.

    I know the problem, Tiny – it can be a distraction – batting the sheilas away while you’re trying to concentrate.

  212. Infidel Tiger

    Depends where you live. I know people who almost never use or see cash.
    Hehe, they’re called “pocket watches” I.T. and are common enough to not e worthy of comment if you see one. (don’t know why they got the name, coz I’ve only ever seen ‘em worn in a pouch on the belt, usually beside the knife pouch).

    Where do you live? Sovereign Hill in 1873?

    Are these people bartering coconuts and spices?

    Kids these days don’t wear watches or carry cash either. They have smart phones and use eftpos for everything.

  213. Infidel Tiger

    If we can prove the 800 dead babies were partial birth abortions the left will pipe down quick smart.

  214. Notafan

    Those children were born to poor malnounified women in a poverty struck Ireland mainly during a period of time when malnutrition was also common in the UK. No one is suggesting they were murdered? People who don’t have money for food don’t have money for coffins, the septic tank was disused and dated from the homes previous use as a workhouse.
    Not that many years earlier in the female factory in Hobart, unless I am much mistaken, not a single child that went in came out alive, and they were randomly buried in the hill behind.

  215. jupes

    It’s an appalling story, regardless of who is responsible. And the truth, however distasteful, should be told.

    Correct. Unfortunately it seems a few people on this blog seem happy to sweep this one under the carpet.

  216. JC

    St his blog.

    Stepford

    Some rube over at Catallaxy reckons you’re being booted off the disability pension and placed on New Start. Is that true?

  217. Of course they could. And, bigot or not, they would be correct to attack it – in particular the order of nuns who were responsible for those kids.

    Oh yeah:

    …what happened to nearly 800 of those abandoned children has now emerged: their bodies were piled into a massive septic tank … and forgotten

    According to documents … …, malnutrition and neglect killed many of the children

    Special kinds of neglect and abuse were reserved for the Home Babies, as locals call them… They remember how they were segregated to the fringes of classrooms, and how the local nuns accentuated the differences between them and the others. They remember how, as one local told the Irish Central, they were “usually gone by school age – either adopted or dead”.
    According to Irish Central, a 1944 local health board report described the children living at the Home as “emaciated,” “pot-bellied,” “fragile” and with “flesh hanging loosely on limbs.”

  218. Notafan

    Malnourished!
    There are a million stories about current abuse of children that the MSM is happy to ignore….

  219. Gab

    Correct. Unfortunately it seems a few people on this blog seem happy to sweep this one under the carpet.

    Really? Who are they? Name names.

  220. Infidel Tiger

    Those children were born to poor malnounified women in a poverty struck Ireland mainly during a period of time when malnutrition was also common in the UK.

    Amazing isn’t it. Children are now taken from their parents in the UK for being obese.

  221. Tiny Dancer

    Grigory, exactly. I consume alcohol to give the other blokes a chance with the wimminses. Alcohol, the great leveller.

  222. Where do you live? Sovereign Hill in 1873?
    Are these people bartering coconuts and spices?

    These fellers wouldn’t know what either a coconut or spice are. Look on the bright side I.T. there’s plenty of Australian culture you’re yet to experience :)

    Kids these days don’t wear watches or carry cash either. They have smart phones and use eftpos for everything.

    Neither are kids paying 100% of their own bills, or running a business.

  223. jupes

    Really? Who are they? Name names.

    Baldrick, Notafan and Gab.

  224. Really? Who are they? Name names.
    Baldrick, Notafan and Gab.

    There could be more than that Jupes.

  225. Gab

    Baldrick, Notafan and Gab.

    For myself, you’re off your tree. I pointed it out above. Moron.

  226. calli

    Notafan gave an historical perspective to the burial, Jupes, referencing the Female Factory in Hobart. I’m not sure about any under-the-carpet sweeping, though.

  227. Grigory M

    Delta sama – konbanwa – o genki desu ka?

    No probs missing last evening’s greeting – busy for me too, 10.30pm finish. Up early today – just before 5.00am, bright eyed and bushy tailed (as they say) – and released from the salt mines at 5.30pm – so no more grind for me today.

    But, your “shoo shoo” has prompted me to locate something to entertain the older Cats.

  228. Tom

    JC
    #1333635, posted on June 4, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    LOL.

    Next question: Stepford, of all the new trolls at the Cat, which one do you think most closely resembles you? Joe Goodacre is the current favourite.

  229. Notafan

    Not sweeping anything, Ireland was desperately poor with an infant mortality rate of 7% in the 1930s and tuberculosis was rife until the 1950s. Dublins slums were amongst the worst in Europe. The depression hit Ireland particularly hard.
    I’m sure there were many things done that were as wrong then as they are now. No-one in the MSM hesitates to condemn the Catholic Church no matter how long ago something happened but who has given the girls enslaved by Boko Haram another thought after last week’s hastagging or considered Miriam Ibrahim shackled to the wall in Sudan?

  230. Delta A

    Grigory – Hai, genki desu… anata wa?

    Thanks for the nice little clip. It comes from the days when people didn’t have to worry about political correctness, feminism or social media. Their main concern then was simply staying alive.

  231. johanna

    Notafan – I’d be surprised if the infant mortality rate was “only” 7% in Ireland in the 1930s. One thing is for sure, a lot less than 93% of children born made it to adulthood.

    It is a terrible story, but while the nuns may have been less than charitable to unmarried mothers, and treated the dead babies disgracefully, the death rate is in itself not surprising.

  232. .

    “Some rube”, JC

    Rube is probably the best word to describe a climate model addict.

  233. Tom

    Immediately after it is broadcast, 2GB will replay the Greenfilth Media Corporation’s 9pm apology to Chris Kenny and get his reaction.

  234. will

    W

    hat’s stepford and fatboy up to these days? I heard that Stepford is still toying with the idea the climate models are fucked and he’s soon going off disability and placed on Newstart.

    Fatboy is devouring 80 donuts per day as he’s still suffering depression for being bounced outta here. Bounced of course is using linguistic license as it would be impossible to bounce the obese fuck.

    Both are living in your head rent free. You are like the pub crazy always looking for a stoush, and your two main protagonists are ignoring you.

  235. jupes

    For myself, you’re off your tree. I pointed it out above. Moron.

    “Yeah but … look over there …”

    That’s sweeping it under the carpet.

  236. Gab

    Yeah but … look over there …”

    That’s sweeping it under the carpet.

    You’re very strange and I think you’re just looking for a fight. Luckily, this is the place for it.

    I said it was terrible, just as terrible as the miscarried and aborted babies being disposed of in an incinerator by the NHS to heat hospitals in 2014, and who knows for how long. I notice you said nothing about that. Don’t you worry, pet, the media will beat up on the Catholic Church over it but the incinerated babies? Well that’s been well and truly swept under the carpet. And yet you say nothing.

  237. tomix

    Boko Haram…MSM…Myriam Ibrahim…unicorns… The Lincoln Squirrel?

    No, we’re talking about 8oo babies in a septic tank between 1926 and 1961, aren’t we? Not the fucking potato famine.

  238. candy

    It is a terrible story, but while the nuns may have been less than charitable to unmarried mothers, and treated the dead babies disgracefully, the death rate is in itself not surprising.

    Well, I think the unmarried mothers and the illegitimate babies would have been treated very badly, as the lowest of the low, plus the food starvation issue. It’s hard to grasp the suffering that must have happened to these children.
    But quite possibly it would not be any different to any other religious organisation at that time in history, in any part of the world, in regard to illegitimate children and unwed mothers?
    But that doesn’t make the thought of it any more bearable.

  239. .

    FFS Steve the farmers I know from out west all use cash, no eftpos and cheques are still a rarity.

    You must be in the middle of fucking nowhere. I worked in a place that was not tiny but it was isolated and we still had EFTPOS and cash.

    What? You’ve got no roads and the Brinks truck can’t make it?

    Hmm.

    I’m beginning to think you’re really up north, the miners are bauxite and phosphate and the farmers you speak of are crocodile farmers.

    It’s amazing what reach this well read blog has.

  240. jupes

    Shorter Gab:

    I said it was terrible … yeah but … look over there … let’s change the subject.

  241. Gab

    Fuck off, Jupes. You really are a moron.

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