Thursday Forum: June 5, 2014

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  1. twostix

    There is so much of the nation who isn’t within reach of a school (especially a high school), and the parents go to such incredible lengths and sacrifices to attempt to get their kids to a school that your heart almost bleeds.

    There’d be less that 1% of the population who don’t have a school within 50km of them. And they could always move closer to a town. But they don’t. I wonder why they willingly choose to live so far away from even the most minor population if it’s such a burden on their children?

    Oh hang on, are you on about those country kids who’re raised on 2000 acre+ properties who get sent to those boarding schools out in the country which have about as much in common with the average city public school as a Château in France has in common with a wooden shack in Bosnia?

  2. Oh hang on, are you on about those country kids who’re raised on 2000 acre+ properties who get sent to those boarding schools out in the country which have about as much in common with the average city public school as a Château in France has in common with a wooden shack in Bosnia?

    Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.

    Do I detect a sneering prejudice against those who (in your words) “choose” to not live in the CBD?
    You’re sounding like Gough Whitlam, or a Liberal voting free marketeer.

  3. Ros

    Continuing on from Sinclair’s concern about the ABC, Kenny is a very brave man. Scott on the other hand is a very weak timid man and I suspect absolutely terrified of the ABC cabal.

    On the topic of their severe and profound governance problems I had occasion a couple of decades ago to represent a management employee of the ABC in an unfair dismissal. And as a result had the extremely unpleasant experience of dealing with their in house lawyer. I was a union advocate not a lawyer. And not that the lawyer was much different to the controlling cult that ran the ABC.

    We had very few members within the ABC and those we did have chose to keep their membership secret, doubly so after what happened to our member. The ABC at that time was steadily dismissing a number of employees on the grounds of incompetence etc, but what was very clear was that it was in fact a purge. Other than not being incompetent the shared characteristic of these employees was that they had private media experience. It was a purge, and a very vicious one. The employees were bullied and harassed, as was their representative. The occupation of the main bulk of our members meant I got to deal with some pretty heavy organisations but none came near to the ABC in viciousness. I too was bullied and harassed by their in-house lawyer. Our receptionist would dash down to see I wasn’t having a stroke every time this person rang, which was very often. She could hear the lawyer shouting abuse at me without the speaker. I was totally bereft of any moral fibre, how could I sleep at night knowing what a truly dreadful person I was for representing my member, this dastardly awful person. They used a lawyer because they had stuffed up their first few dismissals. Life was hell for our member, hate is not too strong a word to describe the attitude, and in the end the member accepted basically a few weeks and promise not to be done over, further.

    It was then a very sick organisation. It is with much sadness that I note from the treatment of Kenny that time has not civilised it and that they are behaving in exactly the same way as they did when I got the shock of my life. And it is the case that there has been no change, be one of us or you will be destroyed.
    And that Turnbull has chosen to join the Friends says very bothersome things about him, but then I have heard hints on radio that he is a bully anyway.
    It is hard to see how there is any way of curing this organisation other than doing what the Greeks did, obliterate it and create a new organisation.

    That Scott, the senior management and the employees just don’t get that they have become, or always have been, more an echo chamber for ideas rather than a generator of them, as an article in Forbes discusses, which can be the result of a group in an organisation who are all similar to each other, and that this can become their greatest weakness. This sounds like the ABC and its mates and acolytes, that each time an idea is shared it is amplified and echoed within the group, and while sounding like multiple perspectives it is just one idea echoing across the group, and more exposure to the same idea just leads to extremism . The solution diversity.

    An example in the article from Scott Page, Prof., Complex Systems, Political Science and Economics, Uni of Michigan.
    “If you could ask 5 people for advice on the value of a new home you’re purchasing, who would you rather ask? 5 realtors (i.e. experts)? Or 5 people from different professions.
    It is very likely that if you ask 5 Realtors, you are going to get a lot of the same data, just said slightly different. If all the people in one group are coming to the same conclusion, you may want to be sceptical, because you may be in an echo chamber……The likelihood of people using very different data and perspectives and arriving at the same conclusion is low.”

    Not an idea that has echoed around the ABC obviously. There continual refusal to invite diverse views to inform the ABC, indeed their vicious response to any such happening, their contempt for other than their own view of the world, their belief in their right to advocate their perspective, at the taxpayers expense, leaves no alternative but to disband the ABC.

    And that Turnbull is their champion and friend says he too is incapable of seeing the need for diversity and the major issue the ABC has with group think. Another example of his very poor judgement and narrow views.

  4. .

    or a Liberal voting free marketeer.

    A rare beast.

    The country is better to live in. You can’t expect the same level of services however. That is just common knowledge and has been like that even with subsidies in the past – and it is to be expected.

  5. twostix

    It’ll be happening there tonight, in the unlikely event the kids aren’t having the Three R’s rammed down their neck on schooldays.

    Yes well, since you went to school back in 1860 things have changed a bit. Are you aware that teachers and principles don’t get to choose what they teach, nor who they hire and fire? Nor would the female school principles (like teachers almost all principles being female) be too happy about a group of cranky men “cornering” them in the pub. I suspect the police would be called and APVO’s would be taken out immediately if done so. The DSS would probably become involved as well to touch base with the families as there’s suspected domineering, possibly violent and authoritarian male presences in the households.

    Where’s your god now?

  6. Thank you for that Ros.
    Good reading.

  7. Ros

    Another aspect of the unprofessionalism of the ABC that really shocked me was that they would lie outrageously; they would lie knowing that I knew they were lying and just abuse me when I called them out on their lies. Management would lie and I am pretty sure that they induced other employees to lie. The lawyer would lie without a blush. And this from an organisation whose role it was to tell the truth to the Australian public. Nothing the ABC said then should have been believed, and clearly nothing they say now should be believed. They are the antithesis of what they are there for.

  8. twostix

    Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.

    Just one?

    Their equestrian team is good, but not the best in the country. I must say.

  9. Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.
    Just one?

    Within cooee of Brisbane counts as “out” in the country?
    Calling mission control – we have a cognitive dissonance problem here.

  10. Tom

    ShakeMyHead.com dredges up a snotty-nosed tart who claims to resent her parents’ decision to make huge sacrifices to sent her to one of Australia’s expensive private schools:

    In my own experience, the values of status and gender segregation were indoctrinated daily in a million subtle and explicit ways. Being judged for your downmarket clothes at school camp. Being ridiculed because your haircut was by mum, not a celebrity hairdresser. Turning down birthday invitations because your budget gift would insult. The humiliation of wearing your classmates’ offcasts bought from the second-hand uniform shop. Feeling too ashamed to invite eastern suburbs girls to your brick veneer in the ex-urbs. Cringing at being collected in an old Datsun amid a fleet of new Mercs and Beemers. Avoiding dancing class because you couldn’t afford the dresses, nor relate to boys. Wagging sport because your swimsuit and racquet were unfashionable no-name brands. Inventing excuses to avoid excursions you couldn’t afford. Lying about your holidays because you didn’t ski in Europe, nor have a holiday home in Portsea, nor the means to go to horse-riding camp.

    My parents worked hard to pay off their mortgage, accumulate wealth, and give me loving support. But instead of pride and gratitude for my privileged first-world life, I carried shame and embarrassment, having been schooled to discern the values of old money from those of the nouveau riche. Such indoctrination made me an outsider at school and alienated me from my own family. The negative psychological impacts of such experiences are well documented in “in-group” and “out-group” studies.

    One of these impacts is guilt. Lower-status families toil to pay for the intolerant values their kids learn in elite school culture and then inflict on their own families. These values and the consequent middle-class guilt can take years to deprogram. To this day, I catch myself cringing when broadcasters say “haitch” instead of “aitch” on air, as if such pronunciations are a measure of good character, rather than a cultural vernacular to be celebrated.

    So my hardworking family was ripped off. A private school was eager to take our money, but treated us with disdain. To generalise from my experience would be foolish, but other lower-status students also share the kinds of experiences characterised in Barracuda and Ja’mie. This is why these fictions have drawn such cultural traction. Such figures as Danny and Ja’mie should be invoked in current debates around equitable education, because if private schools were held accountable in the ways other consumer products are, there would be a case for class action. Their false advertising of better educational outcomes is one thing, but an equal moral failure, in my experience, is the culture they foster, and its failure to encourage good characters.

    I suspect this ungrateful little bitch’s parents felt like dying of shame when they read it. I think she will also die of shame when she grows up.

  11. johanna

    Just glanced over the Blogroll.

    No Steyn Online and no Breitbart London. John Quiggin is still there, though.

    Time for a tidy-up and refresh?

  12. twostix

    Kinross Wolari’s 100 acre grounds, 1200 person auditorium and 25 meter indoor swinning pool are nice and all…but nothing compared to Rooty Hill High’s asphalt basketball court.

    The Pymble Ladies’ college athletics, badminton, basketball, biathlon, cricket, cross-country, diving, equestrian, fencing, football (soccer), futsal, golf, gymnastics, hockey, mountain biking, netball, rowing, sailing, snow sports, softball, surf lifesaving, swimming, tae kwon do, tennis, touch football, triathlon, volleyball and water polo teams are pretty good.

    But no match for Logan High’s all-girls touch footy team. Though their star winger Becky got pregnant the other day so they’ll be out of form for a bit.

    I can see why the country people Steve knows are keen to get their kids to school and simply can’t understand how any of the city folk don’t like public schooling. Why, doesn’t every school have its own pool?

  13. Max

    ShakeMyHead.com dredges up a snotty-nosed tart who claims to resent her parents’ decision to make huge sacrifices to sent her to one of Australia’s expensive private schools:

    Lots of Anti private school articles being run in the Fairfax press under the Abbottbeast regime..

  14. I suspect this ungrateful little bitch’s parents felt like dying of shame when they read it. I think she will also die of shame when she grows up.

    She needs a good spanking.

  15. twostix

    Within cooee of Brisbane counts as “out” in the country?
    Calling mission control – we have a cognitive dissonance problem here.

    lol I knew you’d do that. As if it makes a difference – people from rural areas send their kids to boarding schools in “the country” – that’s in “the country”. But anyway here’s what you said:

    Do I detect a sneering prejudice against those who (in your words) “choose” to not live in the CBD?

    Next it will be “No, no, what I meant is find one in the middle of the Simpson desert, that’s the real country”. (I’m not sure why you put “choose” in scare quotes as if people don’t choose where they live, but that’s another matter).

    Anyway your original point was that you couldn’t possibly see how people have a problem with modern public schooling when all these people you know on their remote stations struggle so terribly to afford to send their children to boarding schools complete with 100 acre grounds, indoor pools, stables and “equestrian” teams.
    I loled at the comparison and you got a big chip on your shoulder as though you’re the only person in the world who doesn’t live in a city.
    Must be a Friday.

  16. Kinross Wolari’s 100 acre grounds

    Reheheally? 100 acres? With that many places to hide they’d never be able to stop the kids smoking.

  17. Get your hands off it Twostix. Geographicaly snottiness I’m well accustomed to. You’re not even good at it.

  18. Twostix, your knowledge of the country seems to be a combination of what can be read in Little Golden Books, What was shown on “Bellbird” and the sort of stuff that’d be heard in a union meeting at Pinkenba.

    If you’ve ever been west of Strathfield, you’re to be commended on your ability to not let it show.

  19. Ros

    “but an equal moral failure, in my experience, is the culture they foster, and its failure to encourage good characters.”

    My grandchildren attend a public primary school. If the head is seen by the children as an example of proper behaviour then the parents of their school should be thinking about class action.

    “Lying about your holidays because you didn’t ski in Europe.”
    At this school it is probably also good idea to lie about where you have holidayed,( many of the parents are quite affluent), but because of the Head, not the kids, though no doubt they got her message. At the final assembly before the Christmas break (am I allowed to say Christmas) at which she announced that over the break she would enjoy just stretching out and doing nothing (which generated mutters of, so what’s different) unlike those kids who would be off to Europe skiing as so many did. It wasn’t said nicely. You get horrors everywhere; she could have been equally down trodden at their school.

    At least she could hope that the school she attended spent her parent’s fees honestly. A very alarming aspect of my grandchildren’s school is what happens to the fees. One parent told me of being sent a demand letter the next year for the previous terms fees. She is quite obsessive about being organized so was rather shocked that she had stuffed up. However checked and turned up at the school with bank statements and bpay receipt. She was told that it made no difference because their records showed she hadn’t paid. Her grumbling to other parents elicited similar stories. My daughter’s experience was almost funny. On receipt of letter saying she hadn’t paid she turned up with the written receipt. She was told that the School didn’t accept written receipts as proof, even their own. She told them that was the most ludicrous thing she had heard in a long time, that they had no legal right to refuse written receipts, particularly their own, and that the conversation was ended and that they were never to speak to her of the matter again. They haven’t.

    The worrying aspect of this is, who audits the Schools books, what do they think they are doing, and where the hell is the money going.

  20. I suspect this ungrateful little bitch’s parents felt like dying of shame when they read it. I think she will also die of shame when she grows up.

    Sounds like a wish, Tom. Who the fuck are you to determine how someone else should feel?? My mother went to an exclusive girl’s school, and found most of the girls to be stuck up bitches.

    I hope you’re not suggesting my mother is a snotty-nosed tart.

  21. Lots of Anti private school articles being run in the Fairfax press under the Abbottbeast regime..

    Of course SMH will exploit any and every gripe to kick to AbbottBeast another time, but that doesn’t make the experience any less real for the person in question.

  22. …went to an exclusive girl’s school, and found most of the girls to be stuck up bitches.

    This isn’t just at exclusive girl’s schools. This is every teenage girl in a group of three or more when a lone outsider turns up on their turf.

  23. Must be a Friday.

    Twostix’s wobbly grasp on facts is explained.

  24. .

    This will shed some light on a rather catty fight right now:

    http://www.isq.qld.edu.au/files/file/Our%20Schools/Find%20A%20School/WebReport-BoardingSchools.pdf

    Quite a few private boarding schools in the bush, all across QLD.

  25. Infidel Tiger

    Must be a Friday.

    He can’t tell. His sundial is on the blink.

  26. This isn’t just at exclusive girl’s schools. This is every teenage girl in a group of three or more when a lone outsider turns up on their turf.

    Touché.

    Mum didn’t resent her parents for it, though. She said that the school weeded out the smart ones for academia, and the rest they just trained them to be good housewives. Sneered at these days, of course, but looking after a household seems a bridge too far for a lot of young girls. God help the guy who marries my daughter!

  27. Grigory M

    It reminds me if an old Rodney Rude joke…

    Afraid the connection escapes me, BW.

    Anyhoo – “Half time, change sides”.

  28. Quite a few private boarding schools in the bush, all across QLD.

    I’ve got no idea what Twostix is on about, either. I only know of two, and I challenge the dope to walk from either of them to the capital city of his choice. I’ll even sponsor him and donate the proceeds to charity.

  29. Afraid the connection escapes me, BW.

    On the turps already, Grigory?

    The benefit was not for him. The doctor in the allegory is the left, where the great unwashed make the sacrifices for them, but without consent. Okay, it’s a loose connection, I agree, but more importantly, where’s my beer? It’s beer o’clock!

  30. twostix

    Get your hands off it Twostix. Geographicaly snottiness I’m well accustomed to. You’re not even good at it.

    Twostix, your knowledge of the country seems to be a combination of what can be read in Little Golden Books, What was shown on “Bellbird” and the sort of stuff that’d be heard in a union meeting at Pinkenba.

    If you’ve ever been west of Strathfield, you’re to be commended on your ability to not let it show.

    Steve I can tell your face is getting all ruddy and you’re spluttering and shaking with rage as you type.

    You demanded that I “name one” boarding school in the country that people on remote stations send their kids to. So I did. Then some more, and now dot has linked to many just in QLD. Now it happens that those schools are more Harry Potter than Bundaberg State High School. So in light of that your stern lecture about how we should all be thankful for the local government run school is quite funny.

  31. twostix

    I’ve got no idea what Twostix is on about, either. I only know of two, and I challenge the dope to walk from either of them to the capital city of his choice. I’ll even sponsor him and donate the proceeds to charity.

    What in the hell is this raving lunatic on about?

  32. Empire

    I suspect this ungrateful little bitch’s parents felt like dying of shame when they read it. I think she will also die of shame when she grows up.

    She’s a PhD candidate Tom, she’s done “growing up”. What’s more, her conclusion is correct: her parents wasted their hard earned.

    To this day, I catch myself cringing when broadcasters say “haitch” instead of “aitch” on air, as if such pronunciations are a measure of good character, rather than a cultural vernacular to be celebrated.

    The desire to celebrate the buggery of Her Majesty’s English says it all.

  33. nic

    Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.
    Just one?

    TAS (The Armidale School)

  34. This will shed some light on a rather catty fight right now:
    http://www.isq.qld.edu.au/files/file/Our%20Schools/Find%20A%20School/WebReport-BoardingSchools.pdf
    Quite a few private boarding schools in the bush, all across QLD.

    Three, from that list.

  35. Infidel Tiger

    I see Ricky Muir has appointed Glenn Druery as his senior advisor.

    That’s not good news.

  36. Steve I can tell your face is getting all ruddy and you’re spluttering and shaking with rage as you type.

    No, you can’t tell. You’re engaging in a tad too much of this “Friday” you referred to.
    Some joker with a tenuous grasp on facts (that would be you) is hardly a new phenomenon on the internet. I’m hardly going to worry about one more of them.

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bruce, the chance of the Australian government letting people with deposits in one of the Big Four lose their money are infinitesimally small as well. Ain’t gonna happen.

    You might like to ask a Cypriot what he or she thinks about your statement. Or a Russian.

    Of course it’d take an epic crack up for one of the big 4 to end up like the Cypriot banks, but if its a choice between the depositors’ funds and a tax payer bailout of many hundreds of billions, you just may find you are wrong about your certainty. Especially since the EU has now formalised it in their law. These things tend to be infectious.

    Its unlikely any of our big 4 will go that way…but Westpac nearly did in 1992. Its never never.

    Of course the shareholders all get wiped out before the deposits get hit, and we have deposit insurance up to $250k here. I’m walking the talk in my confidence here as the holder of quite a few big 4 bank shares.

  38. and we have deposit insurance up to $250k here

    Per depositor, or per account?

  39. Tiny Dancer

    Some joker with a tenuous grasp on facts (that would be you) is hardly a new phenomenon on the internet.

    Steve, did you OK that with Katter or are you against him today?

  40. Gab

    Not sure what the big argument is about but my money’s on Twostix.

  41. harrys on the boat

    Whose Glenn Druery, IT?

  42. Bruce of Newcastle

    Per depositor, or per account?

    Per depositor at each particular bank. Linky. But Hockey’s banking review guy said in January the guarantee should be abolished completely or lowered to $50k or $100k.

  43. Gab channels Bill Shorten:

    Not sure what the big argument is about but my money’s on Twostix.

  44. Steve, did you OK that with Katter or are you against him today?

    Who is Katter?
    But I (naturally) don’t post anything until I receive the O.K. for it from Clive’s HQ.

  45. Gab

    Gab channels Bill Shorten:

    lol

  46. Bruce of Newcastle

    Something which went through to the keeper in Turnbull’s 7:30 Report fun:

    Turnbull flags trial NBN nodes for 1,000 premises

    NBN Co is remaining tight-lipped about a trial for 1,000 premises to be connected to the National Broadband Network via fibre to the node, despite Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull letting details slip last night.

    “There are trial sites, there’s 11 nodes set up on Umina on the Central Coast and we are finalising the discussions with Telstra to do a big thousand-node trial and which will then roll into the full fibre-to-the-node rollout. So things are moving along very well,” he said.

    I didn’t see it. Was he wearing red underpants on his head when he said this?

  47. calli

    Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.
    Just one?

    Kinross Wollaroi at Orange.

  48. Tiny Dancer

    Who is Katter?

    You forgot dummy?

  49. Tom

    Whose Glenn Druery, IT?

    He’s the bottom feeder who made a laughing stock of the Senate voting in 2013 by teaching micro-parties how to game the system.

  50. twostix

    Some joker with a tenuous grasp on facts (that would be you) is hardly a new phenomenon on the internet. I’m hardly going to worry about one more of them.

    You told us that we should all be thankful for government run schools because downtrodden, work-horse-of-the-nation farmers that you know on properties out in the middle of QLD are heartbreakingly forced to send their children to what turns out to be glorious private boarding schools complete with indoor pools, stables and equestrian teams.

    You then denied there is even one boarding school in country QLD.

    It’s weird you’re still going on with it all.

  51. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Oh my.

    Bergdahl turns out to have converted AND to have declared himself a mujahid!

    Link

    No wonder Preshizzle (Paco™) Odumbugger the Incompetent has fallen in love with him – and released the Taliban War Cabinet for him.

    There are rumours that the Preshizzle also paid a $20 million bribe to Al Qaeda.

    if true, with pro-Islamist Presidents like that, who needed Osama bin Laden?

  52. Peter from SA

    I see Ricky Muir has appointed Glenn Druery as his senior advisor.

    that’s rather quaint. Probably the only guy that has ever done anything for Ricky Muir. But more likely Druery had some kind of agreement. How else would the Motoring Party give anything of value to Druery? I reckon the salary will be be good but the work not at all arduous …

  53. Gab

    I think we all need a spliff to mellow out.

  54. calli

    I’m demolishing a nice cold glass of Sav Blanc, Gab. Mmmm….mellow already. :)

  55. Grigory M

    The doctor in the allegory is the left, where the great unwashed make the sacrifices for them, but without consent.

    Still can’t see it, BW. But – it is clear that you’re a fuckwit. And that’s not an allegory.

  56. Gab

    but no carbs in a joint, Calli :D

  57. lotocoti

    I think we all need a spliff to mellow out. good, old-fashioned flame war to sort out who the real twinkle-toed, needle-dicks are.

  58. Gab

    sdfc should be along soon.

  59. calli

    I’ll be workin’ ‘em off tomorrow. Moving house…

  60. chrisl

    Re The NBN A friend has a contract to push a fibre from the street to the house via the existing telecom conduit. For this he is paid $70. However if the conduit is broken/blocked then a new trench must be dug and he is paid $300. Mostly the conduits are blocked and a new trench has to be dug.If there is an obstacle in the way,the owner has to be informed. At one location, 18 properties in a row had blocked conduits. Payment was promised after 14 days but has dragged out to 4 1/2 months. He is now an ex contractor.

  61. calli

    Flame war? Okay, I’ll get the skip…what size do you reckon? 9 cubes max.

  62. Who is Katter?
    You forgot dummy?

    I remember him, though I’ve never called him that. But my allegiance is to the one true politcal saviour, St. Clive of Parmasauce.

  63. Grigory M

    Moving house…

    Why? Just build another one in a new location.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    At one location, 18 properties in a row had blocked conduits.

    Which is why you shouldn’t plan a $26B $42B $96B project on the back of a serviette.

    JORC standards for mining companies are quite a bit tougher, I can say from experience.

  65. jumpnmcar

    Compare UK Construction activity with Australias ( first graph on the left ).
    They’re kicking our arse.

    ( remember, any reading above the line is expansion on the month previous and below is contraction )

    Any guesses as to why ?

  66. Steve of Glasshouse

    Mk 50.I think the poo shooter gun in the White house press room is running barrels hot.
    Obpoosfurcation is the name of the game, with any outrageous commentary re the prisoner swap just as likely to be a trojan horse. If nothing else, the left is good at massaging a message.

  67. Tiny Dancer

    Your memory must be faulty Stevey. Do you drink one every time you pour one?

  68. chrisl

    Bruce : The whole concept of linking every house in Australia to every other house with NEW fibre is totally nuts. Australia is HUGE. Wages are ENORMOUS . Productivity is SH-THOUSE. If only they had taken away that serviette!

  69. calli

    Jump, were you able to get the AS you were looking for without paying an arm and a leg?

  70. Your memory must be faulty Stevey. Do you drink one every time you pour one?

    Very faulty. But what makes you think I pour drinks? It’s that long since I’ve poured a drink I’ve near forgotten how. And that is about how often I ever get to drink, alas.

  71. Infidel Tiger

    Compare UK Construction activity with Australias ( first graph on the left ).
    They’re kicking our arse.

    ( remember, any reading above the line is expansion on the month previous and below is contraction )

    Any guesses as to why ?

    They’re in the midst of a housing boom. Prices are almost back at 2002 levels!

  72. Tiny Dancer

    Very faulty. And convenient.

  73. Steve of Glasshouse

    Life experience is just as important as a good education.Our kids were pushed into part time work at age 15 and onwards , and they also went to private schools. Nothing like travelling on the train to Cabo in a school uniform to toughen up the character either . A lot of students at private schools are there because their parents decide to make sacrifices to facilitate their education; it’s their money FFS. The school our kids went to were very proactive about the ” stuck up bitch” syndrome, and hammered down on that.

  74. JC

    They’re in the midst of a housing boom. Prices are almost back at 2002 levels!

    Amazing what a monetary policy more or less directed towards targeting nominal GDP does to an economy.

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bruce : The whole concept of linking every house in Australia to every other house with NEW fibre is totally nuts. Australia is HUGE. Wages are ENORMOUS . Productivity is SH-THOUSE. If only they had taken away that serviette!

    Chris – Oh I agree. I’m just bemused since I work with mining projects. You have to jump through multiple flaming hoops like Evel Knievel to get a project up.

    The FttN that Turnbull is talking about is a different story. They only have to go to a box at the end of the street. Copper stays in place. No one loses their phone service. Much more sensible.

    But Conroy could not do something sensible could he?

  76. calli

    But Conroy could not do something sensible could he?

    Bruce, da ebil government took away his irradiated milk before he was born. And it made him cry. Give the guy a break.

  77. Very faulty. And convenient.

    Non comprehende. Please explain.

  78. Funeral today for our friends little one. Above all, I’ve come away with a renewed appreciation for the hard edges of humanity, and the greatness revealed within them.

    Sometimes it is all one can do to stand in a situation that is insurmountable, and when all is done, continue to stand. We’ve watched our friends do that in the face of a cancer that their child finally killed in the only way left open to him. They have and are coming out stronger than they went in, if utterly exhausted.

    There’s a deep glory in that.

  79. chrisl

    If you ever had to get a service under a street (ie power from one side to the other) you will know it cost thousands. Then imagine doing that to every house in Australia ( including that never never place where SATP lives) Oh yes then you have to make it pay!

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    Its Friday so I can let out my inner neanderthal…

    Babe!

  81. Tiny Dancer

    Stevey, you remember when you grandstanded in support of Katter and made an arse of yourself? Then you hated him and pretended you didn’t know what that was about. You’re grandstanding again and your memory’s gone again. You’re just a loud mouthed idiot.

  82. Stevey, you remember when you grandstanded in support of Katter and made an arse of yourself?

    Oic, you’re just being a sour fuckhead.
    Grow up, arsehole.

  83. calli

    So sad Drifty. No words to say…

  84. Peter from SA

    very droll Bruce …

  85. Then imagine doing that to every house in Australia ( including that never never place where SATP lives)

    I think we may have the NBN here Chrisl. About a year or so ago I was offered it, however the price was ..er… stratospheric.
    I shudder to think what it cost to bring the NBN here.
    Or why, when we already have internet. But they still can’t keep mobile phone reception up, it still goes out for a few days at a time.

  86. Delta A

    Driftforge, that is heartbreaking. As an adoring mother and grandmother, I can think of nothing worse than losing a little child. Warm thoughts to you and to the family.

  87. Baldrick

    Drift – heart-felt sympathies.

  88. rugbyskier

    Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.

    Red Bend Catholic College, Forbes
    Snowy Mountains Grammar School, Jindabyne
    The Scots School, Bathurst
    The Scots School, Albury
    St Stanislaus’ College, Bathurst

    There you go, five off the top of my head.

  89. Tintarella di Luna

    Driftforge – that puts things in perspective. Condolences.

  90. St Stanislaus’ College, Bathurst

    By no stretch of credibility can St. Stans be said to be in the country.
    It is fair smack in the (not quite middle) of the city of Bathurst.
    But you’re doing well.
    Though there’s still a few that have not yet been mentioned.

  91. Baldrick

    SATP – once the NBN has been established for a while, Telstra will decommission the copper network so make sure if you have anything using the old copper network, has been upgraded for the NBN including, phone lines, alarms, eftpos etc.

  92. Snoopy

    Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.

    Government boarding schools:

    Farrer Memorial Agricultural High School – Tamworth
    Yanco Agricultural High School – Yanco

  93. Farrer has a special place in my heart.
    Though Yanco is so far south I had to google to see if it is a real place or not. Barely counts as Australia (but then again, Bathurst fits that criterion)

  94. rugbyskier

    I see you ignored the ones that shot down your poor argument. What about RBCC and SMGS? Not country enough for you? SMGS is literally in a paddock.

  95. sdfc

    sdfc should be along soon.

    I know Gab, I’m so predictable.

    That I enjoy kicking back and visiting the cat on a Friday after work is a sign of what a boring bastard I’ve become.

  96. Boarding schools “out in the country” Name one.

    Kilmore International School – Kilmore

  97. entropy

    Dalby Ag college, Tudor college at Bowral, the girls one fern something or other?
    All those ones at charters Towers

  98. entropy

    My mother went to Kinross.

  99. sdfc

    1. Bruce, the chance of the Australian government letting people with deposits in one of the Big Four lose their money are infinitesimally small as well. Ain’t gonna happen.
    You might like to ask a Cypriot what he or she thinks about your statement. Or a Russian.

    Aussie bank deposits are denominated in Aussie not euro.

  100. calli

    Frensham at Mittagong…fill the 4wd with hockey players, drive down and be greeted with a piping hot bacon and egg sandwich….

    Good times, good times….

  101. My mother went to Kinross.

    You learn something every day. I didn’t know Kinross Wallario was coeducational. One of my cousins went there. It taught him a first class set of values (if nothing else) however he’s always given the impression it was boys only.

    It was wasted on him though. He’s been a no-hoping alcoholic most of his life, though he manages to hold down a job most of the time.

  102. greeted with a piping hot bacon and egg sandwich

    Dammit Calli, now i want an egg & bacon banjo.

  103. Snoopy

    He’s been a no-hoping alcoholic most of his life, though he manages to hold down a job most of the time.

    Then he’s a functional drunk, thank you.

  104. bons

    Just back from working for six weeks in a town on the Austro-Hungarian border where I witnessed an act of environmental vandalism that even jet-lag does not prevent me from reporting. The area is beautiful in anyone’s terms – rolling incredibly green country, wheat crops that Oz farmers would die for, beautiful little villages, awful food etc etc.
    Superimposed is a nightmare of hundreds upon hundreds of wind farms of density that prevents any appreciation of the countryside. In addition, something that I had never anticipated, were festoons of power lines collecting the windmills output for transmission to the huge transformers.
    The whole nightmare has divided the community. The farmers are smug in that peculiarly Austrian way because they no longer have to farm. The residents are furious but cowed. Universally they believe that this mess has been imposed on them because they are ethnically Hungarian thus ….
    I glimpsed Gillard’s Fifth Circle and came away shaken, upset, and militant.

  105. Bruce of Newcastle

    Aussie bank deposits are denominated in Aussie not euro.

    Sdfc – You must’ve had a long week. There were no brain cells consulted during the writing of that comment.

    I presume you would be fine with losing 80% of your bank account.

  106. Delta A

    Bons, sounds horrific. Thanks for taking the time to report this vandalism. It could happen anywhere… and probably will.

  107. lotocoti

    Frensham at Mittagong

    Oy vey, those Frensham girls.

  108. C.L.

    On the anniversary of D Day, Chief of Army David Morrison – who of course has never served in anything resembling a war – speaks about attending a summit on sexism with Angelina Jolie.

    Military life today is about narratives and journeys:

    “It was about finding the right message to convince a hierarchical organisation of a hundred-years-plus history … What’s the narrative you have with your workforce to try and bring them on the same journey that you’re on?

    “And it was about capability: ‘Fellas, this is not a threat; this is about being the army that Australia wants to have now … If we’re going to be robust and relevant in the third decade, we’ve got to increase the number of women.’”

  109. sdfc

    Bruce

    It’s why Cyprus is a silly comparison. But anyone who knew anything about the monetary system would know that.

  110. He’s been a no-hoping alcoholic most of his life, though he manages to hold down a job most of the time.

    Then he’s a functional drunk, thank you.

    Barely. I may have overstated his competence and ability to function as a non-bothersome member of society. He’d be rooted without a family to sponge off.
    His father, who has been on a war pension for more than 40 years, could probably have done better things with the money than Wallario fees.
    Lad could have reimbursed the fees, as his only achievement in life (it paid heaps) was to play a musical instrument for Little Richard. He put every last dollar of that up his nose.

  111. Woolfe

    17:32 and I can already see the Rottnest lighthouse.

  112. Tom

    FMD, Bons. Thanks for taking the time.

    How was it that there weren’t alarms sounding and sirens blaring when the EU was formed after the horrors that led to the 1930s and 1940s?

  113. Bruce of Newcastle

    It could happen anywhere…and probably will

    …here in Lake Macquarie. The local council wants to produce 600 MW of renewable electricity and reduce CO2 emissions by 45%.

    City of Lake Macquarie Environmental Sustainability Action Plan

    Comments on their plan are due by 20 June. I am trying not to be too furious as I type since its bad for my keyboard.

    We have breeding pairs of white bellied sea eagles, black kites, collared sparrowhawks and powerful owls and these idiots want to put bird mincers up on Munibung Hill…? Bloody Labor. And now the ALP mayor wants to stand for state Parliament.

  114. Foggyfig

    Driftforge – words are not enough.

  115. jumpnmcar

    Calli
    Sorry, 5 secs after I pressed send The Taipan ordered my good self into the car to visit the eldest boy for his B’day.
    And no, Australian Standards is paywalled.
    It’s surreal to me that consumers can’t freely obtain information on Government mandated laws that they commissioned.
    I’m taking a position of consumer rights on this one.
    eMailed the local MP ( Nat ) and no reply as yet.
    Don’t know who owns SAI Global but they got it stitched up.

  116. Grigory M

    Oy vey, those Frensham girls.

    Stainsby Girls

  117. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s why Cyprus is a silly comparison. But anyone who knew anything about the monetary system would know that.

    Sdfc – Which is exactly why, upthread, I linked to the EU Parliamentary site describing the legislation recently passed to extend the same mechanism to the whole EU.

    You should know that politician pass ideas to each other like STD’s. All those study tours that they go on to Europe are unhealthy.

  118. jupes

    More from General Morrison:

    Women, he will argue, make all armies better.

    Really? Then perhaps he can explain how an ‘army’ of no women at all – the Taliban – will defeat the world’s superpower and its allies.

    Fellas, this is not a threat; this is about being the army that Australia wants to have now … If we’re going to be robust and relevant in the third decade, we’ve got to increase the number of women.

    An army of women will certainly not be robust, however you can be sure it will be relevant.

    To our enemies.

  119. Delta A

    Mote, either your t-bone is mega tough or you’ve had a dog of a day.

  120. sdfc

    Let me make it simple for you Bruce. We have our own currency.

  121. On the anniversary of D Day, Chief of Army David Morrison …speaks about attending a summit on sexism with Angelina Jolie.

    FMD.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Let me make it simple for you Bruce. We have our own currency.

    Which will be taken from your account should your bank become insolvent, if its above the threshold…which may be zero dollars according to the other link I gave upthread. Do pay attention sdfc.

    If you think it can’t happen here…well, just hope the ALP doesn’t win the next election or there’s a chance you could test this out.

  123. sdfc

    Bruce
    The RBA has an unlimited capacity to make good deposits. Cyprus outsourced it’s currency and central bank. You’ve got no idea have you.

  124. Notafan

    If we are going for equality how about gender equality in primary teaching, nursing and the human rights commission.
    I’m looking forward to see if they will be providing lactation rooms next war.
    Since when was being equal being the same?

  125. Armadillo

    Farrer has a special place in my heart.

    Why so SATP? Did your boyfriend go to school there?

    Sorry mate, but asking a question like that is pretty much standard fare at family gatherings (a brother-in-law and a couple of nephews went to school there). Nothing like a bit of shit stirring to enliven the family outing.

  126. Grigory M

    …here in Lake Macquarie.

    God’s country.

  127. MemoryVault

    Forget the girls of Frensham, or Stainsby.

    I want to know where these girls graduated from, so I can send my grandson.

  128. Bruce of Newcastle

    The RBA ECB has an unlimited capacity to make good deposits. Cyprus outsourced it’s currency and central bank. You’ve got no idea have you. FIFY

    I agree with you, sdfc, you have no idea do you? Read it.

    Let me explain it in very small words. If a local bank goes insolvent, like Westpac almost did in 1992, they must report this by law to the ASX. Then appoint administrators.

    At this point there will be a bank run unless there is serious deposit insurance. As I pointed out the guy who is reviewing the financial sector in January recommended that insurance be removed completely. Which certainly means one whiff of insolvency would cause a run. In Cyprus the locals could not withdraw more than 300 euros from an ATM per day until last month. Nearly 2 years after the crisis.

    So when the bank goes insolvent the regulator steps in, as they did with Northern Rock, and freezes everything. The politicians faced with a bailout of a good chunk of a trillion dollars in the case of any of the big 4 now must decide whether they will put taxpayers funds to the bailout, as the Irish did, or bail-in the depositors. Since there are more voters who are not depositors of one particular bank than there are misfortunate voting depositors which do you think the pollies will choose…?

    Especially when EU law now makes it clear that “bailing in” depositors can be done with limited squawking?

  129. tomix

    Fellas, this is not a threat; this is about being the army that Australia wants to have now … If we’re going to be robust and relevant in the third decade, we’ve got to increase the number of women.

    If the wars of the future are waged by doing a lot of rooting, we’ll be world-beaters.

  130. calli

    I’m moving a wee wefer north of you, Bruce. And the stupid is growing at Port Stephens Council…but nowhere near the total idiocy of Sydney Metro.

    I had a run in yesterday with an ex-Council bloke now working in private enterprise (Certifiers). Result…taking my business elsewhere. It’s like a disease…once infected they can’t ever recover.

  131. sdfc

    Bruce

    You don’t get it do you. Iceland and Ireland outsourced their central banks and currencies. The difference could not be any clearer. No taxpayer funds are needed, the RBA has an unlimited capacity to make good deposits.

  132. Why so SATP? Did your boyfriend go to school there?

    I’m a male in this net identity, so I can’t claim a boyfriend ;)
    It is the first boarding school I heard of, mainly coz I had some relatives who went there. Didn’t know much else about it, except for the name.

  133. Do you teach there or something Armadillo? I’m related to what seems like half of your city, I’ll probably have cause to visit one of these days (weddings, funerals, & so forth) May even drive to look at Farrer or something.

  134. jumpnmcar

    Certifiers enforce Council laws that mirror AS.
    Plus some locally concocted shit.
    More every day.

  135. jumpnmcar

    CanDo should launch a crackdown on local council sand in the economic gears, It’s constitutionally within his jurisdiction.
    With no Senate he could lead the nation from the Government lower level up.

  136. lotocoti

    Forget the girls …

    I don’t know, MV.
    Those Frensham girls knew some pretty interesting things.
    Field tested them too.
    In the dorm.
    Apparently.

  137. daggers

    The military is now staffed by officers who have obtained a tertiary qualification which often includes a humanities subject to make them well rounded poseurs who can bloviate with the rest of us. General Morrison is anxious to show his friends and former teachers in the Women and War unit he took what a forward thinking fellow he is. FMD. The long march white-anting never ends.

  138. Armadillo

    Do you teach there or something Armadillo?

    LOL. Go to the race track SATP. Bring your wallet and a devil may care attitude. Forget about Farrer, nothing good can come of you visiting there (well, not for me anyway).

  139. Bruce of Newcastle

    You don’t get it do you. Iceland and Ireland outsourced their central banks and currencies. The difference could not be any clearer. No taxpayer funds are needed, the RBA has an unlimited capacity to make good deposits.

    Sdfc – You are an idiot. Abbott gave the RBA $8.8 billion recently because the ALP had ripped it off of them to pay for welfare etc. If the RBA could print money for the price of a few inkjet cartridges why would Shorten be complaining like he has been eh?

    Iceland is severely on the nose, especially with the Poms, who have been asking sweetly for their $9 billion back. 100 years ago that request would have been delivered with 16 inch guns, but today they are much more civilized. They have not forgotten. Being ripped off is a thing which is difficult to forget.

    If you print money to pay ripped off depositors you are doing three things. One, you are stealing money off the rest of the voters through inflation. Two, you are saying to the next ripper-off “go for it son!” And three, you are causing depositors to trust inherently untrustworthy politicians, which means when next time they can’t give money out by fiat because of the debt run up (like Ireland) or because they risk a downgrade, then the voters will be pissed off and come for them with very pointy implements.

    The EU is in this state right now. Why do you think the UKIP topped the EU election in Britain? Being screwed again and again will not win you friends. Good government will.

  140. LOL. Go to the race track SATP. Bring your wallet and a devil may care attitude. Forget about Farrer, nothing good can come of you visiting there (well, not for me anyway).

    I’ve been there once, to track down a (considerable) quantity of commerical kitchen fittings that had been stolen from me. Found ‘em (some of them anyway) in a fast food franchise (forget the name, but a roast sandwich type joint) in the main street.

  141. Armadillo

    On the subject of boarding schools, there is probably a pretty good argument for more to be built in genuine ‘Outback’ settings. There are some serious problems in Aboriginal Australia, to which multiple solutions have all failed. Getting kids out of the alcohol fuelled and violent communities, into a more disciplined and regimented environment (I.e boarding schools) might be part of a viable solution. This would be at least for part of the year anyway. Ultimately, it would be a cheaper alternative in the sense of funding education infrastructure. Farrer for example is actually a public school, and not a private school.

  142. sdfc

    Sdfc – You are an idiot. Abbott gave the RBA $8.8 billion recently because the ALP had ripped it off of them to pay for welfare etc. If the RBA could print money for the price of a few inkjet cartridges why would Shorten be complaining like he has been eh?

    That might impress accountants but at the end of the day the RBA can buy CGS.

    Iceland looked after its domestic depositors. Why should foreign investors chasing high yields be bailed out?

  143. Armadillo

    to track down a (considerable) quantity of commerical kitchen fittings that had been stolen from me.

    Just so you know, I work on a strictly ‘cash only’ basis. I’ve heard of people ‘putting their house on a sure winner’, but never ‘their kitchen sink’. Outback QLD is a strange place indeed. Bizarre even.

  144. Mk50 of Brisbane, Henchman to the VRWC

    Bruce, that’s a heck of a cluebatting you are giving the commie imbecile.

    Highly entertaining, keep it up.

    By his 9for want of a better word) comments, though, I think his literacy and comprehension skills peaked when he finally worked out ‘See Spot Run’.

    That was last Wednesday (he’s a late bloomer).

  145. Bruce, that’s a heck of a cluebatting you are giving the commie imbecile.

    You’re referring to sdfc as a “commie”? based on what?
    He strikes me as quite smart, so I would hardly describe him as an imbecile, either…

  146. sdfc

    Pointless Mk50. If your are going to be taken seriously as a commenter you have to do better than that.

  147. 132andBush

    Though Yanco is so far south I had to google to see if it is a real place or not. Barely counts as Australia
    Oi!

  148. Pete of Perth

    The death of thermomix: soylent.me

  149. H B Bear

    I see Ricky Muir has appointed Glenn Druery as his senior advisor.

    Somebody is going to have to do his thinking for him. Like the PUPs.

  150. calli

    What’s Soylent made of?

    Hint: It’s not people.

    Well, that’s a relief.

  151. Andrew

    He strikes me as quite smart, so I would hardly describe him as an imbecile, either…

    Yeah, arguing about bank defaults that Iceland outsourced its central bank and currency. A real Nobel laureate we have there.

  152. I see Ricky Muir has appointed Glenn Druery as his senior advisor.

    Somebody is going to have to do his thinking for him. Like the PUPs.

    Jackie Lambie has recruited Timmeh from South Park as her advisor.

  153. sdfc

    Sorry lack of editing, Cyprus outsourced its central bank not Iceland. Iceland of course maintained its own currency and guaranteed domestic deposits.

  154. Grigory M

    I’ve been sailing on the Soylent – near the Isle of Wight.

  155. val majkus

    http://www.tradeunionroyalcommission.gov.au/Witnesses/Documents/witness-schedule-10-13june2014.pdf

    Witness schedule
    Tuesday, 10 June – Friday, 13 June
    Hearings of the Royal Commission are scheduled to take place on Level 5, 55 Market Street, Sydney from Tuesday 10 June to Friday 13 June, between 10.00am and 4.00pm.
    The witness list in alphabetical order is:
    • Ian Cambridge
    • Wayne Hem
    • Athol James
    • Nicholas Jukes
    • Robert Kernohan
    • Olivia Palmer

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks, Val – my understanding is that Robert Kernohan’s testimony has been described as “explosive” by the legal wallahs at the Royal Commission…..

  157. Notafan

    Jackie Lambie should get Orson Vulture to be her advisor.

  158. Andrew

    Sorry lack of editing

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha

    So you’re sticking to the premise that an indept currency guarantees all deposits will be honoured fully and promptly, and that the nonsensical Iceland comment was merely an editing issue?? That no US bank (for example) has ever done what Cyprus did (which was solely attributable to their lack of an independent currency)?

  159. Armadillo

    • Athol James

    Val, is he ‘the builder’ that Smithy mentioned to Ben Fordham? He couldn’t give a name out at that stage. I know who all the others are except for Nicholas Dukes.

  160. sdfc

    No I should have typed Cyprus and not Iceland. You don’t know what happened in Cyprus do you.

  161. Armadillo

    Whoops. Just went to your link. You missed the last one ‘Kon the Builder’.

  162. val majkus

    Hi all; Athol James is mentioned in this exit interview:

    : No, I, I, I suppose I should do it piece by piece. I originally got glasswork and paving work done; that was because the way in which the glasswork and the paving were done at that time was causing water to go into the foundations. I contracted with a glassworker/ woodworker person called Athol James, who I found in the local newspaper, and contracted with a paving place that I got from the local …

    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/02/what-ms-gillard-said-in-her-record-of-interview-about-her-home-renovations-.html#more
    One of the interesting questions will be by whom was he paid
    If you read that interview at the link he seemed to be on the job some time before Bruce became involved with the bathroom demolition and from what Gillard says in that interview it was only then that Jim Collins organised some AWU workers

    And the last witness on that list is the one Gillard called ‘just a big Greek bullshit artist’ with ‘obvious difficulties with the truth

  163. val majkus

    yes Armadillo, copied and pasted it from an e mail and missed Con; sorry about that – the alleged ‘big Greek bullshit artist”

  164. Andrew

    Go on – allow me to laugh at you some more. Please lecture me about something I know orders of magnitude more about than you do. While you’re at it, once you’ve finished on Iceland Jamaica Cyprus (bloody typos) then tell us about the 100% honouring of non FDIC insured deposits through Fed money printing.

  165. Armadillo

    Konstantinos Spyridis

  166. sdfc

    You don’t seem to know anything Andrew.

  167. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Armadillo, TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION – Nicholas Jukes is part of the Thiess contacting link in the Wild West – Michael Smith had a thread on the Dawesville cut project. Sixty million dollars of taxpayer’s money, awarded without even the most basic exercise in tendering, or normal commercial practice. Happy to be corrected.

  168. sdfc

    I’ll give you a lead Andrew. Why would the RBA not guarantee deposits?

  169. Armadillo

    Interesting inclusion then Zulu. You would think they would be weaving a story together. He seems the odd one out? Unless of course they are reinforcing where the money originated from for the renovations, and building a bridge to the next point of the story in its entirety.

  170. Gab

    the alleged ‘big Greek bullshit artist”

    He’s still alive? Thought he died of old age.

  171. Andrew

    What’s the matter sdfc? Does it feel like I’m leading you into a trap? All I’m asking you to do is to affirm your own claim. You suddenly appear scared.

    You are 0 from 1 so far – I knew enough to correctly identify that the Sedlabanki Islands was in Reykjavik the whole time, and hadn’t been outsourced. So I’ve graciously taken on advisement your other claim. I’ve even narrowed it down to a single representative case of your general claim – US non-FDIC insured deposits.

    So go on. Repeat your statement.

  172. Peter from SA

    I just realised what you said earlier Drifters. Greater things ….

  173. sdfc

    What statement Andrew? That RBA has an unlimited capacity to make good deposits? Of course they do.

  174. Armadillo

    meet Nicholas Jukes

    Crikey, where’s Tony N when you need him? No doubt he could have cleared all this up in an instant.

    Good Morning Tony N.

  175. sdfc

    I’m going inside to spend some time with the missus Andrew. Maybe you can study up on the monetary system until next Friday, or maybe tomorrow if I get the time.

  176. Tiny Dancer

    Stacey at the gay bar. Does Katter let you say words like “arsehole”?

  177. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Come on guys – Tony N used to post some interesting stuff here. We may have been on the opposite side of politics, I wouldn’t change his ways, he wouldn’t change mine, but some of the links he posted on military matters was interesting. Besides, how come Tony N was banned, but Numbers is still here?

  178. Armadillo

    Handsome couple

    Whilst JC is admiring Michaels wife (Glynns) hair, I’m admiring her green dress. They are both ‘nice’.

  179. The only neat thing in that photo is the knot in his tie. Everything else is as sloppy as can be.

  180. JC

    Everything else is as sloppy as can be.

    Na, he’s like a world class gym rat and she has a body sculptured by Body by Jake

  181. JC

    Gab..

    This is so fucking unfair. Xon is down 2 cents this morning when it ought to be up 20% to make up for the two lost days. I really don’t think it’s going to 1000 bucks a share in 30 days. :-)

    Luckily I stocked up on TNA (tits and arse) a few days when the algo i use sprung an oversold signal

  182. Armadillo

    she has a body sculptured by Body by Jake

    KFC changed their name? Nobody tells me anything. I just get treated like a mushroom around here (although I suspect the last mushroom Glynn saw was sitting atop a pizza, just before Michael ate it).

  183. Gab

    Look I wasn’t going to say anything becuase I was right :) but then I just made a lucky guess, JC. Listen, you were the one that said this was one for the long haul so stop freaking out about it already and put it aside for now. You’ve already dumped half and made a bit on that, which is good. Now, go find something else to buy :)

  184. JC

    That’s what the divorce is about, Arm. He stole a mushroom on her pizzas and didn’t give it back.

  185. twostix

    The voting on the comments section in the Daily Mail on any UKIP story particularly this amazing exercise in propaganda sufferers more ballot stuffing than an ALP preselection.

    Question: Why does the Daily Mail despise UKIP so much? It seems to be the DM’s audience love them. Just the typical luvvie media class / conservative readership mismatch?

  186. twostix

    Handsome couple.

    9 homes.

    Flashback: The fat fuck turns up at an Occupy Wallstreet rally and gives a lecture about the evil 1%.

    By god the student left are painfully stupid.

  187. Bruce of Newcastle

    Iceland looked after its domestic depositors. Why should foreign investors chasing high yields be bailed out?

    Sorry sdfc, I had an early night. If you don’t know the answer to the question then you should go read some history and some law.

    And meditate about what I said about 16 inch guns. We are in an unusual period in history where a weak country can rip off a stronger country and “get away with it”. Which I attach quotes to because it is unlikely that Iceland will get away with it in the end. Like Argentina is struggling to get out of their legal responsibilities, Iceland is too (and perhaps you should read the link I gave a bit more closely).

    As to the RBA bailing out a bank or banks, they can only do so by lending freshly printed money to the banks concerned. Giving (not lending) them money is almost certainly illegal and is political dynamite. The outrage from voterland would destroy any government who did that…which is exactly why Cyprus got bailed-in. The ECB could have just bailed the banks out and it would have been quite legal to do so, but if they did the German Parliament would have been forced to put a referendum to the people, and the answer would have been ‘no’. Politics are therefore important.

    Now if the RBA lent a trillion to a couple of insolvent banks that debt would remain in our aggregate government indebtedness as a percent of GDP and the rating agencies would drop us to junk. Interest rates would climb and we’d have a recession. The government would be tossed out. So that is yet another reason why, given the EU has now legislated bail-ins that we would do so too – since it is politically and economically less harmful than the RBA lending money to bail them out.

    And as for nationalisation – that doesn’t get you off the hook either since then the government’s direct debt must be raised to do the bail out. The shareholders are all wiped out under any scenario – their equity is zero in whatever circumstances.

    Then there’s liquidation. But this is just a different form of bailing in, since depositors rank ahead of bond holders BUT are not off the hook. And the Lehman Brothers disaster showed the systemic danger of liquidating a big bank. They are truly too big to fail, since if one does your whole financial system freezes solid and you get an instant depression.

    So, sdfc, the RBA is going to do no such thing. They politically cannot.

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